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Between the Sheets: Are There Any Boundaries?

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Let’s talk about it… because everybody has an opinion when it comes to relationships, intimacy, and what should or shouldn’t be off limits.
Are there real boundaries between love, lust, loyalty, and respect?
Where should the line be drawn?


And are people really honest about what they expect behind closed doors?
This week, we’re getting all the way into the uncomfortable conversations people usually avoid.


From emotional boundaries to physical expectations, situationships, commitment, double standards, and the truth about what happens between the sheets… nothing is off limits.


💬 Are boundaries necessary… or are they just rules people break anyway?
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SPEAKER_06

Well, welcome back, Truth Nation. Welcome back, everybody. It's been a long, long week, but we have a great show for you tonight. And if this is your first time joining us, please like and subscribe to our page and hit the notification button. And welcome to the truth ain't in us. I'm Tanya Wilder. I'm your host. And tonight's show is we're going to be talking about what really goes on basically behind closed doors. Between the sheets, are there any boundaries anymore? Or are we just evolving or are we losing respect when it comes to the bedroom? That's our topic for tonight. But before we get into tonight's episode, I'm gonna go ahead and bring out my guest host, Don of all dons. Don D, welcome to the show. What's going on? Ready to go? We can't even see you.

SPEAKER_02

Why you can't see me? Every week is something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, look, look, look, but I'm on time. I'm here. I'm ready to rock, rock and roll. I was on vacation last week. Vacation's over. It's all work, no play, work a hot.

SPEAKER_06

I need you to pump your brakes a minute because we cannot see you. How can you not see me? I don't know why. I don't know what you did when we were backstage. I didn't do anything. But listen, I'll figure it out. I'm gonna get back. Trust me. You can hear me though, right? We can hear you. So we're gonna take you. Maybe you need to go go out and come back in. So while he's doing that, and we get Donji back on stage. Um this week, guys, it's been a it's been a uh kind of crazy week. We're gonna talk about all that's going on in on social media in the news. The biggest news I think it's been going on now for a week straight, with Megan the Stallion. And we're gonna talk about that a little bit later. But before we even jump into that, um let's just talk about how our week's been going. Um, I was supposed to actually have uh laser surgery on my eyes this week, but because I was sick on what was it, Monday? And I think I got sick from from the game. Actually, we went to the Atlanta Hawks in um New York game. And um, what's what it's saying? Okay, so um, I don't know what's going on with Don D's camera, but uh we he cannot be seen right now. So um just bring him back in whenever it comes on, guys. That's all we can do there. Okay, it was just in, but then it went out. So yeah, okay, so uh I know it's that time of the year, it's that season um with playoffs for basketball, and even though I do, you know, the Hawks is my team, I am definitely rooting for New York Knicks because my husband was born and raised in New York. He is a New Yorker Um through it all man. Yeah, he is a uh New Yorker through it all, and I'm gonna ride with him until the wheels fall off. Okay, so I am supporting the Knicks. It was a great game, great game last night. It was a great game um last week when they played, and I had an opportunity to meet Kevin Bacon. I ran into Kevin Bacon, um, and I hope I'm pronouncing his name correctly. Um, you know, Foot Loose, the Foot Loose Man, and also Tremors. That that was actually one of my favorite shows because my youngest daughter and I um we watched that show over and over and over again, Trimers. So I enjoyed that. Um I even watched it again this weekend, this past weekend. But anyway, um we're gonna keep the show going, guys. And I'm probably gonna be bringing on our guests just a little bit early now. Um, just so we can get the get the show um started. So without further ado, because I have no idea where Don D is and what is going on with his camera. Um so anyway, um, I'm gonna wind up bringing on our guests tonight. We have Izzy and Il. And I want to go ahead and bring them on. Hey, Tanya. Hey guys, normally I would not bring you on this early, but we're having some difficulties here uh with Don D. So welcome to the Truth Ain't in us. And can you guys uh tell everybody just a little bit about yourselves, starting with you, uh Izzy?

SPEAKER_08

Um, my name is Izzy. Um, I work in the filming industry, a sound mixer. Um, I'm from Indianapolis, Indiana. I've been living in Indiana for like nine years now, and I love you here.

SPEAKER_06

You love it here.

SPEAKER_08

Love you here, yeah. Okay, okay. I'm a mom. I'm a mom of a teenager. Okay, and how old is your teenager? He's 17. He's a junior, he'll be senior next year.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, so he's on his way out the door. You're about to be an empty master. Yes, almost. He's going to college, right?

SPEAKER_08

Yes, he is. Well, firefighter, he's firefighter.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, well, thank him. Um I'm thanking him for his service already. Yeah, great and honest job, absolutely. And ill, can you tell us about yourself as well?

SPEAKER_05

Hey, uh, I go by ill, it's like calling like my brand name Il HD. My real name is Greg. I'm originally from Indianapolis, Indiana, and I'm just an overall creative.

SPEAKER_06

So you guys moved here together. Were y'all dating before you actually moved here to Atlanta? Uh-uh. No, okay, okay. But we're gonna get into I believe so. Yeah, okay. And are you guys have you now become um Falcon fans all around with the Hawks?

SPEAKER_05

And I go to the games. I'm an Atlanta fan, like just in general, like Atlanta's a lot, I support, but you're not.

SPEAKER_06

So who are you guys rooting for right now in the uh NBA? In the playoffs, it's play in the playoffs, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I ain't even really been watching it.

SPEAKER_06

We I don't watch it.

SPEAKER_05

I watch it, but I don't watch it till I know what is it, the Knicks. Oh, Philly. I like Philly. Uh I like Philly. Shout out to Morpher. Uh my people's is his people.

SPEAKER_06

So okay, so y'all not going to the game. Y'all not going, you know, the game is tomorrow night. Y'all not gonna go.

SPEAKER_05

Maybe because I I'll catch an Atlanta game or two. Oh, it's Atlanta and New York too.

SPEAKER_06

The game now, yes, it's gonna be a good game because if New York wins, that's it. They move on to the new, yes.

SPEAKER_05

But you know, we went against New York last year, like we beat them. Sorry.

SPEAKER_06

Well, listen, that was last year.

SPEAKER_05

That's old news. Yeah, yeah, yeah. New York and Atlanta always lit, though.

SPEAKER_06

New York and Atlanta is always a time. Yeah, so it was a great game. We a lot of celebrities was out. Um enjoyed myself, and I'm going to the game tomorrow night. Um, and hopefully uh it's a good game. But yes. So, what have you guys been doing this week? What anything interesting happening in your world before we jump into hot topics?

SPEAKER_08

Um, work, discussion about our social media, please.

SPEAKER_06

And you say you work in the film industry, so explain. I mean, like what it what exactly do you do?

SPEAKER_08

I do a lot of things, tell you the truth. I work in the film industry right now. It's slow, but um, I'm a style mixer, so I work, I work in the sound department behind the scenes, behind the scenes, yes. Okay, and I also work in a medical lab.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, and what type of shows do you work on?

SPEAKER_08

Um, I work on I've worked on quite a few Zeus. Um oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

We're about to talk about that in a minute. Uh that's a part of our hot topics, Jocelyn. Yeah, Puerto Rico Princess, baby. We're about to talk about it.

