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A Session with DC Capital

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In this episode of A Session With Kage, DC Capital comes by the studio to tell us about a few projects he's has coming out and we get a little nerdy towards the end too 

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SPEAKER_02

But I'm gonna get you high today.

SPEAKER_00

God damn, yo. Out in the street there's a little uh Korean Korean spot. They do these little uh pancakes, yeah. They call like soctique or whatever the fuck. Yeah, yo, best best little six dollar thing I've ever got in my life. Damn. I got it off a whim. I called bro, I was like, you have to try, you have to try this. It can't be like that.

SPEAKER_02

But you've hit them ever since. I'll be going into like little mom and pop shops, like, yo, what y'all got up here?

SPEAKER_00

And you know what? Because uh like for a little bit I lived in New York, I like on Long Island. I used that's why I used to fuck with uh Delis and shit out there. Yeah, because it's kind of like the same thing, you can find all types of shit. Bomb ass little snacks, sandwiches, and shit.

SPEAKER_02

The roast beef sandwiches be off the chain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy because like not a lot of people fuck with like roast beef and shit, bro.

SPEAKER_01

Center cut roast beef sandwich? Yeah, it's far. I need already. Oh me, that's funny as fuck. Actually, my uh that's what that's that's what my mama put me on, so she's mine too. Oh god, my mom, yeah, bro, like salami and all that shit, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Like all that.

SPEAKER_00

Alright. We got notes. We got look, stoners, I need y'all to know because there's gonna be other guests that's gonna fucking ask me. Don't don't come to me talking about, hey, hey, I seen so-and-so, I seen DC. This is a joints show. This is an exception. This is not even an exception that I allowed in. It's more weed than it's more weed than tobacco anyway. This is this is above me. This is above and beyond me. All right, so don't ask me, don't be in my DMs talking much shit. Uh anyway, anyway, Stoner's what's good, y'all. Welcome to another episode of Session with Kage. I'm your host, Kage. Uh, today I am joined with uh shit, another fly ass fucking rapper. Um today, of course. Yo, today I'm joined with DC Capital. Um, not to be confused with, and my Google search is a whole different nigga. Uh we need to talk to Google and get that works, get that situated. Um, but yeah, what's good, bro? So let's talk to the people on time. What up, what up? How y'all doing?

SPEAKER_02

How y'all doing? It's your boy in the building. So for those that don't know, I'm DC Capital. Uh make music, I make beats, um, smoke a lot of weed. Chill do, man.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, I didn't know you made beats.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but I appreciate you for pulling on today, bro. How you been doing? How you been doing in general? I've been good, man. I've been good. I've just been working hella heavy, no lie, been hella working. Uh, I got a job working with like tires and shit, so yeah, it's been really tiring. I haven't really had much to no pun intended. Yeah, right, right, right. I really had like much time to like make new songs or like game, so it's been kind of annoying. Yeah, I heard you mention a little bit earlier, you grind grinding now being dad and shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, man, yeah. Dad life was fire. I mean trying to go hold even trying to get this worked out with him was a little hard. He got a busy sketch, he got a busy schedule, he's working a lot. He's working a whole lot.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Gotta get that money, man. Gotta get that money, man. So uh, so uh tell tell tell people a little bit about um about uh about shit. I mean, ultimately yourself, because you know, because you're uh you're a Portland rapper, right? Born and raised. Yeah, born and raised, Portland, Oregon.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I'm 31. Old nigga. 31. We not old, bro. We're not old. I'm I'm on 30. I'm on 30. We was, we was. But um, yeah, man. 30 best part of our stride. Freaking uh, yeah, man, I've been doing this for almost 20 years. Yeah, almost 20 years. I started making music when I was um 12. Oh shit. I started making music when I was 12 and started dropping music when I was 15. And then I started making beats around like yeah, 15 as well. So yeah, I got some I got some years in this.

SPEAKER_00

I'm damn, I'm damn. So what's it like growing up? What's really growing up in Portland uh because like I don't think I've had to not too many uh like Portland born and raised like this is where they've been at uh rappers, let's look at us a couple, but you know, for your take, you know, what's it like growing up in Portland, bro? Um, it's pretty cool, man.

SPEAKER_02

Like it get cold, it get cold as hell, rainy, but you can't let that get to you. Um, growing up here was it was dope. I wouldn't change it. If anything, I would go back to being a kid and growing up here again. Like it was pretty fire. I had a great upbringing, but um, like the rap scene in Portland, I would say it was way fire when I was growing up because you had your like Mike Capes, Vinny Dwayne, Matt Randall, uh uh uh Mike Bogan, um, Trey Verdeau, you had them and they were like dropping hot shit. You had uh uh uh Casso, he's still dropping hot shit. Uh bro. Um yeah, he's still dropping hot shit and stuff. Uh you had all of them like used to have all them niggas on like one song and shit like that, or like all them niggas in like one room, and you would just hear like greatness from each individual back then. So that like kind of made me want to like you know go hard for Portland as well. So it's like I don't know, it was it was pretty cool, but I feel like the the rap scene now and like growing up in Portland now, it's kind of like shifted with everybody having this like ego kind of thing, you know? But yeah, it's it's it's cool now, I guess. It's it's cool.

SPEAKER_00

It's different, but yeah, cool. So how'd you get into oh shit. So how'd you get into rap, you know, 12 years old? Uh shit.

SPEAKER_02

How'd you get into music period, really? Yeah, I've been into music like my whole entire life. Like I started making music at uh 12, but been into music my whole entire life with um my mom. She was really big on like lyricist and like hip-hop and like and jazz. She loved like, you know, like RP artists and stuff like that. So I had like a lot of the soulful music from my mom, but my dad was more like West Coast, super high-feed, like beats, Mag Dre E40, too short, you know, like keep the sneak and all that. Like, so I just I I don't know, always had an ear for music, and like I had the best of both worlds with having both of them listen to music around me my whole entire life. So it's just like I would always be in the back listening to music with my headphones on, you know, like while they're playing music. If I didn't want to listen to their shit, you know, I'd I'd have headphones on. I was never like just playing a game, I would have to have headphones on. Yeah, like you gotta game, you gotta game with some music essentially. You know, like stuff like that. But like I would always hear songs on the radio, like the transitions and the songs and shit, like before my mom would hear them, and I'd be like, ooh, this song's coming on next. And then the song would come on, and that's how I knew I was gonna do music. You know, I was just like, nah, it just makes sense to do music because like I can hear the certain sounds before other people can, you know, like yeah, like you can use like you predict on like playlists, you're predicting like sound waves and that shit.

SPEAKER_00

This one's gonna come next. Like, I feel that no, that's that's low as fuck. That's lowest fun. It's crazy. Do you have like a favorite um Did you have like a favorite uh like artists or playlists that your mom like will put on the shit? Um favorite artists is tough because for me it was definitely uh why can't I think of the name all of a sudden? Erica Badu.

