Drag Legend Shequida, The Roxy & Boy Bar: ’90s NYC Nightlife Tea

This week on Cutting Up:
 Roxy. Boy Bar. Mars. Absolute chaos.

The legendary Shequida joins us to spill iconic ’90s NYC nightlife tea — from first seeing Lady Bunny at Mars to getting into The Roxy on opening night and navigating the East Village vs. big‑club wars.

We get into:
 ✨ Boy Bar boyfriend drama that sparked a full confrontation
 ✨ Connie’s extreme corset era (and the trauma that followed)
 ✨ The ongoing Fluevog shoe saga (broken… then stolen)
 ✨ Being the first drag queen in a recurring national TV role on One Life to Live

Plus gatekeeping, attitude accusations, shoe wars, shared men tea, and why holding the door open for others to enter matters the most.

It’s New York drag history. It’s ’90s nightlife warfare. It’s glamorous survival.

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“The Cutting Up: A Kiki with Connie & Lina” is a Pride House Media production.

Producers: Josh Rosenzweig & Matthew Breen.

Graphic Design by Daryl Raymond.

Original Music by 808 BEACH (John “J-C” Carr & Bill Coleman), courtesy of Peace Bisquit. 

 Production Design by Darryl Dickens. 

Our very special thanks to Jason Kanner for all your support.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

You're gonna get it, honey. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_04 0:03

It's time for the cutting up. A Kiki with Connie and Lena.

SPEAKER_03 0:08

This is your backstage pass to all the dish fish. And that's the truth, Ruth. Come on now. Get into it. Ow, con, welcome back. Hi, Lena. How are you? Delicious. How are you? Looking all slinky and a bra top and a and and a oh my god. It's actually a cat sugar. The world could be your gynecologist.

SPEAKER_04 0:33

Do you remember uh my um last year, uh right before this time when I had my um exhibit for the for my dolls and remember the pink dress I had on? This is the black version of it. Wow. Yeah, multiple. Which actually is uh was our photo that we used to promote this show in the beginning. Yes. Yes, yes, yeah. And I bought it in black because you know, if I like something and they got in a couple colors, I'm like, oh I got a black, and I've never worn it. So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna wear it on the show. Hello, a silk shamou. Shamou sugar. And baby, this goate carrying on is the ooh la. Well, well, it's um a designer of Coco Canal.

SPEAKER_03 1:05

Yeah. It's a Coco Canal. Well, um, after they reissued it, I went on the site and I got the bodysuit. The bodysuit with the hood in blues and purples. Gorgeous. And I'm walking down Flatbush Avenue, and out of the corner of my eye, I see this in a two-piece. You're like, bitch. And then I'm just like, like a zombie, I walked into the store, and they had this dress, a two-piece, and like a two-piece uh like you can't clock.

SPEAKER_04 1:38

And you just want that coin on the thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

I do, I I know, on the original. But to you know, the calming of my heart, they didn't have the bodysuit.

SPEAKER_04 1:49

Perfect. Well, but now you have this and a bodysuit, which is great. Because you can always roll that down and wear it as a skirt with the bodysuit. I'm just saying, you know, your neck ain't that thick. You can fit that skinny body through that neck, honey, is what I'm saying, honey. That wasn't a read. Okay. Don't listen to a hateful voice that I feel coming from Seaquas, New Jersey. Ladies and gentlemen, the real house lines of Heehawk's New Jersey. Shoclina!

SPEAKER_01 2:16

He Hawkins. Oh my goodness, this is a thrill. Talent, icons, icons, talent all in one room. And me.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

An icon.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

I'm the fluff. Another. So uh before we even start, I was just gonna say, like, we you're talking about the fashions. I literally said to my husband today, like when we're getting ready, uh, I was like, uh, I was going to wear this Mugler suit, and then I was like, oh no, I can't wear Mugler in front of Colorado. Girl, she will spook that fake Mougler in a minute.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

But a fake Mugler, but I want to.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

So I said, you know, I'll I'll just put on a little homemade look, honey. You look amazing. Your skin is amazing.

SPEAKER_04 3:00

I was just saying, the skin is skinning.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

It's for years of makeup, honey. It's just seeped in the pores. It's just caked in, honey. Caked in. Trust.

SPEAKER_04 3:07

I said to you before we started, I was like, Queen, did you just go wear somewhere? Of course, she's called me John Dish because I'm high yellish. Uh oh. But seriously, you look fantastic. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

Thank you. Not bad for 28.

SPEAKER_04 3:20

Yeah. So, um, how then? Yes. Aside from delusional.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

We're starting off. We're starting off with the hate. I'm surprised that it's gotten this far. Um, I was told by management that uh everyone here would say that I was 28 and thin.

SPEAKER_03 3:36

Yes, you are 28 and thin. And delusional.

SPEAKER_04 3:44

Queen. I don't even know where to begin. I don't even know where to begin with you. Well, with ConCon and I were in the dressing room a while ago, and I said, two of the most legendary people on a microphone who can fucking turn it like nobody's fucking business, improv, organic, like, and just literally takes you there and then drops you on the end and says, Good night, is you and Bunyan.

SPEAKER_01 4:07

Oh my goodness. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 4:08

I've always said you were amazing on a fucking microphone. Thank you. You, your hosting skills, and you know, we come from a different demographic. We clock energy. But you on a stage with saying, I mean, literally, it I know you, we grew up together, but I literally fangirl out when I watch you on stage. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Your every mistress, mistress of ceremonies, extraordinary. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

It's true.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

I should get a raise from wherever I work. Yeah, you, yes, I don't work very many places. But you know what's so funny? You said uh me and Bunny. Bunny was the very first drag queen I've ever met, ever seen in my life. I was 19. I was at uh there was a club in the meat packing district before it became all like uh gentrified. Yeah. But it was called, it was Chip Ducket's uh night, it was Mars. Mars, of course Mars. Mars needs men, right? Oh, I'm gonna go Yes, this is by the way, I'm about to bring you all way black bitch, way black as well. With the shower on the roof? And I went, yes. Yes. And I walked, I remember I I was in school at the time, and I'd never been to a club. I'd never I didn't know anything about nightlife. And I walked and I saw Lady Bunny behind the DJ booth, and I was like, what is that? And I in fact, I think I I still have the photo because it was such a magical photo because there was a light behind her and so there's a spotlight and it looked like just a halo of big blonde hair. And uh yeah, that was my first time ever seeing a drag performer. And I was like, what is it? And it was fun.

SPEAKER_04 5:36

It was like five floors, and I yeah, it was yeah, it was so much fun.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

So wild, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

So I remember me or meant that was a fun party.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

That was my first time ever, I think, going to a nightclub and seeing a drag performer. And then right after that, uh my friends at school were like, let's go to let's go to this other club. And I was like, Well, I I don't know. And uh we showed up at the front door, and uh Chauncey was at the door. Chauncey, who was just so scary to me. She's fierce, honey. But this was my first time in a major club, and I they dressed me up. Uh we were uh I was going to school at the time, and so we went to the wardrobe department of the school, they dressed me up, and we got to the door, and Chauncey, this is when you had to like be. Yeah, you had to be fierce together. You had to be pigs together. And we all got out of the car, and I'm wearing, I remember, a silk negliger, cream colored, a straw hat, pigtails coming out, just a red lip, no makeup. And Chauncey, there's a thousand people outside screaming, waving at Chauncey, and Chauncey looks straight at me and points to me and goes, Who you, who are you with? And I was like, uh uh, and I turned to my friends and like, Am I supposed, is he talking to me? He's like, Yes. And so he grabbed me and all my friends, and we went in, and that was opening night of the Roxy.

unknown 6:50

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 6:51

Yes. What you became synonymous with.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

Yes, and then I started working there. Some literally Boy George came up to me and was like, Oh my god, you I love your look. Would you like to work here?

SPEAKER_04 7:00

Isn't that a gag?

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Girl, I was so naive. That wasn't Boy George. That was Lee. That was Lee Chapel dressed as Boy George. But everybody dressed up in the look lesson. Yeah, yeah. And I ran to my friends and said, Oh my god, boy George just offered me a gig. And they're like, Oh, you are so green.

