Season Ends; Season Begins: Wolves’ Future & Lynx First Look

The Wolves’ playoff run is over, and we break down what their exit means for the future, from roster decisions to the next steps for the franchise. Then we shift to the Lynx, recapping the start of their season and what their early performances reveal about where they’re headed. One season ends, another begins, and Minnesota basketball keeps moving. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:26

Welcome to Love and Basketball, a Timberlink fancast. I'm Matt.

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And I'm Marissa, and we're a married couple and longtime fans of the Minnesota Timberwolves and Lynx.

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Every week we break down the games, spill the off-court tea, and share our takes. This is our weekly catch-up, and you're invited.

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Welcome back, friends, and today's episode we'll talk about the Wolves Western Conference semifinal exit against San Antonio.

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And we'll share our thoughts on the Wolves roster moving forward as well as review the first games of the Lynx regular season.

SPEAKER_05 1:00

Before we get into you know our exit, I just want to share with our our listeners or people who follow us why it's been uh you know this whole series since we since we last recorded. Um it's not anything personal, nothing bad happened, but we realized it's really hard to be, you know, scheduled to do podcasts when things aren't necessarily going your way. At least that's what I thought. Um how are you feeling about all of that?

SPEAKER_02 1:31

Yeah, it's you don't necessarily want to break down what went wrong. It's much more exciting to break down things that went well. And the Denver series was very exciting, it was full of a little bit of drama from Jaden, and um most of the games were really competitive, and so there were there was a lot of things to talk about, and this series didn't feel very competitive. I mean, we did make it a six-game series, right? However, there were three games where we got blown out by a lot.

SPEAKER_05 2:08

By a lot, and it was painful, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:10

Yeah, they were painful to watch, and sometimes we had a hard time watching the entire game, so wanting to talk about it.

SPEAKER_05 2:16

The only game that I felt good about was the first game that we won.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

Game one.

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And we and we almost gave it away at the very end.

SPEAKER_04 2:22

Yeah.

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And we're not gonna rehash all the games today, but we will take some of the highlights. You know, I think we were up by almost I I think it was like eight minutes or eight points with like less than two minutes left.

SPEAKER_02 2:33

And people were saying, Oh, the Timberwolves are gonna win this series. Right. Right. Like very well respected analysts were like, oh, this is the Timberwolves series.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

Um, which is a little bit laughable now. Um yeah, every every game thereafter, other than um I guess it was game five. Uh we won game five, right? Or was it game four? We won game. We won game four and we lost games five and six, and those were both really.

SPEAKER_05 3:04

Let's talk briefly about what happened in game four and why we won that game.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05 3:08

That's so that's why game one was, it seemed like the only one that really counted because a legitimate win. Legitimate win. And game four, in the second quarter, about four or five minutes into the second quarter, um Wemby got a rebound and was harassed by Nasre and Jaden McKay. There's a lot of physicality. No foul, I don't think, was called on that.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

No.

SPEAKER_05 3:36

Um oh yes, there was. There was a foul called on Jayden?

unknown 3:40

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

I don't remember a foul being called.

SPEAKER_05 3:44

Okay. Well, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 3:45

He took it into his own hands. That's how the coach described it.

SPEAKER_05 3:48

Yes, Wemby decided to um basically, I don't know, aim and fire his elbow at Nasreed's face. Yeah. Hit him in the neck, um, and he was ejected. Um, and he should have been. It was a flagrant two because there was definite intent. You know, he he wasn't part of the play. He looked at him, he was upset. And and he he basically punched him.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

Um I would uh But this is the pointiest elbow in the world, by the way. Can you picture anyone else in the world having a pointier elbow?

SPEAKER_05 4:20

No, him are like the the two taking a um I'm trying to think of something really pointy.

SPEAKER_02 4:27

Chop that's taking a chopstick and pointing it in someone, like jabbing it.

SPEAKER_05 4:30

Yeah, yeah, he it was it was a violent move and he got he got thrown from it. And he didn't know that he acted like he had he didn't know what the rules were like what do I do now?

SPEAKER_02 4:41

And like, dude, you have to leave.

SPEAKER_05 4:43

Dude, you're gone. You're you're you're out of this game.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

Um And we were behind most of that game even without Wemby.

SPEAKER_05 4:49

Yes, yes, and so that says a lot right there. I mean the Spurs are a good team, hands down.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

On the perimeter, they surprised me. That's that's probably what was the most deflating for me when we were losing by so many so much, was because it was the prim it wasn't even always Wemby that frustrated me. It was their perimeter shooting.

SPEAKER_05 5:08

Um and defense, and then they also play really good defense and make us look silly, so so it was it was a rough, it was a rough series, and we ended up getting blown out by 31 or something like that in the final game. Yeah, game six, and I didn't finish the game, which says a lot. So apologies to every all of our listeners for our own mental health.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

We took a little bit of a break, and we also didn't consume a lot of like media coverage like normally. We even after losses, we tend to listen to every post-game press conference, and we didn't. Um, and you know, we we heard that and um dapped people up with eight minutes left. This was all this was some controversy, which I think you and I missed a little bit because we're like, why? It was blown out, like yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:56

I I think all of the national media that blew this out of proportion were just looking for something to talk about because let's let's put this in perspective. He acknowledged that they were losing to the point where he wasn't gonna be subbed back in. The game was over for him.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

The starters were taken out.

SPEAKER_05 6:14

The starters were taken out.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

What does that mean when a coach takes out their starters? It means that they're giving up.

