Cleansing Curses, Taking Leaps & Owning Your Power

This week on The Cutting Up, Connie and Lina are welcoming our brother-in-chaos and Pride royalty himself, David Correa. Shall we start with outfits and an I Love Lucy tangent? Yes, we shall.

David and Lina go way back—all the way to 2016, when he booked her as the resident DJ for NYC Pride’s Pride Island, a year that honestly shifted everything in terms of diversity, visibility, and who gets to take up space. From WorldPride to Hudson Yards to the moment he told Lina (to her face!) that the community elected her as a Pride Grand Marshal!

Then we talk about the real leap.

David opens up about leaving NYC Pride, freelancing with his husband’s support, and stepping into his next chapter as a pop-culture entertainment correspondent and executive producer/co-host of the ABC Pride broadcast.

And we get into the concept that changed everything:

Unshrinking.

Why do we make ourselves smaller?
How do bullying and trauma follow us into adulthood?
What does it actually mean to take up space — especially in media and within the LGBTQ community?

We talk representation, diversity in media, career pivots, and turning trauma into strength.

It’s heartfelt. It’s chaotic. It’s empowering. And always a cackle.

So, Sugar, if you’ve ever felt like you were “too much” or “not enough,” this one’s for you.

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Producers: Josh Rosenzweig & Matthew Breen.

Graphic Design by Daryl Raymond.

Original Music by 808 BEACH (John “J-C” Carr & Bill Coleman), courtesy of Peace Bisquit. 

 Production Design by Darryl Dickens. 

Our very special thanks to Jason Kanner for all your support.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

You're gonna get it, honey. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_02 0:03

It's time for the cutting up. A Kiki with Connie and Lena.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

This is your backstage pass to all the districts. And that's the truth, Ruth. Come on now. Get into it. Conka! Hi, Lena! Welcome Black David Girl. How you doing? Welcome black to you too. A little jewelry.

SPEAKER_02 0:26

Wait, do you have anything underneath her? Maybe. A little dinner. A short sugar. Oh, a short. Hello. I don't know if you can see them, but they're here. More chains than, you know.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

More chains than shorts. More chains than shorts, sugar. You shortened the short but elongated the chain. Wait, she sells cheese shorts on the seashore.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

Sally sells sea shorts by the seashore. Yeah, I never get it. Or she sells shorts by the seashore, honey. Sally sells t shorts. T-shirts by the seashore. That one I'll remember, honey. I love. Okay. Well, speaking of selling, honey, we have a delicious special guest who's my brother, who sells himself for the media. Welcome, Duffy!

SPEAKER_00 1:14

I am so excited to be here with y'all. Finally. Oh, this is incredible. I mean, so many things are happening right now. I'm in this space. We've been friends for 10 years. It's my first time here. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

We've been trying to like have a game night with me and his husband forever, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

I also feel like I'm a third member of the girl. Bitch, you are giving the look today. H to T, honey. Power of three. Thank you, thank you. Power of three.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Bitch, H to T. Lucy and Ricky? It is. Isn't that fabulous? Oh my God.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

I'm obsessed with I Love Lucy. My two puppies who are no longer with me were Desi and little Ricky.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Oh my God. So my God. All the way.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Biggest, biggest I love Lucy fan.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Yeah, she better work. Did you see the dolls in there?

SPEAKER_02 1:59

I did.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

Well, it's it's the beginning. It's the beginning of great television.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

I mean, where the nanny spin-offs of life came from that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Yeah, everyone's trying to be the next Lucy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we know some Lucy bitches, but Lucy.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

That's a different type of musician. We went shooting. I don't know which one I like better.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

But you look scrumptious, honey. Y'all too. Everything. We know what we got our guests up in here. We got to come correct. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

We we uh it's our gift. Yes. As um Vivian Westwood said, when you come to someone's home or you go to an event, you dress. That's right. That is and that is your gift to the host. That is so good. And we thank you for this wonderful love.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

You can correct, honey. Thank you. I give you a little blingy bling. Yes, yes, yes. Beat you with my chain. Oh, take it. And out the day Mention. She had these beautiful uh the uh uh Alexis Petars on a couple episodes ago, honey. Those earrings can get it. They are they're wonderful. Stunning.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

We love you, Alexis. But please come on. Thank you. Please come. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