SPEAKER_02

My mom played a whole lot of Erica Badu and um and Lauren Hill. Yeah, Sade, Warren Hill. Sade. Definitely topps, topps for sure. Um my mom liked a lot of like Michael Jackson and stuff too. Uh Teddy Pinegrass. Damn, she had a deep ass bag. Yeah, yeah. She she yeah, she likes music, man. She's from uh Kansas, she's not from here, but like my dad's from here. But like I'm born and raised here, so like crazy story. But um yeah, man, if I had shit. Favorite artists. I would have to say I can't say, bro.

SPEAKER_00

You ain't gotta pick one. She gotta she got that good, that exquisite of a taste. Yeah, it's kinda it's sometimes kind of hard to pick one. Yeah. Shit. I I definitely get that our our uh sounds like our moms had uh had similar taste in music is like great taste in music, to be honest with you. So uh so what was it like? What was it like getting like first getting into music for you, like first get into like being like an artist for you?

SPEAKER_02

Um it was honestly, I'm gonna say it was kind of easy. Because like when I started writing stuff, I would like send it to the homies, or like I would I would record on my phone and show the homies an it, like, bro, like we gotta go to the studio so you can actually record this. So like when I would record music, I would post it on YouTube and then I would share it on Facebook and then tag like a hundred people. So then, like, and I had like a cool following back then where like everybody was tapped in, you know. So then I would share it on there. This is before Instagram, and people would like flood my shit, you know, apologize. People would flood my shit. You know, you don't practice, yeah. Yeah, like listen to the song and give me feedback, you know. Like some people would be like, bro, this shit sucks, you know. But then that would make me go harder because I was never one of those people to be like super in my head. I'm like, all right, cool, I can take constructive criticism and flip this shit and make it better. You know, like I actually prefer that, you know, that lets me know that people are real.

SPEAKER_00

I feel that, I feel that you kind of remember like the like that that story of like your first song, like you were like, This is it, like this is the one, or like I definitely should do this.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's actually still on SoundCloud. It's called um Damn. Ah damn, I don't even remember what it's called. Damn, and that far it's been a minute ago, but yeah, bro. Like that was that story a little bit. 2,000 views that I seen. That was like the first 2,000 views that I seen on my on a song of mine, and I was like, whoa, bro, like I'm I'm up next. You know, like back then it's like, oh my god, bro, I got 2,000, bro, I'm up next. What the fuck? But like, yeah, it was it was crazy because like somebody, uh my homie Sav, he had hit me up on SoundCloud, and he's from here, and he's been you know listening to my music and shit, and I never heard of him. And I heard one of his songs and I was like, nah, he's cold. I was like, I want to say I was like 17. This motherfucker was like 14, bro, like a little nigga, right? Hit me up, he was like, yo, you cold? And I was like, bro, you cold. We did a song, and then we did uh the song that I posted or whatever. And after that, it was I I don't know, I seen like the the change of my music and like his music, and then the reactions that I was getting. I was like, oh shit, everything is positive now. You know, it's like a difference from my first song to like my first drop song, you know? So it's like that I gotta keep going. I gotta give them more. Oh, yeah, go ahead, buddy.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so your name, DC Capital.

SPEAKER_02

Um, tell me about that shit. Where did that shit come from? All right, man. So I was originally Fudge Luciano. Like my I'm sorry. Please run that back. My first rap name was Fudge Luciano. Fudge Luciano. The only reason why my rap name was Fudge Luciano is because my birth nickname is Fudge. Okay. So like I everybody knew uh knew me as Fudge, so I just ran with that.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, with that with that being a name, it makes it a little bit more acceptable. Yeah, yeah, you know, I was like, you know. What's this Luciano?

SPEAKER_02

My bro, uh my bro uh Meach, yeah, he he always called me Luci, Luciano, and he always called me that. So I was like, all right, that's kind of tough. So like Fudge Luciano, and then I did my like Portland research, and there was hella rappers named Luciano and shit. So I was like, I'm cool. And then the DC is my initials. Yeah, my name is Demarius Clark. Yeah, okay, change my name, man. And then Capital, I felt like I was the capital of my town at the moment when I changed my name. So I was like, bet. Like I know everybody, I'm like an outlet and shit.

SPEAKER_00

Damn. So how long you running with that name? Now uh damn. Actually, no, better question.

SPEAKER_02

How long did fudge Luciano last for that didn't last long? That didn't last long. That lasted for like, I want to say like a a year, a year or two. Yeah, because we had like moved, and I was I was doing hella other shit, and I was just like, I can't be this dude no more, man. Like, I'm still fudge, of course. People know me and still call me fudge and shit like that.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, but the artist the artist fudge for the fudge Luciano, he he's no longer. Yeah. Okay, okay. So uh shit. Excuse me. So tell me a little, tell me a little about um about about music making for you, uh, this music making process, because like your music videos, great, your sound, great, but I've also noticed like your sound has changed has changed over the course of time and all that as well. Yeah, so you're you're definitely a very complex artist, bro. Thank you. Um and all of very, very art artistically, like you have a good artistic vision. Like when I was going through your shit, I was like, like it felt very fun to like watch your music videos, to listen to some of the songs. Uh bro. But yeah, like so like what what was like because it seems like you got started like what 20 or your first the first few uh releases that I saw, like early 20, 2010, like or not mid 2010s. Yeah, yeah, yo, yo. Um, you had a you had a very distinct sound at the time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, uh I think like to be real, I just go with the times and like how I'm feeling. Like when I make music, it depends on like my mood and shit like that. Like, if I'm mad, then I'm most likely gonna make a diss song, but I'm gonna keep it to myself. But like I'm not necessarily dissing anybody because I don't have beef with anybody. So it's like I'm just saying shit. And then like I'm like, damn, I can't really post this because like this might hurt some people, but I'm not targeting people, you know what I'm saying? I'm just making a diss song that like, you know, why you hold that stuff back? Yeah, because like bro, I don't want to, bro, I don't want somebody to hear this and be like, oh, you're talking about me. And it's like, bro, I'm not, you know. You know, like I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Like, I don't I don't know, but I mean are you like are you like a chronically online kind of a person or chronically online kind of artist?

SPEAKER_02

I don't like to be on my phone, man. I mean sure. I don't like to be on my phone for real, but I like I like to go out and and chill, but like um yeah man, I kind of lost the question, my bad. No, that's okay.

SPEAKER_00

That's the that's the that's the place to spoke on the show. It kind of keeps it interested. Um it's kind of like a like a like a flow uh flow state of thought. Um but no, I was I was just wondering, like, you know, it's like you see you you were saying like you you you have songs that like you know they're they're angrier songs or like they're they're like beef songs, but then oh shit, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's just I mean depends on how I'm like feeling and shit, bro. Like honestly, like when I make music or like if I have a certain um if I have a certain goal to do with like a project, then I'll like snap into it and like one track, one track, one track, you know, just make this project and actually put it out. But like if I'm just um I don't know, if I just want to make some shit, I'll just make some shit. So like I live in the studio, it's like hop, skip, and a jump. That I've no that I've noticed.

