Black Hole // It's Attempted Murder on the Dressage Dance Floor

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We're going horse dancing.

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The video thing is gonna be interesting for me because I haven't done this yet. Look, I literally don't know what the fuck I'm doing. But I have been told that I need to try. So I'm trying. I'm like trying to figure it out. My husband's supposed to be home. My husband's supposed to be home in like 30 minutes. Um, and I have like an hour and a half podcast that I need to do right now. So I'm gonna try to get through a little bit of it and we'll see when he shows up. And uh you know what? That's what we're gonna do. But the first thing that I need to let everybody know is that I have some news. It's been a while since I've done the pod. I've been on I've been in my A. Like I've had a few things going on. Um yeah. Let me like get like a little personal here. Adjust the mic. I bet I have like had a little like a few personal things going on. Um been going to the doctor and have had like a few like stomach issues going on, and um went and like got a scope, right? And they were like, Well, first of all, they put me under, and they were like, you need another round to go under, and we were all like, Okay, and then they were like, you have like too much food sitting like at the bottom of your stomach where it's not getting digested enough, and so then they made me go in to get basically two different tests, right? One is like I needed to go in and get a test where I eat this oatmeal, has radioactive shit in it, so they can like see how I'm digesting food, and then the other one is an allergy test, so they're like trying to see what's going on on the insides, and the diagnosis has come back, and it is the scope came back inconclusive. Um, food, the digestive test, they were like, you're digesting normally, and then the allergen test, they tested me for like 80 different things, food and environmental allergens, right? One positive, and it was cats. Look at this. Hold on, hold on for the people in the audience. Oh, jeez, I forgot I was charging with my belt. Hold on, for the people in the audience now that I'm recording. Look at this. I have a hypo hyper allergen. I have a hyper allergen in the audience at all times now. So really big inconvenience for me. Um, it's my daughter, so it's like what am I supposed to do?

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I have to live with her like for the rest of my life.

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So, um dealing with that, and so also on top of me being allergic to my cat, her her surname has come to be a I just don't like him anymore. I'm just gonna say it. Jimmy Fallon, you've ran your course with me. You were cute, you were cute and you were funny, you know? Like when we were in college, even when I was in high school and we were in college, and even when you would break, I was like, it's cute, because he thinks it's funny, like, and we think it's funny, so it's like we're all laughing. And now it's like, no, no, no one's laughing anymore. No one's laughing at you patting Donald Trump's wig, or like acting like nothing's happening. I don't know what's going on with this guy, but I don't like it. So I have decided that I have slighted my cat. I've done her a disservice. She doesn't even know. Look at oh my god. Oh my god. Hold on a second. Look at this beautiful angel. And she doesn't even know what she's being put through. This is blasphemy. Like to me, I'm doing a disservice to her by not trying to give her a better life. So uh I'm putting out a call for new names for my cat. So uh I I've put out a survey. Let me know if you want the link. I will send it to you. Just send me a DM at I don't even know what my thing is. The Curiosity Trip. Just DM me and be like, I want to help you name your cat, new name. Just say at new name and I'll send it to you. Some choices are Jimmy, uh Kimmel, Seth, Rosatia, Matilda, and whatever you guys want. Just submit something. That's all I'm asking. My cat deserves a better life than this. Okay. That's all we want. All right. Um, so before I dive in to this deep black hole that I have for you today, I have to gently, gently recap the Bravo sphere because there's so much since that has been happening since I've been there that I'm like, I don't even know what's happening. All I know is that Sierra Miller can't do no wrong. And Midwest. I live in the Midwest. And I will call you Midwest. And Scamanda. All of that, I can't wait for the new episode tomorrow. It's honestly kind of driving me crazy because I need the reunion like immediately. I need it. The leaked audio. I only heard the first leaked audio. Um, I don't know if I care to hear the rest because it's like I don't know. What else is there to say? They obviously are fucks. You know what I'm saying? I really don't care. Um, the other thing I wanted to touch on was the Met Gala situation of it all tonight. Summer House tangential, because Sierra was commentating tonight. She looked like a pillow, a bed bug. I love her. I didn't like her outfit tonight. She's trying new things, and I will give her that. Like, whatever. What she's booked an BZ. She's doing the thing, and I commend her for it. I appreciate her for it. God bless her, and she's doing her thing. I didn't like whatever