The Government Already Told Us — UFOs, Aliens & The Stuff Nobody Can Explain - Between Sets with Vic and Matt

The US government admitted UFOs are real. A man with a security clearance testified under oath to Congress that they've recovered non-human craft and biological material. And we just… moved on.

In this episode of Between Sets, Vic and Matt go fully down the rabbit hole — and this isn't a tinfoil hat episode. Some of this is congressional testimony, declassified documents, and on-the-record statements from Navy pilots and Air Force officers. And some of it is completely unhinged. They're covering all of it.

No correct answers. No agenda. Just two guys asking questions that literally nobody has good answers to.

In this episode: ✅ The real government UAP disclosures most people missed ✅ The Tic Tac UFO, Phoenix Lights & Rendlesham Forest — cases that still have no explanation ✅ Area 51, the Moon Landing, Simulation Theory & the Fermi Paradox ✅ Bigfoot, the Bermuda Triangle, Lizard People & the Mandela Effect — rated ✅ If aliens are real, what does that actually mean for humanity? ✅ Rapid fire — Believe It or Leave It ✅ The one question they'd each want answered about the universe

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First day wearing shorts. It's a nice feeling. It only took a year. Yeah, and it's only gonna last a day. This is like May. It's end of May? Mid May. It's only gonna last a day though. No, we don't. It's gonna be sunny. You wanna intro this one? Hello? Okay. That's it? Uh another couch session. Yeah. Just slowly phasing into just talking, sitting down. Every episode of this like slightly more like a regular podcast. Next one we're gonna have like a table with the mics, and then finally two different cameras. Yeah, and then finally we're gonna have the actual full studio setup. And we're gonna have papers printed and we're gonna wear suits and ties. Oh, it's a fancy one. Nah. But uh yeah, we are gonna kind of go a little bit out of the norm here and we're gonna talk about some conspiracy stuff. Gonna get into a little fun episode. We are gonna probably do a bunch more of these where we just kind of you know do like nerdy stuff, gaming stuff, life, pop culture, life. And we're like, why not start with uh, you know, talking about that's the X-File sound. ET. We talk about aliens for the most part. Yes, yes, with all these government files being dropped and the not UFOs anymore, UAPs. Unidentified anomalous phenomena. Is that what that is? Because um a lot of these have been cited like out and around oceans and stuff, and like coming out of the water, so it's no longer just like you know space. They're kind of just like anything that they can't identify is I is uh classified as a UAP. As a UAP, exactly right. So um yeah, I mean I I love this stuff. I'm a huge yeah, we talk about it a lot. Yeah, literally, it's like my favorite thing to talk about right now, and it's actually a very relevant topic these days. Uh yeah, the US government just released a bunch of files about UFOs. I like saying UFOs, UFOs, all that stuff, like area uh 41, area 51, sorry. Area 41's area 41. No, I was thinking of the one that uh Bob Lazar was working on something four. It had the number four, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, whatever. S4 or something like that. Yeah, second four. That's what it was. That's what came to my mind when I was saying that, but I meant area 51. Anyways, so very relevant topic. We saw a bunch of stuff online. Obviously, when you're on Instagram and whatnot, and the old interwebs, you don't know what's right, what's not right. What sorry, what's real, and what's not real. How good AI is nowadays. Yeah, just be trying to trick us, you know, from the I mean the old files that were supposed to be, you know, real Bernstein files. Yeah. Don't get demonetized. Yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, dude. So I don't know. I I feel like let's before we get into like the actual parts that we have kind of here. What are your like thoughts on on aliens, UAPs, extraterrestrial, interdimensional beings, as though some of them are being called? I think it's a bunch of bullshit. Really? Yeah. Interesting. I don't think anything's real. Like reality or just that specifically? No, I'm just kidding. Uh yeah, it's I think I've always pondered this topic and question ever since I came out out of the woo-woom. You come out, you're like, hmm, aliens. No, like it's kind of messed up or hard for me to accept the fact that we are the only things out there. I can't see that being possible. Like, the just like the you know, the one of the oldest arguments in the book for people who are firm believers of it is just like the earth is, you know, they say in the Goldilocks zone, which is um, you know, just enough far away from the sun that you're able to inhabit life. There's water, carbon. There's a couple of like essentials to life, and one of them is water, carbon, and there's like one or two more. Go off, Dr. Matt. Um I'm a physiologist. Um astrology. Astronomy. Um, but yeah, I mean, like we're one pl one planet and one solar system in one galaxy in which there are hundreds of millions of galaxies, billions actually, of galaxies. Was it more planets than sp grains of sand on every beach on the earth, or is that more galaxies? I think it's more galaxies, dude. Yeah, so like the odds of us being alone is an impossibility, right? I just can't. And that's just like we're talking about just like in space. Then