Joey Arias Unfiltered: Nightlife, Mugler & a Legendary Downtown Life

This week on The Cutting Up, Connie and I are kiki‑ing in Washington Heights like it’s a downtown séance — and our guest? Only a living, breathing piece of NYC nightlife history: the one and only Joey Arias.

Yes. That Joey Arias.

Performance art legend. Mugler muse. Warhol era mischief-maker. Billie Holiday channeler. Downtown royalty.

We kick off doing what we do best: manifesting peace on earth, success, spiritual elevation… and obviously a hot man. Priorities.

From there? Chaos. Glamour. History.

Joey and I reminisce about decades of friendship, fashion, and the golden age of New York City nightlife — when the clubs were dangerous, the looks were illegal, and everyone was either famous or about to be. We talk Mugler, Montreal nights, downtown club kid origins, and the kind of stories you cannot Google.

And then — because icons don’t retire — Joey drops updates:

• A book  coming
• A documentary is in progress
• And his album “Past Present Future” is on Spotify, born from intense studio sessions that were equal parts magic and madness

We also get real.

Joey opens up about his sobriety journey after an intervention and detox — and how recovery reshaped his body, mind, and art. We talk reinvention, weight loss, body procedures, maturity, dating standards (they’re high, darling), and what it means to survive yourself.

And because this is Joey Arias, the conversation floats effortlessly into:

• Higher consciousness
• Politics and energy
• Past lives and ghosts
• Curses (yes, curses)
• Spiritual awakenings
• Channeling Billie Holiday
• Stories about Andy Warhol, Paul Mooney, Keith Haring
• And an unearthed Basquiat found in a closet like it’s casual

This episode is part New York nightlife documentary, part spiritual fishbowl, part fast-food-fueled kiki, and fully unfiltered.

If you love:

• Joey Arias
• Downtown NYC legends
• Fashion history and Mugler
• LGBTQ nightlife culture
• Sobriety and reinvention stories
• Art world icons like Basquiat and Warhol
• Billie Holiday energy
• Or just wildly glamorous storytelling

Welcome to the coven.

Light a candle. Manifest something reckless. And press play.

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The Cutting Up: A Kiki with Connie & Lina is a Pride House Media production.

Producers: Josh Rosenzweig & Matthew Breen.

Graphic Design by Daryl Raymond.

Original Music by 808 BEACH (John “J-C” Carr & Bill Coleman), courtesy of Peace Bisquit. 

 Production Design by Darryl Dickens. 

Our very special thanks to Jason Kanner for all your support.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

You're gonna get it, honey. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_03 0:03

It's time for the cutting up a Kiki with Connie and Lena.

SPEAKER_02 0:08

This is your backstage pass to all the dish fish. And that's the truth, Ruth. Come on now. Get into it.

SPEAKER_03 0:16

Ow! Oh my god, Joey Harriet!

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Oh my god, here we are! Oh my god, it's some of the Trans Europe Express. Here we are, where the Bronx or where? Washington hides?

SPEAKER_03 0:30

And it stops in the Bronx. It's a fashion coven.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Look at us. I got the fire.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

You're a witch. Exactly, but let's conjure something.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

What do we want to conjure for the new year? Everybody out there, hold our hands in the TV. Hold it.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

And conjure, conjure.

SPEAKER_03 0:45

Hold the cock, hold whatever. But what do you want to conjure? What do you want attention do you want to put up for the new year?

SPEAKER_01 0:50

With the new year, I want to be good and make people happy and make a lot of money. Gorgeous.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Thank you, thank you. I want to have peace on earth. Yes. And a hot man.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

In my bed.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

Constantly. Be specific, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

With friends. Okay. With lots of beds.

SPEAKER_03 1:13

And how much does he weigh?

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Well, he's 6'5, so he should be around 195, 200.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Do you like it big or do you like it small? Be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

What big and what small?

SPEAKER_01 1:28

You know what I'm talking about, bitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Oh, um, I like I I um I like girth.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

Okay, that's what it's like a harmonica.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:36

Okay. Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Something that I could wrap my.

SPEAKER_03 1:39

And I just want a tuna fish sandwich.

SPEAKER_01 1:43

That makes it smell.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

Um I I would I will um piggyback on Peace on Earth and also um a good man.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:52

And um uh wonderful career for all of my friends and family. Yes. Thank you. Right, exactly. We're on the same page, same. Peace on earth. Exactly. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

From from our mouth to God's ears. Not her mouth.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

It's a beautiful mouth. It's been everywhere in the world and you live in the talking about it's like Visa, everywhere you want to be. It's like Con Edison, you're gonna plug in.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

Oh. And it's on autopay.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

No credit cards. None needed.

SPEAKER_03 2:23

Wipe that ass, yeah. Wipe that ass.

SPEAKER_01 2:25

99 bucks B Lane. Round the corner's worth of fudges, that's what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

Joey, around the corner worth of fudges, man?

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Jimmy, where did we when did we start that? This has been, we've been doing this forever.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

We've been at least 20 years, at least probably.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

No, over 20 years.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Is that what it is? Yeah. We were at the gym working out and we were both kicking. We were both kikiing about but up. Is that the magic word of the day? Kiki. Thanks, Pee-wee. And so we were like, as we were talking, you know, just kicking and she's on the treadmill. And the treadmill. And I said, you know, she said something to me. I went, 99 Bump V Lane. She went, what? And I'm around the corner fudges made. And we're OWH! And kept going all the time.

SPEAKER_03 3:06

And it's just become this thing every time we start talking, honey. Boom. She's like, what you doing 99 Bump V Lane? And I'm like, I don't know, around the corner, where the fudges made.

SPEAKER_01 3:16

But I remember meeting Lena when we were uh I didn't know who she was. We were going to a gig in Boston or something.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Yeah, it was the fuck NYC parties.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

Or was it Montreal or was it Boston? Was it Boston? Maybe whatever. Oh, it was Montreal.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

It was Montreal. And we drove up there, and they said, I knew everybody except there's a new person named Lena. Lena. And so I was like, who is she? I was kind of like curious about her. I wasn't, you know, it was keeping my distance a little bit. Somehow we were in the same room, I think. We were. And also just like started happening. I said, we would start laughing and came out. And then we did the party. It was so kissing. It was snowing. It was cold. Yes. And we came back to we all kind of like you got to chill out and relax. I think we did a bump and we got back.

