Between Sets with Vic and Matt

Quick Pumps: Will AI Replace Personal Trainers? The Future of Fitness Is Here

Between Sets with Vic and Matt Episode 14

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AI is taking over everything.

So what happens to personal trainers?

In this Quick Pumps episode, we go rapid-fire on one of the biggest questions in modern fitness:

Will AI replace personal trainers?

We debate:

  • Are ChatGPT workout programs good enough?
  • Is online coaching better than in-person?
  • Are wearables overrated?
  • Do fitness apps create dependency?
  • Will trainers be obsolete in 5 years?

No safe answers. No “it depends.”

Then we go deeper:

  • Where AI clearly wins
  • Where humans still dominate
  • What gyms might look like in 2030
  • Whether in-person coaching becomes a luxury

This episode is fast, opinionated, and built for debate.

AI might change the tools —
but does it replace the human factor?

🎙️ Quick Pumps
⚡ Rapid-fire fitness debates
💪 Real gym talk between sets

All right, bro. All right. Well, is it filming? It is. Oh, damn. So we got that whole. All of it heavy breathing and all that stuff. Yeah. So we're just going to leave it in the the camera in the corner? Yep. Yeah. So you got two quick pumps coming up. Actually, today is more like a quick, quick setup, quick clean, clean toilet. Cleaning the studio, as is the dark side of fitness that I'll tell you about. Yeah. You have to clean and set up for the next day. Well, if you work at a show up the class and it's always magically ready. Yeah. You're like, how do how do you do that? How does that has the blood, sweat and tears? But yeah, I figured might as well make use of the time. And yeah, we all we do is talk anyway. So kind of a good idea. Yeah. Genius. Yeah. Nice job. Was that. Thought it was your idea? Like, I don't remember coming up with this at all. I know, I know. Oh. All right, so we we got a pretty interesting one with a bunch of, like, rapid fire takes, hot takes all that stuff. That's kind of the vibe of our quick pumps, quick topics. But today's overarching topic we're going to be talking about AI. And how it's affecting in relation to the fitness industry. Yeah. Kind of focusing on how it's disrupting the space I guess, or improving, you know whichever either or I think it goes both ways. Well interesting. I'll leave it there. So yeah, we'll just that's it, that's, that's n that's the, that's the end. That's. Yeah. Thanks. It goes both ways. Thanks for listening. So I think like the over asking question is like well and then we'll do just quick like agree. Disagree is kind of like how we usually do our quick pumps. But he knows things like AI is everywhere. It's kind of inevitable. And everything you do due to my toaster has AI now, like, shut up. I don't know how it will one day. It's. Programs like programs are so easy to make now. Like, you could, like, literally you can go on ChatGPT. I actually had a client, like, not potential client reach out and say they were interested in training. And then they said, this is what I plug my goals into. ChatGPT. And it spewed out this massive program for them. But it was really interesting because, like, I looked at it from the perspective of programing and I'm like, okay, I see what it's doing. But it gave him like six days a week, two hours of like cardio every day, like six full body workouts. Because he said, you know, his goals are to lose weight, build muscle, say bye. So I think thank you. Sounds good. I think it's, kind of amalgamated all his goals and gave him a program for each goal. And like, combined that all into like a mega program. Well, I was like, okay, this is a little intense. Like, you can't be training like this. Your prompt really matters, right? That's what it's still limited in that way. Yeah. It really matters what you tell it. And more often than not, you're not going to be specific enough. Because if you're coming from like the client and you, you don't really probably don't have that much knowledge. Yeah. And with this you're just going to be like, hey, chat, I want to get ripped in six months. Yeah. What do I do it. Yeah. This can be like six months okay. Boom. And it's going to like, send you something that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Relevant. But very true. Very true. That's the thing. Like, it's kind of like Google except a much higher, higher end version of it. Yeah. So like what are some of the questions in that first. Well even just like to touch on that. The other kind of just the overarching topic like AI is everywhere, programs can basically be free. Now our coach is going to be obsolete in five years. So let's start with that one. Do you think they will? No. Definitely not. I don't think so. Does your ChatGPT make snarky comments when it sees your stories and you're out partying? No. You need a trainer for that. But I think it's also accountability. Like the in-person business is all about accountability. Like, you sure you can get a program, but are you going to do it? But if you have an appointment with someone, someone's going to be checking in on you. Like making sure dieting, making sure you're eating. And then again, kind of touching on our last episode, being kind of like a therapist and like, you know, someone to talk