Music to Kiki By: Disco, House & the Albums That Raised Us

This week we are joined by producer Matthew Breen (who also doubles as HR, Sugar). We all spiral from the iconic Justin-Britney denim lewk into a full jukebox of memories.

It’s all about MUSIC. The albums that raised us, the songs that cracked us open, the disco divas who built community, the house tracks that baptized us on dance floors, and the very specific art of a “seal the deal” sexy playlist.

Because music is memory, identity, resistance, heartbreak, healing… and foreplay.

We talk about the childhood albums that shaped us—Michael Jackson’s Ben, Barbra Streisand’s Guilty, Bob Marley, Midnight Oil, Sinéad O’Connor, Kate Bush (obsessed), and the B‑52’s. These weren’t just records. They were bedroom sanctuaries, Sunday cleaning rituals, and emotional education.

Then we get into disco. It’s resistance music! And it’s pure queer joy. We time‑travel to late‑’80s/early‑’90s House and early club days at the Limelight, Area, Sound Factory and all the dance floors that felt like church. 

We swap songs for heartbreak, empowerment anthems, and the artists whose voices still stop us in our tracks. And yes, we absolutely discuss sexy listening picks—Sade, Maxwell, Afro‑Cuban rhythms—because vibes.

If you’ve ever cleaned your house to Barbra, cried to Sinéad, found religion on a dance floor, or curated a very intentional late‑night soundtrack, this one’s for you

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The Cutting Up: A Kiki with Connie & Lina is a Pride House Media production.

Producers: Josh Rosenzweig & Matthew Breen.

Graphic Design by Daryl Raymond.

Original Music by 808 BEACH (John “J-C” Carr & Bill Coleman), courtesy of Peace Bisquit. 

 Production Design by Darryl Dickens. 

Our very special thanks to Jason Kanner for all your support.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

You're gonna get it, honey. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_03 0:03

It's time for the cutting up. A Kiki with Connie and Lena.

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This is your backstage pass to all the dish fish. And that's the truth, Ruth. Come on now. Get into it.

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You guys, we are black. And look what we have. HR. HR. She's been bad.

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I've noticed.

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Have you been here? I didn't realize you were here, Sugar.

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I've been lurking.

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Where have your future been? At a denim party? Yes. With Leah Denim? A Leah Denim. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Well, we're doing it better than uh Justin, Justin Timberfake and uh Britain Spears.

SPEAKER_01 0:47

No, but that was kind of that was amazing. But I like your guys' look. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

It was iconic for the moment, but it did not age well. No, it did not. It did not age in the annals of death.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

Two of my friends who were designing for them at the time did them. Curtin Bart. Curtin Bart, yeah, Curtin Bart, yeah. They did them, yeah. But it doesn't age well. It didn't age well. Like her dress could get away with it if you picked it apart. If you took the hat is so verbatim that moment.

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And it isn't even good.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

It isn't even a Canadian tuxedo. No, it's not. And I love a Canadian tuxedo, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

It wasn't 80s mall stonewashed, yeah, with a little roost shoulder business. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

It was patchwork. It was patchwork. It was patchwork, but um the balance is kind of. Yeah, it was off.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

Because he looked like a really he looked like a mall pimp.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. He looked like a mall pimp.

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Or or or like, do you remember the Brady Bunch? Um Brady Bunch stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:44

Oh my god, totally.

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It was very that. Yeah.

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Little bud white. Sorry, boys. At the time, it was cute. If you're watching this episode, we love you. Didn't they have on pork pie hats?

SPEAKER_01 1:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

Oh, did they both have hats on?

SPEAKER_01 1:56

One of them had like a fedor fedora on. He had it on. He definitely had it on.

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He had the hat on.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

He did. He did. He did. He layered it on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:04

They layered it on him. Oh. Oh. Yeah, we're having a Ralph Lauren moment with all this denim situation in here. No, I know, yeah, I know. Ralph Darling. Ralph Dallas. I'm the CEO of the company today, and I've taken a little a leave from the company to come be here with you.

SPEAKER_02 2:20

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 2:22

I'm doing decor, darling, now. I'm doing decor, decor, decor, decor, darling. So what's going on in the Juniper, y'all?

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Hmm. Well, I came here to I have a topic for us to talk about today.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Ah, topic. Oh, topic.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

But if you have anything on your minds you want to clear the air with first.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

Still the topic. I'm sure stuff will come to me. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:38

So let's do a little jukebox. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

I wanna like. Music is an important part of all of our lives. So I wanna like.

SPEAKER_03 2:45

Oh, Kick Creole and the uh coconuts. Hello. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

I wanna dip into our memories about music.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

I love that.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

So I have a few items in mind that I hope conjure memories or feelings or whatever you like. So let's go back to childhood. Think about your childhood bedroom. Is there a song or an album that makes you that takes you back to that place and time?