SPEAKER_05 6:20

So and wanted to basically, in my opinion, I saw it as a form of respect. Yeah. Like you guys just handed us our tails, and I'm gonna come over. Yes, it's with eight minutes left, but the game is over. And and everyone blew that out of proportion. Say that it was unprofessional, like you should always. No, it was it was it was way unprofessional before that, where there was a whole bunch of players that didn't seem to come to play. That was the unprofessional part. Like, um, I don't know. I I was just I was frustrated with I'll be honest, I'm just frustrated with national media and actually local media too, um, you know, in response to this this particular series. So um It was terrible to listen to.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

We and I know we aren't the only ones, but we listen to every game on mute.

SPEAKER_05 7:08

Yeah.

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And I've heard from several f family members that they had to do the same.

SPEAKER_05 7:14

It was just a Wemby fest. Oh my gosh. Gosh.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

If you if you th oh my gosh. Jokic has nothing on Wemby in terms of like we always thought, oh, they kiss his butt. They just love No, it's nothing. And that's why when he did elbow with his um he elbowed Nas. We we expected more, but yet didn't because he's the golden boy of the NBA. And people were like, Well, we can't take him out.

SPEAKER_05 7:43

Oh, well, we we we didn't finish the story. So after the game, after the next day, when fines and penalties, you know, come out nothing.

SPEAKER_02 7:53

No suspension.

SPEAKER_05 7:54

No suspension, no suspension. No fine. No fine. Like there's a minimum fine for a flagrant two, period, and he didn't even get that. So the it the the favoritism is in it's they want him to be pristine. I actually I I know that this sounds counterintuitive to what I've just said. I kind of liked that he did it. It showed me that there was something more than just You like that he elbowed him? I like that he had some sort of frustration and that he acted out like it meant to me it looked like he was like human because I would be that I would be frustrated with how I was getting played. Like they it was a physical game. And and he came out and he did something wrong. I'm not saying it was right, but I'm I'm like I understood it. So um overall, yeah, he should have been suspended for a game. Because if you punch somebody, you get a suspension, and it was a punch.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

So let's say that he did get suspended, just let's say he did that next game. Let's say we were able to win it.

SPEAKER_05 8:56

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

Would we have any shot of winning the series?

SPEAKER_05 8:59

No, because we still had to win we still had to win game seven back in San Antonio. Yeah, yeah, it it doesn't matter. And we can we'll get into this, but it it really didn't, it didn't matter in the big scheme of things. Our team was injured, they didn't play well, they didn't play cohesive basketball, and they fell into San Antonio's defensive trap. And that's what I felt.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

And we're recording this after the first game of the Western Conference Finals has already come and gone, and San Antonio beat OKC. OKC the perfect team that you know swept the first, you know, two contenders in their first two rounds. Um so San Antonio is a problem for the league. And I just want to say this, because this is what I felt. It wasn't just it was a much different frustration that I felt against than against Denver. San Antonio, I felt hopelessness, not just as a Timberwolves fan, but as an NBA fan. Because I don't see how any team is gonna beat them. I don't see how any team is gonna, any player is gonna guard Wemby. It's not like, oh, we'll just trade Rudy and go get the next guy who can shoot from the perimeter and is 7'5. That doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Right.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

And I just felt hopelessness. I was like, well, what's the point of even trying? And I wonder if like Ant just finally he he persevered for as long as he could until he finally was like, I'm gonna dap up this team, they beat us. And I feel like I got there before Ant did. And I was like, what are we supposed to do? Yeah, and he frustrated me because he's impossible to win against. That's and he's annoying. I'm sorry. He's unsettling to watch and look at. I don't enjoy that at all. And to watch our players, oh my gosh, our players who are so tall look like tiny, like tiny little figurines trying to guard him.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:53

And it just filled me with sadness because it's not like you can just like no matter what smoke Jaden tries to, you know, bring out, there nothing's gonna matter. There's no like what defense, like what could we have done? We could have done better, and the scores could have been a lot closer.

SPEAKER_04 11:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

But I don't I don't see, I don't see that a team can beat them, and I don't see that's across the league. I think the Knicks and the Cavs are probably going, God, one of us is gonna have to play San Antonio.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

That sucks.

SPEAKER_05 11:26

Well, we we can roll into that portion of it. Like, I I'm you know, everyone is doom and gloom, not you. You know, you're not we're both still a little glassful, a little half full. But on the on the overall Timberwolves. Like that's cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

I think there's I just think this is an impossible team. I think we're a great team.

SPEAKER_05 11:47

I I people are talking about blowing up the team, you know, trading everybody, you know, Jaden included, everybody, you know, and I look at it like yes, we had a bet. I can pinpoint some players that we'll talk about, but overall, we took the Spurs to six games. Yeah. Ant had no knees and was incredible.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Like, okay, so he was not supposed to be back by then.

SPEAKER_05 12:11

He wasn't supposed to be back in game one, and he was, and he he averaged what 25-28 points, something like that. Like, it was incredible. What he did was incredible. And and the reason why say that I mean, it wasn't just on on offense, but you could see that he just didn't have the lateral quickness. He couldn't jump.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

He can't dunk.

SPEAKER_05 12:30

He couldn't even dunk. No, like it was like that's that's um fast break that he had, like he stole the ball and he ran down, he almost stuck like got stuffed by the rim, like, because it was he just can't couldn't jump. So it wasn't it wasn't our player at his best. So if you put Dante on that team with his his outside shooting, you put uh not injured, and you have Julius show up a little bit in the series on on the offensive end, just a little bit, not as bad as he was, that goes seven games, and there's a chip, a chair, and a chance, right? Like you you have a chance to win. I I just I don't think we're that far off if we're we're if we're f healthy.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

But isn't it amazing that against the Nuggets, we didn't have Ant.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

Right.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

We didn't have Dante, right? We didn't have Io. Well, we didn't for some of the games. Um and we still like I think I I unfortunately that series gave me some hope. It gave everybody hope. Yeah, it's like wow, we're good even without you know four of our. And I think we need to remember that though.

