Jake Weeks Reveals What’s Draining Your Body | Red Light Therapy & Blue Light!

 🚨What if your body isn’t broken… it’s being drained by your environment? In this eye-opening episode of The Liftoff Experience, Jake Weeks reveals how red light therapy, blue light exposure, circadian rhythm, mitochondrial health, sleep optimization, grounding, sunlight, inflammation, and epigenetics changed the way he sees real health.

After years of brain fog, sleep apnea, chronic fatigue, low energy, and full-body pain, Jake discovered that the lights above you, the screens in front of you, and the daily habits you ignore may be quietly affecting your energy, sleep, and healing. Watch until the end to hear the hidden health signals most people miss and how small changes in your environment can change the way you feel every day.
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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

I realize I am a product of my environment. I read this book on epigenetics, and all the dots just started connecting. You can control your genetic expression with your thoughts, you know, because a thought becomes a motion, which is a chemical that will then go downstream and have biological effects, right? So we are a product of our environment. So we need to clean up that environment. We have to be intentional about it.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

So what do we have today? So hey, uh it's Friday. Friday, April 24th. It is uh a nice 78 degrees in Arizona. If you're from Arizona, been Arizona, then you know. Uh super excited. So my wife was like, all right, so you gotta watch a show with Michael. So Michael has optimized, he's amazing. He tied me into certified health nut and a lot of the different uh episodes with different modalities and things that we talk about. And um, my wife went to the last jungle rhythm, so I was supposed to be there and you met. Yes. And so after they met, she was like, Oh my god, you gotta have this gentleman on the show. Jake would be amazing. He does the red light stuff, he had this compelling story, he captivated my attention. I'm like, I'll do a red light every day. I'm like, let's get him on. So we have the man the myth of legend, what's going on? Welcome to today's episode of the liftoff experience. We got Jake in the house, man. How was your drive over?

SPEAKER_03 1:28

Oh, it was a breeze, man. No traffic today. Nice. So you know how it's bad it's been getting lately with all those people moving into the state and all the snowbirds. It's been crazy. So now it's a breeze driving over here.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

I love that. If you don't already know, we have times of the year where it's like less because the snowbirds go back to Canada, which is kind of nice. I think we're getting closer to that, right? I think that a lot of them are leaving.

SPEAKER_03 1:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

Yeah, so we're gonna have less traffic and uh go to the restaurant, have less weights, which is awesome. But let's go ahead and get in your story, man. I'm excited to get into your story. Uh later on the show, everyone, we're gonna get into some of the uh we have actually technology to do some testing here in this studio as far as different frequencies and what's around us. Also, we're gonna get in some red light panels, we're gonna bring them into the shot. Um, I see that you have some cool glasses on, you have a drink we just talked about, so much stuff. Grab some popcorn or a healthy drink, buckle up because we're gonna teach you a bunch of stuff. And let's get into your story first and foremost.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Awesome. So, I mean, the crux of it is uh I use light and circadian rhythm to reverse all of my chronic illnesses.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

Okay, what? Okay, first off, what type of chronic illnesses were you dealing with? So we can give some context to viewers and listeners. So if they're going through some of these things, by the end of the episode, they can maybe have some practical actions and some steps to take to maybe follow your journey and have some of the same results.

SPEAKER_03 2:47

Yeah, for sure. So it all started. Um I majored in kinesiology in college. And so, you know, we take all the different classes biology, anatomy, physiology, exercise physiology. Yeah. And um, after college, I had an opportunity to come down and work here as a trainer. And so I took it. And, you know, in college, I was, you know, very sharp, very focused, uh, you know, very healthy young guy.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

And um, I came down here. I started working as a trainer. I started working indoors all day long and also well into the night. And it was only a few months until I was just feeling like in the mornings I couldn't wake up, um, brain fog all day. Just, you know, something was off, right? And it was such a fast change. Uh, I go to the doctor, and well, you've got adult onset ADD. What? Right. And so, you know, knowing nothing back then and still believing in the Western medical system, uh, you know, he gave me the prescription for Adderall, which is uh a very hardcore stimulant. And so, you know, of course, if you got brain fog and you're sluggish all day, like it works, right? So it it's a band-aid, it fixes you in that moment, but uh it is definitely not any long time cure or solution. Yeah. And so um, gosh, just four or five, six months after that, I'm dating a girl, she's sleeping next to me, and she's like, dude, you've got sleep apnea. You should go get a sleep study done.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Really?

SPEAKER_03 4:16

Yeah. So apparently it was really bad. And so I scheduled the sleep study, did it, and I would stop breathing over 70 times per hour. Wow. So suffocating in my sleep more than once a minute. Wow. And you know, I never even connected, you know, the adult onset ADD to the poor sleep. Uh, but but no wonder I was, you know, waking up exhausted. I couldn't wake up in the mornings. I had a uh special alarm clock for deep sleepers. Okay. I can't remember, it rang at like 115, 120 decibels. Okay. And then it had this vibrating disc that you would put under your pillow or under your mattress. So I put it under my pillow. Yeah. And when it would go off, it would be so loud. My neighbors, I lived in a condo, my neighbors could hear it through the wall. And uh, the disc would shake. And there were mornings where I would not wake up. Wow. The alarm would shut off after an hour. And so literally, I would sleep through that for an hour.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Neighbors are knocking on the door, like Jake, what's going on? No response. Are you dead in there? What's happening?

SPEAKER_03 5:22

Uh, so I suffered from extremely poor sleep. And so went back to the doctor. They, you know, they give me the CPAP. And, you know, I wore that for a few months. It's pretty invasive. It's uh pain in the ass to sleep with on. And so eventually I just stopped using it and I threw it in my closet. I just kept doing the same thing over and over. Uh, a couple years after that, you know, things are getting worse. Um, I went back to the doctor. Well, now it's chronic fatigue syndrome. You know, they always gotta give it a name, right? They gotta give it that diagnosis. Um, and so nothing changed in my protocols, continue taking the the Adderall. Um and then, like, I don't know, another year or two after that, things are continuing getting worse. Now I'm in whole body pain all the time, which is really just whole body inflammation. And so this time he labeled it fibromyalgia. Interesting, which is usually something they give to the older women that are in chronic pain. Right. Um, and you know, protocol never changed. I didn't want to take more medications for that, right? Yeah, yeah. And so, anyways, um it wasn't until I was at, you know, my rock bottom. Uh, you know, my health was spiraling down, my life was spiraling down, my relationships were spiral down. It wasn't until I was at my rock bottom that I realized what I was doing was not working. Okay. Wow. And how old at this time, how many years? It was right around 32. Okay, and how many years has it been going on? So uh it was going on for eight years.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

Wow. Yeah, 24 to 32. Jeez Louise, who is just just going deeper, deeper, deeper down this rabbit hole, getting a bunch of you know, dead ends, medical systems not helping you.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

They're not giving you anything that could really, they're just like, you're just like, all right, you're just another customer that they want to keep coming back. Wow. Right? Wow. And the the craziest part is you know, I thought I was such an expert at health and wellness in my own mind because I had the degree and um it took me, you know, about eight years to learn that health and fitness are not directly correlated. Interesting. Okay. You can be extremely fit, but extremely unhealthy. Okay. Because I was doing all the things that I learned in school that you need to do to have optimal health, right? So it's about moving your body, working out, okay, getting your cardiovascular activity in, um, eating what I thought was a good diet back then. Okay. Um my what's the word I'm looking for? It'll come to you. It'll come to me. Anyways, um, my my diet's drastically improved since. Wow. Um so yeah, I I thought I was the expert, and I had to come to that realization that maybe I don't know everything. Right. And so I became open-minded. I love that. I love that. And it wasn't until I was ready to receive the information that the information was given to me. You know, the universe delivers when when you're ready for it. Amen. And so I had a really good friend who had been, he'd been trying to get me to read books. And I was not a reader back then at all. Say what? No, not doing that. No, no, I was like a gym bro, but like stupid fit. Like I was the fittest person that I knew.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Wow. And I was also the sickest person that I knew. I mean, that's so interesting. And you would think that, like, how would that even correlate? But the first thing that comes to my mind is is like bodybuilders. You know, they're they're going on stage, their body fat percentage, like what they have to do to their body to manipulate the water and everything else to get at that low of body fat percentage. And it reminds me, I actually had a friend in high school. Used to look up to him, he was the general manager at a gym, his name was Chad. Everyone thought he was like the best looking, you know, he was like Ken, you know, he was like, Man, this guy looks good, the whole nine, but he was taking so much shit that God bless his soul, we lost him.

SPEAKER_03 9:30

Wow. Wow, that's unfortunate. Yeah, yeah. And that stuff's not good for you. And I was doing it too. But um, and yeah, that's gonna have an effect on your health. But knowing what I know now, um, that was definitely a part of it. But there's more fundamental underlying things. And so um, this book that he he had me read was a book on epigenetics by Bruce Lipton. It was called Biology Belief. Have you heard of that name? No. Do you know epigenetics? Yeah. Okay. So for anybody that doesn't know what epigenetics is, it basically epimens above. So something above the genetic level is actually can controlling your genetic expression. So, you know, they had this failed um It's like a 20, 25 year experiment where they're trying to identify every single gene in the human body. Okay. Right? Because they can identify about 200,000 proteins, and so they think that there's one gene that codes for every single protein. And so over 20 or 25 years, they're they can only identify about 26, 27,000 proteins, which is about the same as a fruit fly. Wow. So from a genetic complexity, we're about the same as a fruit fly, right? We just express differently. Way to hurt the ego.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

I love that. I love that.

SPEAKER_03 10:49

So in Western Western medicine is still looking at the human body from the genetic standpoint, which is a theory, it's never been proven. Okay, right? And so epigenetics really means that it's our environment that is controlling our genetic expression. And so, what I mean by environment is it's literally things like light and temperature fluctuation, and uh whether or not we're connected to the magnetic field of the earth, it's circadian rhythm, it's um it's movement, it's the food that you eat. Yeah. And so I really don't believe in genetic diseases anymore. Interesting. There are, I mean, there's definitely a few exceptions. Okay, okay. You know, if you're born with mental retardation, okay, you literally have a chromosomal issue. Okay. Um but uh a researcher, uh Doug Wallace, he's the world's leading mitochondrial researcher. Okay, and he's proven that 95% or more are modern-day diseases, okay, not things that people were dying, you know, of hundreds of years ago, right? Um, things that people are dying of today that started about a hundred years ago. Okay. Cancers, heart disease, diabetes, um, neurodegeneration, um, they're all mitochondrial based. And so basically, when our mitochondrias stop functioning, um, our cells lose their voltage, they lose their charge because we're electrical. And the remedy um is those cells start to ferment. Okay. And ultimately a cancer cell is a cell that can only ferment sugar into lactic acid uh as an energy pathway. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Yes. All right. So anyways, that was the side topic. Um, that was a fascinating topic. And I have to say, just as a side note, the fact that, you know, and this is controversial for some. And at the end of the day, we just would like anyone who's listening, just to have an open mind here. Um, you you said something about the medical system and just more importantly, how what you don't believe. And it's so interesting how we're given these medications from the perspective of a belief. And they tell us like this is what you need to do. Here's your protocol for cancer or for incongestion or whatever it is. And they give you this pill, they tell you to take it. And the fact that you're coming from a different perspective, saying, like, you don't believe in that, that's so powerful because it opened up the doorway to all the modalities now that you have gone down and and you yeah, you preach and now look at you.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

Yeah. Well, fun fact so you know, pharmacy comes from the root word pharmacy in Latin, which means sorcery. Interesting. Okay. They're literally practicing sorcery on the population. And it's it's because they look at the body through a mechanistic model that can be altered by putting in petroleum-derived, you know, drugs into the body. Okay. Okay, because they they can't use real things because you can't patent nature. So anything you create, you can control. So you patent it. That's a natural law. Interesting. And maybe we'll talk about natural law later.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

Someone think about out there. But yeah, um, I believe that diseases really what they are, they're adaptations to an improper environment. It's your body trying to adapt um to the deficiencies and the toxicities uh that we're exposed to.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Oh my God. It's interesting. It almost reminds me just to take this into a we'll talk tech here. Um, I got another podcast called Rules Have First Tech. So I'm gonna take a little bit of that DNA and put it into the lift-off experience. It's like when you have a computer, right? And then what happens? You have when you have a virus. Well, the virus attacks a computer and then the virus causes issues, and you might be able to like not turn it off or can control it. And then someone else comes in and they control your computer. They're going into like, who knows, banking information, this and that, because your computer has all your passwords or whatever. It almost reminds me of kind of like a virus coming in, and it's almost like um, like a glitch in the matrix that's just causing these illnesses within the body. And then they tell us, hey, just go see your doctor, they'll tell you what you need to do. Then they put a band-aid on it. You feel maybe okay, decent, maybe better in the moment, but then it starts to exacerbate, like it did for you, all these additional things. So I'm just I'm just taking it from a perspective of wanting to give some context for the viewers and listeners out there of like a virus. Um, and and so we we know what the matrix, right? We we heard about that, we watched the movie, everything else. It's like there's so much more that I think people need to understand that like we can't see. It's not a physical thing, and and that's where I feel like later in the show can't get wait to get into some of the stuff that you could show them, some of the technologies you have to be able to show things that you can't even see with the naked eye, which is just so powerful, hence why he's wearing those glasses right now.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

Yep, yep. Um I don't like the viral um component of only because I have a different view on viruses.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Well, let's hear it.

