Our First Times: Crushes, Chaos & A Married Man

This week’s kiki starts creamy… but quickly turns into a full-blown “the first time I…” chaos! .

Yes, we open with creamsicles, Charlie perfume, and a head-to-toe cream moment (because aesthetics matter). But the real meat of this episode? Our firsts. We play a rapid-fire game of:

• First crush
• First best friend
• First heartbreak
• First album that changed our personality
• First celebrity crush (problematic? nah!)
• First concert
• First time getting in trouble
• First fight (and why Webster Hall still owes us emotional damages)

Some of it is sweet. Some of it is savory. Some of it explains a lot about who we are today. We talk about cursive handwriting pressure, Barbie manifestation energy, therapy jokes, parody songs that ruined our lives, and the very specific personality trait of always being the one who “does it.” 

And yes, a neighborhood meet-cute with a hot bearded man… who turned out to be married with a situation. 

This episode is nostalgic, chaotic and emotional. Because once you unpack your firsts, you realize they shaped everything.

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The Cutting Up: A Kiki with Connie & Lina is a Pride House Media production.

Producers: Josh Rosenzweig & Matthew Breen.

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Original Music by 808 BEACH (John “J-C” Carr & Bill Coleman), courtesy of Peace Bisquit. 

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Our very special thanks to Jason Kanner for all your support.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

You're gonna get it, honey. Are you ready? It's time for the cutting up. A Kiki with Connie and Lena. This is your backstage pass to all the dishfish. And that's the truth, Ruth. Come on now. Get into it. Kan can. Hi. How are you? I'm good. I wasn't saying we're black, but guess what? We're white. Oh, we're cream. We're cream dream. Cream. Cream. Stunning, mama. So do you, sweetie. Oh, it's a rare color. You look a rich bitch. You own everything. You own 51% of this company. All the cream that rises to the top. Oh, I love cream cookies. Cream sickle. Bitch, I used to live for a creamsicle. A creamsicle. The orange with that little white cream inside. Yeah. Sherbert. Sherbert. And then with a cream. Yes. So lovely. Oh. I could go. And a root beer afloat, honey, with the uh the Neapolitan ice cream inside of a, ooh, with a uh A and root beer? A root is it? A and A and B root beer. A and B root beer, right? Yeah. Say that four times. Oh, god damn. But um, did you ever used to get the Neapolitan ice cream bar with like two waffles? Oh, yes. In between two waffles. Nobody makes those anyway. Come on, Pete. Please. We need them black. We do. They're wonderful. I know you wouldn't think that we would eat them, but you know, if somebody put like something to my head like that, I would eat it. In my head. Okay, wide. It is when you have something near your face, you just have to eat it. Especially if there's some cream on top. Oh, wait, what? Oh, cream on top. Pre pre-cum cream. Pre crumb cream. Pre cum cream. Wait. Prequim queef?

unknown 1:53

Wait.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

We both just went down that spiral together like this. Queefing is true. Trying to fall down the vortex together. I'm holding your cankles. Oh, not the cankle. What? How dare you? Cangkles? Girl, all right, let's do the H to T, honey. Give it to me. Um, I am I have on a um an ensemble. Uh it is uh David Darrymple Blazer. Uh that shoulder pad is fierce, girl. The thing.

unknown 2:27

Yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

It's like a bagoda. It's a it's all about the pant is a Ralph Lorraine. And the top we were talking about her. Yeah, yeah. Oh, uh the the the Jewish designer. Jewish Jewish designer. Jewish jeans. Jewish jeans. In tight. I can't remember her name. Um what you say? It'll be on the screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be on the screen. So but the color situation is everything. It is. I throw a pinstripe in anything, it is so chic. But the hair girl. And the hairflow. It is so fair, but this color is everything. Yarly? Yarly. Oh, and speaking of sugar. Alo, Charlie. I used to live for those commercials. She is. A wide, a wide step. I mean, a wide step, a wide gate. Is there any inside of this? Oh, it is. It's full. Oh. See, and I've had this since back in the day. Oh, wait, it's it's really dark. Don't spray it. No, I won't spray it. It's like that old go away evil spray, remember, honey? It was. But smell her. Oh, yeah. You know who that bitch was who wore her. Yeah, but she's a little off. That's why exactly. Exactly. It is, it it is reminiscent of Go Away Evil, Dusty Pussy. Ooh, that dusty pussy. Dusty Pussy.