she was wearing tonight, but she was sitting down the whole time, so you really couldn't tell anyway. But I didn't like the bottom, so it didn't matter, you know? Um, what else do I have here? Um, yes, yes, yes. We are booked and busy. Wow. Okay, so it really took me a long time to remember the word scab, so I wanna I wanna make sure I say this. We are booked and blessed and busy, and that's all we can ask. While this calloused little nasty scab, z are probably hiding in six-month-old Midwest sheets. That's what's up. Um oh, okay, so the point of this black hole at the end of the day is horses, and I love this tie-in because the theme of the, like I just said, is horses and summer house tangential Lindsay, our mother Hubbard, was just on Watch What Happens live with horse hair tie, which we know was poking fun at West, Midwest, who wore Montana Girl Horse hair tie, which I was excited about. Montana Girl horse hair, and West, because he's a Capricorn, until all this shit happened, and now he's a fuck. But I love that Montana Girl is still getting love from Mother Hubbard. So if you want to check out her horse hair ties, her handle, from my understanding, and don't knock me if I get this wrong, is at I think it's Mia M E J A dot M Marino. M-O-R-E-N-O. If you want a horse hair tie, check her out. I think they're cool. I might buy one. I haven't even looked up how much they are, but if I have enough money, I will buy one. I'm a Montana girl in a Montana world. You know what I mean? So that's on that on Summer House. Woo! That was a lot. Okay. Uh Rhode Island. I feel like I want to dedicate more time to, but I will say it's new. I love it. It's so weird that Ashley I from Bachelor franchise is on it. It's not weird that she's still crying. I just can't. And Jared is just like working in a coffee shop. I'm like, I don't understand their story arc. Kelsey's wild. I mean, I just love it. I wanna I want to talk about it more in depth. So I want to save it. I want to save it. There's a lot going on there. I feel like this light is like in my eye. Am I wrong? Okay, let's let the jellyfish have a moment. Okay. The other problem, quickly, Southern hospitality is back, and I love my babies because I was born in Charleston, South Carolina. I don't know if a lot of people know that, but those are my roots. I have a deep presence there. So I'm excited that the season is back. Um, it's been very chaotic. This Emmy uh storyline I really hate. I kind of wish it would just be over. I wish Leva would just take a grasp on the story and just make it be over and move on without her. There's plenty more. Uh there's so much more to this friend group than Emmy. And Will's not even in the friend group anymore, so it's like, why is she here? That's my point of view, and the the point of view that she's adding is racist, so it's like, why is she here? I don't really understand that. Um, I I really like Brad. Julia's awesome. TJ and Michaels are like unhinged, Mia is a queen, I love Molly. Um, I love that show. I think it's amazing. Those are my favorite shows on Bravo right now. Um okay, so Survivor 50. Also, I'm very far behind on Creed and I were just catching up on that. I just want to point out that it's on my radar and I'm gonna talk about it. And also Euphoria. I just watched it. I've watched like the wedding and um Cassie and Maddie like getting together, the only fans of it all. There's a lot to unpack there too. I just have so much horse stuff to talk about today that I don't I don't have enough time to talk about euphoria today because I need to talk about horses. There's a there is a lot to unpack. Um I think I talked about the Met Gala enough. The last thing I want to talk about the Met Gala. Nope. I can hear my husband coming. Wait, let's let's let him come in and see what he says. Okay, the thing I want to say about the Met Gala, apart from that, is the way that they come in and who's last and who is first, and the way that they ordered it. Kylie, Kendall, Kim, Chris, Beyonce. No Taylor Swift, but then she does have a new doc series airing after the Met Galler coverage on E, which is hilarious. The beef continues for all eternity, and the Queens are fighting. Hello? What are you doing? You got a little vest? And now a word from our non-sponsors. The best part of a road trip isn't the destination, it's the gas station.

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Previously. Previously on. We were talking about Summerhouse, Matt Gala, Sierra Miller. Doesn't matter. Anyway, we were talking about horses. And we're back. Because the reason we are here today is that I watched a documentary. I've been very obsessed with the um Untold uh Fran I don't know if it's a franchise or whatever, but I like the documentaries on Netflix, the un the untold ones. Um and this one is new. The Hawthorne The shooting at Hawthorne Hill. And I I think that documentaries are the only thing that Netflix is good for anymore. Outside of like Temptation Island or Secret Millionaire. Not a lot going on there. Um, but the story is crazy. So the documentary is like 75 minutes. Um and I I didn't want to give away the ending. Originally I was gonna make this episode just be a teaser, but I could not not give it away because it's just too good. Um but I wanted to give a little background on what dressage is before we get into this crazy situation between these people.

