The Carpool Guys
The Carpool Guys Podcast is where three real Jewish dads- Asher Dworetsky, Jon Ackerman, and Dave "From Flatbush" Tannenbaum, buckle up for unfiltered conversations about fatherhood, marriage, midlife, and the beautiful chaos of raising a family in the Jewish community today.
These guys have made mistakes, learned lessons the hard way, and have just enough life experience to give out their not so expert advice. From career crossroads to screen time battles, from Shabbos table debates to parenting fails, from Israel and what it means to us as Jews to the everyday moments that make you laugh, cry, and question every decision you've ever made... The Carpool Guys go there.
Whether you're married or single, a parent or a kid who still needs one, navigating life or just trying to figure it all out... this is your podcast. Humor, heart, and meaning, every other week. No filter. No script. Just real talk from three guys who are very much still figuring it out too.
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The Carpool Guys
Shabbos Meal Ground Rules: Our Most Controversial Topic Ever! Whose Side Are You On?
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Shabbos Ground Rules: Whose Side Are You On?
The whole team is back together, and Dave was not going to let his absence go unnoticed. He missed the guys so much he had major FOMO from his own podcast, and he is here to make sure everyone knows it.
The guys kick off with a proper What Are We Thinking About segment, catching up on WhatsApp group energy, a wave of positive feedback from the Imposter Syndrome episode, and a very unfortunate JetBlue saga that left Jon's 15 year old daughter stranded in LA after a canceled flight. Shout out to NCSY Give West staff for stepping up when JetBlue fumbled completely. Asher recaps a beautiful Shabbos and a truly heroic attempt at watching the World Cup finals, which he did not enjoy even a little bit and has some thoughts about.
Then the guys get into the real topic of the night, and arguably the most important unspoken debate in Jewish community life: Shabbos meal etiquette and ground rules. What is the appropriate end time for a Shabbos meal? Is there a statute of limitations on re-inviting someone who has said no twice? Is it acceptable to drop a potluck commitment for a better offer later in the week? Can you ask to bench early because you want to take a nap? The guys poll their WhatsApp group, argue passionately, call in a wife for a live ruling, and somehow still do not fully agree by the end.
Also in this episode: the group chat name "Tannen GONE," sponsored voice notes as a business idea, indoor soccer nostalgia, a hockey stick fight in yeshiva that ended in an awkward equipment return, the potluck versus real invitation hierarchy, and a legitimately deep question from a camper about celebrity status that Asher refuses to answer.
Question of the Week: What level of celebrity do you think we are?
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⏱️ Chapters with Timestamps
1:05 — Dave's FOMO Over Missing an Episode
2:40 — The Voice Note Debate Continues — Dave Says He's Getting 20x More Now
3:35 — Shout Out to the WhatsApp Group and First Raffle Winner Naftali Pfeiffer
6:01 — Great Feedback on the Imposter Syndrome Episode
8:03 — Dave's Month at Camp Kaylie Training the Intern Program
11:28 — Jon's JetBlue Nightmare: Daughter Stranded in LA
14:46 — Asher's Honest World Cup Review: The Most Boring Sport in the World
21:50 — Main Topic: Shabbos Meal Ground Rules and Etiquette
26:12 — The Poll Results: What's the Acceptable End Time?
28:03 — Jon's Real Question: How Long Do You Wait to Re-Invite Someone Who Said No Twice?
31:17 — Dave's Confession: The Fear of Being Invited Back by People You Don't Want to See
32:42 — Asher's Devious Idea: Inviting Someone the Week of Their Simcha
35:19 — The Potluck Downgrade Rule: Can You Drop a Potluck for a Better Offer?
35:36 — Calling in the Wives for a Live Ruling
38:00 — The Yeshiva Hockey Fight Story and the Awkward Stick Return
40:47 — The Couch Sleeping Debate
42:51 — Can You Ask to Bench Early Because You Want a Nap?
44:10 — Question of the Week Setup: The Camper's Celebrity Question
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If I was ever to be a celebrity, I want to be like Shaquille O'Neal.
SPEAKER_02He's he's a man. Usher's like, I don't want to be a celebrity.
SPEAKER_03But if I ever Shaquille O'Neal lovely slip, $40 on Cameo, and I'll sign, I'll kiss babies, just tell me what to do.
SPEAKER_02Hello and welcome to the Carpool Guys Podcast, where three dads just trying their best to talk about life, work, family, and all the detours in between. We've made mistakes, lots of mistakes, but we've also learned a few things along the way. We don't have it all figured out, but that's never stopped us from sharing our two cents anyway. The Carpool Guys podcast is hosted by Asher Doretzky, John Ackerman, and Dave from Flatbush Tanenbaum. Buckle up, it's carpool time. Alright, we are back. The whole team is together. Doretsky, Tannenbaum, Ackerman, reunited, back in better than ever.
SPEAKER_00I don't know how we recorded without Dave. Like it, you know, it was so different and the vibe. If you didn't listen to Dave's uh two-minute uh drive-by, you gotta listen right now. Like he clearly dissected the podcast line by line, understanding where we failed and came up short. It was harsh.
SPEAKER_03I enjoyed listening to it. Um like I like I said in my um in my two-minute uh drive-by, I really missed you guys greatly. I was crying, I was very emotional, it was so sad. Truth is, I'm listening to this podcast and I'm like, what the heck is missing? So you felt your own presence missing, huh? Yeah, I felt it. I I had major FOMO. And you know what? You guys did a good job because in in our in our two WhatsApp, you kept it very quiet. So I didn't even know what you guys were doing it on.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like I wasn't involved with any of the pregame show.
SPEAKER_00That is true. You were not involved in the pregame. To be fair.
SPEAKER_03So that makes me think. Um that leads me to my next question. Which is Is there like a a a private chat that you guys have about me? Yeah, it's called text messages. We just text. It's a WhatsApp between the two of us. Does it have a name, the group?
SPEAKER_00It's called Osher Texting John and John texting Osher. It's not that exciting. It's called Tan and Gone.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow. Wow. Shots fired.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say is Dave, we had all of this conversation in the WhatsApp. You just don't check your WhatsApp. Yes.
SPEAKER_03I I I I am not the biggest WhatsApper. And speaking, are we allowed? I don't want to break rules here, but one of the things you guys spoke about were these voice notes. These map, um, what are they called? Vines? Voice m voice messages. Voice vines? They're not vine, they're not voice vines. So voice vines. One thing, one thing about these voice notes, voice memos, after complaining about it in the drive-by, I literally have gotten a hundred times more voice notes than I than I previously have gotten. There's usually like one or two people in my in my day-to-day, you know, that that give that send me voice notes. I'm telling you, it was it was times 20.