unknown 3:48

Charlie.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

Brought to you by Charlie Shiggy. And I love the ads because it was a wide gate, which meant uh female empowerment. Exactly. Um, and it it well well, it was during like, you know, that first or second wave of feminism. Absolutely. And just a strong suit on a woman, honey, in that cut with uh, what you will call it, what's her name? With Shelley Hack, who ended up becoming a Charlie girl. She did. She was a angel. Hello. She was the Connecticut um waspie uh angel. Yes. Yeah. White woman. White woman. You know what's funny? When when she came onto the scene, um, I thought on Charlie's Angels, it's like, God, her hair was like straw. But now looking back, I'm like, bitch, she was fierce. She was. She looked really fierce. I didn't appreciate her much then, but I do now. But but because she was sort of um coming in and sort of usurping or trying to usurp Farah's role. Yeah, which, yeah. But no, no, no, no. No, no, no, which Sheryl had Sherlade was still there, the sister. Yeah, and then um Brie left the dark, the dark hair. Yeah, and then there were two blondes. Yep. Yeah, exactly. Two blondes, and then uh Tanya uh Roberts came up. Yes. Oh, she was everything. Oh, Jesus. A bad angel. So we're doing cream today. I said, you know what, uh, this is linge. I said, let's do this. And it's funny, I completely matched the situation that I'm sitting on. I know you you um you are your home decor. I am my home decor. Curses. Okay, girl. So anything new in the uh dating department? We're gonna recircus back after resurcus. Resurface. Recircle. Recircle, that's it. Circle back to. We're gonna circle back to uh-huh. Yeah. Um there's nothing really. I'm I I'm I'm sort of sister betrayal. Yeah, yeah. You know. Umita Betrayal. You didn't hear that from me. Bonita Apple Bonnie. Bonita Apple Bonnie, she got it going on. Um, I I'm not closed down, yeah. But um, I don't know. I'm not nobody is like nobody's doing it. Nobody's doing it lately. Because we're always the one doing it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I am literally in that same place, sis. I feel like I'm kind of taking a um a hiatus from men. For me personally, going out after it, if it comes for me, which it always does, I'll evaluate it. We'll see. Like, for instance, the other day, I was um dropping my bike off to go get serviced. And um next door is the pet store. Uh-huh. I usually have it delivered to me, but I went to the pet store, had the babies with me, and um, they're like, Hey Eileen, how are you? I was like, Oh, good to see you. Like, I because you know I never go in. Yeah. So I'm getting the food, and then all of a sudden, this hot bearded guy, of course, comes up to me and he's like, Oh my god, your dogs are so cute. I was like, Thank you. And I was like, I know where this is going. Uh-huh. And I was like, Do you have a dog? And he's like, Yeah. He's like, I've got a Rottwild. I was like, Oh, let me see a picture. He showed me a picture. He's like, This is Stella. I was like, she's so cute. And then we do a little small talk, and then he walked away, and then he came back, and then he's like, Can I get your site? I was like, My site? I was like, You want my phone number? He's like, Yeah, but I didn't want it before it. I was like, baby, we're past that, honey. So I gave him my digits. Um, he leaves. As I'm walking out of the store, I get a text message from him. So he lives in my neighborhood. And then he's like, I've seen you before. He's like, You're really great. I was like, You have. I was like, where? And he clocked and told me exactly where he saw me in my neighborhood. He's