What NYC Nightlife Was Like in the 90s (Before Social Media)

What was New York nightlife really like before phones, influencers, and bottle service?

This week on The Cutting Up, we sit down with East Village legend DJ Gant Johnson to relive the chaos, glamour, and dance-floor magic of 80s and 90s NYC club culture.

We’re talking:

🔥 Crowbar Tuesdays
 🔥 Boy Bar
 🔥 Salon Wednesdays (1993–1999)
 🔥 Pat Fields era fashion
 🔥 Sugar Babies, the legendary Monday night party.

And yes — the time Lina was electrocuted on stage… and the crowd thought it was part of the show.

We get into how nightlife changed when:

📱 Phones hit the dance floor
 📸 Social media killed mystery
 💸 Pay-for-position replaced organic scenes
 🔐 Privacy disappeared

Was the energy better back then — or just different?

For Gant and Lina DJing isn’t just music — it’s spiritual. It’s community. It’s bringing people together.

This episode is a true love letter to the East Village that raised us.

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“The Cutting Up: A Kiki with Connie & Lina” is a Pride House Media production.

Producers: Josh Rosenzweig & Matthew Breen.

Graphic Design by Daryl Raymond.

Original Music by 808 BEACH (John “J-C” Carr & Bill Coleman), courtesy of Peace Bisquit. 

 Production Design by Darryl Dickens. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

You're gonna get it, honey. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_03 0:03

It's time for the cutting up. A Kiki with Connie and Lena.

SPEAKER_04 0:08

This is your backstage pass to all the dish trips. And that's the truth, Ruth. Come on now. Get into it. Con. I'm sorry, I was eating a grape.

SPEAKER_03 0:20

Oh, who's feeding you grapes on the buttons and sugar? We're blind.

SPEAKER_04 0:24

How are you? I'm better now. You look delicious. Oh, so do you. In this Gucci ensemble. No, I was a little blind, so I did a little Helen Keller decided to do braille.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Mama, the Gucci for the Gucci. For the Gucci. For the Gucci. You know what you're giving me in these pants? Well, when you stood up and walked to me on set, was the first time that I told you that I saw you at Pat Fields and you turned to the side and you were like, Oh, where did you go? That's how skinny you look. Oh, thank God. You're welcome, Blanche.

SPEAKER_04 0:56

Thank God. The age is coming for me. And as my mother says, you are old for real now. So you need to watch what you eat and yada yada yada. Moms and boys keep it. I was like, I'm old for real? What?

SPEAKER_03 1:14

What was it pretending for? I know. You're like, this shouldn't be no pause, honey. Hello.

SPEAKER_04 1:18

She didn't have to come for me like that for money. Ma'am, honey, mommy's coming.

SPEAKER_03 1:23

She got the nose on it, like, ah. But the hair is hairing today, honey. Oh my gosh. Is it big enough? It's like has. You know what you're giving me? Bananarama hair, honey. Oh, they had the best hair, honey. Oh, my God. Especially the lead singer, honey. That one. Ooh, right? It was like chunk. Right here, just in the front.

SPEAKER_04 1:41

Chunk.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

Yeah, exactly. We still have to do our um our um 80 single. Exactly. Maul. Maul, and then we have to do new wave look.

SPEAKER_04 1:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:50

Oh my gosh. New romantic. Totally new romantic. Well, I'm feeling something nostalgic today, sugar.

SPEAKER_04 1:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

I'm feeling musically. Musically. I'm feeling an East Village royalty situation with the three of us conjuring legendary DJ Gamjon. Hey! Mr. Agant! Mr. Glunt, Mr. Aghan. How are you?

SPEAKER_06 2:18

Hi.

SPEAKER_04 2:21

Camera one, camera two, camera three.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Glunt, welcome, baby. Well, thank you. You're very welcome. You look delicious, and I'm living for the t-shirt. I'm the one that's. You were looking at my toes. I have X-ray eyes. Let me tell you something about them. Oh, honey.

SPEAKER_04 2:38

Wait, am I the only one who doesn't know about the toe?

SPEAKER_03 2:40

No, you do, Blanche. But honey, Glunt, I'm gonna tell you something. I've been let in. You have been let in. Glunt has probably some of the sexiest toe tricks I have ever seen. Please cover them. I could still see them.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wonder Woman.

SPEAKER_03 2:55

I'm using my Jamie Summers. Seriously, but I don't want to make this whole show about his toe tricks and those gorgeous arches, but god damn. The golden arches.

SPEAKER_04 3:07

Yeah. The golden arches.

SPEAKER_03 3:10

Lanta's good to have you and your toe tricks here. How are you? I'm well. How are you? Better now.

SPEAKER_06 3:16

What an amazing home. Why thank you, Shugar? Of display of Barbies of all censure of all the decades. The decades of Barbies. It was like, I was like, girl, you have insurance for all this?

SPEAKER_04 3:29

What's that commercial about that thing? You sound like your parents. You know that one? Oh, um, uh, where you're turning into your parents, yeah, that commercial.

SPEAKER_03 3:36

It's for insurance or something. It's an insurance. That's you, honey. Okay. Question. What was both of you's first moment um uh meeting each other in the East Falage days? Because let me just give you a little prerequisite to why I asked this question, because this is New York royalty here. Okay. Glunt was, this is before I was DJing, which I just celebrated 30 years. Oh my god. It's crazy. Uh, and one of the reasons why, and I always make reference to that when I get interviewed that Gantt was definitely one of them. Um, Glunt, Gantt, I call him Glunt.

SPEAKER_06 4:07

I don't know where Glunt came from.

SPEAKER_03 4:08

It came from Mona.