SPEAKER_00I wonder if it really is, or are you just noticing it more?
SPEAKER_03No, I mean half of the WhatsApp group that we started is voice notes.
SPEAKER_00That's true. So, first of all, we want to shout out the WhatsApp group that we started. People are participating. We had our first raffle winner, Naftali Pfeiffer. Shout out to Naftali Pfeiffer who won't be a few. Friend of the show. Naftali Pfeiffer. Friend of the show and friend in real life. Yes uh Naftali Pfeiffer won the first Norgo Raffle for uh helping us push out the show to friends and family and those people that just want to be annoyed. Um, and if you would like to uh be entered into a raffle, you too should join the WhatsApp group. It happened to have been two people brought up interesting things in the WhatsApp group about the voice messages. One of them said that this was a voice note that was sent to us by Izo Zwirin, another friend of the show, and he said, the person who shared it, he said, the voice note is purposefully when you have something long to say. Because if it's something short, it should be text. But if it's something very long, like we were on the side of two-minute max, that's the purpose of the voice note. I can't disagree more at the same time. I like that somebody thought about it, and then someone else made a very good point about the voice note. I think you said it's like concurrent conversation. What was that?
SPEAKER_02It was an asynchronous conversation. That's that's what that's what she said. That uh from moms that uh that the voice notes provide an asynchronous conversation. So I guess if you're really busy and you don't want to have to respond to somebody right away, it works.
SPEAKER_03I will say one thing, Ash. It's very nice that you listen to that voice note because I didn't. I mean, the fact that it was like this whole slow buildup, he like lost me in the previews.
SPEAKER_00But that's where we get to with John. John's feeling is that a voice note is basically a podcast.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Once you get to that point, it's a podcast or it's a conversation that you want to have with somebody, but only your side.
SPEAKER_00So in fact, our first business opportunity, if you remember, way back when, when we first started, is John wants to open up the worst possible shit dating uh websites in the world where you will never find anybody and be sad. But our next venture is sponsored voice notes. We're gonna literally get your voice notes sponsored by a professional company. So 15 seconds, Geico, right there.
SPEAKER_02Boom. I like it a lot. We also got some really nice feedback about uh the topic imposter syndrome. Actually, I had a blast from the past, old friend of mine, uh not gonna read his name on the show, but sent me a WhatsApp message, a classic WhatsApp, not a voice note, saying, Hey John, I just listened to your podcast on imposter syndrome, and I wanted to let you know that it really resonated with me. Thanks for working on the podcast and keep doing what you're doing. And I really appreciated that. So good positive feedback, though I appreciate all feedback, but that somebody really felt like we were connecting with them, that was awesome.
SPEAKER_00I'm really glad because the truth is, like, we're really our, you know, in our wheelhouse are is just to try to be relatable, to be, to try to talk about things that other people are thinking about, uh, shop is table type of discussion, and that somebody related to it and felt that it's something that they connected with is very gratifying. Um, usually the feedback is mostly anti-Semitic, so that's actually that somebody felt good. This is a nice change for us.
SPEAKER_02Change of people pro-Semitic. Um take the opportunity real quick to remind everybody to please like and subscribe to the Carpool Guys Podcast. You can find us on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, on YouTube, on Amazon Music, obviously on Good Pods, our favorite, or wherever you find your podcasts. And if you want to join the WhatsApp group, we would love to have you ask questions of the week, discuss our topics, and uh help us promote the show.
SPEAKER_00We also put out a poll the time today. We have a very interesting poll that we're gonna talk about today. Very, very interesting. I don't want to spoil it. It is very juicy.
SPEAKER_02I can't wait. But guys, let's go around the horn. What are we thinking about? John, can I just interrupt you for a second? I know you got a question for Dave.
SPEAKER_03Your mustache grows very thick. Your mustache grows very true. Just his mustache is absolutely staying in the show.
SPEAKER_00It is. It's I I agree with you. And Dave. Do you notice that?
SPEAKER_03I can't listen.
SPEAKER_00I can't listen to him. I give you credit because I listen because of my mustache. Second time. Trivia question for the people who are listening. When was the first time that Dave commented on someone else's physical appearance on the podcast? I'm not gonna say it, but all right, Dave, question that I have for you where were you last time?
SPEAKER_03So over this past month, I have had the opportunity to work in Camp Cayley for one night. I worked, I gave a class, a training with the interns. There are eight individuals with uh with different types of abilities, and Avi Gans runs that program. And they these um eight individuals work throughout camp, and they are really the life of this camp. And some work in the kitchen, some work in the waterfront, you know, in all the mail room, all different throughout camp. And my responsibility was to give a training once a week to the individuals. It was about, you know, how to be appropriate in the in the workforce, you know, conflict resolution, all the types of trainings that I do really on my day-to-day job as well. But it gave me an opportunity to go there um and I and I gave one night a week. Um, really, uh, I mean, I call it night, but camp time really throws you off. Because 5 30, it was like a 5 30 city time, uh camp time, which is 6 30 city time, which is the whole thing.
SPEAKER_00I have a personal question for you. Yeah you are famous for certain um how we say April Fool's hijinks. Would we call it that?
SPEAKER_03Would you consider yourself I'm an April Fool's Day uh fiend.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So you would consider yourself an expert on what is appropriate in the workforce?
SPEAKER_03Well, not but well well, I would say one day a year maybe per am also, which you don't work on. Um I think it's important to, you know, change it up a little bit. Okay, okay. So I think it's also important on April Fool's Day for people to lighten up a little bit, you know, let themselves loose, you know, and I and I and I do. I have I have several um colleagues that that don't talk to me on April on April Fool's Day. I think it's very nice. It's because of what you've done to them over the last several years. All right, it just gives me more motivation. It sounds like it was very meaningful work. So it was really a terrific program. Um the guys really loved it, they got a lot out of it. One guy, every time I came, he would call his parents and say, Oh, David's giving the class and he's giving a terrific class. You should hear it. You know, I'm gonna take home all the notes. And and he kept telling me, he's the best. And he was telling Rabbi Sift that he likes this class. And then one day I'm by I I I'm sitting with with uh Ellie Brazil, who's the director of the camp, and I said, Hey, um, come over here. I don't want to say his name, but I said, come over here. And I said, Why don't you tell Ellie about the program? And he goes, It's good. All right, well said. I'm like, here he is, he doesn't stop talking about how amazing it is. And he sent me a voice note after camp, the stressing how how much he enjoyed it. But it's good when it really counted.