SPEAKER_03 3:55

Yes, she did.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Oh yeah. Yes, she did. Yes, she did.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

I bumped her off the bed.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

I thought you knew we bumped out. Bumped around the corner of Funches. And so, and then we're gonna chill out. And she goes, Girl, this is the other part. She would go out and I said, We're leaving in a couple hours. She goes, Come on. And she all said she took her clothes, she wore a bathing suit, pigtails, and his big platform. And we got she got completely dressed, and we got up, and then we went out again. And there, I never forget you were like, everyone's dancing, and you're doing cartwheels. And people were like, Who is this person? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 4:27

And I used to live in Montreal, so I had a little hookup there, so I was like, let's go out, go a bit. You were incredible.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

And paint the town rouge.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

And then you also go the boy bar, beauty's and a mugler saw you. And then they said you know you're like the first that woman doing the runway. And it was and a mugler was like loving. He's a to La Cotnie guy, look at the body of La Cotica. She's so fantastic, but look at the runway. She makes it good, she listens to me. And I said, How about me? He goes, and you, you're clay. I squeeze you in the way I want. And so but no, you were just like my body. I think you got him when you were standing still, you're doing cartwheels on over just in one position, and that that blew his mind. He went, I got a hurt.

SPEAKER_03 5:14

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Because we first um we first well I knew of you because it this is not a term that I hate now that's being thrown around. Okay. But when you say icon and legendary, this is when it means something voila.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Yeah. You know what? Yeah. But I hear that, you know, I always think of myself as just Joey. Yeah. People go to your legendary Joey, and it's like, I feel like it's kind of thank you. I I I know it all, but it's kind of the past. Yeah, present, and we're and we're and we're growing and we've got things to show and more things to do. We're showing love to the city. That's right. We're not done. We're not done. We're still gonna tell people I want to be at least 200 years old. Hello.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

You know, and you're 150 now, so you're doing great.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

Who told you? Oh, because I'm far, I'm not far behind you, honey. Wait, but look, don't look behind my ears, girl. And so I don't know, so but uh I think there's a lot for us to do, and and but we do that legendary thing. I I know I look and I crack up, but and I don't really walk around going, do you know who I am? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 6:17

But you know what, when it comes from your peers, yes, it's different. But from I get it from other people, I feel the same way. I'm like, baby, I'm still relevant, I'm still popping off and doing it. But when you hear from your brothers and sisters, that's when for me it means something. Because, like you said, it gets taken out of content so often. Iconic, legendary. I'm like, please just don't use those words in front of me. Right. You've ruined it.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

Right, exactly. Because in the days when we were doing our thing, you just didn't. You were fierce, yeah. I was at Fiorucci. Then I was downtown. I was at East Side. I was going to Regine well on one day, and the next day I was going to some rotten club of the East Village. Yeah. And then the meeting Klaus and Katie and this one, and John and Kenny and Keith, and Basford.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

David Bowie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Well, that happened, yeah, that and Bowie's. So as company seven we're doing our thing, playing. Also, Klaus and I were the first ones to blow. Yes. And everyone was like, oh my god. And the East Village, look what these two are like we're showing off.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

And showcased by that. And here we are. And so it just kept going, but just keep looking to do the next gig, the next gig. What are we gonna do? What are we gonna do? And here we are, and and years later, here we are sitting all together. Because I'm very proud of all of them. Look at I'm look my two legendary sisters. I can cry because look at all I know. You've gotten older.

SPEAKER_03 7:29

I I agree. I look at you and fantastic. Thank you, sister. I feel the same way. Beautiful. Thank you, Mama. Thank you. You two baby.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Evolving like a fine wine. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 7:38

Oh, you are evolving like a fine wine. I think that's when we're younger, we're so hungry and thirsty. Where we're it it you you see it when I look back at old photos, I can appreciate it, but I was still trying to get to a place. But when you get to this wonderful sp place of maturity and not sweating the bullshit, there becomes this essence that just starts to bloom.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Right. Exactly. And you've done that. I mean, when you made your scene in New York, you took over. I mean, everybody wanted it to be Lena. They were all doing the kiki, the oolalas, and they were all doing everyone to the Lena dance. I remember when Paris and even Mugler goes like, oh my god, look at La Look at La Lina. Look at look at La Lina. Oh my god, he was so blown away. We had so much fun. We did. But um and and but the temperature that we live in now is so hardcore. People are so depressed about what's going on with this orange thing in the white and the white. And I I tell people, I just don't pay attention. Because I'm paying attention to which you can work out. And what I'm looking at, who's inspiring each other. That's right. And that's what we have to do. And we're gonna give that energy, that's right, show people the beauty of life. Instead of pay attention to this weird political thing that they're hammering on TV. Right, exactly. And this and that man is not going to finish this term. No. He can't there's something in the energy in the in the universe because it's about higher consciousness. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 9:01

And it also needed to happen. We need to wake up this country. We have to remember we're still one of the youngest countries in this world. Right. And we're the most fucked up. Right. 250 years. That's it. And we still haven't gotten it right.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

I remember George Washington.

SPEAKER_04 9:14

Hello!

SPEAKER_01 9:15

I made him enchiladas. And let me tell you, he was cut. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:21

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

On the wrist.

SPEAKER_03 9:23

And Lincoln was my father.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

And Betsy Johnson was her mother. And Betsy Johnson was her mother.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

My cartwheeling mom. That's right, hello. She knitted all her bikinis.

unknown 9:37

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

How about Cotex? What? Do you know what cotex? I should make fun about Suzanne going, Suzanne, you got the she's the queen of the blood, the cotex. She goes, Choice, stop talking about the cotex. People don't know it's gone. You're aging yourself talking about the cortex. And I said, bitch, I said, Cotex is.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

It is now the cup.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

It's now the cup. But I was in Mexico and Pancakes is here right now. Baby Jane from Berlin. And as we were in Mexico, Pancakes go, we were in a pharmacy. He goes, Look there. And I looked it up, there's a whole section with co-tex. So I bought cotex. So I wrapped it and I was doing a show and I said it to Suzanne. And everyone was watching her. And I said, Open that present. She's like, What is it? She opened it up and she was screaming. She goes, She found the cortex. She was like, So what? So what do you use it for? I said, I cut them in half because it's the makeup wipes. What? Well, because it's a saddle. Yes, exactly. It was a saddle. You peeled it off and you put it in your panties and sat on it. That's right. Right? And but you can actually use it. I should bring co-text free.

