The Truth About Poppers & Pressure

Are people really doing what they want in the bedroom…
or what they feel pressured to do?

Tonight on The Truth Ain’t In Us, we’re having the conversation most people avoid.

From trending bedroom behaviors to the real truth about poppers, pressure, and partner expectations—we’re breaking down what’s actually going on behind closed doors.
Is it pleasure… or preparation?
Choice… or quiet pressure?
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What poppers are and why people use them
The influence of social media on bedroom trends
Pressure vs. consent — where’s the line?
The risks people don’t talk about
Relationship dynamics, roles, and misconceptions
Real talk about identity, labels, and community perceptions

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Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:46

Welcome, welcome everybody. Welcome to The Truth Ain't in Us. I'm Tanya Wilder. I'm your host. And we have a great show for you guys tonight. And I have a quick question for you all. Are people really doing what they want to do in the bedroom or what they feel pressure to do? Because tonight we're talking about pain, pleasure, and pressure. Okay. And welcome back, Truth Nation. And what I want to ask you guys to do at this moment is to please like and subscribe to our page. Hold on for me. Please like and subscribe to our page. And hit the notification button. If this is your first time here joining us tonight, please, please like, subscribe, and hit the notification button. And tell a friend, tell a family member. Because you liking and subscribing actually actually helps us. Okay. And we definitely need your help to grow the page and to grow the show. And so before I go any further, I'm getting ready to bring on my guest host, Don D, Donna for all Dons. Where is he? He was just on here. Okay. Is Don D here or is he out? You can put it in the private chat. Okay, so yeah, so he is out for right now. So I'm going to keep the show going, guys. So today is Wednesday, hump day, right? And today has been a day and a half for me. I actually had to go to court for a situation that happened a year ago. And I'm not going to get into it tonight. All about that. That'll be another, there's another time and place for all of that. But we did settle in court where we got paid. Which is good. It probably wasn't what I was hoping for because I was expecting more. But at the end of the day, we do feel vindicated. I would say that. But it's a whole nother show for me to get into that, and I will later, sometime. But for right now, we're going to keep it moving. I hope you guys are having a great, great week. I want to also send some shout outs. My girlfriend, it's her birthday today. Happy birthday, Angela. She has turned 60 today. A huge milestone. And she looks great. She doesn't look 60. 60 looks good on her. She's wearing it well. And I hope she has had a wonderful, wonderful birthday. I will get up with her either this weekend or Friday. We'll either do breakfast, lunch, something. Definitely be taking her out for her birthday. And I know she has a trip planned for, I think she's going to Jamaica with a group of friends. And I told you guys I don't do the girls' trip. So I'm not going. I'm not attending. But I wish them all well. I hope they have a great time. And this pimple right here is really taking me out. I rarely get pimples, but yeah, I got one right now. And I don't know if Donde is going to be joining us tonight or not, but he's having some difficulties with his internet. It's not even the internet. I just think, well, it is and it isn't. It has to do with safari or something like that. But hopefully by next week we will have all of that worked out for him. Okay. And I don't know how many of you are in the chat. If you have some time to go in the chat and just let us know where you're watching from, what state, what city you're actually watching from. And waiting, what is it saying? Waiting for Don D to stay on. Five minutes before I let him in. Okay. Okay. Yep. So he's having some issues for sure. But that's not gonna stop the show. We're gonna keep it going. And I don't know. Can I see any of the chats here? Let me see if I can see any of the chats. Okay. Can't get into it right now, but that's okay. Alright, guys. So we're gonna keep it going. Um Don D is probably he's he's pissed off by it right now because he can because he cannot get in. He is definitely having a hissy fit. And I don't know if it's you know, ever since he went to Miami, he has never been able to get back on. Miami actually took him out, guys. Miami took him out, okay. But um, it's all good, and I do not have time for mess. People, I am live, my show is live, and I have people calling me, and I can't get on right now, so anyways, I'm gonna keep it going, and we're gonna go ahead and move on to hot topics. And the first hot topics before we show anything, um, I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with the Stefan Diggs trial, but it has been crazy, crazy. I want you guys to take a look and then we're gonna get into it.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Is there a difference between the text messages that you provided to the denim police of the text messages that uh are here? Yes, and uh what is that difference?

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Um I deleted that and put that. And I'm running that page right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

And why did you delete those uh phrases when you provided those text messages to the death place?

SPEAKER_02 8:08

When I was abused in my previous relationship, when I would say the objections to stay.

SPEAKER_07 8:30

Oh my god. Okay, she about to take me all the way out. Like, listen, she deleted a message, and I guess because she didn't want them to see that she had planned on ruining this man's life with lies. And I feel like she was in love with this man, and he turned her down. I believe it just was a sex thing. At the end of the day, it was a sex thing. And Don Di, are you there? You see me?

SPEAKER_03 9:28

No, we can't see you, but we can hear you. I can see myself. I don't understand. Like, I don't understand what's going on. Well, but look, I love everybody. I don't know what's going on. Listen, man, I don't know, but you're doing a great job. Let's go.

SPEAKER_07 9:42

So, Stefan Diggs. Um, I feel like this woman got jealous because he stopped the relationship, the sexual relationship, because it was all about sex. And I believe she fell in love with him. She wanted him, and he didn't want her. And at the end of the day, she wanted to ruin his life, she wanted to um get paid. And two things I want to say about this. Number one, you should, and this is for Stefan Diggs. I hope this taught him a lesson about screwing your employees. Okay? Because he should have never, never engaged in a sexual relationship with an employee. That's number one. Number two. I can't even say anymore it's the white women that's taken down these brothers. It's the sisters, too. At the end of the day, I can't even defend the women, the black women, nor the white women at this point. And I think these men need to start finding women who are equally yoked with them instead of looking at the body, instead of, you know, it's all about the looks, it's all about the body. It needs to be more than that. And that brings me to move on to Charleston White. Because I never I I I didn't like Charleston White, but now I'm looking at this man a little bit differently. And he's making a whole lot of sense. Let's let's let's play what Charleston White is talking about here.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

I'm not banning with no black man that got a problem with his baby mama. I'm not banning with no black man that ain't got no control over his legacy. He can't go change the baby last name and get his name put on the birth certificate. I'm not banning with that nigga. Okay. I'm not banning with no nigga that ain't birthed the babies, nigga, from all stages. You niggas gotta go fix what's in the mirror. When you come out the mirror, look around the house and see what needs to be fixed, nigga. When last time you fixed something in the house and didn't have to call nobody to do it? When did you and your son, you and your cousin, you and your brother went up there and fixed the toilet, fixed the roof? Cut the neighbor, cut everybody grass. When have you niggas done that? Arabics do it. When a nigga go to jail, when do you niggas bring a nigga to jail and say, say, our brother is weak? Let's teach him how to be strong. Say, you go show him the punch combination. You go throw him self-defense. Nigga, to the end, don't tell me about bandy with no nigga. You know why? You hate your baby mama. She hates you. How we gonna get together and the two people who made a seed can't even come together. Nigga, I don't trust you. So, what you think we need to do as a community to change that?

