The New Life Podcast
The New Life Podcast is hosted by Pastors Devon Patton and Luke Evans. Two pastors. One decade apart. Both Pastor's kids who grew up together and now serve side by side - one as a youth pastor, the other an associate pastor. Each episode they dig into Scripture, share real ministry experiences, and teach to help others grow in their daily walk with God.
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Fruit of the Spirit: Joy (Ep. 20)
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In this episode, Pastors Luke Evans and Devon Patton continue in this series on the Fruit of the Spirit as they talk about joy, and the difference between the joy of the Lord as opposed to some of the other things the world may provide.
What's up? And welcome back to the New Life Podcast. New Life Podcast. We're going strong. This is episode 19. Who knows? 37. We're almost at episode 20. I think this is. This is not 19. This is 20. No, this is 19, 19, 19. Yeah, that's what we've been doing this 19 times. 19 weeks in a row, we've done a podcast without missing. That's consistent. We're here. We're ready to go. We're consistent so people can make sure every Monday. Every Monday morning that they're locked in. And then starting their week. It's a great way to start the week. You said you have a shout-out. You have some other people, not just at the beginning of the week, that are watching us, but cool, cool things. Huge, big, huge shout out. Stone Hill baseball team. My guys at Stone Hill. They've been watching us. They got a little Bible study. My guy Dylan running a little Bible study up there at Stonehill. Oh, that's cool. And they watch us as part of it. So there's probably not any hope for those guys, but we're glad that you're watching. No, I'm just kidding. We're glad that you're watching. Go, Stonehill. That's awesome. We got we got a baseball. Yeah, dude. That's like the coolest thing ever. That is cool. If you said, hey Luke, would you rather have a group of doctors or a college baseball team watching you? I'm picking baseball team 10 out of 10 times. I'm going with fast food employees. I think that would be the coolest. Secret option number three. Secret option three. I'm just kidding. No, that is cool. So thank you guys. Thanks for tuning in week after week. But also thanks for reading your Bible. Thanks for starting a Bible study. Yes. That's the coolest thing. We we love when we hear about students or young adults or anybody really who want to start a Bible study with their friends. Not an easy thing to be a college young man that plays baseball trying to serve the Lord. And so you need brothers. Well, college athletes in general. It's like you're just yeah, it's like your schedule is crazy. That's that becomes your life. So if you guys can incorporate your faith into that, it's it's just gonna make you a better team. And iron sharpens iron. It really will make a better team. Conference champs this year. I can't wait to hear it. Maybe you have to get up for a game. Where is that? In Massachusetts. Oh, dude. Hey, if you guys are listening, we're coming up for a game. We'd like to sit in the dugout. Can we sit in the dugout? Yeah, can we go? Can I put on the mascot costume? I will wear eye black. I will, I'll all smear it. Can I do the book for the game? Dude. I'm in. We should go. That would be. We're in. We're in. We're coming. We're going. All four of us. All four of us. All four are here today. Spencer, you're in? He's in. He's in. He's nodding his head right now. We love it. We're in. Spence is in. Alright. Today, we got to get Spence and Mike. Spence, we'll get you one for next time. Um, but we got our fun facts to start the day.
SPEAKER_00These guys actually participated this week, which is awesome.
SPEAKER_02Well, because he let us know now that we've had time in advance. Last time you have to. I remind I reminded Mateo today. Yeah, he didn't even remember. I remembered. No. Oops. Whoops. Whoops. Whoops. Um, so mine today to start us out. I thought about some different things, and I'd heard this one that Connecticut has some like weird laws that like you think they're they're weird. No, not in all right. We're not getting into the politics right now.
SPEAKER_00You think they got some weird laws? Let me go into it. No.
SPEAKER_02Okay, go ahead. So one of them in the 1940s, and this is just a myth. Like, they don't know if this is actual law, but there were some vendors that were trying to sell pickles. And Mateo's favorite food, pickles. He loves them. He loves them so much. Yesterday we were eating lunch in the sandwich that he had had pickles on it before. And he was like, it was Adam. But we got lunch, and he was like, Oh man, I should have told them no pickles. I was like, You took them off. He was like, Yeah, but the pickle juice is stinking there.
SPEAKER_01You can see it too.
SPEAKER_02It's like yellow imprinted. Also, we should address as well before we get into our fun facts that we didn't plan for the camo hat, the camo hoodie, the camo hoodie. Oh, we're all going hunting. Hopefully, you can even see us on the on the camera. My head, it's just my my eyebrows. My face, I just look like a floating head. Oh, dude, that's great. Okay, so like I was like, So the pickles, the pickles, and they were trying to sell these pickles, and so it said that they brought in like what is it, the FDA? Yeah, Food and Drug Administration. So they brought them in to do a test on these pickles, and it was the way that they would test to see if it was a like it was okay, it was a real pickle, or it wasn't going bad, was it had to bounce. So like if it's a real pickle, it has to bounce. And so they would throw them on the floor from like a foot up, and if it bounced, it was a real pickle. If it's smushed, it wasn't a real pickle, or it wasn't able to be spoiled. What else would it be if it's one of the that's one of those unreal, it's just it would be spoiled, or it's it's something else. You know what I mean? It's not good, like it's not a pickle you should be selling. And so that was the whole thing. It was like it's now people believe it's this Connecticut law is like, well, if in Connecticut, if that pickle smushes on the ground, when you drop it, it's that's not a pickle. You shouldn't be eating that. It's it's bad. When was this? What are we talking about? In the 1940s.
SPEAKER_01No wonder Connecticut is so messed up. It's pretty recent. Like, I thought that would have been a while. I mean, it's what, 80 years ago?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. But still, yeah, throwing pickles. That's super recent. 80 years? No, he was saying it's recent.