like, and I've always wanted to say something to you. He's like, You have really great style. I was like, Well, you're not blind. Okay. You have said so. We're chit-chatting, and then we were gonna meet for a day, a date uh the next day. Uh-huh. But it was raining, and we're gonna meet like at this little place in our neighborhood. And so I was like, Well, let's touch base later in the day and see, God, you look fucking gorgeous. Oh, that mug. So we met by the park here, and um, he brought his dog, and um, it stopped raining at that point. And he's like, We're, you know, getting to know one another. And he's like, Well, listen, I wanted to tell you about my situation. I'm like, anybody that's gotta say a situation, honey, means like, where are we going with that? I was like, okay, go ahead. He's like, well, you know, I've been married, I've been married for like 11 years, and um, you know, we're kind of like, I live with her and she supports me because I hurt my back. He was in construction. He's like, and she supports me, but you know, if you want to start dating, I would move in with you. I was like, oh. I was like, darling, listen, let me tell you something. Wait, yes, baby, laid it out like that. I was like, thank you, first of all, thank you for like telling me and not wasting any of my time, like, you know, the untalented Mr. Ripley, the one that I told you about beforehand. Thank you. No time wasted, but goddamn, the Minerva of it all. Like, whoa, you are a grown man. I was like, yeah, that's not sexy, and I'm not trying to do that. I need a wet nurse. Right. And support. I don't care how fine you are, baby, nothing is that fine. But how fine can you be if you have a back problem? Thank you. Honey. Like we need you to find. Taxidermish. It's not a thing. We need power in the thighs. Something in the back. Something. But yes, girl, uh-huh. You gonna lay down and let me do all the work? Don't I always? Well, that's I mean not in this cream, though. But so I'm kind of like, uh, I'm like this right now. I'm like, I'm blessing in disguise. Right, exactly. Blessing in the skies. You to step up and be the Jordash look. Yeah. You know what I mean? But I'm done being that person right now. I really am. Like, I want someone stellar and amazing like myself. Yeah. That brings something to the table. You you you want to bring equal to to have wonder twin power. Absolutely. Act of fucking vague. Bam. Form of a real, fully evolved man. Thank you. And the beard stuff, I don't want to fuck Jesus. I do. I can't. I loved for a beard, honey. Oh god, I need a beard. I mean, it's nice on the neck, but after that, it's just like food in it. All of it. Cream in it. I mean, but anyway, you know what we're gonna do? We're gonna do first. First like first, um, first things, first times. Oh, gorgeous. Okay, so first crush. First crush, it was in what? In how old? Oh, um, I think I was around maybe seven or eight. Okay. And it was G.I. Joe. Oh, he was hot. He was hot. I could still get it. He was hot. Yeah. Um, that was my first crush. And what about a person? First? Um, I think it was maybe the six dollars, six thousand dollar man. Ooh, yeah. And then uh um um um oh gosh. I can't remember his name. Um Caramel. No, a little bit darker than Caramel, and he wasn't in um whatchamacallit, um, Enter the Dragon. We'll uh we'll find out, and it'll be on screen. But gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. Oh my god. I know. He sounds hot. Um like he he was in a lot, he was in a lot of the black exploitation films. Oh, okay. And a karate, a karate expert. Yummy. He was so gorgeous. Okay, he can get it. He could, oh, he could have gotten it. 70s?

