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The Lawyer, The Model & The Men Who Couldn't Handle Her
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This week, I'm joined by attorney, model, and all-around powerhouse Heather Reese for a conversation about what happens when women stop asking permission to take up space.
We talk about rebuilding your life after divorce, walking into rooms where you're underestimated, navigating the legal world as a woman, dating after 30, and why being ambitious still seems to make some people uncomfortable.
Heather shares how a random social media opportunity launched her modeling career, why she believes everyone should shoot their shot, and the lessons she's learned from refusing to fit neatly into one box.
If you've ever felt like you were "too much," this episode is your reminder that you're probably just in the wrong room.
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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to the Taylor Taylor Taylor Show. You guessed it. I'm your host. I'm Taylor Brooke. And today I'm joined with my little vesti Stephanie. We call her my Gen Z correspondent these days because she's young and fun and hip. She knows what's going on. And we also have another guest today. She has proof that you can be both smart, funny, and beautiful. She is a lawyer and a model. Welcome to the show, Heather Reese.
SPEAKER_02Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.
SPEAKER_03I mentioned you are a model and a lawyer, which are two things that typically you don't see going hand in hand. Tell me, how did this happen for you?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, so I went through a divorce three years ago, and I remember telling myself, like, I'm never gonna let somebody else tell me no. Like I like I'm going to be the only I'm gonna advocate for what I want and I'm gonna shoot every shot, right? And I was like on threads about two years ago, and somebody had posted Mal from Crusades of Curves. She's amazing, she changed my life. She was like, I'm looking for like an East Coast model. And I was like, hey girl, like I'm not a formal model, but I'd love to be considered. And I remember she was like, send me a walking video, and I was at work that day, and it was like 6 a.m. I said to my paralegal at the time, I was like, film me walking down the hallway right now. Like she asked for it, we need to send it to her right now. Like, just do it. And I did, and she was like, You're booked, and I've uh got to work with Crusades of Curves ever since. It's been amazing. And it was just like for me, I wanted to show people that you can do like multiple things, right? In today's society, like, first of all, one income usually isn't enough. And then the other part of it is I wanted people to understand, like, lawyers are more than just one thing. Like, being a lawyer is my job, but it's not my whole life.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. And I think that's a common misconception. Um, Steph, you were saying before this that that's what you were kind of scared of. Yeah, like decide if you went to school to be a lawyer and you were a lawyer full-time. Yeah. Like, so is that what made your decision kind of go?
SPEAKER_01You know, I we were talking about this earlier. Uh, we both share a love of arguing. I've always had a passion for proving that I'm correct, whether I'm not, you know, or that's debated, but I always love to fight for, you know, what I believe in. And I remember thinking, okay, something I really want to do is go to law school. And I remember talking to a lot of lawyers and doing some research, and I heard just kind of they were telling me about the long hours and kind of like, you know, you have to be really invested, I think, in what you're doing to put that much time in. And, you know, I shout out to everybody who is a lawyer, but I realized quite quickly I was like, do I want to, you know, sometimes be 12 hours at the office just going through paperwork, you know? And I think I kind of morphed that into my own podcast where I was like, I can find my creative side, but I can also still like take all those arguments that I have at home and kind of put it into something productive, if that makes sense. But I think on that front, what is a typical workday for you kind of look like because you are doing multiple things, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. So I mean, I think that like a lot of the old guard will tell you, you really do have to pick one thing. Like the old guard hates to see somebody, like a lawyer doing multiple things. They hate it, like they cannot stand it. It like sends shivers, like they want nothing to do with it. And I think like Gen Z are really changing that mindset, which I love. Like, I love to be around Gen Z lawyers, Gen Z people in law school because they do not like they say what they say, they don't care, they're posting what they're posting, and I love it. Like, I think it's opened the door for a lot of millennials like myself to be able to be like, all right, like I'm not super extreme, but I'm also gonna show you that I'm more than just this. Like, and they're doing it and they're fine. Like, you know what I mean? So, like, I think it's definitely opening doors, but a lot, but like I will stand by the fact that a lot of the old guard isn't a big fan of it, and you kind of have to be accepting and knowing that, like, just knowing like you're gonna piss a few people off. Like, I definitely do, and it is what it is. Like, my mindset is like that I'm not meant for you, right? Like, if I if if my existence upsets you, uh don't look for me, I guess. But my like normal day consists of like I work at a firm in Center City, and it's like a boutique, um personal jury firm, and you know, I work on cases all day, and then I go home and I do social media, and if I'm lucky, I'll go the weekend, I'll go to New York, I'll talk to some of my friends, we'll do some photo shoots. So it's definitely a bit, a bit chaotic, but I think that doing those things outside of law helped fill my cup to want to come back and be an amazing lawyer.