SPEAKER_03 15:54

But to what I would say is, you know, with computing, right, rather than a virus, how about garbage in, garbage out, right? Okay. So if you get the wrong program or the wrong code into a computer, it's not gonna function properly. You're not gonna get the right output on the screen. Okay. Okay. And so that's what I mean by signals or information from our environment. Okay, the main signal that's always been there was light. Okay. If you read the Bible, that's the first thing God made was light. It was good. And then he separated, you know, light and darkness because yin and yang, nature loves balance. Yeah, right. And so light is the most fundamental signal to any cellular life on this planet, and we've forgotten about that. You know, I come from the fitness industry where everybody's hyper focused on diet and exercise. And yeah, we say get good sleep, but what is good sleep and how do you set your day and your night up to actually get good sleep? Because if you're living like the standard American or the standard, you know, modern person today, uh, everything that you're doing is working against how well you're gonna sleep that night. Interesting. Yeah. Um so anywho, um I love that contrast. So epigenetics, the signals, garbage in, garbage out. So let's talk about okay, let's talk about my environment. Okay. So when I I went to school at Washington State University, okay. Yep. So, you know, you're always outside, even in the shitty weather, like you're walking to your classes. So you're you're getting outside for 10, 15 minutes at a time all the time throughout the day. Yeah. Okay. So when I moved down here, I was working at Lifetime Fitness. Okay. Big building, lots of EMFs, uh fluorescent lights in the ceilings back then. They probably have LED now. They're both toxic, they're both poison. Uh, you know, probably 40 different TV monitors, you know, throughout the gym. You know, sometimes 100 or more people on the workout floor. Everybody's got a cell phone. Yep. And then you're inside, so you're disconnected from the magnetic field of the ground. Okay. So I was a hustler, I was a grinder, I wanted to make money. Um, I was working pretty much 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. Okay. Um, sometimes it was typically eight to 12 people in a row, one-on-one. Wow. And so, you know, if I had a couple hour break in the middle of the day, I'd be so exhausted that I would drive home in my car behind glass, go into uh go in home in my house and you know, sleep for a couple hours, then go back to work. And so Monday through Friday is what I was working. I never saw the sun. Interesting. I didn't go outside when I got up in the morning, right? Um, and so I had my time and my energy. Anybody that has like sleep issues and which is uh linked to chronic inflammation, they tend to have that period after lunch where they get real drowsy and real tired, lethargic. Yeah, and then they start to get wired at night. And it's their circadian rhythm issue. And so I I was wired at night, and that's when I also had my time to work out. So I was a competitive bodybuilder, so I gotta you know lift heavy. Yeah. And so um, I was working, I was taking a pre-workout at like nine o'clock. Oh, wow. And working out till maybe 10:30, go home, eat a big meal because I'm trying to stay anabolic, have all the lights on, have my TV on, probably my phone, go to bed at like midnight or one, wake up at eight and do it all over again. Wow. And so I had the most abnormal, fucked up environment. Um, you know, most people have really terrible environments today because we spend an average of 93% of our day indoors or behind glass that blocks full spectrum sunlight and turns it into an artificial light. Okay, so everybody's got a bad environment, and most people are using way too much blue light at night, uh, which we can talk about later. That's completely unnatural and it fucks up your hormones and your sleep and your circadian rhythm, and most importantly, your melatonin cycle.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

But I was extremely severe because I was breaking the three biggest circadian rhythm disruptors. So, first I was in a fluorescently lit gym until 10:30 or so at night every night. Okay. Uh, well, let's say four, because I said I was probably taking a pre-workout. So I'm taking like caffeine, high amounts of caffeine, right? Yeah. Um, and then I'm stressing my body through exercise, very intense exercise. And we are not supposed to stress ourselves at night in the dark. That's when we should we should be resting and repairing. And then the fourth one was I was eating a really big meal late at night. Yeah. Eating is a daytime activity, insulin is a daytime hormone. So we have we're, I mean, we're we're diurnal animals, which means we have daytime mode and we have nighttime mode. Daytime mode is about stressing our bodies, being uh alert and awake so we can hunt, we can gather, we can build, um, we can digest food. And so all daytime hormones are signaled for by uh sunlight. Okay, especially the color blue. We have specialized uh blue photoreceptors that are not used for vision, like rods and cones, but they're photoreceptors that detect certain frequencies of light um for specific biological functions. Got it. And so, like insulin is released by blue light. And so we can actually increase our insulin resistance even without eating, just by chronically being exposed to to artificial blue light, especially at night. And so um it was my own lifestyle. Now, I mean, I was chiseled, I was ripped, I was muscular. Yes, I was had some uh performance enhancers in there, uh, but I was cardiovascular fit. Like I was not just a meathead. And you know, my sleep doctor could not figure out, he's never seen anybody in his office that looked like me. Wow that. Had such a he, I was one of his worst cases ever. And you looked amazing. And I looked amazing. Wow. Give me bucks on the outside, but I was like Swiss cheese on the inside. And I was doing it to myself. This my dad's got sleep apnea, but I'm telling you, this is not genetic. You know, we just both had poor environments. Wow. And so, you know, the apnea is is an adaptation. High blood pressure, it's an adaptation. Um, chronic fatigue, it's an adaptation, right? It's not a disease, it's just an adaptation to an improper environment. Yeah. I mean, there's four four reasons we get sick. Okay. Um the first one is trauma. Okay. Okay. So if I got hit by a car, but I lived, right? I'm gonna have a lot of damage in scar tissue, and things are not gonna work right. Okay. So that's gonna lead to sickness.

unknown 22:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:54

The second is deficiency. And I think a lot of people think when they talk about deficiency, they're thinking about food like amino acids, fatty acids, vitamins, minerals, but there's also sunlight deficiency. Okay. And there's a grounding or earthing deficiency. There's um darkness at night deficiency. Um something most people don't think about is temperature fluctuation deficiency. Okay. Like we were designed to be exposed to warmer days and cooler nights, hotter seasons, colder seasons. This is a natural law, the law of rhythm is everything comes in cycles, just like the seasons, the the moon cycle, the menstrual cycle. Um you know, most people are keeping their AC at 75 degrees all year long. So it's like perpetual summer, it's a flat line. Anything that's flatlined in nature is death. Just look at a pool of water, it's a cesspool, right? But when you have moving, running water, it's it's clean, it's clear, it's full of life, it's full of energy. Yeah, yeah. And so, I mean, this is what I'm talking about. Like we have these completely unnatural environmental signals, but environments is we're spending the majority of our doors inside under artificial light. That's why I got the glasses on. Okay, these glasses block blue light, and they basically help prevent my brain and my nervous system being from being totally stressed out. Okay, because that that blue light that's not balanced with red, uh, I mean, and that's the issue, is all of our artificial light in the name of energy efficiency has been uh adapted to typically spike in the blue, and maybe it has some some green and some yellow, but it's got very little red, and they remove the infrared completely because of the heat component. But energy efficiency doesn't necessarily equate to biologically compatible because the only light source we were ever designed to be exposed to, you could argue fire as well, but they are infrared dominant, they're heat sources, and and infrared is an energy source. Yeah. Um, life is about the exchange of energy with your environment, right? The difference between you and a cadaver is energy. Interesting. Okay. And yeah, we should talk about that. You know, our cells are basically like we we make a water battery, and when that process stops is is when we're no longer living. Wow. And so I read this book on epigenetics, and all the dots just started connecting because I realized I am a product of my environment and you know, my my physical environment. It's also mental, too. Um, you know, you can control your genetic expression with your thoughts, you know, because a thought becomes an emotion, which is a chemical that will then go downstream and have biological effects, right? Um, so we are a product of our environment, and so we need to clean up that environment. We have to be intentional about it. Yeah. Um, and so right after that book, the same guy introduced me to a couple lectures by a neurosurgeon turned quantum biologist named Dr. Jack Cruz. Wow. Have you heard of him? No, okay. Mama send you some lectures. I mean, these two lectures literally are the information that I use to reverse every chronic illness in less than 60 days.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Wow. Send to me, we'll make sure to put it in the uh in the show. So for y'all that want to get it on YouTube, we'll put it in the links. Great idea. Available.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

And so basically, what Dr. Cruz teaches is about light, water, and magnetism. Okay. Because at the most fundamental level, life is about energy, it's about physics. Okay. And the physics of how we create energy are about the photonic energy of the sun, okay, the water that's in our cells, and the magnetic field of the earth. Because our cells are biological batteries. And a healthy cell is a cell that has a strong negative charge. It's a fully charged battery, just like your iPhone. A chronically inflamed cell is a cell that has a hard time holding a charge, has a very low negative millivoltage. Okay. And a cancer cell is a cell that can no longer charge. And so the only energy pathway it has to use, it's an adaptation, okay, because it's trying to survive, right? Um, and so it has to go back to a more primordial energy pathway called anaerobic metabolism, which is the fermentation of sugar, glucose into alcohol and lactic acid. And so, just like you ferment grapes into wine or barley into beer, yeah, uh, a cancer cell is always fermenting. And so when your mitochondrial well, let's let's talk about this is a good time to talk about it. Yeah. So if life is about the exchange of energy with the environment, okay, every cell is a battery, every cell in your body is powered by mitochondria. Yep. Hundreds, thousands, or even more, depending on the type of cell that it is. Wow. Okay. And so most people have heard of mitochondria, though, the powerhouse of the cell. Yeah, they are, but they're way beyond that. And so very simple processes. Most people learned about photosynthesis uh in grade school. Yep. Okay. So we know that plants turn sunlight into energy. But really, what's happening is plant cells, they're energy organelles called a chloroplast. Okay. And what that chloroplast does is it takes uh carbon dioxide and water out of the environment and they turn it into oxygen and sugar for us. Okay. So that chemical reaction needs an energy source, and sunlight is that energy source. So, you know, we know the more sunlight and water and CO2 that a plant can get, the bigger, the healthier, stronger it's gonna grow. Okay, probably produce more fruits, more flowers. It's gonna be more disease resistant. Okay. Look at nature. Look at um, this is just a side topic, but you look at like bugs attacking plants, they don't attack healthy plants, they attack the dying sick plants. Because their job is to break those sick plants back down into the most basic building blocks of matter, right? And so we want to be like the healthy plant, not like the sick dying plant, because then the bugs are gonna try to break us back down into the basic building blocks of matter.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Wow. And hope hop hope you all are following along here because it it's so amazing. You just break it down to the simplest form, and it just it's like, oh my god, it it's right there in front of us the whole entire time.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

It's just first principles thinking, yeah, right. And I do it all based off of natural laws or the seven hermetic principles. We should get into that later.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

Yeah, we have time. I love that. Wow, cool. This is this is fascinating stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

And so that is a cycle, that's how plants live, right? And so mitochondria share a symbiotic relationship with the plants. We just reverse the process. Okay. So we take the sugar and the oxygen that the plant made and we turn it back into carbon dioxide and water. Okay. Now, this process, what they didn't teach us, is also stimulated by sunlight, specifically the red and the near infrared frequencies. Okay. And so that's what red light therapy is is it's mimicking, it's supplementing it. And I say supplementing intentionally because sunlight is king. Yeah. Right. I I would I tell my customers and my members to prioritize sunlight and then use a red light therapy device as a supplement. You know, if I was gonna eat a healthy diet, I'm probably not just gonna drink protein shakes, right? Except for this one. This is a super shake.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

Um, you know, I'm probably gonna eat organic whole foods, and then if I can't get enough protein or if I can't get enough magnesium, then I might have a supplement. Okay. And that's what red light therapy is. I love that. And that's just a very small basic component of sunlight. And we we gotta talk about all about sunlight, not just red light.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Yeah, for sure. And we're gonna get into the the red light, the modalities, what he's doing. Um, we have panels here for later on the show so we can show you. Uh, in regards to the drink, so before we got on air, we talked a little bit about it. And I said, Do you want anything to drink? And he's like, uh he's like, Um, I'm pretty high maintenance when it comes to what I'm drinking. And I'm like, okay, cool. And then so then I asked him the question about what he has there. So, so what do you have there? What was a catalyst to even like figure out that that kind of remedy to what you're drinking today?