Every look. Y'all turn out every look, every episode.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

As do you on your show, honey. David Speed. I love your show, sweetheart. It's everything. But also, just before we get into all the hats that it is that you wear, we have to tell everybody our relationship. I'll let you take that one.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

So we've known each other 10 years. I started working for New York City Pride in 2016. We booked Lena to be the resident DJ for uh what was called Pride Island that year. Yeah. And Patty Labelle was the headliner with Deborah Cox. This story is a kiki, honey.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

This is our first time working together.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

First time ever working together. Never met, knew of Lena, but was like, I didn't, I didn't know Lena. Experience. Right. But the experience was lovely from day one. I tell her this all the time. It was a scary space to be in. There was, I was one of the first full-time, full-year employees hired at New York City Pride at the time.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

So it was very experimental. Nobody knew what was happening. They were growing, heading towards world pride three years later. And I was just like, I just was like, it felt heavy. I felt if I'm being a little bit of a big thing. You took on a lot, baby. I took on a lot. I felt unseen. It was a much different organization than it is now. I am no longer there full-time, but I am a proud member of that family. They I'm a contractor there. I support them as a producer. Um, but at the time I was like, I'm not gonna make it to this show. If I'm being very honest, I was like, this is a very white-centric organization. That's right, right. I'm a queer little Latino boy from Bridgeport, Connecticut, just an hour from here. Come on now. Who didn't grow up with a white-centric upbringing. I grew up surrounded by diversity. And then I stepped into New York and got more diversity. And then I took on this role at New York City Pride and thought I was getting even more of that. And I didn't. You didn't.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

You're absolutely right. Because the time that you did come in, I had worked with the other organizer prior, and it was becoming very whitewashed that way. And that's not what one, New York or Pride is about, right? In this city.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

And that year was the shift. That's the year that everything started to change, and you had three women of color leading this major.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

Yes. No, your your energy, your energy pushed, and that and and that was your purpose. That's right. To push and to and to bring more diversity.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

So those things that you were feeling, you just showing up and and and the correlation of people that you put together was your big fuck you to them. And your end of the angst, if you will.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

Thank you. Well, I I appreciate that because I was raised by a village of really powerful women. Amen. And then stepped into a world where there was these women like you. So Lena comes into my world, we're exchanging emails, and she was just so lovely the whole time. And I was like, no, no, not everyone is lovely. But Lena's very lovely. So when the actual concert happened, we had you in this tower.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

I was literally a tower girl. I'm not even I had to climb up a ladder. Like way high up above everybody. So people are waving to me, but I, you know, me, I like to be, and people like to be near me. Yeah. But that's where I was.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Yeah. And we had her up there because she was supposed to be in a cake. Because the whole theme was like, let them eat cake. Okay. So she was in this cake tower, and I climbed up, and she looked at me and she goes, You get your ass up. I did.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

He climbed up those stairs, honey.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Got me up the ladder, gave me a big hug and a kiss. She goes, I don't like being up here, but I like you. Yeah. And she was like, You did a great job. Whatever you need, honey, you always you just call me. And every single year after that, we've worked together. And then leading up to World Pride, we had World Pride, you did the opening ceremony with Whoopi Goldberg. My girl.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

Oh wow. At the knock uh at the uh Barclay Center. Barclay Center, thank you. Yeah. Oh my god. That was amazing. That was amazing. And to be on that trip from the beginning of where he had started to that point was just everything. And even to the very end when you left. You know what I mean? He kept me there. And we it was just he didn't need to, but it was because of our energy and also his vision. And that our visions were very similar. And he knew that wherever he wanted to drive the car, I was gonna be in his passenger side and I'm your best friend's right. You know, and and you know, it's that synergy when you've got that person next to you. You don't have to think about it. Yeah, and you want that, especially in creative spaces. Yeah, so I always thank you for that, brother.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Thank you. Always. I thank you because you just you made my life easier, you made my job easier. You were just always the easiest first phone call.

SPEAKER_02 7:58

I like being easy for people.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

You're so good at it.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

Stop. We longed to get there, but this time I decided to take my time. No, but you let her then.

SPEAKER_04 8:18

I don't usually leave.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

I didn't usually lead, but she this whole feeling just inspired something.