SPEAKER_00Of all the time that's ever passed? 1603, they're throwing pickles. I don't think they had pickles back then.
SPEAKER_02Nah, they don't know what that is. They thought, let's take this cucumber and put it in liquid and see what it tastes like. What an awful idea. What a dude. Last night, do you like those bagged ones? Have you had those little bites? Nah, I don't. Oh, Harper loves those. Yeah, they're so good. Last night I got the it's like a sweet and sour one, dude. Or a sweet and sweet and sour, sweet and spicy, I mean. So it's so good. I like the little uh the little, what is that? Gurnish girl, what do they call them? Gherkin, the little grillos? Nah, forget it. Gherkin? They're on like the charcuterie boards. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're sweet.
SPEAKER_01Pickles have been around for a long time. When was the pickle in? When was the first pickle? So it says 4,000 years ago. This could be your fun fact.
SPEAKER_024,000 years ago?
SPEAKER_01It says Christopher Columbus rationed pickles to sailors to prevent scrivy. That was not 4,000 years ago. No, but it's just giving 4,000 years ago.
SPEAKER_00Christopher Columbus when he found the Ten Commandments. Christopher Columbus wandered out of the Garden of Eden and was like, hey guys, you guys want some pickles? I'm gonna take your land. Adam's just brining them in the Garden of Eden. Had more. I had more. That is crazy, dude.
SPEAKER_024,000 years ago.
SPEAKER_00Christopher you missed a zero. Are you sure it's gonna say 400? 4,000 years ago, pretty recent, if you think about it. In the grand scheme of things. In the 8 billion timeline marker, Queen Bond.
SPEAKER_01Queen Cleopatra ate them. She attributed her beauty and health to the diet of pickles. Dude, see. They're super good for you.
SPEAKER_02Now they give, you know, they they give the pickle juice out instead of Gatorade at sporting events for the cramps. Yeah. Oh, that makes sense. Like immediately rushes to the that I saw they do uh mustard packets too. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's what was remember those like secret spray bottles they use like at the World Cup and stuff when they come out. Maybe that's what's in there. Yeah. Did you ever seen the biofreeze? It's like you get a cramp or something. Yeah, yeah. The magic spray. But how does it go? Uh that's great. All right, that was my fact. See? Learn something like that. It's a great fun fact. I have the animal one. Ooh, I love animal ones. Tell us. Uh it's not really as long as yours. There's no story behind it, but you know what a wombat is? Yeah, of course. I know what you're gonna say, because some of them are. Yeah, but do you know why? So wombats poop cubes. Cubes. Yeah, it's a cube-shaped poop. But they poop cubes to mark their territory, and because it's a cube, it can't roll away. How about that? That's genius, dude. That is genius. Wombats, man. We've been sleeping them pooping cubes, dude. Like it's like Minecraft. They're playing Minecraft. That's exactly what it is.
SPEAKER_01Why do people not believe in God? Like with that kind of stuff existing. We could have said anything else, though. No, man.
SPEAKER_02What's it over you? I saw a wombat pooping and I was like, man. I saw a 4,000-year-old pickle and a wombat pooping, and then I said, He's got these real. The expansiveness of our solar system and how it all works. You know, when I was looking for my fun fact, though, speaking of 4,000 years old, do you know that honey never goes bad? And they have found honey in the pyramids that's 3,000 years old and still edible. That's crazy. That is crazy.
SPEAKER_01Speaking of really that's it's just it's crazy. It's huge. Aliens, but we wouldn't need to get into that. Like they're like each brand.
SPEAKER_02Transformers, right? Yeah, the transformers and aliens are with them. I think Optimus.
SPEAKER_01I've seen the movies. I've seen the movies. Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_02Cubed. Do you think the pyramids freak you out or what's in them? Because like the fact that there's like mummified bodies, and there's all these like there's some places in the pyramids in Egypt they have they've never even gone in because they're like booby trapped and stuff. Dude, you're just watching the Indiana Jones. No, I'm telling you, look it up. There's like secret rooms that they're always finding and stuff. Yeah. Also, there's the mummy, underrated, dude. Brandon Fraser. We went to the Peabody Museum a little while ago and they have an Egypt thing there. And just the artwork and stuff on the inside of these things, too, is insane how they were able to paint and the different things that they used for paint. But yeah. He's ancient tech. They had AI.
SPEAKER_01Dude, that's who built the pyramids. They recently found a 30-meter-long big void, they call it. Like they don't know what's down there. It's just a black hole to another dimension. We're getting into Marvel stuff now. It's crazy. Anyway. Yeah, like look how Dr.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like you walking through that. Nah. No. I'd do it. For enough money. How much money to walk through a tiny bit? Would you rather be an archaeologist or a paleontologist? Archaeologist. Archaeologists the same. Paleontologist is not real. Sorry, psycho. Yeah. Dinosaur bones are not real. Like we all know that, right? Would you stop? They could be putting anything together. They planted that. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. I watched a video with Sai the other day. They're like, we found one of the one bone of the onyx raptor, and they were able to construct the whole thing. How? It was just making stuff up. We found one jawbone of an onyx raptor. Is that the natural history museum or not real? No, that's not real. It's all it's all fake.
SPEAKER_01What's your fun fact, Mateo? Um so my landlord has a model. I can't, dude. We're only 10 minutes in the case.
SPEAKER_02He has uh he saw a cardinal in our backyard. Okay, sick.
SPEAKER_01I don't have to. Sorry, just the way you started. Alright, go ahead. He poops cubes too. Alright, go ahead. He has uh a Model T in the garage, which is the first one of the first cars. Yes.