to in that social aspect. I don't think any of that's going to go away. Yeah, but I think it might it might phase out some clients, like, like people who are savvy enough to be like, all right, I'm just going to hop on this, look up some YouTube videos, and I'll try it on my own. It might take that client out, but I think for the clients that like someone who's knowledgeable enough and yeah, working like has some. Yeah. You've have a couple of years of experience. Yeah. Maybe unless you want to train for a specific sport like powerlifting or bodybuilding that you need a specific coach. But for the average person who has some experience, I think they could probably get away with it. But that's just like looking at my clients. That's not like my clientele. Like most, I think most people get a trainer for knowledge, yes, but also like accountability. Well, what about just actually having that physical person there to help push you, progress you, and even make sure that you're doing things correctly, right? Form the form. Checking is huge, which I was talking to someone and they're like, oh, there could be like a robot for that in the future. I'm like, are you serious? Yeah, I don't think so. Great form. Derek. Yeah, I the best like, no that's not how it's going to work. So but interesting enough sorry to cut you off. There is an app that this company reached out to me. They asked me to like, do a video for them. And it's an AI personal trainer. You prop your camera up and it watches you do the technique and using AI assesses your form and then gives you feedback. It's still not the same though. It's kind of like one of those golf swing. So 100% it's like you're the accuracy. Yes, it's exactly like that. But like you watch as you deadlift and it says, okay, tighten that, push your bum back. It's but it's still not the same though, because at the end of the day, you can't get a lot of the tactile clicks there where you got to like touch and adjust. You can't do that with AI, right? No, not at all. I don't think actually, wasn't it one of the guys at the gym who sent us that article and he said jobs that are AI proof. And one of them was personal training like fitness industry. It has. I mean, I really agree because like we just touched on everything that kind of safeguards it in a way. Like you're you're not going to get those certain things with AI, right? You need that person to be there with you. And it's just like, how how much checkup is it going to do? It can automatically like be like, okay, you've done this this week. You got to progress you next week. Yeah. It only reacts based on the inputs you give it, right? Yes. It's totally output based. So you plug something in it's going to bring you something back out. It's not going to keep tabs on you while you're doing the program, unless if you pay for with an app or program something that it can run like in the background, but or pay for the health doing that. Yeah. You know, so what's next? I don't think it's going to be obsolete. I think it'll like we're saying, just kind of diluted a tiny bit and maybe it'll put some people out of business, maybe like entry level. Yeah. It's probably the least qualified people like at risk. But for people who are like experience for long term, I don't think it's risky. So we'll do some agree disagree as well. We're doing the set up. So I'm just going to rapid fire them. And then you kind of we all go back and forth. Are you going to set up anything or you know, I think I'm going to talk you through the setup. Okay. So agree or disagree, this is actually all set up goes normally. I coaches replaced personal trainers. We both said disagree ChatGPT programs are good enough. We answered some of these. Depends. Yeah. This is more of like a neutral maybe like like it's going to spit out something, something good that you think is good. But going back to what I just said, there's not going to be that, like, it'll it'll spit out, let's say, a three month program with progressions and whatnot. But then afterwards, you're going to have to go back in and tell it all, all of your findings and be like, okay, what's I need to do the, the a new program from here. Yeah. And how do I going to make it on its own. Right. Yeah. It's not going to know that you're in this block or this phase. It's kind of just like all right. Just, you know, so I think similar was saying earlier for maybe for like someone who has some experience, maybe you're like kind of bored of your program. You're like, all right, give me like a chest and back focused workout. Like, I've done that before where I'm like, I don't really want to think. And I've asked, all right, hit me up with a 40 minute arm workout. Yeah, I'll just pump it out. And it's not because I don't have the knowledge. It's more like the convenience of like, oh, I just read through this. Yeah, my, this is pretty good. And most of the time I end up changing stuff. Anyway, I was just about to say you have the if you have the knowledge already, you could be like, okay, this is cool, I'm gonna take this and then I'm just going to do like the final 10% and modify what I feel is necessary for me to actually, you know, get a get working out of it. Yeah. Okay. Next one is online coaching is better than in-person, I think I disagree with that