SPEAKER_02 8:31

And then our last one was at Hudson.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

At Hudson, uh Hudson Yards, right?

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Yes, we did Hudson Yards together. Hudson Yards, yeah. That was our last one. That was our last one, yeah. And then I took a little break, but I still used you in other organizations that I worked with. Yeah, always always. We were we never missed a year. No, and then last year was the big one. Okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

For so for the uh parade. Yeah. So he gives me, we're we're chatting, and we were talking about actually something else, I think.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

And we were like texting her on the phone call, and then afterwards, he then reached out to me, I think, the next day, and you're like, Lena, can I see you? And I was like, Well, of course, you don't ever have to ask me that, but um I need to see you in person. And I was like, Oh my god, what is it? And I was like, Okay, I'm with Casey, and he came and he met me at Casey's, uh-huh, and uh, he came down, he met Casey, and he waited until I was finishing working out, and then I just so I it was burning inside of me to tell you.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Burning inside of me. You know they got a pill for that. I took it. I itching. So we go, I I bring her, I sit her down. I said, Do you mind if I record this? She's crazy enough to allow me to because I trust him.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

You know, if I trust you, I'll let you film me.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Sneak up on something, record something. We sit down, she goes, Are you proposing? And I was like, basically.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

I was like, I know your husband. Am I into that polygamish? Sister Wild, he would be down. Hello. Okay, as would I, but go.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

He loves you. But um, the community voted. It was not a me vote, it was the community. The community voted, but when I found out that she was the one that the community voted for, I was like, please, yeah, please let me be the person to tell her. Please.

unknown 10:21

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

And it was it couldn't have been anybody else now, looking back at it. It really couldn't. And I didn't even know how that happened. I didn't, I thought that, you know, yeah, there's amazing pillars. I didn't know how they got the position of being grand marshal, because you know, we we pay them homage when we see the grand marshals in Manhattan, but I never knew the whole process of how it came about. I didn't know people voted, and I will still always say it's David's fault.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

It's the reason why I got to live that fantasy and speak about it. But it's it's part of your relationship, that community building, yeah, yeah, and and and bringing diversity.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

I mean, you you you both are champions of that, and that's such a wonderful gift that that you give, that you give to the community. And um, like, you know, you you're rider dies for each other, which is so wonderful to see, especially in this world that that we're living in, and sort of how how dynamics are and um you know the the hills that you both have had to scale. Yeah, yeah. It's it's wonderful. And and you know, you you have to um be each other's champion, and that's and that's wonderful that that you got to share that moment.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

I know, yeah, especially after, you know, almost 10 years together, you know what I mean? So him coming and doing that physically in person was just it was it was more emotional because it was him. And then I took into account that oh my god, I'm a part of this legacy, and I'm being seen by not only my peers, but my city. Yeah, you know, the world, the world, the world, because hello, everybody knows we are the melting pot of the universe, especially pride, you know, in New York. Hello. It's still an honor that I'm blessed to be a part of that alumni, you know. Thank you. With these looks, I mean sign her up. I'm going to sell my sister on the black market. Why does it gotta be black now? I can't help it.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

But I got charetrics, honey.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

I got charetricks, honey. Okay, so all the many hats from I mean, literally, you can see this one on every news station, but I and also too, when you left the organization, but like you said, he still helps out. But when he left the organization, he had told me, you know, sidebar before he'd even spoken to them, which I was like, God, he really does revere me as his sister. We I remember our conversation that we had, Khan. And he was just like, you know, I have this passion that I have got to speak and act on. And we all know that because we've all been there as creative types, you know. And I I've just got to leap and I've got to do it. And I think that we've all been there, you know, where I don't ever feel like I want to have a net to to to fall into. I want to be so organic with my process that I want the scrapes of the knees and the and experiences of life to have me land there however I land there, so that everyone can watch that as we progress together. Yeah, and that's what you did. And that's where you are.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Yeah, I mean, I was so blessed though, because I had people like you. My husband is the most incredible human on the planet. And another creative source. Oh, so he's just the best. And when I was considering it, you know, I'd been there at that point eight years, seven years, something like that.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

And some people rely on staying in those positions and being comfortable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

I I was with someone, uh, a partner of the organization, who one day told me never leave. And when she said that to me, I said, Oh no. That's a nail in the coffin. I was like, I gotta go.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Yeah, load. What kind of load is that for someone to put on you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're already doing it, but that's for some people.