SPEAKER_03I love that journey, and I used the big J. I never used the big J journey, but um so on that point and that topic there, because we talk a lot about this on the podcast about walking into rooms that women typically aren't promoted in. We're not uh typically, oh, Taylor belongs there, Heather belongs there, Steph belongs there. Just with your background, you are in like entertainment modeling, like that portion, and you're a lawyer. So you you said you have those two sides of you. Do you ever walk into the courtroom and you're like, yeah, these men or these other women, they're totally judging me by the way I look right now. Like I'm put together, I'm beautiful, and somehow like that's not translating well into like the career, like what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_02Um, yeah, like I mean, I'll think I think a lot of the time, right? Like, I can give you the perfect example. I just went to court like two weeks ago, and I was the only person in a colored blazer. Like, I remember looking around and I was wearing this red blazer, um, and everyone else is in all black, like just black and gray. And I was like, that'll never be me, man. That's just not really my vibe. Like, there's always gonna be a pop of color. And I think like it turns some people off, but then other people are like, damn, like I I now that she did that, I think I can do it. Like I have the courage. And there are so many amazing female attorneys that are out here on social media that are pushing that narrative as well, right? And I think for me, fashion has always been a way for me to express myself. And I've always been in rooms that people didn't want me in. Like, I think that that's such that's not a foreign concept to me, even outside of the law, especially walking in a plus size body. Like, a lot of people have preconceived notions of you, right? A lot of people look at you differently. And I think being plus size in a professional field like the law, and then on top of it, like being bold, people are definitely look at me in a way that they're like, ooh. But then there's so many other people that are championing for me and that are advocating, and there's so many clients that are like, wait, I actually want you to be my lawyer because you slay. Like, I love you, like you're amazing. And I've gotten a lot of cases that way from people seeing me and modeling and all these other things. So for me, it's like I've just come to the realization that I'm never gonna make everybody happy, and I quite frankly don't care. Like, the people that I make happy are the people that I'm meant to make happy.
SPEAKER_03Yes, I love that so much. Um, here at Taylor Brooke Media, our legal team, um Casey, shout out, she is very similar to you in the way of she's eccentric, she doesn't care what people think about her, and she's so passionate just about what she does. And like from the entertainer side of it and the media landscape of it all, for me, it was so hard to find legal representation that took me seriously. Like, I would go into law offices and I'd be like, This is my company, this is like what I'm building, this is my podcast. And these men would look at me like, so you really, really want to trademark Taylor, Taylor, Taylor. And I'm like, okay, why are you judging me? Like, I'm trying to make my coin too. So it really took a lot of like logistics and steps forward for me to find like a female attorney that I felt comfortable with, and that would represent me well when I wasn't in the room, if that makes sense. And that's like what you're giving. Like, you're there for your clients, like then. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02I love that. And I think there are like the good thing about being a female in this field uh is that there is so many groups that are helping other women. Like, there's this amazing woman, Betty, who runs this um women's conference called uh Women in Leadership, and it's an amazing conference that hosts women from all around the world in New Orleans, and it brings women in all of these amazing spaces, and you get to be like engulfed and lifted and like just in the presence of people that you never thought you'd be in the presence of. That you're like, okay, wow, like now I now I know if somebody says to me, like, hey, I need a trademark attorney, I know a female trademark attorney I can send them to. Hey, I need a criminal attorney, I know a female criminal attorney. Like, you get to build your circle too, and you get to give back and like make sure that you're pushing it forward. Because for me, the biggest thing is about pushing it forward to the next female attorney. Um, because there's just not enough of us, especially for me as like a Latina attorney. There's definitely not enough of us, and I want to do what I can to help help all of us, you know, kind of win in this.
