How to Unblock Your Next Income Level in Your Business

What if your income isn’t stuck because of strategy… but because of a belief you haven’t questioned yet?

This episode is a deep dive into money mindset and the hidden money blocks keeping you capped—especially as a female entrepreneur doing “all the right things” but not seeing the results.

I sat down with Caryn from Live Iconic, and within minutes she was calling out subconscious beliefs that were quietly running the show.

💸 What We Talk About

•  The “money has to be hard” belief (and why it’s keeping you stuck) 
•  How childhood programming shapes your relationship with money 
•  Why making money doing what you love can feel uncomfortable 
•  The fear of out-earning your parents (and how it shows up) 
•  Your “financial thermostat” and why you keep self-sabotaging 

🔥 Key Takeaways

•  Money is less about strategy—and more about belief 
•  Your thoughts are often stories, not facts 
•  You’ll always find evidence to support what you believe 
•  Awareness of your block is what creates the breakthrough 

👉 Ask yourself:
 “What do I fear would happen if I made more money?”
That answer = your block.

💡 Acting Like a Millionaire (for real)

It’s not about spending money you don’t have.

It’s about:

•  How you carry yourself 
•  The rooms you get into 
•  The standards you hold 

Start small. Embody it now.

🚀 Final Truth

You don’t have a money problem.
 You have a belief problem.

Shift the belief → change everything.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Listen, I know you're listening to this podcast because you're trying to scale. And I bet you that you're doing all the right things in your business, but somehow the money still isn't flowing to you the way that you think it should. Don't you worry. This podcast is gonna be perfect for you because we're gonna be talking about what's blocking you from your money. Hey y'all, welcome to Your Girl, the podcast for 67 figure coaches who are ready to scale their business and hit their dream numbers. I'm your host, Marie, founder of Your Girl Media, a boutique agency and podcast company helping scale coaches just like you through podcasts and high-ticket sales. We are recording this in my room in Lisbon. I'm here for two months, and I also don't have my mic. My best friend. It was too heavy to bring, and I flew on Orionair, and they would have fucked me if I brought my mic. So I'm recording on my phone. So sorry about the audio. But anywho, today we are talking to Karen, and I met Karen at the Bessie's Wardroom conference in January, and essentially I had asked a money question to the audience, and no one answered what I was asking. Like I everyone answered me very logically, but I was like, that's not what I'm asking. And so I kind of felt like I left that session, kind of like, mm-hmm, no one gets what I'm asking about. And then this woman came up to me and my friends and was like, I have some advice for you. And she not only broke my brain, she got my friend to cry on the spot. That's how she broke all three of our money mindsets on the spot and then walked away. And we were like, who is that woman? Well, that woman is Karen, and that's who I'm having on today, who I'm so excited to have you listen to because we're talking about some of the money mindset blocks that are subconsciously stuck inside you that's actually blocking you from the money that you're trying to make right now. So enough of me, let's get into it. Okay, so if you can say your name, your business, and if your business is a cocktail.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Hi, I'm Karen Leitinger, and my business is Live Iconic, where it's the transform from the inside out. And if my business is a cocktail, it would be a Hugo Spritz. Because one, it's my favorite drink, and two, it's light, it's tasty, it's refreshing, and not that many people know about it. So it has this unique. What I love about a Hugo Spritz and how I can align it with my business is people don't know what it is, and then once they taste it, they can't get enough of it. I've never heard of it. I'm actually looking it up right now. Oh my god, it's so freaking good! It's prosecco, mint, seltzer, and Saint Germain. Okay, in a sham in a wine glass with ice, and you just stir it, and you can make like all different, like fun, different ways of making it. Like I made a holiday version, so I added pomegranates in there.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Yeah, it's super fun. Okay, I love that. I did a session with you, and I would definitely say, yeah, refreshing. Like, like you leave feeling healed and also cleansed. Yes, I love that. Yeah, it's not like a heavy whiskey drink, it's like by the pool or just by like, you know, at a nice cocktail hour.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

You're gonna have to go make one and tell me what you think.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

I'm going to New York this weekend, so I feel like that's a great place to try like a Hugo Spruce. Perfect. Yeah. At a nice cocktail bar, and they're like, wow, you know this drink. I'm like, mm-hmm. Someone told me. Um, so today we're gonna be talking a lot about money mindset because the reason this came up is we met at a conference called Bestie's Boardroom, and I don't even know why you came up to me, my friends, or what pulled you, but we were kind of talking about that stuff, and you ended up making my friend cry in a good way, but like you came out of nowhere, and you came up and you quickly dissected us on like some of our money mindset blocks, and um, specifically with Laura, she got quite emotional because I feel like you just hit a vein so quickly and opened all of our eyes. Me and Andrea tend to have the same block, but Andrea had a specific one. And after that, we were like talking about you all night. We were like, Karen, Karen, this, Karen, that. So um, I feel like you're the perfect person to get on for this.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

What I will say is that way it's bet at Bestie's boardroom. You asked the reason why I came up to you is you asked a question to the panel. That's what it was, and it was about it was about money and like where you were financially at this point and why, like where you're kind of blocked in in that aspect. And the panel were giving answers that were very strategy focused. And and then I wanted to answer you privately because a lot of money, a lot of money, yes, you always need strategy, but a lot of money is from within. It is a mindset, and so that is why I came up to you because I thought I had a really solid answer and a takeaway for you in that moment. And I just felt really called. Like, I don't usually just go up to people like that, but I was like, I need to answer this because this will change your freaking life.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

It was actually let's dive into that money's mindset block that I had. Um, our block was the hard work myth that money should be hard. It should come from like long, exhausting hours. Like, money doesn't come easy and for and for different reasons. Um, Andrea comes from like her family are immigrants, so they worked their ass off to get over here. And like they tell her that money should be hard. Also, I think the boomer generation in general tells you money should be hard. Um, and then for me, we found out that I actually like that the money is hard and the easy is boring. So, yeah, do you mind typing a little bit? Like, if you ever worked with a client on like the hard work myth that money should be hard.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Yeah, I mean, I'm my own testimonial on that as well. But a lot of times is yes, uh, we it it is programming. We are programmed that we need to hustle in order to make money. It's like, oh, if I work hard, then I'm perceived and seen as successful. And like you said, you you had this awareness though, well, if money is easy, then I'm bored. And there's ways to reframe it where you can be, okay, when has money come easily when I wasn't bored? Hmm. For you, when when has when has money shown up in your bank account, but you weren't bored by it?