SPEAKER_03 3:12

Well, in an episode I think we did with Joey Arias, I had mentioned one of my first albums with uh Ben Michael Jackson. That album to me just always I can put that on and I remember exactly what my room smelt like, what it looked like. That and um uh Barbara Strikesan's um uh guilty album is just baby. I I I I will put that album on and just do stuff around the house and get my life like every single song is just everything to me. So that would be me.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Well, that well, that's when albums were albums, you get them on and you listen to the whole thing, yeah, and it took it took you on a journey.

SPEAKER_03 3:56

Yeah, yeah, and then you had to flip it over, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Yeah, I pee the album. I mean, it's it's not how we consume music anymore. No, I mean I like to, but that's not how most of us do, yes, which is a real shame because you got a whole like sometimes you got a whole concept out of it now.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Yeah, and also too, they're not making albums like they used to. Right. People are just like, well, yeah, yeah. It is kind of a weekend, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

A c a couple of artists, a couple of artists. But is the lost still put it in. Yeah. Put in the work. What would be yours? Um, it would be Bob Marley. Ooh, and it's the album. I can't remember the name of the album, but it was a painting of him, and I was obsessed with that painting. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. It was the album cover, though, right? The album cover was a painting of him. I remember that. I can't remember that the name of the album, but um, you know, my mom would say, okay, it's like, you know, on Sundays, uh, put on the record and we would clean the house.

SPEAKER_03 5:01

Exactly. Oh, God, I miss that feeling. And you knew meals were gonna be good on Sunday, too.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

Yes. You got all the nooks and crannies. Move all of it. Ugh. You know, you dust on top of the shelves. I'm hungry. No. No, Joan Crawford. This house is filthy. I told you to move the plot, Elga.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

What would yours, Matt, be? Um, I played a Midnight Oil cassette over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

SPEAKER_03 5:35

Oh, I love those guys.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Um, the bed when the beds are burning is over and over and over. And that one and uh Sinead O'Connor the Lion and the Cobra.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

That album we have that here. Yeah, it's everything. Gorgeous. I live for Sinead. That voice. That poor thing, her son. What a tragic ending, honey. But God, remember that goddess. She was fabulous. She was.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

And and she fought the fight. She did. The good fight. She was ahead of the curb, honey. The good fight, and she didn't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_03 6:05

She did not because she knew. She knew where the skeletons were hidden, honey.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Yes, and and she wasn't going to play the game and oh, like, you know, no, fight the real enemy.

SPEAKER_03 6:16

Beg, thank you. And honey, she, you know that story about her and Prince? Yeah. That was fierce, honey. He he wrote, um, yeah, not nothing compares to you, but he also was physically abusive to her, assaulted her. At his house. She had to escape. She had to jump out of the house. Literally out of his house. So they were dating? No, no, no. She was in the studio at his with him. At Paisley Park.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

I think he invited her.

SPEAKER_03 6:39

And he invited her, and he it got volatile, and she had to escape the house.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

Yeah. What in the her autobiography is really.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

It really just is on the tea. This is out there. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. She's like, no, I'm not doing this. I don't need this. No, fuck you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Yeah. Her autobiography opened up so many like misconceptions. Even I, as a longtime fan, had about her. So it was really powerful story.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

That's true. Because she personified strength. She really did. And gorgeous.

SPEAKER_03 7:11

God damn. She's a beauty, honey. Okay. No hair. No, she didn't need no. Still mug, honey. Fatcha. Fa chug.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

Mug.

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Mug, mug. They're getting mugged, honey. Just look into my face. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

And one more. I had uh Kate Bush, Love and Anger. That was like a just like swoony.

SPEAKER_03 7:33

My favorite song is the um the central world.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

Central World, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:37

That reminds me of me and my ex-girlfriend Becky. We used to have sex on top of her. I just realized that I'm about ready to say, but you're H B.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

Can't she? Oh shit. Something can be.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

I've got to rub through the pie hole. But that song reminds me of her. We used to have sex on top of her car. And I remember one time it was raining outside and we're having sex on top of her car to Central World. What kind of car? On top of her car. Like the roof or the hood car? On the roof. No, uh, on the uh uh we started on the top and then slid down because it was raining, and then her back was on the windshield thing you do. It was in a parking lot. Hey, hey, can I kind of brought you the dark side leanish? I mean the mocha side. Ooh. How long did we go until I got there?