SPEAKER_03That makes so much sense. And I'm so glad that you're on the podcast talking about this now because I feel like a lot of the listeners, a lot of the little gremlins will be sliding in your DMs and asking you, hey, do you want to talk in the chat? Hey, I have some questions. I think I'm getting sued for defamation. I I need a person. So outside of law, we talk about you and modeling. And you say you go up to New York and you do shoots with your friends. When do you think about that and that portion of your career and your life? What has been the most pinched me moment so far for you? Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02I think the first time I walked a runway. So the first runway that I walked was Crusades of Curves, and it was their Philadelphia show. And it was just because I had never been in that space. I had never been around other models. You know, you hear things like I definitely watched like America's Next Time Model. I didn't know what to expect. And the group of women that Crusades of Curves work with and kind of curate is just this amazing group of women that were all willing to help me and all willing to explain things to me. And like I met this amazing girl, Amanda. She's a a New York model, and she was like, Let me show you how to walk, like, let me help you. Because like here I am, like just fresh out of work, like in my like suit. Like, I'm like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Like, I don't know what a slick back bun is. Like, what are we talking about? And I'm like panicking because I'm like, all these girls can walk, they're can strut, they know what to do, like they know the poses. And she like helped me with it. And for me, like I remember I made a huge reel of it all because like I got to wear these amazing dresses, and it was like to the Hillary Duff, This is what dreams are made of. Because I'm like, this is that moment for me, like, this is the moment that I've been waiting my entire life for. And every time I walk down a runway, I think of that exact same thing. Like I just did one for Viva Voje, which was the New York pop-up. And that time I got to wear stuff that like felt a little bit more legal to me. Like I was wearing like a like a jacket and a skirt, and like it gave kind of like like an L Woods vibe. Like it was very like something I could wear to work, actually. And I was like, this is even better because it's like me encompassing on a runway, and it was just it was amazing. It was like such a good time. So I would say anytime I get to rock walk a runway always makes me like just uplifted.
SPEAKER_03Something that someone told me, I I'm very short. You can't tell from the screen, but I'm like five foot on a good day. And so in middle school, I got to walk like a runway show. And the one thing that they said beforehand, it was like a school event. The woman uh who had done pageants her whole life and she was in modeling, she said, the one thing that everyone says after they walk the runway is I wish I got to do it one more time because I was so nervous, I didn't remember like what it was like. Is that true? Like when you're doing it professionally, not just yeah, a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_02I remember the last one runway I walked, like my heel, my the the part of my sandal came off of my heel. And I'm like trying to walk back, but also like eat while walking back and look good. And I'm like, I gotta hold this sandal on, I gotta hold this sandal on. And I remember walking once I got all the way back, being like, gosh, I wish I had like worn different shoes. Like, and I also wish I could have just like experienced this moment of getting to walk down, being surrounded by all these amazing um people from New York and from Philly and from wherever they traveled in from that were all just experiencing this like um clothing lines that all embrace different sizes, right? Because it wasn't just all plus size. It it, you know, the big thing about that show, that store, that pop-up, was that it went from like traditional sizing to plus sizing. So it wasn't just that. So for me, it was like, I just feel like I wish I could have done it different. Like I would have, I would have worn different shoes, but I think it's also just the high you get from walking down.
SPEAKER_03You're like, I need that, I need that again. That completely makes sense. Also, the Viva Dolce show, I was this close to going, but I had an interview that day and I'd seen that you post it, I was like, oh my god, I would have gotten to meet Heather. Like I felt like you were my parasocial bestie. It's like so close.
SPEAKER_02I love that. It was such a good time. It was such a good time. They make they do such a good show, they really do.
SPEAKER_03So you go to New York often, from what I see on your socials. Is there a favorite part of the city that you have? For me, it's Soho. I love Soho. I love being in that culture. But what's your favorite part?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, it's it's it's it's my my heart is torn because I love Midtown. Like I'm I'm a huge Midtown girly, but my sister lives in Brooklyn and I get to visit her in Brooklyn a lot, and Viva Voce was in Brooklyn, and then there's also amazing thrifters. There's a store called Plus Brooklyn, um, which is like a um plus size vintage consignment store, and like I love that. Like I'm obsessed with that. So I would say like there's a lot of really good vibes in Brooklyn that I like.
SPEAKER_03Have you been to Soft Bar Cafe in Brooklyn yet?
SPEAKER_02No. What is it?
SPEAKER_03It's a uh alcohol-free bar, so it's like based on good vibes, is like the whole catalyst of the place, and all the drinks are made to look like legitimate cocktails, but they have a good stuff for you in there, so it like rehydrates you and like you leave feeling not terrible about you know yourself and your body. Um it's actually pretty cool, but um, yeah, that's like I just went there recently, um, and it was like an opening night, and I was walking around Brooklyn and I haven't been there in years. And just how much fun Brooklyn is like we don't talk about it enough.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, it's a vibe. It's definitely a vibe. Like, I mean, like I said, I'll always be like a midtown girly. I I will always love that, but I'm just like such a such a huge fan of Brooklyn. I think the food that's there, I think the vibes that are there, the art that's there, like it's just it's an energy. It totally is.