SPEAKER_07 12:51

This is the Amen corner over here. Okay? Can I get an Amen hallelujah? He spoke nothing but truth. He spoke nothing about truth. Like if you can't have a good relationship with your baby mama, okay, and this goes back to, before I get into that, this goes back to me saying on another show how you know how can you have a relationship as a man with another man, your your friends, and your friends supporting you, not taking care of your kids, not paying child support, um, not doing right by your child's mother, and then just looking the other way. It's about accountability at the end of the day, and that's what Charleston White is saying. And he cannot be your friend, stand with you if you're doing wrong, if you don't have a relationship and not willing to fix it with your baby mama. Now, I don't know how you guys feel about that, but I'm gonna bring my guest on right now, since I don't have Don D here. Let me go ahead and introduce Nappy Boy.

SPEAKER_05 14:22

What's up?

SPEAKER_07 14:22

Welcome to the show, and please, please let the people know who you are. Welcome to the truth ain't in us.

SPEAKER_06 14:29

How y'all doing? How y'all doing? Um, my name is my name is Cameron Terrain, but uh people here in Atlanta, Georgia and people that are part of the LGBT, the black LGBT community all over the world know me as Nappy Boy. I'm the face, uh one of the uh popular faces of Gay Magazine, which is an um all black um LGBT uh social media and magazine media outlet here in Atlanta, Georgia. Um basically we spread positive and we basically inform the LGBT and also just people in general of the black LGBT uh news and um everything that's going on when it comes regarding us. Um and we have been around for the past 10 years, and we've been increasing and popularity has been increasing so far. And yeah, I'm happy to be here and I appreciate you, Tanya and Dundee. I know he's not here at the moment, but I appreciate y'all uh allowing me to be in this space with y'all.

SPEAKER_07 15:26

Well, thank you for joining us tonight. Um I gotta ask, how did you get that name Nappy Boy? Where did that name come from?

SPEAKER_06 15:35

So the name Napy Boy came because I used to have like real long hair, like it used to be to my shoulder, and it was real, huh? Was it dreads? Well, no, so look, I had a whole different, I had a whole stage. So I had locks, then I had braids, and I cut it off, and then I grew my hair back again, where it was with braids, and I cut it off, and then I did the locks again. So yes, I had everything uh uh under the sun. But um, I got the name because I used to always get my hair done. So my father, he's a uh entrepreneur, he's a barber, and he used to split his building with a um a hair saline, and my other aunties, their hair, their hair stylist too. So I used to always go there to get my hair done. And when I used to walk in, it was like, oh, here come big head or here come nappy head, because I was in the butt um, you know, I it was all uh can I cut some hair? Yes, absolutely be yourself. Okay, it's all shits and giggles and stuff like that. And um, my cousin also worked there too, and she used to always bring my hair and then she sat me down, was like, um, you know, when we say nappy head and call you big hair, you know, we just playing about uh we know we just mess with you. I was like, Yeah, and she basically went to this whole um explaining basically how beautiful black hair is, and you know, society has always made it seem like just because you have nappy hair, it's something to be ashamed of. And she was just um sitting down, just explain to me like how great our hair is. We're the only ones where our hair grows up towards the sun. You can do which and every way with it, and everybody wish they had hair like us. And absolutely, he basically just embraced my blackness and my hair. So um when I started to get more into my blackness when I was in high school and in the college, um, I just started to embrace more of it, and um, I just loved it. And it's in the sense of me saying that I'm happy to be nappy, and that's when I do that. And um, I was just like, yo, I'm just be nappy boy. And then my homeboy was like, Hey, yo, instead of putting N-A-P-P-Y, because you know why you got a Y your name, you know, people ask me questions, but you know, it ain't no question mark, put an I because it's all I's and there's no Y's.

SPEAKER_07 17:36

Okay, okay, I like that. Yeah, yeah, is it it takes the negative um conversation off of it? Basically, yes, you know, so I like that. I like that. So, guys, if you're just joining us, we're sitting down with Nappy Boy, and tonight's conversation, I want to start off really talking. Well, before we even get into tonight's show, okay. What do you think about the Stefan Diggs trial?

SPEAKER_06 18:07

So I've been seeing the Stephon Diggs. I'm noticing like, and I'm I'm not defending this brother because I don't know this brother at all, but I'm noticing once someone becomes popular, whether in a good relationship or not with a woman or just their popular in their brand, I've noticed a lot of negative stuff always comes towards us, specifically us black men. Um, I'm not excusing any of the things that he has probably done in the past, but I always see him in some shit. Um, but this situation is kind of weird, um, because it's is like you said before, I kind of agree with you that he most definitely was a uh he most definitely was um seemed like he was a little fast back in the day, which is nothing wrong with it. He's very attractive. Um and I'm sure he utilized that to you know get whatever he wanted, whatever. And I and I've known a lot of men, including myself, when we were younger reutilized that to get what we want and whatever. Um but it's coming off a little weird. And one thing that I hate to see is that the fact that he probably did that and she probably, like you said, fell in love with him, or probably you know, wanted something more than what he was providing. And when he didn't provide that, the worst thing, I mean, obviously, she's decided to flip the script, and then he's already been he's already been accused of abuse and being aggressive, and only that he a black male, so obviously they're gonna uh you know that's synopsis. So, or people think it's synopsis. So I it comes, it's coming off like her heart was broken, and she's trying to get her get back because that video of her dancing, maybe your ass. Why why are you dancing? Exactly. Get your homegirls a jump homie, or you should have left and kept it pushing, but you never know, because at the same time, I know when it comes to certain situations, especially when it comes to women, um, and then no, including us men, that sometimes we don't know how to deal with specific situations. So I don't want to ever say that she's lying or ever say she's telling the truth.

SPEAKER_07 19:59

But I think she's making it bad for the women that tell the truth, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And for women that come forward who were actually assaulted or abused, and also we all see that she's lying because she's trying to play the victim. She was asked a specific question on why kicked you off. I I can't even get too happy.

SPEAKER_06 20:26

I thought we can still stay on, we can hear you, brother.

SPEAKER_07 20:28

You know, um I think I I think that her deleting that message, she knew what she was doing. Yeah, she didn't want that to be seen because that message right there alone takes away everything she said. Because now you you know what I'm saying? Like you're gonna teach him a lesson, you're gonna you're gonna destroy him.

SPEAKER_06 20:54

Exactly. And then only that, another thing is that like I feel as though Cardi is always the one that's getting like hit below the uh is is always getting attached to him, and she might be jealous with that relationship. And not only that, Cardi is being successful, she just came from a popular tour. She brought everybody and their mama outside, so that's the best way to get back at somebody is somebody that you're sleeping with, and not only that, but the father of my child, regardless if they get together or not. She's gonna be connected to and isn't her last name, Smalllet. What'd you say?

