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<v SPEAKER_00>If you have your Bibles, you can open to Matthew chapter 8.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're going to start uh reading in verse 5.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But before I do, just want to give a little bit of uh lead up to this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you've been around this year, you've noticed we've been in the book of Matthew an awful lot.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh we started earlier in the year in the Matthew 4, which is the temptation of Jesus in the wilderness.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And we we took a lot of time to talk about that, and that kind of led up to Easter.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then after Easter, we went into the Sermon on the Mount and we were in there for a few months.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We really took a deep dive into uh Jesus' teaching there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And as Jesus taught, you know, he says, Hey, I came to fulfill the law, not to abolish the law.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what he's saying is, I'm gonna teach you some classroom stuff that might feel um disrespectful.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It might almost feel like I'm abolishing um what you've heard or what you've believed about the law of God or the Torah, uh, the word of God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's like, But I'm not, I'm actually bringing to you what God intended the whole time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he does a lot in those three chapters, and so we spend a lot of time on it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then we just decide to keep going.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So Jesus pulls a great rabbi move, he gets done in the classroom, and he goes into the real world, and in Matthew chapter 8, he takes a lot of these things that he had been talking about and he starts to live it out in front of them, which is important, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because we come to church, we listen to some verses and some some interpretation, and then we're like, well, what does that have to do with Monday?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What does that have to do with Tuesday?

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<v SPEAKER_00>How does that show up in my relationships?

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<v SPEAKER_00>How does it show up in how I think in my mind?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so Jesus starts to do that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And we we looked last week at one of the things he did uh we in the Sermon on the Mount, he uses what we call the Torah sampler.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he takes four uh laws of the Torah and he takes them deeper, and one of them like murder, he said, you know, you've heard it said, don't kill people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, but I say if you don't get your anger under control, you could say things with your mouth that would bring death.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you wouldn't even know it was death because they were still walking around, but something died in that person.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that that upsets God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>God doesn't want that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so we got to think deeper than just did I kill somebody or not kill somebody.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's got to go deeper than that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so he uses these four case studies with the intention that we would look at all of the law.

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<v SPEAKER_00>613 laws, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, you got another uh 609 to go.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And and so Jesus goes and immediately starts to challenge their beliefs about um cleanliness or purity and impurity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he touches a man with leprosy that according to the Levitical law, if you touch a man with leprosy or a person with leprosy, which again was a range of skin disorders or sores, you were considered unclean for a period of time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so this man hadn't been touched, he hadn't been touched in a long time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He had to walk around calling out unclean for everybody to hear, so everybody could keep their social distance.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um he he he was uh somebody who hadn't been able uh welcome into the temple.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He wasn't welcome in in uh the church, he wasn't welcome in the community or even in the home of his family, otherwise they were unclean as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So for Jesus to touch him, okay, this is it's really emotional.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, it's a powerful story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And of course, he's not doing this uh in isolation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's a bunch of people watching this happen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So now, okay, we're about to pick up here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, and we we briefly mentioned this last week, but we're gonna really go in on this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is Matthew chapter 8, verse 5.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It says, when Jesus entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So this would have been a uh like a Roman soldier, like a captain who would have been over a hundred soldiers, and it said, and he came asking for help.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, which by the way, that's a shocker because you have a Roman soldier in Capernaum, which was a primarily Jewish area.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is a guy who would have pledged allegiance to Caesar, and to call anybody other than Caesar Lord was a big deal.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so he calls this Jewish rabbi, somebody who was actually subject, would have been in a lower class, so to speak, would have been seen as beneath him, and he calls him Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, My servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Jesus said to him, Shall I come and heal him?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the centurion replied, Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my all right.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How do you pronounce that word?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Huh?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Roof?

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<v SPEAKER_00>All right.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This has nothing to do with the Bible or anything, but I just need to know how you pronounce that word.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because I was in a state one time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not gonna name it, but it rhymes with shmallabama.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I was preaching, and I said roof, and they rebuked me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All right.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The first day laughed at me, and I was like, how do you say it?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And they said roof.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So let's just, we need to, we need to deal with this now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How many of you, how many of you say the word is roof?

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<v SPEAKER_00>How many of you say the word is roof?

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<v SPEAKER_00>The roofs have it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The roofs have it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Alright, we're just gonna make it official today in Columbus, Ohio.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, who would say the roof is on fire?