SPEAKER_01 6:37

I feel like with my community, there's people signing up all the time, but like I have so much fun in the community. Like today, someone signed up.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

Yeah, and as you find more examples and more grounded examples of dismantling this belief that money has to be hard. I was coaching one of my clients, and she she's a speaking coach, and but what she really wants to do is MC. And so I was like, Well, how much are you charging to MC? And she's like, Oh, I don't I don't charge for that. And she's like, I love that, I can't charge for that. And I was like, Oh, so you can't make money for doing the thing that you actually love to do. And it in in that moment, you're like, oh, wait, of course I can. But we're taught that if we actually enjoy what we're doing and make money doing it, that somehow that money is bad or it's not good money. And and we stop ourselves, we we give ourselves a ceiling that it doesn't get to be easy. I mean, I just lost one of my my dearest friends, but she always says, said it gets to be easy. And when you start affirming that it gets to be easy, and for you, it gets to be easy and fun, right? We can add that in and then keep reminding yourself of when was it easy and fun? Because when you start doing that, you have your reticulated activated system, right? Your RAS, your RAS is like what what you focus on expands. For example, for those who don't know, if you just bought a red car or a red Honda Civic, I don't know, that's a bad example, like a red Porsche, let's just say. Now all of a sudden you're gonna see a lot more red Porsches than you ever saw before, because now it's like a focus. You're it's like when somebody calls your name, like you hear it in like a really noisy place because you're so focused, it's like where your focus is because we're constantly like filtering out the things that aren't important to us. So, but when we start to look at what we actually do want, more of that starts to show up. So if it's like I want to make money and have fun, when have I made money and I had fun? You'll start to see it more. It'll start, and these are just like very like easy tools that you can bring into your daily life where where it's like, oh, I have a limiting of belief, right? And and a lot of this comes from Byron Katie work. It's because she has something called the work, and it's all about like like dismantling judgments and getting really curious and like using your judgments and your belief system as a mirror. And so what you can do is okay, my belief is that money is hard, right? Or if if money comes easy, then I'm bored. What's the opposite of that?

SPEAKER_01 11:36

I mean, yeah, if if money comes to me, I'm it's fun. Yeah, I'm entertained. Yeah, it's fun.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

Or I'm entertained. So we're taking away this belief system that money is boring, like money coming easy is boring because once we have grounded examples that what you're saying isn't actually true, you stop believing your own bullshit. And another thing Byron Katie says, she she she says that if you argue with reality, you will lose 100% of the time. So we all are wearing different lenses. We can see the exact same car accident and five people see it, and there could be five different perspectives and five different stories of what happened because it's a perception and the lens that you saw it from. If you're wearing pink glasses, everything's gonna look pink. If somebody's wearing blue glasses, everything's gonna look blue. But in reality, it's neither. So it's it that's what happens is we start believing our own bullshit. And when we can start to dismantle this belief that it's fact, you can ask yourself, is it with a hundred percent certainty that this is true? That you would bet all of your money, your house, your family, whoever on it. And I would say a hundred percent of the time it's not true, it's just a story that you're telling ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

We create so many stories, and we're not realizing they're stories because yeah, we're we're talking in our in our worlds like it's a fact. And that story is probably like 15 years ago. You're like, like for mine for mine, it's like I worked in restaurants literally, not even like five years ago. That's how I made money. Money was hard. So when I got when I made money, I it felt so satisfactory because I worked my ass off for it. Well, that was five years ago, like that's not present day. So I've created this story, so it's like I now need to, and anyone else listening now need to make sure I'm reframing and also finding newer examples. Like I got paid$300 for a strategy call, and I am having so much fun prepping for the strategy call. And that's that money came to me easily. Someone, it was a referral, and I'm having fun. It just I'm not maybe the actual cash moving to me is different, but the action is fun. So, yeah, just finding new new examples and to question the story that you not a fact, question, it's probably a story and to question it.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

Yeah, it's always a story, and because even if I'll just give you like a a little digression, but it it's relevant of different people's perceptions and different stories. So I told my friend I was giving up alcohol for a year, and she said to me, What? Why? Why would you do that? That makes no sense to me. Why don't you do just like three months? So, what happened is she knows that she can't give up alcohol for a year, so she's now projecting her limitations onto me, thinking making which is making her feel a certain way. It's the same relationship with money. If we start having this relationship where we're putting limitations on money, it's a projection of the work that you haven't done on yourself yet. And all of this comes back to childhood. It's all of our programming of what our parents were saying to us that money doesn't grow on trees, money is evil. Like my, for example, my dad really disliked his brother, my uncle, for a really long time because my bro, my uncle hit money or hit, I think he bought some sort of stock or he did something in the stock market and made like hundreds of thousands of dollars. And back then in the 80s, that was like insane money, right? And and my dad was really triggered by his success, by my uncle's success. And so what I learned in that moment as a kid was if you flaunt your money, because my uncle would like kind of flaunt his money, like you were a terrible person. So I was brought up with this impression that you're pretentious if you have money, and that like you're you're icky, right? Like you, you know, anyone who brags about their money is bad. This is like my belief system as a kid. So when I came into money, interesting story. Um, so I bought myself a Maserati. And when I bought myself a Maserati, I was not a vibrational match yet for this car. So I hated this car. I hated it. And I my now husband, when I first met him, I the first thing I said to him, I said, I'm buying a Maserati is this gonna bother you, instead of just owning it. Like, no, I I am allowed to have a Maserati, but like I was so programmed that flaunting money was bad that I couldn't I hated the car. I hated the car. And now I can have a Maserati all day. I do not have one. Um, I I have created a story how much I hate that car. But um, but in that moment when I had it, I was buying it because I thought I was like proving something, but I wasn't because I didn't do the money mindset work around stuff that happened from my childhood. So I oh my that car always broke down. Wow, it was always in the in the shop. Like I only had that car for two years. I have all my cars for like seven to ten years. I had that car for two years, I hated it. It felt so icky like getting in and out of that car because I just I hadn't done this work. I still felt like like right, it was a sense of like flaunting and and or or in in my story, it was a sense of flaunting. And so I I couldn't, I couldn't, I I felt ick. And it was because of this programming from my childhood of people who flaunt their money or bad people. So I just felt like this bad person because of the car I drove. Now, how ridiculous does that sound?

SPEAKER_01 18:19

And in the end, it's an object that drives you around, but like, look at how much that affected you to the point it started breaking down because I was like, I can feel you don't like me.