SPEAKER_00How long of the voice note was proud of it. That's the voice note you forward to Ellie Brazil and say, Ellie, this is what he really meant. He was just a little intimidated by your book. This is what he really meant. John, what is what do you what's on your mind?
SPEAKER_02What's on my mind? I will tell you what's on my mind, Asher. I've been waiting for it. Please tell us. We've been waiting for last year. Okay, let me set the stage. Saturday night, Moze Shabbos, it's 10:30 at night. I'm getting ready to go to sleep, and I get an email from JetBlue. And I usually love JetBlue, but not this time. Jet Blew It. Whoa. Whoa, whoa. Wash your language. My daughter was coming back. She was at NCSY Give West in California. Great camp, great program. Her flight is the following morning, Sunday morning, and they're in LA, so Chavez has not ended there yet. And I get an email from JetBlue. Your flight has been canceled. But don't worry. We've rebooked her, your daughter, for Tuesday. It's fine. Her Sunday flight canceled. Don't worry, we've rebooked her for Tuesday. And I'm sitting there like, my daughter's 15. What's she gonna do in California by herself for the next three days? And I spend the next two hours trying to get through to JetBlue calling, no one's picking up, messaging or leaving messages on their message app, nothing's happening. JetBlue did not come through. Um I finally had to go through Chase the way we we bought the ticket from points, and Chase was able to get us a ticket on Monday, but she was gonna be stuck there the next couple days with her friends um by themselves, four girls in LA until until Monday. So I want to give a lot of credit. Um my boss in NCSY, shout out to Hannah Alderstein, scrambled, went into action. I want to thank Hanna. I want to thank my good friend Denise. Um, I want to thank all the people at NCSY Summer, Mishi Alper, director of the Give West program. They came together, they found housing for the kids, they ended up showing the kids an incredible time while camp was over. They took them to the Grove Mall in LA, took them out to dinner. They had a blast. So while JetBlue really fumbled, I give credit to my friends at NCSY for really coming through. That's been my past couple days, and uh it's been fun to watch the good when people step up. But JetBlue, man, do better next time. John. Yeah. Which podcast is this? Is this Carpo Guys or is this the NCSY Pulse? Hey, listen, you know what? I bring people together. That's what I do. I'm a kind of- You were just giving shout-outs to people on another podcast.
SPEAKER_00John, by the way, has a professional podcast.
SPEAKER_03Because I thought he turned into you, Osher. He was name-dropping like left and right. I do know the 20-minute name drop.
SPEAKER_00No, I was not name-dropping my entire theme. I have never 20-minute name-dropped.
SPEAKER_02All right, Dave, should I do Osher? Gar Hashem. We had a beautiful Shabbos, was beautiful, and Izzy was incredible.
SPEAKER_03Izzy was incredible. I want to give Mosh Khaim a shout-out. I want to give uh Shashan Ripka a shout out.
SPEAKER_00Now, I just want to peel back. Can I just peel back the curtain for a second? We are recording during the nine days.
SPEAKER_01We will be posting this next week, but you are being cruel and mean in the nine days. Don't you want to build a base up?
SPEAKER_03John put me up to it. John Yeah. Peer pressure.
SPEAKER_00That's what they always say.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, that's what I've been thinking about. Usher, I know that you are chomping at the bet. You've got something to talk about here. What have you been thinking about?
SPEAKER_00Alright. It's time to have a serious and honest conversation, PBS. I tried my best. There were a lot of people that discussed this with me. I wanted to give it a try. I put in a good faith effort. I tried my best. I watched the FIFA World Cup finals. It was so boring. I could not get through it. I like discussed it with the custodial staff in camp. I asked them what team I should be rooting for. They advised me. And yet I sat down completely unprepared for extra time, half time during extra time, adding more time to the extra time, no shots on net. It is the most boring sport in the world. I wanna know. I'm sorry to say this. I wanna know, is the rest of the world just faking their love for soccer? It does not make any sense. At some point in quadruple extra time, when the game is like, do they even know when these games end? And quadruple over time, they said, Wow, it's so quiet in this room. It's as if somebody took all the energy out of here. And I'm sitting there, yeah, because this game is really boring. This is your championship game, this is your Super Bowl of the entire world. This is how you're supposed to be drawing in fans. I will never, believe Nether, ever watch another soccer game, football, whatever you want to call it, again. It was so boring. I know, messy, I know, but you know what? Oh god, it was so boring.
SPEAKER_02It's the worst. I don't understand why everybody loves it, and I'll tell you, I was watching part of the game and it was halftime. And the announcer goes, it was tied zero zero. And the announcer goes, it's zero zero, it's still anyone's game. Like, no kidding, it's tied.
SPEAKER_03Of course it's still anyone's game. Funny, I I think I'm uh I I have a different take. I I actually got into it. I was was really following a lot of the games, but for us Americans, I think we're only cut out for like the second half. The first half, I I venture to say, and I don't know the this the data on this. I'm sure I hope somebody can can really help us. I'm making up this stat completely, but I think ninety top ninety-five percent of the games, or even maybe even higher, were decided in the last in the last twenty-five-thirty minutes.
SPEAKER_00I will tell you, we went on a trip at some point during one of the games a couple of weeks ago, you know, at the beginning of this entire World Cup saga, the last like 14 months, whatever. So we were sitting at Dave and Busters on a trip from camp, and I every time I looked away, I missed the thing that I was supposed to be watching. Because I was like, okay, nothing's gonna happen, nothing's gonna happen. How did they score a goal? Like, and then in the counselor chat, they're like, That's easy. They score a goal by kicking it goal pender that part I understand, but then in my counselor chat, the can't the can't the councillor's like, can we watch the semifinals? I was like, I'm more than happy to put on the 15-second highlight reel. Uh, this is not a sport for me. I'm sorry. I happen to love baseball. People claim that baseball's boring. I think baseball is a game of anxiety. Watching uh soccer is like some of them are running, some of them are walking, some of them are lying down on the floor. It's kind of like a mix of the worst parts of basketball when like they f that get hit and then they lie down on the floor and pretend like they're super injured, but they're really not because they're just trying to get a foul and then they get up, and it's like it was driving me crazy.