SPEAKER_00So I was looking into uh that's crazy that he has one of those.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he like rebuilt it with his son and it's got like a like a huge like new edge. Like it's made out of Lego, but it's but I was I was my fun fact because I wanted to compare that like that being the first mass-produced car and like how fast it is, and like the fastest car now. So they when they came out, they were$825 for a car, which and for inflation is 30k today.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01Um it does 20 horsepower. The top speed is 40 miles per hour.
SPEAKER_02Actually, surprising.
SPEAKER_01I would have thought 40 cooking back then. I mean, you're talking about going from you're going from a horse and buggy to 40 miles an hour. That's the rush. Yeah, yeah. I saw I saw a video of someone starting up a Model T and it was like starting up like four lawnmowers at once. It was going from two horses to 20, so that's yeah. Um and the fastest uh car right now is a Chinese uh electric hypercar that you can buy for 30k. Um it's does or sorry, sorry, 300. Oh, that was 30,000 yen. Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um what's the I don't know what the exchange rate is.
SPEAKER_00What's the exchange rate for Stanley Mills? You don't want to earn stroop bucks?
SPEAKER_02All right, go ahead.
SPEAKER_01One one hundredth of a cent. All right, go, go, go, go. Uh 3,000 horsepower. How fast is that?
SPEAKER_003,000 horsepower. You just said 20 horsepower was 40. What's so this the top speed is 100,000, 17,000 miles per hour. Thing drives halfway across China and 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_01300 miles per hour is top record because it's four electric motors. It's measured in light speed.
SPEAKER_02Is that not aren't the like the F1 cars going faster than that? Or you're talking about like a street legal car? Street legal, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Sorry, sorry, sorry. That's I don't want to how fast is a plane going?
SPEAKER_02Of course, I don't think a car that goes 300 miles an hour is street legal. Yeah, I think so. Planes are going 500 miles an hour? Yeah, dude. What? Are you okay? How do you think you get to the from Connecticut to California? Because you don't have on the road. There's no lights. There's no traffic. You're not stopping anymore.
SPEAKER_00It's all traffic. Everything's traffic.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 550 to 600. 550.
SPEAKER_02I don't think a car that's in maybe in China it's different. There's no way a car that could go 300 miles an hour would be street legal in the United States. There's no way I think the car would have to rip apart. Like, I don't think it's surviving going.
SPEAKER_01Well, I looked, I because that was electric and I didn't really see him really. Yogi Yogi Yogi. Everybody watching, it's like this fast. I wonder how fast the sound effects are today. Yeah, I guess. You know what I mean? Like how fast that is. That's a light speed. You can't even see it. We need to slow the cameras down, probably.
SPEAKER_02Wait, how fast is that? You guys didn't even see me do it. How fast it was. I'm gonna blink really fast. How fast is that? How fast is the average blink? Put that in there, and then we'll compare that to the light speed of the car. 300 miles an hour. I don't even I don't think you'd be able to even hold the wheel like between 100 to 400 milliseconds. So do milliseconds to miles per hour when you stop. No one cares about this. Stop doing equations.
SPEAKER_01I am too. I love this though. Yeah. Alright, so I'm gonna look that up later. Yeah, definitely. But there's a faster car that's gas.
SPEAKER_02We'll report just putting it sick.
SPEAKER_01You're like, that's gas.
SPEAKER_02It's gas, bro. We gotta get going. Oh man, that's good. That was great. Yeah, this is great. I am I'm so joyful right now from all this last time. I'm so full of joy. What are we talking about today? What are we talking about today? Mateo? Uh nah. He forgot already. We're talking about joy. Unspeakable and full of an honor and joy. Do you? I think. I don't know. I shouldn't have said that. That's crazy. I think her name is Joy. She's I don't even know if we're related. She might be my cousin. Okay. Alright, so we're talking about you're still related if she's your cousin. Alright, moving on. So we're talking about joy. Once Mateo slides that safari screen over, we'll be able to see the uh the definition of joy. Feeling joy is a feeling of great happiness or pleasure, a source or cause of delight. A source of delight. I like that. Like you can tap into it. Like when I'm in a bad mood, I can actually pray and ask for joy to bring delight. Do you know somebody who's just full of joy? Yeah, we know the same person. That's what we know. We're probably thinking about who I'm thinking about. I am. Who are you thinking of? Pastor Chris. Pastor Chris, dude. Shout out PC. PC. Just always full of joy. I don't think I've ever seen him. I've never seen him grumpy. I can honestly say that. I've known him. He's worked with him for how long? 15, over 15 years. Yeah. Never seen him. Even when so when Pastor Chris first started working here, he was an intern and he lived in. We had a camper. A trailer, a camper, out parked right next to the office, and that's where Pastor Chris lived for that summer. In the camper interest. You didn't even know that, Mateo? No. Yeah, it was parked right out here. Him and another intern. They lived in there off. Because there used to be grass and stuff out there, and so they parked the camper and the trailer out there, and that's where they lived for the whole summer. Yeah. That's wild. Should put Spence Spence, we should put you in one of those, dude. You'd never be late.
SPEAKER_00Wouldn't need that new car. He'd be living in the camper.
