The Old Umma Club
Bare-it-all conversations between two "old" Korean-American women who became mothers in their 30s and left their full-time careers to become stay-at-home moms in their “geriatric years." Join their talks about faith, motherhood, marriage, community, and everything in between.
The Old Umma Club
We're Back! Season 2 Prelude
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We are BACK, Ummas!
Season 1 was all about establishing our foundations and core pillars, introducing the world to what The Old Umma Club is all about. Season 2 is where we dive into the thick of it all.
Listen to the prelude to hear our life updates and what this upcoming season holds!
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"Life of Riley" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Hey Amaz, welcome to the Old Alma Club. I'm Joyce. And I'm Sophia. We are two friends in Los Angeles who had so many great coffee chats about our love for Jesus being Korean in biracial marriages and having kids mid-career, mid thirties. So we decided to turn it into a podcast. So grab a cup of coffee and join our conversations and by aching backs, motherhood, marriage, Jesus, and everything in between. You ready? Hannah? Two. Set. Set. Let's go. Let's go.
JoyceWe're back.
Sophiaback.
JoyceWelcome back.
SophiaOMA.
JoyceWelcome back.
Sophiaor if you're new here. Hello. This is season two of the old Oma Club with Joyce and Sophia.
JoyceWe are super stoked about this upcoming season. Um, but before we talk about this incoming season, Sophia and I wanted to give you guys an update on just how we have been because it's been a minute. the last time we recorded was in October. Uh,
SophiaYou were, very pregnant and we actually recorded it at, um,
JoyceIn my hospital. Yeah.
SophiaYeah.
JoyceOn my hospital bed.
SophiaI brought K Cook and Top Cook for you.
JoyceI know. And I was like,
Sophiawhere we did it. So it's been a while. It is 2026
Joycemm-hmm.
SophiaUm, currently March, 2026. and so a lot has happened.
JoyceYes.
SophiaJoyce, tell me what has changed
JoyceWell now I have a third child, so that's a pretty big change. Uh,
SophiaCongratulations.
JoyceThank you. And even that was really big change. 'cause it's like, not only was it just a big change in adding a third child, but it was also hard because Owen, uh, that's the name of my third kiddo. He had to stay in the NICU for about a month. So that was a really big dynamic shift 'cause we didn't really get to step into the season that we were expecting. Um, but then now that he's been home since December and we've all been really settling into the groove of what it means to be a family of five. So that's been good. Uh, Cian, my oldest is now four and a half, and we are getting him ready to transition to tk. He's currently in preschool right now. And then Taigh is two and a half, and I've been kind of keeping him at home for as long as possible. I know he's ready and he needs just a little more socialization. And I could tell he desires it, but I'm just like, oh, I just want it.
SophiaHe's your velcro baby.
JoyceKnow. And I realized, yeah. And I just like realized like it's. The reason why he is been so sweet is 'cause it's almost like a, I was just telling Tyler, I was like, it just feels like a redemption experience of like being able to re-experience having like my oldest at home. So I think that's why I'm also like, cherishing it a little bit more. Um, but also my oldest, he, the homie needed to go. He was like, he was, he's so extroverted. I was like, there's not enough energy in my life to be able to provide the extroverted that you need. Um.
SophiaYeah, he, he loves
JoyceYeah. He loves school and I think Taigh is gonna be great. And so we're getting him ready to transition to potty training soon. And, uh,
Sophiathe
JoyceI know, and then also preschool,
Sophiapositive about party training,
Joyceexcept not having to pay for diapers, like that much diapers. You still have to pay for night diapers, but I, I would love to not have to pay. Yeah. I would love to not have to pay for daytime diapers anymore. uh, and then we have Owen who's just chilling at home and he's, uh, about to hit his four month mark. So it's kind of crazy. We just celebrated his baekil.
Sophiahis Pega?
JoyceYeah,
SophiaAmazing.