SPEAKER_00 18:27

Like exactly. Like I can feel exactly. So I had to do a lot of work around it and and know that these were just stories that were they actually true, that if you had money, you were a bad person, and then you find the opposite to be true. Who has money that's a really good person? And then it's this reminder of oh, a lot of people who make a lot of money do a lot of really good things with their money.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

Yeah, and focus on the negative a lot though, like in anything, like we always focus on you'll have you'll know five rich people, and you'll really focus on that one that sucks, you know? And then you have to remind yourself, like you're saying, be like, wait, the other four are really nice and they always give and they always, but you're so focused on that one that you're like, money's evil.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

Because that's your belief system, that's your childhood belief system. So your RAS activates, and you're gonna find true, you're gonna find evidence to back up your story. Always whenever your story is right, it happens in in politics. And I'm not a political person, but like even in politics, like you'll hear like one belief system they only want to hear and and hear from the people that back up their belief system. And when you challenge it, it's the same with money. When you start challenging it, it gets a little messy, and and it starts becoming an identity breakdown. So our identity now shifts. For example, my mom and I have very different political belief systems, and she can't have a conversation with me because I don't back up her belief system. So she feels, I don't even know what she feels, but there's so much friction because we have a different belief system, and that's what's kind of happening with money, the relationship with money. It's like, oh, money has to be hard. That's your relationship with money. So how do we dismantle and find find proof that your story is wrong or your story is different?

SPEAKER_01 20:37

What about for the person who this isn't me, but I just I know this is one for a lot of people who are scared to out-earn their parents? Uh you know, what if their parents make I don't know, they've they've only made like$60,000 a year, and this person knows they have the potential to be making$300,000 a year, but they they might be like subconsciously capping themselves, or even if they make$300,000 a year, how you felt the Maserati, they feel shame. Yeah, you may like what happens to people who like feel like they're they out-earned they're the people who provided for them.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

Yeah, I mean, it it's all the inner inner chatter, right? It's like, okay, I feel shameful. Shame also can be your biggest superpower, but where is the shame actually coming from? The shame is probably coming from your actually your parents. So now there's this riff of if I outperform my parents, that because this is a a lot, a lot of this happens with people pleasers. Okay. Is they will dim their own light because they don't want somebody else to feel small. And so if I start out earning my parents, now some way I think, I believe, that's gonna make my parents feel small. So I'm gonna dim my own light and my own authenticity and my own expression of myself so that I don't make somebody feel a certain way. And so this is where you have to start dismantling the people pleasing. Just because you shine bright doesn't mean you're dimming somebody else. But a lot of people attach and associate that together, and so we can't, we we don't we hit a ceiling, we hit a ceiling, and it's called like an upper limit. There's um uh a book by uh Gay Hendricks. Yeah, it's all about upper limits. And what happens is like we haven't expanded safety in our body to create the thing that we want because now we think it's bad. If we outperform our parents, now this is bad. Now I no longer feel safe in my body. And if I don't feel safe in my body, then I'm no longer, then I'm gonna hit a ceiling and I'm gonna self-sabotage and bring myself back to comfort, right? Comfort for some people is anxiety all the time. It's like if I you live a day without anxiety, you're like, oh my God, this isn't normal. And then you self-sabotage and bring yourself back into anxiety. It's the same with money. It's like we create these financial thermostats of whatever 10,000 months, 20,000, 50,000, 100,000, millions, whatever your thermostat is. And then if we go over, let's say, just to keep things simple, let's say you do 20k months and then you have a 30k month. Now what happens? You're like, you don't bring the thermostat to 30. You're now like, okay, well, 20 is my normal. So now maybe next month I'm gonna be at 10. And you and you keep yourself at this thermostat because that's your comfort. And the way you shifted is by being courageous, being brave, stretching yourself, expansion, allowing yourself to expand. But a lot of times we don't do that because we we are comfortable not being the right light, right? The one who shines so bright. Because if we shine so bright, then we're putting somebody else. We think we're putting somebody else down.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Yeah, that's so that's such a good point. Like just to ask the audience, like, what's a number if it landed in your bank account next month? Like, would you start to feel like you stretch too far? You know, like maybe it's$10,000 at next month, maybe it's 15, maybe it's 50. Like, I feel like that's a good question to ask yourself. Because we say all day, oh, I want to make 50k months. And if you're like, wait, if I actually got$20,000 in my account tomorrow, what would how would I? And if it doesn't feel right, then like what makes you think you'd be you're gonna hit the 50K?

SPEAKER_00 24:48

And a really good question to ask, it's a hard question. I think I even asked you this in our call. But what do you fear would happen if$50,000 hit your bank account tomorrow? What do you fear would happen? And and it at first you're like, nothing, it'd be great, and it's awesome, but there's some unconscious programming that fears having that much money.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Mm-hmm. Yep. I feel like that right there is like probably so many people's answers to things.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

I'll give you a really vulnerable answer.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Because my husband will never watch this.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

So that's yeah, he won't find it's called your girl. He'll never find it.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

He'll never find it. He just left. Don't don't share this. But so, but share it to the world. Yeah. So for me, okay, I notice that I bring money in very easily in all aspects of my life, minus this new coaching business that I've started, right? It feels like like hard and like visibility and bringing in the clients, and and but I have a really high wealth frequency. So, like money for me is coming in all the time from all this diversification that I have. And I found out my block. I found out my block. And so my husband and I, we have a prenup, but anything postmarital is postmarital. So I realized that as I build my business and this empire, and this is really vulnerable for me, um, that if we don't work out for whatever reason, he gets half my shit. And this is a huge awareness. This is like a very recent awareness. Like, cause I'm noticing where where I have money that's protected and where I don't, okay, and the ease and flow that money comes in to that is protected versus not is very different. It was very interesting. So now, like, I'm obviously putting things in place to set up different kinds of protections. Not that I think we're gonna break up or anything like that, but it was just a pattern I started to notice, but it took me a long time to figure it out because I just have to go inward and being like, because I know how it is, you're doing all the right things, you're hiring all the coaches, all the mentors, you're investing in yourself, you're you're putting yourself out there, you're being seen, and then it's crickets, and you're like, what the fuck? Like, why? Like, why is there no ROI on everything that I've been doing? And it's it in the block, and most of the time, people don't know even know what the block is. I didn't know what my block was. Now I know what my block is, so now I can use this as a stepping stone to use it to create the empire that I'm building. Now I'm being invited on stages. Now I'm getting myself in rooms. I'm created a brand new offer that I already had somebody buy. Wow. Because I recognize the block, like a high-ticket offer, right? Like a super high-ticket offer. Because once you see the block, we're not trying to get rid of it, we're just acknowledging it and noticing it and loving it. It's kind of like parts work a little bit. Like we're just loving that part of ourselves that has that block. And then once you see it, you're like, oh, how can I use this as my stepping stone to the thing I actually want? How is it serving me? How is it serving me? For me, it's like, oh, well, you're not gonna make money in your business because it's not perfected, because you're not gonna do all this work to give it all away. Yes, I'm all about you know, donating and and contributing, but not to somebody who I don't want to give it to. And so now I know this block and I'm dismantling it and being like, okay, how is this, how was this actually serving me? How was me not making money in this business serving me? And now I can see it. And that it's deep, it's deep, it's deeper work. Like, I wish there was just like, I'm gonna give you all these takeaways and you're gonna go apply it to your life, and tomorrow you're gonna have 20k in your account. It's a lot of inner game and dismantling belief systems and finding the patterns. A lot of times we don't even know we're in the pattern. But then when we see the pattern, then we can we can shift it and we can change it, and we can expand on it, and then we can create new habits in place of the pattern that isn't necessarily serving us. But there's always a reason. There's always a reason it's serving us. Always. It's when you find the reason why it's serving you, then you see it and then you love that part of you. But when you start loving that part of you, the universe, God, whatever you believe in, angels, God, universe, whoever, like it becomes self-trust. And when you have self-trust, you take the actions, you do the big things, the opportunities show up, and you're able to create the very thing you've been holding back on.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