SPEAKER_03 10:36

Reading rainbow, the more you learn. Like I felt like me Blair was here a second ago, and then I felt like Suzanne was here a minute.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Because I listen to Vibati all the time.

SPEAKER_03 10:57

So, Joey, um, I heard that you're bringing back um uh uh Joey with a twist with Basil twist.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

Aries with a twist? Aries with a twist. Who took it? It's supposed to be a big secret.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

I don't know. What I have ESPN, you know.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

I thought you had STDs.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Uh oh. No, that's you, Blanche. Oh my baby Jane.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

Oh, that baby J's over here. I can't believe I'm in between the both. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Oh my god. But we're screaming, we can do the kiki, and you're the cut-up.

SPEAKER_03 11:25

We're the kicking. That's the cut-up, honey. Hello.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

So no, so uh for about two years, it was kind of people were tossing it around, and people were going, You guys should do it again. Basil, and we're like, oh, show uh and it started to become a reality. So there've been fundraisers and they're raising the money, and it's booked, and it we start rehearsals. Ooh, in the July or July. And in August, it's full on, and then uh pre previews in September. Do you know where you're doing it? Back at the Here Theater.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Oh, gorgeous! You're here beautiful. I missed it. Oh, yeah, with everything. I missed it. I loved it.

SPEAKER_03 12:00

He can turn a puppet out like nobody's. He did the puppet once for me when I used to do swirl. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah, I have to find the video. Oh my god. My basil's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

Well, it's a whole stage, it's called puppetry. So the whole stage is alive. Like the jungle's taking me, the flowers are opening up being wrapped in vines, snakes are in there, even the things are moving, but flowers are pop, and people are just like, What's going on here? I'm on a spaceship, I'm on an acid trip. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

Inside your brain.

SPEAKER_01 12:23

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Totally. Hello. Well, you know, it's uh it is like my brain. Yeah, but so we're gonna be doing that. I beg your pardon. I don't do the drugs. I you know, I've I've been sober for eight over eight years now. Okay, I had to, you know, after a while, I partied, I did everything. I did, and at some point it was kind of like it was gonna bring me down. And I saw it and I knew it, and I thought, I'm not gonna go there. And Kim Hasrider did an intervention with about 35 people and they sent me away to get detoxed because I was doing 30 oxycotton a day.

SPEAKER_03 12:57

Oh my god. Joey, let me let me just say something. It wasn't you, it was Justine. Oh Justine, that bitch was fierce.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

Yes, honey.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

That was my tourist synthetomy's kitten activity on the room.

SPEAKER_03 13:10

She was every red hair, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Bigger booties that to check her out. She was on fire.

SPEAKER_03 13:15

Good for you, Joey. Good for you, honey. Good for you.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

Justine, everyone, yeah. No, I just had to stop it. Yeah. Because I was I I thought either I'm gonna die, which I would have died, and or I said I needed anyway. I knew I wanted out. Kim got the intervention. I got three weeks of interven uh detox and it put me to rehab, which is like it was kind of going to like a holiday camp for the retarded people.

SPEAKER_04 13:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

I mean, I you know, I just thought it was crazy. I mean, the people that were sitting there, and I just sat there the whole time like this.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

You're like, God damn, thank God I'm not on drugs.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

Right? I mean and they were like, I'm talking about I'm gonna be clean, and then when I was like four years old, I started doing drugs. And I was like, I only did one year of like being crazy. And so I I started talking about the um they said, but and God, and God this I said, do you know who God is? And they're like, Yeah, he's up there. I said, Where? And I said, Well, that clatter floats by. I said, I said, How about the Anunnaki? How about the other civilizations, those who come from the the down to earth who with uh recycled our bodies and and uh uh all the intervention with the human race? They were like like I was the I lost them. So I thought, I'm not gonna talk anymore. So just sat there for three months the whole time. I didn't say a word, I didn't sing a note, and so who are you? And so just Joey, I just talked like that. And it'd be in my review.

SPEAKER_03 14:31

I think also kind of being mirrored in front of all of that helped you kind of get your shit together, right? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

Because you are already on a hundred and with and an artist, you know, exactly. And so we're already on a different frequency, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

As we are, yeah, yeah. So I just had to come back and be with my good for you, yeah. With my power system, my tribe, definitely for sure. That's right. And uh yeah, so I just came back and found myself and got it together, and I had to go through all these procedures. I lose like 300 pounds. You look amazing. But I got a doctor who's so fucking great. He says, Come here, do something, chop me up, took like 95 pounds off my body, sucked it, chopped it, and then did some more things and procedures to get me back to and Ozapic. So now it's like all like snatched, honey.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

Beautiful mama.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

Look at you ladies. Every time I look at you, I say, What are these girls doing? There's something so fabulous about them. More beautiful than ever. I love when she's doing the Kiki Walk before doing the DJ. I thought she'd go, What is the week's look? And like, okay. I'm like, I said, wait a minute, how did her hair grow so fast?

SPEAKER_03 15:37

Oh like the Chrissy doll.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

It's like unscrew it, put it on the way.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

No, but beautiful. Look at my. I mean, people look at these two beautiful ladies here on this TV show. It's incredible. The kiki, the cut-up, these are the kiki and the cut-up.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

Jimmy, you can sell Tupperware, honey.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

Oh, but I do have Tupperware, but I stopped eating food now.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

Hello. Because on Ozambic, you you have like two bites and then you're totally sick. NASA's got no calories. Right, exactly. Allegedly.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Well, I don't know about that one.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

I know about the Cat doesn't have calories.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

That's the one I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

This filled.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

It's like one of those things like it's kind of like meat and potatoes.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

I love this episode so much. I'm finally not the nastiest one on. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

Meat and potatoes is my friend. There's somebody I do see. I should have mentioned his name on who I do see every so often. Who? Jonah Falcon. Oh my, here comes it like every every every month. What's a month he'll call me? Hey, what are you doing now? It's like, I'm gonna be in Bobby. He goes, Can I see you? Pops over. He's got this thing that hangs down to his knees.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

It's like wait a minute. I I I uh what was he on stage with you at Joe's place? Yes. Yeah, you know him personally?