SPEAKER_07 21:26

Her last name is Smallett, Smallet, yes, you know. So that right there, like put me. I was like, hold on, wait a minute. Are they related?

SPEAKER_06 21:34

No, but you talk about Jesse. I don't know how to do that. That's the homie. That's the homie. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_07 21:41

Jesse lied. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I don't believe Jesse.

SPEAKER_06 21:46

He was, but it's all love with him, and it was a situation that happened, and you know, us black folk, we don't forget. But at the same time, we didn't learn how to forgive, y'all. Because ain't nobody, no one was killed. Nobody was killed, but no. Why I do understand why people are upset about the situation because, like you said, the same situation with her, it can mess up situations where it actually happens, where somebody actually is abused or somebody is actually racially discriminated. But but uh you ain't gonna talk about my boy.

SPEAKER_07 22:15

And that could have been the reason why he got cut from the team, possibly, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 22:21

So, yeah, because that can mess up money exactly.

SPEAKER_07 22:25

And I mean, two wrongs don't make a right at the end of the day, but we're gonna keep removing and Charleston White now.

SPEAKER_06 22:34

Charleston White, he be one thing about me is that like I can resp I I always I'm I'm I'm always a listener for anybody now. He's been known for just saying a lot of aggressive things and a lot of stuff that kind of I don't agree with, especially when he went to an A, was talking hella cash to them students, yes, thorn doubt. I was like, brother, I understand some of the stuff that you be saying, but it's a certain way that you talk to people, especially when it comes to younger generation. But in this situation, I agree with him uh 100%.

SPEAKER_07 23:05

And then just the fact, uh-huh. I think he be saying things for clickbait too.

SPEAKER_06 23:09

He does, he does. I mean, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, yeah, it's the way the the way the the world is right now, and it works for him because obviously that's how he gets his money and that's how he keeps getting the book, but sometimes it kind of comes off a little bit like ignited sometimes. But in this situation, I agree with him, and as you can see, the brothers who was in there they got in their feelings. One dude and stood up and everything, and it was like obviously he's pinching the nerve because he's probably talking about obviously, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because but he was talking, he was speaking the truth, and I think that's so.

SPEAKER_07 23:40

Here's what I like about what he said the most like, how can I be friends with you when you can't even support your baby mama? Yeah, yes, you know what I'm saying, yes, and a lot of men they like to degrade their baby mamas, you know.

SPEAKER_06 24:02

We know 50 cent is big on that, and that and as a he degraded a whole bunch of women in his life, and then you you know what's funny is it's so weird that that was considered cool growing up. Like I used to, and I still hear that today. It's folks in their 30s and their 40s that still talking about they baby mama, this they baby mama, that's like bruh. Like at the end of the day, it was one point where you love this person, you loved them exactly. They loved her, you made a child, and I would never understand somebody, and this includes women too, but I'll never understand a brother who would disrespect somebody who he made a creation, uh made a child with, regardless if you got ill intentions or not. And then not only that, what I love about um what the brother said, Mr. Charles, what was his name again? Charleston. Charles White. Charles White. Well, he stayed with the Charleston White, I'm sorry, Charles White. Charleston White, yes, I want to make sure I say his name right. Um, the fact that you can't be a man, regardless of how your feelings are. Think about the child, my brother. You can't go back and you can't apologize just to make life easier for you. But the best thing you can do is complain and bitch about her to your homies. That's a problem. Be a man, since we always talk about being tough.

SPEAKER_07 25:08

Yeah, but a lot of these men, they sit back and they accept what their friends are saying, they laugh about it, you know, and they support them. Yep, just like how everybody came out and everybody wanna call Megan the Stallion a hoe.

SPEAKER_06 25:24

Yeah, like that was so well made. Does anybody know who that dude was before Megan? Megan put him in.

SPEAKER_07 25:31

Nigga, you can I did I didn't know who the hell he was. Megan made him.

SPEAKER_06 25:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 25:36

Okay, and a lot of people are not gonna like this, like what I'm about to say, but at the end of the day, I feel like a lot of these men now, when they want their careers to excel, they get with a bad bitch. Of course, okay, the bad bitch. Yeah, and the one that's on top, whether it's in reality TV, whether it's in the music industry, whatever. I feel like, yeah, and some of them don't even like these women, but they get with them because of the status and where it's gonna take their career.

SPEAKER_06 26:12

Right. And then the ones who out there sucking homie dick, like, y'all ain't no better. Because my thing is like, y'all, it's just so weird to me, like how like, and I what really irritates me that I keep seeing the free Tory comments. Free Tory, free Tory. Free Tory, yep. It's like those are first of all, let's stop calling them men because they're not men. They some they they some mark-ass niggas. You remember that term?

unknown 26:36

Ah!

SPEAKER_06 26:37

They corny, they mean little boys, okay? That wish they had Megan. That's the problem. They want somebody, they want a black woman like Megan, but they know they can't get it, so they gotta complain and they gotta bitch about her. So just just to you know, to make themselves feel good. But child, please. Megan and Aquarius, too. She don't care. She out here balling. She just uh bought a Popeyes a few months ago. Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 26:57

And I'm gonna eat that damn chicken too.

SPEAKER_06 26:59

Me too. Red beans and rice.

SPEAKER_07 27:03

Okay, that's right. Love Megan the Stallion. I love Cardi B. Yes, um, you know, and we just gotta. I think black men, we just need to do better.

SPEAKER_06 27:17

We do, we do, and we and like he said, we need to come together. Um, and no disrespect for disrespect to the black woman, but he was like, This hasn't this, we don't need to talk. The black woman don't need to be a part of this. Us black men need to come together and have a conversation, and we just sit and have this conversation with ourselves or why we're accepting this in today's society. Just because it was cool back in the day don't mean it's cool now, because it never was just accepting.

SPEAKER_07 27:41

It wasn't exactly. You said a mouthful when you said that. Absolutely. So we're gonna get into tonight's show. Come on, uh, yes, and it's just not about poppers, but we're gonna start off talking about what exactly is poppers.

SPEAKER_06 27:58

Is poppers, okay? Let's talk about sexy. So, to my knowledge, because um, so in the LGBT in the gay community, poppers is basically it's this is a liquid that people use basically, um, and they sniff it normally during um sexual encounters, and the person who's we call a bottom, and that's a that's the catcher, the person who's taking the penis. Okay, normally what it does, it gives them a nice euphoria, a nice feeling, and relaxation, or just you know, feeling good. And not only that, it releases and it uh relaxes the muscle. So basically, if it's like this, what you it open that that that that hole up a little bit, okay? So it makes it easier for the top to go in and etc, etc. Especially somebody who has like, you know, is big down there, it helps them out. But also, I know people who actually um actually recently just learned this that some people who might not get penetrated also take it just for a sense of euphoria, they might do it while they're masturbating, or they might just do it while they probably like um pleasuring the other person. So it's a sense of euphoria and it's also a way for the other person to relax and to loosen up and muscle-wise.