SPEAKER_05 13:39

Like I think I think what what everyone is so quick to do is okay, so two weeks ago, we were incredible.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Rudy's getting a few.

SPEAKER_05 13:50

We had the deepest team in the league, we had the best center, everything was just everyone getting their flowers, like we had said many times the last, you know, podcast, and it was the last episode, and it was just no one could say enough good things. And now the end of the world has happened. Finch is in trouble, everyone's getting traded, like all of it, and it's like, okay, I know, I know it we lost, it sucked, but come on, come on.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Well, should we go there now and talk a little bit about uh what people are mostly talking about, and I agree, I've heard all of the above of what you've talked about. What I've mostly heard about is Julius Randle.

SPEAKER_05 14:27

Yeah, yeah. I mean, and and I think you should talk about it because I have been spewing this since the trade deadline. So you you go.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

Well, I do think and I have to be honest, like I'm everyone knows I'm not a huge Julius fan. I often forget he's on our team. Um, he's a little forgettable both in his personality and his play. Um, but I have to say, like what I've heard in all of across the league, across social media, regular media, is like it hurts my feelings for him, even though I don't disagree necessarily, but it feels a little bit harsh. Um Kendrick Perkins said the Timberwolves should trade him for a box of popcorn, and Julius responded, of course, he has to um say something about food. Which the reason that I didn't even like laugh, I was like, oh my gosh, Julius is reading he's reading all these comments. And after um on the final game six, every single player was interviewed except um Julius refused to um come out to be interviewed. I don't have his stats pulled up, but they were atrocious.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

Yeah.

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Um for the whole series. I'm trying to remember against the Nuggets, nothing as bad.

SPEAKER_05 15:48

Not as bad, but it wasn't good.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Not great. Um, we were really needing him to step up, and also like it's a really difficult matchup. Um so I'm just feeling kind of like sad for him because he's human and like right now, the league's like you should just go away. We you should just be traded for like two role players, that's all you're worth. Just get rid of them, and you know, basically anything's better than Julius Randle. I'm not necessarily saying that I disagree, but it feels so harsh and so reactive. Like you said, a couple weeks ago he was being interviewed by Shaquille O'Neal and Charles Barkley for hey man, this great Denver, you're just sticking it to him, and now it's like go trade him for a box of popcorn feels disrespectful.

SPEAKER_05 16:36

It it it does, and it is. Um I think that one of the most shocking parts of the post-interview stuff, along with Randall not being there, is that almost to a player. They all talked about moodiness moodiness in the locker room.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

The locker room is moody. And which is an interesting word, right? How do you interpret the word moody? Because I have my own interpretation.

SPEAKER_05 17:01

Well, I think that we're filled with a bunch of moody players. Um, but I know what they were talking about. They were talking about the individual that decided to leave the facility before his job was done and talking to the media.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

Like his moody butt home.

SPEAKER_05 17:14

Yeah, I mean, it was it it was a slam by his co you know, his teammates, um, without naming him. That's how I felt. Um Dante also brought it up.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Dante. So Dante Nas, were those the only two?

SPEAKER_05 17:28

Aunt. Yeah, what it I don't remember what he said, but well he was just talking, he was talking about the overall, like he was talking about the overall feeling in in the locker room and the overall professionalism and developing habits and all this kind of stuff. And and that again was I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

I know, and Julius has been a part of a lot of locker rooms, so it's not like he's still learning and growing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:54

He's one of the veterans. And it goes, this goes to there's a lot of things involved in Julius's play and the and the team with Julius involved. Like there are there were moves and there were things to do that Finch should own up to.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:14

And and you know, one of the great things about Finch and one of Finch's faults is that he's loyal, extremely loyal, and he tries to get the most out of people by by playing time and by comments, and I feel as though he should have put all of that aside and had Julius come off the bench. I think it it would have. I'm not saying that Nasreed is a better defender. I'm not s but there's just something about the optics. You know, I don't know all of the plays that are supposed to be happening. I don't know what Julius' responsibilities are on all of the all of the plays, but there when you watch them, it I don't know, he just drags down the team's effort level, at least like visually, it's like, oh, this isn't gonna happen. Now, there are you can point to situations where you're like, oh, that was great defense, one-on-one defense by Julius. Like, there are times where he did stand out one-on-one, but I just don't see it in any other capacity. I see I see laziness most of the time, and I think laziness is infectious. I think um Right, just like how the opposite is true, right?

SPEAKER_02 19:32

Like it just those Io comes out or um Jaden, you know, they really instill that in everyone else.

SPEAKER_05 19:38

So and let's put it out there, like Julius need like we needed him to hit from the outside. We needed him to score it all. Yeah. And he he shot less than 20%. I think it was like 18-19% from three in the postseason. That's horrible. I mean, I could go out and shoot 18% in Really? No, not at all.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

I was like, that's pretty good.

SPEAKER_05 20:01

I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, if there were no one on the court, I might be able to hit two out of ten, maybe. Um that's bad.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:10

That's really bad.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 20:12

I mean, so anyway, that's Julius.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Um well, let's go into next season and what we're thinking um of who stays and who's go and who goes. I heard Tim Connolly say today that he's hopeful to bring those who are under 26 back.

SPEAKER_03 20:33

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

So interesting. What that means, I'm just gonna go through who's not 26 years old or younger, or older. Wait, who is 26 or older? Mike Connolly, Dante Di Vincenzo, Joe Ingalls, he's already signed with an Australian team. Julius Rudy.