It's really, really crazy if once you find a block and that just that just acknowledging it, how much things come flooding in. But you have to find the block. And I think a lot of people, yeah, are listening like finance podcasts and they're hearing all these strategies, just how at that conference I asked a question, it did not satisfy me. I was like, that's not the problem. And then when when we you came over and we found the deeper issue, and all you did was ask questions. You can do that to yourself. Like, if you don't have a coach yet, like I find the journal is the best coach.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Like, ask yourself the questions, and you will and ask yourself the questions without chat GPT.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Yeah, definitely not that.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

It this is so interesting. So I am become like an AI junkie because it makes my life a lot easier. But when I was first leaving my business and starting, like I was I started a different business before I got into this, and I was writing down the culture that I wanted in my business, and this was like pre-Chat GBT, and what I wrote down, I was like so amazed and impressed with the own wisdom that I came up with with no AI. And so, yes, I am a big fan, you know, it's a great tool, but when you're looking within, I highly recommend ask yourself powerful questions. The better the questions you ask, the better the answers you're gonna get. When you have surface level questions, you're not gonna, you're gonna get surface level answers. So, like even with the work we you came in with the question and left with a completely different, you know, completely a different awareness. Because it's it's you gotta go deeper into the into the inner work of what it actually is at the core. Because then once you clear it, you know, once you clear it, it's oh, yeah. I am the only person in my own way.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Yeah, yeah. And usually it'll take you down a rabbit hole you just never, never expected. I remember we I came wanting to talk about money, and we ended up talking about um love, self-love, romantic love. It was just like it goes down the rabbit hole, but you have to you have to follow the whole path. You can't get scared and stop because then you're you'll just get more, you'll just be stuck. Like you got to follow the whole thing, the whole thought.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Yeah, and resistance is gonna come up because it's challenging your belief system, it was challenging everything that you've known your whole life. And now here's this resistance. And a lot of times people are like, oh, resistance, they'll start judging themselves or be like, this isn't for me. And it's starting to learn to love the resistance because when you go to the gym, you need resistance to get stronger, right? You need the weight, you need the resistance. It's the same with personal growth. But as you do it more and more, you start to break through. And it's not, it's not a like, let's break the ice and we're free. It's like a blanket, and you're unraveling this blanket, one little thread. That's what inner work is. It doesn't actually ever stop. It's a constant work in progress, it's a constant, what am I doing to better myself? How am I growing? Where can I dismantle beliefs and my limiting beliefs that are not true, that I believe so wholeheartedly are true, but they're not. And you start to discern what's the story and what's fact. Okay, fact. I don't have any money in my bank account. Okay, that's a fact. I'm looking at it, there's nothing there. But the story of why you have no money in your bank account. Are you gonna believe that story? Are you gonna start blaming everybody else why you don't have any money? Are you blaming society? Are you blaming your friends? Are you blaming your family? Are you blaming your husband for spending the last penny you guys had? No. It's where in myself does it feel more comfortable to have no money in my bank account because a lot of people they want to be the victim. Yes, there's power for them in being the victim. It's like like um this woman, she's like on food stamps, and she had an opportunity to to get a decent job. But if she got that job, then she wouldn't get her food stamps, and that really scared her because it's like she felt like um like that was being taken away from her. So now she's never gonna get a job more than 20k a year, whatever it is. I don't, I don't know what it is to be on food stamps, but she already put herself in a position where she's too afraid to lose the food stamps because it felt like she would net worse if she made more money. So when you believe that story, you're never gonna shift, you're gonna stay there, you're gonna stay there because you you really believe. I remember when I left my my um when I sold my business, a lot of stuff I put, I put gas on the business card. And now I couldn't put gas on the business card anymore. And I was like, oh my god, like I personally have to pay for gas. And it's like shakes you up, you know, and it's like, but you miss the opportunity. It's like, oh well, if I make this much money, then I have to pay this much in taxes. Yeah, or now if I'm on my own, I have to pay my own health insurance. So you start like being like, oh, well, I don't believe in myself enough to make more than what I was doing before because all of this stuff was taken care of, but now I have to do it myself, and that is really scary. But the way you become more confident in what you're doing is by being brave and doing it over and over and over again, and a lot of times we're so struck by fear because fear almost seems easier than fear seems more comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

It's easier to live in our heads because we can sit there and like create these false situations, blah blah blah. But then when we actually do it, usually turns out great, and then we have to face the fact that we might have wasted time just sitting there, you know, just sitting there in fear and and everything. Um there isn't a there's a question I want to ask. I feel like this is very like Pinterest wordy. Um, people always say, like, well, if you want to be a millionaire, then act like a millionaire. And that's something that we talked about that day. Because I remember I was getting frustrated by that. I was like, I mean, okay, and you have you had a really good answer, but I'll let you say, but um it's like, okay, well, obviously, if I want to be a millionaire, then I'll just like go spend all this money and blah blah blah blah. But like I don't have the money, so how can I act like a millionaire? What do they what do they really mean here? Do they mean go rent a Ferrari or like because I feel like what people do is they just fill their Pinterest board with like rich, wealthy things, but they feel like that's not scratching the surface. Like, what does that mean? Like people say, if you want to be a millionaire, then act like one.