SPEAKER_07 29:07

So, do you think poppers are really becoming more popular in the heterosexual community as well as the you know, as it is in the gay community? I don't know, I was gonna ask you that. Well, I'm just I'm I'm just learning about it and uh yes, and didn't know what it was, and um from my understanding, and just speaking to someone who um was about to actually try it, and they're heterosexual in a heterosexual relationship, and maybe they wanted to like do the backdoor thing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and their thing was oh, after they started reading about it, well, someone died from this, you know? Yeah, so and I think it was a uh a journalist, a very famous journalist out of LA that passed away from it. But I don't know like what happened, so I can't really speak on it.

SPEAKER_06 30:04

So I do know I I'm still a little ignorant on it too, but I do know it's I mean, one, it's not necessarily a natural thing to do. Uh it's some consider it a drug in a sense, but it's not in a sensible drug like meth or cocaine or something like that. But it can be dangerous if taken uh not properly, because one, you keep sniffing it up, your body's not getting the uh the proper oxygen that it needs to do. So you can mess around and get lightheaded, you can get dizzy. And if you're taking other medicines, as in like somebody in a heterosexual community or even a gay community, taking like Viagra or uh anything of something that might enhance that um sexual experience, and you taking the poppers, sometimes you can't mix the two, and it can cause you to have low blood sugar, low blood sugar levels, and yes, a whole bunch of stuff that can go into it. Now, once I want I don't want to scare anybody and say that don't do it, but I always encourage people if they decide to do things uh when it comes to themselves or anything with a sexual partner is to always do your research and um have that conversation with that person. But you know, anything too much of anything can be dangerous, of course, of course.

SPEAKER_07 31:09

Yes, me drinking too much caffeine can be dangerous too. Exactly. So absolutely. So that leads me to ask you this because you you just brought up something very interesting. Top and bottom. Yes. So who decides who's the top and who's the bottom? Like, how do you make that decision? So you talk about like a well, like let's just say you met someone, okay? Let me just give you a scenario. So you meet someone, you start kicking it, and y'all get into a relationship. So how do you decide who's doing what?

SPEAKER_06 31:50

So I'll say through my experience, normally I don't really like having those. Normally, I that's not really a conversation that I normally have with people. It probably is something that should happen, so you can like stop what you know, so people can not waste, so you won't have to waste your time with folk. But normally in my situations, normally if I find somebody attractive and we bond and we kicking it and we just so happen to do something, normally we find out while we in the bedroom. And normally I find out based off of how different people move and stuff like that. And that normally that makes that decision. It's funny, I just made a post because I'm a top. Um, I've never bought them before, but that does not mean I'm not afraid of doing it, but I've just never needed to do it. Um, but normally in situations where you normally kissing and then you probably touching a butthole and whatever, and somebody pushes you off, or what I normally do is I I always give attention to that.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 32:43

Now, if somebody gives if I were to be kissing on them and I get attention to the penis in my head, and that person's head is gonna be like, oh, okay, well, he probably wants this or whatever. Um, but normally it's not a conversation, which is not the best way to do it, but that's normally how I do it.

SPEAKER_07 32:58

Because suppose both of you are tops, right? Tops, yes. Like, how is that gonna work out?

SPEAKER_06 33:03

And and that has happened, that has happened, and it's funny. Um, and it's always in my situation, it's always any when it laughs like, damn, we both tops, da da da. So now what we gonna do? And then normally they'd be like, oh, let's jerk off or whatever, let's play with each other. But one thing about me, I take pleasure in pleasuring the other person, and this is a true story. I ain't lying, I'm not exaggerating, and that's why I made a post is I always attract tops. They are tops until you make them feel comfortable because my tongue gets to working, and then you come into a whole different story, they start reaching back, they be like, Yeah, they start reaching back, and I don't even I don't even question it. They just start putting my my dick in there, and I'm just like, okay, and then whoa, I guess you verse tonight. So you be too so you turn them out. That's what you said. I have fun with my tops, and I'm sure they have fun with me. Because I'm special, but normally it normally I'm sure it is a conversation, um, but it has to be the like of course you don't want to just walk up to somebody like, hey, how you doing? I'm good. Where you from? I'm from North Carolina, da da da. Oh, you a top of bottom? Like, whoa. You know what I'm saying? But of course, like recently I did um, I was talking to uh I met somebody recently, and we've been talking on the phone. I think after the third conversation, um, we kind of was saying hints of stuff, and then he he asked me, um, I think I made a comment, but I didn't necessarily say like I'm a top. I just be like, oh, you know, because this this this did good and da-da-da. And he was like, Oh, you a top? I was like, Yeah. He was like, dang. I said, Why? And I'm a top two. And I was like, oh, well shoot. So it's it's but still, we're still cool, we don't have no problem. But it's it's a conversation that should have, but I feel like out of respect for the person, and it and for it to not be focused on sex completely, um, it's a conversation you have later on, any beginning-ish. But I will say that's probably the one of the reasons why I'm single, because cops always wanna cuff me.

SPEAKER_07 35:07

So that makes me want to ask this question. Come on. So if they let's just say, um, how do I I want to put this?

SPEAKER_06 35:23

Take a time.

SPEAKER_07 35:24

So uh uh this is what I'll say or ask the person that's is the person that's the um top more masculine than the person that's the bottom?

SPEAKER_06 35:38

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

SPEAKER_07 35:39

Uh no, so that has nothing to okay, so because I've seen in some gay relationships, um one person may be a little bit more feminine than the other. So I just automatically assume that that's the that's the bottom.

SPEAKER_06 35:56

So stereotypically, yes, that normally is a thing. Like, you know, when you think of uh heteronorms, um normally the more um feminine man, male is the one who's receiving it in the more masculine one. But like I said, trust and believe. And this is why I always be talking to girls when they tell me, Oh, I know he's gay, that this is that because he do this, that-daugh. I said, baby, it'd be the ones that be the most gangster in the streets that blood is dick. Okay, and they love, they be out here throwing it back. So that's why I always encourage people to like don't feed into those stereotypes because one thing about us gay men is that we are, and one thing that I'm blessed about being a gay man is that I'm able to express myself any way I want to, and we don't live into those heteronorms, and then I also try to encourage women to do the same, and I encourage men, heterosexual men to do the same because when we do that, we put ourselves in the box and we can't explore our sexual desires, and then that's why we end up in relationships that we don't want, we end up in divorces, we end up in breakups because we put ourselves in this box. But stereotypically, normally, yes, but it's been situations where the masculine one was actually because I know some very flamboyant and very um feminine um tops, even ones that be out here with the nails in the in the in the hair, go on Twitter, go on X. It's literally uh very masculine men who literally be taking pee pee from like you know, trans women, and you know the normally the trans women are very very feminine, and then they normally have a very masculine male, a bisexual male, and he's out here taking pee-pee.