SPEAKER_04 20:52

Interesting comment.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

It's an interesting comment. Like those are those are the ones he's hopeful of bringing back. Now he's like, didn't confirm anything, but that's what he's saying he's hopeful about. And all of the talk that I've heard is around Julius Rudy. Um, I mean, Mike, we never know. You know, Mike's in a different boat.

SPEAKER_05 21:12

Mike's gonna be a coach. Yeah, like that's what he's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Um, he said he just said yesterday he's hopeful that he has this season has taught him that he has more play left in him. Yes, yes. Um we do have a dilemma at the point guard spot. You know, Dante is not a point guard, played that for us this year. That we never thought, oh, he's a great point guard. Um we love Dante, but that was that's not the answer. Even if we keep Dante he's not a point guard.

SPEAKER_05 21:40

Well, he's not gonna play next year for the majority of the year. For the entire year.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 21:44

So that's that's that's a big that's a big caveat to even what we can do with him and what you know, all of those things.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

So that that's it's an interesting and Tim Conley said that um signing IO is a priority.

SPEAKER_05 21:57

And I'm glad to hear that.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

Mm hmm.

SPEAKER_05 21:59

Um Yeah. I think it's this is one of those things in Conley I trust.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 22:08

Even though Julius and Kat's we lost Cat. So I've heard I've talked or I've heard a lot of people over the last week talk about like reanalyzing or reliving the cat trade and why it was now disastrous. And I just want to put it out there for everybody to hear from my perspective. It was more about the contract and the flexibility of moving cat than it was about the players we got in return.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:39

So, you know, we got Julius, we got Dante, we ended up getting Joan Berenger because of it. Yes, that those and Joan looks pretty good. Yeah. Dante has been great.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

Amazing.

SPEAKER_05 22:52

And his contract has been wonderful for the team. And I can't say enough good things about Dante. Julius, everyone knows how I feel about that.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

But it wasn't altogether awful. I think last year during the postseason, people were like, This is a great trade, even trade.

SPEAKER_05 23:08

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

They're not saying that now, but again, that's after one.

SPEAKER_05 23:11

Right. And but people need to remember that we wouldn't have been able to sign Jaden at the deal that we signed him at, and Nas at the deal that we signed him at if Kat was on the team. So in a sense, we got we got Julius, Dante, Yohan, Jaden, and Nas on the team because of that move.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:32

People can disagree with that, but at least put it all in perspective. It isn't Julius and Dante for Kat.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

That's so now all the rage is talking about what who's aunt's number two gonna be? Because he doesn't, we thought that could maybe be Julius, and that is not the case. So um Giannis's name has come up. Could he be number two? Um that's what Owen really wants to do. Owen woke up the morning after we lost game six and said, I want Julius off my team, and I just want to sign Giannis. And I think to him it was just like a quick way to not be in the situation that we're in, perhaps.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

Um I don't, I'm like, how tall is Giannis? How does he guard Wemby? Like, I'm not convinced anyone can, so I don't I mean, I definitely think he would provide he would definitely be Ant's number two, which we don't have.

SPEAKER_05 24:24

Of course, of course he would be, but but again, everyone needs to realize what you have to give up to get Giannis. It's Jaden.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Like it's it's Julius and that's Ant's favorite player, so I don't think Ant wants to give up his favorite player in the NBA for his number two.

SPEAKER_05 24:40

This and this is one of those scenarios, like I I have a hard time justifying making that move for for Giannis when he's injured. He hasn't like completed a season, like he hasn't played enough in three years. So I'm worried I'm worried about that. Yeah, he's like to me to me it's like a I mean it it's like a um the Kevin Durant stuff. I think Kevin Durant quite that bad, but yes, but it's it's venturing to that. Like like I understand that Durant is a great player. I understand that Giannis is a great player, but what are we giving up for like a maybe a year or two window before then we have to try to trade his giant contract to get Ant another number two because he's either injured or like he's passed his prime. Again, I don't know where Giannis is at with his injury stuff, but I know that he's been injured a lot. So I don't buy into it as much. So if you package Julius in anything, I would hope that Nas Reed has earned the right to try to be a power forward in the league as a starter. So my goal wouldn't be to get a a number two in the power forwards. No, I would I would trade if I'm trading, I'm keep like I think in in in my opinion, you keep Rudy no matter what.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

So you're saying his number two is gonna be a point guard?

SPEAKER_05 26:03

I'm saying his number two should be a point guard. Yes. I I think that we need a traditional point guard. We need someone, I mean, let's just hypothetically, like De'Aaron Fox. So San Antonio is not going to be able to hold on and get as many assets for their players as they can going down. De'Aaron Fox is a little bit older than the rest of their point guards that they have, which they have a plethora of, and and all good. I'm not saying that they would do a deal for Julius. There would be a 13, there'd be something crazy going on, and I don't even mean De'Aaron Fox specifically, but that type of player that is like a dynamic, fast point guard that can both dish and score. Like, I I think that there needs to be a shift in that.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

Um, how do we beat San Antonio with just a new point guard, but still Rudy and Nas? You think we could?

SPEAKER_05 26:56

I Yes, I from the things that I said before, I think that a better point guard, less turnovers, a healthy ant, a better Nas, and you know, I think that we have the players, we have the team that can beat them in seven games. Do I think we're better than them? Not necessarily, but that's the everyone's gonna have to face that. Like for for at least three years until they can't afford their team anymore. They're we're all gonna be facing that. Like, how do we compete? Not how to how do we beat beat? Because it's gonna be hard. Right. It's gonna be really hard.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

A lot of the speculation that I've seen includes Julius and Rudy in various packages.