SPEAKER_06 4:09

I mean, there's so many versions of my name. I mean Gluntalia. Granite Granite Jackson. Granite Jackson, yeah. All of it. I have a list of them somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 4:20

And you know what? He will turn his head to each one because he knows plant. Plant, plant plant. Plant, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:27

Well, that does mean it it is it is a sign that you're famous. That's the truth. When they fuck with your name. Absolutely. When I was in the Mariah Scary. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_06 4:35

When I was in kindergarten, they said Gant has ants in his pants. Oh, that's hot. It was a little for that sugar.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

Anyway, what I was trying to say before I'm now thinking about what's in his pants and his socks. Oh.

SPEAKER_06 4:50

Um, we've been hitting that moonshine already.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

Sh they don't know about it. Um, was that uh Glunt again? Glunt was um spinning everywhere. And I mean, your your your music taste, your, I mean, opened up the the cock when I was hosting it and he uh glunt. I mean, we'll go down the list, but your your your your um your reference to music and also just your technique has always been one of the things that I absolutely love about your artist. Well, thank you. You are and have always been one of my favorite DJs. And so going to an East Falagier um uh institution back in the day, here in U Spain, bitch, you know you were gonna get wet.

SPEAKER_06 5:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 5:32

I mean, I didn't, but it's usually the people doing the most don't get wet, but I got wettened up the crap. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 5:40

I was always amazed like Dunkin' Nights. Rest in power, Troy Parish. Yes, I mean that was that was kind of the blueprint. The the artist formerly known as Girlina um Tuesday nights at Crowbar across the street from Tompkin Square Park was the cutting up show. That was the cutting up every Tuesday, sugar. And I remember one night when you were on the microphone and you I got electrocuted and you touched the heat pipe and and I really and people thought it was part of the show.

SPEAKER_03 6:08

Right. Because before I started, I was talking to the audience, it was and I touched you remember that pole that was behind the stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I I had the microphone in my hand, and I was like this, and then all of a sudden I'm like this, and people are like, WHAAH! I'm like, I just got electric, I literally felt on the bronze, I got electrocuted. And Troy and Troy was so Troy was on it.

SPEAKER_06 6:26

No, he was so ahead of his time because he had this one like sampler, uh-huh, and he would record her talking during the show. He would loop it. Oh, I got goose. So he started DJing after the show, he would loop it into this track and from stuff that I would be saying on the microphone. It would be this like on the spot remix, which is was way ahead of time.

SPEAKER_03 6:45

I mean, now I have a lot of his tapes live from that time. Oh my god. I have all of them. I mean, honey, my cassette situation. Oh, we need to burn all that.

SPEAKER_06 6:53

We have hundreds, I have six hundred mixed tapes that need to get digitized.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

I got some, I got a lot of yours too. So, my question is I used to sell them at Pat Fields.

SPEAKER_06 7:02

Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Shout out to Lonnie for when it was on Sixth Avenue. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 7:07

Oh my gosh, Lonnie.

SPEAKER_06 7:09

Nishom used to work at Pat Fields. That's right, yeah. He used to tell me stories. Which I won't repeat.

SPEAKER_04 7:16

You got that top to go to my face. Yeah. You got top.

SPEAKER_06 7:20

No, no, it was this lady was shoplifting and um said something extremely offensive to Nisham, and I won't I won't repeat it because it was raw.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

I know she put her together, honey.

SPEAKER_06 7:32

Yeah, well, yeah. And I guess um Pat just closed that store in the Lower East Side, but you know, yeah. Um there's I'm sure there's plenty of um action online for her and oh absolutely. Um yeah, I mean that Pat Field is kind of one of the links that we have. And I mean, I didn't meet Connie until later. No, really?

SPEAKER_03 7:53

That's what my question was.

SPEAKER_06 7:54

Because I I mean I went to Boy Bar from the beginning.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_06 7:58

And when I first came into town, it was like DeAndra. I was like, wow, she she lip-synced the whole Lena Horn dialogue at Carnegie Hall for like eight minutes before the song came on. I was like, Yeah. I was like, how the f how the f did she does. And on point. And then Bunny did the next week I came, Bunny did um think about it, Lynn Collins, which is like she used to try out. Okay, these queens are not playing out here now. I mean, I'm from Chicago. I'm from Chicago originally. Yep. And so Dry Queens in the Midwest at that time were it was more of a clown show.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

It was more and also pagany.

SPEAKER_06 8:30

It was more of a clown show. And I was like, okay, and then I met Afro and Mona. Afro Diddy. Oh my god. Ebony Jet and Linda Simpson and the whole trial. Channel 69 things. You know, those, and then we started doing Salon in '93. Salon Wednesdays. You know, so it was a whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

Now, y'all, uh, Salon Wednesdays was everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:52

Saloon.

SPEAKER_03 8:53

Saloon. And I live right next door, honey.

SPEAKER_06 8:58

She lived above the KFC.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

Ronnie used to come up there all the time.

SPEAKER_06 9:04

You still have those CDJs over there.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

That's right.

SPEAKER_04 9:08

I love Vintology. Those were the everything. Everything. The days. Ooh, I have some great videos from that night.

SPEAKER_06 9:15

Yeah. We have videos, but they're not really the best quality, unfortunately, because the lighting in there wasn't and the sound system was meh. But um, we did that party every week for from 93 to 99, like six and a half years. Just crazy. Which is unheard of.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

Just crazy. Well, that was like sugar babies. Like they were very funny.

SPEAKER_06 9:33

Sugar babies was moved around and then three, four times. I did the bus when they had the bus, and you know, Candace were doing the the flight attendant thing in the in the aisle of the bus. I mean, that was genius. It was genius.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

Sugar air, I called it. We moved it over from the original Sugar Reef on 2nd Avenue to when we moved over to um CBGB's gallery. Then we went over to the bank, and then we went. Oh no, no, we went down to uh the uh the lesbian place down in um Hudson. Okay. Crazy Nanny's oh crazy.

SPEAKER_06 10:01

And then we moved to Irving Plaza for a little bit. Oh, that's from honey. I th I played it, I filled in a couple times. Yeah, you did for sure, yeah. But that was just so y'all know, from Monday night in New York City, that was the greatest. That was one of the greatest Monday night party ever. It really was, and it ran for a long time. Merit, and then Troy Parrish getting it. It was it. Put you together. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 10:22

And no matter how dead you were on the weekend of Monday, honey, you came up in there like church.