SPEAKER_03 31:38

Well, so I eat a mostly raw diet as much as I can. Um, there's been times in my life where I've been a lot stricter, but this is something I started probably over three years ago.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

Based off the work of uh a dietitian named Auginus Vonder Planets. Crazy name. Have you heard of him? No, fascinating guy. He reversed all of his diseases. Um, you know, he was like uh autistic and I think type one diabetic. Interesting. Um, and a bunch of other shit happened to him as a kid, like really like some messed up health. Um, he reversed everything through nutrition. Okay. I reversed everything through light, and we'll we'll finish that at the end of the story. Yeah. Um, he he fixed everything through nutrition because that's one of the one of the major pillars of health, right? Yeah. Um, but basically what he figured out is you know, we should be eating raw, just like every other animal on this planet. We're humans are the only ones that live under fake light, and we're the only ones that cook our food, and we're the only ones that even pay to fucking live on this planet. It's crazy, right? It does not make sense. It's so true. And so um, if you just think about it, um, you know, what happens when you cook something? You kill the proteins, you kill the enzymes, you kill the bacteria, right? Bacteria are not our enemies, they're our friends. Bacteria, their job is to help break things down. Okay, and so the bacteria in your gut help to break down what's there, right? So um, so he eats raw meat and raw eggs and raw dairy, so raw milk, raw cheese, raw butter, okay, raw honey. Okay. Um, loves raw coconut cream. Okay. And, you know, this is a a diet that he's prescribed to thousands of people. And he's, you know, in many cases, not all cases, but in many cases, he's helped people reverse cancers and reverse other conditions. Okay. Uh, just through nutrition alone. Now imagine if you powered nutrition with the principles of quantum and circadian biology. That's what I help people do. Is like I help I try to help people see the big picture because at first I saw a big the foundation of the picture, but then I had to keep learning more truths after that and expanding my widen my scope. And so um, you know, we were designed to consume our food raw. Uh, when you cook it, it denatures it, it's less bioavailable. Um, and the nutritional values are reduced significantly. Now, there's some things like starches, a potato. You you cook it, now you're gonna get better digestion. Okay. Some of the vegetables as well. I can't remember which ones, but uh, I don't eat a lot of vegetables. But um definitely artichoke. Yeah, you can't eat a hard artichoke.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

One of my favorites.

SPEAKER_03 34:27

Um, and so yeah, I just this was a eating raw was a game changer. Wow. So that's all raw in there, raw kombucha. Oh, yeah, that's all raw. So that's eight raw egg yolks, raw milk, raw honey, raw coconut butter. Okay. I would use coca raw coconut cream if I could find it. Okay. Anything you get, you can get her, it's in a can too. Tin can it's gonna leach tin into your oh uh drink. You don't want that, yeah. Um, so I use raw coconut butter because I can find it uh in glass as well. Okay. And then there's uh raw beef liver, it's actually uh a freeze-dried powder. Oh, yeah, yeah, much very more convenient. I give it to myself and to the dogs, freaking love it. Really? That's awesome. Yeah, um, bee pollen. I think about six different types of functional mushrooms. Wow, some cinnamon, uh, but it just it tastes like honey, cinnamon, and creamy. It's delicious. I love creamy.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

It's already like 50, 60, 70 grams of protein in there. Holy cow!

SPEAKER_03 35:28

I don't count my macros, not big on that at all. Um, I just eat the things that I'm supposed to, and I don't eat the things that I'm not supposed to. And easy. Audinus talks about like he wants people to gain weight. Uh right. If you look at the the people that live the longest, the centenarians, they're not guys that are five or eight percent body fat. They're like 20% body fat. You know, fat is super important because um, you know, fat cells act as like garbage bags for all the toxins that we're exposed to. Okay. And our environments are completely toxic, right? Not just the chemtrails they're spraying above our heads and the fluoride in the water and the glyphosate in the food. Um, but if we're wearing plastic clothes, right? We got paint on the walls, we got carpets, like everything, you know, in our houses are off-gassing unless they're like completely like natural. Yeah. Um, so we're just always accumulating toxins, and the the more fat mass that we have, the easier we can absorb toxins. Interesting. Okay. Which also makes you think that a lot of people, um, the reason they're overweight, um, maybe they don't, you know, overeat, maybe are eating the right things. Well, their body has to absorb whatever toxic load they're exposed to. And so it's uh again an adaptation.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Wow. Yeah man, talk about uh slipped off moment there. Y'all, y'all are gonna have to watch this a couple times just because there's so much to unpack here, and it completely changes just everything, the way that we are perceiving, looking, living, and just being. I think this is just so powerful. And uh wow, appreciate all this all this knowledge, man. You're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 37:11

I love to be the teacher for anybody that'll listen. Yeah, I mean, that's what it is, and I think information should be free. It should. Like there's so many gurus out there that want to charge an arm and a leg for their course. And yeah, I get it. You you do have to get something because you put a lot of time and energy and effort into the course, but the price is that some of these people charge is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 37:29

Oh my god, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 37:30

And I mean, it's also a very capitalistic mindset. Um, right. And you know, we don't we don't come from capitalistic origins. Like it it's been flipped, right? Yeah, I mean, we come from small tribes of people all over the place, right? Um, where there was really no sense of self. It was, I don't think that was even a concept in their mind because it was all about community. You know, the guys go out on the hunt, and if you killed the big animal, you didn't take it back to your tribe and keep it for yourself and your family and then put the rest into your bank account, your your meat storage. Yeah, you had a feast with everybody, everybody celebrated, right? And your reputation was about how well you provided and protected your tribe. And I think that's what humans were meant to do. We were never meant to live in these giant societies.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

Amen. I I'm I'm right there with you. And that's one thing that I one reason why we started this podcast is like lift off agents to sponsor. There's nothing, I'm not selling anything here, there's no courses here. Y'all want to like, subscribe, hit the notification bell. It's free. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I'm doing this to be selfless and also because I get amazing opportunities to be with someone like yourself to be able to add value to the greater consciousness in society. And uh, I'm doing an event, I love cars, and so on May 16th, we're gonna have probably 50 people here, probably about 30 to 40 supercars. And I just love the opportunity. One of the guys is his birthday, love the opportunity to bring community together. I think that we've like you said, like, we're not supposed to be the way that we are in this society that we have. And it's like people totally forget, like, hey, you know, love thy neighbor, you know, and just just be loving and kind. And if I have all this energy, I want to share it with the world, do the best I can to give it, best I can to be able to share it, and whether it's the content, the podcast, the event at the house. It's like, I yeah, I think we need to go back there.

SPEAKER_03 39:36

Can you imagine if everybody just followed that one law, love thy neighbor? Oof, there'd be nothing wrong, wrong in the world. Nothing. But how can you love your neighbor if you don't love yourself? Oof. Right? So we gotta love ourselves and we gotta start taking care of ourselves and being more intentional, right? Not just being the NPC that's running on autopilot and running on their programming that they've been programmed through the indoctrination system we call school, through the television, through the internet. Yep, right. We gotta start being the superheroes in our own lives, being the the main actor.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

Oh, dude, I I absolutely love that. I absolutely love that. And that's where I feel like so many people have totally just forgot. And I love the word intentional. Like that is like it's like there's so many opportunities and so many things that you could do, and so many people just like totally don't even think about like what they're doing, where where they're going, why are they going there? Why are they touching their phone? What are they looking at when they're touching their phone? Like, what are you eating and why are you eating it? And I like to look, and I say something like, I like to eat to optimize. Like, I'm eating to optimize to give my body exactly what it needs. Because for me, I want to reverse aging and I talk to myself and I have apps for my phones. It's all about affirmations, and so very intentional with every single thing and very calculated, but also very just free about it all.

SPEAKER_03 41:03

You're intentional about creating the right environment for your body to either heal or to remain healthy.

SPEAKER_01 41:09

Amen. Yeah, yeah. As soon as he came and he brought in his meter and he was going around, he's put his glasses on. I'm like, all right, so how how's the energy in here? What's the meter look like? How much M E M F or what's going on with the blue, the red, the this, the that. And so I'm gonna go order the grounding mats after our show today and put those down here so that way anyone that takes their shoes off, like I always have my shoes off and put my feet down here and have the grounding mat. Like I feel like every just it's just a little bit, just take what you can to just keep on adding value. So a couple side notes for y'all. Just you know, I love it.

SPEAKER_03 41:41

Yeah, always be learning, right? Yeah, and always be trying to improve and better yourself. So 100%. Anywho, um, I think we were talking about reversing photosynthesis, yeah, right? And so um Western science uh has erroneously shown that this product of mitochondrial metabolism called ATP adenosine triphosphate is the primary energy currency of the body. It's a it's a chemical energy, okay? And yeah, we're we're chemistry, but we're also we're electricity, we're we're physics. And so um I think it was Gilbert Ling. I might be wrong, but I think it was Gilbert Ling in the the 70s that um he proved that if ATP was the energy source of the body, it would uh break the second law of thermodynamics by like 3,000 fold. Interesting. And so um now with new work coming out since like you know early 2000s, um Dr. Gerald Pollock from the University of Washington, he's been studying water for over 40 years. Water's a very fascinating uh subject topic. Um, but anyways, uh ATP is not the main energy source of the body, water and heat are. And so Gerald Pollock, he showed, well, there's two things that he he didn't discover them, he really confirmed them from a theory that was over a hundred years old. Um, but we're taught that there's three phases to every element in nature, okay? So liquid, solid gas, so liquid water, ice water, and water vapor. Okay. Okay, and that's true for every element, except for water has more. And so Gerald Pollack confirmed that there's a fourth phase of water that's in between a liquid and a solid. Okay. So it's like a gel, like jello. Okay. But what's different is this water is not actually H2O. There's a conversion that happens that where it turns into H3O2, and it's called structured water because it's water that has structure. It literally makes a hexagonal crystalline lattice, and it's called exclusion zone water, also, because it's such a tight-knit web that it excludes anything down to the size of a proton. A proton is a hydrogen ion. Okay. Okay, so that's the smallest, lightest element. And so Um, electrons are like I think two thousand times or a thousand or two thousand times smaller than a proton.

SPEAKER_00 44:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 44:07

And so you have this tight crystalline lattice um that excludes anything down to size of the proton. So nothing can get in there, but it's full of electrons. Okay. Electrons are energy, they're negative charge, and then the proton is the positive charge. Okay. The body's a battery, it works off positive and negative. That's why we got to ground ourselves. And um, the first thing he discovered is that when water touches a hydrophilic surface, it naturally this phenomenon happens where some of that water that's touching the surface starts to restructure. And so what happens is you get this zone of negative charge of H3O2, the structured water. Okay, but then right adjacent to it, you have what we call the bulk water where the positive charge sits. Because remember, the pot it the structured water excludes anything down to the size of a proton. Okay, so it creates a separation of charge. Look on a Duracell, you got positive on one side, you got negative on the other, right? It's a battery. And so we are ourselves are water batteries that are charged by light. Okay. So your mitochondria made that water. They took the oxygen that you breathe, and then they took the hydrogen ion uh from your food and recombined it to make water. And the more effectively they do this, the more charged your battery is. Okay. Then the second thing that one of his students accidentally discovered is he was shining an incandescent light bulb lamp on the experiment. Okay, because they use like these little microspheres in the experiments so they could show the microspheres wouldn't go into this crystalline lattice. Got it. Right? That's how they could prove it. And so the student was shining an incandescent light bulb on it, which has incandescent has a lot of infrared. And he noticed when he did that, it expanded it like tenfold. And so what that tells you is that it's light, specifically far infrared light. Okay, far infrared is what you find in the infrared saunas. Um, that's what we perceive as heat. That's why the sun feels hot, that's why fire feels hot. Okay. And your mitochondria also make far infrared light. That's what keeps your body about 98.6 degrees. Okay. And so your mitochondria make this water in your cell. Okay. The water touches proteins. Every protein is hydrophilic. And so this structured water forms around hydrophilic surfaces. And so this natural separation of charge starts to happen. But then, because metabolism is a thermal reaction, meaning it releases heat, it releases far infrared. That far infrared energy that's released increases the size of the structured zone. It increases the charge of the battery. Okay. And so our mitochondria are activated by red and near infrared light of the sun. I'm not going to get into like the weeds of like how it happens, but it basically increases our efficiency to 100% of turning oxygen into water and heat. Now, I think most people are aware that we emit light because you know, if you think about an infrared camera, like if I had an infrared camera, you're glowing. Okay. We also release other colors of light. We release uh ELF, extreme low frequency ultraviolet light. And I believe it's when you the more UV light you give off, um, the sicker you are. And um the more infrared you give off, um, the healthier you are. Interesting. Yes, and bugs can see you UV light. Really? Right? And that's how they know which plants to eat. Okay, the sick plants are giving off more UV light. Okay. And so it attracts the bugs to break them down because they're dying. Got it. Same thing. Second natural law is the law of correspondence. As above, so below. So what's going on in the macrocosm is going on in the microcosm. Everything's a fractal. And so um, you know, the bugs are eating the the dead tissues, the dead cells inside of you. Because, you know, cells are always dying and and turning over, right? And we create new ones, new healthy ones. Yeah, so as above, so below.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

So you think that has to do with I don't know why I just thought came from me. Like it was out yesterday, and uh, I don't think my wife was getting bit up as much as I was from like mosquitoes. So that would be an example, like mosquitoes would be believe it to be, but there's also other things.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