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Hello. And you know his friend personally? Oh yes.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

Oh yes. And talking about, and that was soft. You should see where that thing is. Uh yes. And when it gets massaged, it smiles. Allegedly. Oh, right. That allegedly.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

It has its own zip code.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

Purposely.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Mayanna, my Anna, my Anna kinda dog.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

The Amazon is here, baby. But holy river up and down, sliding it, mundane. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Why, Jesus. But you know what? Now I'm thinking about it.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

I'm thinking about all the discos I've been to. New York when I first come to New York in 76, I went to every fucking club in New York City. Every single one month, I went like every night to everything, everything that was.

SPEAKER_03 17:41

But the thing is that there were four or five things to do back in the day. Yes. Xenons, Danceteria, Crosstown.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

You named it. But you never do this 12 West or 12 West, yes, exactly. I think they're 12 West all the time. That was like the first kid. And I was like so young. I was like 18 or 19. I was like, 12, but they never asked for ID. Yeah. But then when the kid in LA growing up, I used to stick in the whiskey of go-go at 13 or 14.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

I forget that you have that LA situation. You're such a New Yorker to me. I am a New Yorker. I know. But I'm just saying, like, when you remind me of that, I always forget that you had an LA situation.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

Well, I'm originally from Fayetteville or Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I'm an armor child. So that's where I started. That's where I landed from the from the Anunnaki brought me, dropped me off in Fayetteville at Fort Bright. And so they left me with these two people, and then they abducted me. These two people abducted me, took me to LA at six years old. I thought, what am I doing here? I was already like questioning, and the nuns were going, Are you okay? I said, I don't belong here. I have to go back east and go, why? I said, I'd have to be with my people. So, what people said, I have to be with my people to help them pick cotton. And people like, they called my mother, said, You need to deal with this child. He wants to go back to North Carolina and pick cotton with his people. You're like, exactly. Down by the river. And so I grew up like that. So I was like already like at six, seven years old, already having sex with my schoolmates. I was already like sexual.

SPEAKER_04 19:05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Crazy. And another I got busted. I used to bleach my hair red and choosed my eyebrows at eight years old. And another one was like, uh-huh. So they knew what the story was. That's right. So um, yeah. So I used to uh sneak into clubs with my friends like were like Miss Mercy, uh Pamela DuBars, uh Marcia, but Tony Freyer, Louis McKay Jr., the steps in a Billy Holiday, Sylvester, my first Sylvester was Sylvester, and all these other people, and we go into Whiskey Gog, and they're like, there's a brand new band from England that's gonna play here, and we're like, and their name is Led Zeppelin.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

That's my favorite band of all time. Led Zeppelin, right? That's yeah, I'm a Zeppelin card.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

And then another band, but cream, and we're like cream. And then we go back to the rights for that voice. Boom! Give it a rice. Oh my god. So that was kind of like my childhood. It didn't be a groundling, an improvement, you know, with Raineman, and the uh and the people that followed me were like Phil Hartman, uh Varra, Phil. Damn it, feet Pee Wee. So it just goes on and on. It's like this crazy life I've had.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

And we're not done.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

You know, and so when I came to New York, I chopped that whole life off and reinvented myself to find my tribe. Wow, yeah. That was true, you know, I never talked about that. So that people only know me from New York. Right. So you're a New Yorker. Of course I'm a New Yorker. Yeah. I wanted to be in New York. When I got here, I thought, whatever New York wants me to do, I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 20:31

And I had a way of speaking to you. Yes, especially back in the day. There's so many amazing talents and artists. Totally. And we were all, like you said, a tribe, just finding our way together. Right?

SPEAKER_01 20:42

And becoming the fabric of New York, which is the beauty of New York City. And people like, well, I had to move away. I couldn't deal with it anymore. I said, Well, it wasn't for you. Yeah, New York is dead. It's a New York is not dead, they call it New York. Thank you. New York dead.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Exactly. Always reinvent.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

Yeah, always. It's an interpretation of you and what you bring to the table. Yeah, right. If you're looking around at everybody else and stuff, you're not gonna get it.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

Right, exactly. And look at reinvention, we're here. I know, right? No, it's true. Look at the beauties. I know my god. I'm looking at both of you, I'm like, I can't believe I'm sitting here with these two fucking bitches from the Trans Europe Express. Joe! Right, exactly. And it's a first-class hotel. Hey!

SPEAKER_03 21:23

But Joey, there's a book in you. There's there's a few books in you.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Well, actually, I just got a book deal with Skull Press. And we're working on it right now, but they don't need to do the 10-year decade. You can't do like 85, 90 years. Yeah, yeah. So don't only 10 years. 76 to 84, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 21:40

Amazing. It comes in installments.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

And then the documentary is being mailed for the last four years being shot also.

SPEAKER_03 21:45

Shall we?

SPEAKER_01 21:46

I know it's crazy. I didn't I didn't want any of this at all.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

No, but it has to happen. But I kept saying, why?

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Why does why do you want I no? Seriously, I questioned it. I always tell people, why do you want this? Because I didn't want the documentary, I didn't want the book. They're going, We have to have it. Because you gotta teach people why why how people ask questions like, How did you become who you are? And what and I tell people, it's a hard life. You know, you you know you gotta kill yourself to be where we're at. Even now it's still like pushing and fighting and late.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

But that's what keeps us going, right? Exactly. The fire's there. Like if you you you give up your dream, you die. No, exactly. Like I'll never forget that. And it is so true every day. I love to fight for my meals.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Right, exactly. That's true.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

You have to. And the world needs your story. Yes, absolutely. Because your story goes through decades, your story goes through um really super difficult times, and it teaches us that you can stand up. That's right, and that he can fight, and that you are here and you matter.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

That's right. Right. No, it's true. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

And you can't and you can't be like put away or or sort of like discounted because of who you are. That's right. Or who you are is your art. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

Right, exactly. And then it gets greater later, honey. Right. Yes. I mean, come on. I first of all, I love maturity. Maturity is everything. I would never want to go back to being that young girl out on you know the scene or whatever. I loved it, but I love where I'm at right now. I love wisdom, and I love also not sweating the bullshit. Yeah. I care too much to a fault.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

Right? I mean, when you get to that certain age and and you st you see it, you just know how to chop the crap top.