one from an AI perspective or just in general. I think it's kind of like just AI and the digital age kind of thing. I think it depends like financially, if you're successful, I think it's way better because it's like, again, the last episode we did, it's more scalable. Depends on your goals. Right? Like if you have proper goals and something in mind that you want to achieve, then I think the one on one hands on approach is the best. So but like you could make some progress. Let's say if you're fresh and you just want to like for example, you're overweight and you want to start losing a bit of weight, you go and ChatGPT or whatever AI you use clod, Gemini, whatever. Yeah. And you go, hey, I want to just get moving and it'll probably spit out like, okay, go on a five kilometer walk nice and slow. Take an hour, hour and a half out of your day. Just go inside and walk. You could start like that and then make a bit of progress. But you're going to plateau. Yeah, definitely. The in-person I think is not going to go anywhere. So yeah, I think still like is the superior over online. And I know next one we have is again it's more about the tech space, not just say AI wearables are over rated. Agree or disagree? Top one I'm kind of neutral. I mean, I love wearables, you know me, I'm a super sorry. That was an alliteration. I've always liked there you've been the Apple Watch guy forever. And now you have the loop as well. But I don't know. I think wearables are pretty sweet, to be honest. They're a bonus. You just can't get like, too obsessed with them. I was just going to say I think there's like, if you're the type of person who freaks out about, like, data and you're like, super type A, I can see it being toxic, you know what I mean? Like, oh, my recovery is only 43%. I can't work out. Yeah. Can't do it. You know what I mean? I work out on like 1% recovery times. You have to base it on how you feel. Yes. It's just a it's just a guideline. Is just data, right. Yeah. It's more like it's your daily decision on on what the like. It's like I've never seen those like TikToks where people are like, people use ChatGPT too much and they're like having conversations like, yeah, hey, Chad, they said, hi. What should I say back? It's like, so you can say hello back. Yeah. And they're like, I love chat. Everything. It's kind of like the app. Yeah. But yeah. No, I think wearables are are dope. I don't think they're overrated. I don't think they're underrated. I think they're kind of to each their own. And I find like nowadays most people, every person in class today had a Apple Watch, a Woop or an or some form of a wearable on. So it's like I think it's just like pretty commonplace. I think it's just kind of it helps enhance Jarvis, enhance the work that you're already doing. It is a tool at the end of the day. So with this I have a secondary thing that I wanted to add to it. Do you think that, like tracking your data is killing your intuition or like killing your ability to kind of understand where you're at, with your body, I think. Yeah. And a little bit probably. I think so probably in most people it could be because like, you're like, oh my God, I didn't close my rings. I need to lose my rings to get almost like successful day you got you don't close your rings. You're you're like depressed and sad, like, oh, I didn't work out enough today. Meanwhile, you could have still had a great day. Fitness wise. Yeah, I could see the negative aspects of it for sure. I think it also comes back down to what we were saying earlier about like, experience. Like you're. Yeah. How long have you been if you're an experienced lifter, regardless of what your rings or Hooper says? Matt. Not just lifter experiences. Just let's. Yeah. Fitness. Sure. Let's go with that fitness enthusiast. You're going to have better intuition. But if you're someone who is new, I can see it being potentially toxic where I just becomes too reliant. Yeah, like I actually had a client recently who got the whoop and the aura and returned both because she was just like, it's too much data. Like I'm overwhelmed. Like when I told her, I told her I had 30% recovery and she said, were you hospitalized? I'm like, are you serious, bro? No, I just had a couple. I had a little too much fun the other night. I had a couple drinks. My body didn't recover. And where you on? She literally said that. She's like, did you like, were you in the hospital or something? I'm like, no, I had six tequila sodas. That's what happened. And yeah, that that thing, the trackers really, really make it known that drinking is bad for your recovery. It is terrible for your recovery. But 80, 20 rule, maybe 80, 20, 80, 20. Here's the next one. Fitness apps create too much like dependency. What do you think about them? Like people are so not not talking about trackers like, you know, even nutrition track nutrition trackers or maybe workout apps. Yeah. Because people can. People become too yeah, zoned in on it or, you know, dependent, which is the word that was used. Yeah. Because they're not able to differentiate the fact that it's there as a supplement, as an Aids, a guideline. Now to guide to help you. And then it becomes like their gospel. Like their Bible. Yeah. Or their Koran or whatever. And they or their religious text. Yeah, exactly. They're