SPEAKER_02 14:19

That's for some people. And I get why that person would say that because some people want that safety net. Yeah, yeah. We're not those people, we're free birds. And it came as a compliment.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yes. But at the time I was already considering a move, and I went home to my husband, and I was, I like just unraveled. And I was like, I just I can't do this anymore. I I'm stuck, I don't know what to do. How do I get out of this? And he said, quit. Just quit. And I was like, we can't quit. We depend on both of our salaries. Right. Like we have dogs, we have a car, we have this, we have that. He was like, We'll figure it out. See, now that's a supportive motherfucker. Yes. Well, he has never, ever, ever faltered. And look, I've been freelance two, three years at this point. Yeah. And there have been some ups and some downs. Yes, there is. And he has never, ever, ever questioned. Ever. I am so lucky.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

I said you know you got a good one, honey. Yes. You know, and friends too, who do that too. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 15:17

Oh, yeah. So many people have just been like, what do you need?

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

How do we do this? How can we support you?

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Because we call on each other.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

As uh as um as friends and as um, you know, artists and in the creative community. And that and that's part of our connection.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

Yeah. Yeah, it's how we keep each other afloat. That's right. You have to.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Yep. So you're doing now, you're doing I do um I do I do it all.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

I am a pop culture entertainment correspondent. Oh, gorgeous. So I hop around the morning show circuit and I talk about exactly I talk about everything and anything that's happening in the moment. So it's trying to stay abreast of what's happening.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

What?

SPEAKER_00 16:07

I I set that one up on purpose.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

You didn't know what you're doing. Granny, please go.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Thank you. Oh we are hungry. Always hungry. So you did the chicken circuit, honey.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

I run the chicken circuit. And then most recently, so I had left New York City Pride in 2022, and in 2024, they invited me to come back and co-host the ABC broadcast. Yes, which is major. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:51

Which is the year that I did, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

Yeah. Wait.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

No, no, no, that was before. That was right before, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

That was the year before, yeah. Um, so now I executive produce and co-host the ABC broadcast.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

I mean, come on. Talk about the leap and look at where the leap has gotten you. Doula Leepa.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

That's who you are, honey. Doula Peep.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

Doola Peep. So major. And you know what the funny thing is, is I remember when I saw him all of a sudden on all the news channels. I'm just like, this motherfucker was second guessing himself, and look at him. You serious. I mean, that is like the passion inside of art. Yeah, just you can't contain it. That's what it's like. If you're ever thinking about something, just do it. Don't be scared. Don't say uh because of monetary things or any of those. No, baby. If it is in you, darling, it's meant to come out.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Yeah, I've been posting this series called Unshrinking on my social media. Oh, I love that name. Because I find that for myself, a lot of times I was shrinking. Yes. I I grew up a bullied kid. Yeah, yeah. And I was made fun of for being queer and not masculine and all the all the things that a lot of us go through. Yes. And I allowed that to create what I call echoes. Like when I decided that I wanted to go down this route. The very first thing that I thought about was all these bullies who I don't ever see. Right. I haven't seen them so much. And why are you giving them a lifeline? Why? They're not a part of my life anymore. So I had to unshrink and let all that go. And in that process, I learned that all of these things that would have been barriers to entry for me are actually my biggest strength.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Absolutely. That's your strength.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

I can read a room because for so long I had to be quiet and read the room to see if it was safe. So now I can read the room to know like this is the energy I have to bring into this interview.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

That's beautiful, David. And it's so true. We have to carry that on everything that it is we do. And I think that because of sometimes the trials that we feel like we have to invert with and that are kind of we feel like working against us are actually our superpowers. Yes. You know? And how they actually help us navigate through safety and and and guidance in life.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Yeah. It's so important to be able to take that energy that you have and refocus it in a positive direction as opposed to observing and being afraid. It's observing so you understand the space that you're in and how to move forward in it. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Amen, honey.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

And any space you're in, you deserve to be in.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Absolutely. And release. Release the sort of um bad aspect of it. And take what, as you said, you're taking what you learn from that and making it positive and making it work for you. Yep. And part of that is letting go of that negative energy. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Yeah. And it becoming your superpower. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