there's also the theory that they're like it's they're here, but it's interdimensional, like it's in the fourth and fifth dimension. Things we don't even comprehend, which we can't even possibly comprehend. We can't experience it because we are not on that plane. We're not right, we're not adapted to that realm. That's why some of these uh things are you know seen like like float, like they disappear and reappear. It's like where are they going if they're not going into space or whatever? It's easy, Matt. They're going down to the bottom of the ocean. That's another theory. They're also going into the center of the earth, the earth's core. Yeah, that's where Earth's core is actually a time to travel into 50,000 years into the future. Okay, now I don't think I've heard that one. I think that's a victor theory. But yeah, dude, no, I'm the same. I've always been into like that vibe, like the sci-fi alien vibe, but I've also uh felt the same way where it's like how could it possibly be? And then there's all those other, you know, interesting theories like the pyramids, like how the f were those built, those structures built when the technology there was like, you know, they they're they're perfectly cut at a at a 90 degree angle, hundreds of thousands of metric tons of stone lifted by malnourished slaves. It was like bro, it's easy. The Jews built it. Well, now we're not getting this video up for sure. They know. Um well, no, that I'm not saying anything wrong. That's what they were enslaved, yeah. But the Jewish people weren't. That's what I'm saying, the slaves, yeah, yeah. But uh damn, they do not have a good history, unfortunately. Anyways, sidetrack. But yeah, that's kind of my thought. I 100% think that there's definitely something out there, here, underwater, something. There's also the Maybe there's something here right now that we can't even see them. Yeah, they're probably in this room right now, they're just in another dimension. They're having their own podcast on their own hovering couch, but it's just like two aliens that look like me and you. Maybe that's why my head's like feels weird. Yeah. Been dizzy lately. Um yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of a lot of cool theories. There's also the fact that like the another interesting theory is that they're that the UAPs, whatever, are just just ancient civilizations, like remnants of ancient, because like dirt's been around for billions of years. Who's to say that there hasn't been a full entire civilization that made it to a certain level of advancement? Maybe they went underground or into the water because of a cataclysmic event, and then humanity came after, you know what I mean? Like, that's like a big theory that I've heard that there's uh you know, possibility of ancient civilizations that just like you know uh were here before we were in. There's no history because they died off like a billion years ago. I think the last the last uh argued timeline for an ancient civilization that was more advanced than us was about 12,000 years ago. I don't know if you watched uh the Lazar documentary? No, it's called Ancient Apocalypse. Oh, yes, yeah. Yeah, well, yes, I remember you was talking about Graham. Something something Graham, I forget his name. But yeah, this is he's uh he's kind of an archaeological specialist or like historian. Actually, no, he's uh really a journalist, but he's like dedicated his life to like finding out what happened around the time of like all those floods and the ice age. And it kind of plays into what you're talking about with like a higher uh civilization, more advanced civilization that like maybe they built the pyramids and whatnot, and they had help from God knows where kind of thing, and this is like old idea. Or they were giving aliens some kind of technology to help them do it, and then yeah, yeah, are we just a plant? Like a like a project? Yeah. Well, that's actually that's one of the things I was gonna talk about later. But there's uh it's not in here, but there's something called the zoo hypothesis, which is that yes, there are in fact tons of uh extraterrestrial advanced civilizations, but they're like they just observe. Like we're like a zoo, like a zoo keeper or zoo handler doesn't interact with the animals until there's trouble. And that's why a lot of times these sightings are on like high-tension like nuclear sites. Like, I've heard stories when I've listened to like Bob Bazar and all those big alien guys, where these UAPs were spotted at like nuclear sites, and then they would shut down all power to the site, like and just simultaneously dismantle all the nukes that they had. Like nuts. So it's crazy. So I think that's like a pretty interesting working theory that it's just like these guys are kind of like stewards of the planet, they just like kind of kind of hang around, make sure we don't kill ourselves, and they're just either waiting for us to advance to a certain point before revealing themselves, or we're just like, yeah, like a pet project. Or there's like darker theories where they're just like waiting for us for a certain point before they can harvest like the resources, so yeah, resources on the planet. They can yeah, there's there's so many interesting, like it's so cool, man. Like, I love going into deep dives on this because it's so interesting. There's and there's so many reputable people in the military who would like, why would they risk their careers and reputation coming out and saying they've interacted with