JoyceI know. So that's kind of been it. I mean, and of course like our marriage has gone through its own evolution now that we have an added kid and a different dynamic. Um, but I think. Because it was the third roundabout, like it would, we were just a little bit more prepared and being able to understand and recognize the warning signs. So we're able to kind of just step in a little faster. And now was like, it's always that at month three, four is like really one, we've always hit a big collision in our marriage. Uh, nothing bad, it's just, I think all the changes tend to implode around that time. And so. We, we have the gift of being able to be retrospective and re retro, reflective and, uh,
Sophiareflective.
Joycereflective girl. It's a new term,
Sophiareflective is good,
Joyceretro reflective. We're gonna make it a term, but uh,
Sophiabut Exactly makes no sense
Joyceit does in my mind. Okay. It is retro reflective,
Sophialooking
Joycevintage reflective. You know what I mean? So yeah, we're, we're doing that, uh, we had that in our back pocket. And the benefit of that and being able to say like, oh, we're hitting that spot. We're grinding it out. Okay, we gotta, let's nip this in the bud and talk it out. So it's kind of what we did now, so.
SophiaYour pros at marital conflict resolution, though
JoyceI wouldn't say pros, but it did help to be able to let look back three times and then be able to recognize a pattern. And I was like, Ooh. Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, and so I think being able to have that it was better. Like, I didn't come with it with as much resentment 'cause I just realized this is just what it is. You know what I mean? So I was kind of able to like. Notes, storylines and all that stuff. So, we'll, we'll go into it more with the rest of our series when we go into it. But, um, but yeah, so that's just been kind of the changes that's been happening here. and I think me personally too, changes, I think is obviously becoming a mother of three kids, but, um, trying to figure out what it means now with. I think my body and work and kind of future stuff. Still trying to convince my husband with a vasectomy. Just I
SophiaJust get it done, Tyler.
Joycejust. I'm just Lord. Uh, if any of you would like to pray, by the time this launches, if I still don't have a husband with a vasectomy, I'll, I'll put it in the show notes and I just need prayer requests.
SophiaWe can send David and Tyler to go
JoyceYeah, they could go hand in hand like, you know, best buddies. We could drop 'em off at the same time, pick 'em up at the same time.
Sophiaon with, with all the stuff that women have to go through. Come on, man. it's just a snip snip.
JoyceIt's also laparoscopic. Like it's literally just like beep beep.
Sophiaand it's a quick
JoyceYeah. Two little stitches
Sophialike postpartum where you've been stitched up and just like, basically it's just torn open. Come on.
Joycein more ways than one.
Sophiafrom
JoyceYeah,
Sophianone.
JoyceI know. So, uh, if, if a heath stole has not got the snip snip, by the time this launches, we're gonna put in the show notes, I need a prayer request.
SophiaUrgent prayer request. Please go on your hands and knees for fasting.
JoyceUh, so yes. So that's what's been going on with me. What about you, Sophia? Tell me, tell us, tell the Amma Club what's been going on.
SophiaOkay, well mine is not as dramatic as your choice, but, um, so my first tov, his name is to, he's currently three and a half. Almost four. He turns four in May, my second Woori is now a year and a half. Um, so very, uh, wild stages right now. my days consists of just basically chasing them around with a vacuum and a rag and Woori's at a stage where she's climbing on kitchen counters, kitchen islands, dining tables, climbing everywhere. And then her. Her hobby is to open the drawers in the kitchen and dump everything out one by one with the cutest smile on her face. So you really can't get mad at her.
JoyceI know the smile of happiness. You're like, oh.
SophiaI know she's so delighted. Yeah. So Tov is currently in preschool twice a week and Woori's home with me, um, 24 7. So she's also my Velcro baby, except she's. She's actually quite an independent one. she does her own thing and kind of goes off by herself. So honestly, on the two days of week where I'm just home with her is kind of almost my reset day. That's when I get, try to get a lot of stuff
JoyceMm-hmm.
Sophialike recording this podcast, doing research. Um. You know, cooking things, baking things, things like that. Yeah. also, I, I seem to be always about a year behind you, Joyce,
Joycetrue.
Sophiabut I'm also pregnant with my third
JoyceWoo hoo.
Sophiaand
Joycethink it's like almost six months. Every time It's like six months apart. Pretty much. It's almost pretty much six months apart, or a year, six months to a year, depending.