SPEAKER_03So for my listeners, we like to on the show definitely go into like if you were 15, 14, 16 years old, and you're listening to this, and someone's looking and they're like, Heather seems so cool. I'm never gonna be that cool. I'm never gonna be a lawyer and a model. Like, do you have any advice that you would want to give like little you or like these future creators?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, I would say my biggest thing is shoot every shot. Let somebody else tell you no. Because I think there are so many times where we often uh count ourselves out. And I think that you would be surprised how many people are willing to say yes to you when you just put yourself out there. I've made I've met hundreds of people through social media, um, especially through threads. I'm a huge fan of threads. Um and I've gotten to meet business people from all around the world when I um did my series um promoting bipocaline businesses. And it really was like, for me, I just was like, I have this idea, I'm gonna shoot it, I'm gonna see what happens. And I think that's my best advice is let somebody else tell you no. So, like, don't ever count yourself out, just try it, be delusional and everything.
SPEAKER_01I love that so much. I love when people promote being I always it's funny that you say that because I always say that you should be realistic, but there always needs to be a slight element of delusion. Because you never know until you try. And the worst thing that can happen is they say no, right? But at least you can look back and be like, okay, but I put myself out there and I I did something. And kind of on that front, do you think that kind of throwing yourself into this modeling thing for the first time has that changed your perspective on law at all, or kind of like helped you to, you know, even enter rooms more confidently and and try out new techniques that maybe you didn't before?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, I think like the law and modeling have some things in common, like timing. Like a lot of the times, like um, when you're booking for a shoot or you're doing a shoot, like timing matters, like people value time. And I think that's the big thing with law too. Like, you're given deadlines, you're given this, this is what it is, you better get this stuff done in time. And I think I've learned to appreciate timelines more. Um, I think also for me, the aspect that modeling has brought to me is like a not that I wasn't confident before, because like I was confident, but it was just a new wave of confidence that came over because it was like, all right, I'm confident in the way that I look and the way that I feel, but this is also a new confidence in the way that I move, right? In the way that I'm people want to work with me, or somebody wants to do something with me, it's like also just the the like I became more confident in the vibes that I'm able to bring to a situation, and um also like being able to help people uh on multiple levels, right? So I would say a lot of the things that I've changed about being a lawyer um are things that were just things I didn't learn at like being a big a baby lawyer, right? Like, you know, when you're a baby lawyer, you're overthinking everything, you're like second-guessing things, and I think that wave of confidence that I got brought back into when I went into modeling was just more so like I'm gonna stand ten toes down, like this is what it is, like I know what I know, and that's what it is. And if I don't know it, I'm gonna ask somebody, but became more confident in my uh like my stances on things.
SPEAKER_03That makes a lot of sense. Um, so uh you mentioned you were married, no longer married. Are you single? No, I'm remarried.
SPEAKER_02No, I'm remarried, yes. I got married in August last year. Thank you, thank you. This girl does not stay single for long. Um no, I met the love of my life um two years ago, right after my divorce, um, in the process of my divorce, and he's like the greatest guy. He wears my face on a shirt at you know, all my runway shows and all my speaking events, and um you know, it's crazy because you always you you date people and you don't realize like the kind of love that is really out there. And it's like the perfect example is like I just said to my my husband, I was like, oh man, I really want like a like a whopper, which is crazy, which is so random. And he literally had uh a whopper sent to my office, and I'm like, that's it, man. That's like the kind of love I needed, right? Send me the food that I just casually brought up. Um yeah, I mean, like it's definitely been wild, it's been a wild ride. Um, but yeah, no, I'm very grateful and I I'm glad that I got to find my you know true love later on.
SPEAKER_03So the reason I ask is, do you think that being so accomplished as you are, do you think it was difficult for you to get back into the dating world after your first marriage? Like, were boys intimidated like to come up to you and talk to you? Stephanie runs into that a lot. So that's why that's why I'm asking.
SPEAKER_01She's she's lying.