SPEAKER_06 10:26

But it was it was like, I always told people that my most successful nights were during the week. Oh, weekdays are always, yeah. You know, then you have the real professional nightlife aficionado and not the bridge and tunnel. And people that come out on a Friday, Saturday night and get amateur night at the Apollo. Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

You know, so because the weekends it's like amateur night at the Apollo, you know what I mean? Bridge and tunnel, trash, you know.

SPEAKER_04 10:51

But Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and and some Thursdays, and some Thursdays, they were all industry. That's right. And you and and these were people who knew the dance floor, knew the DJs, knew the scene.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

Door people, all of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:08

And and and and were there to contribute. That's right. They weren't they weren't just there to like be seen and any of that stuff to go pick up or whatever. Right. They were there contribute to the list. Well, well, but you knew you, you there was not first on the list. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 11:24

Not first on the list. First was the music, then the fashion well, the fashion, then the music.

SPEAKER_06 11:28

Can I get on the list? Exactly. There is a lot of things. I used to have people, I used to have people go. I used to have people call me to get on the list for salon for two dollars. And I was like, you could have made some coins. So you need to stay your ass home if you don't have two dollars.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

Hello, exactly. Oh god, but now you meant they were paying you two dollars to get on the city.

SPEAKER_06 11:45

No, no, that I would get calls for.

SPEAKER_03 11:47

You can't pay two dollars to get in plus two dollars to get in. Yeah, exactly. That's nothing. Because back in the day it used to be five and ten. Yeah. And then factory was twenty.

SPEAKER_06 11:56

Hello. That was a lot.

SPEAKER_03 11:58

That was a lot back then. You don't think about it now, but honey, 20 balls back in the day, honey, it was a lot. You were saving it for Westwood, bitch. Hello.

SPEAKER_06 12:05

They just had the Twilo reunion, and it was like, I forget the tickets. The tickets were fifty or a hundred dollars. I mean crazy.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Just because you have it doesn't give me a few.

SPEAKER_06 12:21

The music is for everyone, and good audio is for sharing people. And you know, one of the things that Frankie instilled in me is that having the best sound system because that's your platform, you know, that's your offering to God and to the Amen.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

There's more to be live by.

SPEAKER_06 12:37

David McClusso, he also said that the dancers are the stars of the party, that's right, not the DJ. And that's one of the principles I try to live through. That's right. Because it's different now. That one, you know, the boiler room aesthetic where they have all those kids like right in the booth, like literally on top of the DJ. It's you know, it's it it's it's publicizing the DJ's sure online and twitch with the pandemic and all that kind of changed things, but you know, it's it's not really about that. You know, you when you came into factory, you go down that ramp and then junior or Frank, you'd be up there. You're not going up there to stick a phone in his face or to make a request or you know, any of no nonsense. It was like, well, that's where the DJ is up there. It's not he's not a sanctuary, it's not a show on the stage. That's that's how it is now.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

Come give the sacrifice and dance your ass off on your show of love.

SPEAKER_04 13:29

They were conductors, and and and the dancers and the crowd were the orchestra and the instruments, yeah, and the sort of um the the the worker bees of the energy. Yep, yep. But now it's like it's it it's like Diane Brill said, pay for play. Yeah, yeah, or play or or pay for position.

SPEAKER_06 13:51

Yes. Right, and phones if people want to have that.

SPEAKER_04 13:55

Yeah, it's like they're they're to be seen. Yeah. They're not dancing, they're not talking, they're they uh but you're there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 14:03

Why do you need to it cuts both ways, I think, also because there's people that maybe couldn't make it that want to see what it was like or what what track because I'll listen to oh, I'll see oh Danny Tanegali was DJing in Abisa, let me let me hear what he was playing for a minute or whatever. But at the same time, it does subtract the energy from the dance floor, and people get bored, and what do they do? Pull out. I mean, I'm guilty of it myself. You'd be over at somebody's house or at a party, whatever. Oh, let me look at my phone or yeah, text messages, or whatever, you know. I'll be home all day and the phone makes no noise, and I go out and hang out with people that I really want to be with, and the phone will be like blip, blip, blip, blip.

SPEAKER_04 14:39

Because I I I I think it's sort of programming too. Yeah. Um, it's um it's such a part of us, and it's so um convenient that it's now habit to always like, oh, let me check our unconditional, let me see. That's too much. That's too many. Yeah, it is too much.

SPEAKER_06 15:00

Yeah, too many social media and all these Twitter, all of it. Meeting, dating, online dating or app dating is too.

SPEAKER_03 15:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 15:10

I did that in LA. It was garbage. Awful, awful.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

I lived in LA for five years, it was garbage. It's it's there's a disconnect, you know what I mean? It's not natural for us to be able to get everything on a fucking device. You know, like I've I've said this a million times. We come from the school of touch, feel, smell. I want to know and touch my produce and I want to smell my shit. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 15:31

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 15:36

Is that what you're calling it now?

SPEAKER_06 15:38

Produce?

SPEAKER_03 15:39

Yeah, not delivery of the journal. Hey!

SPEAKER_05 15:42

She's a producer of produce. Producing that'd be a good name for a party. That would be produce produce.

SPEAKER_04 15:52

Work, exactly. In a special high school.

SPEAKER_06 15:54

I'll give you that one for free.

SPEAKER_04 15:56

Yeah, for free. But you know what some clubs are doing are you checking your phone.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 16:05

Yeah. No, that's cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

You should want to be present. I mean, the whole point of going out is going out. But also these kids.

SPEAKER_06 16:12

These kids that came up with cell phones or smartphones, and then the pandemic have no social skills. No, no, no. So they want to hide in their phone. Yeah, yeah. Like you ever try to like call somebody or you you text and and like Instagram direct message with somebody, and then you call them, it's a whole different person. Like, they don't want to talk on the phone.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Oh, they don't know how. They don't have social skills.