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's weird.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's okay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thank you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's all straightened out now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But just say the word, he says, and my servant will be healed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, this past week I was out, I was out of town most a week.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I was supporting my wife in in an event that she was doing and some work she does outside the church, and um met some people who who kind of tap in online and what into what we do, join us online, and yet they live in another state.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so um they they were asking, you know, they're they were enjoying the service.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like, what it what a day we live in, by the way, to be able to meet these people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I uh, you know, anytime I come in contact with somebody, you know, who's who's you know a part of our church from another place, like I just stop and thank God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, Lord, what a day we live in, you know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's pretty cool.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, you think about like um the opportunity to to worship God together, what we just did, and to sing together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And there are people in their living rooms or on their phones, you know, that are actually you know connecting like in one accord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's just amazing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So whenever I uh hear that, I just thank God for that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then I thank God for all the people that are connecting that we don't even know, that we never end up meeting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And and so um they were thanking me and us for for you know putting these things out and for them to be able to connect.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But then they started asking questions about you guys, and so they were like, tell me like what these people are really like, you know, because I watch online and I'll follow on social media and I'll see these events and I see people getting baptized and I see people at men's night and women's night and all this, and like what is this community actually like?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, and uh it was a great question.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It caused me to kind of reflect uh and think about it, and then uh I'll give you the summary of my answer.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Basically, I was like, you know, it's kind of a cool place we live.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, we live in Columbus, Ohio, which has a culture.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Columbus, Ohio is a is a diverse place in a lot of ways, you know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So people that live in Columbus are used to working with people, living next to people, uh, going to school with people, eating next to people, uh, interfacing, shopping with people that don't necessarily look like them, think like them, um, that are different than them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so people have gotten used to that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In fact, when you live in environments that are monolithic or homogeneous, everybody votes the same, thinks the same, looks the same, dresses the same, all that's the same.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, you start to formulate opinions about everybody else.

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<v SPEAKER_00>When you actually become exposed to and you're on teams with people that you didn't necessarily have like upbringing in common, you start to find out these are some good folks, you know, this is a good person.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I really like her, I really like him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so so you you find a way to be on a team to learn about people that if you you you maybe wouldn't have naturally normally connected with.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that's part of part of our city, and I think it it does affect our church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, I I think also um when you think about why people go to church, um, you know, certainly there's the few things like there's like we come here to worship God and we come here to hear his word and to honor God and all this, but uh even outside of that, there are if you kind of could just open up your your your psyche, you you would see there are different reasons people come to church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Some people come because they want to be a part of the kingdom of God, proliferating the gospel to the ends of the earth, and they are evangelistic in mind, they're outreach-minded.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We gotta get out, we gotta reach out to the world, and we gotta spread this thing, and we gotta, okay, go to the ends of the earth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then there are some people that frankly, okay, they wouldn't like say this, but frankly, like they're not into that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They actually want the church to be a fortress, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Not as much a mission as a fortress.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like the world's a scary place, there's lots of nasty sin out there in the world, and frankly, there's too much disruption and change.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, it's just everything's disruptive.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's disruptive technology, you know, uh artificial intelligence.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I was just starting to get used to normal intelligence.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And now you got artificial intelligence, okay, and we got robots doing stuff now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so you got that, and then you've got, you know, just all the change just happening.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so it's like, is there anywhere I can go that looks like it did 50 years ago?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I just want to go somewhere that it doesn't ever change.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so they look to church for that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So they're not going, I'm looking to, you know, we're we're gonna expand, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're going, we're gonna bat down the hatches, and I want to come to someplace that's not going to change.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, there are some people that go to church because they want someone like me to stand up here and be the megaphone for all of their beliefs.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They've already crystallized all their beliefs.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I know what I believe, I know what the truth is, and it's boom, boom, boom, and boom.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if I get up and say the thing that you you've heard said or that you love, then you're great to shout amen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I can't wait to just agree with this dude who says the thing that I want him to say.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But then there are other people that come to church because they want to have their thoughts and beliefs challenged.

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<v unknown>Right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's almost like uh brake testing uh cars.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like we want to test these brakes uh before we take it out on the road.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because if I take it out on the road in the real world and these brake tests can't stand up the pressure and they can't stop when they're supposed to, okay, if uh then I'm not safe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I don't want to find that out going over a cliff.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't want to find that out in in a crash.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so you go, I want to take my beliefs and I want to run them through the ringer, man.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I want to find out do these things stand up to the real world?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And do these things stand up?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Are they true?