SPEAKER_03I think that the last if you watch the last 25-30 minutes, I think some of these games were have been really exciting. Uh unfortunately, you don't really know you're gonna get a game winner because they add the the timing thing is is is is strange. But I did I did enjoy a lot of the last number of minutes of each of many of the games. I know the the worst thing was that the US game, which is what we would really get the most out of it, um that that was was not much of a game. But besides for that, I think that there were there were a lot of exciting games. I do think when you have a championship and there's no shots on net for one of the teams, that's terrible, especially when the only guy we've heard of. And I and that's a question I have for all the soccer fans or football fans out there is that how do you have a sport where literally the average joke cannot name more than one person on each team, the main goal scorer.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02That's true.
SPEAKER_00The other thing is you know you're in trouble that your game clock counts up. Now, I understand that people out there in Listenerville are gonna say that's the problem with Sirius Omer, because you're counting up and not counting down. I get it. But I have no idea what I would say. I'm sitting there watching this and I was like, when is this game over? What am I waiting for? They're like, oh, there's only five minutes left, and then five minutes later, they're like, Oh, we're adding five more minutes. That doesn't make sense to anybody. They are making it up as they go along.
SPEAKER_02Once heard, I think it was Max Kellerman when he used to be on ESPN radio, and he said, Basketball is the evolution of soccer. Soccer, you're using your feet. Basketball, you use your hands, right? It's more advanced. Soccer, you're taking a small ball into a massive net, right? And and but you score very few points. In basketball, you're shooting a larger ball into a very, very, very small net, and you're scoring hundreds of points. So he was saying basketball is the evolution of soccer, and I think I see it. It's just it's so much more fun.
SPEAKER_00So hockey is smaller fields, interesting, more is happening, it's fast-paced. This I I could not understand what I was watching.
SPEAKER_03In hot in high school, they once took us to indoor soccer. Yeah, I remember that. The boards, it's like a hockey rink kind of, but the boards go are like plexiglass high, and the goal is in the boards.
SPEAKER_04And that's cool.
SPEAKER_03And I'm telling you, so there were rebounds off the boards, and there were a lot of goals, and it was constant action. And I think that that's what we need. Yep. Agreed. Okay, agreed. But I did enjoy it. I I I hear you, I hear it's boring. Um I don't know how it's how it's better than football or hockey. And I love baseball, but I'm just saying if you could argue that hockey is the most exciting thing, and it's similar in the sense that there's a net and you put something in a net. Yeah, I think that's where this is 20 minutes. Maybe if soccer was on ice small ball, big ball, big hoop, small hoop. I think I want that 30 seconds back. But but besides for that soccer on ice, next big sport. Quoting Max Kellerman a small ball and a big hoop.
SPEAKER_00This brings us this brings us to our main topic of the of the night, and that is the question that we posed to our WhatsApp group, the poll. I have some serious numbers here, people. This is, you know how they say that this is not a scientifically accurate poll. This is 100% completely scientifically accurate. If I understood what scientifically accurate polls were, this would be that. And that is, we're gonna talk a little bit about a very important topic, a topic that I don't think enough people are talking about. Every podcast should be talking about that. This this should be the main topic, and that is what is the appropriate uh Shabbos meal procedures, etiquette, ground rules. What do we talk about ground rules? Ground rules. What are the ground rules? Because just like soccer, it seems to go on forever. No one knows when it's supposed to end. And it just you seem to be just adding new things. There's a dessert, then there's the post-desser, then you make your way to the couches, then you go back to the table. When are we allowed to bench? Who's allowed to say that we're allowed to bench? What is going on here at these Shabbos meals? So we're gonna start with the very first question, and that is what is the appropriate and acceptable end time for a Shabbos meal? This is important. The appropriate start time and end time for a Shabbos meal. Well, I don't know what star is look, start time, it depends on what minion you go to, where you live.
SPEAKER_02Well, I don't know, because we also had, and uh shouts to friend of the show, Atana Hacht, who tossed out the idea of maybe you do uh community kiddish before.
SPEAKER_00This was brilliant.
SPEAKER_02Brilliant I love the idea. Everybody goes, gets together, rotating houses, people host a kiddish, you get your socialization, you get your hangout time, right? You eat up some of the Shabbos hours, and then you do that for like an hour and a half, you go back to your houses and have like a small meal, no Shabbos guests.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I'm all for that. So I personally uh people know this about me. I do like to take a nap on Shabbos. However, these meals, they have taken on a life of their own. And if you're what are you time to it's time to put a stop to it. So I want to get Dave's a feedback and then we're gonna go to the poll.
SPEAKER_03I mean, my my problem is is is not all meals are created equal. That's true. Um if you're if you're with with a group of friends that you could sit for a while with and you're comfortable with, and you could go into their kitchen or go to their couch and just relax by yourself, then then I I don't really have an end time. Um if you're going to a place where you feel less like uncomfortable or that random invite, then then sometimes you feel uh like you're taken hostage at the Shabbos meal. Another thing that takes into account is if my kids are engaged, then it's amazing. If you don't notice that your kids are there and they're engaged, then they're like, don't end this thing. Well I don't have to take them home so that they're gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_00That's for the play dates. Yep. Look, that that is fair, but then we have to call it what it is. This is not a Shabbos meal, this is a play date. And the parents, so then maybe we could bench a little bit earlier, please. And then let the parents go and lie down on the couch and not make fun of them. You know who you're talking, who I'm talking about, for snoring on the couch. Thanks so much. You know who I'm talking about. Sheesh. Yeah, she's looking over at you over your shoulder. I know. I understand. Listen, you gotta call it the way it is.
SPEAKER_03You know, if you if there's a lawnmower in the house, you gotta stop it.
SPEAKER_02Wow, wow, is that can it be Asher's new nickname? The lawnmower man. That hurts.
SPEAKER_03But I will say, I will say that I also have have frequented people's couches and have gone to sleep.
SPEAKER_00I think it's totally socially acceptable. Okay, yes, it's true. It depends on what it is. If I'm at one of your houses, I feel comfortable going and taking a nap. In fact, friend of the show, Jeremy Markowitz, I was at their house a couple of weeks ago. I went to the basement to quote unquote watch my son. I passed out for 45 minutes. It was wonderful. It was wonderful. So here was uh we put it out there. I did get a little bit of feedback that I left out two o'clock, and I think that that actually was fair because that's a decent time to end. I started with 1.30 because I wanted to be like, you know, fair. You're not finishing your half hour.