SPEAKER_02Stephanie's trash. Oh my gosh. Like, I because I had been married, I had met my ex-husband when I was 17 years old, and I got I got divorced when I was 32. So like I had no concept of like online dating or like casual dating or anything like that. So like it was definitely a different experience because I also like use I used to remember always say, like, the standards are in the subway. Like they're not even on the floor, they're in the subway. And because I felt like that's how all of my friends had standards, like it was so low, they're like, oh, he like paid for my food or he got me fives. I'm like, what do you mean? Like that's basically like I realized how much right it's in the subway. And I was like, I realized that I put so much effort into my first marriage, and I I was like, somebody is gonna treat me like this. This is what I expect, because this is what I was able to give to somebody. And I think like it was tough because I have very strict standards when I date, and I think people didn't love that, like men didn't love that. Like, I'm not, like, I'm not a situation chip kind of gal. Like, I'm not gonna be your situation chip for like more than two months. Like, if I don't have a title in three months, like I used to say, like, it's like a Netflix subscription, you get 90 days, and like if I'm not your girlfriend or boyfriend, I'm out.
SPEAKER_03I love that. We were um most recently we had a meeting uh with a potential sponsor of the show, and it was us and our lawyer, and the guy was single, and so is our lawyer. And the way that he was flirting with her, he was like flirting with her in corporate, like she was like, This is what I think, like law wise, and then he was like, So, like, he got Roth investments, he got a 401k. I was like, it was this how men are trying to like what is happening? I'm gonna be sick, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, it's shocking. I think the audacity has changed. Like, I would never have imagined men talking to me the way that they talk, the way that they talked to me when I was single, right? Like when I was single and I was fresh dating, I had no idea what I was doing, and I was like, I can't believe you just said that to me. Like, do you like does your mother know you talk like this? Like, what are you doing? Like, that's crazy. Like, I like we just we just matched on hinge, and you're like, you're talking crazy. No way, absolutely not. Like, and that was definitely shocking for me. But again, like I think I'm pretty strict. I think a lot of men didn't like it because I am very outspoken, and not only that, like like a lot of the times the men that I was dating, we were in different like financial tiers. So I think that always was a complicated thing because a lot of men didn't love that, right? Like they're used to being like dating whoever who makes whatever amount, and I might may or may not have made more, and like I'm not insecure about money, so I'm like, no, I don't I don't mind like buying this for myself or doing whatever if like that's not what you want to do. Like, I want to experience it this way, and if you don't want to experience it, like do you, but like I'm not changing my standards for how I'm gonna experience something because it's not something that you can do, like that's fine, like I'm not gonna make you feel bad about it, but like I think a lot of men were intimidated by that and didn't love that. But I also met some really great guys, so like I'm not here to shade all men. I definitely don't like men for the most part, but I would say, like, you know, it was definitely rough dating online.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, I I remember that. Like when Hinge first came out, it was like the app designed to be deleted, and like everybody and their brother was on. Oh my gosh, so much. And like to the point of like what you said, being in a different financial spot than a significant other. The amount of times that I've noticed that bothers men more than bothers women is so it's such a big discrepancy. So, like, I can see that, and I feel like a lot of my friends like they deal with that same even in their marriages, they'll deal with that same kind of back and forth. And it's like, why can't the woman you know be the breadwinner the breadwinner, you know, quote unquote. Like, if you want to experience something, you should experience it how you want to, and that shouldn't be indicative of like who your partner is for sure. So, can you tell us about a time uh because we did talk about walking into rooms that women aren't typically welcome in, or maybe we don't have a big presence in to begin with? Is there one moment that sticks out to you of wow? That was a crazy moment. They were so mean to me, but I showed them up and I was like, I'm gonna stay here anyway.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh, there are so many, which is sad. But I think if you were to ask any other female lawyer, they would say there are so many too, right? Like we're conditioned to think like it's not like there should be a class in law school about like what it's like to be a female attorney because I really think it is a different, it is a different environment you're experiencing. It's a different, um, as and also being like whatever age you are if you're younger, right? So I've had a lot of people speak to me in ways that I'm just like ultimately shocked by. And what I like to do a lot of the times is I will repeat what somebody says back to them because I want them to rehear it. Um, or like I would say, like, oh my god, you know, I can't believe you're like the same age as my dad. That's so crazy. You're like the same age as my dad. Is for me that's a way to like bring it back when you have just said something really inappropriate to me. So I would say, like, that's probably the most bad thing because I've had some inappropriate things said to me where I have to be like, that's so weird. Oh my god, you're the same age as my dad. That's so crazy. Did you guys go to school together, maybe? Um, and I think that like that resets the situation pretty well.
SPEAKER_03I can't wait to talk about that in therapy. I'm gonna tell my therapist. I'm gonna be like, so I learned this new trick that when someone's mean to me, I'm just gonna repeat what they said back until they realize it was mean. Heather, can I be so honest?