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<v SPEAKER_00>So if I'm saying something, or whoever's up here saying something that you may not initially agree with, instead of going, that person's a liar, they're wrong, I'm out of here, you're going, oh, let me think about that, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And some people find, and I think most people in our church find a lot of value, okay, in that because as a humble person, I go, you know what, who's to say I'm not wrong?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I might have a blind spot.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so if you can introduce, I'm not just gonna take what you say, but I'm gonna listen and I'm gonna think about it, I'm gonna pray about it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the culture of our church, as I was telling these people, is you know, I think we have a lot of people that are actually find value in being in relationship with people that aren't just like them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I think they also are people that aren't just gonna take what you say, but they are going to listen, they show up, they like to have their thoughts and beliefs challenged and to see if it stands up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um and then we started talking about in terms of the the the grace and truth of our community.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, and and and that's what I want to actually talk to you about today, because I think as a as a community, we are a collective of people, we are a community within a community, and so people that come in here are are gonna what what are they gonna experience?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like these people that are watching online, they show up and they're they would they're curious.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And probably there are people that live within a stone's throw of here that could show up here that would be kind of curious, like, hey, I like I like what I see online, what is it like really really in relationship?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I think we have to decide as a community what kind of community do we want to be?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I think you have to decide as an individual citizen, not just here, but outside of the walls of this church, in your life, everywhere you go, what sort of body of Christ, a kingdom of God citizen do you want to be?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What's it gonna be like to be around you, to be in relationship with me?

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<v SPEAKER_00>All right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, okay, let's think about this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>John 1 says that Jesus came full of grace and truth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that's a fun one to think about because it doesn't say he is he was a he was like half grace and half truth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It says he was full of both, full of grace and truth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So as the body of Christ, it is essential that what our community looks like, how it shows up in conversation and situations, is that we are full of grace and truth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And and so let's let's actually I'm gonna uh sort of draw this up here on the board, and um, I want us to think about like the extreme ends, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh because I think what if we're not careful, sometimes churches pick one or the other instead of embracing what's often the messy and difficult and the tension that comes with both.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All right, but let's just say this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Let's say we decided, hey, we are we're gonna be super high on grace.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we're gonna let's just say we got together and we all put our hands in the middle and we said, we're gonna be the most gracious community on planet earth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like if you come in here, unless you're violent, unless you come in here and you're like going after people, okay, we you can you're you're welcome here, and we're gonna be we're gonna be marked by patience.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like we're gonna be like real patient.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like some churches say, hey, look, you can belong before you believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You heard that before, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can belong before you believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But they're like, but then you're like, well, how how quickly do I have to believe?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because they put you on a timer, you know, okay, it's okay, you can belong here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But if you don't believe in six months, okay, we're gonna run you out of here, all right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And and people feel it, like, uh, belief's kind of a funny thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How do I know if I believe something?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I thought I believe, okay, so they're wrestling through a belief, but oftentimes, you know, people say that, but then it's like you can feel that they have a sense of urgency that you hurry up and check all these boxes of everything you believe so that you can continue to be here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I think all people, right, you go into an environment, you start downloading the information of how safe you are there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We do that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm trying to figure out what are the written and unwritten rules in this community that will turn this safe community into a lynch mob if I don't abide by them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it and so you come in and you do a lot of listening, trying to figure out how safe this is.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If we decided we're gonna be freakishly patient, and this is gonna be a place of healing, however slow it needs to be, and we are going to be highly committed to safety and security.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can be honest about who you are, and and again, we've all questioned this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I do it, we do it, I do it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Here, I question, hey, you know, at what point are these would people turn on me?

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<v SPEAKER_00>At what point you've been in environments and relationships, if I really talk about, if I really open up these things that are deep down that I'm pushing down, is it gonna how am I gonna be treated?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What will happen?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, so if we did that, and the way I framed it, it sounds nice.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Hey, we're gonna be the most gracious place in the whole world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's like, yeah, Pastor, amen to that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, from a different vantage point, it doesn't look like that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>To a different vantage point, it looks like sloppy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, so this church is sloppy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>May you just let anybody in there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what they would say is, you're worse than the world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You're saying that you're more gracious than the world, and that's just a cute way of saying that y'all are full of compromise.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have compromised.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have just let anybody do anything, anything goes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Come on in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Have you guys read any of Paul's letters?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Have you read anything in Corinthians where Paul's calling people out?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like, when are you gonna call people out?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so it looks like sloppy, worse than the world, and compromise.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All right, so now we say, you know what?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, we gotta be people of truth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And let's say we're like, this was like we're we're heavy here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're not full of grace and truth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're we're 90% truth and 10% grace.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What does a high truth environment look like?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, it's high standards.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, high standards.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we say, look, we serve a holy God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We serve a holy God and we need to hold high standards.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And by and we're not afraid to offend anybody.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We'll offend you, it doesn't matter.