SPEAKER_04 7:17

In your defense though, Lee and Boy, they had very similar features. Yeah, yeah. Especially when she used to wear the mega. And Lee used to be. Yeah, he's there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

He had his face, his nose done to look like Boy George at the time. So but I was just so Locomotion Days. Yes, yes. Oh my goodness. He had the swing. And that's how I started uh at Night Life, and that's how then I met you. That's how we met. Yes, yeah. I shouldn't shouldn't tell the story. I should get the flu vlogs. I wouldn't, I won't tell. I mean, how embarrassing should we go? Because we're about to get to get to YouTube.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

I already told her, I already told her. I know none of you two people. I don't know any of you. I told you.

SPEAKER_02 7:51

I told my mimosa. We're gonna go in.

SPEAKER_01 7:53

So, girl, get in. So I so then I started working at the Roxy, and I went from like, you know, being in short, like helping out with the decor to helping with the promotion, and then becoming like creative directory. Dick Marlar, that's all I'm doing. Promotional director of the Roxy. Um, and in my mind, I didn't realize how big the Roxy was at the time because I was still, I was focused on music. I was focused on opera. I was going to school. Um, that was just for me a side gig, right? And uh I'm Jamaican, so whatever gig we do, we do it 100%. Yes, and we do it 100%. You're working? That's right.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

You're working now? Yeah, oh girl. You're working when you leave Yassa? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

All right. Come on, Mama Jamaica!

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Hello.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

Uh so I and then one night we were at the Roxy, and there was this poor sad creature just crying, crying on the dance floor, and I was like, Oh, what's wrong? And she's like, Someone stole my shoe, my fluvog. And this bitch had one orange shoe, and I was like, Is that a shoe or a doorstop? I didn't know what it was. And I mean, I the only time I'd ever seen that show, that shoe was on uh uh Delight. What's her name? Lady Miss Keir wore it. And I was like, that's an actual shoe or a doorstop? And she's crying over this like like this doorstop, and I felt bad for her. Yeah, a club. I felt bad for her because it's like, oh, this is poverty. And so I said, Oh, do you need help? And at that time, I had my apartment was right around the corner on 19th Street uh from the Roxy. And so I said, Baby, you poor thing. Uh and I was like, Where do you live? Are you homeless? Because she looked homeless. And so I what? This is a true story. I don't know what's happening. Uh and so I said, Listen here, homeless person. I I'm very what it's your story quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick.

SPEAKER_04 9:38

So I have to intervene. Go, go, go.

SPEAKER_01 9:40

So I was like, you can uh come stay at my my home and I will help you out, and you can sleep over. And so she's sleeping over, and uh my friend goes, offer her something to eat because she looks very skinny. And I was like, Oh, okay, well, I don't really have very much in my fridge, but I have some Cherries Jubilee. I don't know what it is about Cherries Jubilee, but that threw her into a violent throw-up rage. And she threw up all over my I had like a pink sofa. I I don't I don't think it was pink, but I remember it pink.

SPEAKER_04 10:14

It was a colorful thing.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

It was more colorful over my sofa. Like this homeless person throwing up on my sofa with an orange shoe, and I just went, I think we need to be friends. And she said and she said, um, yes, sugar, and smiled with that gap in the tooth, and from then on we've been friends ever since. It's Lena. Yeah, yeah. Listen. That was literally like 600 years ago. I love you so much, and I wait for your story.

SPEAKER_04 10:52

Elders, we're the same age. Please don't try it. I don't even know how old I am, so, but I know you're older, like dust. Wikipedia! Everyone watching that Wikipedia. You can go to Wikipedia. I am their age is nowhere to be found. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 11:05

I've slept with everyone that owns Wikipedia, honey. Trust.

SPEAKER_04 11:08

And so have I. Yes. And that's why there's no age.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Check my age on Wikipedia. It is current.

SPEAKER_04 11:12

Dust. Anyway, some of it was true, but you were wrong. The part that was the uh the the fabrication. The shoe color was wrong. No, yeah, the shoe color was wrong. You're because you're thinking of the Infinity Within party when my yellow fluvlogs got stolen off my feet by the Hispanic dragon. Oh, so this happened more than once? It did. No, no, the first time I had the black fluvlogs on with the silver thing on, but it broke. That's why there was a silver mylar around the the foot.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

Oh, so your shoe got your shoe kept getting stolen? No. The first time it broke, the front part of it broke.

SPEAKER_04 11:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

The platform broke. Oh, so you wrapped it with the mylar.

SPEAKER_04 11:48

Because I have a pistol, I have a photo of me with my foot off of your house. I still have it.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

Yeah, you looked busted. You looked like you needed help, and I was there to help.

SPEAKER_04 12:00

Always lending a help in hand. That's what I did, baby. My dear sister.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

I couldn't have a high yellow homeless person outside the Roxy. No. I had to, you know, we had property values to think of.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

So, what color was the shoe? It wasn't the same.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

The shoe with the black suede ones that I had. You still have them? No, no, John sent me in, uh he sent me a whole bunch of flu vlogs and he autographed all of them. Okay. Thank you, John. Yeah. During the pandemic, yeah. Okay. So I replaced those because those ones were long gone. But the yellow ones were never to be found again. Okay. They remember the sling back with the open toe. So, so so do we know who the offendy was? She was. I remember I was I was totally twisted because it was an open bar. It was the Infinity Within. And I was on Remember that first sofa when you come up the stairs at Roxy? And I was passed out on the thingy door. I remember what I had. I had my sharp platinum popping old preach hair on, a yellow marabou top that was sheer, black high-waisted doce panties, black fishnets, and my yellow fluvogs and my lunch pail. All of a sudden I remember this Hispanic Hispanic drag queen, really tall and big, saying, I like your shoes. And that's all I remember. And when I woke up, my feet were bare. So I'm then crawling on the floor at Roxy. Everybody's wearing fluvogs. It's the boots. It's the, you know, it's all the shows. And I'm like, and so I go up to Dimitri, who was spinning, and I said, Dimitri, you gotta turn the music off. I say, somebody stole my shoes.

SPEAKER_01 13:21

He's like, Lena, I can't turn the music off. The level of delusion. Stop the club! My shoes are missing.

SPEAKER_04 13:27

But this is the gag. This is the gag. This bitch had a size 12, 13, and I'm a 10. She left her fucking size 13 cheesy black pumps next to me.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

Yes. Oh, I remember this, yes. A tray. And the look of, but you know what was funny?

SPEAKER_04 13:40

A tray? That's for something to go through.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

What I remember about this was the look of disgust on your face as you looked at that shoe, and you're like, oh, I can't put those on my teeth.

SPEAKER_04 13:48

Honestly, I was like, how am I? First of all, I'm gonna be swimming in them, and they're hideous. And they do not have to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

I do have a confession. What? That was you? I have your yellow. I have your yellow.

SPEAKER_04 14:00

She threw her voice, she's like, she won't recognize me. I'm Hispanic in her eyes.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

I speak Spanish fluently. Oh, I know you do. I've had a lot in you, too.

SPEAKER_04 14:08

I don't eat parquet. It's Marjorie.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

But with uh Connie for uh Connie's story. Oh no, it's a it's a much nicer story.

SPEAKER_04 14:19

Oh, so nice.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

Because I used to go, you know.

SPEAKER_04 14:23

Oh no!

SPEAKER_01 14:23

So I started, I you know, when I first started, I was so I didn't know that the Roxy was like a big deal, right? I think uh proximity is everything. Like I was just a little young boy working at this club which happened to be the biggest club in the world. Did I know about smaller clubs and all the clubs? And you know, fast forward like a couple of years, like uh I was so shocked when people used to say, Oh, Shakita only works in the white clubs, or Shaquita works, Shakwita only works in the big clubs. And I was like, Oh, uh is there a white club culture in a black couple culture? Is there a is there a big club culture? Mike, the first time I I went to perform at the pyramid, I remember Mistress Vermica, rest in peace. Um loves it. No, no, no. No, her career, not her. She's still around. I told you, don't give her a microphone honey. No, for Micah is the one who actually got us married. But um For Micah's looked at me and was like, oh, I see you're slumbing it here with us in the East Village.