SPEAKER_02The question is, what's the what's the appropriate?
SPEAKER_00What was the acceptable end time for a Shabbos meal? Now, obviously, it all depends on when you start. Most people start their meal between 12 and 12.30, I think. Am I correct about that? I don't like later than that. Yeah. Now, there was three people went with three o'clock. Then we had three people. I can't even begin to wrap my head around this answer. They wrote after Shabbos, they will drive us home. You have the stinky fish. You have you no, you are the stinky fish that has absolutely out stayed. You're welcome. I oh, you are one of those people, Dave. You are, and I am going to name names right now. I am David Tannenbaum, you are one of those people. Avi Lloyd, you're one of those people. I love you. You're a great person. That's all a member, saved me a many times, but not okay. Friend of the show, my colleague from Avnet, Rifki Markowitz. Also, how do you how is this acceptable?
SPEAKER_02It's gotta be that we're talking about during the winter when Chavez is over. I don't think so.
SPEAKER_00She told me last week they went home at seven o'clock.
SPEAKER_02No, not okay. Not okay.
SPEAKER_03You want to know the truth? I was trying to pick one that nobody else was picking. Exactly. Dave, man of the biggest.
SPEAKER_02But if I'm going to you in the winter, I expect a ride home. It's too much. Can I ask you guys a question, though? Because this is really something where I think my my awkwardness, I don't know, self-esteem, I don't know what it is. But before the Shabbat's meal, right? The invitation to the Shabbat's meal, and I think this is for Shabbat's meals, for barbecues, for anything. You invite somebody and they say no. No problem. We'll get you another time. Let's say you try them again the following week and they say no again. So now the question is when do you next?
SPEAKER_00So you've asked them twice and they have said no again.
SPEAKER_02You've asked them twice, and it's I I'm gonna go with consecutive weeks. You asked them on week one, they said no. You invited them again week two, they said no again. When or if does the third invitation come? How much time has to elapse?
SPEAKER_00Like Dave says, it depends. It depends on the eye.
SPEAKER_03And I was about to say that again, Asher. It really, it really depends because because no meals are created equal. And no, and invites aren't created equal either. Because if you're close with somebody, if you're and and and you you eat there or they eat by you, you might you just might be unavailable. You know, and that just and that happens. If it's a random invite where it's like, oh, you know what? I would like to invite the Ackermans to Chavez, and then you invite them on with with enough warning, not like, not like Friday morning, you know, or and then you invite them again, then sometimes you just gotta take the hint.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Right, but how do you know? How do you know when someone is like I mean, it's hard because like take John, for example. John used to go to show with us, he used to go to the young Gazille of West Hempstead, then he moved to Dogwood. He's one of the fancy people now, and he divins in a totally different shoulder. We love Rebbe Torchina, it's Hai and whatever. But like at a certain point, what's the message? He's clearly sending us a message, he does not want to spend time with us, and yet from time to time we still get the invite. So I don't know what to do. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I don't know what the etiquette is. I and I've had this issue before where I'm I'm talking about inviting people who you're not like, you know, best, best friends with, and you know there's a thing. They have a bar mitzvah, right? They can't come. Fine. Okay, right.
SPEAKER_00So they have a legitimate first reason.
SPEAKER_02Um right, legit and the second time they can't make it or whatever. I'm saying people you're friendly with or borderline friends with, not like super close friends. You invited them twice. How long do you need to wait? Do you need to wait for them to invite you first now? Like, how long do you wait for six months? Six months. Six months?
SPEAKER_00Where did you get that number from?
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_03I just totally made it up. That's that's no, there's really, I'll be honest with you, there's no thought into my six months. I went to the number that came to my mind. Listen, like I completely like checked out. It was just six months. Six months. So this is a good thing. What are we talking about? No idea.
SPEAKER_00This is a deep dark secret. I am going to now confess something right here, right now. Please don't. I assume that at this point in the show nobody's listened anymore.
SPEAKER_02But God, wonderful.
SPEAKER_00I do not make the Shabbos plans for my for my family. My wife is the one who's responsible. It usually goes as follows Would you like to have a meal with so-and-so? And I say, no. And my wife says, Well, I already accept the invitation where we're going. And I was like, Okay, thank you for asking. I guess my input is not necessary. And usually that's how it goes. So, yeah. Can I ask?
SPEAKER_03I thought you were going somewhere else, Acher. Can I ask a really quick crazy question? And I and I and I want to point out that I really love everybody. This is a safe story. We love the whole world.
SPEAKER_02You should ask whatever you want. Feel comfortable.
SPEAKER_03And the whole quality throw. Answer honestly, right? Couldn't you? Do I have your vows that you're gonna answer me honestly as well?
SPEAKER_00We'll have honesty for me.
SPEAKER_03When sometimes somebody might back out, or sometimes you don't have that next person, and you start inviting people like like stretches. Are you afraid that they're gonna invite you back now, even if they weren't available? Um because there's some people like you stretch, you're like, I really don't want to go there though.
SPEAKER_02Interesting. So let me see my make sure I understand this. You're striking out on the invitations and you reach out to somebody who you don't want to go to their house, but there's a little fear that they might invite you to their house.
SPEAKER_03Like, it would be nice, let's just say, um, let's say uh what's a name, a totally made up name. Let's say the palers. So it oh, and you're like thinking to yourself, like, okay, we've invited 30 people. Everybody's saying no. For some reason or another. Maybe we should just take the hint. But okay, we're gonna say, what about the palers from a few blocks away? I know we don't have much to do with them, but it would be nice to invite them. And like a fear of mine when they say no that they're not available is now I'm gonna be on their radar for in two weeks.
SPEAKER_02Ah oh, so not immediate. You're saying in the future, not like now. Oh, no, no, not not turning around and saying, interesting question.
SPEAKER_00It actually raised in my head a different kind of question. What if you know that person that you're not crazy about, that you don't really want to invite them, and you know they have a simcha that week? Brilliant. Allowed to autumn like invite them that Shabbos knowing that they're going to have to see right through that. Who doesn't see through that part off the hook that you never have to invite them ever again? It's like it's like you know I'm making a bar. Dave is saying why are you inviting me? Dave says brilliant. John says don't do it. It's too obvious in my head. They're gonna say, Yeah, we'll come after the barmit's mod to a lot of. I'm not even doing a permit.