SPEAKER_08

A lot of dating shows, put a ring on it, ready to love.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, okay. I love ready to love, love ready to love, even though I think people come on there for all the wrong reasons, you know. I I think their intentions are well, but I think at the end of the day, it's so they can get exposure on whatever business they have going on. Oh, yeah. That's that's my personal take on it, and I think people need to really be screened. And if they don't make the cut, they need to be cut off the show if it's not real, if they're just there for all the wrong reasons. I know, but it should be. It's not it should be like it should be, you know. We want to see real, we want to see somebody really falling in love. So that's that's just what it is. We want to see the real deal. So we're gonna keep it moving, and we're gonna jump into hot topics, guys. So, yeah, we're going to hot topics before we start talking about Janisha. Scotty, how many times have you beat up Janisha?

SPEAKER_04

I'm not laughing at her. How many times have you beat up Scotty? How many times have you beat up those baddies?

SPEAKER_03

I'm my old age? You gonna get somebody to kill me and my baby? Bitch, that's what you want to do to me?

SPEAKER_05

I know it's heavy. Shout out to Puerto Rican princess.

SPEAKER_04

How many times have you beat up Scotty? How many times have you beat up those baddies?

SPEAKER_03

At my old age? You gonna get somebody to kill me and my baby? Bitch, that's what you want to do to me? After all the years that I gave you, after all the secrets that I kept, because you make a thread every fucking time. After all the secrets I kept from you and the fucking network for years, I kept all your dirty old secrets from Ashley and all the producers, making girls fight each other, making people make hit people with bottles and make people bleed and cut each other. So we're not gonna walk out.

SPEAKER_06

One morning you wake up and so I'm gonna stop it right there because it's a little lengthy. And I know, Izzy, I know you said you worked for Zeus. So I don't know if these allegations that Jocelyn's are make Jocelyn's actually making is real, but the fun, I mean, what I'm reading online basically, and what I'm hearing um Lemmy say is that it was a con it's a breach of contract that's going on. Because Jocelyn, you know, I guess it's um what do you call a non-compete clause, is what they have going on. And I don't think Jocelyn is understanding what a non-compete clause actually means. Yeah, you know, and I know she dropped out of high school, but I mean, a mine is a terrible thing to waste, but like it's a non-compete, like you can't do that at the end of the day, right? And she's claiming that he's making you know these threats and trying to harm her and her unborn baby, and I love Jocelyn to death, you know. She made love and hip hop Alana what it is today, but I can't stand with Jocelyn on this one, yeah. Because I don't, I mean, it's a non-compete. You know, she wants to go out and start her own streaming network, like, and you want to get paid from another network and compete against them.

SPEAKER_05

It's a big rich town, exactly.

SPEAKER_06

Well, oh, I think Donji just having difficulties. Maybe he needs to get on his phone um and do the show.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, well, we all know Josh Son is gonna do what Josh Son wanna do, you know. Um I do see him doing that. I'm sorry. He gives those vibes to me um from their TV show they have going on. He just gives those vibes, he gives very narcissist vibes. Um, yeah, um, I mean, it is what it is. Josh Lynn's gonna be Joshua. I love Josh Lynn.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I love Joscelyn too.

SPEAKER_08

I love her, I love her personality, I just love who she is, she's different, you know. I just love her, but yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But when it comes to the non-compete, is where I have the problem with.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Because it is a written agreement, it's a contract, it's binded. So at the end of the day, you have to abide by that contract.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, yeah. And she's very smart too. So I don't think she wouldn't have like a lawyer reading a contract, you know. So um, yeah, that's the first thing I would ask anyway during something like that.

SPEAKER_06

Is can I do that? Then why but then if she if why did why isn't her lawyer speaking up?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, that's that's yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Why isn't her lawyer speaking for her in this instance right now? Yeah, so that's what I'm looking at all those things, and even when it comes down to him now, don't get me wrong because I think Lemmy wants to be a star, he wants to be in front of the camera every chance he gets, and he he definitely wants he's in control, you know, and um I just think I don't know too many CEOs who's in the forefront. Do you guys?

SPEAKER_05

Did he did he? Uh yeah, like uh we know I know what's going on at Zeus. Like you got a cast member pregnant. Come on, but not to say, not to say this is the thing I have to say about Jocelyn and the whole the whole thing of the thing. The truth is treason in the house built off of lies. She knew that when she signed that work, so that's just like she she like you know that that she can't go to the lawyer, so that's probably the most she could do, but it was you was with it when you signed it because the truth is treason in a house built out of lies. So with her telling the truth, she went against the you know, against what you signed and what you was with when you was with it, and that's more so the the the what I see out of the whole thing, right? Wrong or indifference, like it was right when you was getting that check, and now you start getting the check, now it's wrong. That ain't that ain't right. No, y'all all in the same, you know, y'all in the same game.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, and I think now if he is doing some of the things that they say he's doing, um, because I uh I had I I watched one girl today. Um, I listened to her, she came on a live and she was stating that she has no skin in the spike because she she's not on the cab array anymore and she doesn't work for Zeus anymore. And she says Jocelyn was just abusive as Lemmy was, I believe it, allegedly, and that you know, at the end of the day, they all knew what they signed up for. Can I cuss?

SPEAKER_05

Yes, man. Lemmy that took Jocelyn hoes from the cabaret once you back. All right, that's not all right, all right.

SPEAKER_06

Listen, this is the truth thing in us. I want you to be yourself, I want you to let your hair down as being took joceline hoes and now she mad now, and that can definitely be true, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because like Jocelyn acts like a pimp at the end of the day, she does, you know what I'm saying, pimp madam, all the same.

SPEAKER_05

So, yeah, I think she gamed him up. She the one that gave him the game, and then he went baddy's way, and that's she the one put the first battery in his back. Then he scooped Natalie because Jocelyn a firecracker, and she she so she over limited, but she teach him the game too. She in his ear, like like game up, and now he he probably he seems smart. I don't know, but make your next movie your best move. And I don't know they business, but that's what it looked like to me. He done took her hoes, and now she didn't she done told everything where the bodies at. I know all your secrets. Why would you do that? Now you they gonna call you if the indictment comes down.

SPEAKER_06

Hello, hello, the crazy, but you know what? You do in the dark, always come to the light, always come to the light. And I say this, and I'm not taking none of this back because I feel like people don't repent anymore. And when you don't repent, your dirt is always gonna come forward. You keep doing something over and over and over again, and you don't have no, you know, you're not repenting, you're not sorry for what you're doing. At the end of the day, it's gonna come to light, and I think that's what's happening with Lemmy at this point. I tell you who's gonna do it twenty though, it's gonna be Scotty, is gonna be the one you can she's gonna be the one that's flush it. Oh, she's gonna put the the nail in the coffin, huh? Flushy, I can see that she's gonna flush it.