SPEAKER_04 15:23

And I was like slumming it. I'm doing it.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

For me, it was like a gig was a gig was a gig. I didn't care, I didn't care if it was like the biggest club in the world or a small little club in the East Village. So I went to this club on Thursday, I think it was a Thursday. Boybar. And uh I saw the show and I was and I was just like, what is this? Yeah. And this gorgeous.

SPEAKER_04 15:46

How come her story's nicer than mine?

SPEAKER_01 15:48

Oh, wait, wait, wait. This gorgeous woman comes out, and you know, I'd only seen now a couple of drag, and my drag was terrible. It was back in the day it was hideous.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Continue, please. I'm disagreeing with you, girl. Hideous, go ahead. You remember my first drag name? Yes. Do you remember? I absolutely do. It was cobbled. Boo. We'll move on.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Wait, what?

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Boo.

SPEAKER_04 16:24

Go on, wait, wait. I don't want you to lose shit if you're elderly, you know, you're moving this shit. God, I love you. I'm still loving pain, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

So I'm watching this show, and it's amazing, right? It's amazing. The production value took me out. You know, because I'm a production queen, and I was just like, there's choreography. Yeah, there's rehearsal, you know, uh, and then and then uh this amazing queen came out, and I was like, oh my god, what is this? And then the the performer stopped and I was like, oh, this is this is amazing. What what just what did I just watch? And then Connie came out.

SPEAKER_02 17:10

I knew she wasn't done with me as I mean.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

That first queen was Mona Foote.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Oh, uh oh.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

And she did, and she did Wonder Woman, and I was like, what did I just witness? And then Connie came out. And I thought, oh, this poor thing must be hungry. Mona her food. Connie was like stunning, but uh frighteningly thin. Yes, malnutrition. And I thought I thought, oh, she's doing a skeletor skin. She was 60 pounds, and that was the hair, right? And then and then I saw I said, oh. Oh, Queen of Who. What? Why did they put her after this performer? Back down to the beach. And then no, and then I I I saw, I was like, oh, this is the fruit.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

I was performing for food. This was food. But I that was much needed.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

But you know what it was? What then the gagger was, I was like, oh, then you walked down the runway, and I I think I still there's a video of it somewhere that I saw recently, and you walked down the runway, and I said, Okay, I see why they booked this bitch, honey. I see. Cause I was the because the juxtaposition of Mona Foot. Yeah, and then you were just what's going on in the world. So for me, it was it was scary how beautiful you were. Yeah. Right? Yeah. You were just, you didn't look real. Yeah, she did. You still don't look real. Yeah. And it was just, you walked out, and I felt a little bit uh, I was sad because I thought you were hungry. But this was the 90s. Everybody was hungry in the 90s, right? We were all heroin chic. Yes, baby. You made, you, you made, what's her name? What's that what's that skinny? Kate Moss. You made skin Kate Moss look like Oprah Winfrey. It's true. I thank you for that.

SPEAKER_04 19:05

I said, Shall we be reading her eulogy, not mine?

SPEAKER_01 19:08

But no, but uh Connie was the first person where I ever saw clavicles. Yeah. And that's when I learned the word clavicles.

SPEAKER_04 19:16

I know. I was like, what is that?

SPEAKER_01 19:18

I was like, you can see her bones stick. I was like, you have bones there? You have bones. Is this Anatomy 101? And then I got the great opportunity. I like I was just new. I was I was not part of that scene at all. Um, and I got this opportunity to go downstairs. I don't know why I was downstairs in the dressing room, and Matthew Caston, who was so kind to me for some random reason, because he was tough. Yeah, he was tough.

SPEAKER_04 19:45

He was for good reason.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

And Matthews, he looked at me, he was like, You're you're gonna be a huge queen in the scene one day.

SPEAKER_04 19:52

And I was like, And then she put weight on, yeah. Jesse Normis. I mean, hello. I wasn't being shady, it's true.

SPEAKER_03 20:01

Jesse Normis!

SPEAKER_04 20:03

It's her girlfriend.

SPEAKER_01 20:05

And then I said, then I I I was so honored and so thankful, and uh so gracious. And I went to that show every Thursday, was it? Yeah, Thursday and watched it and would just watch you and Candace and Princess DeAndre, who hates me, still still hates me, hated me. She's still holding that brudge. Girl, yes. I saw her in the meat packing district the other day. She's still checking she can fucking. I was like, Hey mama, how are you doing? So good to see you. And she's like, Is it? I was like, oh girl. Girl, it's not the 90s. Let it go. 20 years later. Let it go. But still, like, you know, when people are like, uh, do you hate Princess DeAndre? And I was like, I don't hate Princess DeAndre. She is incredibly talented. Bitter. Bitter. But incredibly talented. Like, I can look past someone's absolute. But always look at their talents, right? Like, you could not, no one could hold like her when she performed at Boy Bar, her Dana Ross. What?

SPEAKER_04 20:58

And her Patty LaBelle?

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Patty LaBelle, she and the fact that she had those tiny little tiny little fucking feet. Size eight.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

She's she's a size eight. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

She's a size eight. Stunning, stunning. It's you know, I don't think, I don't think like you we should be able to separate people's like personalities from their talents, right? As a as a person, not so much fun. Yeah, I got it. But her talent is just absolutely. It's as big as her ego, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I was so glad to finally be able to tell you the story, Connie. We love you. We've we've never told, I've never been able to tell you the story because it's always just like in passing at a club, but uh yeah, it was that moment when you walked out, and then the light, and I I was just like, I was so afraid that if you turned sideways, you would just disappear.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

I say this all the time, especially then too. You like give that and then disappoint. Right, right. At uh at the at the thought of turning sideways and disappearing.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

But you know what it did? It made me not eat. It made me, no, it made me put on A corset that was too fucking I put on because I saw after seeing you, uh huh, you inspired me. I was like, okay, this is it, everyone's this skinny. So I put on a corset, and uh it was 18-inch waist, which I think your waist was at time. So I was like, I was like, Oh, I'm I'm Connie, I'm Connie, you know. And I I was like, everyone's gonna think I'm Connie. And then an hour into me working at the Roxy, I was like, I don't feel so well. I have to go home. I didn't know, I was like, I think I maybe ate something. I was so clueless. I didn't realize I was I was suffocated. Suffocated, yeah. And the minute they unzipped me and took off the corset, I was like, I can go back to the corner. Let's get back to the party. And I lived around the corner. So I literally didn't have the corner. I literally de-dragged and went back to the party. But I almost died because of you.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

No, it is it it's you set a standard that is not believable. It's not achievable. No, no, no. I I was lucky to have been roommates with Mr. Pearl. Yeah. And Mr. Pearl taught us training.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

You all need to know what this what this means. This is this is unattainable status. It's what is it, what is it, what is that waste down to?

SPEAKER_03 23:11

Um, it was it it depended on on what day, but it could be internally, because that that's a thing. Yes. There's the internal measurement, which is which is what you're going for. The lowest would be like an 18. Maybe a 17 on a good day.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Don't do it, people. Stick with your Lena size, 34, 36. It's do it. Yeah, it's natural. What is happening? What? I'd keep it now. Maybe you keep it natural and I like it thick. I think this is the last time I'm on this podcast. We need to get into the serious discussions. It's too much laughing. This is just a serious moment about the community. Is this being videotaped?

SPEAKER_04 24:08

Everything. No, it's I love when Queen reads me. I really do. Sometimes I just take a break. I was like, I love when elderly people get out of their heads. It's everything. It just, you know what I mean? Because we're not gonna have them here forever. You know what I mean? We just have to like kind of like remember these moments. And I want to remember these moments looking sick name. Looking elderly little Rolls, you know? It's so good to have you here, Queena. You look amazing. Um, I remember one of the first times I met you, I was like, oh my God. And it's like I haven't met somebody whose father is black and her mother's black, it makes her pitch black. I was like, wow, look at the black.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

I'd rather be pitch black than jaundice instead of being never woman. No. You look great.