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<v SPEAKER_00>By the way, if you were standing in the middle of the road and a car was about to hit you, would you want someone to be patient?

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<v SPEAKER_00>No.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You'd want somebody to shove you out of the road, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you and you're like, why'd you push me?

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's like, you know, congrat congratulations, I saved your life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You're welcome, okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You were standing there, there was a car bearing down on you, and I saved you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so you you're calling me judgmental, and you're saying I'm harsh, but I saved your life, and the truth will set you free.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But first it'll tick you off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's what uh Pharrell Williams, he's a theologian.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, he he he said that'll that's what'll happen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I don't mind ticking you off if I can help get you the truth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so we would say that, and and then we would be a high, high, high accountability.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Accountability.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, so that means we we're gonna call it out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're gonna call this stuff out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>From uh that looks good.

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<v SPEAKER_00>High standards.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I think we all want to be people of high standards.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I think we want to get sin out of our lives.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I think we want to, you know, thrive and go to the next level and be all that God's created us to be and fully fulfilling our purpose and all this and accountability.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And of course, we know, you know, we started talking last week about cleaning house, and so we were talking about the two rooms, and the one room is in disorder, but there's a story behind it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's a reason that the lamp got knocked over.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was there was a fight that took place, and uh the there's a reason that there was a spill and the stain in the carpet.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This it didn't just happen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There was a whole story behind it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so that we had the other room that was in order, and we talked about in order to go from um disorder into order, we got we have to make changes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus came to save the world from our sin, not just cleaning up the mess, but staying in a clean house, learning how to order our lives in a way where we're not living in chaos all the time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And a lot of the ways that we do that is through accountability.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It does.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We need help at this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And sometimes it does take somebody who will speak the truth in love.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Paul says, by the way, in the book of Romans, he goes, Look, I'm talking to you about grace, but don't get it twisted.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We don't sin so that grace will abound.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, that would be so foolish for us to go.

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<v SPEAKER_00>God is is long-suffering and God is patient and God is gracious, and we get grace in place of grace already given.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, cool, let's just do whatever we feel like.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, we should just sin our brains out, okay.

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<v SPEAKER_00>No, he's like, that's that's it's immature, that's foolish.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Why?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because sin, okay, is is is um binding you up, it's creating a prison for you, it's causing you to live in a mess that you're not called to live in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And sometimes it takes somebody who loves you enough to hold you accountable and to say, look, you've had the conviction of the Holy Spirit, you've actually come out and said you need to change it, and you're using grace as an excuse to stay stuck.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, so there's like accountability is one of the ways that we we end up in a better place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, but from a different vantage point, you look at this and you go, you know what, I showed up and I just needed somebody to hear me and to help me, and they kicked me when I was down, and so they'd say, you know, that church over there, man, they're judgmental.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, they're judgmental.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And and and so the people uh sometimes end up in church hurt.

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<v SPEAKER_00>By the way, if you're here and you've been hurt by a church, I'm not making light of it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh I I've been hurt, I've been hurt by church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I've absolutely been hurt by church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um a lot of times there are people that don't take the time to get to know somebody, don't take time to walk with people, and sometimes, frankly, they get annoyed and frustrated with people and and they end up just polarizing and pushing them out when they needed to listen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And there are times that you pull punches.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We often don't treat people the way we want to be treated or treat people the way we would want them to treat our brother or sister or child.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so this stuff does happen, but I've also seen it where somebody knew better.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They had had the conviction of the Holy Spirit, they knew, and and they were allowing grace, okay, to keep them stuck in making a change that they've known for a long time they needed to make, and anybody who brought it up was a hater.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so, from this vantage point, it looks like legalism.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, let's be honest.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Either one of these ends, you know, these uh categories, like these places, you you churches can become this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>We could become churches that would imagine themselves to be gracious, can become sloppy, worse than the world, and compromised.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And churches that would say we hold a high truth and we're full of standards, holiness and accountability can become judgmental and hurt people and be legalistic.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We don't pick grace or truth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We are the body of Jesus, which means we are full of both.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it's not as it's not a simple process.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's often messy, often people are misunderstood.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And yet I believe this is what we should strive for as the body of Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What does this look like?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, let's go back into the story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, the the story with a little bit of context is going to really come alive.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In Matthew 8, it says that Jesus enters Capernaum and he sees this centurion, and the centurion comes up to ask for help.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you we read ahead a little bit ago, we see the this interaction Jesus has with this soldier.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What really makes the story come alive is understanding context.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So if you were to go and look up the book of Matthew, right, we we talked about this a couple months ago.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We talked about, remember, I put up a picture of the movie The Princess Bride, and it was like this grandpa is telling his grandson a story about Andre the Giant and Buttercup and all that, the six-fingered man and all this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, so you have two storylines going on simultaneously.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have grandpa and grandson, and then you got the epic tale.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's the same, very similar in the book of Matthew because you have Matthew writing to people, but he's he's writing to people about stuff Jesus said to people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, so when you understand what's going on here, it's gonna take on a whole new level of intensity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, Matthew, if you went to study Matthew and you're like, when was Matthew written?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like the dating of the book.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The earliest datings of the book, okay, we don't know precisely when, like he didn't date you know his manuscripts, but we know precisely based on uh cult uh some of the context of what he wrote, the earliest writings would be A.D.