Sophiasix months to a
JoyceYeah.
SophiaUm, so yeah, I, I'm just like holding onto coattails. so the baby is due in September and I am just about to hit second trimester, so it's pretty early
JoyceMm-hmm.
Sophiawe don't know the gender yet, but, um,
JoyceWhat do you have a feeling? Do you have a feeling
SophiaAbsolutely none. I don't have any kind of those kind of maternal woowoo instincts.
Joycehaven't had a dream yet? No Dreams? No.
SophiaI thought Tov was a girl. He was a boy. I thought Woori was a boy. She was a girl. So I don't trust my guts.
JoyceWell, then we could also just say, have you make a guess, and then maybe assume it's gonna be the opposite. You've been consistent in being opposite, so
SophiaUh, well, I think it's a girl and we, we, we should see there, there'll be updates.
Joycefeel like it's a girl. David and I, we talked about it. He was like, I was like, I feel like it's a girl. He is like, yeah, probably. So I feel like, yeah.
Sophiasaid that. Huh?
JoyceSo, I mean,
Sophiajust, a hope just for things that are a little calmer though you can, you can it. I don't know. That's such a gender stereotype. You can never know. You never know.
Joycethere's just a different level. The noises are different, but also girls can be just as feral as boys, so.
SophiaYeah. I mean, yeah, you should see what is tantrums. quite, quite a spectacle. she also loves to drink puddles that she just finds outside in the backyard. I, I, I literally, I just, I just give up. I can't have my eyes on you 24 7 kid. Like I can't. So yeah, the things that have gone into her mouth, but then she's so healthy, she rarely gets sick. So you know what? There's Something about that immunity thing. Building immunity,
JoyceYeah. I mean, yeah, and both of our, both of our first kids were born during COVID, so it was like so much more. They didn't really have a chance to like really build any level of immune system until they were like one and a half.
SophiaYeah, by then, yeah. And then queuing all
JoyceMm-hmm.
Sophiaeverything. Hema, food disease, everything. Right? Stomach flu.
JoyceYeah.
Sophiaspeaking of all illnesses and pregnancies and newborns and, um, resolving marital conflicts and sending kids to preschool and all of that, theme for season two is the thick of it. are very much in the thick of it, and meaning like having multiple young kids under five. Where there's not that much autonomy or independence yet. there's a lot of noise. There's a lot of overstimulation. There's just, Hmm. I, I don't think I need to really describe it to
JoyceEverybody gets it. You say they're under five. Everyone's like, we know we get it.
SophiaUnless they're much older, then they forget.
JoyceTrue. Unless, I don't know. I think they forget or they choose to forget.
SophiaOh, it's like trauma,
JoyceYeah.
SophiaJust block it. Mental block. I just know it was hard, but I don't feel, I don't remember the details because I was in the thick of
JoyceMm-hmm.
SophiaI was living in a brain fog. I think that that's what my mother would say, that she was just in this fog.
JoyceI feel like my mom live remembers it with clarity and likes to remind me, uh,
SophiaShe probably took notes for later on
JoyceHer as,
Sophiato remind you
Joyceas much as she claims her memory is not good. Her ability to do like memory recall, I was like, wow, it's quite sharp
Sophiafor, for the sake of
Joycefor this. I mean, it's quite Korean, right? Just anything to just laden on the guilt measure. Yeah. So our season is gonna be, it's about the thick, it's, the theme is the thick of it. So we have different episode, um, lined up. So it's the same format as last time where we're gonna just do a season. I think we have about six to 12, somewhere ranging eight to
Sophiathat's,
Joyceeight.
Sophiaa wide
JoyceEight to 10.
Sophiaeight to 10. Eight to 10 maybe. uh, an episode gets long, then we'll cut it into part one, part
JoyceYeah.
Sophiaum. To be decided.
JoyceYeah, but it's gonna be just like last time where we'll, we'll launch a on a weekly or biweekly basis and we're have just a certain number of, um, episodes out, uh, ranging from the topics of. Transitions. Right. Especially now that I have a third kid transitioning from two to three or one to two. And Sophia's upcoming transition. Yeah. Just covering all of that. Talking about what does self-care even mean that's a whole thing for us. I think the whole, the term of self-care is a whole thing.