SPEAKER_02 8:27

Okay. Um 7.3 seconds.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

Well, I had a good one. Oh, I had a good one. But on top of a car? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

Was it like a bunch of V. And then the making of the beast with two backs slid you down to the windshield. Well, her back was on the windshield. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Squeak.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

And then the next day, all you just saw was ass marks on the front of the thingy dude. She had to like have it professionally cleaned, honey. You know, moisturizer. Um, I'm just saying moisturized on her skin, you know what I mean? And then it rains. It is a gym. We've been with her for two fucking long today's sponsor is Love's Baby Soft. Only a whore wears it. I'm gonna do it. You did the dusty old pussy last time. I did do it. I don't know.

unknown 9:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:19

Oh, it's on the ruminate.

unknown 9:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:22

I smell like a whore on my leg. Just on my leg. Oh, wait.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

But it's not that.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

Love's baby soft, should be.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

Oh, she she's powdery.

SPEAKER_03 9:32

Powdered pussy. Oh, oh. Powdered, old dusty pussy.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

The go away you know was powdery though, too.

SPEAKER_03 9:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

It does conjure up. I'm on my back, legs open. Absolutely. A little bit of a car. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

And also, too, it can be used. I mean, and then look at this. I told you about how my cousin lost his virginity to the uh tickle bottle, which is very similar to this. I mean, come on. Work 70s. I'm just saying. Anyway, they knew we're sponsored by Toby. They knew what to do with the bottom. They knew. Hello. He's the advertisement. You got powdery pussy in your throat, honey.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Oh, dusty powder pussy. Oh, it's making its way over here now. Good. Yeah, it's powdery.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

It is. It is.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

You were the shit if you were wearing it though. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Yeah. You were a whore. You were a whore. You were a whore.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

Only my leg today, though, because I just, you know, it fell on my leg. Only the right leg is whore. Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

Where are your legs like here? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Behind your ears. I look better behind your ears. I might like you better if we slept together. I love that song, honey. Such a good song. Oh my god. Right?

SPEAKER_02 10:50

Why do you do a new wave look?

SPEAKER_03 10:52

We need to do when next time Matt's on, we need to have a new wave look. I love it. Like full new wave. Like, really go there.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Adamant. Oh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

Bow wow wow. Bow wow wow. We talked about that when we did the whole Buffalo's girls look, honey, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

But like really new wave, like. Um, like um visage. Visage. Visage, not Michelle Visage. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Early Duran Duran.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

Oh, not new. Durante Durant.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

Asymmetrical hair. All of it. I was obsessed with the floor. Flacka Seagull's hair. Lamar was hot. Lamar could get it. From Kajigugu. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

And who are the twins that? Thompson twins?

SPEAKER_03 11:30

No, no. No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um they were so hot. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 11:35

Well, there was brass.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

They were later on. They were 90s. Yeah. No, this is 80s band and twins and one became an actor. Yes, yes, yes. Oh my God. So hot.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

Oh, they were so the blonde. No. Dark hair. I'm thinking of a different blonde. Yeah. Oh, those ones are rock. The two waves.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

No, they were new wave. They they were s in the depeche mode. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Not new shoes, not.

SPEAKER_02 12:07

I do love a new pair of shoes, though. Oh, thank you. There's nothing like a new that smell. I f I um at uh Nordstrom Rack, I found a pair of thigh highs that goes up to the book. Yakata. Ooh. Okay. They are wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

We have to wear, because I have some pair like that too. Okay. Let's have a thigh high cunt look. Okay. Okay. Matt, you won't be on that episode. That's all right.

SPEAKER_02 12:34

But you can be. You can be. There is a Gucci. Yes. Gucci men's. Yeah, yeah, there is, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

They go right up to the Gucci. They go up to the Gucci.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

They go up to the Twig and Berry area. Come on, Twig and Berry. God's still starving.

SPEAKER_03 12:49

I know. I know. Haven't eaten all day, sugar. Oh, you know, you know, hello. Smelled. Sweet. Yeah, you can never go wrong with some good music. And look at how many places we just went. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

We did go to two places that I was gonna ask about as well. One was like, what do you put on to like clean the house or when you gotta work around the house? And another one was like, what do you associate with your parents listening to a lot of when you were a kid? So you mentioned uh Barbara Streisand, guilty.

SPEAKER_03 13:21

And also the B-52's bouncing off your satellite album.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Good. That's higher energy, right?

SPEAKER_03 13:25

Yeah, and and I mean housework, the song housework. When when I used to clean my house, I don't anymore because I have a housekeeper. But when I used to clean my house, I religiously would put that fucking album on. And that house, because I'll make this house look. I mean, I mean, come on. The song tells you everything to do in your house.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

It's everything.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

And you feel fears.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

I mean, I'm like a schedule and a song.