SPEAKER_00 38:24

Yeah, so there's this concept called be do have, and a lot of people have it backwards. They say, Well, when I have it, then I'll do it, and then I'll be confident, or then I'll be rich, whatever it is. They they have it backwards. So act like a millionaire means if a million dollars hit your bank tomorrow, what how would you dress? How would you carry yourself? What kind of conversations would you be having? And what I told you is I'm not saying like go go out to Chanel and go buy yourself a new bag because you want to be smart, like don't be stupid, no offense. But like I think your friend was saying, I just are I don't know if it was you, I just want to be able to tip waiters 50%. Like being on okay, yeah. If I want, if I want to, I just want to be able to like go to a restaurant and tip 50%. So I'm like, okay, so go somewhere like Starbucks or a coffee shop and tip 50%. And you're gonna start showing the universe of who you be as somebody who already has this kind of money. That's what it means. It but you're staying it within your means. Like, well, I want to take my family on vacation. Okay, well, if I have money, I'll take them on vacation. Well, you know what? Go take your kid to a park, you know, and and on your mom and pay for your mom, you know, it's and they're just these little bite-sized versions of the bigger thing. It's like it's like people who say, Well, I'll donate to charity once I make money. But if you don't donate what you have now, you're not gonna donate when you have money.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

Yeah, because money is just it exacerbates who we are now. So if you if you're greedy now, you're gonna be greedy then.

SPEAKER_00 40:24

Money is just an amplifier, that's all it is. So who it's who are you being now? What kind of conversations are you having? If you're a multimillionaire, who are you hanging out with? Are you hanging out with people who limit your dreams and tell you you're not good enough and tell you like you don't know what you're doing? Or are you gonna hang around people who are gonna keep elevating you and argue for your dreams and want you to succeed and want you to keep growing? So that's what I start doing. I started hanging out with people who are further along than me. And how do you hang out with people that are further along with you? You go to events, you get in rooms. A lot of times, yeah, you have to pay. Yeah, you have to pay to play. I it it is true at some levels, but it's building relationships because you never know the person that you're talking to at the grocery store could know the person who knows the person who knows the person that's gonna change your life. So it's constantly acting as if you're already there. Not in the way you spend money, yeah. Yes, but in the way you hold yourself, in the way you dress. You don't you can go to Target and buy nice clothes and look part look the part and just have like one nice bag. Like you don't, you don't need to have, you know, Neiman Marcus clothes wearing every single day, right? Like I bought this little shirt out of boutique. You know, you can buy things that was on sale, like it was like 70% off. You know, it's just like how are you holding yourself? What kind of conversations are you having, and what kind of questions are you asking? Because the better the questions, the better quality of life that you will have. And that is how you act like a millionaire.

SPEAKER_01 42:18

I that's the best answer I've heard for that, because that's not usually what you hear. And I feel like hopefully some that really helped someone. Um, it's so funny. So that's something I've been practicing. Um past like a few months. I've just been like, okay, like I need to start training my brain that a certain number is comfortable for me. So I want to be making 20, maybe even 50k months. So I'm like, okay, like I have to start training my brain that that's not a scary number. For example, I said to my family, I want to have a private chef. Like, that's a goal of mine. And they laughed at me. Not only do they laugh at me, I heard them talking shit that night when I was out of the room. They said, if Marie hires a private chef, that's the day the world will turn backwards. And that hurt at first, and then I journaled about why they said that when they said it. And I think that's what's gonna happen to a couple people who are going to start stretching their dreams and stretching their identity, is the people around them don't remember them like that. They remember the broke Marie who lived in the hood in LA. They got their house broken into. They don't rem and now the same girl is saying she wants a private chef, so there's they're trying to keep me in a box. That's right. And and it's gonna be hard, I think, when you start to say, try to change your identity. The people who've seen you in X way are gonna try to keep you in that box. And that's why it's very important, like what you're saying. Go pay to play and move rooms. And also, I confronted them. I confronted them, and I was like my uncle who said it. And I was like, Why did you say that? And he first he tried to dismiss it. I didn't say that. I was like, Why did you say that? And he's like, Well, it's just kind of ridiculous, you know, a private chef. And I was like, hmm. Ridiculous to that I'm gonna make the money to pay for that, or that you can hire a private chef, like that you can pay for that. And he was like, I mean, that's just like so much money. I just I don't know how you would pay for that. And I realized it was his projection. He works in corporate, he's maxed out of whatever money he makes. So that's crazy. And I told him we realized to together that it was a projection from him. I say that story because I'm I I just feel like when you start to shift your identity, especially that whole like act like a millionaire and starting to like think differently to make sure those numbers feel more comfortable. You there's some people will react and they're gonna try to keep you boxed in.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

Well, they're gonna try to renegotiate your standards, and that's their own limitations. And so it's your job. So this is the overachiever in me, and I don't necessarily recommend this if you're an overachiever because like buying into the same thing. But my family, same, they don't think I can do it without because I had a family business before. They don't think I can do it without them. Watch me. Wanna bet? And that's the proving energy that we don't want. Yeah, but yeah, you know, do as I say, not as I do.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Yeah, I can already feel like the adrenaline from that. Cause like I that is the first instinct of like, well, fucking watch me. But then now. Who are you doing it for? Right.

SPEAKER_00 45:38

And so you have to watch it. You have to watch it. But sometimes it's serving you. Right. Because it's like, okay, well, now I have these people who don't believe in me. So now I need to extra believe in myself to prove it to not only them, but to myself that I can do it. And a lot of people right now, including myself, are chasing significance. And then it's this real realization that significance actually is a byproduct of when you pour into others, when you pour into service, because then your energy becomes contagious, then you become magnetic, then people are drawn to you. And then people are like, How do I work with you? versus come by my thing. Right? Come by my thing. I did, I did my first keynote um the other day, and I lightly invited people to my event that I'm having in October in Fort Lauderdale. I didn't really pitch it. I just was like, hey, like if you are liking this, like I want to invite you to keep going with live iconic. I had so many people come up to me wanting the details of this event, and I didn't really sell it. I yes, I told them that that was you have to invite people into your world, but it wasn't a Russell Brunson like stat pitch, you know, where it's like, here's what you get over and over. And so for me, like I think how do we make money? We make money by doing sales, right? We're always selling ourselves in some sort of way, whether it's a service, whether it's being a friend with somebody, we're or getting in line, talking to we're always kind of selling ourselves, even though it's unconscious, is what it is. And so it's I'm all about, and this is what I help my clients with, is attraction marketing. It's like where you're not twisting people's arms to come be with you and come work with you. It's I want what you have. And so you start building this aura and this energetics of how do I just be near you? And why is it when every time I'm near you, really good things happen to me? I get that a lot. Like, like a lot. Anytime I'm near any of my clients, they're like, oh my God, like I just got two new buyers, or oh my god, like clients come to me when I'm just like with you because there's this energetics are contagious, energy is contagious, and when you start losing the performance, and and and and that's what happened to me in the speech. I one of our really good friends passed away unexpectedly, and then I had to give a speech, and I had this whole speech prepared, and I was like, you know what? Like, I don't feel comfortable doing the speech, I'm gonna just riff my first keynote too. And I'm like, I'm just gonna rip because it just doesn't feel right to do the other one. And my intention of that keynote was it's not about me, it's about the audience. How can I serve the audience? Whether they like it or not, like it's not about my ego. And I really put that intention in, and I got so much feedback of like how much they got from that talk, but then I watched it back and I was like cringing. But I made it about them, I didn't make it about me, and that's why it landed so well. Now, somebody who probably your audience also criticizes themselves to death. Um, I did that too. You know, I'm human, I I I do it too. The inner critic gets really freaking loud, and you have to the same thing, you have to counter it. You have to get curious. Like, why is this inner critic so loud? What is so cringe about this? And why, and who cares if it's cringe? Nobody cares. Like, this is what I learned a long time ago. Nobody cares about you, they care about themselves. Like when it comes to like what you're saying in in the coaching industry or in in entrepreneurship, like if you mess up, nobody cares. Yeah, nobody cares. They actually probably will like you better because you messed up.