I think mosquitoes, as well as a lot of other bugs, are attracted to CO2. So more CO2 you're giving off, they might be attracted to that too. I think there's multifactorial. Um, but um so your mitochondria literally make alkaline water. Okay, we want our cells to be alkaline. And I I think most people are aware that the healthy tissues are alkaline and sick disease tissues are acidic. Okay. So it's literally your which metabolism you're primarily using that determines that environment. Okay. Okay, so if you have healthy functioning mitochondria, they're very efficient at turning oxygen into water and heat, which charges the cell like a battery and it keeps it um charged of uh high voltage. Okay, it's alkaline. As we age, okay, our mitochondria get damaged. Okay. There um we have two sets of DNA. We have nuclear DNA, which is what everybody was taught about, which is you know, half mother, half father. But then we have a second set of DNA, which is your mitochondrial DNA. And um, you only inherit your mitochondria from your mother. Okay. Wow. So um that's another thing that Doug Wallace, I was talking about earlier. Yeah, he discovered that. And so um, if your mother had very poor mitochondria when she conceived you, you might be born with very dysfunctional mitochondria. Because why do we see some of these, you know, young kids get cancer and other, you know, chronic inflammatory diseases before they've really gone out into the world and done a done bunch of damage to their body? Yeah. Is it's interesting. You are passing your your life force on to your children through the mother. And so, you know, as we age, our mitochondria become less and less able to turn oxygen into water and heat. Okay. And it gets to a certain point, I believe it's like below 40%, is that Doug Wallace proved, is when it uh primarily switches over to anaerobic metabolism. So mitochondria are aerobic, meaning with oxygen. Okay, and it's a much more energy efficient way to create energy. Okay. If you use sugar, I believe you get like 30, they're not measuring it in water, they're still measuring it in ATP. Okay. Like 36 ATP for like a molecule of sugar. And if you use fat and oxygen, it's like 136, something like that. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. So very, very energy efficient. Okay. Um, when we ferment sugar, which is anaerobic, meaning without oxygen, so without oxygen, it doesn't, the metabolism doesn't play take place in the mitochondria. It takes place in the cytosol, which is the water in the cell. Side note when they study proteins and shit in labs, it's always in a dehydrated form. They never study it hydrated. And when you take the water away from a protein, it completely changes what happens. Most most of the science is BS. Wow. We know the science follows money. But, anyways, um oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 51:51

I'm sure they probably did both tests. I bet you they did dehydrated and they probably did it with the water, and they probably found out what made most sense to make the most money.

SPEAKER_03 52:00

Possibly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:01

I can imagine like there's probably something there with that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:04

And so, you know, we it's it's all about mitochondrial energy metabolism. Okay. And so we have to be charging ourselves like batteries. And so your mitochondria are an environmental sensor for your environment. And so they detect things like light and movement and temperature fluctuations, and they optimize based off of the environment. Okay. Yeah. And so um the ways that we charge are through sunlight, the red and the near-infrared light. Okay. Exercise, so if light is a physical stress, uh, movement is a mechanical stress. Okay. Okay. And and think about this way too, is um can you think of any downsides to regular exercise? Are there any negative side effects? Not until you overdo it. Yeah. Like you can literally move your body and exercise every day as long as you don't overdo it. But because exercise is a stress, right? It's a stress to our system. And it's so much more than just your muscles, right? Like, yeah, you get stronger, more enduring muscles, but it goes way beyond that. Like you get more bone density. Okay. So it affects the skeletal system. You get better cardiovascular endurance, so it affects the cardiovascular system, it improves nervous system innervation, um, it improves lymphatic movement and flow. Uh, it it affects your hormones, it makes you make hormones. Yeah. Right. So movement literally touches every system of the body, right? Not just an isolated system. And the reason it has all this benefits is because movement is a mechanical stress of your mitochondria that improves their function. It improves how well they turn oxygen into water and heat. Okay. And so it only becomes an issue when you overdo it. And this is what's known as a hermet uh hormetic stressor. Okay. So a stress at the proper dose leads to a growth outcome because it improves your metabolism, it improves it improves mitochondrial function. Uh, it only becomes an issue when you start to over-train. Yep. Okay. Well, just like you can over-train, you can over uh yeah, you can over light. Okay. Some would call that sunburn. Yeah. Right? Yeah. But up until that point, uh, we're we're gaining energy and information from the sun that we we utilize to improve our health. Um, you can overheat, right? But heat stress in proper doses has been shown to be incredible for reducing all cause mortality. Just look at the Swedes and the Finns with all their long-term sauna studies. Wow. Men that did one sauna a week on average, I think it was like 25,000 men over 20 years. And I think longitudinal studies are some of the best because you can look at a population over a long period of time, right? Um, they were like 8% less likely to die of any cause mortality. Wow. Once you went up to four or more, it was like, I think it was like 28% less likely to die of any cause mortality. Wow. And so, you know, this isn't an hour of sauna a day, it's like 15, 20 minutes, right? So it's the right dose because the dose makes the poison. Um, but you can overheat hyper um heat exhaustion. Okay, cold plunge, you can over cold and hyperthermia, but in the right dose, um, cold is a very potent uh mitochondrial stimulant that improves how well we convert oxygen into water and heat. Um, and then there is earthing or grounding.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:42

Now, what I love to tell people is that grounding is not a true hormetic stressor because you cannot overdo it. So it increases the energetics of our body among a million other things. Uh, but you cannot over-ground. We were designed to touch the earth 24-7 just like a tree. Okay, it wasn't until we moved inside and then we put rubber on the bottom of our feet. You know, we always used to. And so um, you know, the earth gives us negative charge, it gives us electrons. Yeah, and electrons are an energy source, it's the energy currency, right? It's about the uh energy is about the movement of electrons through our body to create this water and heat. Um, energy is an increase in a negative charge, which again is another way of saying and uh alkaline, right? So back to the alkaline thing, and then increase in a positive charge is acidic, and that's another way of saying inflammation. So energy and inflammation are the balancing forces of each other, and this is the law of polarity, another natural law. Uh yin and yang. Yeah, right. So as energy goes up, inflammation goes down, and vice versa. And so we're losing our our energy, we're losing our vitality, and that's why chronic inflammation is increasing. Okay. So I like to tell people that, like, you know, we started seeing rises in cancer and heart disease. Like, everybody blames it on the high fructose corn syrup or on the seed oils. Yeah. Well, guess what? It was increasing before those. These chronic inflammatory diseases really started increasing after the invention of the artificial incandescent light bulb. Because the light bulb brought people from the outdoors to the indoors. Makes sense. Right? Yeah. Now, incandescent light bulb, that's the only thing we use in our house. It's the healthiest light source because it is full spectrum and it mimics the spectrum of fire. Very little blue light, tons of red, and really mostly infrared. That's why they get so hot. Yeah. But they're not energy efficient. And so I think Obama banned them back in the day. And I think recently Trump unbanned them. I have a stockpile of about a hundred at home. Really? Uh just in case the day I can't get them. Yeah. But that's the only kind of light we use in our house during the day because the light has evolved into fluorescent light, which looks nothing like full spectrum. And now today, energy efficiency, everything's gone to LED. And most LEDs spike in blue light. Okay. And then they lack the red and the infrared. So if red and near infrared light improve your metabolism, blue light slows it to a halt. So blue light slows down mitochondrial function. So it slows down energy and it increases oxidative stress. It increases free radicals. Interesting. And so it increases inflammation. And so when we're inside under our LED lights and in front of our LED screens, we're literally killing ourselves. Slowly. Slowly. Yeah. It it it's happened so slowly that you don't feel it. But I mean, look at people's eye health today. Um, I think South Korea has the highest rate of corrective lenses for teens, like kids under 18. Wow. And they're also the most tech addicted country in the world. And so we have these blue-enriched tech screens that were shining on our eyes. Your eye is probably the most sensitive organ and one of the and maybe the most important organ in your body. Because it's not just about vision. The eye is is uh a camera, but it's way beyond that. It's an extension of your nervous system, it's part of your brain, and it transmits all the light signals from your environment, not just for vision, but for biological function to your brain. Okay. And so we're looking at these alien lights that are giving us the wrong information. Go back to the computer, garbage in, garbage coat in, garbage out. Yep. Right? So, why does everybody have fucked up hormones? Why are like guys these days in their 30s with the testosterone levels of like their grandpas at 80? Yeah. It's because they're not getting the right stimuli from nature. We need ultraviolet light and we need cholesterol to make vitamin D, make testosterone, all our hormones. Um, and so we're increasing the oxidative stress in our retina. Now, your retina has more mitochondria per cell than any other part of your body because it's the highest metabolic tissue. Interesting. And so that means red light is especially important for your eyes. And so, you know, when we go outside today, people are wearing sunglasses, right? To block the sunlight, okay. It blocks the UV light, it blocks some of the infrared, uh, it turns full spectrum sunlight into an artificial light. Okay. But then we spend or we're behind energy efficient glass that blocks the UV and blocks the infrared. Doctors and ophthalmologists have programmed us that we need to protect our eyes from the sun, from the ultraviolet light. Okay. We have a non-visual photoreceptor in the retina called uh neuropsin. It is a UV light detector, it detects UV light to control like different making different hormones and other biological functions. It has to be stimulated by ultraviolet light. Okay. So when we wear the sunglasses outside, we're doing ourselves a disservice. And so um, this blue light from our screens is increasing the oxidative stress, and it's now the number one reason for eye aging and eye disease and and blindness. Wow, that is so interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:21

We didn't know, now you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:22

Now you know, and so the best thing we can do is just get our eyes out in sunlight, especially the first thing in the morning. Um, most cells regenerate at night in the dark, but your uh rods and cones, they and photoreceptors regenerate first thing in the morning at sunrise. You know, you get that balance of blue light with red light. Okay. So blue light and all the artificial lights, like they're not balanced with red. In nature, there's always a balance. You have that inflammatory blue light balanced with the anti-inflammatory. There's that yin and yang, red light. You've got ultraviolet light, inflammatory by itself. Um, so I don't do tanning beds, uh, balanced with infrared light, a lot more infrared light, the anti-inflammatory component. Got it. And so blue light is speeding up the aging process. They did an experiment on fruit flies. They put half of the group into uh an environment with 12 hours of light and then 12 hours of darkness. Okay. The other group went into 24 hours of continuous light.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:24

The 24 hour continuous light lived on average, I believe, 38 days. And then the 12 on, 12 off lived on average 81 or 82 days. Wow. So they had over double the lifespan because they lived half of their life in the dark. Okay. There's another natural principle is the law of rhythm. Okay. We're designed to have sunlight during the day, but we're designed designed to have darkness at night. Yeah. And so um, yeah, we're just chronically exposed to blue light, and especially at the wrong time, uh, at nighttime. Blue light is a signal for daytime, it's a circadian signal. Because even our ancestors that had fire at night, which is a light source, very little blue light. Most of it's yellow and orange and red, and then the infrared, right? Infrared, yep. It's very hypnotic. And so it increases your melatonin levels, and you're gonna get really tired, and you're gonna have a fantastic sleep and a fantastic repair and recovery. Ooh, I like that. Okay, I got a fire pit. Um, so all of this artificial blue light. Well, all right. So we evolved to the color blue as day because of the fire, right? So when the sun was up, the sky was blue and there was blue light and sunlight. Yeah. And so blue light tells our body it's daytime mode. So that's when we release all the thyroid hormone and the cortisol and the insulin, all the hormones that we need for daytime function. Because remember, we're we're diurnals, so we have daytime and nighttime mode. Yep. Okay. The opposite of that is nighttime mode, which is really about uh melatonin, most importantly. Now, most people think melatonin for sleep. I think about melatonin for uh repair and regeneration. Okay, because our cells are always repairing themselves, and melanin, melatonin is the signal. Okay, so melatonin controls both repair processes in our cells called um autophagy and apoptosis. And so autophagy is like cell uh protein recycling. So you like cars. So let's say you have a broken um belt on your engine. I don't know cars, so a something belt, a fan belt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, your car doesn't work properly until you take the mechanic and he replaces that part. Yep. Okay, so that's autophagy. You you you replace it and now the cell functions great.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:39

Got it.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:40

Okay. On the other end, you've got apoptosis, which is a cell suicide. Now it sounds like a bad thing, but when a cell is so damaged, we have to get rid of it before it becomes a cancer cell. And so if you totaled your car, you can't just take it to mechanic and get it running again, right? Yeah, so that car's done. And so that's apoptosis is getting rid of that total car so you can get a new car. And you know, we break the cell back down to its most basic components, and those components can go elsewhere in the body to be used as building blocks. So it's a beautiful process and it's controlled by melatonin. So melatonin is our anti-cancer hormone, okay, because again, cancer cells are cells that the mitochondria are so dysfunctional that they can only ferment sugar into lactic acid. Okay, and they never got the signal to die off. Melatonin was that signal. So, melatonin, most of our hormones that we know of are made by light exposure. So, specifically ultraviolet light. So, most people know vitamin D, right? Not a vitamin, it's a steroid hormone. Super important, but vitamin D is really just a proxy for how much sunlight you're getting. Yeah. Okay. And so UV light also makes your sex hormones like your um testosterone, estrogen, progesterone. Uh, Makes beta endorphins. Okay. It makes melanin. It makes dopamine, serotonin, melanin, histidine, um, melatonin. Yeah. So hormones um that circulate the body are made by ultraviolet like exposure. That's why we got to get our eyes in the sun. Okay. Another fun fact side topic is 95% of your melatonin is actually made within your cells by your mitochondria when exposed to near infrared light. So near infrared light increases your melatonin, which is your regeneration hormone.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:32