SPEAKER_03 13:46

It is everything. And I love the B52s. We gotta have those on. I know we do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

We're putting it out. Hello. We're putting it out. Fred there. Love you. Please come. So for me, um, my mom would either put on reggae, Bob Marley, or Toots and the Maytels. Or um there, there um, and um the Panamanian Calypso and like Mighty Sparrow.

SPEAKER_03 14:22

Yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

Um, so so it would be a Caribbean kind of island Caribbean cleaning day. Nice, I love that. At the beginning. And then um, like it would go into whatch we call it, the OJs or the Temptations or the Spinners. Okay, Mom. Um, and like, you know, that that like RB. Yeah, but but the but the RB that is the impetus for disco. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Absolutely, yeah. Because that's the meat and potatoes of it, yeah. Yes, there there is that like the three down.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

That was RB. That's hello. Hello. And um there there was also uh during the holidays. Holidays, there would be um the South Soul uh Christmas.

SPEAKER_03 15:15

Oh yes, oh God, baby.

SPEAKER_02 15:18

Hi, with you American.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

Chara?

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Hi, with you American.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

I live, I live.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

I wew American. And happy new year.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

I uh But you're looking at Charo too.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

We need to get Chara on here. Oh Chara would be everything. Oh, and she still looks still she looks the same.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Amazing, still looks the same, and and and is an accomplished uh flamenco guitarist exactly.

SPEAKER_03 15:49

She's she's everything like her and Amanda, honey, are dipped in formaldehyde, honey. Thank you. Beautiful, beautiful, yeah. So what about you your family listening to?

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Um, my my mom listened to a lot of Aretha Franklin and Barbara Streisand and Cher. So I and Elton John.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

So I joked that I there was no option for me not to be.

SPEAKER_03 16:13

Yeah, absolutely. She knew she was the conjuring child. She was she was one of them has got to be special.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

Put on that song. I need a fagal. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

Benny and the Jets was the first song I could sing as a little. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

Oh, beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 16:30

Oh my god, I think of you and your sister in your underoos naked. Yeah. I can't. Taking a Christmas picture. Yes. You're like, how is pedophilia not running rabbit in this family? Oh my god. Somewhere else.

unknown 16:43

What?

SPEAKER_03 16:45

No, because he's like, my family was like passing off these photos of us, honey, during the holidays and underoos. But we didn't think nothing of it. Yeah. We didn't think anything of it. It was so pure. Yes. There was always pervy people out there. But now they're all the picture.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

They all have come crawling out from under the rocks now. Well, it it's because of the devices. The devices makes it easier. Devices have made it easier for them to wear. Well, maybe check your search engine. The household.

SPEAKER_03 17:17

Hello. I mean, like just where all those uh, you know, Republicans at a you know, a situation, honey, and grinder is boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And they've got the receipts.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

Crash grinder at the at the convention. At the convention, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. No gays. They're bad. Oh, yeah, so bad. Let me bend over and show me how bad you are. Should so naughty. I know every restroom in the continental United States. And I know your bikini lay. Officer, I was just cleaning the floor of the bathroom. With my mouth.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

Exactly. Thank you. Um, what about a song or an album that makes you cry or that you put on if you need a cry?

SPEAKER_03 18:06

Oh, I mean, anything by the Smith or Sardet. Yeah. But also makes me happy too. But there's also moments where you can really dive into it and like have that moment. Like when I want to have a moment where I just kind of want to be in my feelings, I will put on the Smith. And it gives me life. And I love it. Because I'm asking for it. You know what I mean? If I'm depressed, I'm not going to put it on. But if I want to, I want to feel a certain way. Emotional. Emotional. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

Look authoritative.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Because we hold on to stuff sometimes. And it's good to like let it go.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

Well uh Sade. Which is also great for making love. I mean, Hello. Billy Holiday. Hello. And Sassy Sarah. Sarah Vaughn. Sarah Vaughn, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

Sarah Vaughn. Yeah. Sarah Vaughn can bring you there. Yes, she can. Bring me's there. Yeah. Can bring me there. And now that I'm getting older, there are just some disco songs.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

Yeah, yeah. That just like take you there.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

I'm just like, you hear them in a different way now. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:09

When before you were like two too, and now you're like, oh.

unknown 19:12

Beep, beep.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

Yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_02 19:17

Yeah. So some disco does does bring me there.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

And also come to me. I love that song by Franj Julie. Oh. But it gives me, I mean, it's a beautiful song to end like a disco set with. I mean, it's just everything.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

And chair, take me home. No, take me home. I can get it.