unknown technologies, they've seen biological like evidence, like bodies of of aliens. Did you see that picture that was released? Which one apparent supposedly released by the US government to graze, like the short ones with the big head and the yeah, yeah. I've seen a bunch. And it's like a legit photo, and they're they're interacting with some suited men from like the 50s or whatever. I've seen those, yeah. There's there's and it's and like that's all like looks fake, but it's but it's not though, because you it's like, is it or is it because it's like before AI? Like a lot of this is before AI, no idea. Very interesting, but anyway, I'll go through kind of like a couple of the points we have, and and we because we can just ramble, but let's try to have it more like segmented. Let's have a structured conspiracy theory. There's a lot of um now that the government like the especially with Trump putting uh an order to release the UAP files, now it's kind of like it's very hard to doubt that there's something out there, whether it's UAPs or aliens or whatever, or international beings, or maybe it's advanced technology from like you know, our ant our our uh enemies like China or Russia or whatever, that's also a theory. But some of these nah, some of these craft bro that they move in ways that are physically like we drop like 50,000 feet in the middle of the street. And if something uh organic was inside the craft, like a human being, you would be goop. Like you would just literally explode, right? Because of the G force. Um, but anyway, so the government kind of has already been telling us over the years, like, here's a couple cool dates. Um so there's like, you know, in 2017, the New York Times broke the story that the Pentagon ran a secret UAP UAP program called AA AATIP for years. There was also Project Um, what was it called? Fuck there was another one that was uh Project Stargate, which was like one that the government had come out and admitted to where they were using like remote viewers to like try to find alien life or like um, you know, go to like Mars, like remote view Mars, and they found like bases underground and stuff like that. Really interesting stuff. But these are legit funded, like multi-billion dollar government programs. So, like, why is the government putting all this money into programs when you know, unless it's like a front for something, I guess. And then Trump in 2016 and then uh created the Space Force. Remember that? Space Force, yeah, like a militarized. Isn't there like a funny show, kind of like a space for the office style Steve Correll? Yeah, yeah, it's pretty funny, actually. In 2021, the US government released official UAP reports acknowledging 144 unexplainable incidents, so of stuff that they just can't possibly explain. Which is really interesting as well. That is what I'm saying. 2023. Former intelligent officer David Grush, he's really well known in the UAP community, testified under oath to Congress that the US recovered non-human craft and biological materials. And I think that's around where they started. That's why this stuff is so interesting to me because it's like it's really ramped up over the years. Like 20 years ago, if you said you believed in aliens, people be like, You're an idiot. Like, that's so stupid. Aliens, but now it's like, and I think that's I my theory is that they're they're here, they've been here all along, they've been in and out, you know, whatever. Burger. And I think the government has known for years, and they've slowly been like drip feeding it, so it's not a shock. Like when you're constantly releasing media, movies, TV shows, you're having these congressional hearings now where it's like starting to become kind of legit. Well, probably the masses would not be able to handle such a huge thing being revealed. Like people would probably just be up in arms saying, What's the point of me doing this? What's the point of me going to work? Like, why do I have to be able to send you what I mean? Member of society when there's this whole other stuff. Yeah, when there's like this existential threat or crisis, I guess. There's um, I send you, I think, a couple videos about this, but like uh a lot of leaders in the religious community recently. Yeah, they're like getting prepared to tell everyone. Hundreds of like high-level pastors were brought to, I think it was Washington for a briefing about like when he when Trump's gonna do like I think in June or July, he plans to like speak about this topic, and I think that's when we're gonna hear some very interesting stuff. And it's basically to like prepare their yeah, their congregation for the possibility of like losing people because if you know that comes out, people who believe in God or whatever are gonna be like, fuck, well, if that's there's aliens, like is God real then? Like, you know what I mean? And then the theory is that based on that from our people are gonna that they think that they're gonna say that these these are actually our creators, like we were created by this race, and we're like a hybrid project, or like you said, kind of like a science experiment. Um, and it's gonna kind of a science experiment that can get jacked. Yeah, at least they gave us the ability to fucking live. Thank, thank God, you know. Um uh there was a couple of other interesting ones, like we said, more congressional hearings, a lot more whistleblowers, and a lot more declassification. A lot of people just disappearing slash dying, bro. And