like, I have to whatever all of this forever. I cannot deviate. Like, if I deviate, my life is over and you're just like, bro, chill out. I think I'm just going to touch on this real quick because it's kind of like, addition to that between humans and AI and and fitness. Where does I like stand out and what a human stand out. So humans obviously we said it's the one on one the interpersonal connection, the like cueing and AI has that automation and efficiency. I think that's kind of the difference between the two. I think I excuse my French almost let one go there. I don't I'm excuse me myself, but, but but he's tired, I am tired. It's been a long day. I think AI is a great tool, dude. Like, I use it all the time for a lot of stuff. And that's what it is. The keyword, it's a tool. It's a tool that we are grateful for. In case the robots are listening. Make sure you tell it, please and thank you all. Yeah, always be nice. Always be nice to your chat bot guys. You never know. I saw some videos of robots training with guns and I'm, I'm getting a little worried, and I'm with my friends. So for those ones that are, like, flipping around everywhere do in Korea, the Boston Dynamics ones, I'm like, I don't like where this is going. I've seen too many movies. This okay hot takes. Next up, we're going to react to these okay. This is kind of a repeat. So I'm going to skip through them. Yeah. Skip the repeats. Yeah. Data tracking is killing intuition. We kind of just talked about that. And I think we both said that. That's pretty true. The best program is the one you enjoy. I mean, if you're getting hate in your life while training, I mean, to some, some extent you will be because you're supposed to be pushing yourself and, like, struggling while you train, which is kind of entering that state of discomfort. So you there is supposed to be a bit of an element of not enjoying it, but overall, you're supposed to like what you're doing. Yeah. Like you don't want to be waking up thinking, oh, I'm dreading it. I have to like, oh, I have to work out today. First off, you get to work out. That's like, you should be happy that you're able to move your body. Yeah. There's people that don't even have gyms. Yeah, or just the means to do that or. Yeah, worse. You know, people out there that have to use rocks and they're always the most jacked to crazy. We're out here using like $25,000 equipment. Nautilus equipment that tracks your exact range of motion, or the techno gym where it makes it like a game. You're like, yeah, it's down and up and down. And there's a dude in the jungle lifting a rock. That's two times bigger than he's so freaking shredded. Yes, 100%. You need to enjoy what you're doing. You got to do it for the love of the game, love of the game, or else you're not going to stick to it. Okay? We're standing on business today. That's all we're doing. Let's do a couple future predictions before we finish off. What do you think? This will probably take a little longer too, so it's perfect. What do you think gyms will look like in the year 2030? So it's actually really close. I made it seem so far it's literally it four years. Well, I think that there's like going back to the Techno gym shit that we just, I just mentioned, like there's going to be some element of a built in AI or AI agent in probably some of the machines. Maybe you're going to wear some sort of trackable thing, but these are only going to be like the high end facilities. Yeah. And then there's going to be some kind of hybrid element of it. Not coaching you, but kind of telling you where you're going wrong or or kind of I don't know even what the word is, but like helping you. Oh yeah. Get to that next rap or whatever. Yeah. Probably like a mixture of form correction. One more. So an advanced mode of tempo control, that type of thing. But I don't think like I like you said, I think it's high end gyms that will have a really cool, fancy equipment that like, like I said, I went schmancy. I went to a gym that had like Add, like I was doing a chest press. And as you're doing it, there's literally a graph that shows like how kettlebells here. Yes. Right in the front there, how your range of motion is. So I think that's like pretty cool. But so what you were saying earlier, I don't think it's going to I don't think gyms will be that much different. You they might look nicer with whatever the esthetic is of the time in the far future of 2030, maybe I will, I will just be used for the front desk. Yeah. Just check. No more front desk workers. My clients will never get in there. They're always sneaking in. No no no no no. You'll be like. You'll be reprimanded by the by the AI system if you try to sneak in your credit, your credit, your social credit score goes down. You know, like the one alarm. Yeah. You pass through, it'll be like. A bunch of, like, machine gun turrets coming. Exactly. Thief. Coming in the gym without a membership. This person's poor. They're not paying their membership. Yeah. So. Yeah. Very well. Be, like, at the front desk, I think. Yeah, I think that's actually very likely. But yeah, in terms of, like, what the actual facilities will call, like, I think they'll be pretty much the same. I don't think much is going to change gyms within Canada. So maybe like there'll be a new