SophiaUm, our children.
JoyceYeah.
Sophiayeah. Discipline our kids. What is our typical daily and weekly routine? I'm sure we are gonna talk about marital issues as well as it pops up.
Joyceyeah, so I'm really excited about the season 'cause I think it's just topics that we've really been wanting to talk about, but we wanted to spend Season one to just ultimately build the foundation of what the old Ahma Club is, who we are, and for. Us and you guys to get to know each other. Um, and so now I think this is the fun where our fun gets to kick off, where we get to really talk about topics that we've want been wanting to talk about, really wanting to talk about. Yeah.
SophiaYeah, it'll be a fun episode and I mean, we are living in
JoyceMm-hmm.
Sophiaso that's a part of me too that is a little nervous about, of how, um, consistent we will be in being able to meet up and record this episode. things always pop up, right. Um, so we shall see it. should do our best.
Joycewhy the season is called being in the thick of it. And then by the time we get to season three, I think Sophia will be giving birth. So, or season four, season three or four is probably,
Sophiathen. Yeah,
Joycedefinitely finish before then. I think,
Sophiagoal.
Joycebut also, we would love to continue getting feedback and like, just hearing from you guys, it's been so sweet and awesome hearing from just our friends and family and community members. a funny one that a friend of mine, a girlfriend of mine sent when we were talking. Because a couple of our episodes, a handful of our episodes from season one had quite technical difficulties. my friend, she texted me and she's like, um, if you mean by bad sound quality, you mean like, it just sounds like two girls talking to bathroom. She's like, that's perfect, because sometimes I hide in the bathroom from my kids, and that's exactly what I needed was like, she was like, it just sounded like as if when I was hiding in the bathroom and I'm just talking with friends in the bathroom. So I was like, all right, well, there you go then. Perfect.
Sophiavibe. Yeah, that's exactly what we are going for. Where you know, and actually both, I think Joyce and I have personal experience this where I know I have, where I actually hid in the bathroom
JoyceOh, yeah,
Sophiayou a voice message about, 'cause I was about to lose
Joyceyeah, yeah. With a closet.
Sophiathat is totally the vibe we're going for. We are not trying to be. experts on anything. We're still
JoyceMm-hmm.
Sophiawe are just surviving and we just wanna reach out with empathy saying we are in it
JoyceMm-hmm. Yeah. That's just really what it is, is our ultimate goal has been just to be a podcast that you can turn on and have it running while you're just kind of doing things and it just feels like chatter, like you're just listening to two friends talk. And that's really what we want.
Sophiathat's one of the, one of the feedback we got too, um, from a missionary in Peru actually. Um, she was saying that, um, she loves listening to her podcast while she's doing chores around the house, like washing the dishes, and she's just listening to us talking. It's just like having girlfriends over spilling tea.
JoyceAlways spilling the tea.
Sophiaalso gotten an email from someone who doesn't have children, and she listened to a podcast, so that was amazing.
Joycethat's right.
SophiaYeah,
JoyceThat was so cool. Got an email.
SophiaI hope it does not scare her away from parenthood.
JoyceHmm. No, she's gonna be more prepared.
SophiaLet's hope. Let's hope for that.
JoyceA realistic, non curated expectations of parenthood.
SophiaYeah. my hope is also that when listening to this know that we know that parenthood is hard, but that also it is so beautiful for is
JoyceMm-hmm.
SophiaYeah. That there is so much beauty and we truly do enjoy being mothers.
JoyceYes, we really do. Even as for as much as we complain about it,
SophiaYeah. We love complaining about it and you know, it gives us a lot of good content to complain about, which makes us
Joyceyes.
SophiaYeah.
JoyceAll right, amaz. Well, welcome to the start of season two. We're so glad that you're joining us again, and that we hope you continue to spread the word about the Amah Club and increase the members, uh, so that they could come join and listen to us spill the tea about our lives. Um,
Sophialots of tea to
Joyceyeah, all of it, a whole teapot. All right. We'll see you next time. Okay. Bye
SophiaBye.
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