SPEAKER_01 50:17

Yeah, yeah. Also, congrats on your keynote, by the way. Oh, thank you. That's a big deal. That's a big deal. Um, especially because I just heard you speak. Um, okay. Well, I say let's roll into cocktail hour. I would love for you to maybe end on a story of like someone you've worked with that maybe like their journey, a transformation, and maybe talk about yeah, like your coaching program and how people can, yeah, again, like the invited to your world, but I would definitely want people to hear like maybe a transformation you had with someone before we go to cocktail hour.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

Yeah, I want to also share. Um, can I share about my event? Yes, yeah, share about the event. Yes. Okay. So Live Iconic Live is coming to Fort Lauderdale October 19th through the 22nd. It is also my birthday. So I am throwing myself one hell of a party that you are all invited to. And those tickets are on my Instagram in my bio, and it's Live Iconic Live. And I it's just identity recalibration. It's going inward and it's coming out. We have a transformation tunnel. So you're coming in one version of you, you're leaving another version of you. It's great gaps be themed. Oh my god. Get to be this full expression of who you are, and you get to dress up and be the magical human that you are. So that is my event. I'm super psyched about it. It is my first conference, but I'm putting blood, sweat, tears, heart, soul, all of it into it. And I cannot wait to see the magic that happens with that. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:54

That's epic. Like, that's epic. Also, I've seen already seen you do speeches at a conference. You actually held like a um breath work session and brought some women to tears. Um, you brought me to tears. These are all good tears, by the way. But like, just your work is extremely powerful. So expect to come actually transformed. That's what I would say with your event. Like if it's a whole event that you created, like it's you're gonna be transformed.

SPEAKER_00 52:17

It's gonna be, yeah, it's next level. And yeah, just like a quick story. Um, one of my most recent clients, she she was stuck, she didn't know if she should exit her business or not. Because a lot of the women that I work with are, you know, is helping them have aligned businesses and really like feeling alive and aligned with their values of what they're doing in their in with their magic in the world. And so my client, she was having a really hard time if she should exit. And and I think when you make a pro and con list, it actually inhibits you from making a decision versus coming back home to yourself and trusting you and having that self-trust that you're gonna, that you already know what you're supposed to do. And that's what I helped her with. I didn't tell her what to do, I didn't tell her to exit or not exit, but I asked her powerful questions and we went into her body because your body is like your subconscious mind, it's projecting your reality. So, what you feel in your body first is what's gonna project into your reality. So if you're always anxious, you're gonna your reality is gonna show you more anxiety. So with her, it was we went inward and she got the answer that she needed that she was so stuck on just in one session that we did. We went so inward and she found the answer on her own, and she felt really solid in it. So I really help women trust themselves. I know it doesn't sound like that sexy, you know, it's not like I'm gonna help you make a million dollars. It's it's but yes, you're gonna trust yourself so much that you can make a million dollars, that you can have a thriving business and a thriving family and thriving relationships, but it starts with yourself. And that's what I help, I help with. And you know, a lot of women don't even realize that's the problem, but the problem is usually you in your own way.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

I just can't emphasize enough how important shadow work is. Like you can learn all the social growth media growth strategies and all the it just doesn't do shit if your insides are blocking you. If you're blocked, like, and I feel like if you don't know this until you've been unblocked, and then you saw like you just how you quantum leap in in so many ways. And honestly, most of the crowd crowd honestly understands this because they're all coaches listening to it. So this is what they do for others. But I feel like um, I'm really proud of my friend. She's new, she's newer into business. Her first hire was a money mindset coach, and I was like, You're fucking smart. You know that if you unblock yourself, you're gonna do these massive leaps while everyone else is still turning wheels. So it makes sense why with your client. And I I love that you said not to do a pros and cons list because that keeps you stuck in that decision, you know? You keep going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and then you you went inward.

SPEAKER_00 55:17

You know, you know, here's a really fun tool that your your audience can take with them. I do this with my clients, yeah, is put like post-it notes on the floor and write like on each post-it note, one, two, three, like all the way to 10. And then when you're trying to make when you're stuck between a decision, be like, okay, if I say yes, does this feel what number does this feel like on this rating scale? And just stand on it. And you can just speak from this decision. Like, okay, I'm gonna exit my company. All right, this feels like a three. So I'm gonna stand literally physically stand on the three, and I'm gonna speak from the version of myself that exits the company. And then I'm gonna be like, okay, I'm gonna stay with my company and I'm gonna keep building my company and whatever. That feels like maybe a seven, but just because you're standing on a seven doesn't necessarily mean that that's your answer. Now you dialogue with the seven and the three versus the pros and cons, because then you can start asking questions. This is where like like asking yourself powerful questions will literally change the quality of your life. So it's be like, okay, okay, seven, I'm staying in my business, but now I think I have to grind harder and hustle harder and and not have as much time with my kids. And then you do what we talked about before. Okay, well, let's find proof where I don't have to do that. And you get to have this dialogue. And this is I actually like help facilitate this with my clients because sometimes on your own it's a little like you're like, what is this? But when somebody's like holding space for you in it to allow whatever is coming up without any kind of judgment, it it is magical, like especially for decision making. It's just a really cool tool to help to help navigate, you know, if you're if you're feeling indecisive about something.