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<v SPEAKER_00>60 to 65.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The later datings would be somewhere between A.D.

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<v SPEAKER_00>80 and 90.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So what's significant about that is what happened in A.D.

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<v SPEAKER_00>70.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, in AD 70, the Romans destroyed the Jewish temple.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, they destroyed the temple.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, here's what happened.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you go back a couple hundred years before Jesus, super famous story of the Maccabees.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So you have the Seleucid Empire that came in trying to demoralize the Jewish people by crushing their culture.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the Seleucid leadership put a statue of Zeus in the middle of the temple, which was like that was an abomination.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The Jewish people are like, the temple is the holiest place on planet earth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is where the literal presence of God abides.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the Seleucid leaders are gonna put Zeus in the middle of the temple.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It is, I mean, that is some serious stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the Seleucids were trying to take over the world, they're spread out, they're military spread out, and the Maccabees, the Maccabees family, um, Judas Maccabeus, Judas the Hammer was his nickname.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Judas the Hammer, they they they go seal team six on these guys.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They go in and they take back the temple, they kick Zeus out and uh you know, they light the menorah, and that's where you end up with Hanukkah, the holiday of Hanukkah, celebrates when they took back the temple.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So now these are national heroes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Judas Maccabeus and his brothers, okay, after that, generationally, pretty much everybody that was naming boys were naming them after the Maccabees boys.

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<v SPEAKER_00>These are national heroes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So when Jesus shows up, you now have the Romans that have taken over, like what the Seleucids were, and you have zealots that are basically like, we need the spirit of Judas Maccabees.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We need to take back the temple.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so they're wanting to fire the spirit of Judas Maccabees back up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And in AD 70, they tried.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But it was a very different story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Instead of them succeeding, the Romans crushed and they destroyed the temple.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Not one stone was laid on the other.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, they tore it down and they destroyed the priesthood.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, the reason I tell you that, now let's go, let's think about Matthew's audience.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Matthew, we've already established his writing to an exclusively Jewish audience.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's okay that we read it, but he wasn't writing it to Gentiles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was writing it to Jewish people.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So however you date it, if you date it in AD 60 to 65, Matthew's writing this story of Jesus interacting with this Roman centurion right before.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Is this thing's about to spill over?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Or if he wrote it after, it's right after it spilled over and the temple's destroyed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so you could see from the listener how provocative, how hard to receive this story would be that Jesus wouldn't, and that Matthew would tell about how Jesus made a hero of this soldier.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you're Matthew, and you you there'd be a part of you that would take a lot of courage to write this because you realize some people are going to shut you down once they hear centurion.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's going to feel like propaganda.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And and yet he puts this in there because he's going, This is you cannot separate this from the kingdom of God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have to understand how Jesus thought and what Jesus did.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, it gets even better because Jesus walks up to this guy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We'll pull the verses back up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He walks up, and the guy says, My servant is suffering.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's paralyzed, he's in pain.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he says, Um, you know, I don't even uh deserve to have you come under my roof.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, look what it says in verse roof.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Verse 7, that was I didn't mean to do that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh verse seven.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But no, this is what I want you to get.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Verse 7.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus said to him, Shall I come and heal him?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then you're gonna see in verse 8 at the end it says, just say the word, my servant will be healed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So read it in English, and we see healed twice in English, so you would assume that it uses the same words, but he doesn't.

00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:59.359
<v SPEAKER_00>When Jesus says, Shall I come heal him, he uses the word therapeutic, which means to provide care or therapy or to nurse someone back to health.