SPEAKER_00

I've seen I'm saying like even right now that you drop you're dropping something, like you're you're you're definitely you're on a drop on a on a run to drop something to see. Um, but not all the stuff that you got like kind of hidden, it's like you're saying like these little these hidden like ghost shots, like in the same way. Can you don't you do you think that maybe these could be something that you could be you could potentially use in the future in the same way that uh someone like Kendrick Lamar used his control moment?

SPEAKER_02

Uh I mean kind of if if Rip C the Heroes sparks that fucking uh uh battles thing back up, that would be pretty fire because then it's like, oh yeah, we can we can do that, you know what I'm saying? Or um yeah, yeah, because then or if somebody does like a song wars type shit, you can go song for song, like on some of this shit, that'd be tight, that'd be tight. Okay, okay. So if you if you if you get like a if you get a good enough platform in the moment to kind of like reflect that stuff is good enough for you, I feel that I feel that I might just be like posting some shit, then people hit me up, like nigga, bro, I thought we was cool. Like, nigga, I'm not even talking about your ass.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just trying to talk my shit in general.

SPEAKER_00

I feel that, I feel that. Um, so like right now, bro, you're you're working on uh you've been working on a lot of music videos and you're working on like the string of like these Instagram uh quick music videos too. Yeah, so tell me a little bit about that, like the inspiration and what's going on with that.

SPEAKER_02

Um, everything's like changing now, and like nobody's really paying attention to like full music videos. And I kind of like slacked off on my Instagram, so like I felt like why not build it back up with some quality, real. So I tapped in with my videographer, Bossy, shout out to you, man. You know what I'm saying? That's my dog, but um, yeah, tapped in with him and then just started shooting reels and shit, and uh yeah, posting them, trying to get my um my page back up, trying to get some more followers, man, more interaction and stuff. Um yeah, I don't know, it's it's kind of weird, like with music videos and stuff now. It's like you have to pay for promotion just to reach like a certain algorithm. It's like kind of dumb, you know, because I remember back then it was just like, oh damn, like share this with so many people, they might share it, they might share it, you know. Then you get like organic views, you know, and then now it's like this rapper got 23 followers and fucking dropped a video and it has like 10k, you know, like first two minutes, you know, and it's like I don't know, it kind of waters everything down, so it doesn't really make you want to drop a full music video, it kind of makes you want to drop like content to build your page up, to to reach new followers, meaning like producers, uh uh photographers, videographers, uh fans, other artists, and stuff like that, you know, rather than going to YouTube and doing that and sharing it like that, because also people get lazy and they don't want to click on other links. So like, you know, making your you feel me?

SPEAKER_00

You're preaching to the choir. They get every lazy, bro. And it's like the fact that we're even doing even this, like being long-form content, bro. Like, like it it's it's a it's definitely a struggle because people have such a shorter, much shorter attention spans. They yeah, people don't want to click on like you can put the link right in their face, but like you put the words, click on the link. Still no clicks. Yeah, I don't know what that what that's about. I mean, the way you're I mean the way you're engaging, honestly, is a really good way because like I feel like I I mean you're you're bringing the music video experience to them on Instagram for like even like uh the ones that you have dropped in like the last couple days, it's like what you running down the street. Oh yeah, don't yeah, yeah. Uh yeah, um, they definitely uh I like yeah, I like that. Like that that running down the street. It seems like like you're like you're working like you're warming up. Yeah, uh, because like you know, you've been gone for a little while. So I think that the themes you've gone with. I didn't even think about it like that. You know, sometimes the universe brings an idea and and or brings an aesthetic to you that you didn't that you didn't notice, which is nice. Uh but yeah, bro. I mean, like it's how'd you come up with I mean, how'd you come up with um or who have you been working with to come up with this the visuals on this stuff?

SPEAKER_02

Uh Bossick, yeah, my videographer, he ate me a he was like, yo, let's shoot. I got this new camera. I was like, Yep, bet. Yeah, sent him some songs. He was like, I like this one, bro. He was like, let's shoot some uh let's shoot some reels for this one instead of like shooting a music video. And I was like, Yep, let's let's go. And then he was like, I got this location, bro. Like, it's perfect, bro. Like right by the mountain, kinda. And I was like, Yep, bet. Pulled up, shot it, bro. And I'm like, yo. Um I don't know, it's it's a pretty cool process. It looks good, it looks very good.

SPEAKER_00

It looks, it looks uh, is it all like one take reels?

SPEAKER_02

Uh yeah, or I mean Yeah, yeah, pretty much like one take reels. It's like but we shot, I think we shot like six of them, and then he sent me back, or no, no, yeah, yeah. We shot like six of them, and then he sent me twelve back, so he sent me like a purple graded one, and then like a regular kind of color graded one. So I was like, Yep, that.

SPEAKER_00

abuse this shit bro I'm gonna just fucking schedule post these so I don't have to like type everything out as I'm doing shit you know what I'm saying yeah when you gotta work on your breakdown like do all that shit let me schedule these posts let me check my out uh my algorithm real quick let me check uh when my post dates are like popping and shit so I was like yeah I bet after the first one I was like all right cool this one did some numbers let me schedule these ones out posted those and then yeah uh shot a video the other day without like having to fucking sit there and worry about posting you know this real and shit so I was like yeah that's cool I feel that I feel that um so I see like we're we're see we're getting all this we're getting all this those all this dope ass content all this nice plan content it seems like uh last I saw you you're planning for uh a project coming in on a four I think it was 420 was yeah man 420 420 I'm dropping um you remember that fucking uh 28 grams by whiz yeah bro trap whiz of course yeah of course I dropping some uh 28 you're gonna get the whole ounce 28 tracks um I gotta record a couple more I have uh I think I have like 26 right now so I gotta record like two more and then I'm ready to drop but it's been like a working process I've been working on this album for like shit two three years yeah I have like old songs on my laptop on there so like don't grill me for like some of the quality change and shit like that.

SPEAKER_02

I don't have the files but like they're good songs to me so just buy that but like yeah it's pretty cool man.

SPEAKER_00

So some of them are gonna be coming like as like as the raw the raw originals like the way you finalize them at that time. I'm with that. Especially in the in this mixtape area I'm kind of yeah yeah I like that shit.

SPEAKER_02

And it's my first album so I'm like fuck it it's only gonna get better after this drop so like I need to stop hoarding music and just drop it you know exactly I just hold myself back at this point.

SPEAKER_00

I always tell it I always tell people they forget that uh especially like our perfectionist artists that we got out there the Wu Tang clan was probably one of the roughest sounding uh artists out there groups out there uh with the releases of with the release of their stuff yeah um like it it was never very very polished but they built the craziest fan base across the country across the world honestly they got that like what secret album that they were gonna drop or like release in like Halloween years or something like that.

SPEAKER_02

Is that the one that the home dude bought I think so it was like a box or something like this.