SPEAKER_03 23:33

Yes, and the white noise, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

And you talked about having boyfriends, boyfriends. You know, I I kind of just ended a relationship and I thought, you know what? I I'm it's too much. I need to be like focused. Yes. Like a rocket ship.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

That's right. Like literally, we're just talking about it.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

You gotta go faster and smoother. Because I mean, I love puppy with a guy, but then you it's like you gotta deal with the personality.

SPEAKER_03 23:53

Unless you and also they want to sometimes dim your shine. Yeah, so you gotta step up and be fierce. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

No, it's true. So I I just figured it's like I just can't. I just can't go there anymore. Yeah. If somebody wants to take me on a date, I don't mind if they want to take me to dinner, I want to get later.

SPEAKER_03 24:08

But you gotta step up fierce, honey, if you want to date us. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Come on, we're fear we are the prize. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

You can't take us to Mickey D. No, honey. No.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

No. No. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

I I get my own fries.

SPEAKER_03 24:21

Okay. And my own shake. Should. Right, I could have. But I can shake him. But look at you ladies. Look at those legs. Grease them up, honey. I'm gonna let them fly. Right?

SPEAKER_02 24:34

Grease us is butter.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Oh, but I would but I would know where the biscuit is at.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

Oh, oh, the biscuit's right here. So uh book, uh movie documentary. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

It's just it's been so crazy, but it's been so easy. The people are working with me. Uh uh, Zachary McMillan, Zach, who's my producer, and he just stands there and goes, I want this to happen. We can do the album, we can do the videos.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

It just happens album cord.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Yeah, it's on Spotify, it's called Past, Present, Future. Word all original material. And we did the recordings in Minneapolis for three weeks in a beautiful recording studio.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

Oh and it was a fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

I mean, it's like the food was like four seasons every night. So they had like people in tuxedos, like I was like, what the food for four seasons, like for dinner. They had a long table, like as it should be. That's how you can ask. That's what we were. We had a musseuse, a steam route.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

I mean, I was like, Oh, this is fabulous.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

And then they record for hours with the band. You know, it was like incredible. With a live band, yeah, you just felt a lot, so that's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

You got to really connect.

SPEAKER_01 25:45

Yes, yeah, yeah. So I had Elliot, my piano player where I work with it.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

Which is your element.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

Yeah, so he he said, I know, because they were had another band. I said, I gotta get Elliot because Elliot can read my mind.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

And so then he came in, and we're supposed to do like 10 songs. We wound up recording 30 songs. Wow, that's how fast it went. And that'd be like how me took me to Zach like after dinner, like he goes, What's that? I said he goes, I said, it's a song in my head. He goes, sing it again. He goes, let the band come in. So I kind of sang it for them and I said, This should be this beat. And Ali's play and in 20 minutes that the song was already laid out already. All right, just out of network. That's beautiful. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_03 26:22

You're in your element when you're with a band.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Yes, thank you so much, lady. But I'll dance song now. It's called tongue talk.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

Duh. Right?

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Right? That's the way it's gonna be, baby.

SPEAKER_03 26:33

Don't tell her. Yeah, she's not kind of a frog in my throat.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

You know what I'm talking about? So it's kind of it's kind of heavy metal meets like house dip music. So I want but so it's got this guitar and these kind of beats going on, and then there's like a whole rap in the middle section.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

Oh my god, Jimmy, I cannot wait to hear this. Genius, genius, genius. We'll have it up on the thing you do for y'all.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Hello.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

One, two, three.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

Oh my god, I got the clap.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

You got the clap again! Oh my god, yeah, I can't look.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

Thank God for pills.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

They got a pill for that, exactly. Hello. Not just this more. My sister needs a pill.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

And a co-text.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

And a cotex.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

I did, I was at a party and I was talking to these women that like they were all very like, oh, so what do you do? And I'm sitting there like, Well, I went on vacation. She goes, Oh, where? Is it to Mexico? She goes, I said, So these pyramids were incredible. She goes, Oh, really? What were they like? I was like, Well, there was this cra very like, you know, mm-mm.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

Above.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

And looking at me kind of like, oh, there she is. You know, I was kind of looking. And then uh I said, I saw this one pyramid. It was like this god of blood. It was so we couldn't believe you see the step on the on the steps, blood. And then she's going, Oh, that's fascinating. She who's the god? I said, I think the bot the god was called Kotec. And she's going, Kotech? I said, Yeah. And she goes, Oh my god, she was where in Mexico? I said the and the section where all the the Mayan pyramids were at. And and so she goes, Oh, and then the women are going, Oh, what are you and Joey talking about? She goes, Well, Joey's talking about this trip he did in Mexico. We saw these pyramids, and he saw the pyramid of blood with his god named Cotex, and they're going because I said Kotex and then she went, the God of Blood, Cotex, and they're going, they're going, the God of blood cotext. What pyramid is that? And it's other people were going like, what? And so they're looking at they're looking at it, they're like, You a crazy woman? So I gave it to her, like, you know, have you all that? Now you're being looking at you, right?

SPEAKER_03 28:31

You didn't realize I have you talking about co-text.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

The God of blood.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

What was the co-text of the conversation?

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Oh my god, no. This is the kinky bit.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

This is the kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

What type of dessert do you like?

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Um, you ruined me with the buttons. But seriously, if you can have dessert, what did you eat?

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Um just throw one out.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Just throw one out. And I'm gonna catch it. What? Umber sugar cake? Oh no, no, no. Um chocolate mousse. Chocolate mousse cake.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

Okay, chocolate moose.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

She called you a moose one.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Wait, you're the chocolate moose. I didn't do a mocha. Some people well, some people thought the the uh the uh the uh uh what's his name, the black comedian he passed away.

unknown 29:37

Paul Mooney.

SPEAKER_03 29:38

Paul Mocha.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

So Paul, I used to go see him because I knew people in his book, and you I I saw him, I said, I love the book. I said, I know so he looked at me like, what's that, brother? And I said, Brother, I said, take a good look at this. He goes, Yeah, you need to stand over there. Anyways, we became friends. So I'd see shows in Harlem, and uh, and then I told him I was gonna do a show at that the Abrams Theatre. It was a like I had a month uh residency. So all of a sudden the show was packed, and the band was big, and then all of a sudden I heard I said, Who up there? And she said, It's us from Harlem. Remember, you met us? We run the Apollo Theater. No, I said, I said, is the man here?