Okay. So that's why red light's been linked to better sleep for a couple different ways. It increases your melatonin, but it also like red light at night is a blue light free environment. And it's blue light suppresses your melatonin the most. Um yeah, uvulite hormones, red light makes our melatonin. Wow. Um why was I talking about that?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:58

No, you're good. You're good. You're just giving I just giving perspective on the whole entire perspective of like how it all works for the sales and for the regeneration and how we go through this process. And what I'm curious about is like for the people out there that want to maybe like connect the dots for themselves, like so when you started to see these modalities and you started going down this road to get yourself like back on track health-wise, like how like what did you start to do from the beginning and then you start seeing success, and then you started to implement the next thing and you started seeing success to really get to like the optimal health that you're at now.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:33

Perfect, yeah. So because the book on epigenetics connect started connecting the dots, yeah. When I saw the quantum biology lectures, I had so much faith that this was the truth, right? And so I knew if I just created the right healing environment, my body would heal itself. Okay. Okay. So it was drastic because you know, my my livelihood, my income was due to me being in the gym, right? All the time. So I had to start training differently. And so what I did is um I created groups. I started doing group training like a couple a day. I think it was like a 9 a.m. at uh 12 p.m. or 3 p.m. Okay. And you and it was seasonal too, because um light cycles change seasonally, right? But anyways, if you couldn't train with me, you know, at one of those times, I just I unfortunately couldn't train you anymore. And so I went from where I was spending the entire day indoors and especially the night indoors to where all my free time, I didn't have a yard at the time, I just had a condo. I would go to the park, or there was a lot of grassy areas in my neighborhood. So every moment that I wasn't in the gym, I was outside barefoot in the grass, just wearing my shorts. Okay. I had no social life for this period of my life because I I was on a mission to heal myself and I knew this was gonna work. Heck yeah. So I went from spending zero time outside during the day to spending six, seven, eight hours of sunlight on a work day. Okay. I think I started in January. Um, the the light cycles are a little shorter, but also um the temperatures are are a lot more tolerant, right? Yeah, or you can be outside all day, you're not gonna burn, and yeah, yeah, you know, you yeah. And so um this is also when I started, I found red light therapy too, from these lectures. And I found a chiropractor. There was no red light therapy studios in the entire valley. Oh wow. And so I found a chiropractor that had some of the original LED panels, and I started doing it there. And for me, the the benefits were immediate.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:35

Really?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:36

Yeah. Now again, this is not a it's a supplement, not a replacement for sunlight, but yeah, yeah, because I was spending several hours still inside the gym, um, I was doing that red light to help balance it out. And for me, it was the it was immediate. It was uh noticeable improvement in my energy and my mood. Okay. Um, I used to hate hiking. Okay. Um, I like doing my cardio indoors on the treadmill, on the stepmill. So I hated hiking. I don't know why, but I had to start finding excuses to be outside. And so I started taking up hiking, and then I got really competitive with myself, right? It's like, you know, first I'm walking, then I'm, you know, speed walking the hills and jogging the flats and the downs. Yeah. Every time I want to beat my time. Well, I started incorporating red light after my after my hikes. I was recovering so much better. Wow. Every I would go out every day, and every day I would PR a new better time. So that's how I knew it was working.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:27

It's like, all right, I'm charging at these cells and having more success the process. And so, but you were on these medications. When did you start weaning yourself off the medications as you're going through the process of snow grounding, doing the red light therapy?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:39

Yeah. Um, it was shortly after um after I started doing this that I started weaning off the medications. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:46

And you just felt it like in your being, you're like, all right, I just well, I knew I had to. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:51

I mean, you can't you you can't poison yourself into health. No. Um, and you know, all pharmaceuticals are poisons. Yep. Right? Yep. So there was that. Um the weekends, I mean, it was like January, so football's on. And so I used to watch football. I don't anymore. I think it's breads and circuses for the the NPCs. Uh, no offense if you like football. I mean, I was there too. Uh, but I would take my iPad to the park and I could watch every game, you know, outside. Perfect, right? Yeah. With my feet in the grass, take my dog out playing. It was great. On the weekends, I'm literally outside all day long. And then the other half of the coin is I stopped using any artificial lights inside at night because now I I wasn't at work anymore. Okay. I stopped working out at night. I started doing it outside during the day. Yeah. Okay. Um, and so this is when I started lighting my uh condo with candles and I started reading started reading books. Okay. So I was I was at a point when I started where I could not go to bed till midnight or one. My body would not let me. That was the the cycle I was in. What it was in train for. Within just three or four nights of not having any electricity or artificial light at night and get all the sunlight during the day. Uh, I think on night four, I was finally in bed at like nine o'clock, like asleep. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it changed really fast.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:11

Wow. That's amazing. I mean, talk about a lift-off moment there to be able to like switch it up so quick. And then, and so now are you tracking your sleep? So you're seeing also how well you are sleeping at that time, or no. You just felt better?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:24

Yeah. I mean, yeah. Back then I was tracking it uh with like uh an app that you can have your phone listen to you. Uh huh. Okay, I'm not big on sleep or fitness trackers today.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:34

Uh I tried, we don't need the technology. Okay, I don't need a I don't need a ring to tell me how hard I'm my body's been pushed or I can feel it, right? Yeah. I'm in tune. Um, but yeah. So I changed my electromagnetic environment, meaning I started spending almost my entire day outside and grounded in the sunlight. Okay. I'm a white dude. I've got northern European genetics. I'm originally from uh close to Seattle, Washington.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:02

And so I was pasty white, especially the winters up there, right? Um, you know, I I I don't burn. Really? And I and because your your skin's like a muscle, right? And it you you adapt to whatever demands you you put on your body. And so I was getting tons of UV light, but it was very weak in in January, right? And I'm doing it every single day. And so I just keep building up that tan, building up that tan. And your your melanin is not only your protection from the sun and other radiation, um, but it also gives you superpowers. Melanin allows us to turn uh water into oxy split water into oxygen and hydrogen, which are the inputs for mitochondria. Got it. So we can use water as an energy source. Uh melan is a fascinating molecule. Um, but uh by changing my daytime environment to mostly outside, and then by not using the artificial light at night and not stressing my body through movement, not taking the the caffeinated pre-workouts, not eating at night, within 60 days, everything completely reversed itself.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:09

And that's that's amazing for viewers and listeners out there to think about. Like you could do the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:15

Yeah, anybody can do it. Yeah, and it's all free. The only thing that it costs is your time. Wow. Right? God gave you everything that you need to not just survive but to thrive outside in nature, and it's free. 100%. Sunlight is free, grounding is free, temperature fluctuations are free, darkness at night is free, fire is free. If you were still hunting and gathering and foraging, your food was free and it was organic, right? And so it's it's getting away from this environment is why we we got sick. And the modern world really pulls us away from that environment. Yeah, and that's why we're seeing everybody so sick. Yeah, it's in I think it's intentional because then it supports their systems, right? They poison the food, they poison the air, they're poisoned the water. Yep, we get sick, yep. A sicker population is easier to control, yep, uh, mentally and physically. Um, and then we we we support their systems. So then we go to the doctor and then we take the the pharmaceutical. And all these industries are owned by the same big players. It's a big pyramid scheme, right? Yeah, and they're extracting our energy because we need their goods and services. I tell people when we stop being self-sufficient, okay, when we started outsourcing all of our basic needs to governments and corporations, that's when we gave away our freedom because now they have us by the balls.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:38

So fucking true.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:41

We don't live in a free country anymore. Oh no, nothing's free.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:44

Right, nothing.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:44

Like the like the founders of this country, they didn't pay taxes and they didn't need licenses to do anything, to start a business, buy a house, to go hunting, to go fishing, right? Um, that's happened all after 1871. This is a topic for another day, um, but where um the United States incorporated into a corporation that's now under statutes and codes, and this is why you have to ask permission to the government to drive a car, to start a business, to do anything, because uh a license is permission to do something that would otherwise be illegal. Yeah. Now, legal does not mean unlawful, yeah. Right? Two completely different things. And so um, you know, the world's gone towards centralization, and and that's what you know government always tries to do. This is why history and the cycles repeat, and then the people fight back, and then it swings back into decentralization. I feel like we're at that that point. Oh, yeah. Or and the the pendulum always swings back, but not without friction. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And so we have a government, a tyrannical government, that's trying to take more and more control, taking all of our rights. Now, if you don't know your rights, you don't have any anyways. Yeah. Right. Uh, so know your rights. That's a good thing to read. Is the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, so you know who you are. Um, but you were, I think before that podcast you were talking about, like there's a movement of people going back to self-sufficiency. Yeah. They're finally at a place where they're sick of it, right? And um, they don't want to rely on corporations because you can't buy real organic food anymore unless you go like directly to the farmer that you know is organic, like even the corporate organic shit is still sprayed with organic pesticides and organic chemicals, right? Yep. Uh, that's all making us sick. And so I'm huge on self-sufficiency. That's the the way that that me and my family are going. Um because self-sufficiency reconnects you to the land and it reconnects you to nature, right? When you're growing and raising your own food, you gotta be outside.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:58

Right. And we want to be literally touching the earth the best that we can while we're doing this. Um you grow the most organic, the most nutrient, you know, food. Yes. And um and you can't do it on your own, is you have to get back to community, right? Yeah. And so that type of lifestyle is is is centered around community as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:21

Yeah. And so I think it could be it could be fun too. If like all your neighbors grew stuff and like you grew what you liked and they grew what they liked, and then you were to barter and like trade, like that'd be so cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:31

Well, that's the that's the way out of the system. Yeah. Because we are in a system, and he who creates controls, right? And so um, if we participate in their their system, I mean that's a form of consent, it's participation. Um, we're agreeing to abide by their rules. Of course. Right. And so we we can't beat them with guns or missiles, like like we can't beat them uh kinetically or violently. And so the only way that we can beat them is by creating our own parallel system.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:59

And I I see that's where the decentralization is gonna go. Is people are gonna go back to producing things at home and their food, and it's all gonna be about trade and barter, and maybe we'll use silver, maybe we use gold or whatever. Yeah. But just a different way of living.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:15

I love that. I I can see a parallel living environment from the perspective of like, hey, you know, until more people start to wake up, then they're gonna be buying into the system, going to the grocery store, doing what they're doing, and then you're gonna have the other side, like you and and others, and like myself, who's gonna have farms and they're gonna have pastures and they're gonna have different ways of life. And you know, for me, I I kind of like a blend. I feel like there's some cool things that we have created experience-wise, like because I like cars, I'll just um throw that out there. Like, there's cool stuff you can still do, like trampolines or cars and like like swimming pools. Uh, you know, take them, leave them if it's so like if it's only like the red light panels. I think there's some cool stuff that we have developed from modern society, but I think we gotten so far away from just the basic fundamentals. Like, where's that middle ground?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:07

You know, I want to I wish I could remember this quote. I um it was by uh Rudolf Steiner. Okay. He was like, I think an Austrian physician, uh physicist, like a hundred years ago. So he said something about men are gonna continue to invent technologies outside of them uh until they destroy the planet or until they realize that these technologies already already exist inside of them. Like there's no man-made technology that we need. No, like God gave us, like I said, everything we need to survive and thrive in nature and it's free. Oh my gosh. Just a quick example. It's like you look at the Eskimos in Alaska. Okay, okay, vitamin D is always obviously super important to health, right? And so um they don't have sunlight and they don't have UV light for like six months a year.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:57

Right? So how do they get their vitamin D? Well, it's in the food. Look at cold water fish, they're fatty that are high in vitamin D. Uh-huh. And so they get it through the food source. Ooh. Okay, but you go down to the equator, okay, where there's vitamin D all year round because there's UV light all year round, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:13

Um, the vitamin D is not really in the food. They have warm water fish that aren't fatty, right? But carbohydrates grow there all year round, and so it's natural to eat carbohydrates year round there, where an Eskimo in Alaska doesn't want to eat carbohydrates in the winter because carbohydrates only grow in strong UV light.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:30

Fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:31

So nature always has exactly what you need to survive in that environment. I don't know what it would be here in the desert because without artificial air conditioning and without pulling water in, yeah, nobody would probably live here, at least in the summers.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:44

Yeah. Right. I know back in the day the settlers were here and there's like Indians and what have you. So I mean, you'd have to be closer to a water source, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:52

And you go up to Arizona and you could uh thrive up there, right? Yeah, you got water and more seasons, more temperate. Um, yeah, you know, uh the desert's a tricky place.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:04

It is very tricky. It's tricky, but for some reason, the energy and everything is just it's a vibe. Yeah, I love the desert. I love the desert too, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:12