And I hope all little queer kids get the opportunity to do that at some point. Yeah. It is a super. I would I would choose a million times to do this life the way I'm doing it. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

And and change nothing about it.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Change nothing.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Like everything that we had to go through to get here. And also too, I love all the representation that these kids have nowadays to see all of this different flavor, color, uh, and and any type of uh business that you're in. Those weren't a lot of options when we were coming up. Yes. No. You saw a little sprinkle here and there, but it was like, and also the token. The token, exactly. And it was never so much flavor. And even if you did see any, you know, um rainbow coralition uh flavor or whatever, it was on a will and grace or something. You know what I mean? It wasn't to the extent of what we're seeing right now. We're seeing people in the news, we're seeing more people having real life situations showing that look, we do it all.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Yeah. Yep. It's beautiful, it's beautiful to see. I mean, you had Wilson on not long ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was the only representation. Right, hello. There were no other queer Latinos on television. Uh-huh. It all started with Wilson. That was a great episode, yeah. And that was like hanging on to that because I was like, there is, I exist somewhere. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

Mirrored. You were mirrored. Your experience was mirrored, your language, your your your community. Yep. And you know, we we've been talking about it a lot. Yeah. This this the this go-round about um how they're trying to dial these things back. But it can't it it can't be dialed back now. The cat is already out of the bag.

SPEAKER_03 21:27

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

And and and um and even people outside of our communities see our value and want our value. Because um, you know, um you might not reach someone through the guise of some uh of someone that looks like them, but someone who doesn't look at them, who doesn't look like them, you can gain some sort of experience from it. And that is so beautiful and so needy. It is, it really is. And this trying to dial it back, it's it's weird. Yeah, it's weird and it's so counterproductive.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

And it's always the most corrupt people who have absolutely no flavor whatsoever. Right. Want it on the DL from any capacity, or they steal it. You know what I mean? But yet they want to repress it because they want to own it.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

Yeah, and they're jealous of it.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

Well, you know, when listen, when life has been designed for you and you have absolutely no talent and no uh real vision, you're going to try to do all you can to repress it and put it in its place to pick and dissect what you need to stay what you think is relevant. But guess what, darling? If you look at America, it looks a lot different from when we were first coming up. So the ethnicities and all the multi-biracial situations outweigh the uh one-way situation that we have only thought about, never seen. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 22:55

So yeah, and we still have a ways to go. I was looking at the US UCLA diversity report recently, and only three percent of leads are Latinos. Yeah, yeah. I think six percent of leads, and this is in television and streaming, are are black or African American. Crazy. And it's like open these doors to us. Open these doors.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

You see that it's there, the talent is there. It's I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Yeah, it's proven, it's proven to to to the whole world time and time over and over again, yeah, that uh diversity is needed. There there is no one sort of vision or one way of thinking. Um it need it it needs the whole rainbow. Yes. Like, like, you know, like a prism, all colors come together to make light. Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

So so how how how can we not think about that in life? Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

And it brings diversity of thought.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

Yes, it does.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

Yes, yes, which is so important because you don't know what you don't know. That's right. So when someone else walks into the room and says, actually, my experience of this situation is this, it changes everything. It does, it changes everything. But your skin looks over in the light heaven.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

This hideous creature, honey, next to me, honey. She's always looking good living.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

It is good living, it's good loving too, honey. And and and it's um it's your spirit and your vibration. Being happy, giving.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

Hello. We don't gotta be rich, but be rich. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

In in in in yourself and in the moment. Absolutely. I love that system.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Yeah, you want a little fishbowl sugar. Let's do it. I love the fishbowl. You know you can't leave without some fish. Ah shake it, baby. Okay. A cre a starfish. Yay. Curses. Curses! Oh, have you put a curse on someone?