SPEAKER_02 30:16

And I went, Yeah, I'm here.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

I can't even go that low, it hurts. Oh my testosterone, my hormones, and so so he so I met him a month later, and we did strange fruit. That's what was blowing my mind. Because I thought, oh my god, he's gonna see the he's gonna probably read because he's so like pro-black and yeah, white people take you black anyway. So we were like doing that song, and I sang the shit out of it. Fuck it. And people scream about applause or whatever. Oh my god, that I got goosebumps. A month later, I'm up in Harlem at the uh the Red Rooster, huh? And it was Kim's birthday, and every celebrity was there. So I'm smoking with my my partner at the time, Wano from Scotland. We're outside, and I turned around and I heard there was somebody uh calling me the N-word, and my partner was going, Oh Chuy, this is a black man, homeless man, calling you the N-word. And I was like, What? And I I couldn't see, and I turned around, it was Paul Moody. Ah with a cat with groceries and Christina.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

I can't, I can't.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

And and I said, He goes, What you doing up here? Blah blah blah. And we were hollering, and so we walked into the restaurant, everyone's going, Paul Moody, Paul Moody. As we're going downstairs, these black people were walking. This couple of man with a took seat on a woman like a model with a feather. As he's walking by, he's going, Hello, black people. Ah and they were like, and he said, Can you do that?

SPEAKER_03 31:36

He was on a whole another game. He was so fatal.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

And so we sat at a table, he goes, I need to talk to you about some stuff. He goes, I saw I you know, I never talked to you about your show. He goes, he said this to you? Yeah, he goes, Up it blew my mind. But when you did Strange Food, he goes, I had a noose around my neck. I was being strangled by you. I was like, really? He goes, he goes, only three people should ever sing that song: Billy Holiday, Nina Simone, and Joe Harris. And that is it.

SPEAKER_03 32:02

That is a fierce homage, honey.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

I was gagging. Wow. And I said, when you see me on stage, what do you think? You know, he goes, When I was looking at you on stage, I was just looking at a light-skinned black woman.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

That's right. It's true.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Right?

SPEAKER_03 32:13

You've always given me melatrics.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Yeah, I've got a light-skinned black woman. I've got the light shade of mocha.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

And kindred spirit. Yeah, all of it. And a spirit that knows sort of the trials of life. That's right. Exactly. So it isn't on the surface. It isn't something that you're trying to get at.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

You can hear it and you can see it when people try to do it. Hard. But it's contrived, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:36

I'm one of the children. Yes. For sure. And I tell but corn.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

I thought it but I didn't.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

Yeah, we knew I had you, girls.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

We gotta butter that corn up, girl.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

Quick and I eat with my false teeth. You pop them dishes up. We're the same. I know. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

I lost my train of thought. We were talking about uh the black. The black black. We were talking about no so Alli, it's a problem with black and you know, there's Elliot and different artists that work, and you know, Allies black. Yeah, and we're talking, we started talking about racism, blah, blah, blah. And I said, you know, I look at people like an extraterrestrial. Like I'm flying through this world, I see this blue plant, this blue pearl. I get closer and I'm looking at water, I'm looking at land, then I'm seeing like people walking, uh, all kinds of people, all colors, but but I don't look at color, I look at the face, yeah. I'm looking at the just people. Who are they? Yeah, yeah. I don't think about are they black, are they Chinese or this or that? Just like people. And I look at Elliot. I said, Elliot, I look at you. I never even thought you I don't even know about color. Yeah, yeah. I'm looking at this beautiful person. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

I'm looking at people, I'm not looking at, oh, just like aura, like I see you, you're you know, if you're ugly, you're ugly, honey.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

That's it, right? Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 33:51

You have a dark aura, so that's just a bone. Yeah, you're nasty.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

You're nasty like the orange man and the white, the orange cheetah, yeah. That's that's a the it gets it's that's an ugly, ugly, mean person that is not is only looking out for themselves to enrich themselves and the family and whatever he's doing in the country because he's so mad at so many people. He's just deflection, honey. It's deflection.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

You got so much shit going on. I you know what I want to ask you, sis. I've never known what, baby. When did you realize you had that voice and that you could literally evoke the essence and the energy of Billy Holiday? Like, honestly, when I I don't I can't believe I never asked you that question.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

I was like listen, my parents always played music, and I always love you know the rock and the and then they played jazz, and one time I was sitting in the living room and music was played, and and I heard this music, and I thought, uh Joey, how old were you? Oh, maybe like 14? Okay, 13, 14. Oh my god, 13 yeah, yeah. And so I and I I kept and I heard that and went, I I want to sound like that. I want that that what that voice is.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

And that's that connection chat as well. Yeah, I knew what that is, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

And I told him, like, I didn't know who it was. I remember that. So is that? She goes, Billy Holiday. I said, Billy Holliday. She goes, here's the album girl. I was like, oh. So I started like listening to more Billy Holiday, and I kept thinking, and my voice had already had that, the rasp.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

That rasp.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

And so it just started coming out that way, you know, just channeling Billy Holiday. And I remember Andy Warhol. Someone said, Joey, sing for Andy Warhol. Like you do your Billy Holiday. So I sang good morning, heartache. And then he closed his eyes and he looked at looked at me and went, I love your new voice. That's all he said. It wasn't like, oh, Billy Holiday, I love your new voice. That's all. So we're just going to the side. He saw the future, yeah. And so I then I got the Billy voice and started to find it myself who I was. Right. And it were the pop songs, yeah. Using that and stretching her up there. So there's only one song in the set that I saw a psychic woman told me, she said, I see black energy around you. I said, excuse me. She goes, There's something black around you. Oh, I've always gotten that from you. Right. I said, Black what? She goes, When you're doing that song, there's something about she's changing, or there's something like changing that.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

I love when you sing that.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

And she said, she goes, you're and I said, she goes, it's a black, she's then she went, it's a black woman. I said, You mean the song you change? She goes, Yes. That's a song, that song. Whenever you do that song, you are right there and you really are channeling this something in you, and she loves, she gets she really gets off on you doing that. Then when you start cutting up the then she cut a ball, then it goes away. She goes, try to stay in that so she hangs around a bit longer to listen to you. She really gets a kick out, a kick out of you singing that. I thought, okay, but that was a psychic woman.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 36:39