SPEAKER_04 24:53

Wait, somebody turn the lights on, please. What's the god?

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Oh, the racism.

SPEAKER_04 25:02

Oh, the black on black crime. Black on black crime, honey. Like here. But seriously, Quita.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

Seriously. Seriously. This dress is a it's a hate crime. You shouldn't look this good at your age. It's uh it's it's literally unattainable. Unattailable, unattailable. But you know what? You work for it. You I see you, I see you on your bike riding. I see you, you know, riding the guys on your video. Sorry, wrong wrong video. On your OnlyFans. I see you riding. Oh shit. Oh, you didn't know? No. Oh, you don't get the subscription? No. You didn't get the coupon?

SPEAKER_04 25:43

Not the coupon. Only fans, groupons? She would never have it.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

Not the group on the group on bitch. Okay. How old do you think? How old do you think I am? First of all, look at that lady of fear on Connie's face.

SPEAKER_04 26:01

You said that she was the first drag queen you've seen. That's going 1800 and something. Okay. That's gotta be somewhat near you because if she know what I mean? So, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

I was offered mimosas at this meeting. You should have had some at this AA meeting.

SPEAKER_04 26:19

This is a moment for us to tell you about drinking sugar. Yeah, I probably should. I probably should. Hello. It's an intervention. Intervention. Oh, I gotta say something that just came to my mind right now. I remember back in the day, how one legendary and how fucking groundbreaking it was when you were reoccurring on the soap opera. What soap opera was that again?

SPEAKER_03 26:40

Um All My Children.

SPEAKER_04 26:41

All my children. One life to live. One life to live. Do you ever think about that?

SPEAKER_01 26:45

You know what? The same way I don't think about the Oh, is a mimosa coming into the shop? Cheers, lady! Cheers! Cheers, Lahia! Look in the eyes, look in the eyes. Look in the eyes. Seven years bad sex. Never. I'm married. It's sex all night long. Can I put this here? Can I put this here? Um uh one life to live. So it's the same thing. It was exactly the same thing for me. Like when I'm just again, reminded me. Oh, do I know? I don't know. I don't do math. Math is homophobic.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

But I I did not think of I did not know it was a big deal, right? When they called, when I auditioned for it, I didn't think of it, I was so late for the audition. Because I was so as Lena says, I was, as Lena says, blasi-dah. I was so, I didn't know, and they were like, oh, and I was like, wait, you want me to come in in full drag for an audition at two o'clock in the afternoon in Midtown in Lincoln Center? Yeah. I said, Oh, so I waited till the sun went down, honey. And I showed up at the audition and they're like, oh, it was three hours ago. I was like, oh, I'm sorry. And I remember I was wearing an Ole Cassini suit. You remember that Ole Cassini suit, house tooth? Yes. And I showed up full business fish, buddy. Full business fish. And she was like, but wait, let me get someone in here to talk to you. And I was like, oh, okay. And I sat there and I read the lines, and then I got back in the car and headed back home. And then I remember I was uh in Central Park and the phone rang, and they're like, We'd like to offer you the part of Wendy Mercury on uh One Life to Live. And I was like, great, thanks. And I hung up the phone, and then my friend Mark, do you remember no, not Mark, uh Chris? Uh Chris Puckett.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Yes, Chris. Oh yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

He called me and I was like, Yeah, I just got offered a role on a TV show, and he was freaking out on the phone. And I was like, why? Is it a big deal? He's like, it is a nationally syndicated show. It's been a going on for 25 years. How you're not freaking out? I was like, oh, yeah, okay, I'm freaking out. And then I hung up the phone and I called my mom and I told her, and my mom was freaking out, and then that's when I was like, oh, maybe this is the big deal. Maybe I should pay attention to this. I did not realize that I was the first drag queen on a national television show in a recurring role. Yes, you were. I didn't even think of it. Give that up. Give that up. And what I'm gonna ask you all, um, in the sense of being kind, please, I urge you never to Google that any video from that show. I was like, research it on YouTube. I was the worst actor in history. I don't remember it being that way. I was so bad. I was so bad, literally. There was this one actress, her name was Marva Hicks. Yeah, yeah. Uh, incredible performer. Uh, if you're Marv Marva Hicks, if you hear the shout out to you. Um, she was re reading her lines, like we're shooting the scenes, right? And she's saying her lines, and I'm just looking at her, and I was like, What? Because she was her acting was. I thought she was I thought she was talking to me. And I went, what? And she just went like this. You're lying. And I was like, oh, we're acting. Oh, oh, okay. Two white wines. I dead. And my friends made fun of me that like that. That was a line. Two white wines. We'll have the uh do not look it up. Do not look it up. No, it's been scrubbed from the internet. It's been scrubbed from the internet. But uh, I was I you know, I'm so grateful and uh honored. It was amazing. I was in the so back then the biggest publication was TV Guide. Yeah, TV Guide, yep, yep. And uh I was in the fact that I was on the second page of the biggest publication as must-see TV. How funny I have it.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

Which is uh I remember I thought it everything, but it was historic, it was historically. And it was for you, yeah. Yes, yes, it was meant for you. That's right. You were there, you had the talent, and you had the drive to go and do it. And probably you needed to be blind to go into the out there. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

I wouldn't I didn't go in with fear. Yeah, yes, yes. I wish I went in with some acting shops, but uh but those were the times.

SPEAKER_04 31:05

Yeah. And then for you guys, honey, for one of the most legendary gay anthems, honey, show me love. Oh man. So Quita and I are both in that video. And they know that. Yes, yes. Um, and then she went on to do uh for love after that in the lounge.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Yes, yes. I was like, with uh Robin video with Robin. You know, Robin was like, hey Queida, hey Quedish, you want to do the next video? I was like, sure. That was scary, though.

SPEAKER_04 31:30

It was beautiful to share that with you. It was the video vix and date. Yeah, it was a good video. We were all doing the videos back in the day, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

I remember once shooting a video for Carmen Electra.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

Yeah, wait, I remember.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Were you in that video?

SPEAKER_04 31:40

No, I wasn't, but I remember when you did it with that.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

I was sitting there in the like there was a pause in the take, and I sat beside this woman and I was like, oh my god. You know, I was feeling the fantasy full drag, because I was like, oh yeah, I'm I'm the shit. And I sat beside this woman, I was like, oh my god, you're gorgeous. You should like, you know, for Halloween, you should play um Vanessa Williams. Yeah. I said, you should play Vanessa Williams. You look just like Vanessa Williams. And this woman just looked at me and smiled. And my entire career just, I was like, oh, you are Vanessa Williams, aren't you? And she went, Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:16

The right style. I was so embarrassed. I am.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

Because I was sure I was giving this woman career advice, like, oh girl, you should you should do Vanessa Williams. You would be a great impersonator. You look so pretty. And she was, and literally the moment I the moment I said I said I said, You're Vanessa Williams, and she just smiled at me. I was like, oh shit. And so my I think I think I got, I think I left the video shoot. I was so embarrassed.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

No.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Fast forward, like five years later, we're at Fashion Week, and I'm sitting in the front row, and there's uh this was uh she was huge then. She just came off that movie with uh Arnold Shorts. And we're sitting in the front row of this fashion show. I I want to say it was uh Ralph Rucci. Uh-huh. Shout out to Ralph Rucci. And uh I'm sitting there, and then all this commotion and like security, and then this woman walks in, sits right beside me, and it's Vanessa Williams, and she turns and she goes, You should do Vanessa Williams.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

Ah no, I remembered that.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

She remembered that.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

I know, girl.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

I wouldn't forget something. And I sat there the whole fashion show just peeing in my past. It was all to my age, but you know, so Vanessa Williams, apologies. I love you, girl.

SPEAKER_04 33:33

Love you, Vanessa. But that's a great compliment, everything.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:37

She was able to kiki and send it right back to you. She's a real one. She is a real one. She's a total real one. Oh my god. That's amazing, Quita.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:45

Only I love it.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

Show me love. You got to show me love. When I rip off the and had the dreads. You got to have the dreads, and I had the braids. Yes, yes, yes. Love it. Love it.