SPEAKER_00

Yo yeah homeboy the same it's the same dude who uh who bought the the patent for penicillin or was or insulin for insulin dang I was like yo that's terrible terrible dude uh they tried to they tried to zoom I think back for it and everything there was a lot of those a lot of shit that went around and just raised like a couple years ago about it. But still unfortunately I think there's no way for anyone to hear it it was the there's only two I think in existence. One or two in existence.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah and they got a copy and then they released one to the to the public and not really to the public exactly to a public bro I got this fucking like pinch nerve bro so like my arm keeps shaking and shakes I just got through with that like uh like literally all of like a week a couple weeks ago for real bro it is so worse on the fucking PT bro dudes like yeah stretches with my arms been doing like Epsom salt socks Epson salt soaks and stuff that's a hard one to say real fast you know that that's me all the way up but nah man I need to I need to do that for sure I need to do that for sure.

SPEAKER_00

It definitely it definitely helped I would there they had like this hemp one and they had a few other ones that I've been using uh I would just like hot ass water yeah dump a bunch of that shit in there and just sit in there for like 30 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_02

Honestly bro if you fuck a uh I told I guess not everyone be knowing um they have like teed C C B D bath salts at the dispensaries and shit I fuck with those heavily especially especially like right now these moments with the pensioners and shit yeah bro I actually need to go back to my old shop and go get some shit because yeah bro I don't know I'd just be dealing with pain yeah I got a high pain tolerance so I just like I don't know I just dug it out yeah but I need to stop doing that hey you know something you that dug it out until you until you lose it yeah right bro it's sitting there like this like huh shouldn't you no more your heart little shake of you throw the arm bro that'd be crazy oh fuck um so uh as you're as you're coming out now like with uh everything like so what who who is this new DC that we expect to see um and I noticed that the sound went from uh uh something more uh over time a little bit I'll say uh not aggressive but aggressively lyrical yeah um something a little bit more um I guess a little bit more like uh melodic and vibey yeah I'm more yeah I'm I'm chilled you see now like I don't really be like rapping and shit like that no more because people don't really want to hear that shit especially like I fuck with hip hop I always want to hear that shit but then like this newer generation and and the way music is going and shit like that it becomes boring. You know you just have to have like people worry about music too much. So then that's like when I kept doing my production to make people like listen to what I'm saying. You know so then it's like I'm still lyrical but I'm dumbing it down a little bit you know to make it make sense to the easy ears but then the people that love hip hop can decipher the bars that I'm actually saying. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah no definitely the what is it triple entendre is it entendre yeah yeah yeah the double double and triple entendre yeah no actually I I remember I I'm I'm a fan of uh uh Dendel Curry I remember he had a he had a lyric in a song recently it was like uh it was like uh I used to I used to do the smart talk then had to dumb it down um and like you know me me being 30 is like and then all the songs I grew up on like I I for the longest time didn't get it um at all like I I wasn't I'm a stan of all the lyrical rappers like when it comes to like the the the the Kendrick's the the old school shit and all that like I'm like oh yeah I want to hear the lyric on your storytelling blah blah blah but yeah no and even even if I'm party rap sometimes I like it to be lyrical party rap so to speak um but yeah no I'm learning that the that the the the vibey like the vibey shit is like it's very sad I'm saying you want to dance and shit sometimes hop in the car like ride out listen to some you know what I'm saying some DC after that um so like with Death man don't forget that yeah man for real I'm a I'm a little I'm a little dehydrated I've been a little dehydrated that shit it's crazy I uh I didn't always uh fuck with it because I just didn't I just didn't know what it was at first I just kept seeing it and then one day I went into the uh gas station I saw by the waters I was like is that I was like oh and I haven't I haven't seen that ad for it on my phone on Instagram I was like oh shit fire as fuck actually I'd hate drinking water but I do I drink the fuck out of these um I found out about these through whisk alisa yeah is uh I think he's he's sponsored by them yeah I think he does I think he's like back uh he backs them and all that shit yeah like they they definitely they go hand in hand essentially uh which is dope that's dope uh I mean shit just don't drink some water right to drink water I know we drink enough of it uh so um actually I did wanted to know did I say that right I did want I did want to know if I understand you bro that's cool um so I've seen that um like a lot of your a lot of your music videos uh were produced by um I think it was RCH um uh not I mean he's he's done a few but like most of my videos are by uh Bossy okay oh okay okay so um how have how have you kind of like worked on putting like these like these ones on YouTube kind of together because like they're very they're very good visually visually they're very appealing um and they seem to like sometimes they seem to have a storyline uh so are you like are you just like getting up and be like hey bro I want to I want to go shoot or are you like writing out the whole like thing a script and whatnot for it you let them do it I mean some it I don't know sometimes I'm just I'm just like I want to go shoot and then like I'll have a location or like Boston Q will have a location but like nine times out of ten he always got the location for sure because like he be having an eye for shit so I'm like let's go you know and like I always trust him because his work is crazy.

SPEAKER_02

And then like RCH I trust him too because he's always like let's do this let's do this nah we gotta have this right here.

SPEAKER_00

He has a different vision for shit too so I'm like I ain't had this yet you know so I'm like all right shit let's try this you know so I'm always like all right all right I'm always down for shit you know so like I don't know I always trust people and like I trust other people's art too okay so it sounds like you definitely let them lead the way as far as like the like the the direct the direction that your videos kind of take you just you play back and play the art you said shit. Yup okay I feel it no I feel sometimes I know there's some people they like that like they have like they have a whole vision and like it has to be the same way. But no I I kind of I do kind of rock with that because I know a lot of like like videographers and people who do who are behind the camera they they always have a vision too of how they would like it to look or when they see an artist and they hear the song they're like I know exactly what you should do.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah that's and that's what it's always like whenever I send a song to Balsi it's like all right bro here's what we're gonna do. You know like I'm like all right let's go time.

SPEAKER_00

That's lit as fuck that's lit as fuck um so I and I'm jumping around a little bit just you know we smoking the shit but I did actually know you know as far as like you know you coming out as being the uh you know coming back out as a chill rapper so it's what's kind of pushing you towards like this chill phase uh my life yeah my life it's mellowing out uh tell us tell us tell me a little bit more I'm not so hotheaded anymore um yeah I don't know I feel like with having my daughter she calmed me down and be like a totally different person so like I'm more in touch with my feelings now like I used to just brush it off now I'm like nah we gotta talk about this you know like if it's bothering me I'm like yo nah we gotta talk about this I gotta I can't let it fester over so like I don't know I feel like I'm becoming a better person so I can't really be making like angry ass music if I'm not angry. You know I definitely understand I definitely understand that so like you're you're trying to so you feel like this be being a dad is just kind of bled into who you who you are as a as an artist now. Yeah and not only that like more of like a person too because like shit she's like bringing stuff out of me that I I never knew that I felt you know so like I don't know it's it's it's cool it's cool that's like having a dog that's not like doing a dad with a daughter that's gotta be tough girl dad's like girl dad uh yeah well uh how are you how are you about how you now like now that you're getting back into being artists and whatnot how are you balancing that that that dad life home life and and trying to uh you know also jump back into the game uh it's it's tough it's tough as hell um if you can do it you can do it you gotta find time to you know do your thing but like yeah I work my girl works freaking my daughter goes to school now so like I have a little bit of time before I go to work to make like music but not the time that I would like you know and I'm off like Fridays and Saturdays and shit like that so I can use those days to make music but I'll be trying to chill trying to chill trying to balance like being chilling on life and very busy ass week man I'm moving tires all day then come home 10 30 tired you know but like nah that's uh that's gotta be tough because like I mean like I don't I mean I didn't I didn't for the most part take you as a as like a uh like you're not like a party rapper you're not like a party rapper and so like I think I like to party with right I mean I think what benefits that you don't you don't have to be out in the party scene to kind of create your art um so like where where do you kind of draw like some of your inspirations from nowadays for kind of creating some of the stuff that's gonna be coming out video games yeah like anime only because like I can get in touch with my kids you know so like I used to flip playing video games I'm a real big Dragon Ball Z fan so I like I I watch Dragon Ball Z over and over and over like I'm in love with Dragon Ball Z shirt you probably you preach into the choir thing half an episode I got a Dragon Ball Z shirt on how I got a side on right now I got I got a fucking four star Dragon Ball tattoo on my arm.