SPEAKER_05 27:43

So what is so that that's an interesting deal, because then we're giving up our only two bigs, because Nas is kind of a big. Right. And then you have Yohan, who's not ready. Right. So I like Rudy, I like Rudy to stay, not only because he's still I mean, let's think back to Denver. Think back to Denver. Everyone thought he was the greatest thing in the world.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Sometimes, depending on the team.

SPEAKER_05 28:10

And then he's mentoring the next French center for us. You know what I mean? Like, I I I want that intact. I think that that's important. I don't necessarily un understand where I would rather see, and this is crazy, but I'd rather see Julius and Nas be traded together than Rudy, Rudy and Julius. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

I agree. I get my two in my feelings about it. I um it's not personal, but those are the least likable players on the team. So let's get rid of the ones that aren't very likable. They give terrible interviews, they're boring. Um oh wait, that's not what we're assessing here.

SPEAKER_05 28:50

But um No, I I understand what you're saying. I think that it's easy to to to love Nas, but Nas has upside.

unknown 29:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:01

You need to give up somebody that you can't just go like and we don't have a plethora of first-round picks because of, you know, the Rudy deal. You know.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

I've seen Nas's name as well. Yeah, I've seen all three of their ones.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

I don't like I don't like it, but at the same time, I'm I'm trying to be like, I don't know, somewhat subjective.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

Realistic and objective. Subjective, yeah. Okay, so Matt, we're gonna do a new segment called Keep, Trade, or Walk. I'll give you the name of a player. Okay. You say what we should do. Mike Honley.

SPEAKER_04 29:36

Walk.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Dante.

SPEAKER_04 29:39

Keep.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

Nas.

SPEAKER_04 29:42

Trade.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

Jaden.

SPEAKER_04 29:44

Keep.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

Jalen.

SPEAKER_05 29:49

Keep because it doesn't cost anything.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

Okay, I've seen his name attached to some people.

SPEAKER_05 29:53

That would be great. I mean, if he if you could get value for him, if you can get anything for him, I'll trade him.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

Okay. Joey's already signed. Io. Keep Julius.

SPEAKER_05 30:04

Share bye bye.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

Rudy. Keep Aunt.

SPEAKER_05 30:08

Keep TJ.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Keep Yohan.

SPEAKER_05 30:11

Oh, for sure, keep. Like that's a lock.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:14

So in my opinion, I would understand if they they could probably package a pretty s if they included TJ, it would probably be a good thing. For the uh like for us in the long run. Because he's To keep him? No, to trade him. Like I I I I want to keep him, but I think it would be probably smart to trade him because there's this perception of TJ Shannon right now that is like, oh man, he's got untapped potent potential. Yeah. And he's going he's he's great.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Oof. I'm sorry, I just thought back to some of those blocks that Wimby did on.

SPEAKER_05 30:49

Oh, I know, right?

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Oh, that's so painful. I don't want to be thinking about it. But I do love that he kept going at him.

SPEAKER_05 30:54

He's fearless.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

So you could probably get something for him. I am proud of the Timberwolves for not being like so fearful of Wemby.

SPEAKER_05 31:04

Yeah. Yeah. There were times that they weren't fearful. I mean there were certain players that weren't fearful.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

There are a lot of Wolves fans who are cheering for the Spurs now. I am. And I wouldn't go s I wouldn't say I'm cheering for them, but I I think they probably will be OKC. And I'm okay with that. Um because I think, yeah, I'm not trying to get us off topic, but like it was that series did something to me where I was just like, well, what what are we gonna do? I guess I'm just gonna only watch women's sports for the next like I just I don't really I feel really hopeless of what anyone's supposed to do, and I cannot believe they had the first round pick just a couple of years ago, and now they're gonna be NBA champions for like 10 years.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

Sorry, I mean a little dramatic. I'm still I'm still feeling a little hurt.

SPEAKER_05 31:48

Um there there's a lot of teams like that.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

So just they didn't have to play him in the second round.

SPEAKER_05 31:53

Just last year we were saying that about okay see, and here comes the Spurs. You know what I mean? Like it it changes quickly, things things happen, injuries happen.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

I'm Oh my gosh, have you seen some of the memes of Chet playing against Wemby?

SPEAKER_05 32:05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

Like the meme, you know, the guy from um um what's that guy from Super Bad who has one name? McFly. No, not McFly. McLovin. They put McLovin's head on Chet, and they're like, this is what Chet looks like guarding Wimby.

SPEAKER_05 32:21

But did you you didn't watch the game last night, but I did.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

I watched the first half.

SPEAKER_05 32:25

I Chet had a block on Wimby in overtime. It went to double overtime last night. It was incredible. I annoyed. Yeah, it was incredible. Chet had a block on him that was basically it was wonderful to see. Um that's great. Especially being a Minnesota boy. Like it's it's great to see. He he's a good defender, even if Wimby's almost impossible to stop. I mean, Wimby has a lot of.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Oh, Littles, Kittle, yeah. Is he from Oklahoma?

SPEAKER_05 32:54

I don't know, but he was in the He went to Iowa for college. I don't know. Um yes, he was in the front row and he was talking to the announcers the whole game.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Yeah, and he was like this way, like he was calling plays and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 33:07

He's considered one of the best tight ends in NFL.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

Oh, tight end, but wasn't he on the running back show that we watched? They like running back. It was called running back.

SPEAKER_05 33:15

It was called wide receiver. That's why.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Oh, wide receiver. My bad.

SPEAKER_05 33:20

Or it was called receivers or something. Receivers. Because Justin Jefferson was on it. Remember?

SPEAKER_02 33:26

Was he on the same season? Okay, got it. Yeah. Is there another one that's called running back? I just made that up.

SPEAKER_03 33:32

It was quarterback.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

Quarterback. Yeah. And then receiver.

SPEAKER_03 33:36

Right.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

Got it, okay. And then starting five with Anthony Edwards.