SPEAKER_04 33:54

You know, Quita and I, we we lived together quite a bit throughout.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

We've been through a couple of those same men together. That is true, too. Are we allowed to talk about that? We can't. Yeah, we can't. No, let's keep it.

SPEAKER_04 34:03

I told you, I still can't remember. I can't believe you still don't remember. Not Behea. But um uh Jerry.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

I don't remember Jerry. Jerry was the jersey guy that we slept with. I couldn't sleep with anybody.

SPEAKER_04 34:14

You slept with him, I dated him.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

My husband's sitting over there.

SPEAKER_04 34:16

I know! Oh shit. Is he in the studio?

SPEAKER_01 34:20

Oh, I meant to say I've never slept with anyone other than my husband. That's true.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

That's still a prayer on your knees.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

Oh, I thought you were saying Christian. There was another Christian, but we won't talk about him because that's too soon. Well, you walked right in. Well, no, you you that was a that was a boy bar setup. Wait, what? Wait, did you sleep? Did you remember what happened? Wait, no, bitch, hold on a second. No, they came for me at boy bar. Yeah, they did. But hold on, wait, baby.

SPEAKER_04 34:44

Back it up a second ago.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Hold on a second. What? Not that Christian. Oh. It was a it was that. That's Christopher.

SPEAKER_04 34:51

This show is over. Bitch, get out my house 30 years later. No, you did not. No. No, let's not.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

You look beautiful, Connie.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Tell me more about Boy Boss.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

I signed NDAs, and um, I'm trying to keep this podcast nice and friendly and love. Everybody's gonna be a good one. Brown sugar kisses. I didn't sleep with him, but but what?

SPEAKER_04 35:22

The show's gonna drive me to drink.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

So um I remember one night I came to Boy Bar, as I did every Thursday to see the show. And um Oh my god, what was her name? She passed. Uh Sweetie. Cody. Yeah. And I remember uh Cody and uh a bunch of other performers came up to me and started saying, bitch, you can't be here. You need to get out here. And you're like I'm coming for me. Yeah, yeah. And uh Scott, uh the scene. Scott Scott was the only was the only one that like stood up for me and was like, you're fine, I got you. Yeah, yeah. And I remember Cody and all these all these performers that I looked up to were like reading me for filth and like cursing me out. And I I I was I was a little scared. Yeah. I remember. Because I was a baby queen, right? Even though I worked in the biggest club in the world, yeah, yeah. It didn't matter. In my eye, in my eyes, your your group, the whole boy bar group, you know, uh Nishom and you and uh Candace and Cody were the shit in New York City Nightlife. And so when I came there to watch the show and everyone started gagging up on me and like threatening me, I was like, oh my goodness. And Scott was like, you just stay there, I got you. And Matthew Castan also was like, girl, just f forget it. Yeah, yeah. It was because um uh one of your friends I found in bed with my boyfriend. And I I did not do anything, I just uh kicked my boyfriend out. And uh this was it was also my friend at the time.

SPEAKER_04 37:00

Bitch, I love old school tea 30 years ago, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

Wow And so I walked into my walked into my bedroom and found them in bed together, and so my boyfriend and my friend, and I was like, oh, and so instead of apologizing, he went ahead and t uh talked uh shit about me. Yeah and so when I showed up at Boy Bar, all these it was uh queens were just like yeah off of off of him trying to protect his ass.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

Which a lot a lot of a lot of the stuff goes on that way.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just like, I was like, why? I'm I I was the fig and I didn't do anything. In fact, I was not violent. No, no, no, no. But I walked in and uh I kicked my boyfriend out. Yeah, no, I and then and we were friends. We were not we were friends, this person who shall be nameless.

SPEAKER_04 37:52

But you want to know the geeky though, there was that, and I actually remember that story, Quita. But there was also even like around that time, there was a whole stigma with you that a lot of the girls from the East Village couldn't take. Yeah, they didn't like the fact that, and it was, it was very odd. And then when I came in, that's because I worked at the Roxy, right? It was because you were working with Mark Berkeley, yeah, and you were doing all of the high-end clubs. Not that I mean we weren't thinking like that, but this is how they were thinking. Yeah, we work in the East Village, she's doing all these big monster clubs or whatever, and they thought that you had this better than attitude kind of vibe. And I remember that being a thing for the longest time. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:27

Yeah, I remember like uh uh Rue. I went to uh Pyramid, and Rue was downstairs in the dressing room, and Rue barely said a word to me. But also, she barely said a word to anyone. Yeah, um, I remember uh uh Formica was just mean to everybody, but especially mean to me.

SPEAKER_04 38:48

Uh it was I don't see how kind and sweet she is. Why would anyone offer Takuea?

SPEAKER_01 38:52

Uh but yeah, it was it was, you know, it's so funny. It was tough. It was tough like uh getting gigs back then, right? I remember I remember always secretly wanting to be a part of the boy bar beauties. Yeah. But like to get that gig, you had to wait for someone to die. And Connie, you're still here, so I'm would you like a drink? Would you like a drink? I'm still waiting for that spot, Connie. Um but no, and that's exactly why I started my drag competition. Because I remember in the 90s how difficult it was to ever for new queens to get a spot because they those spots were puppeted. And you know, and having having, I don't want to call I don't want to use the word gatekeeper for Matthew as a bad word, but Matthew was incredible. Matthew Caston, he he knew what he wanted, and he had a really fan vision. He had the had the performers he did. Yes, had those performers in check. You know what? You know what the one thing he said to me, which I still to this day remember, uh, I remember, I think one day I was in drag there, and I had on a ring, and he was like, You have great taste. That's when he was like, You have great taste, you're gonna be a huge uh performer in the scene. And I was like, Oh, oh. The fact that he looked at the ring, right? But uh there there was so much, there was so much, like, it was so tight and close knit. Uh you had to literally wait for someone to die or move away to get a spot. And so I was like, uh let me let me make it a little bit easier. Like, the I think the point of any uh performer when you get a platform or you get opportunity is to hold that door open for the next generation, right? Yeah, I think uh, you know, people always say, Oh, Shakwita, you're blah, blah, blah, blah. You're you're a drag mother. I'm not a drag mother. I'm way too young. Yeah, and I have a waistline. I'd like to keep it.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

Not with the mama and the auntie. Don't do it. Don't do that. I'm not your mama. Thank you. I tell my auntie.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

Because you know why? Because there will always disappoint, and I do I can't I can't be bothered. Exactly. But I I literally call myself like a glamorous doorman, right? I just I hold the door open. Whatever you do, uh, once you walk through, that is on you. That's on you. But uh I want to make-shot for him to do that. I want to make sure exactly that that door is open and you can you you have the spot. You have because I know even but even today, getting a spot in New York City because there's nine million drag performers, and getting recognized, um, where do you how do you get recognized in such a crowded field, right?

SPEAKER_04 41:24

But also you have to separate yourself and they all look the same.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

Yeah, I mean, yes. And we I think we did. We looked like the supermodels back then. Yeah. When people look at pictures of us from back in the day, they're like, Oh, you didn't wear makeup back then. But the models back then didn't wear makeup. We were emulating squash. Right. Yes, yes. We thought we were we were fresh face cunns kind of we can say that.

SPEAKER_04 41:44

Yes, of course you can. But we were also, but but when it came down to performances, we all had our own thing that we did. Each girl was trying to outdo each other in a fierce way, saying, bitch, look at this number.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

Do you remember our shoe fights we used to have at the store on Inc. Quitwita girl. We would go shopping. We would go shopping, but we would be fighting at the same time. The fights we would have big. Baby, I would go into that shoe store and I would see this Giuseppe Zanotti, and look over there, and I would be like, uh, and the the salesman would be like, oh, it's on hold for Lena. I was like, It's true, oh, she has it on layaway, I'll pay cash. And I would buy the shoe. And you remember, I know, I knew. You remember those gold ones? Yes, you still have them? Yes, bitch. You have my Gucci ones too? I still have the no, I have the wooden ones. The black? No, not yours.

SPEAKER_04 42:34

Remember the cream ones I let in cheese. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:36

Oh, those. Yeah, no, girl, I had to let them go.