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Okay, no, I forget this isn't a touchdown. Okay, here we go. Okay. What is dressage?

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I copied this from an AI thing. I'm not afraid to admit that. I do use it sometimes. Not a lot. Rarely. But today I did because I didn't know what the fuck it said. Okay. Dressage, often described as horse ballet or equestrian figure skating, is an Olympic sport focused on the systemic systematic training of the horse to develop obedience, flexibility, balance, and harmony with the rider. That's actually really beautiful. It enhances the horse's natural gaits and strengthens its physique, allowing for maximum performance with minimal effort. Competitions involve performing precise choreographed movements in a twenty by sixty meter. Arena. I don't know about the arena. It seems like relatively large, but in the grand scheme of things, I'm like sure that it's probably not. Have you seen their outfits? The outfits are astounding. They're like beautiful. They've got the like little hats. It's not like a top, it's like a top hat if a top hat was cut in half. You know, you know what those are? And like maybe the bottom half is like a little wider. And they've got the vest on. And they've got the collared shirt. And like the long shirt, right? And they're on their horse. The one just picked up. Sorry about that. They're on their horse. And they're like galloping around. But they're trying to be, and the other thing is they have to be like very per they're like, it's very disciplined, and like you have to be on it. So when they're parading around, it's like dun dun dun dun dun dun dun, like and it's like the kind of horse dancing where they go up uh like on their back feet, right? Like you know, when you go to um like Monster Jam. When you go to Monster Jam and the mon and the trucks go up on their back wheels and they're like doing the handstand. This uh that's what like the dressage horses do. They go like this. And it's so beautiful. It's it's beautiful. It's like so gorgeous. Um it's an equestrian like figure skating sport, an Olympic sport focused on the systemic training of the of the horse to develop obedience, flexibility, balance, and harmony with their rider. I probably already said that. It enhances their gaits, that's what we said, physique, allowing for maximum performance with minimal effort. Right? I think that makes sense. The competitions involve performing precise choreograph movements in their arena, and their outfits are astounding. How impressive. And how expensive. That's what I itablicized. How expensive. Okay, so Michael was like he bought this horse for like sixty grand, right? And he said sometimes they can go for more than a hundred grand. And then you have to think of like they have to board them and train them, and then they're doing competition costs, like to enter them and like the travel and the equipment, whatever. This is a hefty penny. This is an this is an expensive ass sport. I always forget like how expensive freaking horses are. Do you know what I mean? I always do. I had to make sure my phone was still on because one time I had a thing where it wasn't. Umber? Okay, still going. Um. Also, I don't think I've ever met an Olympian who was poor. I'm just gonna throw that out there. Anyway, so we meet Michael Berason. Michael is one of the main players in this documentary, right? Um, he was an Olympian in 2008 on the Beijing team for addressage. He's an equestrian, if you didn't know. I don't know his birthday. I couldn't find it. But if I had to guess, I would guess that he's a Gemini or a Pisces. The other main player in this story is Lauren Caneric. And the only thing I can find about her is that her birthday is in December, which means she's either a Sag or a Capricorn, which is bad for me either way. But I'm leaning towards Sagittarius only because she's fiery as hell. Because Capricorns can be calculated, but so can Sag. But Sag's are so fiery, and she's like so online, and and Cappies would never be as online as she is. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I say that. Um the best part of a road trip isn't the destination, it's the gas station.