And she told me some other weird stuff, but I'm not gonna get into that right now.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

Baby, that's beautiful. And it's true. It's very true. Yeah, it's true. What's Keith hearing earrings, honey? I know. You know Keith thing.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Well, you know, all because we were all, you know, I knew Keith before the you know, he was going to school with SV8, and he's still poetry and these silly but Diane, honey. Kenny, Kenny Sharp was uh Kenny Sharp was a painter. Yeah, Keith was like a poet, Basquet was a drug addict, yeah. But there was all these other great artists, Bruno Schmidt, and that goes on and on and on. Yeah, and so and then also, you know, it's Kenny's painting, the also the subway, Keith comes up with that weird baby and started looking at that. And it was my birthday. He walked in with a door and he goes, Happy birthday. Oh, I forgot to give you poetry. Every year you give me poetry. And then he drew on the door on both sides. I went, Thank you, Keith. And I looked at somebody up with the closet door that threw it and I said, What a bunch of crap that is.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Ah do you still have it?

SPEAKER_01 37:31

Do I still have it? Yes, I do. It was at the MOME show, the Club 57 show. So they featured it. Joey, Joey. So it's sitting at the house right now. And then I discovered one other thing that Klaus had, which I just found in the closet. I can't believe I just found. I have this three closets, and one of them is a walking closet. Yeah. That I'd never go into. It's like stuff I find every so often.

SPEAKER_03 37:52

Tales from the crib. Right? The bats come in.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

Right here. That's a crib, baby. The funky file, the fungi filo. Busting bust, busting bonds. Busting bonds.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

Oh my god, stop. So uh so I've never heard you say.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

I love my cinnamon roll.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Is that is that your favorite dessert?

SPEAKER_01 38:34

Uh no, my favorite dessert is actually uh cream cookie. No, I like uh uh I like a wooden eye. A wooden eye cock sick.

SPEAKER_03 38:54

You shouldn't take any cock. Especially if grandma makes a wait, well, you said you grab my legs, what?

SPEAKER_01 39:02

Yeah, grandma's legs.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

How dare you?

SPEAKER_01 39:07

Who you call it a hoe?

SPEAKER_03 39:09

Hoes.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

Ho grocery.

SPEAKER_03 39:12

Oh, wait, what were we talking about?

SPEAKER_01 39:13

We're talking about uh favorite dessert. So no, we're talking about uh in the closet, we're talking about panties.

SPEAKER_02 39:18

Oh yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

And so, you know, I was the exec I'm the executor of Cost Nome. Yeah, I got all the took everything I had everything about. So I put stuff away, stuff in archives, so it was a but whatever. And so I at Buhuray. And so um I found this rolled up something. I thought, what the fuck is that? In the closet for years, I guess, it had dust on it. I unraveled it, it was a basquat paint.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

Joey, goddamn you!

SPEAKER_01 39:45

As half as big as this rug.

SPEAKER_03 39:48

What? I was like bitch, you got shit up in that closet, honey.

SPEAKER_01 39:55

So I I I've got some some anyway. Because there's you know, people used to give things away to each other. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get it. You know, in the 70s, late 70s, people just like have that.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

Draw something exactly. Yeah, tell hello.

SPEAKER_01 40:06

So Klaus and Basket used to fuck all the time. I used to catch him all the time. I used to walk in the door and Klaus bending over and basket like popping.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

T, honey, tea.

SPEAKER_01 40:14

I mean, I wold tea, honey. I walked in one time, I got a I got a Fimucci earlier. When I opened the door, Klaus was bending over, and Basket was like pulling it out, somebody stuck it back in. And like, and Klaus was just like smiling, and I went, I forgot to buy the milk, and I left and left. Looked like he got the milk, yeah. And he had to take penicillar for that milk.

SPEAKER_03 40:36

Oh, every time.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

And every couple of weeks when Tows take penicillas and said, Oh, you basket that was here. Oh I caught them three times in the house. Oh, he used to come up for cookies and coffee and a good pump, a shower.

SPEAKER_03 40:50

Cookies and coffee. Right.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

Homemade, baby. You got those Eminem drops.

SPEAKER_02 41:01

Crunchy cookies and warm cream.

SPEAKER_03 41:04

Oh, is there any other way?

SPEAKER_01 41:06

So then um anyway, so I I I I freaked out, so I called some friends. They said, the estate, they said, well, the estate, you know, if if that was, you know, Basquette dropped it off for Klaus, because Klaus, I mean you hang that up in those days. It was kind of like, why you hanging this up? It's trash. You know, just rolled up and put it away, and then I had it in the room. And so uh they told me, well, you know, the sisters, you know, they already got like 3,000 paintings, they already got their mansions in the Hamptons. So they've if you know that belongs to you. Because he gave it to Klaus. So now I got some people that are gonna come over this week to officiate the the drawing. Wow. And then we and then I think we're gonna put it at an uh at auction house at bitch, bitch, bitch. At or at all.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

Well, girl, you taking us to Pombalista when you sell it, huh?

SPEAKER_01 41:54

If I call your ladies up and said, guess what? I rented a plane to go around the world for three months and all expenses pay on me.

SPEAKER_03 42:01

Let's just go to uh Olive Garden. Because when you're here, you were family.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

We're talking Olive Garden, right?

SPEAKER_02 42:07

Yeah. Shrimp scampi. Oh, I love screaming. Shrimp scamper.

SPEAKER_03 42:12

And you know I love shrimp and okay, oh girl. Let's go. Alright, so listen, before you go, we gotta do some uh fish bowls. Okay, fish bowl.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

I beg your pardon.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

Alright, so hand it to her. So shake it up and you pick a fish bowl. Shake it up and tell us your pig. What is it?

SPEAKER_01 42:33

A shark. A shark. So what am I gonna do now?

SPEAKER_03 42:37

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

Out of body experience. And we're just talking about that. About the higher evolution, the higher the the the the the what's going on with us, you know, the consciousness which we're we have to achieve to that next level. That's because that's the next set the next decades that are coming. That's why we're here where we are right now. Yeah, higher consciousness. Yeah. Because otherwise, these people like the orange and the white, yeah, there's no higher consciousness. So you gotta step over to that level.