SPEAKER_05

Once the full flush comes out, if she sees her way out, because she got she do got the baby involved, and then if he is moving, like Jocelyn says he's moving, that probably won't nobody out here. She said he's moving like the mob. And I don't doubt it. If he's pushing that money, if he didn't push the button once, he kind of doing it on the show. Like if they like let's come on, let's think about the culture. I remember when Zeus Network started, it was Zeus because it was a black man starting a network, like the strength of that is Zeus, right? Yeah, about the context of the content that they putting out now. Ah, they sit there and watch. Hey, what they doing? Why they doing that? But as I'm watching it, I I just think differently, like this is gonna hurt somebody outside of this, like, like it's just too because of what it's built off of. So for it that even to be just like what you pumping and like, yeah, this is the move, it gotta be some kind of like, oh, it just don't sit all the way right. You know it's funny business.

SPEAKER_06

And to me, you're tearing black women down at the end of the day. I mean, some of it is funny, we laugh and you know, carry on, but at the end of the day, it's black women tearing black women down, exploiting, yeah, and all of that, and that's just not good business at all. That ain't Zeus. It it is Zeus that worked. Zeus named after what a Greek guy, yeah. That's what in that context, it ain't Zeus.

SPEAKER_05

I remember when you first dropped that's what he was talking about. Oh, this is the black nail, all that. That's what you man, they got the culture right now, though. I I say that they got the culture, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But for how long? Yeah, we had Diddy had the culture too. Uh uh. So hey, take that. Yeah, so there you go. That was the end of his demise, and we're gonna keep that going, and we're gonna take it to Megan the Stallion, has been in the news all. Week long for her breakup. So let's just take a look at this before we get into Megan the Sally. Alright. Let's go ahead and play this clip, guys.

SPEAKER_05

Clay cheated on her. Cheating had me around the whole family playing house.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, so I thought we were playing a clip. You got cold feet. So we don't have the clip. So we'll just go ahead and talk about it.

SPEAKER_05

So guys, wings and treatment towards her during his season.

SPEAKER_06

Yes. Megan said it all. So he's been cheating on her. And she stated that you know he's brought her around his family playing house, and but he doesn't want to be in a monogamous relationship. So the internet's just going crazy, going wild over this. We can take that off the screen, guys. And um at the end of the day, I look at this as a whole, it's a big, big picture here because we have so many black men who have money, who have power, and access, who who's tearing a black woman down, who's actually glorifying with these men cheating at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_05

These niggas I'll say it for you, Tyre. You good or ninjas.

SPEAKER_06

There you go. And I'm just like, do black men really like black women? They do. Uh uh uh and I I know I'm married to a black man, right? At the end of the day, welcome back, Don D. Welcome back. Can you hear us? Oh, you're out again, sir. Yes, but he I guess he needs to come on on his phone. His best bet is the phone at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_05

Um, what make you say that though?

SPEAKER_06

Tanya will do black man like black women because because all we hear Stephen A. Smith. Um, what's the other? It's so many of them coming out and speaking against um Megan the Stallion. And not only that, just saying they didn't see they knew it wasn't gonna last, this, that, and the third. And I just feel like, first of all, celebrity or not celebrity. Um, celebrity or not celebrity, I don't think you people should be putting their relationships out there in the first place. Because people are always gonna be, somebody's always gonna be praying against you and your happiness at the end of the day. And we see a lot of them coming out of the woodworks speaking their truths now. What do you guys feel about that?

SPEAKER_08

Um, I don't think it's that black men, black men hate black women. I don't I don't believe in that. I don't think that. I just think men cheat. It's just what is what it is, and women gotta give you through their head in the back of your head. That just is what it is. You're either gonna stay in it or you're not. And to tell you the truth, I'm just gonna be honest. I think she should have stayed.

SPEAKER_06

She should have stayed, why?

SPEAKER_08

I mean, he he brought her everything she wanted, she wanted a house, he got her house. She got her own money, though. Does she? Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_05

Well, it wasn't about the money. That's always about the money. It's always about the money.

SPEAKER_06

I was getting ready to say, but let's make it make sense. She's like, and that's the problem. People always want more.

SPEAKER_08

Exactly. It was about the money, it was about the life. I mean, don't Maggie has the life. She does have the life, but he has more. And why would you want to spend your money when you could spend his money?

SPEAKER_06

Oh, that's true all day long. Shark tank. That that that's a true statement all day long. But the reason I say that black men do they really like black women is because of the negative statements they're making, not because of them cheating, because all men cheat, whether they're white, black, Chinese, Puerto Rican, whatever, right? But you don't hear these men get out in public and degrade their women like the black men do. Where?

SPEAKER_08

No, we just don't see it. And white women are starting to do it more and more about their men.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, white white women are, yes, but I'm too though.

SPEAKER_08

Black women do it too. We do it to each other.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, well, I think so.

SPEAKER_08

We do it to each other, so we gotta stop paying, we have to stop pointing at the black men talking about they do. We do it to each other, and it's even worse that we're on social media. So, you know, we we gotta everybody does it, everybody does. No, like you said, every man's the same, and the white women started coming out about they they're men.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, we see all of the housewives being divorced now, like there.

SPEAKER_08

I don't think no, it's not the same like it used to be back in the 80s and the 90s.

SPEAKER_06

Well, this is what I will say about that because how old are you guys?

SPEAKER_08

38.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, so here's what I will say about that. I think it's the same shit that was that's going that that went on back then, go on now, just that people were more respectful. We didn't have social media because you had neighbors sleeping with neighbors' houses where I next door neighbors where I grew up at. Yeah, you know, and they didn't talk about it. And you know what I'm saying? A lot of things were swept under the table, but nowadays, yes. And so does that make it right? Yeah, but does that make it right? I mean, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_08

You either you either deal with it or you can't, you know, and I I mean I respect if you leave, I've left. You know what I'm saying? I respect it. It's what you can deal with, you know what I'm saying? You be with who wants to be with you, yes.

SPEAKER_06

But when you say left, what does that mean?

unknown

Huh?

SPEAKER_06

You left.

SPEAKER_08

Yes, I've I have left left a relationship in the past that I was in for a long time, and I grew up with a mom and dad, so I seen it my whole life. I seen my mom leave my dad because of another child or cheating. You know, I seen that. We leave, come back. I seen it, but she stayed for her kids. My daddy wasn't abusive, he went to work, he took care of us, my mom took care of us. You know, I seen I seen a woman, a black woman love a black man, I seen a black man love a black woman, I seen them go through struggles, I seen them through their umps and downs, but they stayed together, you know. So don't nobody want to stay with nobody, don't nobody want to go through the struggle with each other. So that's what it is now, you know, and it's all because of social media.

SPEAKER_06

You think it's all because of social media, though?

SPEAKER_08

It's because you could go on slide and pick your man, and then if you that wouldn't know where you could pick another one, and he could pick another, he can get another one, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06

It's easy to move on, laughing too. It's easy to move on, yes, because I'm like, what in the world is going on?

SPEAKER_08

That's what's going on, that's what's going on. So you either can deal with it or you can't.