SPEAKER_06 16:34

Like, they I feel like they're even trying to get rid of the phone part of the phone because they want to scoop your your information off of your text messages. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And your email or your whatever.

SPEAKER_04 16:44

What did you say at 537 today? Right? Right. Or they nailed the I like vanilla ice cream. Uh huh. Oh, so you like vanilla? It's like a chicken. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really crazy.

SPEAKER_06 16:57

It's really crazy. The phones are listening like whatever.

SPEAKER_04 17:00

Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:01

Yeah. Because we were on the beach one time and um I had my phone off at Re-Speech because it doesn't really work out there. And we were talking about they have, you know, those Tommy Bahama backpack chairs. We were talking about that product. I come home and there's ads for that in my phone. I was like, what? Like the phone wasn't even turned on.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Yeah. Baby, baby. There's these new little things that they have to put over your camera so that it's not filming you.

SPEAKER_04 17:29

But because um have you gotten the like, you know, the cryptic email? Oh, we have been watching you and you're gonna be. Oh my god, creepy Sheena, right? It's just like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_03 17:40

Yeah, I haven't gotten that one yet. Well, honey, oh well, even with my Alexa one time, I was having relations in my bedroom. No, no, bitch. And I said something, honey, and she said, You want me to walk? I was like, I was like, and he gagged. He's like, Who's that?

SPEAKER_04 17:55

I was like, uh Alexa, turn hair south. Oh my god, that's I'm turning.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

It was uh kid, kid, honey.

SPEAKER_05 18:06

I gagged, honey. I don't have one of those in my house.

SPEAKER_06 18:10

She's listening to sugar. Right, no, I'm gonna get tracked by Amazon. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 18:20

So, so, so anyway, we were talking about So the qu the question was where where where where did you first see Lena?

SPEAKER_06 18:33

Ooh. I I feel like it was it must have been crowbar. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

It was probably crowbar.

SPEAKER_06 18:43

Because you you didn't really fall into the boy bar thing till later.

SPEAKER_03 18:46

I mean, uh yeah, it was after it was after boy bar. After crowbar, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:50

Because SpaceCon, I mean, uh you had that on your YouTube page and then it was gone, and we I was like, where did it go? No.

SPEAKER_03 18:58

I mean, God, you could go to the city.

SPEAKER_06 19:00

Tom Eubanks is is is restoring all those. You've seen those that shout out to um um Lynn Wake.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

And also, too, you know who's got a lot of legendary um footage too, who I spoke to around the pandemic time, who I need to follow back up with, honey, is Michael Wakefield, honey. Yeah, Michael Wakefield has got some fucking shit.

SPEAKER_06 19:19

He's got a lot of stuff from the Tom Sullivan archive as well. Yeah, yeah. He lived with Lahoma and Larry T and Ninth Avenue down there. All the homeless.

SPEAKER_04 19:29

No, right, right, right on the corner.

SPEAKER_06 19:30

She's the best one. She's a good one. She really honey.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

The tilted building.

SPEAKER_06 19:34

It's like a coffee shop now.

SPEAKER_04 19:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:36

I think it was like five Ninth Avenue or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

Like, you know what it just came through my memory? Remember when we used to have our uh badminton sets uh uh up in Thompson? Oh, we got one right here. And try and pickleball? No, no, no. Me, me, Nisham.

SPEAKER_06 19:55

But wait, why is it called pickleball? There's no, I don't get it. There's no pickle pickle. If there were pickles, I wouldn't. I would get it.

SPEAKER_04 20:00

It looks like pattleball. But is it is the shovelcock?

SPEAKER_02 20:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

Is the is that supposed to be the pickle? Or is it a phone? No, no, no, no. It's a ball. No, this is a badminton. So talk about Batman. But that's not pickleball. It's like slightly bigger ping pong, like pink pong.

SPEAKER_06 20:17

It's like a tennis ball, but it's almost it's like a smaller tennis court.

SPEAKER_04 20:21

And it's just as light.

SPEAKER_03 20:23

It's it's a ball. It's a ball. It's so it's been literally like this. That the stupid what is it called?

unknown 20:28

Like a racquetball.

SPEAKER_04 20:31

But is it perforated? Is that the pickleball? It looks like a tennis call.

SPEAKER_06 20:34

It's just stupid douche bag people thinking. I think it's a heavier tennis ball. I don't get it. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

But anyway, me and Nisham and um Shaquita and Glunt, we had literally, we had people watching us. We would get there at like, what, noon? Yeah. And be there till like four or five weeks.

SPEAKER_05 20:50

We did, oh, it got heated.

SPEAKER_06 20:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:52

Shaquita was Shaq. Shaq trying to run a bitch around, honey. Shaq!

SPEAKER_06 20:57

Shaq.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

Shout out to Shaq. Shout out to Shaq, Shaquita. Uh we were in it.

SPEAKER_06 21:05

Because we've me and Shaquita played, and the winner bought bought the winner got the loser to buy lunch. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She loved my I whipped her ass in Badminton and I didn't get that lunch for years.

SPEAKER_03 21:18

Years. You cheated! Shaquita was shady honey on them court final.

SPEAKER_06 21:24

We played on Tompkins Square Park. Literally right where the stage was. Yep, right where the stage was. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:29

There was that thing. And people would literally like sit down and watch us. We were in it. We take a little break, but we were, it was a day. Bitch, we were that was so much fun.

SPEAKER_06 21:39

It was great. I mean, God, that was like 26 years ago.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

Yes, you were babysitting me sugar.

SPEAKER_06 21:46

It was in 19.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

That was so I don't know why I just thought about that right now. That was so much fun.

SPEAKER_06 21:53

Well, also, like, just to you know, to be a hundred percent, like there's one thing when you have friends from nightlife. But when you kick it during the day, baby, that's family. That's that's a little different. What do you do too much?