SPEAKER_03 19:34

But yeah, absolutely. I think it's just the emotion of disco. Disco is beautiful and it has such soul to it. You know, and you, if you you you have to be rotten not to feel disco inside, you know what I mean? Because it just evokes so many feelings and also the times. And if you really dissect it, what we were going through at the times and just the freedom and just all of the things. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

Yeah, it sounds like fun party music in a way, but it's resistance music. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

It is, yeah. And and it got such a bad rap. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:07

The whole burning of it was just so it was queer, because it was black and brown.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

Yeah, black queer woman. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

That's enough said.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

What women were moaning and like, you know, claiming their sexual being. That's right. And, you know, the patriarchy was just like, no, we're not having this. No, no, no, no. No, no.

SPEAKER_03 20:33

And that's they supported them because we're like, we feel you. We're being ostracized too. We're being put down. We are, you know, having a noose around our neck, you know. So I think that's one of the loves and the respect that a lot of disco divas have for the queer community, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

We see you, we hear you. Connected. Yeah. Absolutely. We support you. What with your uh Kate Bush, yeah. It's like Kate Bush. She she brings you. Oh, Love and the Anger. Do you know that song?

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Oh God, that's a great song. I mean anything by Kate Bush, come on. Yeah. Yeah. Heart and shit. Yeah. Yes, a lot, a lot of Kate Bush. Her and Lori Anderson, I felt like should have done something together. That would have been interesting. Right? Yeah, like I said a long time ago, I think I said under one episode, I always felt like um Annie Lonnox and Lisa Stanfield should have done a lot of it.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

There's a lot of Annie Lennox that'll make you send me anything.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

Oh, yeah, Annie Lonnox too. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hello. Uh the D.Va album. Money Can't Buy It.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Yeah, the D.Va album is amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

And she does a cover of Bob Marley's. Yes. Um, I know what you're talking about. She does. I mean, she does a cover that is just so she's incredible.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

I love that picture of you and her.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh yes. Um, it was an Out 100 event a few years ago. And um, I you know met a bunch of celebrities, interviewed them over the years, and she but she really stopped me in my tracks. I was starstruck and just totally tongue tied. Yeah, but uh she was gracious and took a picture with me, so that. Really nice.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

Come on. Oh, One Love, yeah, yeah. One Love.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

And she did she did Whiter Shade of Pale, and she did a lot of great covers on um on an album Freedom.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Like her favorite music.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

It it it was it was what spoke to her.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Think about um music that you would put on if you really need to be inspired, something anthemic, something like that. When you hear it, it really lights a fire under you.

SPEAKER_03 22:30

Between the B-52s and Led Zeppelin and Depeche Mode, those three are kind of always my go-to. When I'm just feeling a certain way, I want to feel empowered, I want to feel fierce. Like I just I love the way Kate and Cindy harmonize together. They just, and their songs just speak to me on a whole nother level. And then just fucking Dave Gehan's voice. I just he he rapes me. You know, his voice is just everything. And I mean, Robert Plant is just he's given me a daybreak job every time I listen to him. And I'm just like, take me, take me, take me, take me. I literally can smell his balls and his jeans with no underwear on. You know what I mean? Like, that's the kind of connection I have with Robert Plant. He inspires me. She does paint the plant. Oh, yes, I love his music. Sorry. You asked.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

The music in his pen. His leather jeans.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

Stop, Jackie's a stop, Jack, or don't. Because I won't end. I'm edging. Oh, sorry. Not sorry. I don't even know how I got there. That's what he said.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Oh you brought him there.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

That's how he got it. He could still get it, honey. He could still get it. Yeah. And also to my last one, uh Brian Ferry, Roxy Music. Oh my. That fucking regal voice of him is just like butter. Yeah, Robert Plant and Brian and uh Brian uh Ferry. Hands down. And the older they get, the hotter they get for me. Yeah. Like a fine wine. Foy. They mature.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

Foy. Like a fine wine. Yeah. They do. They do. The question was. Inspirational. It inspires you up. Inspirational.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

Or reminds you of balls. I mean, if we're there.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

Yeah, I mean, listen, we can always go to those balls. What does remind me of balls? It's that house track. Reminds me of balls, that house track. Um body.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

Oh, bitch. That song is fierce, yes. Lick my ass up, my dick, do it fast, do it quick. A sweet pussy poly. So I please the sweet pussy poly.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But what gets me, what got me going at the beginning of my venturing out to find my tribe was Shaka Khan. This is my night. I would have it on on my walkman and on the train. That's a get it going kind of moment. Yeah. It it um it built me up and built up my confidence to go and carve out a space for myself. Oh absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 25:24

I mean, shaka, period. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

We're gonna have to make a playlist after this. I guess yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:29

I remember getting playlists and making playlists for people. I still have my cassettes and I would make the covers and everything. That would be fun. You told somebody you were in the mixtape.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

Motherfucking tape. Oh, honey. Chaka Con and Yoko Ono. Okay. Walking on thin ice. Walking on thin ice. Those two. Okay. Those two get me, get my heart pumping, get my juices flowing.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

I love that. I'm gonna have to listen to Cruel Woman. I know that one. What's yours, Matt?