So beautiful here.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:13

So beautiful. And like that's where for for me too, I'm like, and and and I appreciate the enlightenment today because it it just opens up possibilities of like like you said stuff about houses, and I think anyone viewing and listening, like they are starting to create houses that are more organic, yeah. From the paint, uh no lead to the carpets to or more just an organic way, structural material, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:36

Dirt houses, like dirt bags. Yeah, they're doing um hay bale houses and it's amazing, they're non-toxic.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:43

Yeah, yeah. It's amazing. So it's like, I don't know, what can you guys out there and comment below? Like, what could you do to change your environment, even if it's just a little bit going outside a little bit more, getting better water, alkalining your body, like grounding mats at the house, like we sleep on a grounding mat. And so at night I have all these like they are LED lights, but they're very dim, and it's just darker and it just changes the mood a little bit. It's funny how all the lights in here right now are blue. Yeah, they're currently on the blue like setting, and I'm like, oh man, talk about we're just talking about how bad blue can be. I mean, it's daylight now today, so I guess it's fine, but definitely at night. I'm like, man, I gotta turn red.

unknown 1:23:25

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:26

I love that. I love that. So so are you planning on are you gonna buy land or how are you going to start to transition into are you gonna start doing like chickens and you start growing and and stuff like that? Like what's your plan?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:38

So we got a farm in North Idaho about two years ago. Oh, you did? Nice. Yes, and so me and my girlfriend, um, we've got some family living there right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:48

Um, and you know, my girlfriend's got three girls, and the youngest one graduates in about five years. Okay. So we're kind of here for the next five years. Okay. And then after that, we can um then head up to Idaho. My folks are up there now. They were in Prescott for a bit. They recently moved up to Idaho. Okay. And so we have community up there. Oh, nice. Um, and so you know, that's the short-term goal. Um, we want to do regenerative farming because re regenerative farming is how you fix the soil. Okay. Because the if you kill the soil, you kill everything on the planet because that's how the plants get all the nutrition. Yeah. Um, so we want to raise um uh they have chickens there now. We'll keep the chickens, and I want to get cows and uh possibly pigs or some sheep or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Do some rotational grazing. There's an orchard, so there's like apple trees, pear trees, plum trees. Wow. Um, they've been doing a big garden every year now. Um and then super cool. And then, you know, ultimately, you know, shit, you know, shit doesn't hit the fan and the world doesn't get locked down by 2030. Uh, ultimately, we would love to get a second place uh more towards the equator, uh like Costa Rica would be ideal. And do similar down there regenerative farming, uh, produce all our own food. But we really want to create a place for people to come and heal because kind of like you were talking about, the people that are keep doing the same thing, yeah, um, they're in the matrix. And we're uh I'm out of the matrix. I mean, I'm I'm in and out. I'm kind of like Neo. But uh he's here today, but as soon as he walks out that door, um I see a a huge need for people that are waking up because people are waking up left and right, right? Especially after 2020 on all that bullshit. Um, and people are getting sick of it and they're starting to realize maybe that I wasn't born to work a corporate nine to five job and you know, waste the best years of my life and then maybe retire and have five or ten years left. Or right, and nobody's gonna have good years at that point after you know living such a disconnected life. And so um I see a need for a place for people to come and heal that's away from the cell phone towers, away from the technology, away from the toxins. I love that that has the most nutrient-dense healing food. It's got the best, strongest ground and sunlight. So, like we're talking like you know, tiny houses or little like Airbnbs where people can come stay short term and long term, and they can live connected to the ground. Yeah, you know, close to the o the ocean's the best place to ground.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:22

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:22

Sea level and salt water, right? And so um we want to create a healing center for people to come heal naturally because that's how I healed myself. And um loving this. Yeah, it's just you know, shifting the consciousness of the planet, you know, one person at a time. And it all starts with shifting your own consciousness.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:43

I love that. I love that. We're gonna have all of his links down below so you can give him a follow and follow through the journey and and and see how all this transpires. Um, because I'm sure you'll play online talking about stuff, and then they can be able to see what you're up to. Um, I do want to get into on the segment of what do you do? Because earlier in the show, we talked a little bit about um the fact that there was no facilities in the valley here in Phoenix, Arizona, to be able to offer like red light. And you said earlier in the story that you had uh, I believe it was a chiropractor that had red light panels, and you started doing that and how quick it helped you with circuit rhythm and sleep and all these things. So we have some stuff here with us too. So, do you have your own facility? Give the context to the viewers and listeners a little bit about what you do, the facility that you have, if you're local, you can go to the facility, check out what he has, what he's doing, because you're technically healing people now.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:34

It's it's a tool in the toolbox. Yeah. I I like to think I'm healing them with the information that I'm giving them because when somebody comes in for a red light therapy consultation, rarely do we ever just talk about red light. Okay. And so um, you know, I built quantum red as a necessity for myself because you know, we you gotta have income to to live in this world. And I was trading my time for money and it was making me sick, right? And so I changed my life with light completely, 180%. And red light therapy was definitely effective for me, and almost anybody can benefit from it. Uh, even if you get regular sunlight, you're probably not getting enough. And so in uh 2019, the beginning of 2019, um I knew what I had to do. I I wanted to create um a a red light studio that was both uh affordable but also convenient. I like that. And so what I did is I started Quantum Red uh with a membership location that was designed to be self-serve. And so I used like elect you know, technology is a blessing and curse, right? Yep. I was using electronic locks so people could get into the offices with their phone. Okay. So I didn't actually have to be there. Oh nice. And so my first location was inside of a gym. So, you know, the gym has staff to keep it open, and then I had my office with the electronic locks and then you know, two doors. So and so the only time it was taken out of me is my time to give them the consultation. And then once they signed up, they could come at any at any time that they wanted, and I didn't need to be there. And so I created Quantum Red uh as a way to generate income, but not necessarily trade my time for money. I like that, dude. That's awesome. Nature is what healed me, and so um I wanted to keep doing it. Yeah. And then uh I was almost ready to open my second location during uh that first lockdown of 2020. And I stayed open at my one location. Um, but I lost 80% of my membership base in that first uh 30 days. Oh wow were afraid to lose their house uh leave their houses, and like I mean, people weren't told to stay inside, right? So people were getting way less light, and they still could have come over to Quantum Red if they weren't germophobes, and um they could get a huge dose of red near for light therapy that's great for your immune system. So, anyways, um it was at that point that I realized that if they weren't gonna come to me, I needed to go to them. Wow. And I never thought I would be the type of person to create and sell a product because that's not my personality. Like I'm uh very science-based, I'm not a salesman. Yeah. Um, I'm an educator. And but it forced me to pivot and get out of my comfort zone.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:21

Oh, big time. I mean, based off all the stuff we just heard today, I was just like, you would ever thought you would actually have, and we're gonna see this product here in a minute. I mean, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:29

Yeah. So in 2020 is when I started actually having the the devices manufactured for me, and I started selling them, and it was a really slow start. Um, you know, I'm not a business guy again, per se. Like and so I I don't run my business like a normal business.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:44

Nor do I.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:45

So up until about a week ago, I'd never spent a dollar on marketing. Oh, wow. And so all of my memberships and all my device sales have come through organic Google searches, and then um referrals are huge. That's huge. And so I ran my business like that for seven years. And uh recently I just uh hooked up with some really cool local guys that I really enjoy, and um, they're helping other um health and wellness type businesses do marketing. And so, you know, first time I'm doing that. Nice. Um, but over the course I've um you know designed my own lights and and changed them um up a little bit, and uh I got some products to show you here today. I've also got a new line of products that are coming out. Wow, like it's been a total blessing, right? I like I thought I was just gonna be a membership type uh model, but now that I can do both, I mean I so I do memberships, I do sales, I do rentals. I don't know of any other red light company out there doing even two of those. Um, but I'm doing all I'm doing all three, so I can cover all grounds.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:50

That's huge. I love that. And it's interesting because like having the location at a gym and the what happened during COVID, then it's just like, well, you can't really go in, you can't really be able to facilitate. You can if they're not germophobes, you lost 80%. But now to say there is no more friction because you could rent or buy and it's gonna be in your home. So every single morning I have um uh, you know, I got one before meeting uh and seeing the quantum red device, which you're gonna see here in a second. So I have a panel, and then my wife told me about uh because I have like a little bit like a back of my hair is starting to get light. So I'm like, okay, it's getting lighter back there. I I'm not committed to a bald spot, like I'm gonna take care of myself before. I've been doing uh different um different types of topical stuff just to kind of take care of my hair. So now I'm like, I'm doing the cap. So I have a grounding mat and I have the cap and I have the uh red light panel and then I do whim hop breathing and I go in front of have the hat, the breathing, the qu and then the grounding for about 11 to 15 minutes every single morning before I go to the gym and I get my workout and I go through that process. So talk about intention. Very much so. I and then I I do the sea salt water with lemon, and then I have the she legit with the with the tea, and then I put in uh I actually also put in maca root and I also put in cacao, and so I make my my organic drink before the gym, and then and then I have my longevity mix from Mr. Brian Johnson, and then I also have my perfect aminos from Gary Breca. So very intentional. But long story short, I love um the product he's gonna show you, and I think that's definitely something y'all could try, especially if you're corporate America, if you're indoors all day, you're not getting outside enough, which that's me. I'm inside all day in this office majority of the time. I do try to go out there, lunch break, get some sunlight. Um, weekends I'm outside majority of the time, but I could I could feel my inner being say, like, get out in nature, go outside more. That's where I want to get a property up north, strawberry pine, maybe Boulder Creek, probably outside of Payson, so that I can be able to be outside and just be right there, take a hike with the wife, be outside, have a cool little e-bike, go out there, ride the dirt bike, have some fun with that. But uh, you want to roll it over and show them what you got?

SPEAKER_03 1:34:04

For sure. Yeah, my dream is the day when I don't need to sell people red lights because the consciousness of the planet has changed and people have gone back to being self-sufficient and they live outside connected with the sun. Yeah. Uh, that's my dream. But until then, I'm gonna sell people that need them red light panels. I mean, that's okay. It's an amazing technology.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:23

That's very admirable of you because the fact that you're like, I just want to be the catalyst to help people be able to get back to baseline, back to getting outside, using the sun. It's free. Like, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:36

It's a means to an end.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:37

Yeah, it's a means to an end. It's not like he's trying to be this big corporate conglomerate and make all this money and whatever else. And so, I mean, good for you for for having that be a goal and and being able to just keep it true to you and be authentic.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:50

Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:51

Of course.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:51

So, yeah, I brought a couple lights.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:53

Okay, I love it, I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:54

Stay hooked up here.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:55

You should be able to get over a little bit, and then you want to bring it over, and then if we need, we can we can mic you up here too. So just bring try to see if you could bring it over. You have some you have some good room there for your headphones. All right, perfect. So they're gonna see it in the shot now, as far as uh because see it over here on this camera. I'm sure they can see it in the one over there. We lost our main camera angle. It's a first episode with the main main camera, so I'm not sure if it's what we'll figure out tech what it's about. But so what is this? This is looks pretty large. Like, give us some context here.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:24

Yeah, I mean, so it looks like a standard panel. I mean, most LED red light therapy panels, you know, look like something like this, kind of a box. Okay. So this is one of my larger um uh quantum elite mega panels. Okay, it's a modular panel, and so you know, each panel measures three feet tall by 12 inches wide. Okay, but um, it's about a half-body panel, but multiple can be connected together to make more like larger full body systems. So, like when you come into my membership location, you're getting eight of these panels, four and front, four and back. So it's your entire body treated in about 10 minutes. Okay. 10 minutes is about the appropriate dose for a really high irradiance device like this. Again, we don't want to over-exercise, we don't want to over light, we don't want to overheat. And so heat is the enemy of red light. Um, there's a lot of companies out there that are making um red light devices that go inside of the sauna. Um, we were never designed to be exposed to red and urine for red light while being exposed to extreme temperatures. It's completely unnatural. Like the body likes to stay about 98.6 degrees, right? Yeah, and so again, Arizona desert's a weird um analogy because without the water and the air conditioning, nobody would probably live here in the summer. Yeah, but most habitable places over the planet don't really get over 100 degrees, and so you could be outside exposed to the elements all day long, even in the shade, the infrared uh reflects off everything, especially green. Uh-huh. So even the shade, you get out of the ultraviolet light if you get too much, but you can't get out of the infrared. Okay. Um so, anyways, um because this is dosed higher than what you would get from the sun, okay. Um, you're getting more energy per unit of time. And so naturally your cells are gonna heat up, and once they go beyond a certain temperature, it's like right around 101, I believe, is when we start to see a drop-off in benefit. So it's like a bell curve. So our goal is to hit that the peak of the bell, which is about 10 minutes, is the sweet spot. Okay. And so you can do that 10-minute dose for every single part of your body, and you can do it every single day. I mean, we should be getting this outside of nature every single day. Yeah. Um, but I get a lot of people that have fantastic with results, even just doing two or three sessions a week, uh, especially people dealing with like pain and inflammation. I got a lot of members and customers that use it for arthritis. That's huge. And as long as they use it on a regular basis, I believe the majority of them don't have any arthritis symptoms. Wow. When they stop using it for a week because they travel or something, um, that's when their symptoms start to come back.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:57