SPEAKER_05

Meg knew he had them hoes, yes. Meg knew two meg knew 200 million and the NBA star. I feel like that in the beginning, like he can't look. This was going on, and like she was cool with it until she gave him an ultimatum. He's like, No, I'm keeping like you could stay or you could go, and she chose to go. He ain't what he he she ain't what he wants, and I feel like the black man are attacking. I know I feel like he he he he she she he would have rocked with her, but she had to accept his he was probably a bigger hoe than what she is perceived to be. Probably so the NBA, uh NBA full-time NBA champion with 200 million. Like, come on now, and you coming to me.

SPEAKER_06

Maybe she didn't want to be embarrassed at the end of the day. But she's a hoe. I wouldn't say that. That's hold on. How is Meg a hoe? Yeah, I wouldn't say that.

SPEAKER_05

That's who she's perceived to be. I don't know. I don't know. I ain't gonna say that, Meg.

SPEAKER_06

I ain't gonna say she is. But what what what I see and what I want her to explain to me how Meg is a hoe.

SPEAKER_08

Meg it, Meg has slept with so many industry men. That don't make hoe men do it. Men's okay, you're right, you might hoe is just a word, she can do whatever she wants, you know what I'm saying? And he can do whatever she wants. Exactly. Some men feel some men don't like that, you know.

SPEAKER_06

So are men tricks, huh? So are men tricks?

SPEAKER_08

Because I think some men are tricks, trick men out here, yeah. Yeah, a lot of the older men are tricks.

SPEAKER_06

I wouldn't say a lot of these men who play paying allowances to women to me are tricks. Yeah, so was Clay a trick?

unknown

Probably.

SPEAKER_08

He was a little simp.

SPEAKER_05

He gave symbobs, but that's look that that's where Meg fucked up. That's where Meg. That's why all her fans, that's where all her how she does writing. She the one crying up, she crying, she ain't even crying in her maid back. She crying in her mate back. That nigga was on the yacht today. She ain't on the yacht. She ain't crying either. But man, what you know how many people make or I won't. How many of them niggas you think spent what Clay spent? Meg was the money. Meg was kicking, kicking it with Clay. That's why she's so upset. You gotta stop this shit. 100 million.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, you're about to embarrass me. I'm over here cooking and saving. That's true.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I feel like when you said the black men, and um, I don't they don't hate, we don't we don't hate black women. A lot of uh black men are vocal in some ways that sound ignorant, but I feel like the passion behind it is in society, the black man is at the bottom of the totem pole, like that's just what it is. So the black man's at the bottom of the totem pole, and with Meg and the industry, again, it seems as if she tried to use her status and her following, and they might all watch Zeus to really kind of paint a narrative about a four-time champion, you know, to tarnish his character. Well, you know what?

SPEAKER_06

I said today to my friends locked up. I'm looking at this from both angles, and I said the same thing you just said, so May could be using her fans tear him down the same way.

SPEAKER_05

She got a nigga locked up for something he didn't, you know what I mean? It's it's a pattern going on. So for a black man that's at the other end of that, they see they see in like you try to one way, you try to it's a couple, and then this you try to do clay, and the bet the most she could do was fuck up his character, make him look like a cheater. They already know he's a cheater. Well, he's already a yeah, we know he's a cheater because her he's been with only move. That's what she went for. It's like we know your character, man.

SPEAKER_08

It was a stupid move for everything you get on the internet and say that to me. I think so.

SPEAKER_06

Well, she got a lot of people in her corner.

SPEAKER_08

Well, whatever, and that's that's the thing that's the problem nowadays, Zeus. Zeus is the Zeus is the problem, right? Right, hot girl summer. What's the problem?

SPEAKER_06

Yes, hot girl summer. Okay, okay. But I think I don't even know like relationships, like where where it's even going nowadays when it comes to commitment. Are you guys committed to one another?

SPEAKER_08

We like to hear. That's what he's saying.

SPEAKER_06

We like to hear okay. So y'all, y'all are definitely committed to one another.

SPEAKER_07

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

And y'all live a monogamous rel y'all have a monogamous relationship. I ain't done nothing. I'm just asking. She said nothing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08

I was waiting for why you not? Like, what is going on here? We good, we good.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, a good day.

SPEAKER_08

If I felt like I was gonna have that problem, I I wouldn't even deal with it, tell you the truth. I've been in relationships, I've been in a long relationship for like 11 years, you know, and I study men. Like, I study them. So I I wouldn't, I would have known if he wasn't, but he's very honest. He's very honest, and that's what I love about him. He's honest to the T. And I'm honest. So, you know, and I don't take nothing, I don't take nothing too personal. Tell me, tell me what I'm doing wrong. Tell me, I'm I I love that. So we we good in that department, I feel like. And I he know I told him if you guys you have a problem or you feel like you need to, let me know. Let me know.

SPEAKER_06

But in so I'm I'm sure a lot of women make that statement to their man, and I think sometimes the man feels as though like I don't want to tell her because I don't want to hurt her, or you know, he's looking at well, her feelings at the end of the day, and they still go out and do what they do. And don't get me wrong, because women cheat just like men cheat.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, so I know it works two ways, but at the end of the day, you you can sit there and say, Well, you know, tell me the truth, tell me the truth, tell me the truth.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, and that don't mean don't mean nothing exactly at the end of the day, even when you marry, it don't mean nothing.

SPEAKER_06

No, no, no, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_05

No, it's what's insurance, tell me the truth because if you'll find out something, didn't I tell you to tell me that's that's what that is. I ain't doing nothing, no, but that's insurance.

SPEAKER_08

I feel like that's a betrayal if you couldn't tell me, you know, that's a step back. I I agree, I agree with you, and I'm telling you, just let me know. I mean, you ain't even gotta tell me you slept with her, just like look, I'm looking, it's you know what I'm saying? Yes, you know, just just let me know. I that's I'm good with that, but I'm I'm happy within myself, though. A lot of women are not happy, so it's it's nothing to me, you know.

SPEAKER_06

Well, when you say women aren't happy with themselves, no, well, they're men that's not happy with themselves either, just people in general, yeah, you know, and I think a lot of people are walking around broken and hurt, and they carry that on um to the next relationship. You can't do that, and they don't know they don't like if you don't have self-love, how can you love somebody else exactly at the end of the day? So, but we're gonna get into what the show is really about tonight.

SPEAKER_01

What the show is really about, yes.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, and it's a great segue. Donde keeps saying he's in, but I don't think. Are you in this time? I don't know what the heck is going on with his him tonight, Lord. He is he is probably furious. This is so funny to me, guys. Okay, so let's just talk about are there any boundaries in the bedroom when it comes to it is like what boundaries do you guys have?

SPEAKER_05

I'd like to go ahead. I got boundaries. I ain't doing no ass play.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, you don't play that shit.

SPEAKER_05

I think she tried to be up.

SPEAKER_06

Hold on. Okay, Lisa. Okay. What do you mean by ass play? You gotta have to elaborate on me. Sometimes you gotta you know, like when she's squeezing your butt. I wasn't gonna squeezing his butt. Nah, like squeezing his butt and your fingers went in between his butt cheeks. I know she was.

SPEAKER_01

I wasn't okay. You know, little uh all right, whatever.