SPEAKER_02

I got a Kokus headed on my arm.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think it's really into Dragon Ball Z I'm I'm an Arto kid like I got I'm a tattoo like I'm an Aruto related so far into Naruto bro like and everybody's before bro but no every everyone says that because I say the same about One Piece I'm never getting into one piece just the other I'm not like I I don't like pirate shit. I've learned that's actually a secret also to get them the fuck off your back so an episode like no I don't I wasn't in the pirates of the Caribbean I wasn't in the I don't like the yard I don't think dirty none of that I don't like none of that shit I don't look bro you can shake your head at me all you want my cameraman shaking his head at me I don't like pirates. I know the show is fire though you know because like they mentioned Luffy and like shonen jump and shit you know so like I never I never I never say I've never ever said it's a bad anime and people shouldn't watch I usually tell people like it see like if you want to get into one of the old ones one of the long lengthy ones and you like pirates do it. I will not sit with you and do it I like a lot of uh like old anime and shit though yeah that like usually keeps me inspired to like do my thing because I'm like damn bro I feel like a kid again let's go make some music you know and then I go through my beats and I'm like all right for sure but it's crazy because like I don't know I don't really rap on my beats like I produce them yeah you said you you said earlier because I didn't I didn't know this I didn't know this before uh you like are you you make beats so uh like do you are you making beats for like people currently or like do you just be like this is like a little side side project you're doing or do you always do this? I've always so I wanted to be a producer before a rapper which is crazy yeah I wonder this is actually crazy I had this elephant in my house problem elephants this is actually theirs I and I I love elephants they they they mean they mean a lot to me so I'm I'm like no definitely leave it there it's my pop uh my pop's favorite animal yeah actually that's that's my god that's my uh my godmother's favorite animal she's giving me uh animal for trinket animal elephant trinkets all the time yeah that's fire so um wait my bad my bad no it was it's all good um what the fuck did I ask this nigga what the fuck did I ask this nigga bro I wasn't even listening right now I was rolling his joint god damn it um oh I'll uh it'd be like uh asking you about um fucking stoners this is this is the fun part of the show where uh the host gets really high and so is his guests yeah and then they struggle to remember any part of what the fuck they were just talking about all of three to five seconds ago um from my from my time lapse uh um I'm pretty sure last thing well last thing I talk about was you is you made a dad a dad of music um but as far as guys help me the fuck out you don't you don't know do you you're just gonna sit here and watch me damn it's okay more weed in here more weed it's okay we're just we're just we're just gonna keep a question because I still have more shit I wanna I don't want to know oh your beats oh yo yo yo I don't know if you're looking at this shit we brought it back your beats I wanted to be a producer before rapper that's what it was fire we did the fuck out of here I um made a beat at the homie's house and it was not the greatest beat and then yeah I don't know I I picked up the pen and I was like yo I could actually like rap too so then I just started rapping and shit but the beats bro like I've always had an ear and like always wanted to be a producer so like I never let that go after that first beat I was like oh shit like I gotta teach myself how to do this because if I don't then I'm behind you know so I was just like fuck it bro we gotta do this and ever since then I I've just been producing but I don't really produce for like people unless people ask me for beats or like I send beats to my music chat but Lambo Lawson has used a lot of my beats which is pretty fire because that's what I've never had anybody like want to rap on my beats and shit like that and then I started making like my bad my voice a little deep but uh I started making like you talk lower than me I started making uh like I don't know kind of different beats and shit and he fucked with him and he was just like yo you doing anything with these no used him sent the song right back to me and I was like yo this is fire like can I keep making beats for you though like you know what I'm saying yo whenever you make beats he makes beats too so like you know it's it's it's dope. I mean honestly there's there's a lot of room like there's a lot of room in the uh in the in the hip hop space for that now especially when you have people like alchemists uh now like rapping and creating beats for people cold cold as fuckboy hip boy uh and I think there's a few I think I'm sure there's a few others that I'm I'm gl I'll gloss over right now but that's not my job um but yeah no I'm so I mean like there's definitely space like as a as a as going back as a rapper and producer so that can be the thing. So are you are you do you feel like you're do you feel like you're leaning more either which way right now or you just feel like you're just kind of gonna embrace both um I embrace both whenever I have like writer's block I know I need to make beats whenever I can't make a beat I know I need to be writing so like I I go back and forth with them.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah and especially you don't you don't rap on your own beats.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah I don't why not I don't know because I sit there with so many sounds like over and over for hours and I'm just like bro I have so many flows in my head like I gotta hear somebody else on this you know so then like I'll I'll send it off and then somebody will make a song to it and I'll be like bro this is hot. Like what the fuck this is hot I wouldn't have thought of this. You know so I'm like yo dope. Damn okay I mean have you ever tried have you ever tried Raphone beats like it's been like in the sentence somebody else since it's been a minute though like I haven't tried in hella years so I'm I'm pretty sure I can rap to my beats but I just haven't tried or made a beat that I want to rap on. So I'm really picky when it comes to beats and shit like that.

SPEAKER_00

I always hear like everybody else's beats and I'm like that's fire bro I'd rather try I'd rather have one now producers I'm like damn bro y'all make way better beats than me this is fire bro okay send them beats and they're like bro this is fire like what the fuck you made this I'm like yeah bro I mean it sound it sounds it sounds like you suffer as uh as as being a perfectionist artist the first yeah yeah that's big suffer from that because I'm like a big critic when it comes to my music who do you rely on to like to get through that like through that process bro to like get shit to pick shit get shit out uh myself oh god damn okay yeah it sucks it sucks but it's it sucks some of us do some of us do yeah uh do a lot of stuff do you do you want do you plan on keeping it that way like do you do you like do you is that like out of preference or just out of like uh or just no no like I I mean I have a team but like we're not everybody's like doing their own thing you know so like we're not doing any like team things right now but I know with a select few people that I have I can send anything over then they'll be like this is fire or I would change this or you know something so I'm like I need to just stop holding shit in in like express you know everything I guess talk to people more I don't talk that makes sense I I definitely understand that that makes sense no I mean like it's especially when like like especially when you Like it seems like you like to hold your your art like kind of close to your like kind of close to your chest. Uh and so uh so you you are you you're not you're not you don't seem to be it seems like you're not the person to to make something and like and blast it off like what do you guys think? You want to like uh sit with it for a while and wait until it's a done product.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean like or I mean uh because I I make music like like that. So like I freestyle a lot and shit like that. Like a lot of this album is freestyle. Oh shit. I want to say 80% of this album is freestyle. Okay, hell yeah. That actually means shit. So like um fuck. Uh yeah, I'm fucking losing shit, bro. But um, yeah, it means we're getting better at our fucking job.