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Okay. So we last left off with JT the horse. Michael has this horse. He buys it for fifty thousand dollars. And he has one of his people from his campus. I don't remember the name. Uh, and this person lets Lauren ride it one day, and she falls fucking in love with this horse. And Michael compares this horse to a Corvette, and he says she is used to driving a Toyota Corolla or whatever. Um, so she starts entering JT, the horse, into all these competitions, and she keeps losing them, which basically keeps devaluing the horse, and so it keeps going down. So he comes after them saying that he didn't want to fight them, they're coming after him to attack them. He's like, I don't want this, I feel threatened, I'm going through a divorce, I yada yada yada basically is like I I got like stuck into selling them this horse for less than it was worth. So he bought it for 50k, sold it for 20k. This other gal, Lauren, was like, no, he was like, I'm going through the divorce, I need this money immediately. Like, can you buy this horse so I can have 20 grand? And she was like, Yes, I will buy this horse. That's what it sounds like. So basically, what it says is there are very unreliable narrators on both sides of the story. It's so fucking complicated. I can't I can't I can't make sense of it. Truly. Michael compares Lauren's writing levels in baseball terms. And he says that she's in the little leagues and he's in the World Series. Okay. Then enters Lara into the chat. This is like a person who it seems like her daughter has been training under Michael, and they're just on this like Hawthorne Hill campus where Lauren and her boyfriend are living. That is like Michael's estate, right? So they're training here, and Lara and her daughter are there, and Lara is the woman that brings up the fact that Lauren is um actually posting all this actu wild stuff on her Facebook. Like paragraphs of information. Laura, a third-party account, who says horse people are quirky. She's setting up the Facebook messages that Lauren is posting throughout all that's going on. So everyone we've been talking about, Lauren is also posting wild and really long ass Facebook posts, but Laura seems to lean Michael. Because she's in the dressage equestrian community, and we all know they're rich. It's all these like it's that community. You know what I'm saying? Like we get it. We get it. She says Lauren used to give her headaches. But here are some examples of Lauren's messages that she used to post on her Facebook. It's about time to possibly go to war. Anyone who repeatedly kicks a resting beast will eventually wake her up. Awake! Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point. The queen must be sacrificed. This is a different post. The queen must be sacrificed to protect the castle. Because she used to use like chest images and metaphors and stuff. This is a different one. Look out, because here I come. This one comes back in the trial. It's like really important. You like really keep that one in mind. It's really, it's really important. Um, I think throughout all of this, Michael seems very, very I don't know. He's just like worried about his image and how he's coming off to people in the dressage world. And again, I will go back to like image and money. It really is about that. Sorry guys, not gonna lie, um. Okay, this part is actually kind of crazy. So he says this. I don't know if this is confirmed because there's no like no one no one else says that this happens, and there's no evidence of this, and this is just me watching it for the second time, and I know that he's dramatic, but Michael says, um Lauren at one point is up at like three in the morning in the trees behind the stable posting on Facebook while she's in the trees, dressed as a ninja, all of this stuff that's making him go insane. And I need to look more into this, like I said, because I didn't see like anyone else talking about this, but I'm like, what random shit to say. They're both just saying the most unhinged stuff about each other. That's why I'm like, you guys are weird. So interesting. Um so the first time watching, I'm like, the stuff that Lauren posts on her Facebook is wild because it's so long. The second time going through, I'm like, I kind of understand from a point because where else is she going to communicate her viewpoint from a community that is so niche and so um like they all know each other. She's like coming from an outside perspective to the point where it's like, of course, they're going to support this guy instead of her. Um I mean, it definitely calls into question the the dynamics of the relationships going on inside of inside of this case for sure. Very interested in it. It's interesting. Very interesting. Um she goes on to uh report him to Safe Sport because there's like some sexual assault allegations going on. Feel like I got ahead of myself and like kind of gave some self away, but he compares it to being like a mini 9-11 against him. He calls Lauren and her boyfriend vagrants and says that they've disrupted his ideal idyllic life from his labradors that he gets to see outside of his door every day. Like, did they did they disrupt your life or your cult? Like, what are you talking about? Also, I think the reason that so this is where it culminates, right? So we learn about the gun. He gets the gun from this woman, Ruth, who, I think, my personal opinion, he purposefully coaxed to come up because he knew that she had the gun. So he was like, wanna come hang out, by the way? Oh, come put