SPEAKER_08

I'm gonna tell you what happened. I'm gonna tell you what happened. I told him one night, babe, get naked. We was getting in the bed. I was like, get naked, I'm gonna give you a massage. He was like, get naked. I was like, yeah, take a dog, get naked. And I was like, turn around, turn around on your stomach. So he was like, Wait, I was like, turn around your stomach. He was like, I don't know about that. I was like, all right, so he was so by the time I came out with the oil stuff, he was like, Man, I must put my drawers on. And I was like, Wow, you don't trust me? He was like, Nah, I don't play that. I'm like, okay, that's fine. I understood, I know where he was coming from.

SPEAKER_05

I was ass up. I was on his stomach with my hat. I'm like, I ain't never done that.

SPEAKER_06

I I so what about what about with Trick Daddy? Because Trick Daddy is saying, hey, um, oh, he can do it. Well, he he said there the women are doing it to him too.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, we don't know nothing about that.

SPEAKER_06

That's so no, they do it though.

SPEAKER_05

I I didn't I wouldn't I I didn't decline. I know it get done, but I just ain't I ain't like you said no booty action.

SPEAKER_06

I just you don't want none of that.

SPEAKER_08

I'm happy, I'm glad he's like that because I have meant yes, absolutely like that stuff. They do.

SPEAKER_06

No, my husband don't want me even coming near his butt.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I love that. I love this for me.

SPEAKER_05

I think y'all got a secret chat or a secret book. See, women have this women got this book, and then they got a couple pages where it's like y'all communicate, and it's something that probably was passed down from from you know, hey, this the game. You gotta check. So I feel like it's some stuff where y'all be trying, where it's the game.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, look, now check it out. Listen, listen, if your man, if your man says he's straight and he lets you put your finger in his butt, there's no way he's straight.

SPEAKER_08

No, it's not, he's not straight.

SPEAKER_06

He's not straight. No, no, if he even lets you near his butt, he ain't straight. Don't you agree?

SPEAKER_08

Another one, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I think, and I think y'all be trying, like, like be just trying this little tester, like it might get close, just with whatever. That's the that's the book that y'all like. Hey, this is what you do.

SPEAKER_08

You have to try, you have to try now. You have to, you have to at least try.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but there is no listen. I don't discuss what I do in the bedroom with my friends anyway, because next, you know, you know, I our grandparents taught us like you don't tell your best friend what you do to your man or what your man is doing to you at the end of the day. I don't know about you, men. Do y'all discuss what y'all do in the bedroom? With no, no, no, no, not really.

SPEAKER_08

Not really, not even more than that. Not even not.

SPEAKER_06

Well, men talk more than women nowadays. When men are big gossipers, men are real, they is. Yeah, I didn't detail.

SPEAKER_05

Men are big gossipers. Everything run down their whole playbook, nah. What yeah, niggas is talking, yeah, niggas talk, but not not like that, like we sit around at this and that, you know. I think uh men talk just to see if like uh not what's going on, just to see if you know I don't know what that means. What does that mean? Just like men talk, they might they might they not talk about how they performing or what they didn't did or but who they did it with. Man, niggas cock, yeah. But what they be talking about, yeah. I ain't gonna get it out of me. Oh Donde, hey!

SPEAKER_06

They're trying to jump me, Don D. They trying to jump me, Don D. Listen, you're on the truth ain't in us. All the man code is gone right now. We want to know, like, you be talking about what? Like, she put it down last night. What? Like, what not like that? Like, we don't talk like y'all, but niggas might talk, but it'll just be brief.

SPEAKER_05

Feud. Hey, I did that. Nah, I didn't. And then niggas lied too. So I don't be believing niggas. I don't wanna believe nobody, but yeah, you know, it'll it'll just be yeah, I did, yeah, I didn't, and then move on. Oh my god, that that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_06

And you ain't know y'all ain't know that though. Y'all didn't want to. I know well, I do know men lie on on sex. Yeah, men lie about who they've had sex with, too.

SPEAKER_05

So that that's about mostly what niggas talk about make like, and then I don't believe that. I mean like me, I don't be believing much of what niggas say. Or something that you know, and I don't I and I she don't know explain I don't really be caring, really, just as far as uh history or whatever you did uh if we got something going on, that's what y'all that was before us, now it's us, but like men uh are probably I think men talk to throw off sometimes since they did something they did shit like that.

SPEAKER_06

So let me ask you guys this. So I was I think Tasha K just interviewed this young lady um who was dating jock. And she yes, and she alleges that yes, it's going down, yes, and um she alleges that jock took her tampon out and went down on her, like going down like is that is that a thing now because someone told me that was a thing.

SPEAKER_08

She's crazy because I ain't no way I would let nobody do that.

SPEAKER_06

Like, I'm because I want to know if men turning into Dracula these days.

SPEAKER_08

I mean, there's some nasty.

SPEAKER_06

Are y'all Dracula?

SPEAKER_08

There's something out here, but that's her fault she let him do that.

SPEAKER_06

Well, it's alleged.

SPEAKER_08

We don't know, uh you know, she's coming out, but for her to even say that it's disgusting, it's disgusting because girl, I would be embarrassed to even tell anyone that the truth. I hope she was getting paid.

SPEAKER_06

Oh well, Tasha K says she doesn't pay anybody, so I don't know. So I'm just wondering, is that uh is that a new thing? I don't heard I ain't heard that one.

SPEAKER_05

Your guy friends ain't talking about that. I ain't talking about that one. I don't know what that one called. I don't know. It's going down that's called the Gornell. Oh meet me at the mall. I got I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know how to be and are you guys like have y'all talked about like doing any of the swingers stuff? Is that like off limit when it comes to your relationship?

SPEAKER_05

See, like this letter Slid do see she is an ass and see it's a lot of stuff. She's like, you ain't with that. And then she'd give me a little bit more.

SPEAKER_08

He's not, he's not with that. I'm not with it, but I would like to unknow what he likes though.

SPEAKER_06

And if he likes it, if you're against it, are you still gonna do it?

SPEAKER_08

Um, I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

You don't know, so you're gonna compromise.

SPEAKER_08

I'm I'm I'm very good with compromising.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but if it's something you don't believe in, would you still compromise it?

SPEAKER_08

It's not that I don't believe in it because I believe people like what they like, and I want to make him happy. I feel like if it's something I can't do, I'll be like, well, you know, maybe just be somebody that makes you happy. If then we'll get billbreaker, you know what I'm saying? But I mean, it's I will I'm willing to listen and compromise.

SPEAKER_05

So, Il, are you down for that? I ain't never done it. I've been to a couple functions just on a random, like, like, like, oh, what's going on? Oh, what's going on? So, you didn't know you were going to the place? I was I ain't know I was going to the place. It was it was some it was some janky shit too. I wouldn't even, it wasn't even my speed too. It was just some I don't even know how I just ended up there. Hell yeah, it was a dusty hotel. I was like, what the hell going on? I ain't I ain't touching nothing. I did the wall like 21 Savage. I wasn't on the wall. But but I ain't I ain't never done it. I don't know. Uh I don't know. You got me thinking that you done did something. Hey, nah, nah nah. I haven't uh I wouldn't say that I'm opposed to it all the way, but maybe a little later on, like in our relationship, maybe may I I man it should be um really know how to you know it just let's just say this that's not a boundary, it's not a boundary, like yeah. Let me just say that it's not it's not a boundary.