SPEAKER_03You know, you know for you just know, like, if if and I and I've never done this, but like if John, if I invite John and John says, I'm having Dwaretzky for Shabbos, sorry, like we're we're not available, but I was already having somebody, so whatever I couldn't come, and then I say, you know what? We owe Dwaretsky. And then you text Dwaretzky and say, hey, you want to come for Shabbos? You already know that's exactly what you're saying.
SPEAKER_00That's an advantage.
SPEAKER_03That's but that's not a bar mitzvah. That's like subtle more. Like you don't know that I know.
SPEAKER_01That's deep. That's very that's like I just want to I'm It's a brilliant move. I haven't done it.
SPEAKER_02Asher's idea, though, um, might be the worst idea of all time. What? What? The inviting somebody who has a simcha to knowing that they're not. Well, simcha, yeah, but what about my idea?
SPEAKER_01Your idea is. Your idea is devious.
SPEAKER_02Your idea is much more devious.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's what I thought you were getting at.
SPEAKER_00I don't have a problem with what your idea is, but it is more devious.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think you know.
SPEAKER_00Mine is like it's less subtle. Oh, I totally forgot that you had the bar mitzvah. Oh, I wasn't invited. Okay. It's like there's sons of the way. Oh, whoops. I also forgot. I know you were here too. I don't know. There's a lot of look, the other thing that I'm learning now, I'm learning this from my wife. I think this look, there's all of us are married, and one of the the most important things in a marriage, if you're lucky enough to be married, you have to learn from your spouse, and you gotta grow from your spouse. My wife is teaching me a very important lesson. If you offer and set up a potluck lunch on a Monday, and then on Wednesday, somebody offers to invite you on potluck, a all-expense paid trip lunch for Shabbos, you're allowed to drop your potluck lunch person. This is what I'm learning. I am learning it's true. You can ask the ladies. I don't think so. I don't agree with that. I think we should all ask our significant others at this moment. Avi.
SPEAKER_03Avi, could you come here?
SPEAKER_00I'm calling my wife.
SPEAKER_03Could you please come here for a second?
SPEAKER_02I think she's probably sleeping.
SPEAKER_00Is she working? Okay.
SPEAKER_03I'm I'm in very in sync with my wife. She's not gonna agree with this. I'm telling you, there is protocol for this. Okay, here we got our first wife. You ready? Yeah, go ahead. Avi. If you are invited to a potluck, please speak into the microphone. If you're invited into a to a potluck on Monday, and then get a full expense paid invite on Thursday. Can you I didn't say Thursday, I said Wednesday. Oh sorry, Wednesday. Can you tell your potluckers the hell with you? I got a real invite.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_03What did she say?
SPEAKER_00Speak it to the mic.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely not. Okay, Shoshi, here's my here's the question. You get invited potluck on a Monday for Shabbos. You get invited for a potluck on Monday for Shabbos, and then on Wednesday, somebody invites you all exped all expense paid lunch meal for Shabbos. Are you allowed to drop your potluck? Not a Wednesday. When are you allowed to do it? It has to be earlier in the week. But it is it is allowed. I don't think there's a time.
SPEAKER_04That's so not fair. I'm sorry. I don't know if I'm supposed to be a chance to do it.
SPEAKER_01John, she did it to you guys. Wow.
SPEAKER_04What?
SPEAKER_01You did it to us? No, to John.
SPEAKER_00We invited the You got to play Helensky's. Nice. We invited Nakama for a potluck, and then someone invited us, and we you dropped them. And what day of the week did you drop them? They hadn't oh Nakama hadn't responded. But that's not a drop.
SPEAKER_03That's not a drop. That you snooze and move.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I agree with Dave.
SPEAKER_02It's not a drop.
SPEAKER_03That doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Thank you for hold on. I'll try to get Nokama on the phone. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Helpful. Helpful clarification. Alright, bye-bye. So okay, so I was mistaken. I didn't realize that Nakama had not responded. That's a big detail.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So you revoke you're revoking the invite that went unanswered.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you didn't you didn't answer in time. That's not just pont luck, it's for anything, I think. If you if you didn't answer, then I'm I'm sorry, I I it's awkward. It's definitely gonna be an awkward conversation. I invited you, but I I um we're not interested anymore.
SPEAKER_00What happens if you invite, then you get into a fight in the middle of the week. Well, that's what happened to me. Get this funny story, totally unrelated. While we wait for John to get his way in yeshiva in Israel. She got invited to another thing.
SPEAKER_03When I was in when I was in yeshiva in Israel, anybody who was in my my year in Hakotel slash Nativ, the last and first, would know would remember this. We played Nakhaki hockey in the dining room.
SPEAKER_00Fantastic game.
SPEAKER_03And it was why it wasn't really Nakhaki, it was it was like real hockey in the dining room. And it was like a smaller court, got very physical, got really intense. And m a close friend of mine, now, John Friedman, he my stick got lost in the airport, so I borrowed his stick. I didn't know who he was. It was like El or post El, and I didn't know who he was, and I borrowed I borrowed his hockey stick, and he gave me a check in the middle of the game, and I checked him back, but a lot harder. And then he hit me back out with with real force, and then I threw him to the ground, and we had to be separated, it was a whole scuffle. I'm not proud of that moment, but it happened.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03I had to return his stick after the game. That's awkward. It's so awkward.
SPEAKER_01That is very awkward.
SPEAKER_03But we but we're but we we made up and we're close friends, so going back to the show.
SPEAKER_00I just want to shout out one thing, John, before you get to your thing. Avi fetter, by the way, brilliant idea that came up on the Carpool guys WhatsApp group, the charcuterie board, one might say, of WhatsApp groups. Yes. Um, he said, when I was living in Washington Heights, there was a 3 p.m. Shabbos afternoon mincha. Now, it happens to be on your side of town, John. There is a 2 p.m., which is perfect timing. I'm there all the time. Perfect timing. At the Mount Sinai Shul. It was an unwritten rule that all meals ended in time to get to that minion. To which I say, We must codify this. Write it down. All meals should end before early midnight. Yeah, but West Hempstead has lunch till four. I mean, that's like a known thing. But I don't remember being around. I don't think it's so known anymore. I know it's a thing, and it was the cookbook. I would never have moved into West Hempstead had I known that.