that in my safe. But the reason that he goes to shoot Lauren is because Lauren says over again when she reported him to Safe Sport, they were like, Are there minors on the property? And I feel like there's only a handful of times that they bring up sexual assault allegations where I'm like, I don't feel like this is being talked about enough in this case. It seems to be getting slipped by. And that's why I think this guy is like diabolical. I think he got off with like some crazy. I think all of the guys on his team are diabolical. I will say that. I I just can't imagine a world where a guy is like hearing that Child Protective Services is coming to talk to his girlfriend about her children about sexual assault. And his first inclination is to drive to the one person he thinks would be willing or know something potentially and shoot them. I don't know. I mean, we can all have our opinion, but that's crazy. I think there's a lot going on there. But like I said, they're both unreliable narrators. So what the heck are you gonna do with that? And you know what's wild? We meet Michael's legal team, right? Michael's legal team. His lawyer is such a fact. He both are like, we totally got this in the bag. What's his name? Edward Blinkus. I'm gonna call him Ed. He thinks he's the best at what he does, and they're instantly going with the insane defense, and that Michael is going to plead insane by way of Lauren's social media post driving him insane because she basically stalked him to the point of insanity insanity, paranoia, etc. But insanity defense, like they said in the dock, didn't work for John Wayne Gacy, didn't work for Jeffrey Dahmer, they're setting you. Michael. Michael, during this trial. I truly can't. It really is it's like a performance in a performance. It is like so theater worthy. And Ed too. Ed was born for this role. He's been waiting for this moment. And they know exactly what they need to do. You know what else is weird? Michael's eyes never close. You wanna know how I know he practiced being an insane person? He goes like this. I'm scared. I'm truly scared. Beside okay, so there was one moment. Remember when I said, look out, cause here I come. Look out, because here I come. That was one of her Facebook posts. The one where Michael was like, this woman is after me. Yeah. That's a lyric from the greatest showman. So besides that, there were like totally insane and also kind of hilarious things that Ed and his silent assassin Chris. Because Lauren's attorney's name was Chris. And Ed, because you know there's Ed, and if you watch the doc, there's this other guy for a second. You see him a couple times. His name is also Chris. So Ed and Silent Chris. They develop a plan to make Lauren admit that she was trying to beef with Michael and Mary, and she does cop to it in court. And you can see it in the dock. She says it. So what happens? Is this the first of many insanity defense cases that wins? It's insane. It's semantics. Lauren. Lauren and Hercris. They didn't have the right words. They didn't have the right words to convince the jury of what happens. Because, in my opinion, I feel like Michael totally premeditated the whole thing. I feel like all the facts are in front of our face. And I think that Lauren's lawyer didn't know what it took. And Ed and Chris, winning Chris. They had the perfect recipe. And Michael is just like a crazy actor. Truly. You need to leave. And instead tried to use all these sideways and backhanded ways to get her to leave. And when that didn't work, resorted to violence. By the way, what is going on with Mary Haskins and her children? Like, we still don't know. I still don't know. What are what is this like sexual assaulting? I'm confused. Anyway, Michael wins. Ed doesn't have a website for a reason. They're in Florida, by the way. And everyone's so happy. Michael won. Everyone fucking blasted. Warren. On social media after. And then he went to a mental health institution. And then they let him go. Cause they were like, I think you're fine. And he was like, me too. So now everyone's moving on with their lives. Well, kind of. They both have like a million pages of like printed out texts about each other that they just sift through. Probably night after night after night after night about each other. Honestly, amazing editing by the documentary staff. Cheers. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time because I didn't know what was happening. I didn't know who to believe. I didn't know who to trust. I didn't know what to do. Michael, you're crazy. Lauren, you're crazy. Guys, you're crazy. You know what? Money's crazy. Money will people will do a lot of crazy stuff for money and to protect each other. And that's that on that on black holes. Secondly, I couldn't get over my horse thing. I just couldn't. So I was like, what else? So I was like, what else? What other? What other kind of horse stuff is there? I was curious. I don't know a lot about horse horse stuff. Other than when I was younger. My god, how old was I? Hmm. Six, seven. I'll have to consult. Got kicked in the head by a horse. Look at me now. I'm doing great. Okay, so outside of this like crazy Hawthorn Hill situation, I was like, what other equestrian horse situations do we have going on? Because I know these rich bitches be doing some crazy stuff. So other dressage drums. I got you. Let's make this whole deeper. A lot of it was like horse rebuke, horse abuse related, and I was not into that. I didn't even want to look. I read like some of it and I was like, no, no. So I read it and I won't repeat