SPEAKER_06

So can she have a because so can a man come and join? Uh no, I ain't about to lose what is this some double standard shit.

SPEAKER_08

No, I don't play that shit. I don't like I don't I don't I don't even hang around gay men, I don't have nothing against them. I have gay cousins and stuff. I got stuck, girl cousins.

SPEAKER_06

No, no, no, no. You don't even have he doesn't even have to be gay, he doesn't have to say no, I don't want to see none of that.

SPEAKER_05

You are gay, you're in a bad no, but nothing about some technical like you are we gonna we have a spot and then whoop whoop and then nigga walk in, he's like, Hey, it means it's like hey, can I because that's how they do it, right? They gotta ask yes, that's what I heard. That's what I heard. That's what I heard too.

SPEAKER_06

Well, actually, I had a conversation with someone about it that has that that went there, and that's what I was told that's what they do. I just thought everybody was engaging, and she was like, No, no, no, doing this type of thing.

SPEAKER_05

Like, hey, hey, can I you ask this? And then they'd be like, All right, let me do that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08

I can't, I don't, I don't know. I can't, I don't know. I I would have to be out of my mind or something, like happened to me, but I just me being no, I just couldn't, I can't do that.

SPEAKER_06

I can't so so you do have some limitations, yeah. That's a boundary for you, yeah. Play that because I feel like when you bring like someone in your bedroom, like that's gonna cause a division because at the end of the day, what if he likes her more than he likes you? Yeah, I'm um or he likes the sex, I would say, more than your sex.

SPEAKER_05

That's that's the truth. I feel like that's true. That's bringing somebody, yeah. Uh well, that's just a uh past the slide for real. Somebody make up in their head, uh make it up while it's like, well, I already did it. I I was about to say something, and y'all plan on getting married one day, right? We're working on it, we're working on building. Hopefully, that's the goal, right? If we're building together, that's his goal. That's my goal. You heard well, it should be both of you guys' goal.

SPEAKER_08

I mean, I we have we had this talk. We, you know, I will I would genuinely he has to want that for us. It's up to him to make that decision. I can't make that from him.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, because he you gotta be the one to propose L.

SPEAKER_08

Yes, and then it's up to me if I want to be with him. Well, that's how that's how it's supposed to go.

SPEAKER_06

But you already said y'all connected at the hip.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, yeah, this is my baby.

SPEAKER_06

Well, there you go.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I'm just saying it's it's size to it, you know what I'm saying? It's up to the man to marry you, and it's my decision if I feel like well, a lot of women today, some of these women are asking the men to marry them. I'm not doing that. No, genuinely. I feel like if a man wants to marry you and he wants you to be his girl, he wants to be his life partner, he wants to be with you, he's gonna be, he's gonna be with you.

SPEAKER_06

Be with him, be with you. And I'm a firm believer that a man knows that he wants to marry you from day one. From day one, Clay knew, you know, day one, Clay knew. Yeah, Clay knew he wasn't gonna marry her, but he shouldn't have played with her either.

SPEAKER_08

I don't think he played with her.

SPEAKER_06

Um well, we weren't there, yeah, yeah, and I can only go by what she's saying because he really hasn't said anything, yeah, he hasn't responded because she's the one saying that he said he would be true, you know, it would just be them. There would be in a monogamous relationship. That's what he said.

SPEAKER_08

Well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_08

Nothing coming out of Megan Mouth. I'm not even gonna lie. I like Meg, though.

SPEAKER_05

I like Meg. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_08

I don't believe nothing coming out of her mouth.

SPEAKER_06

I like Magic.

SPEAKER_08

I'm sorry, she runs to the internet about everything, her relationship, girl.

SPEAKER_06

Well, a lot of people do nowadays, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

But some stuff don't need to be said, like a lot of shit don't need to be said. Don't need to be said, you in a relationship, you went move on.

SPEAKER_06

Exactly.

SPEAKER_08

Move on too mixed, like it's not that deep.

SPEAKER_06

People just do too much, like and it goes back to what Ill was saying. I truly believe that I'm starting to believe that now maybe she did that for a reason to have to have everybody turning on him. She always does the end of the day, so uh but I'll get married.

SPEAKER_05

Uh I feel like I I want I know I want to be successful and a better person in life, better in life, and I feel like like from my observation, it's just that having a partner, like a lot of successful people I look up to, is like they they reach the level of success. It's a different level of success when you got a partner. That's what I offer observation, that's what I see. So, and not even just for that reason, but just ask somebody. I feel like I feel like I want to get married one day. But like, we'll see.

SPEAKER_06

So what are one bad what are the one boundary you will never cross? Ill, I want you to go first. Well, bedroom boundary. I told you that.

SPEAKER_08

You said boundary bedroom boundary or just boundary, just boundary, period.

SPEAKER_05

That I will never cross, like I wouldn't go against. I got a boundary that is just like this hat is and and that's a good question. Um it might have to come to me because a lot in art, like with it, it'll come to me. Like when it's just like, oh done, this is like important. I I uh I can't really say right now. It's like an on the spot. The bedroom boundary that ask like I ain't that's that, but like that's you already made that clear, crystal clear. Um what's the boundary for you?

SPEAKER_08

I would just say me and truthful. I mean, I've I've you know, I I should I I have I have uh look, sorry. I haven't gave him a reason to not be truthful for truthful to me because I'm very comfortable with myself. I'm very, I know my worth. Like I you can talk to me, you know what I'm saying? Um, yeah, just being truthful. About how you feel, you know, how you feel about me, uh, what you feel like we need to work on, what I need to work on in the bedroom, you know, just be truthful with me.

SPEAKER_06

And L, do you feel like you would be able to come to her and share those things?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, sometimes, and then uh I got a boundary too. Sometimes, because it's this thing, not to say lie, because I'm not just like a I'm not an advocate for a liar, and that's one of my boundaries. I don't do the lying, like, like, because if you lie about a little, you lie about a lot, and then I can't I can't believe nothing you saying, like that's a big boundary, like because I'm already just jaded with trust shit. So, like that lying shit, I can't do nothing with it. I done seen too many fall from like a little lie, like real, real talk. So I'm not a good liar, so like uh that's for being truthful, Scorpio.

SPEAKER_08

You never gotta lie.

SPEAKER_05

You can conceal it. You ain't gotta tell you, they ain't gotta know. Okay, but I was like that.

SPEAKER_06

But that's it, but this is his truth. So like, you know, that's his truth.

SPEAKER_08

Sometimes we're not gonna we're not gonna like the truth. Men are just like that, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just it's it's just in them. They don't want to hurt your feelings, even though you can, they know they can tell you, but they they it's just something it's something in them that they just can't do it, you know.

SPEAKER_06

And and that's the point I was making because I've been married for 35 years now. So, I mean, you want you know, someone to be able to come to you and be honest and all that stuff, but I think sometimes it's hard for men to do that because they don't want to hurt the person they love, you know. So that's where I was coming from when I made that statement. But yes, and what time is it here? Okay, so it's subjective, huh? Like, I don't I'm just thinking, no, say say it out loud. Like say it with your chest out too.