SPEAKER_01 25:59

One I think about that I I like to work out too is um Whitney Houston, be your baby tonight.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

Oh, bitch, that is my favorite Whitney song. Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

Thunderbuss, that Thunderbuss mix, it's like it's a good one. Yeah, the remix.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

I got a remix to send you that you might not have heard. All right. Baby, that is my favorite Whitney song. And she was giving it to you in that song, honey. That song is Oh VA. Okay, yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

That's a good one, right?

SPEAKER_03 26:24

That's a good one. That is a very good one. And I love the video too.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

The video's great. She actually looked like she had some rhythm. Whitney was not known for no rhythm, honey. No, she was never dancing. Well, Whitney. Whitney had a voice. She's like, I don't need to do nothing else but just stand there, honey.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Hello. Unparalleled talent. Genius voice. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

A voice of a lifetime. Literally. Literally.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 26:51

Her and Babs.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

Oh my gosh. I mean. Her and Babs and Celine, and who else would you put in that list? Adele. Adele.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

Mariah.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Mariah.

SPEAKER_02 27:02

You're on fire. White babies.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

The B52s, I'm sorry. I go back to Kate and Cindy and also to the Wilson sisters from Heart. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

And um goes. Linda Ron said, hello. Yes. Cindy Lauper. Yes. Who has to be in there? Yeah, yeah. Because her range is insane. Uh-huh. And Patty can bring you to a close. Because DeAndra took me to um a patty concert and Dehydra. And I had on mascara when I went in. Sat down. Huge mistake. And I had nothing when I left.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

No, Patty will take you to church, honey, and then she'll give you a patty pie.

unknown 27:46

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Patty! Patty!

SPEAKER_01 27:52

And we gotta put Sinead in that category. Oh, yeah, Sinead too.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

So many good ones. And the Clark Sisters.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yep, the Clark Sisters can get it. This is a great segment. I like that. Because there's so many different elements of music. Yes. And what the emotions and all that stuff can bring out.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

We touched on it a little bit, but like what is your sexy album? What do you put on to Seal the Deal? Start it? Well, take me on the journey. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 28:21

Chardet. Sardet to get into the mood. Shardet to get in the mood and then Led Zeppelin in the middle to the end to like, oh yeah, we're going to fucking seal the date. We're painting the walls. If I'm putting on Led Zeppelin after Sardet, you're lipping home, honey.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

And then it's whatever music they play at the Fourth of July fireworks. Cymbals and.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those two. That's it. And you know I like you if I'm putting those two on. Otherwise, I'm just like, Alexa.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Put it on.

SPEAKER_03 28:59

Put on one of my mixes. You know, if I like you and I know we've got some chemistry and I know we can fuck some shit up. Sardan Let's Up. Sardin Ledz up. Oh, Alexa, no. Sorry. Alexa, music off. See? You gotta be very careful. Not yet.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

See, that scares me. I know. That scares me.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

Don't even talk about her. She's listening. What's yours, Khan? Ignore her. She's not here.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

To get it, to get it on. One. Come back to me in a moment, I have to think. Okay. So what what?

SPEAKER_01 29:36

I've just rediscovered Maxwell Urban Hangs.

SPEAKER_03 29:38

Woo! Baby! That album's you know what? That's a middle. That's a middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maxwell's a friend. I didn't just get Maxwell on. Yeah, Maxwell's a friend of mine. Yeah, yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah, I love Maxwell. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Uh that is a super sexy album. That is like.

SPEAKER_03 29:53

Yeah, I fucking get it.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Yeah. And then uh, you know, Thievery Corporation. Uh-huh. They just have a lot of like global standing grooves that are just like really like smooth and sexy, and you just feel like you're in another place. Another another world. Another world.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

Let's go somewhere. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

Yeah. So those are both really groovy. Nice. Like yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Sexy time.

SPEAKER_03 30:16

Going on journeys today, children.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

Well, um. Herb Albert.

SPEAKER_03 30:21

Ooh, Herb Albert's good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

Herb Albert. And I and I do like a Afro-Cuban cha-cha-cha. Yeah. Because I like the rhythm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

The rhythm find its way in there. Okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

I do like a cha-cha-cha.

SPEAKER_03 30:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Or a merengue or an Afro-Cuban because the beat and the rhythm. Yeah. And like, you know, you can you can no, do it this way.