SPEAKER_02I would be would you say a lot of people get shocked by it. They're just like, like, because it's like they almost forgot that they said it, or they're so shocked that you called them out for thing. I'm like, no, no, no. I just want to confirm. Is this what you said, or did you mean something else? And they're like, what? And I'm like, no, that's what you said, but I feel like you probably meant something else. There's like no way that you meant that. Like, that would be crazy. But if that is what you meant, let's just stand by it. Is that what you said? Is that what you meant? And then people are like, and then you get so uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_01I love this so much. This is like my ideal conversation. Can I be so honest? I would be so afraid to go up against you in court. I feel like I would just give up. Like, I just wouldn't. I'd be like, Your honor, she's the lays. I was just belly in and I'd be like, she clocked me. Like, it's just not gonna work.
SPEAKER_02No, I I it's funny too, because like I have had to go up against so many female attorneys, and like some of which I'm really good friends with. Um, because I have a lot of friends on the defense side, right? And it's like you have that moment where you're like, damn, she's really killing it though. Like she is eating, like she's eating me up in this argument, and I look dumb. And I'm like, you know what? Like, it is what it is. Like, this is what this is the situation, guys, you know, because it's like I never want to do like discredit someone else, but I'm I also have to advocate for my client, right? That's my job. So I'm advocating for my client, but I'm like, damn, damn, she really ate me up. And like I'll definitely text my friend after and be like, yo, you really killed in that, in that argument that we just had. I mean, I hate you. That was terrible. Don't ever do that to me again. But also, like, really proud of you as another female attorney, like, super proud of you. Um, but no, I've had so and my friends will say the same thing. She's like, yo, I mean, like, I didn't think you were gonna come up with that argument that came out of nowhere, and I'm like, didn't think I was going to either, but surprise us both, right? Um, so yeah, no, it's definitely um an interesting thing being in court and going against your friends, you're going against other people. I'm the same that I am here, though, in court. Like, I think that's the funny part.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that makes you so authentic for sure. I think that would be a main reason why a lot of people would want to work with you because it's the same person. Yeah. So a lot of people we know must look up to you. And I'm sure after this podcast episode drops, there's gonna be more and more people that are like, Heather is so cool. Like, I want to emulate that as I grow up, as I get older in the next stage of my life. So when you think about your career and what you've done so far, even in your daily life, is there a certain person or group of people that you look up to that you're like, oh, this person I try to emulate? Like, whether it's Mel Robbins or Taylor Swift, or like who's your go-to person?
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. Um, I feel like there are so many really great ones. Um I would say, like, really honestly, this sounds so cheesy, but like all of my friends, like all of my friends that are out here, female attorneys, killing it. I'm I'm so proud of them. I'm so happy that we get to share a space and I'm so inspired by them. I would say Betty, who runs the Will by Betty. I would say Mal, the woman who got my life into modeling. Those women inspire me constantly because they're just out here doing amazing things for groups of people that a lot of the time society discredits. I guess like plus size models, you know, especially now with the new wave, like we were really big into plus size models during COVID. And then now, you know, we've gone back to more so like skinny talk and like all of these other things where we're kind of like put on the back burner. So I would say women like Mao continuing to push for, you know, inclusion and diversity. And then I would say when it comes to Betty, just a kind of woman who is um willing and able to make a room that um is filled with such powerful women that are so inspiring, that are so amazing. I mean, there's there's so many female attorneys that I that I aspire to be like. Gina Zapata is one. She's an attorney in California, she's just so cool. There's, you know, our teen attorney Martinez, who is the like legally blonde attorney um who does immigration law. Um, so yeah, I mean, like it's such a hard thing because I can't pinpoint one person because they all are just, I'm inspired by all of them so heavily.
SPEAKER_03That's incredible. I'm so glad that we got a chance to sit down and talk today. And I cannot wait for my little gremlins to hear this and get to follow you and your career and your life. So tell me, where can they follow you? Where can everyone find you?
SPEAKER_02Yes, absolutely. You can reach out to me on Instagram. My Instagram is Heather underscore RXOXO. Um, I'm a personal injury attorney in Philadelphia. Um, so if you ever need anything, don't hesitate to reach out. If it's something else that you need, I I know other attorneys that can help in other fields. I'm more than happy to help somebody along the way.
SPEAKER_03This is amazing. Thank you so much, Heather. And we have to grab drinks soon. Next time I'm in the city, I'm texting.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. 100%. It was thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER_03Of course, thank you so much, and we'll see you all next week.
SPEAKER_01Nice to meet you, Heather.