unknown 11:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

Yeah, 70s. Okay. Um, first crush. Uh, let's see. It was this boy in third grade. I don't remember this uh thing that used to, it was like a grab bag thing where you had to get the person a gift, right? Uh-huh. I had the biggest crush on him. I thought he was like Franna. Right. Uh-huh. And um he had braces and dimples. And I used to line my teeth, I think I told you, with paper clips because I got my first hickey from him. And he had dimples, and I used- you remember those big p uh um uh what were they called uh the uh erasers? Yeah, you could put those big fat pencil erasers or erasers you can put on? The big pink ones? They were like little pyramids. Exactly. Use until today. I used to go like this and to think that I would get a thingy do. My girlfriend's like, you look foolish. She's like, You got that metal thing. I was like, but I thought I looked hot because I love that feeling of the braces up against the neck. And to this day, I love a man in braces. I love a grown man in braces. Oh my god. So there was him, and then I remember getting him um Javon Cody Wild Musk as a gift, and a pair of PR Cardin jeans. He's like, Oh, you give good gifts. I was like, that's not all I give. Oh well, how old were you? I don't know, third grade, grown. Oh, first best friend. Not your hand Oh my god. Starting off real French today. French. First one again. First one hand? Wait, what? What? First handy?

unknown 13:33

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Out. Um first what again? I handy. Oh, I went best friend. First best friend. Um that didn't happen until like high school because school was torturous. Yeah, okay. They hated me and I was like, and I couldn't give high school and um they um they they they they were the makeup artists for the school play. Oh, okay. And and we became friends. Work. Okay. That was my friend. Mine was uh Audra Trambelly, third grade. We used to um watch Not Slanding Together and make out underneath the sheets. Oh my god. That was an equal opportunist, huh? Not Valline. Yes, huh? Valine, long Audra Tramb. Yep, Audra Trambley was the shit. Okay. First, um your first memory. What was your first memory that you remember as a child? My first memory would be um writing the number two um on our walls. Wow. Because um because in Jamaica you go to school like uh like like a couple of years um earlier, and my mom was like getting me ready, and um I knew how to write my name, and I was learning how to write my numbers, and I was kind of fascinated with the loop. Right. Yeah, the loop, yeah. The loop and the number two, right? So I I there there there was just like a whole line of them on the wall. I love that. And thank God they were in pencil. Right, exactly. Yeah, isn't it crazy that kids don't know how to use cursive these days? I know. I I love cursive. And and now I'm writing cursive. And now I'm I'm sort of losing the ability to read it. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Well, it it's well, it's I guess it depends on the person. The person's writing, handwriting, yeah. On the person's handwriting. Okay. Because sometimes it's like doctor script. Right, and also like line squiggle. Right. And it's like, is that antihistamine? But also, too, we're not writing as much as we used to. No, no, because it's all I know, right? Oh, the odula in the hand. Oh, please, like, like this thumb. Yeah, I know. Um, my first memory, um I go back to I think it was it was like a it was early school, like maybe preschool or whatever. I remember putting together my looks. I would put like how I've always been, and I would plan my looks on the weekend, and I would have them laid out, and I'd have, you know, the socks and the clogs on the end of the bed. Like, I mean, I was meticulous. Remember girl animals? Yes. Hello. I had every grandimal. I mean, I was so meticulous. So I I constantly go back to that, and that's me. Every time I'm planning my looks for the lounge or traveling, I plan at least like a two weeks or whatever in advance. Yeah. And I have my looks already ready. So then, therefore, all I gotta do is get ready. Yeah. Because the look is done. Because sometimes it's like, you know, if you don't do that, it's like 10 minutes to leave the house and you're still like what, what, what shoes. Therefore, at least wrong, wiggle room for anything. Yeah. Because I like being on time, I like being early. Yeah. And I also like to show up looking right. It's like Pat says, let's do a throwdown. That's right. Come, oh, throw down. Oh, throw it down. I miss a good throw down. A good throwdown is is incredible. Again, I'm swearing. I like to do uh oh that's what I was talking about. What were you talking about? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Throw down. Throw down. Um it always comes black to that, honey. But I love a good throw down when you're traveling. Oh, wait, what? When you're traveling, you you know, you you you throw um the limits. Sure. Yes, yes. Don't go back to the other one. I'm like, ah. Well, you could also throw down your travel parts. Absolutely. Hello. And so they work before the trip. Exactly. Well, hold duh. Hello. You've got to have an interview, honey, before we go on a trip together, honey. Hello. Yes, yes. I have to make sure everything is cohesive, especially if we're traveling together, honey. Okay, what are you wearing? What are you showing like? Exactly. Do you have a speed-o? Are you opposed to being naked on the beach? On the beach? Okay. Okay. Next. Time and real trouble. First time being in trouble. Oh. Oh my gosh. Um were you a troublemaker as a kid? No. Yeah, you're a good girl. No, I was I I was always too quiet. Now look at you, you're filthy hoar. I'm making up for lost time. I am. I am. First time I was ever in trouble, I um Oh, wait a minute. Um well, but but because school was so difficult, I would play hooky a lot. Uh-huh. But I realized that if I like ran downstairs and sort of um got to the mailbox while the mailman was there. It's like, oh, I'm I'm in that apartment, I'll take it. Right. And I would intercept, but then I think I missed and I didn't intercept. And she got you. And she got me. Mm-mm. Damn, Mama Con con. You pull the con for a minute, con. Thank you. But the con didn't last for long. God, I trouble. I was actually a good girl, but also really good at covering up. Yeah. So I don't really remember getting in trouble. You remember getting caught. Yeah, but that's it. My mother's boyfriend at the time was a different story, but my mother, I was, you know, I was an angel. Yes. Still among it. Okay. Um, dream career as a kid. Dream career as a kid. I wanted to be a psychiatrist. Ooh, I feel like you kind of are in that outfit. Oh, thank you. Lie down. And spread your legs. Oh, sorry. Oh, that's a big therapist. Oh my god. I can't help it. That's a bad therapist. No therapist. Ah, that's a good therapist. It's good for the therapist. It's bad for the patient. Well, it's a good thing. Okay. Put the sphinxter in the What? You put your finger in my sphinxster. God damn you fucking Sherry Weinstein. I swear to God, that song, I will only ever hear that, right? Wait, what song? You put your finger. I said that's all I know. You put your finger in my sphinxster. In my spinster? It's a song, but it's. But what but what song is she parodying? Corn. Corn? Corn. Oh, horn. Corn? Where did you eat corn? Horn.