00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:05.039
<v SPEAKER_00>When he says, Well, you don't even have to do that, just send the word and he'll be healed.

00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.000
<v SPEAKER_00>The centurion uses the word for cure.

00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.880
<v SPEAKER_00>In other words, just get it over with.

00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:24.640
<v SPEAKER_00>But Jesus, then this is where if you're the audience and you just walked off the Sermon on the Mount, you just heard the Torah sampler, and and and Jesus just touched a leper, and you're like, Okay, is he gonna go quarantine for for all the time?

00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:25.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, what's going on?

00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:48.480
<v SPEAKER_00>For then Jesus to walk up to a centurion through Matthew's listener who either just destroyed your temple or is about to, and for him to walk up and say in front of all the people, when the guy says, My servant is suffering, to go, I'll come to your house and nurse him back to health.

00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.799
<v SPEAKER_00>This isn't just I'll walk in, touch him, heal him, and walk back out.

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:55.440
<v SPEAKER_00>He's saying, I'll change the bedding.

00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:02.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I'll sit bedside and hold his hand while he suffers.

00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:07.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And this is in a culture where these folks were not even going into one another's homes.

00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.920
<v SPEAKER_00>If you were to go into the home of a Gentile, you are now unclean.

00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Not only ceremonially, socially.

00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:21.359
<v SPEAKER_00>The big knock on Jesus was that he was friends with these people.

00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:33.680
<v SPEAKER_00>And so you have Jesus going and offering therapy, offering patience, offering a patient timeline of healing and providing care.

00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:35.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And of course, the story goes on.

00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.400
<v SPEAKER_00>The centurion goes, you don't even have to do that.

00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:39.839
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, I'm a man under authority.

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:41.200
<v SPEAKER_00>I have people under my authority.

00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:42.079
<v SPEAKER_00>I say the word.

00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.319
<v SPEAKER_00>If they know it came from me, it's done.

00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And he's calling Jesus Lord, and it's just, I mean, it's this is an intense story.

00:29:48.960 --> 00:30:03.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus is he's in the lesser class, he's a Jewish rabbi, he's underneath, he's subject to the Romans, he was would have been seen as inferior, and yet he's saying, Look, if I have this authority, I I recognize your authority is even greater.

00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You send the word and the cure will happen.

00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:08.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And Jesus goes, I've not seen faith like this in all of Israel.

00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:09.440
<v SPEAKER_00>This is wild.

00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:13.440
<v SPEAKER_00>This goes beyond culture, this is bigger than this is amazing.

00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:19.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And again, Matthew writing this to an audience that wouldn't have even wanted to think these thoughts.

00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.839
<v SPEAKER_00>And so he offers therapy and he provides a cure.

00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:41.759
<v SPEAKER_00>But I think what we see, even with that word therapeucio, what we see is Jesus' willingness to be a part of a healing that sometimes might be really fast and sometimes might be really slow.

00:30:42.160 --> 00:31:04.160
<v SPEAKER_00>His willingness to go outside of what was gonna cost him socially, somebody who is religiously other, somebody who was politically other, somebody who was culturally other, and to go, I know what y'all's rules are, but I'm I'm I'm going to go and help this person who's suffering, and to be willing to go in that door and to take that heat to do that.

00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:14.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And I think as a church, for us to do this the right way, it's gonna root it's gonna mean that we are ready and willing to go fast and slow.

00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.519
<v SPEAKER_00>We have to be ready and willing to go fast and slow.

00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:27.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Sometimes grace, the patience of grace means that I choose my words carefully.

00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:36.160
<v SPEAKER_00>That I don't take the mindset that I'm just gonna throw the truth out, and if you don't like it, you know, sucks to be you.

00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:38.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Sorry, you can't handle that's what's wrong with this generation.

00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:39.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Nobody wants to hear it.

00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:44.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Look, everything that's said needs to be true, but not everything that's true needs to be said in every moment.

00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:54.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And you know, when you have somebody who you know well enough to love them, you know the moments that you go, you know what, this is not the time for me to say this.

00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.680
<v SPEAKER_00>And you develop a whole new level of compassion.

00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Doesn't mean that we're shy about truth, doesn't mean that we lack courage.

00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.880
<v SPEAKER_00>It's it's wisdom in the tension between grace and truth.

00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:11.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And that means we're gonna have to have a lot of grace with each other because there are gonna be times I might look at you and think you're being way too patient.