SPEAKER_03 31:04

Right, right, right. Listen to the downbeat. God, am I having Cuban for food tonight? I'm so hungry. Cuban food? That's good. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

What is an uh we'll do two two quick ones? How's that? Um an album that helped get you over a heartbreak. Share, do you believe in life after love? My first heartbreak. I was like, oh, it sounds a little silly in retrospect, but I was I was feeling every little bit of that when it was new.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

Okay. Because the the the words spoke to you, and and that's a thing. Um it it comes into your world and speaks to you. Um Biork Um human behavior would be mine. Would be my that that really like it it it like came to it came, it entered me. Yeah. Like he had.

SPEAKER_03 32:06

Yeah, my girl, I was waiting for you. I was so proud of you, you're growing up. Oh, my filthy sistrix.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

I know. I I feel, I feel, I I I feel like I'm gonna be. I feel as one. I feel as one. I do.

SPEAKER_03 32:20

My sisters is growing up. I have infected her with my filthiness. I would say a mixture between Violator by Depeche Mode and Bedtime Stories, Mado Doo.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Oh, that's a good one too.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

That album.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

And Nerotica too. Neurotica can get it. But definitely more, more, more bedtime. I do bedtime stories. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Okay. When that when these were all when they were new, they were. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

No, but bedtime stories I did. I did because it was I was in Italy back then. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

So let's go back in your minds again to one more, one more moment. Okay. Can you remember any of the music that was playing when you first uh work worked the door or hosted, or when like what was your first like club gig? Or when you were performing, uh some some something you like to perform to, but like what really takes you back to a moment when you were first starting in clubs? Fuck. I mean, just early house, period.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

I mean a diva.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

You know, uh Jamanda. Um I mean Fast Freddy. I mean, I used to live for Fast Freddy's. Let's go. Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean, late 80s, early 90s, house baby. Okay. It's just that's the that's that's that's my tribe. That's my shit.

SPEAKER_02 33:48

I would say um glamour and I went to um Slimelite one night. And Would I Lied to You came on. And we were in our E D phase. And Blackstock.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

You read mixed Would I Lie to You?

SPEAKER_02 34:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Yes, with the motorcycle sounds in the middle of it.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

And it and the energy in the room, and um just like us being engulfed in in the in that Warhol sort of moment of empowerment and finding. Yeah. And the room was just pulsating because it had just come out and it was Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 34:42

I used to love when they would throw like an 80s moment up in the gig. Like when they would like when they would um, like an area, uh they would just toss in like um uh David Burns um the money, and I had a girlfriend. Better than that, that song. I mean, literally, everybody would just be like what talking heads. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:04

Oh everything. Um uh Psycho Killer.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

Kiss the sang.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

Yeah, Psycho Killer. Psycho Killer songs. Those two are my favorite songs by them. Because I remember uh uh it was like my like fourth or fifth time at Area, and I can't remember who the DJ was, but he put on um I think it was Bob Marley.

unknown 35:30

Work.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

And Could You Be Loved? It was it was something like that. No, no, no, no, no. 976 was my number.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

That's uh the May Tell, Two to the May Tells. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

But it was a reggae song, and I and I was one of the only people who was on the floor really, and I was just like, oh my god. Yeah. And an actor came up with his date, and he's like, You're such a great dancer, and you just like embodied that song, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

God, there's nothing like some good music, honey. Yeah, takes you to church on that dance floor, honey. Back in the day, we used to have the baby powder, honey. Remember the baby powder, you sprinkle it up on the floor, honey, you get your scuffle on, honey. Oh yes.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

If you brought your proper dancing shoes, not your purse. Hello, hello, hello.

SPEAKER_03 36:22

Oh no, bitch. If I was going to the club to get my Kiki on, honey, they were always a shoe that was ready to like get in. I never wore, I couldn't wear a purchase shoe because I can't sit still. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

That's true.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

You know what I mean? Yeah. And if I thought they were a purchase shoe, they become a cutting up shoe by the end of the night, honey. I'm like, there you go. Well, that's why you wore a mule. I yeah, I do love it, I always love a mule.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Okay, so we have just a little bit of time left. Okay. Let's want to do a little fishbowl. Absolutely. Nothing like without a beach bowl, all right.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

A beach bowl. Okay. Who'd you get? I got a sting a stingray? Yeah, that's a stingray. That's a stingray. Yeah. And sleep sleep regimen.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

What's your sleep regimen? What are you?

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Trying to get to sleep. That's my regimen.

SPEAKER_01 37:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

Um, I I oh, I have insomnia forever. Oh, that's debilitating for me. Yeah. Um I've tried everything. Really? And I still wake up for a have you tried calm?

SPEAKER_03 37:33

No. I have some up in the cupboard. Okay. It's calm, it's a powder. You just put a like a scoop of it in water and mix it and drink it before bed, and it's supposed to make you feel very zen.