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_06 22:07

Well, you guys, you know, that's like Wonder Twin Powers.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

She needs some activator. That's our song girl. Needed some activator. Activate. Activate.

SPEAKER_06 22:23

But that was one of the things that brought me and Nisham so close. Baby. Like we live nearby. Yep. We would we came up with so many. We came up with so many ridiculous parties and shows and everything. Between Star Search and Faggot Feud and Rock and Soul. Like just ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

Fuck man. We came from good times, right?

SPEAKER_04 22:45

Yes. And and and and times that created the energy that they are now sucking for now.

SPEAKER_03 22:52

Yes, yes, yes, sister.

SPEAKER_06 22:53

It's kind of, you know, everything's been kind of done. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:56

It's recycled, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:57

But if you do it again, a lot of the kids aren't they weren't there when you did it before.

SPEAKER_03 23:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:04

Yeah. Yeah. So it's a good idea. Good music is good music.

SPEAKER_03 23:08

Like right, but but don't actually, like you said, don't ask for $120 to the children who've been there because, first of all, you're only going to get those people. Which I heard, excuse me, Kevin, when we had him on, he said that it was just, you know, it was everyone from back in the day.

SPEAKER_06 23:22

Where was this?

SPEAKER_03 23:23

At the Twilight thing. At the Twilo reading.

SPEAKER_06 23:26

I went on the Friday. On the first night? Yeah. Desmond put me on the list because I wasn't going to pay $50.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

I thought you said it was $120.

SPEAKER_06 23:34

For tickets. Oh, for tickets. Because it was like Friday was the preview. And then Danny Spider. Saturday was the full line. Friday was it was so crowded. I didn't and I didn't recognize anybody. And I was like, Really? The layout was weird. I'm not trying to disrespect the city. No, no, no, no, no, no. But we were there. Hold on. It'd be great if that came back. But that's you know, to run a club that big in Manhattan is really not that life anymore. It's not sustainable between the costs, the neighbors, the same the And everything's out in Brooklyn if you want the big experience, which is crazy. Yeah. I mean, I've actually never been to Knockdown Center, but I've seen I've seen videos of it online.

SPEAKER_04 24:15

I was like, it's also changed a lot because when I used to Brooklyn Mirage, unfortunately, they can have it is out there because it's an industrial neighborhood. Right, right, right.

unknown 24:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:27

So, you know, you're not, you're not um sort of encroaching on my three million dollar home and my baby. Yes. And my baby and my dog. But they put it through.

SPEAKER_06 24:40

It's amazing. I don't know if y'all have been to Xanadu, that roller disco appearance.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

Wait, whoa no, excuse me?

SPEAKER_06 24:46

It's called Xanadu? It's called Con, we gotta go. It's they've it's the full fantasy. Wait, what? It's smack dab in the middle of a residential neighborhood. I was like, how did they girl?

SPEAKER_04 24:59

We gotta go. I know.

SPEAKER_06 25:01

I still have my skate, so you know I do too, honey. You need to go. Hello.

SPEAKER_03 25:05

We have got to go.

SPEAKER_06 25:06

I mean, they've had 718 sessions there. They've had Paradise Garage reunions there.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

How do I not know this? Oh my god. Girl, I wouldn't mind spinning sugar, but no, I gotta be up and thinking about it. No, I've I mean I I've spin with the Horse Street Boys. Horse Street. Horse Street Boys and Test. Josh Wood is Manhattan. He's Manhattan. No, no, no, at Knockdown Center. Yeah, but he's Manhattan fish. But I did not know about Xanadu. I was on a roller skating team, so you know I can cut up.

SPEAKER_06 25:37

We've roller skated together before as well. I used to rollerblade my ass off hanging on to taxis. I'm lucky I'm still alive because I mean I would have been under a bus if you know trying this shit now with the the way the paper is. My rollerblades literally fellows. And the bus lanes and all of the I ride my bike in the bus lanes because those bike lanes are changing.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

It's a video game for Glunt and I are both bikers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 26:01

Yeah. Well.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

Well, what? Oh, just that's stupidity, honey. Because you need to have some proper points to ride at that tan. Look at that tan. Is that from the sun?

SPEAKER_06 26:12

This is this is what 400. I did 400 miles of riding last week because it was warm. Wow. This is what it looks like. With his gloves on. Your gloves, yeah. I have web gloves, so it looks like Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_03 26:23

It's so hot though. It's kind of gorgeous. It is, right?

SPEAKER_06 26:26

Well, you know, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_03 26:28

Are you Childrick's tan shit?

SPEAKER_06 26:31

No, I I have cycling shoes.

SPEAKER_03 26:33

I know, I've seen your gear.

SPEAKER_06 26:34

Although I have ridden in my flip-flops to the beach.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

Do you have a video?

SPEAKER_06 26:38

No, no, you're you're you like the fancy beach. I don't think you would come down to Reese Beach.

SPEAKER_03 26:44

That's a little bit Reese's pieces.

SPEAKER_06 26:50

Those would probably melt there, but yes.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

My face is up here.

SPEAKER_06 26:56

The produce. Fresh produce.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

Fresh.

SPEAKER_06 27:03

Fresh. Yeah. Fresh melons.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

Melon. Look, look, probably getting very dizzy.

SPEAKER_06 27:12

Now see that cackle. When I came, when I come came over today, I heard the cackle down the hall. I was like, okay, she lives down here. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:21

Follow the direction of the cackle. Yes. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 27:25

Candace cackle. How is Candace? Have you talked to her?

SPEAKER_03 27:32

So, question. Where did you remember meeting Glunt?

SPEAKER_04 27:37

I I I um I think it was not Sugar Babies. What was uh what was before Sugar Babies? Salon. Salon.

SPEAKER_06 27:50

Wait, I don't know. No, Salon was second. I I wish I could remember. I don't know. It wasn't Pat Fields.