My father-in-law definitely should be using something like this. This is pretty amazing. Um, we'll put the links down below so you could you could check it all out and you can see these products. Yeah, I saw I saw that over there, the the small one, which is which is pretty cool. So that would be your travel size.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:12

Yeah, so this is like uh those people that have pain or arthritis, they can take this when they travel, and a lot of them do. Um I'll show you the differences, okay? Um, but yeah, so there's 300 total lenses on this panel. Okay. Okay. And you know, while the outside looks like any other red light, it's really what's on the inside that matters. Okay. And so this is a first of its kind triple chip LED. So behind every lens, there's actually three separate LEDs. Okay. Okay. So there's a 660 nanometer red that's been shown to be the best absorbed wavelength of the reds, and then there's 810 and 850 near infrared, which are the two best absorbed of the near infrareds. Now, intentionally, this is a two to one ratio. It's got it's twice as much near infrared, so it's a near-infrared dominant panel. Got it. The difference between the two is red light can penetrate up to about a centimeter into our tissues. Right. So if I turn this guy on, you see you got the red light. If I, you know, if I put my thumb over that, it's going right through the thumb. You can see it not just through the nail for the camera, but you can see it going through the outside of the skin too. Yeah. Right. So red light um predominantly regenerates the tissues on the outside of our body. Okay. So women love red light therapy for skin care. Okay. Every cell is dependent on how efficiently it can create energy to perform its different functions. And so a skin cell's job is to create more collagen and elastin, right? And so it's incredible for your skin for building collagen, elastin, getting rid of like fine lines and wrinkles in the face. But it's not just the face. Like we were designed to get this light on every part of our body. And that's another benefit of red light therapy, is most people aren't going outside naked anymore. I do every single day. Um, but um, most people aren't. And so red light therapy, we do it in a private setting where we can undress to our birthday suit and get it on every part of the body. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:03

Um, and because it's anti-inflammatory, it's an incredible treatment for any type of inflammatory skin condition. So we're talking like psoriasis, dermatitis, rosacea, all of that stuff. Wow. Um, red light, you use the hat, right? For your hair growth. Red light's incredible for stimulating hair growth. Wow. Especially older women is are the ones I usually hear it from, is their hair stopped growing when they were like 40. And, you know, so their hair stopped growing 10, 15, 20 years ago. They go to their hairdressers, and like after like eight, 12 weeks of regular use, their hairdresser's like, wow, you've got all this new growth. And so it's fantastic for stimulating hair growth. And then I was talking about the eyes earlier, right? We're always exposed to this artificial blue light without the antidote, which is the red. Your retina have more mitochondria per cell than another part of your body. So red light has been shown to help improve declining eyesight in older adults. Specifically, they looked at rod and cone sensitivities, which are your color vision and your night vision. Okay. They saw up to 22% improvement after 14 days. Wow. They were doing three minutes in the morning. Wow. Every day. And then they looked at children ages seven to twelve. Um, the kids all had myopia, nearsightedness, okay, which is increasing drastically again because of the tech screens. Anyways, they did it for six months. They did uh half the kids got three minutes of red light in the morning and three minutes in the evening. Wow. Those kids had no progression of the disease. And then the kids that had myopia without the red light treatment, they had significant progression. And so um, very common uh feedback from my members and my customers is they do notice a slight improvement in vision within just a few weeks of using it regularly. Okay. So we got I love that. Yeah, our eyes were meant for red and infrared light, just like every other part of the body.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:53

I almost find myself when I do the red light therapy in the morning, like wanting to stare at it. It's almost like just happens naturally. I'm like, okay, like you know, it's it's interesting. And I also I do, yeah, my my birthday suit because I also so I sit on mine and I have kind of like so it's more just the center, but then you know, I also want to produce more um testosterone. So I want to, I want to, you know, have my you know, my privates as close as I can to it. And then so I go through that process as well when I'm when I'm sitting in front of the one I have in the gym.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:22

Yeah. So they did a study back in 1939 looking at guys that got sunlight directly on their chest. Now, sunlight's got infrared, but it also has the UV. Guys that got sunlight directly on their chest had 120% higher testosterone than men that didn't. Wow. And then they looked at guys that got sunlight directly on their testicles, 200% higher testosterone than men that didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:44

Uh-huh. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:45

So we need the ultraviolet light to convert the uh cholesterol ultimately into different hormones, including testosterone. But we need the near red and near-infrared light to stimulate the mitochondrial function so those cells are energized like a battery. So it's so it um, yeah, both both frequencies of light increase uh testosterone in men.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:07

Wow. Here's your one of those. Here's gonna be this whole episode on how you can charge your batteries without the caffeine and without the five-hour energy and without all the superficial, you can now just put your feet on the ground. I like the breathing on top of get the sun. And this is great if you're indoors a lot, and then you can have something like this. Is like to me, this is a cool, like kind of a like a medium ground area. It's like, okay, I don't go outside as much. Uh, so I can have this first thing in the morning when maybe the sun's not up. Or I mean, what about even doing that before bed to help with your sleep at night?

SPEAKER_03 1:43:44

Yeah. So let me touch on the energy part real quick. So um, you know, the synthetic energy from the coffee and the five-hour energies, it's fake energy and it stresses you out. It increases cortisol and increases adrenaline, right? Real energy is not about cortisol and adrenaline. When you're energized naturally, you should feel calm and relaxed. Your body should feel light and loose. Yeah. When you walk, it's like walking on clouds, right? When you have low energy, think about a dead body. A dead body has no energy and so it goes completely stiff, rigor mortis, right? Yep. So when you're energized, you feel light and you feel loose, you feel in a good mood. Yep. When you're not energized, you feel tight and heavy.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:27

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:27

So so real energy is completely different than fake artificial stimulant energy. It's not a stimulant, it just makes you feel good. Okay. Um, and then for the sleep, um, so I told you earlier that uh near-infrared light stimulates your mitochondria to make 95% of your melatonin. So that's one way that it helps improve sleep but also repair and regeneration.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:50

At night, you mentioned you use red light bulbs. We do the same thing. Um, we I use incandescent light bulbs that have red glass, and so the red glass only filters out the long wavelengths of light, which are like orange and red. Oh, I prefer that over LED, but a red LED is fantastic too. Okay. Uh, because red light suppresses melatonin the least. And so we got to get off the screens. And if we are on the screens, there's ways that we can make the screen go red. Uh, we gotta wear this special nighttime blue blocking glasses. Shout out to uh my friends Thaddeus and and Heidi. They own a company called Dream Walkers. Let's go. Um, this these are theirs uh glasses. I'm wearing them during the day because the the artificial blue light does stress out my nervous system, and so it affects my ability to focus.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:37

And you can feel that.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:38

I can feel it. Yeah, as soon as I put these on, I get relaxed.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:40

Yeah, 100%. And I want to say something here, uh, side note. So I'm I'm gonna give contrast to what you said earlier about like wearables. I wear a ring, and I think that a good uh case study for anyone out there that may be a skeptic or wants to just you know get just get proof to what we're saying. I think the ring could be a good way to find out how well you're sleeping after you have the energy drink, where's your stress levels go? Because you can go into the app and it'll tell you where you're at with stress and where you're at with certain things. So for me, I do it just because I'm I'm just curious. Like I've been working on like I've been getting like a 91 on sleep efficiency and like 80 to 90 as far as the actual sleep score. My goal is to get to 100. Um, I probably won't wear it forever, but like at my company at Lift Off Agent, we do step up challenge, sleep challenge, and I just want people to have a baseline. And and if they can get through the baseline and get their circulating rhythm, get to a level like where you're at, then it's like you don't need anything, which makes perfect sense why you're just like in tune.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:39

Yeah, no, that's such a good point. I mean, every technology has a pro and con, right? And so, yeah, you're definitely naming a lot of pros uh, you know, for uh a tracker like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:49

Yeah, because I just feel like there's a lot of people out there that are maybe starting to wake up, they're not quite there yet, and they're in a point where it's just like, let's be real, ego's a thing. Yeah, people are metric driven. So if you're skeptical and you're met metric driven, then get a wearable and t test this shit out yourself. Like go drink the energy drink and then go on your app and see how stressed out you are, see how much in the relaxed state you are or not in. Like see where your sleep is at, and then do some of like the glasses, you know, get off the phone, do the red light panel, or go outside and get your feet on the ground and get the red light therapy, and then see what happens, you know, and see if maybe you get anything different as far as sleeping better, less stress, whatever you know the case may be.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:29

I don't know a single person that hasn't made those simple changes and did not notice uh measurable effect. Right? Yeah. I love that. I love that. The proofs in the pudding. Um, so this light's got twice as much near infrared, which is deeper penetrating. Okay. Um, you know, research suggests near infrared can penetrate up to five centimeters into the body. But um other research has shown that when you take a spectrometer, put it on somebody's back, it's a light measure, and you put them out in sunlight, you can measure small amounts of near infrared penetrate all the way through the torso and out the back. Wow. So near infrared light can, you know, it can penetrate directly through us. Okay. Okay, so it reaches the deepest parts of your body where arguably a lot of the important stuff is, and it helps regenerate the cells from the inside out. So the near infrared is really for your muscle performance and recovery. So, you know, I used to use it uh like before workout as like a pre-workout. Um, then I was also there was times where I was doing after the hike uh for recovery. Okay. Incredible for pain and inflammation. I just I just told you stories about people with arthritis and rheumatoid arthritis and just like chronic pain. Um, it works on pain in two different ways. So just like anything worthwhile in life, it's about consistency.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:45

Right. And so, you know, you exercise one time, you're probably gonna feel good, but not a lot's gonna happen on a cellular level. No. Okay. So with consistent treatment over time, you're gonna start to heal those tissues and reduce inflammation, which is the cause of pain. But also in the short term, uh, red and urine for red light are fantastic for desensitizing pain receptors. And so uh a lot of people that have pain and inflammation, uh, maybe have like chronic pain in a knee for like the last five years. Um, people will come in, they'll do a red light treatment. Sometimes they'll get a 20% reduction in pain, sometimes they'll get a 50, 80. And I've even had people get a hundred percent reduction in pain. Wow. A single treatment. Okay, so some things work faster than others. Like skincare, people typically notice after three or four weeks of regular use. Hair growth, I would say, is more like eight to twelve weeks. Um, but like sleep, energy, mood, pain, inflammation, sometimes it's immediate for a person, especially if they're super sunlight deficient. Wow. Um, and so the near infrared is great for your gut, cognitive benefits, everything on the inside. And the reason I create it this way is because sunlight's not a one to one ratio of red to infrared light. It's only about six percent red. It's forty two percent near infrared, but interesting. When the infrared is the most dominant portion of sunlight, and it's not a coincidence that the major spectrum of sunlight is the frequency that penetrates really deep into your tissues to charge those cells like a battery to help regenerate. Okay. And so arguably that's the more important color. And because sunlight's not a one-to-one ratio, that's why I made this a two to one ratio. So we want to get more infrared light than the uh red.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:23

Interesting. So I mean, so it's like there's a book I read called The Secrets of the Uh Millionaire Mine. It's like if you have option A or B, you want to have both. So I I like the idea of having this and having the sun and having both just to just to maximize the opportunity, the benefits.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:38

And me personally, I get more sunlight than anybody I know. Okay. Um, but my red light use is seasonal. So in the winter I do it every morning because I'm up before the sun comes up and I don't I don't want to turn the blue light on. Yep. And so I do my red light first thing in the morning. Uh, and I know I'm just not gonna get as much sunlight throughout the day because there's not as much available.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:57

Um, in the summer, my usage goes up because I don't avoid going outside. But you know, when you got to work and you gotta live, you can't go outside for 10 or 15 minutes, sweat your ass off, take a shower, go to work, go outside, sweat your ass off, take a shower. All right, take one to two showers a day. And so um I my in my use increases in the summer as well. Now, in the the spring and the fall, I really don't use it that much because you know, if I have a busy day and I'm only gonna get an hour of sunlight, absolutely, I'm doing my red light that day. But you know, especially weekends are easy, like I play pickleball and get any any excuse to be outside. Yeah, and so I go up play pickleball, go for a hike, I hang out in my backyard. I mean, I try to get like six, seven, eight hours of sunlight if I can. Yeah, um, there's no need for red light that day.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:47

So, you know, how long are you in front in front of this one here?