SPEAKER_02He'd be all set. Yeah, we're gonna get him in there. Yeah, we'll get him. Um, yeah, so sure enough, he did that. But again, yeah, we've seen him just again, joy the Lord. He really does. It's it's encouraging, it's uplifting. It's a it's a it's a quality that I think gets overlooked sometimes because I think people just think to themselves, oh, you know, yeah, I got a good sense of humor, or oh yeah, I laugh a lot. But but like we just read, like joy is, and like we've been reading, these these fruits are these things that we can actually pray for that manifest out of us and begin to actually affect the way we live our lives. So it's not just like moments of joy. I can be joy-filled, I can be joyful all the time. And I think that's kind of the trait of this fruit that they're talking about in Galatians is the idea of man, I'm not just I don't just laugh every now and then, or I don't, but I'm actually walking around excited and delighted and happy with what my life is and what God is doing in it. Yeah, and the it says the opposites there are misery, which is just sounds so aggressive. That's like, yeah, like something like in Disney. It's like a witch is gonna put on misery for the rest of her life. Like, I don't know why that thing, but like hopelessness, and uh again, I'm just in my life, like I'm hopeless now. It's like no, it's like I I think me personally, you guys know me too. It's like there's a lot of times where I just look at things and I'm like, oh, there's no way that this is half that empty kind of guy sometimes, which again I'm working on it. But it's like that's what it is. It's like again, based on my circumstances, like if my source is not Christ, if my source is not that true joy, it's like my circumstances it'll fluctuate and and my level of of oh okay, this is gonna be great, or nah, this is never gonna work out. This is never gonna get better, this is this is gonna be a really tough situation, and we go into it hopeless because our mindset is not it's not rooted in Christ, in the joy of the Lord. It's not it's our happiness is based on our circumstances instead. So I just thought that that was interesting. Well, we see so many times in the Bible, right? The word being, you know, David talks about making a joyful noise unto the Lord, and God loves a cheerful, a joyful giver. Like we see all these things that are not, like I said, what what we what we quantify or think of as happiness or joyfulness, we think of, you know, laughter or watching something funny, and those are all great things, but that's not the type of joy that they're talking about. They're talking about this sustained because I think the world, you know, it says it up there, the world the world provides circumstantial pleasure, temporary pleasure. Which is not always like I was just about to ask you. I'm like, is there like is there something in your life that you would say is like not your kids, like something that's just like practical, like that you're like, this brings me joy? Like, is it playing basketball? Yeah, I oh I think people's hobbies bring them joy, like the things that they like to do. But I'm saying, like you personally, like, is there one that you could say right now? Yeah, I well yeah, playing basketball, obviously, like you know, or you know, now opening cards with my son or like and stuff like that, and just you know, there are there's plenty of things in life that give me joy, but it's you know, if we're talking about somebody like Pastor Chris, right? I'm sure there's a million things in his life that bring him joy, but when those aren't things when those things aren't happening, or when life's maybe not on the mountaintop, how do how do I still find a way to be joyful? Right? Like if I'm just saying that, you know, if I I messed my, you know, last Easter I rolled my ankle, you know, bait I sprained it really, really badly. And obviously, being at the age that I am, it took me a lot longer to recover. And so like I couldn't play basketball for that, you know, two months or whatever it was. And it's when that thing, and that's a goofy example, but when that thing that brings you joy gets taken away, can I still be a joyful person? Like we talked about, like Pastor Chris is never I hope he watches this, but he he's never in a bad mood. There's no way that nothing's ever happened to him that would have made him in a bad mood. Like something had to have happened that made him in a bad mood or made a normal person young kids, and it's like we have kids, and there's times where it's like, oh my goodness, I'm I'm going crazy right now. But it's like But he figures out a way to you know give off joy and show that joy. Well, that's what I wrote down is the difference between happiness and joy. It's like happiness is circumstantial, right? It's based on our circumstances, it's based on what's going on. But joy, true joy, is rooted in Christ. The joy that we're talking about, the joy that the Bible tells us about, it's rooted in Christ. So it doesn't matter what's going on. It doesn't matter if we're we're on the mountaintop or we're in the valley, like we still have joy. Like I was thinking about it. Um, this is a weird example, but when we went to Haiti a few years ago, your wife Summer went with us too. Um Um we went and we worked at this church in Haiti that was up on the top of this mountain in Zaranje, Haiti. And there's these people and there's kids and they have to go and they walk down this mountain, this huge hill. Um, and they would they would walk all the way down to go to school, to go to the market, to go get the things that they need, to to go to work, whatever it is. And then all of a sudden the bus would drop them back off, and they gotta, at the end of their day, they gotta walk all the way back up this hill. And one of the things and the examples that one of the the Haitian people there explained to us and talked to us was, and it's a perfect example of this true joy, is like one, they have the opportunity to go do those things. So, yes, they live in this small village, remote village in Zaranja, Haiti, but they have the opportunity to go to work, they have the opportunity to send their kids to a school, they have the opportunity to go to the market and have money to buy those things. But the example that they said is the way that they look at it is yeah, the view is awesome from the top of this mountain, but on the bottom of the mountain, if you look down and you see, like at the bottom of that, where you think it's a valley, you think it's stuff, but like, look at the vegetation, look what's growing there, look at the beauty from from what you can see. And and so it's like it doesn't matter again where they were on that walk on their way home. It's like they would look around, walking back up this mountain and say, Man, look at the trees that that are planted here that are plant that at the top of the mountain, there's no vegetation because the rainwater can't stay there. And it's just this beautiful example of that of it doesn't matter if it's up or if it's down, where my life is, if I'm rooted in joy, it's not based on my circumstances. That's happiness, it's joy that's rooted in the Lord. Well, right, like