SPEAKER_04 27:56

No, it was it was at the club. It was at the club, and it was either a fashion show or something that we were doing. With Pat. With David. With David, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:10

Was it Supper Club? Was it Poop?

SPEAKER_04 28:12

Oh my god, Poop. It might have been poop.

SPEAKER_06 28:14

Because Eric Conrad.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

Well, Conrad, you used to do the door at the that was my first time. Over near um uh it was called Poop, you guys. It was near Club Club USA. I was up in the um It was 40 street.

SPEAKER_06 28:26

42nd Street, yeah. I used to go to Popeye's and get fried. No, I used to no no this is this was my popcorn shrub. It was my Friday. That was my Friday. I would go up to I would take my records to Supper Club and put them under the booth, and then I would go get fried chicken, and then I would go play video games on Times Square. That that spot right.

SPEAKER_03 28:46

You are so black, Lon. I live, I live, I live.

SPEAKER_06 28:49

Was the arcade like a couple days down there? Yeah, yeah. From from when the Howard Johnson's was there. It was my god I would play Miss Pac-Man and Galaga to get my nerves together to get ready to mix and get and get the it kind of was the one.

SPEAKER_03 29:05

Fried chicken and video games, honey. How you though?

SPEAKER_06 29:07

Right, and then and then turn out the party. But we had we had some good nights there. We had like we had La India, we had a little alternate, we had yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

I still have those flyers. Yeah, those I have them too, yeah. Oh god. I love memory lane. All right, you want a little fishbowl? Yes, please. Let's do the fishbowl sugar. Little palmala's hands, please.

SPEAKER_06 29:29

I'm allergic.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

Thank you, sugar.

unknown 29:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:33

Shake it like a little bit. So you're gonna shake it and then you're gonna pick out one and you're gonna read it. Pick a fish and tell us what it is. This is like the price is right.

SPEAKER_06 29:40

How you doing?

SPEAKER_03 29:41

Hello?

SPEAKER_06 29:42

If I didn't live here, I've moved around a lot, so I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03 29:45

No, you gotta read it. Wait, wait, wait, wait. If I didn't live here.

SPEAKER_04 29:47

Okay, you answer first. Oh, wait, you keep her.

SPEAKER_06 29:50

I'm staying here. I left Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, I left New York in 2012. I lived in Denver for four years, and I lived in um LA for five years, and that was quite enough. Yeah. I mean, having a car alone is Yeah, I know. It's like having a baby. It's a nightmare, it's a nightmare. And I'm so glad that I I left because like you appreciate your home. Now gas prices and car insurance is all just insane.

SPEAKER_03 30:15

There goes the uncle from the the whatchamacallit, the insurance company.

SPEAKER_04 30:18

Yeah, and I remember when when you left and it was just like Yeah, oh my god, it was like New York is like it was people.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

There was a whole moment like that.

SPEAKER_04 30:31

It was like the it was like the earth shifted access. And it's just like a little bit of a few.

SPEAKER_06 30:36

Well, there was also kind of it got cute for a couple of DJs. I'm not gonna say who, but it got real cute for them after I left. Yes, honey. Hello.

SPEAKER_04 30:45

Um, okay, wait, what was the cause of the thing?

SPEAKER_03 30:47

I have to figure it out.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

If I didn't live here, if I didn't live here, the only other place I think I could live would be Can I guess Italy.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

It'll yeah, it'll say Idols for you. Yeah. Oh Santa.

SPEAKER_04 31:03

Milan, Florence, anywhere in Itals.

SPEAKER_03 31:09

Yeah. Um New York. I I I mean, I I've lived a few other places. There's just nothing like New York. Where else? I lived in Lavagier when you lived there. Um, and then I lived in uh London, and then I lived in Montreal. Yeah. New York.

SPEAKER_06 31:26

I mean, I only saw you that one time at uh Sam's pool party in LA.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

I lived there for four years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:33

But I never saw you. I never saw you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the only time I saw you.

SPEAKER_04 31:39

Because it's car culture and it's like to go to the making plans with people with your nightmare.

SPEAKER_06 31:46

Yeah. And I rode my bike more than I drove.

SPEAKER_03 31:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:49

Wow. Yeah. Like I rode all up.

SPEAKER_03 31:51

80's face was at the lounge last Friday. What's that? 80's Face was at the lounge last Friday.

SPEAKER_06 31:55

Who's that? Sam. I didn't know you called him. Yeah, that's his name. I saw the pictures.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

I call him 80's face, yes. Okay. He's one of the good guys. He's amazing. Come on, stick it in. Oh, stick it in.

SPEAKER_04 32:08

Stick it. Stick it. Um, so this is a penguin. Yeah, we've had her before. We have Penguin, how would you know? Okay. Favorite Saturday morning cartoon. Oh, easy. You said it actually earlier. Pink Panther.

SPEAKER_06 32:22

Pink Panther. Pink Panther. No talking. It's just jazzy music and sound effects. He was Pink Panther. Pink Panther. Pink Pantheress.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

You better work a lot. Pink Panther. What's your favorite? Wonder Twin. Wonder Twin Power. Honey, the the The Super Friend. I was going to say the human league. The Super Friend. Yes. The Super Friends, but especially when it was just the uh the Wonder Twins. I lived for the Wonder Cat.

SPEAKER_06 32:56

Well they kept adding.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

They kept adding them.

SPEAKER_06 32:57

And then, you know, like when a cartoon started to get played out, they would try to add characters. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because of Josie and the Pussycat.

SPEAKER_03 33:03

Oh, Josie and the Pussycat was my other one.

SPEAKER_06 33:05

And then they tried to make it Josie and the Pussycats in outer space. Which was fierce. And they had to be a few years. There was one year where I for Halloween I dressed up as Bleep Bleep. Oh, it was a nightmare. It was I I I got a white Ty Vek. No, it was so stupid. I got a white Tyvek um painting jumpsuit. Please tell me you have a photo. And I I I don't know. I stapled white triangles all over it. And all those staples started to cut me, and it just I've cutting up sugar. It was not, it wasn't it was not cute. And then and then it all just kind of turned into paper mache and it was just like DJing with a costume on is not cute.