00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:13.759
<v SPEAKER_00>Way too patient.

00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:15.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Where's the cure?

00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.680
<v SPEAKER_00>And yet God may be calling you to a therapeuis.

00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:21.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So I'm not going to judge you.

00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.480
<v SPEAKER_00>But we do, we hold one another accountable.

00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:32.240
<v SPEAKER_00>We have to be willing to have conversation to be able to talk and to make a pact with one another that we understand that grace and truth is messy.

00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:35.039
<v SPEAKER_00>If we want to pick a side, we can absolutely do that.

00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:41.359
<v SPEAKER_00>We can polarize this thing to no end, we can all think alike and we can all violently agree on everything.

00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.720
<v SPEAKER_00>But I don't think that's what Jesus is teaching here.

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I think Jesus is making people uncomfortable.

00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:49.039
<v SPEAKER_00>It makes me uncomfortable to this day.

00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:56.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And I think if we're gonna be the body of Christ that Jesus has called us to be, and if you're gonna be, and I'm gonna be, I'm I'm I'm a community.

00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.839
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm I've you when you come around me, what's it gonna be like?

00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:01.599
<v SPEAKER_00>What's it gonna be like with you?

00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.200
<v SPEAKER_00>We got to make that decision to be able to sit in the two of these together.

00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:15.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Let's not use grace as an excuse to stay stuck, but let's not let truth become an excuse to be rude, to be impatient.

00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:16.799
<v SPEAKER_00>I I end with this.

00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:25.519
<v SPEAKER_00>I had a guy one time who was coming, he'd been coming to church a while, he'd been serving for a while, and he sent me an email and he said, Hey, can I sit down with you?

00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:31.359
<v SPEAKER_00>I need to have an honest conversation, I need to find out if the church is safe for me.

00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:41.200
<v SPEAKER_00>I said, Alright, so he came in, we sat down, and he kind of wanted to plunge into the conversation and go right into some theological debate, some biblical debate.

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.599
<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, hey man, tell me your story.

00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:44.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Give me your backstory.

00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:50.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And so he's like, man, okay, because I was a kid, I grew up in church, I grew up in a pretty legalistic environment.

00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:57.200
<v SPEAKER_00>I grew up in a uh pretty strict Christian environment, and uh my parents were strict, the church was strict.

00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:02.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh they would have been probably a high holy standard accountability, heavy, heavy, heavy here.

00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:12.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And so he said, uh I went there and um I went to youth group growing up, and he goes, when I when everybody was in uh junior high, we all start hitting puberty.

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:16.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And when we did, he goes, the guys in the youth group, um, they just went girl crazy.

00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:17.599
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, girl crazy.

00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:26.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, I mean, we're going to youth, next thing I know, man, they're you know, they're talking one way around the leaders, and then when the leaders aren't there, they're talking another way about you know girls and whatever.

00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And and uh he goes, these guys were struggling.

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, they were struggling big time.

00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.239
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, and I was there, and he goes, honestly, I wasn't even struggling.

00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.960
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, I mean, they were saying all the stuff they were wanting to do.

00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:38.880
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, I didn't even want to do any of that.

00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And he goes, and I thought, man, this is pretty cool.

00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:52.159
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, God must have picked me to be like special, you know, like he's like I'm some kind of like Nazarite vow type set apart, you know, for God's good work.

00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:57.360
<v SPEAKER_00>And so he's like, I'm just thankful because I, you know, these guys are like battling sin every day.

00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:59.679
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, and I it was no big deal for me.

00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:03.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So I thought, man, God, you must have something really, really cool for me.

00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.280
<v SPEAKER_00>And he said, it turns out I was a late bloomer.

00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:11.519
<v SPEAKER_00>He said, a couple years later, uh, I really hit puberty.

00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:15.119
<v SPEAKER_00>He goes, and and I found out I was attracted to the same sex.

00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:18.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And he said, You want to talk about whiplash?

00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:34.880
<v SPEAKER_00>He goes, I went from believing that I was set apart by God to do a great work, specially formed in his image, to feeling like I was the most disgusting thing my parents could imagine and my church could imagine.

00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:36.800
<v SPEAKER_00>And he goes, I had all these thoughts.

00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:38.559
<v SPEAKER_00>I start trying to pray them away.

00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.159
<v SPEAKER_00>I don't know what to do with them.

00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I had no safe place, I had nobody safe.

00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:49.760
<v SPEAKER_00>I couldn't talk to my pastor, I couldn't talk to my youth leader, I couldn't talk to my dad, I couldn't talk to my mom, I couldn't talk to anybody about it.