SPEAKER_02First of all, friend of the show, Avi Fetter, cousin of me, Avi Fetter. So thank you. Frozen? Cousin. No, actual, actual cousin. But is he also a Fresnel? We actually have a running gag because he's Nachama's he's my wife's first cousin, and I refer to him as my cousin. His whole family call my cousins. And one time Nachama said to me, You know, you're only related to them through marriage. And I said, That's true. However, I am also only related to you through marriage. And I thought that was very clever. She did not care for it. You slept on the couch that night. That's the case. That and many other consecutive nights. But let me ask you guys a different question. Going back to the pot line.
SPEAKER_03Does anybody actually ever sleep on the couch? I've only slept on the couch when I get in, like when I get like really sick. I agree.
SPEAKER_00No, I don't think I've ever slept on the couch for that. Yeah, but uh yeah, I I only slept on the couch when I wasn't.
SPEAKER_03I do think there are people that end up sleeping on the couch. I'm sure there are people I've never. Not for like a day.
SPEAKER_00There is lore in my family, though I have never been awake for this, that my wife will sleep on the couch if I'm snoring too much. Whatever. No comment.
SPEAKER_02It's not a punishment. It's a solution. It's not a punishment. It's not a punishment. Right. Wait, going back to the uh potluck idea for a second, do you ever feel I always feel weird if we haven't had somebody over first for like a regular Shabbos meal, going directly, like jumping directly to potluck. Do you guys feel that way? I agree with that.
SPEAKER_03If you if you if you I'm gonna say quote unquote owe somebody a meal, you can't call them up first as a potluck.
SPEAKER_00I hear that. At the same time, I think I don't remember. I'm not an expert on these things again, as I said. I don't make the the rule, I don't make the uh arrangements in my house. But I I think that as we have gotten to our age, most of the meals that we go to are potluck. Is that not correct? A lot are.
SPEAKER_01I would say 50-50.
SPEAKER_0350-50? Another made-up stat. I feel like it's 70-30.
SPEAKER_00It's like 70-30, I think, at this point. Uh I don't know. I uh I hear your point though, John. If it it but again, sponsored by depends. It could be that it could be that it's it depends on the person.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I just feel like I feel uncomfortable sometimes saying, hey, we've never had you over but come for a potluck. I feel like the first invitation has to be a real invitation, and then you can graduate to potluck.
SPEAKER_00That's fair. Yeah, okay. If you also have other things you would like to set as ground rules for your Shabbos meals, please send them to us. Oh, I had one last question, and that is how inappropriate is it, and I'm asking for myself because I may have done this this past Shabbos, to say, can we bench? Because I want to go home and take a nap.
SPEAKER_03You could you could ask that quickly.
SPEAKER_00Totally fine.
SPEAKER_03See, but sometimes that's a vibe killer. Like meaning I know we we're debating how long the lunch should be. But some people say, and I and I think I'm I am in that boat. Shabbos is till nine o'clock. Uh yes, I do like to take my naps, I take long naps. But I don't need to be home at two o'clock.
SPEAKER_00So if just because you wanna just have a have your harusa and you wanna bench early, you could I was at a meal this past week and one of the people claimed that they took a nap during the day because things were a little bit slow during work. I don't have that luxury. I was really tired. I wanted to take a nap.
SPEAKER_02I think it's okay. I think it's acceptable to ask and say, hey, can we bench? I'm exhausted. I think it's fine. People have exhausting jobs. It's fine. I think it shows a comfort and a confidence to be able to say, Hey, we're on the same wavelength. You get me. I want to go take a nap, can we bench? Totally acceptable. Fine. I appreciate your validation.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I just feel like it could be it could be a vibe killer. It could kill the whole momentum of the mean. That's true. You got well, you gotta then everybody leave and you're sitting there.
SPEAKER_02Like it's two o'clock and I got seven more hours of Shabbas. Right. Well, there's gotta be a time. Like, when is it appropriate? Two o'clock's a little early for that, but yeah. Agreed.
SPEAKER_03I got a very good question of the week. Let's do it. Question of the week. Alright. So here's the question of the week. And I I feel bad because it was when I was in camp after it was announced, and I don't have the camper's name.
SPEAKER_01Whoa.
SPEAKER_03But it was when I was announced that I have my own podcast. And one and and one of the cubs, which is the youngest division, he did come over to me. And I'm saying it was probably a bunk one type cub, like maybe going into like, what is it, third or fourth grade?
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_03And he said to me, he said, What list celebrity do you think you are? And he wasn't saying it out of arrogance. He wasn't he wasn't saying it to like to like mock us. He I mean he was asking me this question, but I'm obviously asking it for all three of us. He wasn't asking to as a mock, he wasn't asking, he was he was legitimately starstruck. And he asked me what level celebrity do you think I am? And so I'm gonna say, what level of celebrity do you think we are?
SPEAKER_00I don't know how to respond to that question. Because like I don't consider ourselves celebrities in any way, shape, or form. Like, we are dads. This is what we do for fun. Bar Hashem, some people enjoy it. Some people come over to us in Shul and say, Oh, I listened, then it's cute, and then somebody came over at work. I I don't I it don't even have an answer. I I I respect that the kid asked the question. I'm we're not looking to be celebrities here. That being said, please don't forget to like and subscribe.
SPEAKER_03That was I'm gonna I'm gonna speak on behalf of this kid. That was a little bit of a cop out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But it's the right, but it's the truth. You wanted honesty from us a few minutes ago. That's the truth. Nah, cop out, still cop out.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna jump in because Osher refuses to answer the question. I refuse to answer the question. And I will answer honestly also. Okay. So, first of all, um, I had a great, great compliment, and uh I got a lot of laughs from this. Uh friend of the show, Hillal Klein. I think it was Hillo, one of your students, Usher. Wow. Um, I'm pretty sure it was Hillo. This might have been his brother Avi, but I'm pretty sure it was Hillel. And I heard the story from their dad from a good friend of mine, Aton Klein, Pam and Aton, friends of the show. Yeah, and then Hill's got another 55. Twin brother of Gotti, Dr. Twin brother of Gotti. Hill said, um, he said, Dad, I think that you and John Ackerman are the most famous people in the entire shoul. Whoa. And uh, and Eton got a good laugh out of that. And he's like, You sure? And he goes, It's probably John. I think John is probably the most famous person in our entire shoulder. And I was like, wow, in the whole shoul, that's that's that's pretty good. So I will say that uh what list are we on? Um I'm gonna go Michelle more than Rebbe Torcina.
SPEAKER_00Rebbe Rebbe Mitchell, Rebbe Torcina.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's it's listen, I'm not saying I'm you know, I didn't say that we're the I'm the most famous person in the show. I still owe you were buying it!