SPEAKER_07 37:30

So if you're just joining us, guys, I'm sitting down with Nappy Boy, and you are watching The Truth Ain't in Us, and we're having a conversation, just a regular conversation about the gay community and different things. So you brought up um the trans community, yes. So I have cousins that uh that's gay, and they're saying that you know there's some type of beef between the trans and the gays. Like that's what I want to know from you. Like, like, like how do you guys do you is there any type of um disconnect, or do you do you all get along and support each other?

SPEAKER_06 38:23

I think um what I know is that there's no beef because we're all community, we're all okay. Um, especially when it comes to us in gay magazine, we support everybody. But I do think that there is a disconnect between uh cis gender men, and that's cis gender gay men like myself, born naturally, you know, men, and then there's uh trans men are trans woman, and I think the disconnect is just ignorance on the gay male side when it comes to the LG, the two when it comes to the trans community. And I think sometimes you because you got you got ignorant people in both communities, yes, and I think that's and and heterosexual communities as well, so and in in in today's society, everybody who is ignorant, who is uh um just people who just aren't the positive people, those are ones who get the most attention, and those are people that are displayed in that those people that that's the people that we see on like the uh social media, the share rooms and talking cash. Now, I will say, um, because I interview different people all the time, and I interview, I had the pleasure of interviewing Ts Madison. Um, and they people, the the ladies that are a part of the trans women um community, they do come to me and say that they don't feel protected when it comes to cisgender gay men like myself, and it is a separation. And I I hate that when it comes to people in my community that don't support another minority group like them, and that's the word I should have used instead of beef, I think. Yeah, yeah, it's all good. That's all good. Um, but I really think it's just a misunderstanding, it's just ignorance. But that's why you have people like me, that's why you have gay magazine, and that's why you have people like T uh T.S. Manson to educate people, whether they're by uh gay um or heterosexual, to you know, because we here the thing is that like we're here to educate everybody and to have a conversation, and um, but it's no beef between the two. But I do encourage my cisgender um black gay men and or are white to uh fight for these trans women and these trans men because those same trans men and some them same trans women be fighting for us all the time. And I also encourage black heterosexual women and men to do the exact same thing because when I was in George Floyd was marching, when when we was going through that police brutality stuff, it was nothing but us, it was nothing but trans women out there. Um Hope Zale was out there um on the mic and defending black men, black gay men, and they don't get to love back. So I always encourage my for sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_07 40:56

Now, do you feel like when it comes to black women, the trans, the trans community, there's definitely beef. I'm gonna use the word beef on that one. It's definitely there's definitely some beef. And not because we don't support trans women. Um I I feel it's more so, and it's not all trans women, I'm gonna say, that may feel this way. Um, and I think it's just certain subjects that become a little tense. Um, and I'm talking about whether or not um the person is gay or not. Or not even that, like you know, they can't have babies. Or, you know, you know, so that has been a big topic, and I think like Jess um she said she lost a lot of deals for making that statement.

SPEAKER_06 42:07

Jess Hilarious?

SPEAKER_07 42:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 42:09

So the situation with that was like the thing with Jess Hilarious is that and just people in general, they don't lead with what's the word. It seemed like it's an it's always an attack. It's not a thing of like or a question, it's not like you're trying to understand, it's not a thing of understanding, it's a thing of like, oh no, that's it, that uh like cut clothes, whatever. Um, because I do know trans women, I do know so trans men who actually are able to you know have kids or whatever. Um, more specifically trans men, and that was our women who transition to to men.

SPEAKER_07 42:44

Oh, because I was gonna done because I was gonna say, hold on now. Yeah, I was gonna say, wait a minute now. Okay, okay, okay. So trans men women, trans women, well that well no, women and trans men.

SPEAKER_06 42:58

So basically, trans men is a is a is basically a a woman who transitioned into okay.

SPEAKER_07 43:02

So I'm saying it backwards, gotcha.

SPEAKER_06 43:04

Okay, they're able to get pregnant, and etc. Um, and I think the situation with Jess Hilarious was that like I don't even think that wasn't even the topic of discussion, and they were talking about something completely different, and it was like boom, out of nowhere, she just mentioned that. And then you notice the woman was like, Oh, okay, but you know, this is that and a third. It's kind of like me and you talking about almond joys, and then it was like, Well, regardless, I love pizza.

unknown 43:26

Huh?

SPEAKER_06 43:27

Like, girl, what you talking about? Like, we're not even discussing that, and then only that, um, at least to my knowledge, I know that when it comes to her situation with her and T.S. Madison, I don't know who started what first, but I know for a certain T.S. Madison is always the woman to actually want to have a conversation, want to have a sit down conversation with this person. And um, I don't know if you ever watch a podcast, Don't Call Me White Girl Mona. I love her to death. Shout around, she in Aquarius. But I know she just communicated and saying that TS Madison reached out to her to be the liaison between her and um Jess Lair's. Have a conversation. And just layer's at least to my knowledge, she just didn't want to have that conversation. And it was always an attack. And I will say, T.S. Madison didn't help the situation by calling her a man. And it's because she's not a man. Yeah, yeah. And I think like that's that's rude and disrespectful.

SPEAKER_07 44:15

And she don't even, and she doesn't look like a man, she's a beautiful black woman.

SPEAKER_06 44:18

Yeah, she is most.

SPEAKER_07 44:29

And I don't want to seem like I'm just taken up for Jess, but you gotta understand where she's coming from too. I understand, most definitely.

SPEAKER_06 44:38

You know what I'm saying? Because like you said, as a black woman, just being a woman in general, yeah, and always being teared down, take the path. And had to fight. Yeah. And then I understand when it comes to black women and women in general who want to be recognized as a woman, a cisgender woman, for winning an award or doing this, that, and a third, or uh reaching these high um accolades. And I understand that, and we should respect that most definitely. And then, but I think the disconnect is that like Tiaz Madison or somebody who's popular, or even a trans woman, they're not saying that they don't that they don't respect that. If anything, they they're emulating exactly what they say. Yes. If anything, we the most respectful uh motherfuckers when it comes to the black woman. We we we get a lot of inspiration from y'all, you know. Of course, yes, and in the same vice versa. So, and like before, I think the issue is that like the people who are now because I did see it was a trans woman, I forgot who it was, but she was going on talking about some black women don't own periods, and da da da. I was like, yo, like that's she's yeah, just yeah, but if you know this, push it to the side that was pushed, that's that's the video that was.

SPEAKER_07 45:41

And it could have been clickbait, clickbait, you know what I'm saying? She just wanted to get her name or something out there. So when it comes to now, some I don't know if it was T S. Madison that said this or not, or somebody else. Um, no, I think it was oh my god, what's his name? It was at the tip of my tongue. Um, Carlos King just interviewed him a month ago. Um, Magic Johnson's son.