SPEAKER_04 42:38

Those were Tom Ford Gucci!

SPEAKER_01 42:40

I had to let them go, girl.

SPEAKER_04 42:41

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

The smell.

SPEAKER_04 42:43

Bitch, it was not because your nasty funky foot was in it, bitch. With your ass and foot, honey, don't even try it. No, but it's true. Me and Baton and this one, they'd be like, I'm like, I need this shoe. They're like, oh, Shakwita has on hold. I'm like, um, I'll pay for it right now.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

Oh my goodness, and then it would go in and the shoe was gone. Oh, yeah. We used to chat theater. I'm not even kidding you. Because we, me and Lena, Candace, and Shasta used to be the four supermodels. Yes. And we would literally get booked out just to walk around. And I thought it, I thought it was Connie. I was like You did. You did you did.

SPEAKER_04 43:15

With the waist center, she learned how to breathe in a waist center. Girl, for the longest time. She didn't breathe. She did. She's like, if I'm gonna be out on these streets, I gotta learn how to breathe in this poor thing.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

But you know what? You were you were so inspiring. And I I don't know if you know how inspiring you are to so many of us. And so still to so many.

SPEAKER_04 43:34

You're so right. That's true. You know this is.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

And I was like, I was like, I'm gonna walk like, you know, I was gonna walk like Connie doing Naomi. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So it was because you were you were that that was your thing, honey. You on still untouchable. Untouchable.

unknown 43:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:48

Queita, she can give you an insult and a compliment at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 43:52

You look you're you're here.

SPEAKER_04 43:55

Yeah. You're put together. All right. You look gorgeous. I'm very, I'm very sure. I'm very impressed. I mean, impressed. I was like, are they gonna be wheeling this bitch in like death becomes their honey? Like, who is this gonna be working on it?

SPEAKER_01 44:10

Not the wheel at the end. Not the wheel. But you know what's funny though, to think of that from that apartment on 19th Street. I know. That we've been together, we've been friends for so long. We've been through so much of that apartment when I lived on Park Avenue. Uh that guy that I dated, then you dated, one of the three. Yep. Uh just the those shoe fights at that shoe store. Miami, the Miami for the first time. Oh my goodness. Were we on that bus with RuPaul? And is that where I got that's where I got my drag last name? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So were you, oh, you it was me, you, Rue, uh, Bunny, Amanda. Amanda Amanda. Amanda, yeah, Amanda Lepore. Amanda Lepore. Oh my god. Because I remember Amanda sitting on that bus and just being so quiet. Are you okay? She's like, yeah. Like twice. But you know, you know what the funny thing about Amanda Lepore is, I know she's not here, I shouldn't talk about, but Amanda is one of the dirtiest motherfuckers I've ever. Just travel with her. Oh, she's so quiet. She's so quiet. But if you really listen, if you really listen, she'll be talking the nasty. I was I hosted the show. Do you do you know Amanda? Do you know Amanda closely?

SPEAKER_03 45:18

Yes, but but you didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 45:20

Oh, I know. Amanda online is so like, oh, boop, boop, boo. Yeah. But uh, I can't. Should I say this? Absolutely. Can I say this about Amanda? Absolutely. Oh, I love it. I'm sorry. Because I hosted this show. I hosted this show with uh Suzanne Barge, and Amanda Lepore was in the show. Look at Lena trying to get me drunk.

SPEAKER_04 45:37

Get a girl, work.

SPEAKER_01 45:39

And Amanda, Amanda would be in the dressing room. We're in the dressing room before the show, and Amanda Lepore comes, she's standing beside me, and she's doing her lipstick, which I always I never understood. Her lips were always done.

SPEAKER_04 45:53

They are always done, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

But she's still putting on more. And then, you know, I was like, ooh, she must be, she must be has stock in the lipstick trade, honey. So this I'm standing beside this goddess, and I'm looking at her, and then I go. What is that smell? And Amanda goes, Oh, I I'm sorry. Um, my boyfriend came in my pussy, and I I had just left it in. Now, people, world, you have to understand that I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian woman of faith, honey. I'm a Christian conservative, and I'm standing there looking at this goddess, and the words that just came out of her mouth was, my boyfriend just came in my pussy, and I just left it in there. The gagger is she just pulled that lipstick out of her pussy. Yeah. Because that was her that was her stick on the show. Yeah, yeah. That was her stick on the show. She would pull out the lipstick and do it on stage. Yeah. And she pulled it out, and she's like, Yeah, I just let him come inside me and I leave it, and he likes it. And I was like, What? But in that angelic voice. It's that angelic voice. It's just somehow, yeah, it is. It's somehow so wide.

SPEAKER_04 47:03

It is hilarious, and it's so sneaky. It broke, it's it broke that like barrier.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

Like I couldn't, I couldn't, for from for the longest time, whenever I was like in the same room with Amanda, I was always like standoffish because she is just this. She's like a little doll. And this like amazing icon. And then when she said That was the way of letting you in. When she said that, I was just like, Oh, you are real. Yeah, like you are real, yeah. And just, and then so some other things that I cannot repeat.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

Because she does it and it goes over, it goes over your head.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

It does, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:37

And you're like, Did she just Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. She just said. Oh, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:43

Is she joking? Yeah, yeah. She leaves you questioning joking. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:47

Yes. Oh. We flew to Paris.

SPEAKER_04 47:50

And I was just like this. I was like, and I've known Amanda forever. This is like what are you probably early 2000s. No, it was early 2000s. We were doing a gig together, and I was spinning, and she was performing and whatnot. And I mean, this is early 2000s. So we've already passed the 80s. We passed the 90s. We're in the 2000s. I learned a different side of her. And I was just like, this is secretly really fierce and funny. Well, fierce, yes, but funny. And like it's like almost intellectual like stingers where you tell us, you got to pay attention. Yes. And I never noticed that before because it's always the robber on the club. Right. Yes. But sitting with her on the city. It was funny.

SPEAKER_03 48:28

I'm like, she's funny as shit. It's it it comes in under the radar. Yes. Yeah, yeah. It comes in under the radar. And then, like, you know, a couple of minutes after she says something, and then a couple of minutes after you're like, what the? Did she do the chief?

SPEAKER_01 48:43

Absolutely. She's like a stealth comedian. Yes. I love it. Yes, I love it. And I also appreciate that the fact that she's so, so real. Like she does all her own stoning. She would rather do it. She's like you. She once came up to me and she's like, hey, Shakuieta, I have a dress that I want to give to you. And I was like, oh, thank you so much. It was this big. And well, yes. But she's like, it's too dark for me, so maybe it will fit you. The color will fit you. And I am looking at this pale white woman. And I was like, what is she about to pull out? What is she about to pull out of the bag that this big that is too dark for her, but just right for me. What color is that? And I was like, and she pulls out this color dress, and she's like, here you go, this should be your color. And I mean, it's Amanda Lepore. When Amanda Lepore hands you a custom dress, I looked at her with my good eye and said, Thanks. Thanks. And my husband's in the corner going, What the f you're like, shut up, just take it. And I just shut up, just take it. We went home and I dyed that motherfucker. It is one of the most sickening dresses in my closet to this day, honey. And every time I wear it, I'm like, Amanda Lepore wore this to her perfume launch. Yeah. And hand stoned by her. Stunning, stunning. Love it. Thanks.

SPEAKER_04 50:05

It was a different color, but.

SPEAKER_01 50:08

I know. The other day we were at this moral for a friend, and uh showed up tits up to here, uh, you know, high heels, and I I showed her pictures, goes, Oh, that's a beautiful dress. As like it was yours. She's like, when? And then I told her that I died. And she's like, oh you shit, yeah. She's yeah, she is a stealth comedian, honey. I love her.

SPEAKER_04 50:33

We had a guest here not too long ago, uh, DJ Gantt Johnson. Oh! Oh, yeah. And he had uh he had something that he had uh left a message behind, sweetheart. He um says that he still has or as you may have known in the episode, we had the only competition on fucking Thompson Square Park. Me, Motorfoot, Queda, Gantt. Who else was it?

SPEAKER_01 50:56

Uh Mark Toussainon, Tuscon. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. French photographer.