SPEAKER_00

For real, for real, for real. Um uh no, I mean that's I mean that's dope. I feel like right now, uh like I'm I've been asking a lot of artists right now, like what should they prefer? Uh like you know, punching in or wr or writing or like writing things out and kind of sitting with it. Um a lot of a lot of them say they prefer to write it down, like I've really got a chance to sit with some first, like, you know, do a lot of their for stuff freestyle and like here, this next project's mostly freestyle. That's dope as shit. Like, how do you um like when you like when you hop in, like you listen back and you're like, like, are you just like that's it, or are you like kind of like kind of doing like a few different things?

SPEAKER_02

I'm kind of doing the freestyles, the like punch in shit too. So like I'll say like four bars and I'm like that's fire. And then I'll be like, I'll say something, then I I'll kind of like repeat something. I'm like, nah, I can't say that. I gotta punch in right here, you know? And then like punch in one bar and then freestyle the rest. So then it's like, oh shit, I got eight bars, I can add a hook, you know, because the attention span is mad fucking so I'm like yo add a hook, another verse if I want to, or just hook, verse, or verse hook, cut it off right there, let the beat fade. Now I got a little song, you know, and it's quick, and then I'll shoot like a trailer video for it. Like if I'm busy and I can't get to any videographers, I'm like, all right, well, I'm kind of bored. I want somebody to hear some unreleased song from the album. Fuck it. Let me shoot a trailer real quick, make a little funny thriller, and then get people engaged. And I'm like, fuck it. Damn. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I was reading asking the content game, bro. It seems like you're gonna try and handle on it. Uh smart. Like, let's just see, like you have like you have a really good strategy. Like, I said I'm I've seen your content, like it looks really good, and you post like it posts in a good consistency and all that stuff. Like, are you are you just using like Instagram and then YouTube? Are you just well no?

SPEAKER_02

I'm using Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, and um I gotta I gotta start posting more like Instagram uh or TikTok. Uh fucking goddamn it. YouTube Shorts. That's probably what I mean to say. It's all good. I don't exactly social medias, but like yeah, the uh YouTube Shorts, I gotta start doing that. Um I've been streaming and shit too. Like I stream on Twitch. Oh, right? Yep, yeah, man. Hey, follow. Are we playing Dragon Ball Against Yan Squadra?

SPEAKER_00

Uh bro, I've been avoiding that game because I I was I played the I played the Pokemon uh MOBA game and shh, I got deep into it, but now I've been playing. What the fuck I'll be playing now?

SPEAKER_02

I'm addicted to it, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I've been playing the fuck out of actually I bought I bought the new Pokemon, the XY, the newest, the newer one. Uh Switch? Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Fire.

SPEAKER_02

I'm watching Lambo player right now, bro. Like, it's kind of tight, bro. I'm not gonna dive. It's kinda tight.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, I I've never been, I've never had more fun doing like online battles now, too. Now it's not turn-based. I can keep the teams that I want to use for real. Like, I can actually go in with a Charizard and not like get like blown the fuck out because it's a Charizard. Yeah, it's fun.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, I so I'm not like a super Pokemon fan, which is like kind of crazy, bro, to say.

SPEAKER_00

But you know, oddly enough, I've I'm actually a Yu-Gi-Oh stand. For real, me too, bro. I be playing. Bro, what? You ain't got no cards. I I you're bugging. Bro, we got a box of cards.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, me too. I have a box of cards. I got like this big box, bro. And I got like two binders, bro. Cause like there was this one time we uh we were celebrating uh for Lambo's album release, bro, like a few years back. I'm gonna say like three or four. Yeah, three years back. And we were downtown, somebody broke in my fucking car, bro. Like my brand new car, somebody broke my shit and stole my backpack, and it had my Yu Gi Oh cords in there, bro. I had just got off work. I had my laptop and some other shit, but like my Yu-Gi-Oh cords, bro. He said, Fuck the laptop, bro. Yeah, man. They were from my childhood, bro. So I was like, fuck, man. Like, I was really sick. But then, like, one of my um homies was uh selling in uh Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and I was like, yo, um if you want, he was like, bro, I'll I'll get these off for the Lowski. So I was like, yo, bet drove hello far, bro. Shot him some extra money. He fucking gave me the cards, bro. I looked through them, I'm like, bro, they're all categorized and everything. I'm like, bro, that's old cards, bro. I'm like, that's lit.

SPEAKER_00

Fucking bro, we gotta do it, bro. Oh bro, we gotta do it. I actually have a crazy, I have a crazy story. I used to, I used to actually not uh when Yu-Gi-Oh, like Yu-Gi-Oh cards came out like back in the day. Um, I got in trouble in school. Like I got like almost I almost got suspended and shit. Damn near damn near expelled, apparently. Uh, and so I got banished from like being able to have Yu-Gi-Oh cards. I got all for for damn. I didn't I didn't realize it was for life. Yeah. Shadow real for life. Oh god. I'm thinking like, okay, no, this is a this is a this is a punishment or trouble that I've got either. Maybe maybe for the school year, maybe two. Yeah. No, every time I got Yu-Gi-Oh cards, my dad would throw them bitches out, it'd be a whole conversation. Like, I remember and I'll have to start hiding them, bro. I was and he was like, No, bro, I it was just like it's a it was it was a brain game for me. It was the it was a dope one. Uh but fast forward, maybe growing up. I'm a leasing agent one uh one at one point in my life. Yeah, and there's people who just got they they just abandoned the apartment. And so when that happens, you get to go through and just like kind of one, check the status of it. Yeah, of course you're gonna see what's in there and grab some shit. Box Yu-Gi-Oh! cards just sit in there. All and literally like it was gold, bro. It was there's at least uh there's at least over a hundred cards in the box. Oh, yeah, bro. Gold. Uh some great ones like malicious hero and all types of shit in there. I was like, oh, what the fuck? Yeah, it was old ones, bro. Not too too big ones, but it was dope. Yeah, nope, it's fucked. I gotta send you some fucking videos of some shit I got, bro.

SPEAKER_02

I got some card cards, bro.

SPEAKER_00

I'll be on a what is it? What's that game? That mobile game master duel? Yeah, me too, bro. I got that shit for years. We gotta protect. I mean, my tune deck is unstoppable. For real? Yeah, I don't know. I'm Pegasus, I'm Pegasus' uh Pegasus' master at this point. Pegasus can talk about it. I keep here, I keep hearing I have a ninja I have a ninja deck specifically for that deck. I think I got beat man.