SPEAKER_06 46:11

Matthew Johnson.

SPEAKER_07 46:12

EJ, is it EJ Johnson?

SPEAKER_06 46:15

I think so. Well, what was the situation?

SPEAKER_07 46:19

So he was saying that he only dates straight men.

SPEAKER_06 46:23

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_07 46:25

And I'm I'm just like uh if a I'm sorry, but if if I was to date a woman, I'm gay. Regardless. You know what I'm saying? And either I can go both ways or I can just be gay, right? So my thing is if you're dating a man, he can't be straight.

SPEAKER_06 46:44

And I agree. I think he's either gay or he's bisexual because exactly none against the the brother, but if you're dating straight men, obviously he's he they they're not straight, baby. Because none against you and none against that, but obviously it's it's we know that you're a man and you're you know, you do whatever. Um, but that they aren't well in that situation, I at least in my opinion, that's a male attracted to another male, whether it's bisexual or gay. Now it is an argument that um, because I know it was another situation where um T.S. Madison spoke and said that she dates or normally used to mess around with straight men as well. And what she was saying was that the reason why she would consider it a straight male is because the re um obviously T.S. Madison looks like a black woman, and that's what she's attracted to. Versus somebody who's a excuse me. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 47:38

I know I'm gonna catch a lot of flack for this.

SPEAKER_05 47:40

No, no, speaking on, speak your mind.

SPEAKER_07 47:42

But I understand you want you're you're you're seen as a woman now, and I respect that at the end of the day, right? But you still have all the anatomy, right? So if you're dating, if you're saying it's a straight man, to me, he's still not a straight man, he's still not straight. That's just in my that's the way I see it.

SPEAKER_06 48:11

No, you're not seeing your opinion, most definitely.

SPEAKER_07 48:12

Yeah, that's just the way I see it. And yes, T.S. Madison, I I love her. I think she's a beautiful person, a beautiful woman. And but with that statement, I just don't agree with her.

SPEAKER_06 48:26

Yeah, and I understand why you wouldn't. And then, but the thing is that like it's okay to have that disagreement. And I think exactly I think if people don't respect not having a uh um a disagreement with somebody because it's still it can still be love there, and then not only that, I feel as though like that's the big thing that's going on, is that the the the male is the it seems as though like we would be trying to fight over the same guy, and it's my thing. I don't really think you fight over the same dude. Yeah, I feel like the one the guy who was actually attracted to the actual cisgender woman, they was you have those the ones who exactly woman, you have those, and the ones who's attracted to both you have those. Um, so I think it's just a a thing that we that people are just trying to stir up just to keep us distracted, and I and I've and maybe divide us, and maybe divide us, yes, and exactly. And I feel like they use that, and I'm not even feeling like they do use that um to basically, like you said, separate us, and that is on some real shit. I feel like that's one of the reasons why we had some of these votes split up when it comes to uh the presidential election, because that's one of the things that the president Donald Trump was focused on, and why he was focused on that because that's all the stuff that we was focused on, and that's why I always try to encourage folks. Like, we got bigger and better things to be worried about. Y'all can't worry about everybody's having sex with who what like they just goddamn gutted the um voters' rights act three or four days ago, like we need to be talking about that absolutely. We need to be encouraging folk to go in these voting polls and fighting for us and making sure that we get the right people in these legislation offices so we can have a balance. So the president that is actually trying to separate us to check and balance him and the team.

SPEAKER_07 50:11

But the people who have the money, the power, the connections to walk into these rooms to make changes, they're not doing it. They're not doing it. Yeah, what is Oprah doing?

SPEAKER_06 50:26

I hear what you mean.

SPEAKER_07 50:28

What's Gail? I hear what's Gail talking about?

SPEAKER_06 50:31

I hear what you say. I I hear you, I hear you most definitely, most definitely. But I and but but another thing is that like we can't keep on relying on these these folk because if you realize yes, they are rich and they are powerful, but at the same time, the voice of the people is even powerful, it's if if not more powerful than that one individual. And I always say that, and and it's proven that it's more powerful than that, because obviously the reason why they keep messing around and going against the constitution and making sure that we don't they can discriminate us um in these next elections in November is because they know how powerful when we come together as black people. I agree. When we come together as black people and we come regardless of your sexual orientation or whatever, when we come together, it can make an impact.

SPEAKER_07 51:11

And that's what they can influence, they they have they can, but that's the problem. They have that but that's a good thing, too. I think sometimes it can be a good thing at the end of the day because I'm sure they have white people that support them, you know what I'm saying? They just didn't become millionaires just based off of black people, right? You know what I'm saying? So other nationality um that believe in them, that love them, that support them, and that will listen to their and their voice, their opinions. So I think that they can make a difference.

SPEAKER_06 51:47

No, no, they both think they can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I like I always say I always encourage people, especially my people, to go and read a book, go on the internet. You got it right here. Do your research. Let's not rely on to be our our our uh our gods and stuff like that. But yeah, you have a brain and you can say, for example, I love this woman down, she's part of the biggest selling girl group of all time, but she's most definitely chili. Oh, but that was very disappointing hearing that. But that ain't got nothing to do with what my decision and stuff like that. I'm still I still research, I still do what I need to do, and I because I have a mind of my own. And the problem is today people don't have a mind of their own, they don't do their research, they just see a thing and they keep it pushing.

SPEAKER_07 52:28

And chili should have stood on business. If you're gonna own it, own it. Don't backpedal now that you now that you've been called out. Stand on business, stand ten toes down and own it.

SPEAKER_06 52:40

And if I was a part of her, oh go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_07 52:42

I think people would have respected that more. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 52:46

But also, I actually feel like they probably would have respected it, but I feel like people will still probably attack her because I noticed when it comes to black women having different um different ideas, uh, ideal uh idealizations and stuff like that. Um the black woman is always attacked when it comes to that. Because if you notice the the snoot dogs, the walkers, the the nellys, we done went out and went and talked about their asses for three days, and after that, we don't give a f because we got a whole show with a shiny and we don't even care.

SPEAKER_07 53:13

And now I agree. Why hasn't his shows been canceled? Exactly at the end of the day. Like I'm not gonna support him, but I'm just saying his shit should be canceled too, right?

SPEAKER_06 53:26

But but like I said, I made a video recently, but I was like, So if you did make that mistake, um, it was a mistake, but we have midterm elections, and this is your way to push and it's and come back from that. I like that from that.

SPEAKER_07 53:41

I love that.

SPEAKER_06 53:42

And if you don't utilize your platform, utilize your platform, like you said as a celebrity to encourage people to vote in this new legislat in this new upcoming midterm elections. And I even tell I was like, Chili, this is your time to come. Come on, you about to go on tour. Make sure you tell these folk here in Atlanta to go out and vote because that's the this is I feel as though this is more important than the actual presidential election, and this is your way, including the Hispanic and the Latino community, the ones who was I will vote for Donald Trump, get your asses in the pose. Because that same woman who was singing, I don't know if you heard, but her dad got um deported back to Mexico and she exactly, exactly, but it's your time.