unknown 21:08

Torn.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

Torn. Torn? Oh, torn. Oh, torn. I think you said horn.

unknown 21:12

Torn.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Torn. She torn the horn in the corn. Horn. And how does the corn get to the sphincter? Oh. Oh. Yeah. Wait, we went all over the place with that one. Okay. Yeah, that's the song, if you know it. But anyway, Sherry ruined it for me, honey, as she did for every parody, honey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anytime. Anytime. And bunny. And bunny. Petal lettuce. Hello. Hello. And Barlajean. Come on, the grapes. Yes. Oh. They have spoiled pop music. Spoiled. Because, like, you know, you're you're all um you hear you hear the song and you know the words, but then they The haunting. They haunt. And then it's just like hello. And then everybody's looking at you like you lie. Because why are you laughing? These clowns got in our head. Thank you. First it was weird Al Yankovic, and then it was these queens. Hello. Ugh. And we wonder why we're all so messed up. The best kind. Um, what was mine? My I wanted to be me. Really? I wanted to be me because I was playing with my Barbies. Uh-huh. And I wanted to be in entertainment, you know. I I, you know, as a child, you know, I was doing commercials. So I knew that entertainment was where I wanted to be. Oh, gorgeous. So, so um, so your you um put your dreams out there. I did. And and and your dreams came came true. They did. I played with it. I was playing with my Barbies, putting their looks together, and giving scenarios, and all my girlfriends would be like, you put the best stories together. And then I'm looking back and I'm like, I kind of drew out my life. Yeah. Like the stories that I was manifesting in playtime, I've lived out and I'm doing now as a Malibu Lina Barbie. From your mouth to God's ears. What about my mouth? Oh, mouth of God. Who Jesus can get it, honey. Oh, Jesus can get it. Jesus can get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially when when did they make them all like buff? Oh, honey, he's all on the cross and suffering. There was one of my grandparents. I'm like, and then nailed up on the cross with that loincloth on the colour. I believe I just did that. I'm hanging around you tonight. I know, and I love you for it. My gosh, continue taking the nails out with my teeth. Okay, sorry. Oh my god, Aunt Jesus! Oh, that'd be hot. What was the first album? First album, cassette or a track or CD. B52s. Yes. Album? Album. Okay. That that was the first album that I bought. Yellow. Yellow color. The first album. That's the first album. The first album. And then um Self-titled. Yes, B-52s. Oh, hello, Smith. Then I think I bought um the 45 of Grace Jones. I can't remember which one it was. I mean, it's Grace Jones. Yeah. Um, um, um, um Pull up to the Bummer. Oh, come on now. Hello. Okay. Hello? My first um album album was uh Ben, Michael Jackson.