SPEAKER_05

I know like I feel like we it like cheating, cheating. Um, if you just doing something, like you just you just wandering off, and I didn't I was in whatever it's circumstantial, so whatever the circumstances was that you did something, I think it's more just about like all right, I came and told you hey, I just did something last night, and then I think with women they gonna investigate like who was she? What is the it's more about the emotional connection and what was you missing that you had to do that where you couldn't just come to meet, and that's where a lot of that gets like where we probably and that's the point. Why do it this and then I went over here not had that conversation? No, it just if you gotta do that, then it's like why even like you know, be in the in the thing if if it get like that now. If it was just some shit you wandered off and you would you wandered off, how the hell you just wander off if you wandering off.

SPEAKER_06

I'm not wandering off. You you acting like you wandered off into that um the what's the place you said you went to and you don't know how you got there. You don't even know how you got there.

SPEAKER_05

Oh wow, I was wandering off. I ain't wandering out much so now, Tanya. I'm I'm I'm in a relationship with my baby.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, yeah, I believe you're a good guy. I do. I do believe you're a good guy. So guys, it's time for the truth bomb. We got this little segment that I call the truth bomb. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you gotta get ready for the truth bomb, baby. Let's go ahead and drop that bomb.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, the grenade. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, oh my god, y'all are too much. So let me ask you guys this. Have you ever done something you didn't want to do to please your other partner?

SPEAKER_01

All the time.

SPEAKER_08

Wait, like what is it? I think I know. Say it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh hold on now, hold on. This is real. I'll be I'm being real with my words now. I know y'all trying to jump me earlier. So you say we're not jumping you. What's the question? Have I ever did something to please? Let you go first. I've been talking a lot.

SPEAKER_06

No, you have you so have you ever done something you didn't want to do that you didn't want to do to please your partner? There's a man all the time. That's what that's what it comes like.

SPEAKER_05

If I ever did something I didn't want to do, yeah, who's my partner?

SPEAKER_01

What is it? What you laughing for? What is it?

SPEAKER_05

I'm not really a uh well, I am really like social, social like that. I'm good at being social, but I'm not really like social like that.

SPEAKER_08

He's not okay. So what are you saying?

SPEAKER_05

So just like being social, we go out and just like be with the friend, the fake, fake ass friend. I don't really do that, but I will I I'll play, you know. I mean, that's what I play friend, I smile. Oh my goodness, I'm good at being social, but I I just like that's the thing where I would if I would rather not a lot, and then she's bubbly, she's the life of the party. You know, she's she's more so just playing that fake ass friend, and I think with just um that's what I call it. I call it being fake.

SPEAKER_06

I ain't being fake, I'm being me.

SPEAKER_05

I mean me being fake because that's why I do that.

SPEAKER_06

I wouldn't want to do be fake or have some shit that I yeah, I think what he's saying too is going somewhere he doesn't want to go, um, maybe a party or an event, and being around people that he considers what fake.

SPEAKER_05

Well, she told you she's in the industry, so you know, a lot of those people are are are are away.

SPEAKER_06

He is yeah, there are a lot of fake people in the industry, for sure, you know.

SPEAKER_08

So and I know that, and I just I just be me. I'm me everywhere I go. So you either like me or you don't, and I don't care.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. So what about you?

SPEAKER_08

He's the same way, he don't care.

SPEAKER_06

No, what about you? No, I'm talking about the question. Oh, bound um have you ever done something um that you didn't want to do to please your partner?

SPEAKER_08

Um, I'm a pleaser. So everything? Yeah, I'm a pleaser.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

It's not that I don't want to do it. If I don't want to do it, I'm not gonna do it. Okay. I'm just not gonna do it. But no, I'm a pleaser. Like I'm I'm I'm giving, I'm just, you know.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. And so is sexual um compatibility more important than emotional connection for either one of us?

SPEAKER_08

No, emotional. Emotional for me.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, emotional. I would say emotional for me. Yeah, I gotta like you, I gotta, you know. Yeah, I gotta vibe with you for I can.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, we did 30 days.

SPEAKER_06

30 days of what?

SPEAKER_08

No sex. Okay, yeah, 39. Okay, okay, okay. I was with it though.

SPEAKER_06

I agree, because you know she counted that nine days, and so so you so he he was the one initiated it. What was that all about? He initiated what uh the 30 the 39 days, no sex.

SPEAKER_08

I mean, we really didn't talk about it, really.

SPEAKER_05

I would I did that because I've been uh me and Izzy. We uh we started up on a New Year's, we've been knowing each other for a minute, like really, we was in kindergarten together, yeah. And like just even like like we we like she over here, I'm over here doing her thing. I'm in the industry as well, and she got came down to Atlanta, got in the industry on her own, and I was really proud of her. And I know her, I know her family. We from the same area, like we went to camp together, but like we didn't even get into that depth of detail, but we knew each other and stuff in passing up until like the first of this year. I was just re I was redoing everything, cleansing out my life, refreshing so I could just start anew, and I was just cut off all my holes, like just cut them off, like like it's through. I ain't even doing none of that, like like I'm focusing on me, and then so at the top of the year, Izzy, we uh we just link up, you know, uh doing content. I did I started doing content and stuff, and she's been doing it, and I did a post and it went viral, and she was commenting on it. I always reach out to her, like I really used to look look after, like you know, I know her big cousins, all that, like so. I know Izzy, and when we down in Atlanta, you know, we from the same area. I would look after, I don't even think she knew how I would really know that like these is my people. I know all y'all, these is my people, so I would really watch after her, and I ain't get too close to her up until because I was really more so watching her, you know what I mean? Respect, and the top of the year, it was like when I did the post, it was like she commented on it, it was so funny, and she commented on it, and it was funny. And I'm like, wait, is he is he do content? And then so it was a thing like come over. This is the first of the year, like the very first day of the year. The first day of the year, like come come over and let's uh you know, let's do some content. So we start doing content. We hit it off instantly, the chemistry right there, and that's when we got to talking, just like you know, about home. And then my brother, he was at he was at my spot, he came down the stairs, like, wait, I know you're like, Yeah, me and your sister, your cousin, we all was in kindergarten together. And then she was like, Wait, what's school? And then come to find out, she called her mom, go get a baby picture of me in kindergarten, like, wait, no my goodness, we didn't. Bobbing making the content, but the chemistry, everything we was doing on the comment, the chemistry, it was just it just was locked in. So a couple weeks in, we vibing hard, like hey, so we start looking like hey, and then I just made that like a thing because I was off like I wasn't holding bad, but like you know, I was really trying to re-cleanse and refresh, and I ain't want to make it about that. Because our kicking, you know, I wanted to bad as hell, like man. Well, that that's bigger. I was real pressure for me. I was real pressure for I remember Yeah, because she's a beautiful woman, gorgeous. And I remember we did one skit and we ain't in a time, and then it was it was like a sexual skit, and we're just doing it just for the skit. We ain't doing nothing. I'm just like, oh my god, like you gonna see that? She likes it's natural, you know, they're gonna do that. I I just was seeing like I was on my discipline because I started up here, no, you started you were standing at you was saluting her, yeah. It was going crazy. I was proud of myself.