trend. Yeah. Like a new right now, you know, hierarchies big. Maybe something else will come out in the 4 or 5 years that I've been more champions in the gym. Like, dude, machines are the machines. You can just make them. Yeah. Stuff's been working for 100 years. Yeah, like nothing's going to show you. We're going to invent a new barbell. That's. That's crazy talk. This barbell is built in with AI. There's barbells built different. It talks to you. Yeah. You you lift. You call that a squat? That's bullshit. Will in-person coaching become a luxury? Oh, I think so. Maybe not by 2030, but I think long term, yes, I think it will be a lot more of a luxury item because like I was saying earlier, I think the average person might look at the cost of a trainer, you know, like, I can't afford that. I'm just I don't want to pay it on my $100 an hour. Yeah. When I can pay 30 bucks a month for ChatGPT and have some programing, I think that'll happen. So I guess that'll dilute the potential for clients. But, I think it will become definitely more of like, luxury item. I think in some ways, depending again, on the experience of the coach is already there. Yeah. Like $100, $120 an hour for, for a session is expensive, right? 100% and even and you can charge even more and. Yeah. And then when it becomes a luxury item, then the price just goes up because you're the demand is higher, right. Will influencers replace the way you said I was reading our influencers replace certifications slash certified trainers? I friggin hope not. Yeah, I know you can't. That way you it goes back to like the diluting of the expertise and all that stuff. Sure, maybe to some extent, but you need to have the ability to weed out the good info from them. You gotta weed them out. Are we going to put do you think two lines of kettlebells is good or should we. But I don't know where to put the third one. There's another kettlebell station now. Or am I going crazy? It's just 6 to 6. Okay. Yeah, just one two lines is fine because it's single. It's, Okay. So double. Oh, is it a double? I think two lines is fine. It's Friday, it's Friday. Got to get down Friday. Remember that song like a block? And another one here for the future. Do you think people will train more or less. In like just in terms of their, like, willpower? I think like because they think maybe it means like, well, will workouts become more efficient? Will people actually potentially I think like like I'm the science is always changing. I'm seeing some people preach that's three days a week and max effort is better at this. Gaudet. Yeah, five six. But there's a lot like a lot of our clients and there's a lot of people out there that like to do some form of fitness almost every day. Every day. Yeah. Because it helps with the mental mentally helps with how they feel that day. Yeah. And I'm kind of in that camp too. Like I like to feel a little odd if I don't do it. No move at all. Yeah. And if you go back to our ancestors and predecessors, they were walking large distances every single day. They were doing, like, grueling things. Hunting? Yeah. Repairing carcasses or whatever the hell they were doing, hunting literal prehistoric predators. And so they weren't like, oh, today I'm just going to do nothing. I'm gonna take a rest day today. Yeah, you know what? I ain't going to hunt today. So I think it's probably a mixture like yes I know. Yeah. And I think also in addition to that, I think it can be less if there's more, let's call them supplements that enhance, you know, recovery, muscle growth, peptides. Just as a just as an example, you know what I mean. Like that become more readily available to the average person. Yeah. That will just make the training more efficient. So you're going to get more out of it. Yeah I think I think we go both ways. I mean I'm probably many training 4 or 5 days a week for all I know. What about free ups versus paid like, oh, you know, like some someone that's looking for a program that we kind of spoke about with AI and they don't want to spend money. You think they're going to be able to get? I think they'll get value. I think it'll be gate capped, like it'll be a basic. And if you want, it is right now. Yeah. If you want like tracking and progressive overload and stuff like that, you'll have to pay. But that comes back to the other point where it's like 30 bucks a month is still cheaper than 1200 a month. Yeah. You know what I mean. So I think I agree, I think, most people will have access to some app of some kind on the basic level or on more of like a paid level, and they'll be able to kind of use that. So I don't know. And then in terms of the program styling, like keeping it simple, basic or where do you think the most value is having a super optimized program for the person or just like splitting it, like let's say with I, you mean I versus, in person? The personal trainer argument, like a pet is going to be able to give you like something that's very customized. Very. Whereas the AI is not going to be able to do that, you're going to have to tell it like your whole life story. Yeah. It's like still they won't be able to I did these movements. I felt this way and what can I do to fix it? Whereas a coach will just kind of intuitively pick up on that. Yeah. So which is, which is better like a