unknown 24:40

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

I was obsessed with that album. Yeah. And him and that little was it the rat or the thing? Yeah. Ben. Oh god, so beautiful. And then my first um uh track was uh uh We were listening to them earlier uh with my beautiful um Palm Olive um producer, uh B uh the uh uh The Bee Gees. The Bee Gees? The Bee Gees Um Saturday Night Fever or before? No, first album. First album. First album, yeah. I remember they were in blue, I think. Um um this blue album. They were still in Australia. Yeah, they were still in Australia, yeah. Okay, but and they were trying to be sort of the the the answer to the Beatles in Australia. In Australia. And they were turning it in their own. Oh my gosh, gorgeous. Gorgeous. Uh first uh C D. First uh 45 was Donna Summer. And then uh first C C D was Depeche Mode. Yeah not Donna is Dumber and Depressed Mold. Thank you. Yeah, and then I mean hello. Hello, okay. Um, first celebrity crush. Well, you kind of said yours. Yeah, I didn't. I'll do mine because he was just everything to me, leaf leaf Garrett. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Um, first uh heartbreak. First heartbreak. Oh my gosh. That was spent some money. Um first heartbreak. I guess it was um this guy that I I think we only met like once or twice, and he worked in the gas station. And um say more. And um, I thought he liked me. Uh-huh. But he he was he he was just like, oh, you're you're just some like strange kid. Right, right, right. And then like said it. Yeah. You're just some strange kid. That would break a bitch's heart. Yeah. Because you're like, I think you're everything. Okay. I do anything. I dropped to my knees. Literally. And oh, okay. Um, mine was a um of um, he was a VJ on a radio station. Oh my god. And I used to call in because I loved his voice. I didn't know what he looked like, uh-huh, but I loved his voice. And I would call in and we would literally had a relationship. Oh my god. And so he lived in a he I can't remember where uh where the radio station was, but I remember one time I walked by and I felt like he was gonna know it was me, but he would never know. Yeah. And I walked by the window and I saw him, I was like, oh my god, he's so hot. I was like, oh my god. And but then I was like, you know, I couldn't tell him anything. So I literally ended up breaking myself because I couldn't tell him that I had a crush on him. Yeah. Yeah. But that's usually how how that first sort of thing goes because it's all in your life. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. And and it's unrequited. Right, exactly. All right, first concert. First concert, um Sting. Ooh. Sting and Katrina and the White. Mark, I love that. What year? Um 83-ish, 84. Okay. Oh, fuck. I mean, I I mean, I have all my ticket subs. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. The Mighty Sparrow. Really? Was what what was my very first concert. Wow. The Mighty Sparrow. Calypso. Oh my god. Yes. Holy shit, that's good. And and I think it was um at Madison Square Garden. Was it? Yeah, I think so. That's fierce. Um, mine was I'm a classic rock chick, as you know. Um, I think it was it was either Boston, it was someone on that vibe. I think it was, I think it was, I want to say Boston. Uh-huh. Yeah, I loved Boston. Um, yeah. I think we got time for another. Okay. Uh, first fight. First fight, it was with this girl in the fourth grade. Oh, damn those bitches. Um and like, you know, the misgendering was uh that that was just how it was. Uh huh. Uh-huh. And I had had enough. And I snapped back at her. And she was like, I'll meet you outside, and I'll like, I'll be outside. Come on now. And um, and even though most of the kids hated me in the class, they they um and some of them were her friends, but she was a loudmouth. Uh-huh. So they were kind of glad she was getting it. Yeah. Yeah. And and they were like, listen, let her have it. You better whoop her ass. Work, work. I love that. You know that I know that you know that we don't like you. Exactly. You better whoop that bitch's ass. And I did. I'm gonna rip her to shreds. Yes, mama. I did. That