SPEAKER_02

Uh the ninjas are crazy.

SPEAKER_00

The ninja deck is not who use it. No, I got it. I think they added some shit where they start showing percentages and shit. How many times, like use a card? Yeah, and you nigga, that that shit that's a low percentage. It'd be like 0.2% of people use this card. I was like, oh yeah, I'm in there. Um I think Sword Soul was up there too. Sword Soul.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. I I was using them for a minute.

SPEAKER_00

It's um, they're like spellcasters. I don't think I don't think I saw that series. Yeah, they're I I I don't I I fucked with anything, I fucked with all the dragons. Uh I don't fuck with any of the tools, like any of that new shit. I can't fuck with any shit.

SPEAKER_02

It's hard. I'm like, what the hell do you mean summon this and then take this one from the graveyard, summon this one, and then banish this one and then do all no bro. They have now set it up where you could win on the first turn. And I was like, Yeah, yeah. I was like, Yup. We didn't start. I didn't go. Yeah, it's like you play this one magic card or whatever, and it's like each card that you send to the graveyard, it's like a thousand life points. Yeah, yeah. You inflict a thousand damage life points to your opponent, and then it's like, oh, okay, cool, you discard your whole card or your whole fucking hand. That's what because there's what, like five cards, right?

SPEAKER_01

I I I wish I knew.

SPEAKER_00

I think Stoner's confirmed. Yeah, I'm like, he's a negative. Welcome to the party, welcome to the party. Uh actually, I mean, just because I didn't want to hear us talk about Yu-Gi-Oh for for forever, unfortunately. I wish DM y'all. Um, yeah, bro, honestly, I used to I used to stream too. We could hop on the stream sometimes. I used to, I used to do a whole bunch of shit. Um we should uh but top, you know, now that now knowing that you know some of your stuff is gonna be you know anime inspired and whatnot, top uh top five anime right now.

SPEAKER_02

Dragon Mall C, that's always first one always. Um oh right now, like newer anime? I was just it ain't gotta be new, just as you exist right now, as DC Capital exists with today. Yeah, Dragon Ball Anything. Um U Yu Haka Show, and you Yasha, oh well.

SPEAKER_00

That's all good.

SPEAKER_02

Samurai Champlu.

SPEAKER_01

Um Samurai Champlu is a goaded one. God damn.

SPEAKER_02

For the last one, it's too um uh for the last one. I don't want to say Afro, but Afro is always fire. Um for the last one. Or you say any show, right? Yup, yup. Yeah, you haka show. Like uh Fist of the North Star. Oh, that was a fire. Damn, okay. Damn, all right, all right. I like a lot of like fighting anime and like action anime and shit.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, no, I mean, and I only ask that because like people don't realize is I think like sometimes uh a lot of like anime heads inspire, like the sounds of the anime is inspire knowing that you make beats and also you pick a lot of your and you're in you put a lot of stuff in what you're making. Yeah, uh musically, like things like you just listen up. Honestly, if y'all don't watch anime, if y'all don't know much about anime, uh soundtrack wise, these are some of the best animes out there. Like like they know they aren't like a rapper hip. I actually I take it back.

SPEAKER_02

Second question. Uh loop in the third. Loop in the third is all I I want to add that in there. I'm sorry, instead of Fist of the North Star. I want to switch that. Loop in the third is a actually loop in the third. I have to add that one. What's crazy is the Netflix series made me go back and watch a little bit of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the old one, bro. I'm telling you, I was like, what? They got this on here. I was like, yeah, no, I gotta go back. This anime, I gotta go back. Yeah, yeah, that was that was that's actually good. I like detective shit. And like this, the samples, bro, like the jazz, like so fire. I don't know. That shit was just so fire in between the scenes and everything, like, so fire, bro.

SPEAKER_00

No, I definitely connects like what I was asking you earlier about like and your your your earlier inspirations too. A lot of those are like some of the sounds like your uh that your mom put you on to and your and your parents put you on to. Um, so I mean, like, you know, I know we've been talking here for a little bit. I don't want to hold you here for for too too much longer, bro. Okay, I'm chilling. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Um, so like I mean, like, as far as uh like future visions, like future DC Capital, like what kind of things you wanted to get into? Um like what do we what do we what are we looking at? Shooting. Like are you gonna be coming out of height and you're gonna be doing more shows? You're gonna be popping up and doing shit.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I wanna uh I wanna start throwing shows. Yeah, so I want to start throwing shows. I want to be known to like help other people out where I don't have to be on your shows. I just wanna have the venue where people can showcase their art, because shit, growing up here, we had like a few venues and shit like that, but everybody was always hating, you know, and like shutting the venues down or kicking us out and shit like that. So I want to have like a steady like business where you know for a fact that you can come through at any time and you know I'm saying do that shit. You know, and people are gonna respect it because it's me, you know, not just saying like, oh on DC Capital, they're gonna respect me. It's not like that. I show respect to everybody, you know. So like it's only right. You want to create a circle of respect, yeah. Like, and everybody that I hang around and like surround myself around is respectful. So I wouldn't book anybody that I know that would fuck the place up, you know. So like I want to do that. Um, I want to drop way more albums and not take so long to make an album for real. Cause I like, I don't know, after this album, I want to drop it because or yeah, after this album, I'm gonna drop well like after ooh shit. I'm gonna drop a few more mixtapes like shortly after the album. They're already like geared up and ready to go. Um yeah, it's just the quality switch that I was going through was like kind of slowing me down. I was recording on my laptop and then now I have a PC. So like the quality sounds way different, even though then I'm recording on the same like microphone and everything. It just sounds like the processing comes through a lot better, yeah. And I'm like way better at I believe me. I we've gone through a lot of that. Yeah, yeah. It's like I'm way better at like mixing and mastering my own shit now, too. So like it's it's time that I like put my foot on the gas and just drop, you know? So yeah. Hell yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm excited as fuck to see what's fucking coming next, honestly. I'm I'm really excited to hear this this new project. Uh oh like, so are you are you planning to be no like because it's dropping on 420 and I feel like I feel like I usually have to always ask this question because all rappers smoke damn year. But are you planning to be a stoner rapper?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, podcast, so I gotta know. I gotta go to Sonic Sonic. Excuse me, excuse me. That is a really good question.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not like I don't want to put myself in a box ever. So like I'm gonna say no because I'm just uh I'm just a nigga that like to smoke a lot of weed, but I do make stoner music and I have a lot of like stoner influences and shit like that too. And my background has been like smoking weed, you know, like my whole entire life. Like my parents smoked weed, my fucking grandparents smoke weed and shit like that, and I smoke with them. You know, so it's like well now I do, but um yeah, and I don't know, and they've enjoyed music and shit like that. But as a stoner rapper, I don't yeah, I'm just a nigga that like to smoke weed and make music for real. But I like to make weed smoking music too. So like I do have like a little stoner pocket, I might make a stoner mixtape.