SPEAKER_00 24:55

I did not put a curse on someone. Were you cursed? But oh, yes. Oh, there's two stories. No. Okay. Break it. Okay. Okay. I did not put a curse on someone, but I did feel like there was a group of people that had a power over me that I was not able to let go of. You know, like you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're sitting there and you're like, Yeah, why is this on me? Like, why are you why am I constantly thinking about you? I don't want to think about you. Um so I did some reading and I found if you write those people's names and you put it in your shoe. Uh-huh. In your shoe, and you take a walk and you just positively ask to release them. I'm not asking for anything bad to happen. I just I want you to get off my back.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

I want this out of my system. I'm gonna wash that gray right out of my hair. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

I did that. Yep. Um, and then my husband Jay and I think that we were cursed last year. What? We had so many so much happen that I don't even think I told you everything. But we lost one of our pups last year. That I knew. We had a fire in our building and were moved out of our apartment for almost two months. In right leading up to Pride. Like I didn't move back in until June.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

Um we had a hate crime situation with a neighbor where we had to call the cops. What? We were in um a mash uh no one got injured, but we were in a mall shooting. Damn, Jana? It was just like back to back to back. And I remember the mall shooting happened, and um I we were running through the parking lot, and I told my husband, I was like, something has to give. We have to like get to go to church, we gotta go talk to like the people we love, his grandmother, my mother, very like powerful spiritual people. So we have to go talk to someone, his mother was like, we need to something needs to something needs to give here. And then we got some we heard some things and we removed those people. Yep, baby.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

But it was Phantom of the Chopra.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

Yeah, yep. The malayocyang. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Halera.

SPEAKER_02 27:02

And then you just you saged and we talked and absolutely we prayed and I mean listen, if you can't be safe at a mall, you know there's a problem. Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

It's just a mall.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

I mean, I know. Especially a big hair in the mall.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Con. Um, curses. Curses. No, but I I I I think there's you know, you know, when you feel the energy on on you. Um sometimes I feel that. Yep, yeah. And um I'm a big fan of saging. Yep, yep. Uh-huh. And and um, and I've been doing um so a lot of um moon bathing of my crystals. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's beautiful. And um I got some, I I I made some moon water. Yep. So I am I I'm trying to cleanse. Yeah. Absolutely. Cleansing of energy. Yeah, or too. Because but because I think I need it. Yeah, absolutely. I think we all need it. Yeah, we need to make it accumulate. Absolutely. And if it accumulates and and and and we just leave it stagnant, it will sort of grow and become more powerful and have staying power.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

Yes. And you cystrix? Um, I mean, I've never put a curse on anyone, but um, I have sealed someone, you know, sealing. Um, where a relationship where um I feel I felt as if um it was not um progressing, it was becoming toxic. So um it was someone who was very close to me at one point, and so you do is you write their name, fold it a certain way, and then you put them in the freezer and you freeze that bitch. Okay, how? So that's the extent of that. Alrighty then. And you know who you are, Penguin. Oh, sister, before um, before we go into my again, and for the people who don't know, as I do, how do you make moon water?

SPEAKER_01 28:54

Um, well, um, the way I read about it on Google. Google Um, you uh have to get a glass bowl and um you have to let the water run, and I think you have to let it run over something natural like rocks or or or or something from the earth. Um, which I which I had. Um and um you put it out um on the windowsill where where you know um there'll be direct moonlight and it has to be a full new moon. And that's how I made my sugar. I use it for cleansing, um like you know, um uh for an atomizer. I put it in an atomizer and um like you know um wiping down the hearth. Yep, exactly. Or the threshold of uh of your dwelling and spray it around the dwelling. Spray it around sugar, pretty comfortable.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

It's a new name for that area.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

The threshold.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

The threshold shake the rhyme. Well, I get to it. Pink. Where is she? Uh whale. Okay, what is your weirdest phobia shot eaters?

SPEAKER_00 30:36

Oh can't. Yeah. Of any sort. There are if I'm going for a French fry, this is the example I always use. Oh god. There are two fingers. One French fry.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

The people that dive in, they flop it around your hand up on that fry. And then I like to call them those knuckle depots. See the knuckle depots where they like come in there and then it's like stop it, stop it, and then they go back in. No. That visual is hunching.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

Yes, yes, yes. Why? Why? Why? And then you think of how they can eat other things too, and you're like, Nobody wants to. Actually, that might work. A messy eater might work in some areas. I'm just seeing what I have to deal with.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

I know what you have to deal with.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Sorry. Go ahead. Yes, I think.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Yeah, so that's mine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

Uh-huh. What about Yukon? Um, what what what is it?