SPEAKER_05 33:41

Yeah, okay. Exactly. So.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Let's move on to the links, just because we need Okay, so moving forward.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

We're gonna do a little flippity-flop.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

Little flippity-flippity-doo. So we've been primarily focusing on the Timberwolves, like 70-30. Giving maybe 80-20. 80-20, depending on the week. It's gonna flip. Um, so this is our last episode where we're going to spend the majority of our time on the Timberwolves. Moving forward, we will spend the majority of our time on the links and then just give some updates with the wolves.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

I have one question. I have I have before we go into links, I have one thing that I wanted to bring up, and I'm sorry I didn't put it up. So with everyone saying, you know, we don't have a chance against the Spurs. So blow it up.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

Oh, I'm not saying that. I know you're not, but there are a lot of people that I want to move to the Eastern Conference, that's how I want to avoid them.

SPEAKER_05 34:35

But here's my question because there are there's this idea that like including Ant?

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Is that what people are saying?

SPEAKER_05 34:41

I just hear me out. Okay. So you can take the OKC approach where you remember when they drafted Durant, Westbrook, Harden, and they ended up trading all of them and getting picks and picks and picks and picks and picks and now they have the current roster. And now they have the current roster. So my question is would you rather continue being a second round to Western Conference team with no chance, in my in I my hypothetical, no chance of winning a championship.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

Jeez.

SPEAKER_05 35:21

Or resetting the thing, and when we're in our 60s, we win a championship.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

Jeez, that's so long from now. No, not that. C is trust in Tim Conley, who's gonna get rid of anyone over the age of 26, which means we're gonna keep Ant, we're gonna keep Jaden, and we're gonna keep Nas, and everyone else can go fly away, including Rudy, and he'll come up with a plan with any.

SPEAKER_05 35:48

This question goes comes from Justin Tucker.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

Justin! 60 is so I'm not gonna wait that long.

SPEAKER_05 35:55

The reason why the 60 came up is because it's taken almost 20 years for OKC to compile this and continue. Good question, Justin Tucker. So, what would you prefer? Because I have my I can share mine, but I want to hear your screen.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

I already gave mine.

SPEAKER_05 36:11

I agree with you. I would much rather have a winning team that goes into the playoffs, that plays really hard, and has a better outcome than this particular last series in terms of competitiveness because of health, than sitting back and watching trash for 15 to 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Um I would rather make tweaks. You it OKC was so lucky. There have been so many other teams that Treff tried that and it has not worked out. So OKC was very lucky, and they're a very adorable, fun-loving team, and we're not gonna play. No, we have Anthony Edwards, we need to strike while the iron's hot. Yeah. And I think we keep our young guys and say goodbye to anyone over the age of 26. This is my new theory.

SPEAKER_05 36:58

You're you're on the Tim Conley bandwidth, which I am happily to be.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

I know. I know. I'm just saying he has something in mind.

SPEAKER_05 37:06

I I I agree. And that's what I was getting to before with trust, yeah. In Tim Conley Trust.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:12

You know, because I don't know all of the ins and I don't know who's gettable for what. I didn't think that Rudy Gobert was good gettable for D'Angelo Russell.

SPEAKER_02 37:19

Well, a lot more than that. It's like half of our team.

SPEAKER_05 37:23

No, but it was a whole bunch of scrubs, and D'Ang D'Angelo was like the the pick, and D'Angelo's not even in the league anymore.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

Yeah, he is. He got traded to Washington.

SPEAKER_05 37:33

He is not playing at all. I know.

SPEAKER_02 37:36

Like he's the who's the center we loved so much, and now I can't even think of his name.

SPEAKER_05 37:40

See, that's what I'm saying. Vanderbilt.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

Vanderbilt.

SPEAKER_05 37:43

He's not a center. He's a center? No.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

He's a center.

SPEAKER_05 37:46

Oh, you should look it up.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

He's not a he's a power forward.

SPEAKER_05 37:49

He's he's a power forward on his best day.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

No, he is a center. No, no, he's not, dear.

SPEAKER_05 37:54

You can look it up while I while I say this. So it's yes, um Conley, we have to just trust in him and figure out, you know. Oh, he's a forward. Dang it.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

Where wait, oh no, wait. Oh no, I looked up Fanderbolt football. Hold on.

SPEAKER_05 38:11

And it just said forward on the I don't know either.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 38:17

No, anyway, my point is Conley can make moves that I don't even know exist. Like, and and it just comes out of nowhere. So hopefully there'll be something like that.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

Um, I can pretend that yeah, he's a power forward, but he's 6'8.

SPEAKER_05 38:34

Yeah, that's a power forward. That's like Jaden's taller than him at a time. So my point is he made that happen, and yes, we gave up a lot of picks. We are who we are now because of that trade. And you know, it's it's it was a great trade. I hate when people try to revisit that and say, It was a great trade. Come on. We we we've made you know the postseason last four years, and we hadn't made back-to-back, you know, postseasons.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

Oh, you're you're including the play-in.

SPEAKER_05 39:03

I mean, just including the last four years have been successful since the trade.

SPEAKER_02 39:06

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:07

So, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

All right, okay, over to the links. I wanted to throw that out to you. I just want to say that the Nugget series was so fun, but this one was not fun. You did not have fun during the Nugget season. Oh, that's right. It was just fun when we went. I had so much fun. We didn't get to talk. Did we talk about the game six?

SPEAKER_05 39:22

You hated. We did talk about the game six last year. Because we were there.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Yeah, that was so fun.

SPEAKER_05 39:27

Yeah. Of course, of course. Um, I'm glad we didn't spend money on tickets this time.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

Oh my gosh. I don't really want to be there. Oh.