the Bible says, the joy of the Lord is my strength, right? So, like when I'm feeling down or depressed or anxious or angry or whatever it is, again, I can tap into that joy, and that joy that the Lord brings is my strength to help me face whatever it is that I'm facing or go through whatever it is that I'm going through. And it's being able like patience, like peace, like all these other things, being able to pray and ask the Lord, God, through your Holy Spirit, man, just give me joy. Yeah, just give me joy today. Help me to enjoy the day, enjoy the moment, enjoy who I'm around. Help me to see the glass, you know, half half full, like you know, have that attitude. In John chapter 15, this is the verse that I that I saw, and I agree with you, and it's what Jesus promises this this joy. It says that in fifth in chapter 15, he's talking about being the vine and we are the branches. Um, but verse 11, it says, These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full. And so I said, We're blessed to know today that that he promises his joy. He doesn't promise us, yeah, you'll have a better mood tomorrow. Or he doesn't promise us it's like, yeah, your circumstances will get no, but what does he promise? His joy. He's his joy I'll give you. If you're connected to me, if you're rooted in me, then you'll have my joy. And like, what better promise is that going into our circumstances? Going into tomorrow where we don't know what's going to happen. We don't know. Again, some of us you shared on on Sunday now a couple of weeks ago. It's like our circumstances are different, our prayers are different, our desperate um prayers are different, but at the same time, we can go into any of those situations, whether our dog got lost, and it was it was this big blow to us, or whether we have a family member who's battling something, um, a sickness, or or there's a death in our family. What do we know? Regardless of those circumstances, his promise is the same that that we will have his joy, that if we're connected to him, we will be rooted in joy. Yeah. That if he never did anything else for us except send Jesus to save us and rescue us and die for us, that would be enough to be joyful, right? Like whatever it is that I'm facing or going through, if I just continually think about the cross, I think about Jesus, I think about my salvation, that ought to be enough to at least put a smile on your face. At least, even in the darkest moments, make you think, man, I'm in a rough place right now, but I'm on my way to heaven, and so I can handle this differently than someone who's not on their way to heaven can handle it because I got the joy of the Lord. The last thing I wrote down is I was like, we need to stop chasing after happiness and start pursuing a relationship with Jesus. Because once you do, that's where the joy comes from. It's like I'm not chasing after some happiness, like I said a couple of weeks ago, like a dopamine fix, but at the same time it's it's with our happiness. It's like, no, this thing is gonna bring me happiness. And then when all of a sudden it doesn't anymore, you're trying to find something else. You're trying to find something that will make you happy, instead of okay, I'm gonna invest my time in my relationship with Jesus, so that okay, instead of seeking happiness, I'm gonna seek true joy. So I have to do that. I think with all of these fruit, right? The the the proximity to Jesus is the thing that's gonna bring these fruit out or take them away, right? Like the the further you drift from Christ, the further the the more you don't read your Bible, the more you don't go to church, the more you stop praying, the more the more you drift from Jesus, the harder it's gonna be to have peace, to have patience, to have self-control, to have goodness, to have joy, the closer you are to him, that proximity all of a sudden, it brings everything into perspective of you know there are certain things like you asked me, there are certain things, certain people that when we're around, we just find joy a little bit easier. Well, Jesus should be the ultimate person that when we get close to him and we spend time with him, the joy should just pour out of us of like, man, look at how awesome God is that he cares about you know a wombat pooping cubes, but he also cares about me, or he cares about some bird that fell out of the sky. How much more than does he care about me? And that should bring joy into our lives. And in turn, the joy that it brings in our lives should then affect the people around us and bring and bring joy out of them. And people should see that fruit, which is why, not to keep talking about him, but which is why Pastor Chris is such an awesome children's pastor, because kids can see the joy pouring out of him, right? Like I've never seen a kid walk up to Chris and cry. Yeah, literally never. Like I have only seen kids walk up to him and smile and laugh and enjoy church and all the things that God has to offer them because of that joy. So be Pastor Chris this week.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And it's infectious too. Like, you know, like in talking about Pastor Chris, like his whole team, like the all the kids' workers are that exact way. Like they're all like great people, they're all super nice. And I've never said this on the podcast. I know you guys know about this because I've talked about it in prayer and stuff, but like Pastor Chris is the reason I'm in church. Like I came to New Life as a kid, and we were in between churches, and you know, we he had the the Nintendo Wii back there, and we were playing Mario Kart, but then he just like made me feel super welcome, he was super happy. There was a lot of um, you know, all the workers there were very like him, like very joyful. Um so that stuff is infectious too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, it makes a lasting effect on people, you know. If if people can say, Oh, here comes here come you never as a Christian, you never want to be the person that when you're walking towards somebody, they either run the other way or try to avoid you or say, Oh no, here comes you know, you that or at work. Like I'm thinking of like just jobs that I had, like when I did it. Oh, you meant this job? No, not just that or at work. Because there's a couple of no, it's like people like when I used to I worked at an ice rink when I was in college, and our boss was like the most miserable person. Like she was just always complaining about something, always had like something that she was upset about or didn't like or disagreed with, and it was like that's all we talked about was like, Oh, here she comes. Like, here she's gonna we have this great idea, we're doing this, and we're doing that, and it's like, oh, here's negative Nancy. Sorry, any Nancy's. Sorry, Nancy. Your mother, dude. That's crazy. No, she's a very positive person. We we love Nancy. Yeah, you better, she's watching your kid right now. That's true. What do you have there in orange, sir?
SPEAKER_01Um anchor contentment in God rather than outcomes. God is still good, and we are still saved regardless of what goes on around us, and that is always enough.
SPEAKER_02There you go.