SPEAKER_03 33:42

It just never well, if it's functionable sugar. I mean, come on, I don't know about staples, honey.

SPEAKER_06 33:47

Yeah, I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

Look at my present looking, I don't know. That's fine. I do not so cheap before.

SPEAKER_06 33:55

You got that department covered. I don't need to do that. Department covered because it's the girls would the girls would want me to do drag so many times. I got asked, I got asked to do it. I was like, you would open toe heels on? I was like, you guys got it locked. I don't need to do it.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

Come on, God, let's show our audience how beautiful the feet are sugar. Oh, is it my turn?

SPEAKER_04 34:20

We've got one more. It's my turn. Oh, that's right. Uh uh Favorite Saturday. Oh, yeah. Um well it would it would start with Bugs Bunny. Uh-huh. But it's it's in the back of my head and I can't think about it. Would you poo?

SPEAKER_06 34:36

Jackson Five cartoon. Yeah, well. Oh my god. That was oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

Um no, but it would start. Uh oh god. Exit stage. Snaggle. Snaglepus. Snagglepus. Snagglepus. The thumb and the yary is okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:53

You have to shake it for me. Okay. All right, we got one last one. Okay. I don't have my glasses on, shit. I can't see.

SPEAKER_06 35:02

She's always putting her hands where they don't belong.

SPEAKER_03 35:05

Okay. Hey, I know what them toe tricks are. Fresh produce. What's her? What's that?

SPEAKER_04 35:11

It's a whale.

SPEAKER_03 35:13

Excuse me.

SPEAKER_04 35:15

That's a tuna.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

Gucci. Good book. Um, where did you first feel beautiful? Wait, is that right? Huh? Oh, when did you first feel beautiful? I'm getting a glare on these glasses. Um, when did I first feel beautiful? Oh, sorry, answer.

SPEAKER_06 35:40

Oh, I don't know. I wasn't keeping track.

SPEAKER_03 35:43

When did you first feel beautiful?

SPEAKER_06 35:45

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

I don't really know. I didn't write it down. What about now? Do you feel hot? Do you feel beautiful?

SPEAKER_06 35:54

This is a family program.

SPEAKER_05 35:56

Wrong show, sugar. Your agent sent you to the wrong place. I thought it was gonna be PG 13. I thought this was going to be Chris. I'm up down and I'm feeling all this way.

SPEAKER_06 36:08

I'm getting a nosebleed.

SPEAKER_03 36:11

It's not that kind of party. Oh, param pa. You could be it could be now because we think you're beautiful, Glenn.

SPEAKER_06 36:17

I mean, I have to say probably when I'm cycling, because that's when it's just me. And nature. I mean, and God and the route. It's it's yeah, it's the ultimate. I mean, I have so many pictures of when I was riding, and I I love your passion for it. 20, what is it, like 20 some years ago, I started doing rides for charity. I used to do the AIDS ride in California every year. Unfortunately, that ended. Um, so I'm I'm doing a couple of rides this year. One's for cancer and the other one is for housing work. So I'm constantly. So it keeps me engaged with my training and you know, always like something to gun for. It's like, oh, well, there are rides coming up.

SPEAKER_04 36:56

I better and a purpose. A purpose for your passion.

SPEAKER_06 37:00

Because like a lot of like cycling with racing is more just ego, ego, ego, right, right, right. Fees group rides and stuff. And you know, I ride when I can. Right, yeah. So I've been really lucky to be able to ride in New York City and not have any accidents. Right, knock on yet, knock what everyone say a prayer for me on that. Amen to that. Yeah. Hopefully, we can link up my um.

SPEAKER_03 37:25

Yes, absolutely. That's what I already said. Absolutely. Yes, please. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 37:31

Unfortunately, because of the corporate sponsorships, um, they're afraid of DEI uh crackdown. A lot of the rides have ended or been minimized. Like the one in California got split off into two different rides. Oh no. Smaller local rides because the corporate sponsorship wasn't there. Basically, when you're doing fundraising events, it's like you have to spend two dollars to make a dollar. Yeah, yeah. So it's it's it's tricky with the economy and people, you know, to get places.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

Oh, we'll absolutely have that up, sweetheart. Oh, and by the way, shout out to our brother uh James Skelly. Jamestown. If you're in Hudson, New York, that's right. I got that one too. I got them in like four colors. Oh, there's more. Oh no. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_06 38:11

I'll have to ride when it you have to ride up. I I was you know, I have told him I was gonna ride up there sometime.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

So you'll have to come drive up with us, honey. We're gonna drive up when we're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_06 38:21

Well, you guys can be my my safety then.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

Yeah, or you can just tag onto the back of the car, honey. And sandals.

SPEAKER_06 38:26

I may not need to, I may not need to. Put on your rollerblades.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 38:33

I don't have any rollerblades, they fell apart. I need to get some.

SPEAKER_03 38:36

We need to do Xanadu though. But uh Con answer that question before we Oh yeah, sorry. Yeah, that's okay. Beautiful. But honestly, that's working blunt.

SPEAKER_06 38:43

I I love DJing too. It's I know cycling and DJing are.

SPEAKER_03 38:47

But if you're special with your with your biking, darling, and I love that.

SPEAKER_06 38:50

It's yeah, I I'm really lucky to bless to have it.

SPEAKER_03 38:53

We're blessed for it, darling. That's why you're here. That's how I got here today.

SPEAKER_06 38:57

It was fucking it was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 39:00

And and New York is a great town for it, too.

SPEAKER_06 39:03

Yeah, it is if you have the the talent or the nerve, and what's the all of it, yeah. The the gall, the nerve, the yeah, whatever. It because the traffic is very uh intimidating. But there's a rhythm to it, and with so long, are you? When there's one-way streets, it makes it a little bit easier, but you have to really anyone who's a a cyclist or thinking about being a cyclist, the number one thing you have to really look out for is the um electric e-bike.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

Oh, they're so shady, honey.