SPEAKER_03 43:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:12

And uh, and of course, a shark would be my mascot.

SPEAKER_03 43:15

Okay. Can I just say something real quick? My um medium said to me um last January as we were going into when the orange Cheeto had come in, said that um spirituality um is going to be heightened on another level during all of this. And it seriously has been. I know for me as a shapeshifting witch, but I also know from just my other, you know, it just has beautiful. I mean, come on, no mistakes in this kid called life, so whoa.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

Because we are we are going into the age of the fem the age of the feminine.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

That's right. Yeah, that's right. I believe it's like the feminine energy, the male energy. It's like you just but the it's about the feminine energy. It's about the Amazon goddess. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 43:58

Oh, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 44:00

Last line. Thank you. This is not coming. I'm done with you two bitches.

SPEAKER_03 44:07

Is that coming with the thing? It was that thing that we did in the beginning where we were holding the hands. How did we bought it together? Hello. Hello. Everybody on TV, hold on. 99 Bumpy London. Around the corner, a rubber. I tell about the pounds.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

You people.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

Let me shake that up. You gotta shake it.

SPEAKER_03 44:30

Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

Past lives? Yeah. Um I do see sort of Egyptian ceremonial. You come back to that one often in your head? Yes. I do. I do. I do.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

Up. You?

SPEAKER_02 44:48

What past lives? Out of body experience? No, but past lives.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

Do you not think? I remember being born. Really? I went because I was wondering why I hate overhead neon light. I'm like, I can't deal with an ice cold somebody on my back. Ice cold on my back. I can't deal. I'm like always like I was, if someone puts ice on my back, I would stab you. I don't care who you are. And it would vault you back. So I was I went to sleep, but I kept thinking, why am I? So I I literally went and regressed, thinking, thinking, thinking. And I could also I felt a cold in my back and the lights. And so and people look at me going, the baby's like, you know, uh 10 pounds. Or whatever. I can hear like your baby's moving. And be screaming like you know, and I was like, and I kind of like, oh my god, I just saw myself being born. Wow. And so I and then and the ghosts that come and visit me at my place and that I've seen and like literally physically made an appearance in front of me.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:42

And so I've and my apartment, even my apartment, they move things around. It's kind of weird. Like every two months I hear something, and it's like been moved. I'm like, okay, whoever here, stop fucking with me. So the auto-body experience is like I feel like I'm some from somewhere else. Yeah. I feel like I don't belong here. I feel like that body is from somewhere else. Like of land. I feel like an extraterrestrial biological entertainer.

SPEAKER_03 46:07

A higher consciousness. Put that on your card, honey.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

That's my business, CAD.

SPEAKER_03 46:13

I love that. I I feel as if I I have them often, you know. I've always been very tapped into my spiritualities, you know. We've spoken about this on the show. Um and I think that when I'm performing, you know, regardless of what I'm doing, if I'm speaking or DJing or whatever, I'm leaving myself. And I don't know what's happening until I see a video or people tell me about it afterwards because I really am going into a different place, a different space. Right. And I love that. So that happens to me often. It happens to me when I'm having sex with the right person. You know what I mean? Like I like having that out-of-body experience.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

Right.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

You know what I mean? Yes. And that should be on every level. That's how much I revere this particular timeline that I'm in.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Oh, and beautiful as it is. Thank you. Right? Open the golden gates, dear. I didn't mean an old wooden fence.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

How dare you? Shake the floor. The old wooden fence?

SPEAKER_01 47:06

The old wooden fence?

SPEAKER_03 47:08

Old crickety whore.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

Come on. Go for it, girl. Excellent.

SPEAKER_03 47:14

My starfish.

SPEAKER_01 47:16

It's got bumps on it.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

Oh! Curses! No, what did it say? Curses.

SPEAKER_02 47:22

Curses.

SPEAKER_03 47:23

Have you done curses? I you know, curses, what goes out comes back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

So there's good curses too, honey. I I I I put something out, but I don't push bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not gonna what what you do is what you're proclaiming for yourself. You're you're setting the pavement for who you are. So walk into the world that you created, like the orange, whatever. Uh-huh. So I I I don't I just I I used to put curses when I was a kid. Yeah. But it comes back to you. Yeah, yeah. So that's no.

SPEAKER_03 47:54

You have to be very mindful of it. Spells are different. Spells are different. Spells are more, you you, you know, you you you can be very mindful of them. Curse is a curse, honey. Right. I curse all the time. I mean, hello.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

Motherfucker's little bitch. Motherfucking so big. Right? Kiss my ass, Edward.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

Eat my ass. Enigma, please.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

Enigma.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

I live you, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

Get down there, honey, and still you motherfucker. Get up, but we get all got it.

SPEAKER_03 48:24

We're just speaking in tongues. It's time to go. Y'all listen. Like, subscribe. We're here every Thursday. We gotta give it up for the legendary my bitch, my girl, Joey.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

It's a cutting up, it's a kiki, it's a cutting up, it's a kiki. On time for you. Cutting up with Lena, cutting up with Connie, and I'm your special guest cream. Who cutting up, cutting up? We just got a new song.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

Cutting up, z cutting up zip zip around the corner. Well, thank you, everybody. And thank you. It's been an honor. And thank you to everybody who's watching the show. Please be inspired, watch it, and stay tuned because there's gonna be a lot more where that came from.

SPEAKER_03 49:04

I love you, fucking Joey. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Blessings, love and light, and always some brown sugar kisses.

SPEAKER_02 49:12

What you got, Con? I got some lovin' for sugar dumplings just like you. And some deuces. Deuces. Bitches. Thank you, Joey. Thank you, loving jumping. Power three.

SPEAKER_04 49:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 49:38

Our show is produced by Josh Rosenswag and Matthew Breen. Our gorgeous graphics are by Daryl Raymond. Our theme music is You Need It. Produced and written and performed by 808 Beach, John J.C. Carr, and Bill Coleman. Courtesy of Peace Biscuit. Our perfect production designer is Daryl Dickens. This season's hair has been done by the heavenly hair goddess herself, Mariah. Our very special thanks to Jason Canner for all your wonderful support. The cutting up is a Pride House Media production.