SPEAKER_04 50:59

Hey Mark. Uh-huh. And we would literally, every single day, we would run a bitch around, honey. And we played Badman. We had people sitting there watching. Yes, we had tournaments. We had tournaments.

SPEAKER_01 51:09

We had badminton tournaments in Thompson Square Park. Yes. Just playing.

SPEAKER_04 51:13

We would be out there all day. Yeah. Well, anyway, there was one time when you know she would call he Glunt called you Shaq on the uh on the court. Shaq. He's like, run a bitch around. That was his that was his line. Yeah, yeah. Um says that there's still a lunch that you have still not given him for um beating him. For me beating him? No, no, him beating a few. Oh, yeah, he beat him.

SPEAKER_01 51:33

Yeah, yeah. Gat Gat was incredible.

SPEAKER_04 51:35

He was fucking so competitive.

SPEAKER_01 51:37

So like what also one of those stealth people. Very quiet. Gant's got some first thing or something. Maybe you get him on a court.

SPEAKER_04 51:44

Forget about it.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Oh, that that I was just like, I was like, I'm not playing with you, honey.

SPEAKER_04 51:49

I want to be athletic.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

You didn't even play fair, honey.

SPEAKER_04 51:52

And when you got Mona and played like a straight man.

SPEAKER_01 51:54

Oh, Mona was terrible. Mona was terrible. But Mona was too terrible. Mona was terrible. But she was like, Mona had too many muscles. Mona had too many muscles to be running around that court. She couldn't run around, run a bitch around, honey. She couldn't. But Gabby played like a straight man.

SPEAKER_04 52:05

He did play like a straight man.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

I was like, that I was so hot. I know. I know. I know. And it's feet, honey. Oh! I'm not into feet like you are. I know. Yeah, that's why I have to give away those Gucci shoes you gave me.

SPEAKER_04 52:15

Bitch, they were mine! You borrowed them! But you still got the Giuseppes? Uh, that I bought, yes. No, bitch, no, the ones that I my brown ones. This with the the the they were the what were they? Um they were python and jeweled, remember? And they were a mule with a gold heel.

SPEAKER_01 52:32

I don't wear hand-me-downs.

SPEAKER_04 52:33

Bitch, please, you loved it.

SPEAKER_01 52:35

I wear couture, darling. Thank you. This shirt, couture. I made it myself. Trust. It's called floor couture, honey. That's right. When you have no money, you know what they call me in the scene, Rupport. Yeah, it's true, absolutely. And I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. I don't mind. It's always good, though. It's always the good. It's an issue. We don't need a lot of coin to look good, though. But not yet.

SPEAKER_03 52:59

You know what we have? We have taste.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

I appreciate I appreciate making my own things. And you've always made fierce clothes. When I show up to a gig and people are like, please welcome to the stage, Rupport. Done. And I walk out on the stage, I'm like, yes, I may be getting a check for $150, but you know, I'm I'm working.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

Yes, hello. And fears. But Queen is always a I have some pieces that you still maybe that I have.

SPEAKER_01 53:25

Oh my goodness. I feel me. I'm an archivist. I keep everything. I actually I love, I do enjoy creating. You've always been amazing. You know what's funny? I was I was saying uh to my husband the other day, uh Alex, I was like, this is so odd. Like literally, one day I'm up in the attic of our house, like sewing and patterning and cutting and draping. That's where the painting is of you. And then the next day, and then the next day, I'm out in the backyard sawing and making furniture and making a garden bed and like literally like one day you have a sewing machine in one hand and a circular saw in the next hand.

SPEAKER_04 54:02

Come on, green acres.

SPEAKER_01 54:04

I love I love I love creating and I love the creation. Am I great at it? No. Yeah. But you know what? It's the it's the process, and I love we were talking talking about this earlier with your producer. I love learning, right? My the greatest gift my husband ever gave me, other than marriage. Oh, Alex, uh, was the a YouTube subscription. Because baby, I will sit there and watch a how-to video all night long, honey. How to sew, how to how to do hair, how to mm do makeup, how to build a garden fence. You are really multi-talented. Seriously.

SPEAKER_04 54:39

Aside from the things that you do when you're on stage and off stage, you know, your your um your skills are amazing. Uh Quita has always been amazing at makeup when you learned how to do it. And hair, when you started wearing more of it. You know what I mean? Like you are so tanteful.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

Or a lash when it's finally started wearing a lash.

SPEAKER_04 54:56

Well, you taught me how to wear lashes. Do you remember? Yeah. Yeah, I did. I was, I remember I had a natural natural.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

Jiggly Callienta was always like, oh, girl, are you ever gonna put on a lash? You look like a man. But I was like, girl, I'm from the 90s. We didn't work, we were natural. Like if you look at a cover of a magazine from the 90s, nothing. Yeah, yeah, it's true. But you know how that hope. You know how that for I I am a drag queen, right? And it all changed for me when Lady Gaga came on the scene. And I was like, if there is this little white bitch out dragging me.

SPEAKER_04 55:25

Let me work this out.

SPEAKER_01 55:26

Let me step my pussy up, honey.

SPEAKER_04 55:28

So bitch, your makeup, I I send you a message, so I'm like, look at my sistrix, honey. She's old in a corset, fucking looking sickening. Size 18-inch waist. Thank you, Connie. Thank you, bitch. Thank you, bitch. The blueprint. But seriously, bitch, this house.

SPEAKER_03 55:44

Now which is my favorite home. This old house? Oh shit. Which is my favorite.

SPEAKER_04 55:49

It's fishbowl time, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 55:50

Fishbowl.

SPEAKER_04 55:51

Fucking A.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

I love fish.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

Quita, first of all, we love you. Oh, I love you, guys, too. This is amazing. So much fun. I have to bring you on the fucking show. Because I've never seen this bitch.

SPEAKER_01 56:02

Yeah, I'll I will come by for some free foods. Do I just pick anything? Stick it in. That's what he said last night. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 56:08

Oh, Alex.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

All right.

SPEAKER_04 56:11

Wait, no, what kind of animal do you get? I think it's a.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

It's a whale. A whale. Is this a whale or a salmon? It's a dolphin. It's a dolphin. A dolphin. Oh, I remember those Fire Island nights, many. Shakweina, read the thing. I'm glad we didn't bring those up.

SPEAKER_00 56:27

We'll have to have you back for part two.

SPEAKER_01 56:29

This is a dolphin.

SPEAKER_03 56:31

Okay. No, that's a whale. Racist. That's a whale. Racist. Animalist.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

Ooh, who is a one-hit wonder that deserves a comeback?

SPEAKER_04 56:41

Shakrina! Oh, sorry. Um sorry. I was like, is this a lightning round?

SPEAKER_01 56:47

Where's my key light? Where's my where's my key light? Where's my camera? Where's my gun?

SPEAKER_04 56:53

Clip.

SPEAKER_01 56:55

Uh, who is a one-hit wonder that deserves a comeback? Are we talking uh musicians? It could be anyone. It could be anybody. Oh my goodness. Uh I don't think she's so much a one-hit wander, but I think she's super talented. Uh, I would love to hear more from uh Christine W.

SPEAKER_04 57:11

Oh, a girl. Oh, yeah. I love Christine. That's our girl, honey.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

When that song came out, Feel What You Want, it changed music. Yeah. There was there was nothing like it, right? At that time, all the music was um sort of uh uh what do you call it, pots and pants? Yeah uh pots and pants. Boots and pants and clack clay clack clack claiming and then went ten ten ten tenants.

SPEAKER_04 57:35

That was only ever played on the clubs, and I did that when I got the HX Award uh for Best Performer of the Year at USA. Yes. And I performed that and I came down. Remember, Bobby was late with my outfit. My outfit didn't come. I had this fierce trench coat on, and I took it off and I danced in my panties to that song and killed it.

SPEAKER_01 57:51

The sun rises at night. Ah, Quito with that voice. We don't we shouldn't sing. We don't have the rights, we don't have the rights to it. But that that song was just so different.

SPEAKER_04 58:01

And it was finister in a way, it was just beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 58:04

She was this like Vegas showgirl doing house music.