SPEAKER_06

I respect it, I respect it, I liked it. I liked it. Yes, that's a great story. And is cheating about sex, guys, or about disrespect?

SPEAKER_08

Is cheating about sex?

SPEAKER_06

Is cheating just about sex, or is it about disrespect at the end of the day? It's about disrespect. So you guys both agree that uh yeah, it's about disrespect.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, it's about disrespect. Sometimes a man gotta see if he still got it, you know.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that ain't even irrespect because even if you see you still got it, you could get up to a point and then be like, Man, I got shorty at the car, I got my wife. That's where the respect comes in. But if y'all arguing, you thinking she doing something, so you do so. I come from some shit like that, like multiple times. I don't even talk, I'm not, I'm not an arguer. I ain't gonna argue with you. I suspect think you doing not in this. I'm doing so. Say with that 30 day, I'm doing this different, like what I mean, like honestly. And I like, but previously, if I'm I feel like you're doing something, I might not even say nothing. I might catch something, I ain't gonna say nothing. I'm gonna just go do that. That's the word the respect ain't. Are you disrespect? I'm gonna just do that and play play like you playing. I don't want to be on them games, but it's definitely about that respect, disrespect. I feel so.

SPEAKER_06

And last question are more people hurt by cheating or by the embarrassment, you think? Um, and for me, I think it's the cheating because I think it's the cheat. You can't be embarrassed unless you go and tell people, exactly. You know what I'm saying? So, unless you get caught, you're a celebrity, and someone catches you, takes a picture, and they post it, then of course, yes.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, well, cheated is it well it was it ain't embarrassing unless they go public, huh? Cheating.

SPEAKER_06

I think uh I just for me, that's just in my opinion.

SPEAKER_05

It's about the cheating, it's it's it's it's going against that bond, and even then, like you communicate. So if you communicate, like hey, so if I came to you, like, hey, I'm about to go do something, like uh I'm gonna go do something, I want to do it, like how would that go?

SPEAKER_08

I'm like, okay, you heard that, Tanya?

SPEAKER_06

Uh no desire. Hold on, hold on, no, hold on. So I'm gonna replay that whole conversation right there. So he comes to you and he said, Listen, I want to go have sex with somebody, and you're gonna say okay.

SPEAKER_08

I'm gonna say okay, and that's fine, it's not fine, but I'm gonna say okay.

SPEAKER_06

So why okay, so why is it gonna be okay?

SPEAKER_08

Okay, it's gonna scare him, and he's gonna think about it more.

SPEAKER_06

You think so? I don't know about that. Tell a nigga that you because a nigga gonna say I know that though, but it but but that's a trick back. No, but then but then you can't just assume that. I can't assume what that it's gonna scare them because the first thing I believe I want him to do what's gonna make him happy.

SPEAKER_08

If that's gonna make him happy and mess up what me and him have, and we built, go do that. I'm gonna say okay. And so then I could decide if you're gonna say his clothes is gonna be outside. Because what am I getting out of this? What am I getting out of this? What is still, you know what I'm saying? Like, what what is this? I ain't gotta say two words, okay.

SPEAKER_06

And you better sleep with one eye damn open.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I had to ask for a reference. I love Izzy.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, if I blink, I need help.

SPEAKER_06

I'm not coming. Listen, if you if you're telling her that I'm not coming to help you, I ain't tell her.

SPEAKER_05

I just have now. We just revealed this on Tanya Wilder, right? We just but if she tells that let's reverse it.

SPEAKER_08

Wait, see if she tells you I want to let him here. Uh go be with the nigga.

SPEAKER_05

The living phone, you know, wrap this up. You can go flo go see how easy. Like that's that yeah, that's easy. I'll do that because I want what makes you happy. So if you gotta do that, then but but you see the you see the setup, I was like, okay, no, yeah, that's be with the nigga. The setup first was witness. If you ever feel like you got the need to do anything, that's the first setup, right?

SPEAKER_08

So you think it is fun, and I want you to do the same answer, okay.

SPEAKER_05

So that's the first setup. Like, man, my shorty cool. I can cut to her, but then you're gonna come, and then you're gonna get flush.

SPEAKER_08

You're gonna get okay.

SPEAKER_06

So you you're both basically on the same page.

SPEAKER_08

Hey, what what can I do? I can't, I'm not about to fight. I'm not about to I look, that's too much energy.

SPEAKER_06

Um, what I get from this, you're both on the same page. It's just different.

SPEAKER_05

It's how Mary deal with it, I had a lot of things. I'm not going to jail because you want to see the woman uh the woman uh be like, oh yeah, it's okay, and I and that's why don't tell like this. This is the perfect example. It ain't uh just us specifically, it's the species. I feel like men do certain things, women do certain things. Would do it is be like go be with the nigga. A woman do it and be like, Oh, yeah, okay. Some some on both sides, yeah, okay, but not be okay with it.

SPEAKER_08

So that's okay, but let me. I can look, I have feelings. I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna be hurt. I'm not gonna say what did I what did I do wrong, I'm not gonna say none of that.

SPEAKER_06

It's okay. So I don't think it, yeah. I don't think it has anything to do with somebody doing something wrong when somebody cheats. I think it's the uh person that's just being selfish at the end of the day, yeah, yeah, and it's okay.

SPEAKER_08

You want to you would want you have to be happy.

SPEAKER_01

Why are you laughing?

SPEAKER_06

Why are you laughing? Well, first of all, I appreciate you guys coming on and being honest and open. I like this. This is our first podcast. It is. How do we do? You listen, you could you guys good great. I appreciate you so much. Um, I love your energy, I love the way you guys connect, and I love your truth.

SPEAKER_08

Thank you.

SPEAKER_06

You know, and um, I'm sure the audience will feel the same way. Um, but yeah, what and I want you guys to tell everybody like where they can find you on social media.

SPEAKER_08

Um, you can find me at hold up iszy h o l u p I-z-y.

SPEAKER_05

And you can find me at well, we have a page together, our content page, Izzy Il Show. That Izzy Il Show, I Z Z Y IL I L L Show. That's on Instagram, and then I have my personal page, ilhd at I L L H D.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, and what we'll do, we'll put that and put that in a link on the bottom of this show's of this episode so people can they watch the show, they'll know where to go find you, and they can go ahead and click that link as well. But uh, I want you guys to hold on, don't leave yet. Um guys, we want to thank you. I don't know what in the world happened to Donde tonight. Thank you, yeah. And listen, he would have brought a whole different perspective to the table.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_06

He ri so we definitely have to do this again, yeah, and um hopefully we can do it face to face too. Okay, you know, so that would be great, and um please guys like and subscribe, um, hit the notification button for the truth ain't in us, and we will be back next week with a different conversation. Have a blessed night and thank you, Izzy, and thank you, Il.

SPEAKER_05

Thank you, thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06

All right, let us know when we're off air.