SPEAKER_07 54:18

But he told everybody what he was gonna do, they just didn't believe it. Okay, so now it's time for our segment, the truth bomb segment. Okay, before we go. So let's drop that bomb, baby. All right, so this little segment basically I'm gonna ask you a few some questions. I need you to give me the truth, and we're gonna keep it going.

SPEAKER_06 54:54

So okay, cool.

SPEAKER_07 54:56

I'm nervous.

SPEAKER_06 54:57

Now I'm excited.

SPEAKER_07 54:58

Let me see. Okay, so do more people hide parts of themselves because they fear judgment from family or culture.

SPEAKER_06 55:11

Both. Both? Can I say both?

SPEAKER_07 55:14

You can say both, yes.

SPEAKER_06 55:15

Okay, I feel like both. But more lead more to our culture. Um because especially when it comes to us black folk, um, automatically, if we do one thing, we we representate, we're we're a representation of the whole community. And if we stand out to be different, we're a representation of that whole community. Um, it's always been like that when us black people, which I kind of is, I mean, it can get very irritating. Um, and when it comes to the culture, um, we hold that dearly. Because one thing about us African Americans and us black people here in America, our culture is the culture, yeah, and it's the most important culture when it comes to the world.

SPEAKER_07 55:58

Because everybody wants to be in our culture, yes. Everybody they want to act back black, but they just don't want to be black, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 56:07

Okay, so if we decide to be different and be ourselves, then now people are gonna start thinking that that's the new thing, and it's like, no, that's just that individual that wants to be different. So let me switch it. I say more for the culture.

SPEAKER_07 56:19

Okay, there we go. There you have it. And is sexuality more fluid than society wants it to wants to admit?

SPEAKER_06 56:26

Yes, it is. Shout out to Generation Z and this new generation, they starting to be a lot more a lot more free, um, a lot more fluid than we were before, and a lot more accepting. Um, and I feel like a lot of people are very much most definitely sexually fluid. Uh, we're just now starting to hear more about it. But this has been been going on.

SPEAKER_07 56:45

And so, for the people who don't know what fluid means, explain that.

SPEAKER_06 56:51

So, basically, uh, I'm gonna give y'all a nice definition. In a sense, it's being sexually fluid, at least to my definition, is basically someone who doesn't necessarily focus on the gender, and it's more of like just a person, their personality, or in a sense of they've they're basically just like I said before, they're attracted to the person who they are. Not necessarily I'm attracted because that's a male, like I'm gay, so I'm not sexually fluid, I'm I'm a gay male because I'm attracted to another male, specifically because he's a male, his masculinity, etc. A woman, she's attracted to a male for that same reason. Uh a gay woman is attracted to another woman because that's a specific thing. A sexually fluid person that don't matter to them. They're sexually fluid because one, they attracted to the actual person as a person, and all that they might just want to try new things, and that's why I always say be be open to trying new things, which makes you sexually fluid. But to keep them 100, because we're being real, I feel like sexually fluid is just a term for um straight or bisexual men to or men who think they might lean over to the other side. That's like just a safe word to for them to say, said as instead of saying that they're bior to say that they're gay.

SPEAKER_07 58:04

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_06 58:05

That's my opinion.

SPEAKER_07 58:06

Okay, and last but not least, um, why do people care so much about consenting adults what they do privately? Like everybody cares about who somebody's sleeping with, who someone's dating. I just saw online that, and I don't know if it's true or not, that Jennifer Lopez and Will Smith they're dating. So why do you think people are so involved in other people's bedroom?

SPEAKER_06 58:38

Because they ain't got nothing else going on for themselves, so they have to uh dig into other people's um livelihoods to entertain their own livelihoods. That's basically it. Because I mean, I it might be interesting, but I don't care about who he's sleeping with or who he's doing what with as long as he's as long as the other person is consent with that and they both agree with it, and it's no no one's getting hurt, no one's getting molested, raped. Why does it matter? And then only that, that's just the expose culture. That's another thing that's popular now to expose somebody or to I got you moment. So yeah, it's knowing the people who ain't got shit going on with their lives, who ain't getting no pussy, no ass, and then so they gotta go into other people's business to talk about them, and or they might be doing that, or they might be going through some BS. So it's to take the attention off, then they bring it up other people's absolutely, and I do have one more question.

SPEAKER_07 59:28

I was gonna ask this earlier. So, being that you're a gay man, right? And let's just say you're out and about and you're hanging out, can you tell if a man is straight or gay? Just by looking at him, no, from a conversation or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 59:54

Um so if my friends, my gay dollars getting better. Because one thing about me, I'm an Aquarius, I don't really think about that when I'm talking to folk for real, for real. I really just like good people.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:07

But um, can you tell your girl hits you up and say, hey, I want you to tell me if this dude is gay or not before I sleep with him or whatever the case is.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:15

And I'm gonna tell that girl, you can figure that shit out yourself. I'm not I just had to tell my best friend about that shit. I say, You're not about to use me on no downs or something like that. You can figure that shit out. And if you really care, just ask him.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:26

But can you he may not tell the truth, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:30

Right. Um, in today's society, I feel as though you probably can guess, but not all the time. And I think when people focus on that, and that's when we start to label it, and that's when we start to judge people, and that's when we start to get in people's business because um it can be a straight male that's rocking something that's not the norm. Like right now, I'm sure somebody sees me, they'll probably stereotypically think that I'm just a hood nigga or whatever, and I'm a straight guy. Yeah, you you look straight, yeah, yeah. But I'm gay as hell, you know what I'm saying? If you get to talking to me, probably I talk with my hands and stuff like that, and then I'm very, you know, flamboyant with my hands and stuff, but still, that does not have anything to do with my sexuality because I know people who are even more flamboyant than me and more feminine than me, and they got a whole wife and kids, and they're happily married, you know. So to me, I kind of can. Uh, but on some real shit, that since we keep it in 100, I think everybody get down. It just takes everybody to get down the right place to get it. So so Miss Tanya, if you ain't got down yet, I bet you I can't.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:27

No, no, I'm not well. See, I'm not even trying to put myself in that situation. Um, no, I'm saying you can't get shit. I know, but I'm being honest, though. I'm being honest. So I don't I I I have had um a woman come on to me. Okay, and I just say, hey, I'm strictly dickly.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:44

Come on.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:45

You know what I'm saying? And keep it moving. And we should respect that, yeah, and I just keep it moving.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:51

So but like normally, but normally in conversations, you possibly can eventually, especially if I start throwing like little hints. Uh, I'm trying to think of something I normally do. Um, normally, like, um, like of course, if you like say some clubs or something, like, oh yeah, I've been there before. Like, oh, you have. Okay. A little stuff like that. But normally, like I said before, I normally I'm like the worst person with this gay dar stuff. Because everybody be thinking everybody gay now, which is so annoying.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:17