SPEAKER_05 39:35

Alright, so links, links, links. So what's our record now, dear? Because it's seasonal.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

We're two and two, but we should talk about oh, we have did we get to talk much about how like there's a lot of unease going into the start of the season.

SPEAKER_05 39:48

Um we talked about it a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

We did talk about it a little bit, and I we've been underdogs. I want to say we yeah, every game so far, they're like Lynx predicted to lose. Yeah. Which is a very foreign feeling for us as Lynx fans because we are the the one dynasty that Minnesota has is the Minnesota Lynx. So to be like the underdogs feels really strange. Um, but we're two and two is not great, but our two wins are against two very good teams. Um and Cheryl's been coaching her butt off, doing really well, and Olivia's Olivia Miles, our new rookie, yes, has been playing so well.

SPEAKER_05 40:24

She's so much fun to watch.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

She is so fun to watch.

SPEAKER_05 40:27

So, to our listeners that are NBA fans and don't watch the NBA as much, you guys, sorry. Um, you guys have to get on board. First of all, the I mean there are seats available, get on the bandwagon, it's a lot of fun. But you will watch Olivia Miles and think of all of the really fun point guards. And if you want to bring it home, you know, to Minnesota Sports, like when Ricky Rubio was a rookie, it was it's that kind of vibe where where you're like the passes are like you don't know what she's gonna do and what when. Like it's kind of like Jason Williams' white chocolate from Sacramento, where where you like you just you don't expect the passes that she can make and the spin she puts on the ball, and it's just it's fun to watch. I'm really excited.

SPEAKER_02 41:14

Nafisa was interviewed about her, and Nafisa said, Um, you can't teach it. It what she has is a gift. She knows who she should pass it to before the she even knows that the player's gonna be there. It's just amazing to watch. Um, and she's scored, I think. Oh, I don't have the stat in front of me, but her the first game I want to say was like she hit some record like more than any rook rookie. Yeah, like she had like 21 points, and um, yeah, she's just done amazing. And because she's now our point guard, Courtney is no longer a point guard. You know, Cheryl moved her from the two to the one, and Courtney was pretty um verbal about not liking that role, and like I just want to be where I belong. Um, because she that midy mid-ran range jump shot is her sweet spot, um, and she's been able to do that more with Olivia's help.

SPEAKER_05 42:10

Yes, and and Kayla is she is going crazy. I mean, it is it's interesting to see these players like Courtney and Kayla are two bets that are not injured, right? Play without fee.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 42:25

Because as we had mentioned in previous episodes, um fee's injured until early June. Early June now, so it's only a couple weeks out. But um they they've taken on a leadership role and almost like teaching these young players, because there's a lot of young players. We have a lot of young players and players from overseas, and just showing them what it's like to be a pro and the intensity that they're playing at is I I I know that they were good players before, but I've been really surprised.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

Me too. They're so much more physical and they're moving around so much more. You know, Kayla was often uh, you know, just kind of stand in the corner and shoot threes, and now I'm like, look at her. I mean, I just feel like she's working hard for her new contract.

SPEAKER_05 43:12

Um which is refreshing by the way, because so many times in professional sports you get paid, and then it's like coasting for a year because it's like I just got paid. But no, she's putting it in, she's put in the work, and it is it it's it's quite impressive. And Courtney's like figuring out not being the point guard, the last game that we watched, it was it was kind of interesting because she all of a sudden became the point guard for like a quarter and then work as well.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

Figure it out, we're like, so obviously Cheryl is having her bring up the ball because it was a very deliberate, deliberate change. We're like, why is why isn't Olivia bringing up the ball? And I thought, oh, maybe it's just one time. Then I'm like, no, Courtney's doing it again, Courtney's doing it again. And we had several back to back to back to back plays that weren't successful, and I'm like, what are we doing here? Yeah, so and I Cheryl has got on the record of saying she wants Courtney to sometimes play the one.

SPEAKER_05 44:04

And I get that. I would like I would like it if I would like to see when Olivia's on the court she should be she should have the ball in her hands.

SPEAKER_02 44:11

I know. Not that I don't trust, you know. You know, Tim Connolly we trust, we trust in Cheryl even more.

SPEAKER_05 44:19

Way more.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

Um she has so much proven success.

SPEAKER_05 44:22

She has all the receipts.

SPEAKER_02 44:23

I just wonder if some if she's not fully trusting Olivia at times. She's like, let's, you know.

SPEAKER_05 44:29

That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

That's fair. But um, yeah, because Olivia's had moments of um where she's shown her immaturity. She's young. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:37

Um who else on the team? Like is young? No, that that you want to talk about because Natasha Howard has it's Natasha.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

Natasha Howard's so good. She's so good. She's pretty much our only center. Well, I shouldn't say that.

SPEAKER_05 44:48

She's not even a center, she's like a power forward. She's our biggest person.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

She's our rim protector, and she's the one we can pass it inside for a quick layup. Um, I'm really glad she's on the team. She was a Lynx uh previously and now she's back. Um Chikova, we were so excited about it. She was showing so much promise when she gets an ACL tear. Out for the season. She's out for the season. So heartbreaking. Yeah, I don't know for sure if she's out for the season. But she's gotta be because the WNBA season is so much shorter. Okay, that's confirmed.

SPEAKER_05 45:18

Um depth at the at the bigs.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

Yeah, because we didn't draft a big. We were a little confused about that, and but now I'm like, oh, Olivia's well worth it.

SPEAKER_05 45:32

Yeah, she's gonna be rookie of the year without even like I mean, it's like she can just coast it if she's played so well.

SPEAKER_02 45:37

Um famous. Other players, I can't think of there's a player who looks like um a player on our niece Reagan's team. So we just call Hof. We just call Hoff Lydia.