SPEAKER_00

Like you like like the vibe, the vibes that you usually like to give off is something that's why I can smoke too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like yeah, no, I mean I felt about it like that. It's gonna be jazz heavy. I'm sure, I'm sure, uh, I'm sure Erica Badu would never call herself a stoner R and B Right for real. But like I always smoke this Erica Badu. That's for shouts. So I get it. I definitely get it. Yeah. No, I mean I just asked that because I feel like there's not um I feel like there when it comes to when it comes to that, like when it's part when it's part of like your art making or even just part of the vibes you make, I feel like that that's always a good distinction because sometimes, yeah, but you do you can get boxed in. Yeah, uh, I'm I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I'm pretty like I don't know. Okay, I can I can do a lot of shit. I can do anything if I just put my mind to it. I can do some like rock shit if I wanted to, like just give me the beat, you know. I mean, have you ever wanted to do some like really like some really shit? I have done. I have done some shit. I just haven't let anybody hear it. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Like I'm bro, I've I've I think I've made about like six rock songs in my life. Yeah, but uh that's fire. I like rock songs. If I'm that's fine, well shit, I'll I'll find them, bro, and I'll send them to you though.

SPEAKER_00

Please, please, I actually actually was what I don't tell people much is uh I one of my favorite like moments was when K Cuddy released his punk rock album. Yeah, with the Beavis and Butthead skits or that shit. I listened to that shit on repeat for months, bro. I dead ass. And like that, uh and also I didn't I didn't know how many uh like rap like rappers I listen to are inspired by so much other music. Uh I remember like in the early days of Spotify, you used to be able to see when you follow people, you can see what their activity was on the side. And I remember one day I had found this band. Um it's it's called it. The song is called like 2 a.m. and and 2 a.m. and something. Um, but I remember I was following Whiz. Yeah, and I seen he was listening to that song, and I was like, What's that shit? And I clicked on it, bro. It was one of the best songs I'd ever like heard. Uh just on some like indie, like indie, indie rock shit. Like something like something like that.

SPEAKER_02

I know what you talk about, no lie. Cause I I I used to do that shit too, be like, what is this nigga listening to right now? Like, oh shit, like he, oh damn, he got a collab with this person. I didn't even know that. Like, you know, and then click on some shit or like see what this nigga's like actively listening to in the stories and shit like that. Like, damn, this shit has actually fire, and it's somebody else, you know, like that's up and coming. And I'm like, oh damn, like this.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I didn't uh I used to listen to a band called uh Home Shake. Home Shake. Um really great band. If you guys haven't heard of them, definitely check them out. Uh but it ended up the song that one of the songs they didn't end up being like it's like a current, like a current like hot song on the radio. Yeah, uh, it's the beat for that song. Oh shit. I'm like, every time I hear that, bro, I'm like, yo, this is I was like I was like, this nigga listens to that shit. And it's it's surprising. So like that's I guess like it's it's fun and know that it's fun and interesting to hear that you you made a rock song. Like what I guess you're curious, like what like what kind of it's but like what else like shit, how where's that where's that interaction come from for you?

SPEAKER_02

Challenge. I like to challenge myself a lot when it comes to I always I always put everything on some Dragon Ball Z shit, but like bro, I'm not from here, bro. I'm a saying, bro. Like I like to I like to challenge myself, like it's like video games, you know what I mean? Like I like I like to see what I can do or like how far I can go with doing different shit. You know, like oh, cool, let me throw in a rock beat real quick. Oh, this is actually pretty fire. And then I catch a certain like when it when it comes to making music, I rap to a certain sound in the beat. Like it's it's weird. It could be the hi-hats, it could be the kicks, it could be the snare that might be off beating, you know, it could be the fucking bass, bass line, like any of that, bro. It's it's it's crazy. It's it's crazy. I feel that.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know, man. Um shit, bro. I realize I just realized how long we're running. Um I'm gonna I'm gonna kick us out of here. But is there like I do want to know, like, you know, for the people, is there any last things that you uh you know you wanna you wanna say, anything you want to leave us with? Anything you just you know you came out here, you know, you just you gotta say. Um go ahead, bro. Go ahead, man.

SPEAKER_02

Like this piff real quick, man. Um smoke weed every day. All right, I'm not gonna wait, I'm waiting. Fucking um you can do anything that you put your mind to, man. Um, don't ever stop believing in yourself. If you have an idea that you want to do, do it. It's never too late to do it. But don't wait too long. Especially when it comes to making music or shit, drawing or anything that has to do with art or a craft or a hobby that you want to take seriously. Don't wait too long to do it. Just do it and get it out of there. Because you never know how far you could be if you started sooner. You don't want to have that regret when you get older and you're looking back, like, damn, I should have started this years ago, you know? So shit, you got an idea, do that shit now. Right now.

SPEAKER_00

I fuck with that. I fuck with that. Bro, thank you for coming on to the show. Thank you for smuggling with me. Thank you for you know opening up anytime I dive. Yes, sir. Uh, we definitely have to connect after this. Yes, sir. Um, stoners, uh, make sure, oh, actually, before we go, but make sure where where can people go find you just so that they know on all platforms? Where can they go and make sure look you up?

SPEAKER_02

All platforms, DC Capital. Um, Apple Music is kind of tough because there's another artist named DC Capital. It's some MAGA rapper, which is crazy. I know. That's what that's cool. That's who I ran into at first. I was like, this is not who I'm looking for. Yeah, yeah. It's it's I I've been trying to, you know, get my name like finalized and shit like that, and get him off of my shit. It's been years. And like they have not fixed it, but um yeah, DC Capital on all platforms. Uh you can try DCX Capital because that's what I'm gonna change my name to now. DC X Capital. It's still DC Capital. I'm just throwing the X in the middle. Old school Xbox shit. Yeah. DCX. DCX is kind of funny. But we'll see.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, okay. Yeah. DC Capital All Platforms, DCX Capital on Instagram. Uh make sure y'all go ahead and tap in. Uh his his new Instagram reels fire. His uh music videos on YouTube are absolutely chill as fuck. Great to watch. Um, stoners, please do not forget to, as always, stop by the Fire Melon R Studio. Actually, if y'all didn't notice, we supposed to jump behind us. That should look fire as fuck. Um uh y'all, I'm sure, used to all the small mini pictures, but now we got uh some beautiful new additions.

SPEAKER_02

I just tagged the artist in my uh in my story too. So go go for it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we are gonna make sure we have the artist tagged in the episodes below, uh, as well as the Fire Mel Art Studio. Uh that way you can go ahead and come check it out. Come see if you want to um get a closer look at it uh and whatnot. Uh, or support that artist and put some of his art in your home. Um, but also come by stop by the shop, just say what's up to them. Uh, come check all the other beautiful pieces of art they have around the walls, which you can't see to the left and right of me, but it's fire. Y'all seen it in some of the pictures, um, right here on Hawthorne. Uh, and I also have the address on all my shit as I always do. Uh thank you so much for watching. Uh hey, Deathwater. Liquid Death, come fuck with us, please. Don't forget the death man. Uh but yeah, Stoners, as always, stay high and I ain't gonna stop saying it. Fuck ice. You see it.

SPEAKER_02

Fuck ice, man. You bitch.