SPEAKER_00My students.
SPEAKER_02I'm just saying I appreciated the compliment. I'm gonna go Q in the alphabet. We're we're Q list celebrities. That's my that's my answer. I think we're on we're in the alphabet. We're in the alphabet.
SPEAKER_00I don't even think we're in the alphabet.
SPEAKER_02We are no, we are. We are in the alphabet. When I went to pick up my daughter Nava from uh from camp the other day, one of her friends came over to me and said, I saw you on TikTok. You're a celebrity. And I was like, wow, that's amazing. We're on the list. We're we're in the alphabet. That's what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Q, and I'm happy to be here. Are we on TikTok? Yeah, we're on my TikTok.
SPEAKER_03So I'm I'm a little bit I'm a little bit different. I'm gonna say Asher's gonna make fun of me. I find myself a little bit. I find myself in a little bit of a different thing. Obviously, I think strictly carpool guys, a lot of people have seen us in their feed, and they do say we don't know how you got on my feed, but I watched X. Or I don't know how I don't know how you ended up, but I saw your face talking about some random thing about this, you know, like, and we get that all the time. That gets you somewhere on the list. Then I'm just saying personally, I I mean I did call the radio show for many years, and I am also that's not fair.
SPEAKER_00You are a celebrity in that way. I thought you were referring to us.
SPEAKER_03No, no, but I'm just saying, but it's a it's a it's a it's it's yes, but I think people know Dave from Flatbush. If you want to separate it then, I will say that that we are somewhere that people are seeing our faces. The question is, the question is, and I don't know how the algorithm works, I don't know, and people please chime in and help me on this. But if I go into Gourmet Glot, busy time, based on the the feeds and people commenting to me, does anybody look at me and uh and it's a serious question, I don't know, and or or Asher or John and say, Hey, that guy looks familiar. If that's the case, then we gotta be at least a G.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so I'm gonna tell you now Wow. Now that you told your story about your your th so I once got a call from Rabbi Mordechai Kemonetsky, who is the Roshiva of South Shore. And he called me up and he said, Rabbi Doretsky, I am so appreciative for the speech that you gave in Yeshiva the other day. It was fantastic. The students found it incredible and amazing. And I said to Rebbe Kemonatsky, I really appreciate the phone call, but I'm pretty sure you're talking about my cousin. So I am gonna tell you that my cousin. I did not speak at the shore at all. But we had a good laugh about it. We it was very fun, and then I called my cousin, who is a very prominent Rebbe in Yeshiva Farakwe and doing great things there, but he is clearly far more famous than I am. So he's in the alphabet too. He's in the alphabet. I am not looking at the case.
SPEAKER_03I'm not going crazy, and sometimes I'll ask I get asked questions.
SPEAKER_00It is a weird question. I wouldn't know.
SPEAKER_03I get into the Jewish views, yeah, but that's also like I'm But I'm talking about I'm talking about strictly this podcast, right? This podcast. Do you think we walk anywhere? And anybody is looking at you saying, Who is that guy?
SPEAKER_02I recognize that. But do you want that? I don't want that. I don't think you say he wants it. He's just asking the reality. I'm asking a question here. What's the situation? I'm gonna say we're in the alphabet. Q is the 17th letter, I believe. That's what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say we're the k in the kid. It ends at F. What do you mean it ends at F? Why does it have to end at F? We're not like grading ourselves.
SPEAKER_00I have no desire to be part of this part this conversation. That's a cop out. It's a cop. I'll take the cop out. I will take the cop out. I respect the kid. That's not where we're doing this. We are doing this to be meaningful, entertaining, and to give children satisfaction of uh listening to something whatever. We want to really want to know the true answer. They asked me to host the Emmys. I said no. I didn't want to host the Emmys. I didn't want you guys to be embarrassed.
SPEAKER_02It's hard when Dave asks a relatively simple question and you can't answer it.
SPEAKER_00I don't want to answer it. Ask me a different question. No. Yes.
SPEAKER_01I want to be asked a different question.
SPEAKER_00No, don't play the music. Stop playing the music. I want to know a different question. Ask me a food question. What is my favorite food of the nine days? None of it. I don't want to eat any dairy. David. I want to make a CMO top.
SPEAKER_03I got a different question for you. Wait, wait, John. I got another question for Osher. Yeah. Go ahead. Being your current celebrity status. Which is nothing. How much would you charge on Cameo for a birthday message? That's a good question.
SPEAKER_00Alright, that's a good question. I will say on Cameo, I would I would charge $40. Realistically, I would charge $40. But I would make a good I would make a good video. I'd make it entertaining and fun, and I would, you know, I think people would be able to do that. They would literally be sitting there staring at the screen. That's a great question. I'd be they would be staring there like I don't know who that person is. I've never seen it. If anybody wants to be, I'd say there are so many random people on cameo.
SPEAKER_02We should be on there. We should be on cameo.
SPEAKER_00Why are we not on cameo? I don't know. What who is that congressman, George Santos that went to prison? He's on cameo. We could be on cameo. He's famous.
SPEAKER_02There have been shows about him. That's fair. Dave, remember when we got Usher a cameo?
SPEAKER_00That was very nice. Yeah, that was a cool one. That was very cool. I should watch that again. You should I got Howie Rose a cameo uh uh cameo for one of uh not him a cameo one of one of the uh special ed teachers in Hank. She was crying. That's cool. It was it was beautiful. I I forty dollars.
SPEAKER_02That's all I'm worth two bucks. Two bucks? You would do it for two bucks.
SPEAKER_00Two bucks. All right. I think it's time to wrap this up. Don't forget to like and subscribe. Thanks so much. And if you do recognize us, come over and say hello. We are not celebrities. We don't you know who at if I wanted to be a celebrity yourself. John's the most famous person to come out of Minnesota. Ever in Minnesota history. I will say this. If I was ever to be a celebrity, I want to be like Shaquille O'Neal. Warm, caring, sensitive, gives hugs. He's a man.
SPEAKER_02Usher's like, I don't want to be a celebrity, but if I ever wasn't a little bit of a couple of things, I'm gonna charge $30 on Cameo, and you know what?
SPEAKER_03I'll find I'll kiss babies.
SPEAKER_02Just tell me what the dude's multi-multi-millionaire, megastar Shaquille O'Neal, Hall of Fame basketball player. Usher's like, I don't want to be a celebrity, but I want to be like Shaq.
SPEAKER_00I relate to him, we're the same height.
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