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Um phobia. Phobia, yes. I think it changes. Yeah, yeah, it changes. It changes it changes because sometimes, you know, when you're walking around and you're like, oh no, don't go to your right, go to your left. Right, right, right. Um, I I I sometimes question that. Uh-huh. And when I do, I get into trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I always trust it. Is it a phobia of my sort of inner voice? Right. Sometimes. Okay, okay. Because I don't trust it enough.

SPEAKER_04 32:00

Uh-huh.

unknown 32:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

Even even though it screws you. Yeah, yeah. In your um, in in like when you don't listen to it. Right. And then you have to relearn the lesson. But I have to have that poke, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 32:11

Okay, I'll get that. Okay. And yours? Um my pet peeves and and and I I do not like when people pat me on my shoulder or my back. You know, like when they're like, I find it to be the most condescending thing. Like, and regardless of how enlightened and kind and you know, princess of lighty, you know, goddess of, you know, blah, blah, blah, whatever, I want to fucking slap you across your face. Like, I just want to reach down and get into your grill and be like, why the fuck did you just condescend and pat me? And a weak handshake.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

And last one, because they're like in threes for me with this particular situation, is a bad kisser.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

There's nothing more. And also, too, because kissing is very energy. You know what I mean? You have to think about who you're kissing. You know what I mean? Like sometimes you could eat somebody's ass before you kiss them. You know what I mean? And the energy is different. And sometimes eat and hold your mind. Let's hold it. And also, too, like there have been times wherever I have scribbed somebody's toe tricks and eaten their ass before I kissed them because I didn't trust their energy, but the feet were good.

SPEAKER_03 33:17

Go ahead, Con.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

I have a foot phobia. Oh, do you? Oh, I can't. I don't even and I have pretty feet. Yes, you do. I have pretty little. Oh, I love I have pretty little barbecue.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Wait, wait, wait, wait. You've shown her your feet.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Well, I know everything.

unknown 33:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Come on, take a fish.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

No, no, no, tell us your foot story.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

I just, I'm just so, I just, I can't. There's something about a foot I can't. Even when I put lotion on, it is literally.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

We can't have this conversation. Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

I like beat. I'll come over. I'll moisturize them toes. I'm lucky. My husband has the opposite of a foot. Well, not the opposite. I should not give him a kink. But he's not afraid of feet. And I I will say again, I have really pretty feet. I have considered an OnlyFans for the Tozies.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

Go for it.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

I thought about it. I'm starting an army.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

But I need a big one.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Make it. This is America.

SPEAKER_00 34:22

What's next?

SPEAKER_01 34:25

It's a finding Elmo. Yes. Finding Nemo? Nemish. Guardian. Oh, Guardian Angels.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

You are a Bruja. This is my grandmother's coin purse. My mom's mom. And I anytime I do anything that involves a microphone, I pop her in my pocket. Her name is Clotilde Garcia. She was the fiercest. She would not mind if I said she was the fiercest bitch you would have ever met. She raised three girls by herself in the 1950s when her husband died and passed. She before she passed, she told my youngest aunt, she said, take care of him. And she said in Spanish, Cuida Melo porque el es del otro lado, which is take care of him because he's from the other side. She couldn't, she couldn't. She knew, but she didn't know. Right, right. And so she's fabulous. We don't have we don't come from money, so we don't have inheritance. So she gave this to my aunt and told my aunt to give it to me.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 35:37

And my aunt gave it to me, and when I opened it and pulled it out, my very it's all things about me.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

And my very first playbill from the very first show I ever didn't stop it. Is in here. Oh my god. It was called Snow White, I don't think so. And I was I played Prince Sword of Charming.

SPEAKER_01 35:59

That is, but I bring her with me everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

So and I was thinking to myself, I'm with these two wonderful, beautiful, powerful women. How do I tell them about this beautiful, powerful woman that inspired me?

SPEAKER_02 36:11

Baby.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

And then you get Guardian Angels.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

Guardian Angel.

SPEAKER_02 36:15

You guys power of three. Power of three. Power. This is what this show is, you guys. David, you are welcome here anytime. We love you so much. Thank you. And we'll have all the links that you can see and find David Speed everywhere. You guys like, subscribe. We're here every Thursday, sending you blessings, love, and light, and always some brown sugar kisses. What you got, girl?

SPEAKER_01 36:38

I got some chocolate kisses for my uh sugar dumplings. Deuces, motherfuckers, and it was such such a pleasure to meet you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

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