SPEAKER_04 58:07

We still keep in touch. Yo, you do. Okay. I could like to get her on the show. You love that one. That's great memory, uh, Quido. That's a great memory. Thank you. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 58:15

Um, one hit wonder that I think deserves.

SPEAKER_04 58:19

And mind you, she was not saying that she was a one-hit wonder. He's just saying, No, no, no. We'd like to have her back. Just giving full clarity, because the bitch is legendary.

SPEAKER_03 58:26

A reprieve. Reprieve, yes. A reprieve and an expansion.

SPEAKER_04 58:29

She's still doing great music, though, but yeah, that song was a shit.

SPEAKER_03 58:34

Millie Vanilli? Well, there's only one Millie.

SPEAKER_01 58:36

The vanilla's gone. Uh thank you for having me. Where's the exit? Girl, you're trying to get you. You're trying to get us cancelled.

SPEAKER_04 58:49

Yeah, centipede, honey. Centipede. Queen is still not sold, honey. Okay. She's like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 58:56

Hey, we all have our choices, Connie.

SPEAKER_04 59:00

Queen is like, I am not buying any of these two. Not the Millie. Remember, vanilla you passed on. There's only a manila. Oh, he did? Yes, honey. There's only vanilla. There's only manila, vanilla left. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 59:13

Isn't it not the same person as vanilla? No, it's not vanilla. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Vanilla and Manila.

SPEAKER_04 59:16

Baby, he's got some manila now.

SPEAKER_01 59:18

No. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 59:20

Y'all. This is what happens when you hang out with geriatric people. You can't remember shit.

SPEAKER_01 59:23

Not Rebe Jackson. Now she's not Rebe? She's 80. Well, she's gonna come back at.

SPEAKER_04 59:29

She still looks fierce.

SPEAKER_01 59:30

Does she? Have you seen her? Did you see her in the Michael Jackson movie? No. Did you see Janet in the Michael Jackson movie? No. No. No. They didn't even bring up both of them.

SPEAKER_04 59:39

I know, I know, I know, I know. Check.

SPEAKER_01 59:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 59:41

Yours. What's the question again? Come back. Oh, come back. Not Millie or Vanilla. Or Reba. Rebe.

SPEAKER_03 59:48

Why are you doing that?

SPEAKER_01 59:50

Because those were stupid. Sorry. Everyone's opinion is valid. Everybody's opinion is valid. Everybody's valid. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:58

Let me see. Who would I like to see who was uh oh well uh I I they were amazing, but we've lost one of them. Mel and Kim were fierce, honey. Showing out. Remember Mel and Kim? Mel and Kim. If we're gonna go 80s, but let me get more.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:10

No, we're black. We don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:12

They were black from Britain.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:14

It's not the same.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:16

Black Britain, different than Melbourne.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:18

Can we pick can we pick somebody of color, please?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:20

They were of color, they were like my shade. They were my they were mixed breed like me. Cal.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:25

What did they do? Did they have one hit?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:27

Five star, how about that all fall down? What? No, just kidding.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:30

That was a great song, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:31

Um, who do I want?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:32

Um not that your uh idea was invalid, but it was stupid.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:37

Yeah, yeah, no, no, it wasn't. Kind of like your IDE, invalid. Um, let's see.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:42

I don't need an IDA. My face card never decides.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:45

But uh, let's see. What the we got? Come on, Queen and let me think. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

How about Nick Drakeitas?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:52

You motherfucking bitch. God damn you. Oh, she's gonna sing me to the very end, honey.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

One of her exes. Another one. Another one. Another one, and another one, and another one.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:04

I could never have anything of mine.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

That Park Avenue apartment, honey. You treat shoes. You know what's funny? That I lived on uh 38th and Park, uh, and it did have a revolving door.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:16

Yes, it did. It got used. It did definitely got used.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:20

Not in the apartment. The entrance to the apartment had a revolving door, but she had to get upstairs. Yeah, hello. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:26

Um, just to be quirky and a kiki after what my sister said. I'm gonna say either Debbie Gibson or Tiffany, Tiffany, because she only had one good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:34

Debbie Gibson.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:35

Debbie Gibson's fears.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

It's Deborah sorry. She will let you know that. She will let you know. She will let you know. Oh yeah, we she was at an event and she was like, it's Deborah. I was like, okay, mama, you got famous from your name.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:49

Wait, wait, Queen, I just remembered something. Remember at Lot 61 when you read uh Jeannie Becker?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

Oh, I mean, that I do that quite often, but I'm I'm so bad with celebrities.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:58

She's like, she was on the microphone at Lot 61. Lot 61. That Amy Stoff used to own remember she had uh Lot 61 and um Bungalow A, but Bungalow A. You were Oh Bitch, and that's a photo of me, you, and the other girl with the hats on. Remember what the hat?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:13

Yeah, let's.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:14

Remember the hat that you posted of the three of us with the suits on? Yes. It was that night. Yes. And you were on the microphone, and Jeannie Becker was the fashion uh the fashion host, yeah. And whatever she's like, Jeannie Becker, if you don't shut fucking shut your mouth. I mean, she was talking the whole time. Yes, yes. Everybody was like this. She was and she was in the front row. Yes, yeah, from fashion television.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:34

She was trying to get her moment, and it was like in the midst of a show.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:37

Like, and people were involved, yeah. Halal Quirrilla's fucking performing and turning out, and she's literally the only one talking. And people were like, It's disrespectful. It was disrespectful. So she got up and read it and she laughed it off. I'm like, no, bitch, she's being serious.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:49

Do you know I am so clueless with celebrities? I had this I had this performer come on stage, and the entire audience is screaming, and I was like, uh, we had a sing-off, and she was like, I was like, first of all, I was like, What do you do? She's like, I'm a singer. I was like, Where? In the shower.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:05

Because it's like a little white girl, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:06

Right, right, right. And she was being annoying. So I was like trying to. And yeah, and I s and so we started singing, and I sang a note, and she sang a note, I sang a note, she sang a note, and I keep going higher and higher and higher, and I sing a high C, and she she couldn't. And I was like, there you go, bitch, get off the stage. Oh my goodness. It was all over the internet, and uh they were like, drag queen reads Vanessa Hudgens on stage. Who's that? Exactly, exactly. She's some Disney character, she's an actress, she's an actress performance. Maybe I saw her face. Yeah, Vanessa Hudgens. And uh, what was she in? What's she in? High school musical. Oh, so yeah, I never know. I know. And I felt so bad. I felt so embarrassed because she's actually a singer, I guess. Because she's in a performer at Disney. And I was like, oh yeah, Chaperone was in my audience the other day. I didn't know who she was.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:54

Quita, you always bring the children to the yard, honey. I know, yeah. Quita, thank you for bringing one of your faces here. I'm sure we'll have you back for a second one. You're welcome back anytime. We'll see how long it takes to get you back. You guys, we're here every Thursday. Like, subscribe, sending you blessings, love, and light, and always some brown sugar kisses. What you got, girl?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

I got some honey suckle leaven for my sugar dumplings and deuces, motherfucking bitch. And because we got her here, give us a send-off, honey.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:25

Oh, I love your chins.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:27

Ah, y'all! Love you, have a good day. Why did I do this?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

No, honestly, I love that you can uh try to pull off that dress at your age. It's very brave. I love your brave bravery. Wait, this is not a send-off. No, I'm sending off. I love, I'm looking in the camera. I love Lina's bravery in fashion, and I love Connie's uh talent with putting up with Lena's bullshit. On behalf of Lena and Connie, this is Queda saying, peace like, subscribe, and follow us on all media channels.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:06

Our show is produced by Josh Rosenspach and Matthew Green. Our gorgeous graphics are by Daryl Raymond. Our theme music is You Need It. Produced and written and performed by 808 Beach, John J.C. Carr, and Bill Coleman. Courtesy of Peace Biscuit. Our perfect production designer is Daryl Dickens. This season's hair has been done by the heavenly hair goddess herself, Mariah. Our very special thanks to Jason Cannon for all your wonderful support. The cutting up is a Pride House Media production.