SPEAKER_01 57:29

Oh my god, I'm always indecisive. What I do if I like just only have myself to help me is like something called bubble journaling. So I'll let's say it's that person. Do I leave my job? So I'll write that at the top. Do I leave my job? And then I draw an arrow and I ask myself a question that's by my therapist. Well, why do you want to leave your job? And then I'll do another arrow because I hate my boss. Okay, how does your boss make you feel? And I start to ask, and I every after every question is a answer, and after every answer is a question, and then by the end of it, you'll find the root. But the coolest part is you can visually see your thought process, and they and then they can start to separate. You might have multiple answers to each question, and then they start to separate into their own bubbles, and that's what I that's how I journal. That's how I love it.

SPEAKER_00 58:16

I haven't heard that before, but that's really powerful.

SPEAKER_01 58:18

I'm gonna I I just made it up because I was like, I can't sit there and write out my decision, I need to visually see it. And also with coaching, I figured out like what a coach is, what are coaches usually asking me? So I was like, why don't I just ask myself these questions? But visually, so that's another tactic for yourself. Um, easy. I call it bubble journaling, but I just made it up. But okay, let's go into cocktail hour. Again, everything will be in the show notes, her event. And this is 2026. If you're listening, this is October.

SPEAKER_00 58:45

Oh, yes, 2026.

SPEAKER_01 58:46

Yeah, it's like years later, they're like trying to look for it. But this is 2026, it's in October. And I'll have everything in the show notes, but yeah, let's go into cocktail hour. And if you have to go, guys, totally okay. But if you're here for cocktail hour, we can just yat more. That's my favorite part. Um, yeah. Okay, I feel like I do have a question for you for your first cocktail hour question. Um, what's your non-negotiable in your week as a CEO?

SPEAKER_00 59:10

My non-negotiable is I always have what's called PNP time in my kid. Okay. So it's play no phones. And this could be with anybody, it doesn't have with your kid, but it means you have playtime with no technology. So you put your phone away, you have full presence with whoever that person is. It could, it could be with yourself too. But like no scrolling social, no checking emails, like you're literally like you can even put a timer on it. And if 15 minutes feels like a stretch, then do five minutes. But 15 minutes every day of just focused play time or focused time with a person, and that and that is enough. Like sometimes we think it's like not that much, but it's enough. There's actually like research done on it. Don't ask me to quote that research. I don't know where it came from, but there is research that 15 minutes of focused time with somebody is all somebody needs to feel like connected.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:11

Oh, 100%. I've also just noticed, like, when I'm really, really happy, I I can't tell you where my phone is. Like this weekend, we went to like New Hampshire and it was just on the most beautiful snow globe ass weekend. Like it was like we're tubing, we were ice skating, like we were in the woods, and there was a point where like I didn't know it, but I had literally thrown my phone out of my hand and it was about to go down a grate, like it was gonna go into the sewer system. Like, that's how much I just was like, get it away from me. Like, I subconsciously had just yeeted my phone away from me. Like, I when I'm having fun, like I don't even know where it is. And then I can tell when I'm not happy in life is when I have my phone glued to me. Like, that's my telltale sign that like I'm not okay mentally. Um, like the past few months I've been glued to my phone, and I'm like, this is not, I know I'm not happy right now. Because when I'm happy, I can't I can't tell you where it is. Like it literally might not be, I might have lost it.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:08

You know, it's so true. I didn't even like connect those dots until you said that, but it's so true. Like when I was at the event, I didn't pick up my phone one time, thank God they have like content people there because I just no, I didn't know where my phone is. Like when I'm when I'm in it, when I'm focused with my kid, like I my I don't know where my phone is. You're so right. It's like when you're happy, you're not on your phone. So it's such a good testament of like, okay, wait, I'm on my phone so much. How can I find joy like right now so that I don't have to be on my phone? Because like in this conversation, like I haven't looked on my phone one time, you know. And I and I I will give you full presence, but sometimes you'll see it like blinking or whatever, notifying you with stuff. Not once have I been distracted because I feel so connected. That's so for me, like connection is such a huge value. So when I feel that, like, like you said happy, mine is like connected. When I feel connected, it's like I don't need any of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:15

Where is it? Literally, where's the phone? You know, yeah. I feel like um my non-negotiable and is I have to move my body. Like I was thinking about that today because I was doing pilates and I was like, honestly, like my ideal day is like working out all day. Like I'm like going to tennis and then going to platties and I'm going to boot camp and then I'm swimming. Like, I feel like that's my, but obviously we have to work. So I can't I can't do that right now. But um, that's my non- my personal non-go, non-negotiable, even if it's like an insanely busy day, like just one of those days where like you look up and it's already 3 p.m. and you're like, what happened? I make sure like I go outside and I go on a walk.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:52

Like or a stretch. Like I have in my community cocktails and clothes. We have a stretch session today where we're just gonna stretch for 20 minutes and then get back to work. Cause like I that's my I have to move my body, like yeah, I can feel the energies like stagnant, and it comes out in like all different kinds of ways. So that's my that's my non-negotiable.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:10

I love it. And like another really good thing, just even if that's not somebody's non-negotiable, is just shake. Yeah, like it just will like move energy around, like you know, animals after they get in a fight, they shake that's because that's how they release all the they don't have trauma, like they just literally shake it off.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:30

Wait, that's so true. Yeah, yeah, it because otherwise the energy will sit inside and fester. Yeah, like also wait a testament to blocks. I just remembered this. I for years I couldn't lose weight, and I did I did everything. I was even drinking straight up apple cider vinegar, like just straight up vinegar, fucked up. Um then I learned about this book called Intuitive Eating, and a lot of it's a workbook, it's a journaling workbook about blocks, like so many blocks you don't realize. I didn't change, I didn't change much. I really just did this journal and I lost 60 pounds. Because I was yeah, I unblocked, I unblocked the route, and my body could finally relax. And so the cortisol left my body. Like everything, everything just kind of so if anyone's out there like, oh, what did you realize?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:26

What was your route?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:28

It's been a long, it's been a long time, but I think it came down to at the beginning of the book, it tells you like the the seven types of eating. Um, I was a board eater. Board eater, that for sure. Um was one of the just the the first little symptoms for me, but it all came down to in the end, it came down to kind of what we talked about in our our call, like definitely self-love, issues with men or boys, like childhood stuff. Um comparison.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:00

Holy crap, that's a theme in my life. Comparison. Always, always, always. If if if I'm having a problem, it's probably because I'm comparing myself to someone. Um, so but once it took a I did like the first three months was like just the beginning of the book, and then I took the rest of the six months, and I mean it was insane. Like I it just fell off. So that if you want to talk about blocks, man, it literally can you can literally lose weight to like the weight on your body because your body's holding on to stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of it too is like I had a client that wasn't losing weight because she was afraid just coming back to the weight loss because she was afraid that if she lost weight, she would cheat on her husband. Whoa. Deep, right? So sometimes it has nothing to do with it's in her. It's like yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:54