SPEAKER_06 39:33

Scooters, oh feats, yeah, yeah, postmates, those electric bikes, honey, and those motorcycles.

SPEAKER_03 39:40

You should not be on these trails.

SPEAKER_06 39:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:42

And and you shouldn't be on the sidewalks.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

Thank you. That's another one. Yeah, don't give me a sidewalk. That is how to tell you, and I've I've never had an accident either, but honey, the way they zoom, I'm just like they don't care. Slow your fucking roll. They don't care. And there's signs all of it saying do not drive on this if you're electric. Okay, answer the special question. That's shady. When did you feel um uh the most beautiful sweetheart?

SPEAKER_04 40:07

I guess when I'm working, when I'm creating art. I feel I I feel as as one with myself, and and everything else falls away, and I am creating, so I'm at one with myself. And that's when I feel most beautiful. That is beautiful. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

Um for me, I think that um as I you know grown into my spirituality, um, I found giving myself grace and luxury to love myself in a way that I couldn't before. So there's that that leads me to my answer. Um uh I found in 30 years of DJing that there is this beautiful power that I hold over people and that I have found in myself, and that makes me feel beautiful. That empowerment of bringing people together with music and dancing and having fun. That's that's my beauty. That's my moment.

SPEAKER_06 41:08

There's that one picture of you DJing in Fire Island where you're over the balcony. Oh, yeah, yeah. That one picture that sealed it because you've you really flipped the script out there as far as like the music that got played and the you know the crowd. Yeah, and because before, I mean, I personally I haven't DJ'd out there that much. It's very political, yeah, it's very um gatekeeping and politics that I don't want to be a part of. Yeah, but you've you definitely left your mark there, you know, as far as changing it up and and getting other kinds of music out there besides the same.

SPEAKER_03 41:44

It was all white and and and very circuity before. Absolutely, and thank you for that, Glant, because it, you know, and when I we'll we'll we'll wrap it up after this, but in 2005, when they asked me to, I was like, why are you asking this? Yeah. I mean, it's the most furthest thing from what was happening. When Eric, when he owned the properties, Eric van Um Kirsten, I can never say his last name. Shout out, Eric, how you doing? Um, and they had approached me, and I'm like, this is the furthest thing from everything that that island had ever been. And representing it. And represent it. But I knew that there was something and a reason why they were asking me, and that I needed to take the Pepsi challenge. So to see that I did that for 10 years and, you know, bring flavor, give them flavor on visual and musically, I mean, I was spending four nights a week, fry Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and all different music from you know, Rewind Thursday, my 80s night to Lena's Lounge on Friday and Saturday, go big or go home, and then my TBS throw black Sunday disco party. I schooled those children.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:44

And to see that now turning back to the church. Thank you. And now to see that come back full, uh, full, full, full circle and what they're doing and returning after 12 years has been amazing. So I glad that I took that challenge and did it. Yeah, yeah. Glunt, you are amazing. This has been beautiful having you, sweetheart.

SPEAKER_04 43:04

And I am so honored to be to be in the presence of like you know, honey. Two two two of like the great conductors of dance floors.

SPEAKER_06 43:17

Well, but you paved the way for us too.

SPEAKER_04 43:19

No, she did a cartwheel.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

Ah!

SPEAKER_06 43:20

Well, she was like major at Boy Bar before I got here. Yeah, yeah. Because I see the videos, and then I remember when Cody rest in power. When Cody passed, I saw the video of you doing the whole entire um Donna Summer, MacArthur Park doing cartwheels on stage and all that. And I was just like, okay, that's untouchable. Nobody else is gonna do that in heels. Yeah, that's I mean, link the video in the video. Hello, all of it. Yeah, I mean, because that's what it, that's what it is. I mean, you you were paying tribute to and you know, you and and and Cody were the first. Trans people that I ever met. And so I always held held you guys to the light as the blueprint. Yeah. Because I was like, okay, this is what it is. It's not blunt. Some fucking freak show. Yeah. It's not these are this is legit. Like this is it's not it's not a clown show. It's not a drag show. This is like serious.

SPEAKER_04 44:20

You are it is a a person and their being and who they are. Of course. I mean thank you. Oh my gosh. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 44:29

You're giving me tears underneath these glasses. What are those bifocals? You guys, we're here every Thursday. Thank you so much. Like, subscribe. Glunt, we love you. You're welcome anytime, darling. I'm sending you. With the sandals.

SPEAKER_06 44:44

I'll ride up here in my sandals when it's warm.

SPEAKER_04 44:47

He'll be back next week, Sharda. How are you guys? He's coming back in this. Guess who's going to be so happy?

SPEAKER_03 44:53

Salvation Army. Oh.

SPEAKER_06 44:57

I'll be here every week then.

SPEAKER_03 45:01

Y'all sending you blessings, love, and light. Now we some brown sugar kisses. What you got, girl?

SPEAKER_04 45:05

I got some loving for my sugar dumplings and some deuces, bitches. Deuces. Aye, y'all. Ciao. Ciao na blanca.

SPEAKER_03 45:18

Oh, shoes, shoes, shoes. Take your sock off. Shoes. Shoes. Shoes. Foot. Foot. Oh, sorry. Bye. Ain't all is right over there. I couldn't see him in his glasses. Our show is produced by Josh Rosenspock and Matthew Breen. Our gorgeous graphics are by Daryl Raymond. Our theme music is You Need It. Produced and written and performed by 808 Beach, John J.C. Carr, and Bill Coleman. Courtesy of Peace Biscuit. Our perfect production designer is Daryl Dickens. This season's hair has been done by the heavenly hair goddess herself, Mariah. Our very special thanks to Jason Canner for all your wonderful support. The cutting up is a Pride House Media production.