00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:58.800
<v SPEAKER_00>So here I am, 15 years old, trying to figure myself out, having no one to talk to, and it feels like my prayers are hitting some kind of ceiling.

00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Do I listen to that guy talk?

00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:05.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I'd never heard it put like that.

00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.880
<v SPEAKER_00>He went from a guy I barely ever met to like it felt like I was talking to a brother.

00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:26.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Like my brother, it's like like if if you're here and that's you, or you maybe you have a family member, and you're like, imagine if your family member was watching online, was like something connects here, and they and they walked into my office and we had this conversation.

00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:33.840
<v SPEAKER_00>How you would want them to be treated, how you'd want them to be treated, and it just it felt like familial.

00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:41.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I felt like I was sitting across from my son, I felt like I was sitting across from my brother, and I mean it just it broke me, dude.

00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:45.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Like I sat there, man, and and listened to this guy.

00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, we end up having a long conversation, man.

00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:49.840
<v SPEAKER_00>We we opened up the word.

00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:51.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, what do you see in these texts?

00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:52.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I did a lot of listening.

00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:54.559
<v SPEAKER_00>What what do you believe about this?

00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:55.760
<v SPEAKER_00>What do you believe about that?

00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:02.800
<v SPEAKER_00>All I all I can tell you is I've got my beliefs, I've got my stances, I can defend any position biblically.

00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:04.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, I I I get it.

00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.639
<v SPEAKER_00>It was just a different conversation, it was just different.

00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:09.920
<v SPEAKER_00>The tone was different.

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:15.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, it doesn't mean that I didn't speak the truth, I'm but I'm listening, going, what do you what does this guy believe?

00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm trying to figure out where he's at, what he's receptive to, I'm trying to find out is does he trust me?

00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.840
<v SPEAKER_00>I cared on a level that was familial.

00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:26.400
<v SPEAKER_00>It was familial.

00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:28.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, does that change the truth?

00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Does that change what I believe?

00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.159
<v SPEAKER_00>No, it doesn't, but I promise you it changes the conversation.

00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:50.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And I promise you that if this guy thought that I thought he was disgusting, or I just tired of dealing with it, or I don't want to have to listen to you get upset about it and accuse me of being too patient or whatever, and all of a sudden he's just a problem to be solved instead of a brother to be loved.

00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Conversation goes a lot different.

00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:55.840
<v SPEAKER_00>We got to figure out what kind of community we want to be.

00:37:56.000 --> 00:38:01.440
<v SPEAKER_00>By the way, this sermon is not about just that particular situation, it's about a million situations.

00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus brought it up, the type of thing up with this Roman soldier, made everybody uncomfortable.

00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:16.000
<v SPEAKER_00>We can polarize, we can just think dualistically, we can just go us and them and do that, and we can violently agree, but I don't think that's what Jesus came for.

00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.559
<v SPEAKER_00>That's certainly not what he modeled in Matthew 8.

00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:23.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And so I think what we need to do as a community is we need to embrace the complexity of this.

00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I will give you grace, I will give you grace, I will give you grace.

00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:31.199
<v SPEAKER_00>I ask you to give me grace because I'm not trying to compromise anything.

00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:32.880
<v SPEAKER_00>There is no lack of courage.

00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:38.320
<v SPEAKER_00>What this is is wanting to embody and embrace the heart of Jesus and to walk it out.

00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:43.360
<v SPEAKER_00>And sometimes it means speaking up, and sometimes it means shutting up.

00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:53.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Sometimes it means being freakishly patient, therapeucio, nursing someone back to health, and sometimes the cure comes in an instant.

00:38:53.280 --> 00:39:00.159
<v SPEAKER_00>So you better be ready, and I better be ready to go way slower than we want to go, but sometimes you better be ready to go faster than you want to go.

00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:07.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Because sometimes the conviction of the Holy Spirit hits and you go, you know, I play I plan to drag this out a couple more years, but today's the day of change.

00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm I'm changing, I'm I'm changing this.

00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.719
<v SPEAKER_00>I I feel the conviction of the Holy Spirit, I'm changing this today.

00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:17.360
<v SPEAKER_00>And sometimes it it takes a while to trust, it takes a while to believe in that time frame.

00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:22.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus offered therapeutic so he ended up bringing a cure, but he was willing to do both.

00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:24.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Are you?

00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:25.360
<v SPEAKER_00>Am I?

00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:27.840
<v SPEAKER_00>I hope we are.