That's just the coolest part was when you find that thought and you're like, wait, what? Like, I was working with um my coach Julia, and we figured out uh I'm inhibiting my success because I don't want uh attention because attention when I was a kid was just being straight up bullied, like and and so then I was like so now I'm getting attention with my business because my fucking branding is so good. Shout out to my brand designer. I'm getting a lot of attention, and a lot of people are are uh you know, wanting my attention. Anyways, I it's like I'm starting to resist it, and it's because that means all eyes are on me. When I was a kid, I was I was bullied most like till 12th grade. That's eleven till 11th grade, so like 11 straight years of just being bullied. So it's like that's a long time, you know, to like unfur the unfurlow those stories you're talking about, the stories.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:47

So yeah, and a lot of a lot of times once you like realize it too, what really helps dismantle that association is reparenting yourself. It's is what did you need in your 12-year-old self? This happened when you started when you were 12.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:07

Oh no, like no, this happened for like 11 grades, so 11 years.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:13

It's like first grade, yeah. Okay, yeah. And so it's like you go back to that moment, that that picture in your mind of that one moment of when it started, and that's where you start nurturing yourself. This is inner child work, but like you come back to yourself, and as a higher version of yourself or the version of you now, you get to start. Nurturing that younger version of you. And as you start doing that, you realize you have everything that you need from inside. And we stop, yeah, it's good. Like I had a I did gymnastics for many years, and I had a coach that made me wear a belt around my stomach because it stuck out. And so I created the story that I have an ugly stomach, I hate my stomach. It's still a thing for me, but working, right? But it's like once you recognize it, it's like, okay, well, what did you need to hear from the bully? What did you need to hear from the bully at that age point? Because then you start feeling nurtured and you'll start dismantling that. Oh, well, if I get attention, that means I'm going to be bullied, or that means I'm not good enough. Right. That's really what it comes down to. Cause when you're bullied, you don't feel good enough and you don't feel worthy. So now you're attaching attention to your worthiness, but in the negative way. And so it's like we start reparenting ourselves and we start nurturing ourselves and giving ourselves love. It's going to start building that trust. That wait a minute. And you can use that same tool of like, where can where have I gotten attention where it was positive?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:56

Oh, yeah. Again, again, that part, that's the part always forget, like find this, find the new story, you know?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:03

That's so good. Oh god, I come up with this all day. Okay, my last question to you will end on is what is your current life motto right now?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:11

Up your peer group. That's my motto. Surround yourself with people further along than you. And that they're gonna help stretch you, grow you, surround yourself with people who argue it for your dreams. Um, you are like the quality of your life is by the people you surround yourself with. So that's like my whole movement is up your peer group. And that's why I'm doing this event. Because my guarantee is that you you leave with a mentor, a client, or a new friend. And if and if you don't, then I'll buy you a ridiculous bouquet flowers because I know for a fact you will meet somebody that will change your life in some capacity when you're there. Like that is my tangible outcome. I can't guarantee a result, I can't guarantee anything else. But yeah, my motto is up your up your peer group and don't quit. Don't quit. Like stay in motion, like stay committed. You can quit. I quit. Like sometimes things don't make sense, but like but stay committed to what to create the trust in yourself. Even if you're you were going 200 miles an hour, now you have to go two miles an hour, just stay in the momentum of the commitment, in the movement of commitment, and your life will change. If just really quick, I know I'm going on a tangent, but like Green Gene Graziazzi shared the story where if you have a tractor that goes out a mile every day and comes back, it's gonna be in the same place every single day, every day, right? But if you shift that that tractor one millimeter and it goes out a mile, it's gonna be in a very different place than it was when it started. One millimeter, it's just tiny micro shifts, make a micro shift every single day, whatever it is. It doesn't have to be it could be as simple as giving yourself a hug, like just some sort of micro shift that's moving the needle for your dreams.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:14

Yeah, beautiful. That's yeah, I agree. It's like again, you can listen to all the podcasts you want, but I bet you the secret sauce is a person you haven't met yet. And I I'm yeah, I feel like I it's hard because I'm traveling a lot this year, but I want to go and be in more rooms where people say numbers or they say goals where I'm like, oh, I never thought of that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:40

Like I'm in rooms that where they talk about million dollar months, like like like people go for 10k months, they talk million-dollar months, and you're and that's how you stretch because they're doing it. Why can't you?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:56

Be around people who talk about private chefs. That's my lesson.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:00

Oh, speaking of my event, private yacht, private jet. There's like uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:05

It's only a boat. You got me. I'm a big boat person, private yacht.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:10

Yeah, VIP. VIP gets um a private speakeasy dinner with me. Wow, and they get um access to the private yacht, and it's only for 10 people, and I have six spots left for the private yacht.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:25

So wow, and that room is powerful. Powerful.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:30

Yeah, you should come, you should be on that yacht.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:33

I am going to leave Karen's event information in the show notes because this event is looks like it's just not like your average event. And she's right, if you want to be making bigger moves and better money, you need to surround yourself with people who are already making that money. That's some of the things I'm gonna be working on this year is like, how do I get in the rooms with people who are hitting the goals I want to hit? And that does mean you have to pay to play. So I loved this conversation. I actually had a one-on-one session with Karen, and we went in talking about money, and I left completely transformed on something else in my life. I actually went in some sort of like interesting meditative state, like I had like a visual, very intense visual meditation with her. Yeah, she's really powerful, guys. Um, I really recommend reaching out to her if you want a one-on-one sesh or to work with her for longer term or even just to learn more about the event. She has a very, very powerful energy and she she really gets how to get into your subconscious. Um, that like session I had with her really broke through things that have never been broken through. So, again, she's quite powerful. I would get in her world in any way, even if it's in this most simplest way. Follow her on threads, follow her on Instagram. Everything will be in the show notes. And yeah. Okay. Well, I just got back from my vacation in France with my friends, and I highly recommend getting your business besties together and going on a trip. It doesn't have to be so dramatic as going abroad. Can you go to the lake this weekend? Can you go run out Airbnb in your local town and get your business besties together? Because that also was magical. I'm still running off a high of like some of my clients and some of my business besties all going to France together, going to Paris, going to south of France, and just like cutting up and bonding, and then also just like building each other's businesses while eating a croissant and having our morning espresso. God, it was so good. And now I'm here in Lisbon for two months and I'm gonna network like fucking crazy because this place is like an entrepreneurial hub, if you didn't know, and I'm gonna take advantage of it. So, okay, next week we have our business lessons of April, which will be really interesting considering I took half the month off. I will see y'all next week and don't forget, you're a bad bitch. I'll see y'all next time.