it. I like looked at it for you and I won't repeat. But I did come across one rather particular piece of candy. Not dressage specific, but horse tangential. Yeah. I know you know that name. We're talking peppermint candy. We're talking classic jelly bean. We're talking hard caramel. We're talking the kind of candy your grandpa keeps in his back pocket. Okay, now I'm s now I'm talking like Midwest. Okay. The kind of candy your grandpa keeps in his back pocket. Nice smells like a nice peppermint. It's so good. Not like Midwest. Not at all. Helen Brock disappeared on February 17th, 1977. And in May, 1984 was declared legally dead as of the date of her disappearance. An investigation into the case uncovered serious criminal activity associated with Chicago horse stable owners, including Silas Jane and Richard Bailey. Murder. Helen Brock. Horse tangentially murdered. Disappearance. Wow. More than a decade later, Bailey was charged with, but not convicted of conspiring to murder her. He eventually received a sentence of thirty years after being convicted of defrauding her. They wanted her mantee. It's all about the manty. Alright, let's learn more about Helen. Helen, Helena Montana, Montana girl. All roads lead to anything I want them to go to. Okay. Helen Brock was born on November 10th. She's a Scorpio. From Ohio. She married her high school sweetheart. And then divorced her before she divorced him before she was twenty one. Good for you, girl. Then she found work okay. She found work at a country club in Palm Beach, Florida. Okay, this is why I wrote this down. Because how do you go from a small farm in Ohio marrying your high school sweetheart, divorcing him at 21, and then working at a country club in Palm Beach, Florida, and then meet and marrying the heir to Brock Candy. I would like to be such blessed. Helen. The couple built a home in Fisher Island, Florida shortly afterwards. Then they purchased another home in Glenview, Illinois, closer to the Brock Company factory in Chicago. Helen and Frank spent most of their home in South Florida. Her husband died in 1970. I can see you had someone write your Wikipedia for you. This is actually insane. This is tea because the Brock family. I'm sorry. This is a billions of dollars. It has to be. Like Michael, what's your name? You have nothing on these people. He wishes. That's probably why he tried to commit murder. He wants to be a Brock. Can't be. After a routine medical checkup at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, Helen left for a flight to return to her mansion in Glenview, Illinois, on February 17th, 77. A gift shop assistant near the clinic insisted that she had said, I'm in a hurry. My houseman is waiting. This is the last sighting of her by an independent witness. The crew on the commercial airliner on which Helen was supposed to return to Illinois did not report seeing her on the floor. However, Brock's houseman chauffeur, Jack Matlik, said that he collected her at O'Hare Airport. Matlick further asserted that Brock spent four days at home, that she made no phone calls, and that he dropped her off at O'Hare for a flight to Florida. Ooh. Are they trying to pin it on the houseman? Feels like the Wikipedia is pinning it on the houseman. Matlik was the focus of police attention during the investigation. He repeatedly proclaimed his innocence and angrily denied to reporters that he knew what happened to Brock, Helen, but a former federal agent who worked on the case claimed after Jack's death that he was indeed responsible for her dis Helen's disappearance. Jack's brother was of the opinion that Jack had murdered his sister without any involvement from Richard Bailey or horse racing racketeers. On February 14th, oh Valentine's Day, three days before the 34th anniversary of Helen's disappearance, Jack died in a Pennsylvania nursing home at the age of 79. So, comma, might not even be horse related at all. Dot, well, comma, there you have it. Not all things in life are meant to make sense, are they? Did I write the end of this Wikipedia article? I had to have write that. Oh no, I did. It's mine. I did. Thank you. So it wasn't horse related. Well, there you have it. Not all things are meant to make sense, are they? Alright, well that was absolutely insane. Oh, did you hear that?

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That was my hip.

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Um. I'm going to have to look up stuff about brock candy now. Not jelly beans being equestrian. I'm confused. Anyway. Um, I like to wrap up by saying hand keeping things like weird, whimsy. I'm just like doing the thing. You know, getting through, doing life. So this is what I got. This last weekend wore my favorite shirt. It said I got a lobotomy done at Toyota. It's pretty solid. I've also taken up candle making. I'm like pretty excited about it. I'm trying to get crafty with my hands and like doing stuff. I'm not great at the candle making yet. I'm still trying to figure it out. That's why I'm not showing it off yet. TBD. Um, and then yeah, to to wrap it all around, still allergic to my cat, trying to rename her. Um Creed, Creed has submitted a name Anna Phhylactic. Cause I'm allergic to her now. It's a pretty good one. Oh uh so we we just try to have fun. You know, we have we have to. That's all I know. Call me beat me if you want to reach me. We go the distance, these holes don't stop. I don't know. We know. Toot toot beep beep. All the things. Okay, I love you. Goodbye. The Curiosity trip is hosted by Montana Jane Smith Harold PhD. Who is me?