Let me tell you, I had a very close gay friend when I lived back in Charleston, South Carolina. And I won't say I'm not gonna go into all of that because people are gonna be like, oh, that person, they know they know him. He's gay. And he and I were very close, and he actually helped me move to Atlanta.

unknown 1:02:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:38

And I would go to the gay clubs with him or bars or whatever. And one one day he was like, hey, I'll be right back. Um I'm gonna run to the store. And I'm sitting at the bar and I'm waiting for him like maybe 20 minutes. He comes back with this huge Victoria secret box. Okay, and he gives it to me, and he says, and I open it up, and it's a negligee, and he says, You can make me straight. Oh. He and I haven't been friends ever since. First of all, not I'm like, what the hell? Like, first of all, I'm married. Number two, like, you know, I'm not gay. I never known him to be bisexual. Like, I don't know what the hell was going on in his mind.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:34

Yeah, that's awkward as hell. It was very awkward. Yeah, I don't believe in that. Talking about some, oh, you can make me, I'm delivered. Uh woman, woman, woman. No, baby. No, and then I can make him straight.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:44

I'm like, like, hell no, I can't.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:47

No, no. Because there's people that, and that's that's what, and that's why I feel like it's a misconception of people thinking that being gay is a choice, it's not a choice. I who who wants to like, I'm already a black male, I'm already, it's already a target on me. Not only that, now I'm gay, and not only that I'm targeted with these white folk, and not only that I'm a target with my own people. Who wants to deal with that for the rest of their lives? I wouldn't if I had a choice, but this is me and that's who I am, and we should accept that. So for the people who are actually gay, because we got some people in my community that be like some, oh, you know, I ain't gay no more, or this is that and the third, I've been delivered. Like, baby, you probably wasn't gay, you're probably bisexual, but you know, what's still some in the back of that hey, that means it's in your mouth, okay? Because I done had it once and I ain't checked out since then. All right, and then only that, I ain't never took no dick, but the way y'all be taking dick in them pornos, the ladies, and the way the Oh my goodness. That's why that's actually the reason why I'm scared to take a dick because I might like it too damn much.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:50

Oh my goodness. It has been an absolute pleasure. I hope to meet you in person one day because I'm here in the A. So definitely, I hope, and hopefully, you'll come out to our white party. Yes, we'll send you the information.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:07

Please do.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:08

Um, have you stop through? Oh, absolutely. That would be great. And maybe we'll reach um, I'll have um my producer reach out to you about that as well. Yeah, do some type of collaboration with the magazine.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:22

Most definitely would love that. We'd love that. Yes, and then um, if oh, if your mind go ahead. No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:27

I want you to let them know how they can find you and everything.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:30

Yes, yes. So please follow me on um Instagram, um, it's uh at nappy boy n a p p I B O I, and also follow our wonderful platform Gay Magazine G A Y E. Um, we have we we we just signed a contract with TikTok, so we started on TikTok live. Um, we are getting big and we we like we done turned down some stuff that I would have never thought we would have turned down. Like we're we're getting up there. Um, so if you if you want us to be in your next city, whether it's a pride. Event or anything LGBT, please hit us up. Um, you can DM me or you can email me at nappyboy um at gmail.com at gamemagazine.com. Um, also, um, if you want me to host, and I I I'm gay, but I can host straight events as well. That shouldn't even matter. That shouldn't even matter. If you want to collab, let me know. I always do events as well. So outside of Gay Magazine, um, I do um because I graduated from Alabama State University, graduated from A.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:31

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:32

So I always do an annual fish fry.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:35

Oh uh uh you already said listen, hey, you already told me you already told me you country though, okay. No, no, country.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:41

So we do a fish fry, we do um a pool party, me and my homeboy uh Rashad. Shout out to Rashad Brigali, that's my that's my best friend. Um we the fish fry, cookout, and we do a pool party. Um, and I'm actually partnering up with another group of people too, where we do networking events as well. I'll be posting that as well. But if you want to know more about me, please follow us. And our next stop with Gay Magazine, um, because we're about to get back on the road, we will be at DC Pride. I hope to see y'all there. I'll be doing interviews, red carpets. And if you see me, feel free to come and speak because I'm a cool people. I ain't one of these mean ass niggas out here. I'm cool as hell. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:19

I love your spirit. Um, you're a cool guy, and also, guys, please, please follow him, follow the magazine, and don't leave before when we we're getting ready to sign off here, but don't leave. Okay. Um, but um I want to thank you for joining us tonight. It's been a great show. I wish Donnie could have been here. As you can see, he was upset that he could not be able to do it.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:44

I would you don't, I understand, Donnie. I didn't know. Yes. And we're gonna see each other again, though.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:50

Yes, and hopefully, like I stated for the um for the white party. But one of the things you said about the fish fry. I don't know if you guys do this um when somebody passes away. You know, the night before the yeah, we do a fish fry the night before the funeral. Yeah, yes, so I thought that was a fish fry family. Yeah, we do a fish fry. Yeah, we do a fish fry.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:15

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:16

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:17

We we um so no well, because because that's where I got it from. Uh my family from Alabama. So normally we do it before the funeral. Yeah, we have it at my grandma's house, we be all and that's how everybody comes together. Because you know, yeah, we don't want to come in there crying and stuff. We want to be happy, we want to rejoice, because you know, that's some that's some white supremacy stuff to be all sad and stuff. Us black people, we rejoice, we come together, and that's my family does the same thing. But if we don't do that, we either do it afterwards and we all go back to my grandmama's house. We have liquor and we have fish, we be outside singing love and happiness.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:52

Okay, oh yeah, we have the fish, we have the shrimp, and we have other food too. But the fish is the main course. What's your go-to fish? I swear to god, uh because I'm from Charleston, South Carolina, fresh water, I love whiting. You know what? I'm I'm because I'm a whiting girl.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:12

I used to love cat, but now I'm starting to like whiting a lot more.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:15

I am whiting. That's okay, but I love it. And especially we fry it outside in the pot on the listen. Yep, you do some that is the best damn fish ever. Yes. Okay, the best fish ever. And what you put on yours? I could have hot sauce, right? I could and listen, we can do hot sauce and white bread.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:41

Okay. With the fatty.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:44

I put mustard.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:46

Oh my goodness. I sometimes put a little ketchup, like if we got fries and a little dippers or something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mustard and um hot sauce is mine. And do y'all eat it with onions and peppers? You can. You can eat it. Okay, we do we do that too. We saute the onions sometimes.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:01

So yeah. So make sure y'all come.

unknown 1:10:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:06

Well, thank you again for joining us. And guys, please catch another episode next week, same time. Different topics. Yes, sir. Thanks for watching the truth ain't in us. Peace. Bye bye.