SPEAKER_01I think that's the big I never did anything else. And I think I I really like the distinction that you made between happiness and joy, because you know, you have the saying or money can't buy happiness, right? Like, and then people argue like it can buy happiness. It probably could buy happiness, but it can't buy joy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, right, like it could make you comfortable or or get exactly it can buy momentary happiness. Yeah, that's circumstantial. You got a struggle, yeah, temporary but that joy is real because I've seen people that are miserable, and I've seen people with no money that are full of joy. So it's it's certainly it's a trait. Yeah, it is, it's a trait, it is, and it's something that we can build on and pray about and ask God to help us with. So if you're a grumpy person, if you're watching this right now and you're like, well, I don't know why they talk about that, then that's for you. You need joy. That's me next week, because I'm sure there's gonna be something that's gonna be upset. We're gonna make it. Like, you know what? I gotta have joy today. Just think about your aunt. Yeah, my aunt Joy, my cousin Joy. Your cousin Joy. My cousin aunt. I went to school with a kid, his last name was Joy. I've never heard that his last name was. Oh, I went to college with TJ Joy, dude. TJ, he works for the Springfield Cardinals. Dude. Get us check out. A lot of baseball teams get there. A lot of baseball references to Let's go. We'll be there in August. Hamas Field. You're going to Springfield? No, we're going to St. St. Louis. Oh, yeah, no. Pass. We and Mateo are going on vacation to St. Louis, Missouri. Just the two of us. It's going to be great. We're going to go to a Cardinals game. We're going to go to the zoo. Nelly concert. Yeah. Nelly dumb dude. It's going to be awesome. The Lou. The Lou. Can't wait. I've never been there. It's you're not. You're not missing much. Yeah, you're not missing much. East St. Louis, forget about it. Yeah, you definitely want to miss out on that. Police don't ignore that. Is there still a there's a there was a Six Flags at St. Louis when I was there. There is, yeah. Yeah. I remember driving by it on my way home. Mr. Six's pandemonium, dude. Is that what? I haven't been to Six Flags in a long time. Oh. And you're not, it's not great. We went with the middle schoolers last year. Well, we went a couple years ago to. Yeah, but middle schoolers love it. My son's like a side. Yeah, but I went and I'm like, oh my gosh, this place is like run down.
SPEAKER_01It is. At that point, just go to Lake. Well, that's because it's in Springfield, Massachusetts. Yeah, true. Save them money.
SPEAKER_02Or Agawam, or is it Springfield? It's Agrawam, yeah. Agawam. Alright. What else we got for today? We got any games today? Any riddles over there? I'm full of joy. Please, no riddles. Riddles make me joyless. Joyless.
SPEAKER_00That's what really uh gets upset.
SPEAKER_01Alright. Let me pull up this timer. Okay. So there's a game. I don't know if it has an official name. Yes, there's a timer on the screen in front of your face. Yeah, but then I gotta count it. Alright, alright, alright. Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. Timers go this way. That's a stopwatch.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it's just go up. Stopwatches go up, timers go down.
SPEAKER_01I don't think that's true. That has to be true. That's how it is on here. If you start a timer on your phone, it goes down. It goes down, but then a stopwatch if I start. I just call them all timers. I do too, but so I guess I'm just being a jerk for no reason. Um so 30 seconds. Yeah. You have to name the things in the category, and you're gonna have to.
SPEAKER_02Are these categories like specific to us? Like you think we would be good at them, or are there like random categories? Yeah, I have some random categories. Okay, so Luke's going first. Or like No, no, no. It's back in the back. So we have to say like I could do this many. I'm just gonna let you do that. Then just go back because there's no way I'll get as many as you. That's soft. Not true, Devin.
SPEAKER_01Try it. Alright, first one.
SPEAKER_02Um if he says Star Wars characters, you'll beat me. Yeah, because you've never seen it. I could do like four. You've never seen Star Wars? Nope. Proud of it, dude. We watch it in the office, though. He he I I see him peeking around his computer. Is there a reason or is it just stubbornness? This is Luke Star Wars camera B. This is Luke. I I put Star Wars on. He's like, I don't like this movie. This is him around his computer. That's that's not that's not that's not accurate at all. It's it's accurate at all. Every single per like people talk about them obviously in high regard, right? Which I I get. But then when you really talk, yeah, but but you say fantastic. I think the spin-off things are cool. I think the You don't like the original movies? But I'm just saying, like, the original ones are super old, and then you told me you've admittedly said the middle ones are not great. The ones, the prequels are not, I don't like, or the the most recent ones, I think that you have to take them for what they are. Like I think people try to compare them to the old ones, but it's like, no, they're their own movie. Like I understand? Yeah. Those are awful movies. They they're not they're not good, but same with same with both Transformers movies. But what do people do? They love them. Transformers is nowhere near on the platform on the platform. From an entertainment value, it's like there are like there's levels to it, like with most of the Marvel movies. The the Avengers ones are sick, but it's like there's the Falcon and the Winter Soldier. It's like, yeah, that's an okay movie, but entertainment-wise, it's you're you're not gonna be able to do that. Yeah, but we're talking I'm talking about cinematics movies franchise. I'm talking about a franchise. Fast and Furious got 10 movies. How many of those are actually good? Yeah, but no one holds Yeah, no one holds let's be no one holds. I agree with the Fast and the Furious movie. No one holds the Fast and the Furious movies or the Transformer movies in as high a regard as the Star Wars movies, and people talk about them like they're God's gift to film, but if you just said the last of your trash and you just said you gotta take it for what they're worth, I just don't have any desire to watch them.
SPEAKER_01And I can respect that. I've seen them exactly one time.
SPEAKER_02I but yeah.
SPEAKER_01Just to get cold. That's fine. I watched them in high school, that's fine.
SPEAKER_02But I I just I enjoy it. Like you'd re-watch like The Sand Lot. Sure. Because you really like that movie. Like if you went back and watched it as like a cinematic. That's definitively a good movie. No, obviously not. Yeah, it is. No Mighty Ducks, D2 Mighty Ducks. Trinidad and Tobago is in the world championships. They don't even have ice there. Like, let's calm it down. All right. Dude, you they got ice drinks. Now I'm fired up. My joy is gone. Wait, so you don't you don't like the prequels?
SPEAKER_01I I don't like them as much as most people do. I don't like whatever the first one is. Uh fantasy. So you basically it's like the three old ones.
SPEAKER_02No, they were they're like the 2000s. They're like with like Obi-Wan's. And yeah, and then the newer, there's one that's called Rogue One. Rogue One. It's its own separate movie. It's like a war movie. It's not like a that's the one you told me to watch because I don't need to watch it.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't, yeah, it doesn't need to be a clue. Like happens, like the end of the movie is the beginning of the movie. I really liked Mandalorian.