then, like, yes, there's been 15 or 16 scientists now. David Wilcock was the most remember that guy? Like, he was from the ancient aliens and stuff like that. That guy was huge, and he was not only aliens, he also talked a lot about like the Illuminati and like the the powers that be, and now they're like, you know, a cult, but that's kind of a another topic. We're talking about UAPs, but yeah, like it's been 15 scientists in the last like five years. All of every single one of them was linked to anti-gravity, anti-gravity technology, UAPs, propulsion, um, all those like high-level, high clearance secret government like black projects, and they're all die committing suicide. Like, every single one is like, oh whoops, I drove my car off a bridge accidentally. Like, these people are just getting killed, which is maybe they're being taken to the special land that's that we know not of, and they're just living there with the rest of the aliens and whatnot, and the people who are the higher-ups. I like to think of it like that, you know, like an open-ended uh movie. I think they all just were murdered. Okay, so here's a couple cool incidents that are kind of hard to explain. And let me know if you've heard any of these. I've heard of all these because I'm a huge nerd. If you guys haven't put it together yet, Matt is a master of three part three topics in this world. Number one, peptides. Yep. Number two, fitness. Number three, aliens. Yeah, that's that's it. Yeah, that's a pretty diverse portfolio. I think so. Um, okay, the tic-tac UFO. Yeah. So this one is really Commander David Schrader. Yes, exactly. This is a very famous one. Um, U.S. Navy pilots off California encountered a white tic-tac-shaped object. It's quite literally looks like a little tic-tac. No wings, they locked onto it with the radar. Yeah, no visible propulsion, but it was moving from 80,000 feet to sea level in under a second. Yeah, it just went like Which is absolutely insane. The amount of G force that will create is like I can't even fathom. So it's not it's not G force if it's bending gravity. There's no G force to be expensive. Well, that's yeah. A lot of times when you look at these events and the the these scientists that have been coming out are saying they literally just bend space and time. Yeah, that's how they do it. That's how they move. There's no propulsion. No, no, no. Everything is there's no resistance. Yeah, exactly. So they don't experience G force because there's no force. They're going they're going through gravity, yeah, which is instant. Well, actually, no, around it. They're like bending it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like I think to like Avatar, the gravity bender. Yeah, nice. I think there's even videos where like you can kind of see these things move, and there's like almost a pocket of like air around them, and they're just going through that pocket. So it's like and this coincides with everything that Bob Lazar said. You probably didn't watch the documentary. No, that's on my list. In the documentary on Prime, I rented that shit first day. Nice. Uh, and it it's exactly in line with what he described. There was like nine craft in the area he worked in, and like he said when it was on, it was making no noise, it was hovering, and they even did like tests of it, like moving it around. They just don't know how it functioned. Like, yeah, it had certain elements, very basic, yeah. And like there was certain three elements, like one was called, I think, an amplifier, the other one, I forget the names of them, but they worked in unison when you turned it on. The fucking whole craft moved up and just was able to move any like any direction in space. Yeah. Uh and there was like just a little amount of I for uh it's an unknown element here, but they named it element fuck, I forget one one. Yeah, I can't remember what it is. I remember, I remember, I remember. And they put like this amount on the Joe Rogan podcast into like this post, and that was enough to power up the whole craft. And then I've I heard also um with that experiment because he was on the Joe Rogan podcast and he he talked. Yeah, he talked about his time at this place here, S4. S4, and he said another thing when he was working on this reactor that they were trying to reverse engineer, essentially, right? That's why they brought him on because they they were trying to get someone to think outside the box, whatever, because whatever they couldn't figure it out. He said he also thinks, sorry, that to cut you off, the uh that the guy before him was either killed or died. Was their replacement, he was, yeah. It was like an explosion or something. Yeah, there was an explosion. They were like cutting into like I mean, cutting into alien technology is probably gonna be exploded, yeah, exactly. Um, but he was saying something too, which is like we don't have the technology to do this. He's like, normally in a regular engine or just in thermodynamics in general, heat when you're doing something, it always gives off energy, always gives off heat. Exactly. This gave no heat, it was able to like energize, like you said, almost with no effort, and it was completely cool to the touch. Like you'd be able, they'd be able to like touch it, and it would be freezing cold. Yeah, which is absolutely crazy. And so they they managed to extract one part. There was three of these amplifiers or whatever they're called. They managed to extract one of them and its corresponding parts, and they brought it to the