SPEAKER_03 1:51:50

Well, at home I have four of these. Okay. So it covers my entire body. So I do 10 minutes on the front, 10 minutes on the back. If I do it at one of my membership locations, it's only 10 minutes because I get front back at the same time. Ah, okay, okay, okay. But I mean, you know, if you with just a single panel, right? Um, you can cover half of your body. Yeah. Can I turn this bad boy on? Yeah, let's do it. I'm just I'm not gonna show you this different settings, but you can set it to red, infrared, or only uh both. Okay. Um, you can set a timer and then okay turns it on. Okay. So it's very bright, but uh, I think most people that get in front of this light, they realize like they don't want to close their eyes, kind of like you said. Like it's not it's not painful on the eyes. Now, if it was blue light, you wouldn't be able to look at it, it would be blinding because it's a higher energy light. Um but this red light, now I don't tell people to stare directly into the LEDs. Like my suggestion is close your eyes, let your eyelid act as the buffer that it is and scatter that light so it's not so intense. Because if you're gonna go outside, you could look up at the sun as long as you closed your eyes. I do look at the sun at uh sunrise and sunset when I get the opportunity. It's called sun gazing. I look right at it. Um, my eyesight's gotten better since I've started doing that. Wow. Yeah. Um yeah, people aren't going blind, you know, from having these on, but we always want to be cautious because our eyes are you know our most sensitive organ, and we we only got one set of them. Right. Yeah. Um yeah, I've got a customer, uh long time member, after a few years of regular red light, he no longer has signs of macular degeneration. What? That's awesome. Yeah, um, Dr. Jack Cruz, I was talking about earlier. He had a professional hockey player doing um red light eighty minutes a day for six weeks because he just had a thoracic spine surgery and it was in season, they were trying to get the guy back out on the ice as fast as possible. So Cruz told him to wear the eye protection because that's an extreme amount of red light. And I guess the guy didn't do it and he kept his eyes open. But 80 minutes a day, right? Wow. Studies are showing that three minutes is effective, right? And we don't want to overdo it. Yeah. So apparently this guy was getting some kind of injections uh because he had early signs of macular degeneration. Anyways, the next um eye exam they got after that six-week period, he no longer had any signs of macular degeneration. Wow. So that's a like a that's amazing. Outlier. Um, that's a crazy high dose. I would never recommend anybody do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:16

Um, but you know, in if you just use common sense, it's it's so extremely safe and natural.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:23

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:24

It's really hard to overdo red light, and if you overdo it, you might not see as much benefit. Um and so, you know, just daily, you know, intermittent exposures can be s has such profound effects on our body, especially if we're not getting enough actual sunlight.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:40

I love it. And there's different settings you have on there too. So you is it for like um like uh intensity or so?

SPEAKER_03 1:54:48

I have a new line coming out soon. Okay. So I'm starting with a tabletop panel, and then I'm also starting with full five foot and six-foot whole body panels. Wow. So they won't be modular like this one, okay? And these are like these have all the bells and whistles except for Bluetooth, because I refuse to put Bluetooth and just another unnecessary EMF into my into my devices. And so um it's gonna have a touch screen where you're gonna be able to control each wavelength independently. Um and one of the reasons I wanted to to do this is because this is only 100% all the time, which is it's great. And this is what I use in my membership locations, right? If I want more um recovery, pain inflammation, I go up closer. If I want more skincare, I go further away. Okay. But with these touchscreen devices, there's also four preset modes where it's got a skincare mode, it's got a pain inflammation mode, it's got a sleep mode, right? So it'll adjust the intensities of different wavelengths. There's six wavelengths in that one. It's got the same three plus three additional. Um, so it'll adjust based off of what specific benefit you're going for.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:57

I love that from a from an intentionality standpoint too, because I feel like there's something to be said where if someone goes and puts that mode on, it's like subconsciously in their brain, they're also putting that mode on.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:08

Yeah, so you get that the placebo effect too, which is correct.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:11

It is, it is, it is so real. Like, I literally I just turned 40 and like I'll tell you what, like, I feel like I'm like going backwards in age here, and I don't even feel like it's like um it's like because and this is a completely different rabbit hole, we won't go this deep. I'll just give a couple commentaries here. The fact that like we're told things that we're told from conception, whether you know, at this age you feel this, testosterone drops at this age, and all this type of stuff. I want to break that molden cycle because I feel like there's a way to be able to change shit out from a sublimo to like what what you're feeling, what you're thinking, what you're doing. Um, so I'm just so curious. And and for me, it's gonna take it's this is a lifelong study. I'm I'm just doing this, it's gonna be fun. Um, but I love that you are gonna have those different types of wavelengths, which then sets that intention that helps the person really be able to get that benefit.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:05

Yeah, so at home we use uh a small tabletop device, it's got a stand, and it also has uh the adjustable features, right? And so we I primarily I don't use that uh device really for treatment because I have the big panels, and then I also have this guy, which I use a lot. Um, but the tabletop device, I can tune the red light down to like five or ten percent, and I can turn off the infrared light, or I can leave it on because we can't see infrared, it doesn't get any give us any extra visible light, but fires um got tons of infrared light, so it's natural at night. Yeah. Um, but we use it to light up the entire downstairs because the the red incandescent light bulbs aren't enough. Like when we're when my girlfriend's cooking dinner and we're eating, or girls are doing their homework. Wow. We need enough light to light up the room. Yeah, but we don't want it on full intensity because that's almost too much light. Yeah. And so we set it down to like 10%, and now you have this really dim, chill. Okay. People that come over at after dark, like we we we don't turn the lights on for them just because the neighbors, normal people.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:09

The neighbors are like, what do you got going on over there?

SPEAKER_03 1:58:11

Exactly. And then the bedroom at night, red light district over here, glowing red, yeah. Uh, but people that come over at night, they love it because they realize how much more relaxed they are. It's kind of like sitting by the campfire, right? It it really helps you realize how much these blue artificial light sources are stimulating us and stressing us.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:31

Oh my god, 100%.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:32

You get rid of the blue light at night, you turn on the red light, or they have the red incandescent bulbs. Oh my gosh, you start going to bed earlier, you start sleeping better, and it's because you're protecting your melatonin cycle, which is what's gonna A prevent cancer, and it's gonna be protect your mitochondria. Yeah. So you can charge your batteries long into life.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:51

I love that. I love that. I need I need to charge those batteries as long as possible. So something like that panel, like what does that run you as far as just giving them some context on pricing?

SPEAKER_03 1:59:03

So a big panel like this is $1,500. Okay. Okay. Now, something that's unique about me is I don't charge sales tax. Nice, right? Delivery is free. Nice. And if you're local, I'll even do your installation for free. So it's all inclusive.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:16

I also have um one of the best, if not the best, warranty on the market. Um, these are four years, and my new ones with the touch screen are actually gonna be five years. A lot of my competitors are two and three years. Okay, wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:28

And so um lifespan that you've seen so far, like how long have you seen them go for like six, seven, eight years if we're having any issues as far as I've only been making them since 2020.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:37

So I'm in year, this is um year six, especially going into the seventh year, because I've done six full complete years. Okay. Okay. Um, I started in March. Yeah. So um my failure rate is like 0.2%. Wow. Like I've had two devices come back. Wow. So I also sell to a lot of wellness centers around the valley and uh and around the country, yeah, and gyms and things like that. And so um, I've had two of these panels come back from the same wellness center from the same system that's in a smaller closet type room and it doesn't have any airflow or ventilation.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:11

Oh, overheated.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:12

And so over yeah, uh heat is the only enemy to these because uh typically it's not the LEDs that go bad. Like the LEDs are rated for a hundred thousand hours, like you should not be able to outuse the LEDs. Uh it's the drivers that power the LEDs. Yeah. And um yeah, you know, when they're getting 20, 30 uses a day consistently and there's not enough airflow into the room over over time, it's just degraded the components. Uh, but no, uh as my my plug-in panels, those are the only ones that have ever ever come back. Wow. And you know, they're getting commercial type use. Yeah. And so um, you know, any normal house, any normal setting, any uh normal amount of use, I mean it could you could have uh six, seven, eight, ten people using a day. You're not gonna overuse it. Um these are designed to last forever. I've had I've I've had so many comments from other people that have owned other red light devices, have sold other red light devices. They say the build quality on mine is better than anything that they've seen.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:13

Wow. That's absolutely amazing. And I love that you know now you all have context behind who he is, what you're about, all the things, which is just amazing. And um, and yeah, I've never really gotten this deep in the in the sector of red light. I know that they're good, I know that I have it, I know that I got sick from not having enough sunlight because I used to work like in a garage during COVID. And so, so I'm very, very like all about this type of technology and what we could do to be just intentional and self-evaluation from like what do you want to do, where you want to be, where you want to go. Like, I love this. And I want to get those links for them as far as like the some of the studies that you have, sure, links for your social links to get the quantum read. I think this is amazing. And um, man, I can't believe like it's already been two hours, but this has been in a phenomenal freaking time. Talk about this one real quick, yeah. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:07

Okay, so I wanted to show this one too. I brought this one as well because um, you know, with these big panels that plug into the wall, they do make some form of EMF, electric and magnetic fields, which are disruptive to our biological processes. So I so for the same reason, I probably don't want to put my cell phone directly inside of my head. Um, I also want to put my body directly to the the next to the panel. So I recommend at least six inches of distance to make the EMF completely negligible. Okay. But this one was designed to be safe for skin use. Oh, instead of an alternating current into the electrical grid, it's a direct current. The body works off of a direct current. Um and then uh anything that spins creates a magnetic field, so there's no fan in here intentionally, so it dissipates heat throughout through the side. And so this guy is actually safe for skin contact. And so I use this just as much as my bigger panels because when I have an injury that's like deep and I want to get a lot of light to it, you can stick this guy right on that injury site. So this is my number one seller for pain and inflammation. Women use it during that time of month for like cramping and discomfort. Wow. Um, you know, there's helmets out there. Um these are powerful LEDs, and um, I got it on low here. It's got three different settings low, medium, and high. You can also do red only, infrared only, or both. It's not four wavelengths. Um, but you can put it directly right against your uh skull. And especially the 810 and the 850, don't have any trouble penetrating through bone. But the closer you are to the light source, the deeper the penetration you're gonna get. You do get a little bit of skin reflection, you know, when you have a distance. And so the benefit to putting this directly against the area is you have no reflection and you're gonna get really deep penetration.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:54

And you so you charge it, how long does it last?

SPEAKER_03 2:03:57

So on a full charge, you're gonna get at least 10, 10 minute sessions on full power before it needs to be recharged again. Um, you know, it is a battery device, so you know, kind of like an uh uh iPhone, you know, over time that battery capacity is gonna um you know start to fade away. Yeah. Um you know, my I would say my failure rate on these is about two to three percent, which I think is pretty fantastic for a battery-powered device. Um but no, I've got people that have been using them for over two years. I've been yeah, I've I've had that well, I've yeah, I've I've had these for about two years right now. Okay. And so uh I've got people that still use them every day.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:38

What is that one run?

SPEAKER_03 2:04:40

Uh this little guy's 350. Nice. So it's actually my cheapest product. It's I would say it's my most versatile product. Uh, you're just not gonna do a full body session with it, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:04:49

Um I love it for like you could do like do the face, do the chest, do your breathing technique if you're traveling. You know, you can buy a couple of them, you know.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:58

You can use it as a night light in your bathroom at night while you're getting ready for bed. That's uh another thing I use this for is for the bathroom because we don't have red lights in the bathroom, at least red light bulbs, right? And so, you know, I turn this on and then I set it to the lowest power because I don't want the brightest red light, and then I you know, I can get ready for bed.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:20

Wow. So I love it.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:22

A lot of good uses for this guy.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:23

Wow, that's amazing. So all his devices will be available for you guys to check out, guys and gals out there.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:30

And uh we'll make a discount code for all of your listeners as well. Okay. So the the discount code is gonna be 15%. Uh-huh. And we'll make the code lift off. How's that sound?

SPEAKER_01 2:05:41

Let's go. I love that. Okay. Awesome. Cool. Yeah, no, I love that. And I'm looking forward to, you know, and and this is the thing. The intention of the show is really just to be able to give different um perspectives out there for people to be able to see that there's technologies and there's information and there's modalities, and there's all this research that's been done. And the fact that like you just took all of these, all this information, years and years and years of your life's work, and just we packed it into two hours to supercharge someone's life so then you can get off the medication, sleep better, and just be a better human being altogether. I think this is this is gonna help us because you know, even if something who knows, like blackout, whatever, I mean, we're all gonna have to go back to fucking the basics anyways at that point. It's like, okay, you're gonna go outside, you're gonna figure it out, like we're gonna have to reset. It is what it is. I'm hoping that we can have a parallel reality here, and we can all have some type of like kumbaya, my lord. But what can we do besides enjoy every day?

SPEAKER_03 2:06:41

You know, enjoy every day, do not consent. Yeah, you know, be the superhero in your own life. Amen. Right? Take action, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:49

100%. And uh God bless, and I appreciate you all. And I always like to think about this quote. I follow this YouTuber on on social. And it's like, you, you, me, all of us had to do and had to go through every single step piece, place of your existence to get to the exact moment that we're in right now to be able to listen, to be able to digest, to be able to understand this concept. I mean, you know, this is a lot for me too to learn. And so I'm just so grateful that I've gone through what I've gone through to be where I'm at here today and get to co-create with you. This has been an absolute pleasure, man.

SPEAKER_03 2:07:24

Absolutely. And you know, pain is probably the best teacher. Right? So, you know, we get to the places that we're at because we've we've gone through the pain and then we've decided we want something different, something better.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:37

Amen to that, man. Doesn't challenge you, doesn't change you.

SPEAKER_03 2:07:41

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:45

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