SPEAKER_02Four.
SPEAKER_01Mandalorian's couple of years. Exactly. So it's Mandalorian.
SPEAKER_02It's yeah. What's that other Star Wars show that's really good, everyone says? I watched Andor. Andor. That's that's prequel to Rogue One. So if you watch Andor and then Rogue One, it's all it's like a you're like right before the movie. Maybe I'll watch those and separate. And then I'm watching Clone Wars now, which is the cartoon. The cartoon one? But it's so good. Every episode is a ton of seasons, no? There's like 12 with like 20 episodes. But I'm ripping through it. I'm on like season four right now. That's a lot. What do you think is is the best? What do you think is the best franchise like start to finish? So like three, we'll say three movies or more. Lord of the Rings. I've never seen it. What? You didn't watch that Star Wars. You didn't go into Danny's and watch that first.
SPEAKER_01No, we didn't end up. You don't have ten hours to spare to watch three. Yeah, the extended cut of the first movie is like four hours, no. It's like four and a half hours for you to watch these.
SPEAKER_02No, I would say, I would say that. Like I watch them every year. I watch them around Christmas time every year. Is it a Christmas movie? No, it's just uh every year. I'd sort of Christmas movie. The Lord of the Rings are just like Santa Claus. There is elves in it. There is elves in that you even know that. I've seen them. Dude, what's his name? Uh Legolus? Legolus. Legolus. Oh, yeah, you made that reference to that. Legolus. Don't you shoot that arrow, Debit. I like kept it on my channel. Alright, alright, go ahead. Let's play the game. Wait, wait, no, no.
SPEAKER_01I liked your question. Um wait, wait, wait. Oh, wait, no, you answered it. You agree with that, Lord of the Rings? Lord of Rings. Lord of Rings. Lord of Rings. It's up there for sure.
SPEAKER_02I think it has to be grossing. It's probably a huge following. Harry Potter. I wasn't going to say that. Never seen him. I'm a Christian.
SPEAKER_00Experience.
SPEAKER_02I would. Yeah, it's up. Lord of the Rings is definitely up there. Dragon Park's probably up there. There's one kind of crappy one in that. One crappy one. The last couple ones. I've never seen that. I like the ones with Chris Pratt. The most recent one's not good. And the third Chris Pratt one is not good. The third one. Camp Cutaceous, though. Awesome. Great cartoon. See, that's like Clone Wars. Like you watch that and it's like, all right, this is not like a children's cartoon. Like this is good. I'm trying to think of ones that like Indiana Jones. If they didn't ruin it with the newer ones, like if it was just Raiders of the Lost Ark, like. When that guy's face got melted off, dude. You have chosen poorly. I haven't seen any of the games.
SPEAKER_01You've never seen any of the Indiana Jones? Pretty good. No Jurassic Park. No. What? He's not a movie that he does not watch weeks. He's not a Cinephile.
SPEAKER_02Dude, we should. That will be the stream. Obviously, you have to be. I don't know if I can say that on podcast. Never seen it. Don't watch that. That's not propose. Avatar? I've heard bet. That's a new one. Avatar. You have to think about the scope of like that first movie, dude. It's so good. It's it's the biggest movie of all time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Two and three is I don't I didn't like them.
SPEAKER_02I didn't I didn't again. I liked it.
SPEAKER_01They were just the exact same plots.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. But I'm like, that first movie was like a game changer, dude. It was revolution. It was a brand new story. That's why I threw Jurassic Park in there. Because the first Jurassic Park with the cinematography CGI, forget about it. When did they come out? Those first Jurassic Park still holds up. 1999.
SPEAKER_01That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02I want to see what it looks like. Yeah, like those dinosaurs and stuff that they use for that, it's still. Like when you're thinking about that, like I because I sometimes I try to get Brody to watch older movies, and he's just like, he can't get into it because the graphics and stuff are so bad. So they're like, like it's right now, like CGI, you could make anything, and they're using like these, like they're like, oh, there's a ship coming in. It's like something on a submarine that you would see. It's like a piece of wire hanging from the ceiling. It's like this was made in 2020. Yeah, like look at that image. Go back to that one that you just had with the T-Rex and him with the like look at that. Like in 1999, that's unreal, dude. That dinosaur looks 1000% rare. They still hold up, they do. But even those, like the first two are really good, and then the third one's Goldblum and like the guy are gonna be. That's the third one, right? Jurassic Park 3. Lost World is a third one, I think. Yeah. With the Spinosaurus. My son loves that one. He's three, by the way. He watches the real ones. I'm trying to now, now my brain's just racking. And then that's the Mosasaurus on that. That's the new one. That's Jurassic World. Also, you know which one we didn't say, which I I probably have a franchise. Yeah, probably a hot take. Okay. They're not my cup of tea. I don't know why, I just don't really like them. But I think all four of the Toy Stories are like 90 plus percent on Rotten Tomatoes or whatever. Oh, people love the Toy Stories. I just not like them that much compared to other Disney movies or other Pixar movies. What's your favorite Disney or Pixar movie? I mean, I like the classics, obviously. Jungle Book was my favorite movie growing up. I like the newer ones. Like I like the Incredibles. I like uh Nemo. I like Finding Nemo. Finding Nemo's really good. You know what's super underrated? It's probably one of my favorites, is Tangled. I've never seen Tangled. Well, once your daughter gets older, you will. It's awesome.
SPEAKER_00You've seen that, but you've never been like I'm like Jurassic Park never seen it. He's like Tangled, he's like, what? Once your daughter gets older, oh I've never seen it. He's like, What? Are you kidding me? Tangled guy living in my apartment watching Tangled on a Friday night.