SPEAKER_05 45:49

Oh. Sorry, can we say that? Just putting her on blast, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 45:53

Well, it's okay. I don't know Lydia's last name. There's a lot of players that are across the state of Minnesota. But she looks like Lydia.

SPEAKER_03 46:00

Yeah, and Lydia is adorable and she's a great player.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

She's so cute. She wears her hair down in the back, just like that. A little side part. Yeah. Yeah, she's just grown up Lydia.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

Um my goodness.

SPEAKER_02 46:13

It's fine. We talk about our kids' friends. Why is it different? I don't know. I don't know. Do you think that Lydia's parents are listening? No. It's fine.

SPEAKER_05 46:23

Um no, and then and Marissa and I are just we're we're trying to get used to everybody. Like it's coming up with nicknames and Kosu? Kuso. Kuso. Oh no. Kosu.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

Koso. She's great. She's great. She's play well, let's put it, she's not great, but she's like playing well. Yeah. And and then who else we got?

SPEAKER_02 46:45

We have um Mia. Nia Coffee Coffee. She had a game winner.

SPEAKER_05 46:50

And she's our our big right now, along with Natasha.

SPEAKER_02 46:53

She's not that big.

SPEAKER_05 46:54

But she's playing power forward slash center.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

She's not that big.

SPEAKER_05 46:58

I know. I know. We have nobody big.

SPEAKER_02 47:00

And Nia is from Minnesota. Her brother Amir. She went to they both went to Hopkins and the U. I don't know if they went to the U.

SPEAKER_05 47:10

I know that Amir Hopkins.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

I don't know. Did Nia? I think we should probably know that.

SPEAKER_05 47:14

Oh, we should probably know that.

SPEAKER_02 47:15

Well, I'm just excited that she's here and that she's doing well.

SPEAKER_05 47:17

Exactly. Um, overall, I'm interested to see what happens when Fee is back.

SPEAKER_04 47:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:26

I still can't explain the contract scenario with her and why she only signed a one-year deal.

SPEAKER_02 47:32

And it's um, what's the word? Unrestricted. She'll be an unrestricted free agent.

SPEAKER_05 47:37

So that's painful.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

She was she went to um Northwestern.

SPEAKER_05 47:42

Oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_02 47:43

She was the starting power forward.

SPEAKER_05 47:45

Well, see, I told you.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

Yeah, you got it. Yeah, I'm I'm curious about Nafisa's return as well.

SPEAKER_05 47:51

We gotta lock that down. I'm just saying she's she's that great of a player. I we we need to figure that out.

SPEAKER_02 47:58

Absolutely. I feel like she's really bought in. Like she lo I feel like She's there all the time.

SPEAKER_05 48:03

Her and Dorka are like, it will be great to have those two back. For those who don't know, um, I don't what's Dorka's last name? I don't know. She it starts with the We're gonna get better.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Trust us, we're gonna get better.

SPEAKER_05 48:14

We apologize.

SPEAKER_02 48:15

We're we're just coming off of the end of the wolf season, but we've watched every Lynx game. We're going to keep watching, we'll get these names down. We will pronounce every one of their Russian last names perfectly.

SPEAKER_05 48:26

Oh my goodness. That's tough. But Dorka's keep going off. Dorga, as we mentioned last episode, she won like she was the MVP of the European League just this past season. Had an had an injury with her leg or foot, and um is supposed to be back this season. And I think with those two, all of a sudden like things might look a little different.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

But they're not looking bad right now. Exactly. Yeah. So after we played the wings and we beat them, and the wings were up at various points. It was a little bit like Owen had a hard time watching because um the wings have Jess Shepard, who used to play for the Lynx, and they have Alana uh Smith, who was defensive player of the year with um Asia Wilson and used to play for the Lynx, and they also have Paige Beckers, who's from Minnesota, so it's like hard to watch all these, like how we feel as Minnesotans, you know, and then they're like supposed to be really, really good. I mean, it's Paige Beckers, and then we ended up winning, and their coach, the Wings's coach, said um that there was a selfishness problem in the locker room. Which was I was like, it was a little early to say that. Sheesh, it felt a little dramatic and yeah, exactly. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 49:46

Well I'm in other words, I'm excited about the new season that's upon us. And I'm excited to do podcasts about not necessarily the best team in the league, but it's an up-and-coming team that we can get be proud of and excited for.

SPEAKER_02 50:00

Yeah, if we win, we'll be like, yes, we weren't supposed to be good.

SPEAKER_05 50:03

Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 50:04

And here are the next three games for all of you who are jumping on the bandwagon. Please jump on. It's this Thursday, it's the first ever game against the Lynx and the Toronto Tempo because they're a new ex expansion team. That's at 7 p.m. on Victoria Plus, no, Victory Plus.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Victory.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

And it's a great easy streaming service. So just go ahead and add that. It's free. All of the Lynx games are on there.

SPEAKER_05 50:28

It's so much easier than trying to figure out Victory Plus. It's free. You can add it.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

And you don't have to go, is it on Prime? Is it on Peacock? Is it on you know?

SPEAKER_05 50:36

No, it's on every Victor uh every every game.

SPEAKER_02 50:38

And then the next two games are the teams we've just played, which is a little frustrating because we lost to both of them, but I we're not gonna lose again. We're gonna play Saturday at Chicago Sky at 12 p.m. That game's on CBS, and Wednesday we play the Dream again. Um, that game is on Victory Plus and USA. So um hopefully we can squeak out some wins after losing to those two teams and get a win against Toronto.

SPEAKER_04 51:02

Oh I'm excited.

SPEAKER_02 51:03

All right, thanks everyone. Thanks.