that was that was my first fight. Oh, that's good. When was yours? Um, well, there was many that uh well, they're not not many, but there was one that I remember not uh responding back to, uh-huh, then there's one that I remember going in. I remember the first time I remember feeling a punch in my direction was uh pepper alley. Uh-huh. And uh this one boy could not take me. He could not take me. He hated that I was popular, he hated my fashion, he hated everything about me. And he never understood why I was popular. I'm like, are you blind? Okay. First of all, can you feel the vibe? Yeah, exactly. So I took it, you know, uh, into my head that he's obviously got a stigma and he's retarded. Yes. Okay. Sorry. Can we say we can because we were coming from a good place, honey? Yeah, hello. Okay, okay. Uh so I I was like, he punched me in my stomach. Well, first of all, he went like this, and then he did one of those sucker moves, like this or whatever, and punched me, and all my friends were like this, they're like, what the fuck, dude? Like this or whatever. And it was so hard, I will never forget that punch. And I remember then he walked away, and I was like, but then, fast forward to the first time I remember having a throw-down fight. It was um at makeup room at Webster Hall. And we, you know how we used to pump and do the runway upstairs. This party used to host back at Webster Hall back in the day. So this is like '92, '93. Uh-huh. And I was, I remember we were all in lingerie with some theme we had that evening. And, you know, then downstairs was all bridge and tunnel. Yes. But I remember one time this, you know, big buff guy and his girlfriend pumped through the runway as we were doing runway. Yeah. And I remember I had red on. I had a red um uh leather brawn panty with like this like sheer puffy thing over top of it, and red stiletto pumps on. He pushed me out of the way as I was turning around, going to get ready to go back down the runway, and pushed me where I went like this. And I was like, oh no, honey, I did not even think. I went like this. I jumped and tackled him to the ground, turned him over, and the security guards were like, I'm like, no, no, no, I got this. I moved the girlfriend out of the way. I took my mule off. Remember those uh the Elsinitas? Yes. It was the platform. Yes, the platform one, the red ones. And I clipped off the back ones because remember they had the strap. Yes. But I did it so they were a mule, because I've always loved a mule. Yeah. And I took my mule off and I and I had him around the neck, my my hand around his neck, and then I took my mule and I stuck it up his nose. I was like, you will never come up in here and disrespect a woman again. And then I said, take out the trash. And I was like, I felt so vindicated. Totally. And I was in lingerie. Yeah. It was so hot. Very Wonder Woman. Very, very wonder woman. That was it. Thank you. Listen, we don't condone violence. This is a different time. But it can always be the time. Hello. If you need to come there, let's do this. Hold on, hold on. Don't you don't come for me. I didn't send for you. That's the truth, Ruth. Oops, oops. Oh my god, come on, come on. This is a wrap. Oh. I love a lettuce wrap. Well, we'll be back later. Yes, we will. We'll be back later. With more high-inks and kikis? Hello. Sending you blessings, love and light, and always some brown sugar kisses. What you got, girl? I got some lovin' for sugar dumpling babies. Babies. And some chocolate kisses. Honeysuckle. You always make me hungry with your sign out. I love it. I know. Eat the rich. Deuces. Deuces, bitches. Like, subscribe. We'll see you then. Bye y'all. Our show is produced by Josh Rosenspan and Matthew Breen. Our gorgeous graphics are by Daryl Raymond. Our theme music is You Need It. Produced and written and performed by 808 Beach, John J.C. Carr, and Bill Coleman. Courtesy of Peace Biscuit. Our perfect production designer is Daryl Dickens. This season's hair has been done by the heavenly hair goddess herself, Mariah. Our very special thanks to Jason Canner for all your wonderful support. The cutting up is a Pride House Media production.