SPEAKER_01I watched it when I was a kid.
SPEAKER_00Me and my landlord were ripping tangled like a good uh French card.
SPEAKER_02I don't really like the third one. I don't like the second one. Yeah, I don't know. You want to talk about first three, they ruined it with part with number four, but the first three movies, absolute gas, kung fu panda. I've never even thought of it. You don't need to watch four, but the first three, like one they're all the animated movie that I like again, and I didn't watch it till I was like in college because I used to like work at that country club, and that was like one of the only DVDs that we had was Big Hero Six. Oh, that was a good movie. That's sick, yeah. And I was like, I was like, this might be my favorite animated movie.
SPEAKER_01That's a really good movie. Um there's so many. I've never watched them, but the Batman.
SPEAKER_02Or do those Spider Man ones count? Like into the multiverse and stuff? Those are sweet. The cartoon ones. There's only three. There's only two, no. There's two. Yeah. Yeah, because that's stupid. Into the Spider-Verse. It's gonna come out in twenty twenty-seven, I think. I've never seen him. I've never seen my son so mad as when that movie ended, dude. Because it's like a good thing. I haven't seen the second one. It was so mad. Like we were in the theater and he was probably like he was like ten and we were in the theater and it was over, and he's like, What was that? Are you kidding me? He was like, that's it. And I was like No post-credit scene, nope, nothing sees it up. He's like, Google when the next one's coming out, and it's like it still hasn't even like they're saying 2027 or whatever. That's crazy. Yeah, he's he got pretty fired up. I was like that actually when I I went and saw Lord of the Rings, the first one, in theaters in high school, and when it was over, I was like, Are you kidding me? Luke had no idea there was books. He's like, Yeah, no, I had no clue at all. The people I went with when they got up, they were like, Oh, that was phenomenal. I was like, There's no ending. They're like still has the ending. No, they're like, next Christmas, it's coming out. I'm like, next year.
SPEAKER_00They didn't even get they didn't even get on their journey. Yeah, I'm like, like, who's where's the ring?
SPEAKER_02What are we doing? They didn't even find the ring yet. That was brutal. Wow, we should just make a list of uh all the movies you haven't seen. You're you're a horrible, horrible human being. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I only watched that's aggressive. Yeah. I had I if it weren't for Drew, I would have never seen um Interstellar.
SPEAKER_02Interstellar's great. You've seen that, right? Yeah. Inception?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's a good one. I like those ones that like make it.
SPEAKER_01Me too. Did you what do you think? Do you think they were in the dream? I haven't seen that movie.
SPEAKER_02I was uh about say I don't know it well enough to be like yes or no.
SPEAKER_01Cliffhanger was that it's spinning and it's if it falls. It was probably a dream. It was a dream.
SPEAKER_02It is whatever you want the ending to be. That's how they made the ending of Stranger Things. Like they wrote the the the Duffer brothers said they wrote it like Inception, so like it's whatever your viewer is, is what it is. Whatever you want the ending, which is stupid. Give me an ending. Like just give me a conclusion. Just give me an ending. I don't I don't ask for much. Two more Lord of the Rings movies, dude. There's an ending by the third one. So go ahead and watch. I've seen all three of them. I've seen them in Lord of the Rings. I've seen them all. What's the runtime for all three? It's over nine hours. Yeah. We should do that, dude. Come on. We'll sit and we'll watch it. On the pod and talk about it. It'll just be running in the background. Live reaction to twelve hours. Oh. For all three. Extended. But it's a great 12 hours, guys. You see spent 12 hours doing worse stuff. My whole thing with like extended cuts and everything is like if it didn't. They're like you could watch this or drive to the Hilton Head or you could watch Lord the three Lord of the Rings. Give me the Lord Head. My whole thing with the extended cuts is I I know people love them, but like if it wasn't good enough to be in the main movie, why am I wasting my time with it? I've never seen the Super Sunday. I don't really like them. Oh. It's nothing quote them. There's nothing in them that yeah, but there's nothing in them that's like that funny. Oh, there is. Except for there's a couple where there's like, you know, some stuff that was like too inappropriate for TV. That's kind of funny, but I wouldn't find it funny. I'm a Christian. Yeah, right. Quoting Harry Potter over here. This guy's going straight to the versus evil. Alright. It's just it's just Star Wars with worse lightsabers. Have you seen that argument?
SPEAKER_00A young protagonist. Elite, elite young protagonist taken away from his family. Elite roller coaster, though.
SPEAKER_02Am I right? He has to go and fight somebody who turns out to be a relative of his. Elite roller coaster.
SPEAKER_01Do you like butterbeer?
SPEAKER_02Uh I don't drink anything that's crazy. It's non-alcoholic. I don't know about that. Nah, butter, butter, slash. Yeah, it's really something, right? Make sure they do have butter beer. Go down to Harry Potter World, have yourself butter beer on us. Keep the receipt. From the on-to-face. What? Yeah, when they're trying to convince Todd Pagger to go to Florida.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_02That's why it's like, you get a butterbeer on us, you keep the receipt, we'll get you back. And we will see you back on the New Life podcast next time. Can't wait to see you for part seven. Hey, maybe we'll get to that game too. In the next episode. How many Star Wars characters can you name in the next 20 seconds, Cope? Han Solo, Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, Leia, Job of the Hut, Rex, Ja Jobs, Ahsoka, Grogu, Mandalorian. Well, his name's Dinjarin, yes. Nerd. Cassian Andor. Time Jin Urso. I wasn't counting though. I got like 10. I thought you were counting. That was more than 10. Yeah. That's good. I mean, if you didn't show up to me. Sneak peek. I mean, I love it. Join me on what not. Yeah, follow him on whatnot if you want to buy some uh Star Wars cards. If you want to buy sports cards, follow me.
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