hyper optimized program for someone to get to their goals or just a basic one? That's kind of silly question. And it proves why, you know, I don't think personal trainers are going anywhere. Well, it's it's it's depending on the person. Again, like beginners, you don't need a super optimized program. It's going to move your body. Someone has advanced with more very specific goals. Then you have to maybe have someone coach you and customize your program on a weekly, biweekly, monthly basis for ins sports specific like a beginning. Ready? If I was getting ready for another like finish or bodybuilding show, there is no way I would imagine as ChatGPT and be like, hey, how do I get ready for my peak week? When do I cut water? When do I yeah, check in weekly check in? Yeah. When do I do this? Yeah. Every time. Okay. Now you can need some Rice Krispies. Yeah. Like, oh, you have to eat this ten minutes before going on stage. Like, that's experience that you can only get from someone who's done it. And life for train people exactly. Experience hyper optimize. Never going to be able to opt to kind of recreate that. So why don't we kind of end this one off? Because we're almost done here with kind of just a general opinion on how I will influence. I'll kind of give mine. You can give yours. I think they're going to be the same because we are the one minded man. There's going to be some form of, of like meshing or hybrid mixture and automation. But I think it's kind of coming back to that, that tool concept. Like I could see personal trainers using it as a way to optimize their program building. I mean, we are I already I'm we already kind of use it anyway with like our the apps that we use and have our clients. It's like that's it's not like I'm sitting in there and spending hours putting in every minute detail. I kind of like uses AI to help speed things up with speed. Yeah, like it's optimization. It just makes things easier. And I think that's where AI is, where it's the strongest is just being used to help with whatever profession you're in. And I think some professions are obviously more susceptible, like data entry, like I'm sorry to say, but you're probably cooked like like I'm sorry. Like an AI model can do the work of 75 data entry guys in one hour. Yeah. So like, you might be you might be screwed there. So if you're a data entry guy, might be a good time to look into PT, start getting your certification service industry. That'll do it. But yeah I wanted to kind of touch on the diet part of it. Like I don't see any way that other than like, oh, you know what? Diet tracking apps where you can take a picture just about to say, how do you feel about those? So like it's not 100% accurate, getting better gives you an idea. It is definitely getting better, but how is it going to be able to see like the actual volume, like the size of it? Right. You can only it's on a ton of phase two dimensional. Yeah, it's 2D scale. I don't know how you can make it 3D, unless if cameras get to a point where it can get like scan through or like do like a panoramic or something. Yeah, but like that's kind of a cool, slightly gimmick. Slightly useful just for an idea. But what I meant was like, there's no way AI is going to be able to write you a freaking meal plan. Now, like give you a very basic, basic if you tell it, hey, I'm 30 years old, I'm 200 pounds, I'm. I'm active. Is I my thing? I think this is my basal metabolic rate. Give me a diet plan. I think that in terms of AI in relation to fitness, I think for food trackers it'll be pretty like big. I think that'll actually like not coaching, but I think for food tracking specifically like we use macro factor. For example, shout out Jeff Knepper, sponsor us, sponsor us. And with macro factor like and even carbon they northern sponsor us when we when I was using those it had like the weekly you know you would check in and based on your food logs your weight on the scale body fat, it would then say, okay, increase or decrease your calories like that I think is pretty good. Like but but that's done through an app and that's based on your inputs, right? Yeah. You're it's not going to be a point where it's just going to automatically be able to tell you that. Yeah. So there's like that hybrid idea of you're going to have to constantly interact with it. I guess that's the same for a like an actual person. You're going to have to stay on point with your shit and update them every week, and then they're going to do the same thing. So I think they're kind of on par and that yeah, respect. I think at the end of the day, it's not going to replace training and nutrition advice from a human, but it will definitely enhance that. And then if you're a trainer or someone or a nutritionist, you should start learning about AI and how to integrate it. Because if you don't, you're going to fall behind. Yeah. No, you def there's going to be some sort of hybrid element for sure 100%. So we're going to work together not against each other. And then eventually we'll get the old neural link down. Oh buddy, I'm so down. Then I'll just start telepathically telling my clients what to do and they still won't listen. Did we finish? We're done. That was sick. I was all right. All right, guys, see you guys later. See ya. Wow, that worked out nicely.