SPEAKER_02 37:43

I I I just think that I am always in my head, always thinking, and it's so difficult for me to shut it down. Yeah. But um, I did try, and it sort of helps every now and then, is um, I think it's like Sherlock Holmes, um, that you go through your mind and you shut down. I've heard that, yeah. Like, like, like you shut down the thoughts. Yeah. You categorize them. You should you yes. You shut them down, close the door, and then you leave. Work. And that sort of helps every now and then.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

Okay, right. Nice. What time do you usually get to bed? Um it's kind of no wonder that you have a crazy sleep schedule because of your work schedule.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

So when you're working, you're working often until what hour?

SPEAKER_02 38:40

Um, usually um we stop the door like at 3:34. Um, and then by the time I get home, it's five. I have a little snack. Four. I got uh I get home by five. Um, have a little snack. So by six thirty, seven. Damn, girl. Um, you know, I've I I've sort of But those were our lives back in the day. Work work work through. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

And so last night? No. How many hours of sleep did you get?

SPEAKER_02 39:14

Last night I got to bed like maybe at 2 3 3. Okay, that's not too bad for you. And then I love how that's early for her. What woke up at like six?

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Six.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

It's not much. You look fresh as a daisy though, girl. I'm impressed. Hello.

SPEAKER_02 39:38

Trend strap. And that um the roller, honey, hello. It's flare. It's a flare thing, and there's Titan. Whoa. A flare gun. It's like red light, but laser therapy and also electro shock. I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_03 39:59

Look, look. I am in bed by seven, and I'm up at 3 30 a.m. every morning like clockwork. I don't even need a uh an alarm. No, no, no, no, no. Up like 3:30. Take the babies out, I come back in and I do my meditation.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

But I've always been a child of the night. Really? Even when I was little.

SPEAKER_03 40:20

Yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 40:21

What about you, Matt?

SPEAKER_01 40:22

Usually asleep by midnight and up by between six and seven. So I would like a little computer. I would like a little more sleep. But uh I used to do a solid eight, but can't do that anymore. Yeah. But I have to have a sleep mask now.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

Really?

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Yeah. And most of the time I put tape on my mouth too. I do that. Yeah?

SPEAKER_02 40:39

Oh, that's a good thing. Because I'm a snore. I snore.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

And it helps me sleep deeper, actually. Really?

SPEAKER_03 40:44

I've heard that. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

Some people are freaked out by it, but it works for me.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

But do do you have the one that has like the little slit so that you can have a sip of sip of water?

SPEAKER_01 40:56

No. I have no. It's just a like a um it's kind of like that. It's kidnapping. It's kind of like that spongy stuff that used to wrap a sore muscle. Uh, but sticky and I found one that works on a beer.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

It's um I am alive. I want 25.$25,000?

SPEAKER_03 41:16

Miss Hearst, where did you get here?

SPEAKER_01 41:19

All right. Um, we'll think of some music to add. We'll do we'll put together a list of the some of the songs we talked about. Playlist. And maybe we make a little compilation catch. I love that. That'll be a lot of fun. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

You guys can come to our Spotify on my Thingy Doing.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Music to Kiki by. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:35

So thanks for talking to me today.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 41:37

HR Matt, we love having you on, sweetheart. We always know it's going to be a slippery soap. I mean, a good time when you're here.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

Thank you. Delighted to be here.

SPEAKER_03 41:45

Oh, darling. A slippery soap of a flop. A flippery slope. A slippery soap of a good time. Oh, that's a good one, Khan. It does. I was thinking it in my head and you said it. Hold on. Ventriloquis. Ew. You guys.

SPEAKER_02 41:59

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_03 42:02

For her pleasure. You guys like, subscribe. We're here every Thursday sending you blessings, love, and light, and always some brown sugar kisses. You guys have a good day. And what you got, girl?

SPEAKER_02 42:11

I got some lovin' for my sugar dumplings and some deuces, bitches. See you soon. And once again, I'm hungry.

SPEAKER_03 42:23

Deuces. Thank you, Matthew. Thank you, happy birthday to our production assistant. Thank you for getting this share. Look at that. Happy birthday. Oh my god, that face is so cute. She's like giving the noble face. Happy birthday, Mama! Our show is produced by Josh Rosenswag and Matthew Green. Our gorgeous graphics are by Daryl Raymond. Our theme music is You Need It. Produced and written and performed by 808 Beach, John J.C. Carr, and Bill Coleman. Courtesy of Peace Biscuit. Our perfect production designer is Daryl Dickens. This season's hair has been done by the heavenly hair goddess herself, Mariah. Our very special thanks to Jason Canner for all your wonderful support. The cutting up is a Pride House Media production.