lab. And when they would turn it, there was like a sphere, and then there was like a cylindrical thing that when you spun it 180 degrees, it turned the barrier of the sphere on. And you as hard as you tried to press the sphere, you could not. There was like there was like barrier force field, like there was a little bit of like a give where you couldn't get past the sphere, but then at a certain point you just couldn't go further, and then you twist the the amplifier back, and then you could touch it. So, like those three things were what picked up the craft, I guess. Yeah, and it's what's it's anti-gravity technology, right? Which is what all these scientists that have been missing have been working on. So obviously, we we didn't create that technology, we got it from somewhere, allegedly these crashed sites or whatever, and we've been or the other theory it was given. It was given to us. That's the other theory that it's given to us. It's like kind of like some what he analogy he uses, like it's like going back to you know, caveman times and like lead dropping off a cell phone or something, or like the 16th century and like leaving a cell phone or a lighter. Like re-en reverse engineering. You want this lighter? It's a bicycle. Oh, fire in the palm of my head. Um, apparently, just the TikTok you folks, we were talking about that. Uh apparently uh they they've said that um it was uh that was actually human made and it was like a Lockheed Martin um technology, like advanced weapons systems. Uh another big one, I don't know if you remember this one, 1997, the Phoenix Lights. Do you remember that incident at all? It was pretty big. Yeah. So in Phoenix, um there was a big one because it's one of the most uh most witnesses had several thousand weapons. Witnesses, there was basically a V-shaped set of lights, like a triangle. Yeah, that was like moving through Phoenix. And there's been like doctors, pilots, police officers, even the mayor of Phoenix came out and like made a statement that the government's investigated, and I don't know what it is. And it kind of just like was swept under the rug. Um, but yeah, it was that was a really interesting one. This one I don't think I've heard the Ren Randlesham Forest incident, U.S. Air Force personnel in England report a craft. Oh, I do remember this one. Craft reporting near a nuclear weapon base. They approached it, touched it, and one of the one officer remored reported symbols and on on the hull. I remember this. I was watching a YouTube video on this. Um old YouTube. Yeah, this is all documented. And the two guys that were there, I remember they came on one of those like aliens shows and like talked about it. And then, of course, you have someone like Bob Lazar, who's, you know, he said he worked at S4, which we just talked about, which is a facility near Area 51 responsible for reverse engineering alien propulsion systems. Um, his story has never been fully debunked, and details about element 115. That's what it was. I didn't know were later confirmed. Did I not? You did, yeah. But I I think I said nine. They were later confirmed by the scientific community. So now it's like an official element. So obviously not of this earth. Not of this earth, exactly. The government erases employees' employment records and a supervisor's existence was eventually uh verified. So these aren't like these are like legit high-level people that are coming out and uh talking about that. Also, if you just take into account or if you just even just count the amount of people that are that are reporting these these incidences, and they're all from various parts of the world, and they all have various like similarities, how can people just disregard that? Yeah, like it's it's like enough, it's hundreds, if not thousands, sightings. Let's even people that say they were um they were brought aboard the ship and like probed or like yeah, so questioned and whatnot. There's a really good they all give the exact same uh retelling or recounting of the story. Like, how is this how is everyone saying the same or a similar thing? Similar in there being people are saying that, oh yeah, you're crazy. Yeah, yeah. There was a really interesting uh thing that I I I watched again, like another documentary about this, where this guy who was in the government in like the 50s, 40s, and 50s said, uh, after the Roswell crash, that's the big one. Um, he was saying, like just in relation to these, you know, alien abductions, all these people that have been quote unquote uh abducted. He said that in sometime in the 50s uh or 40s, president, I think it was Eisenhower, he true American patriot. Yeah, he apparently, after the Roswell crash, he like disappeared for like two days. And you know, there was this whole panic. People thought he was assassinated, people thought he was dead. I vaguely remember the story goes from this guy who was at the meeting, said Eisenhower was taken to a secret location where he met two alien races: the Greys, which are like the ones you see in movies, like little green men, but they're actually gray. Uh, and then the Nordics, which are apparently just they look like us, like basically Swedish people. Yeah, like Scandinavians. All Scandinavians have been aliens this whole time. Thor Bjornsson is a fucking alien. That guy's an alien for sure. That guy's an alien for sure, or a giant. He's a descendant of the giants. Yo, that goes into another Thor Odin, the Norse mythology. Norse mythology, yeah. So anyway, but apparently, this just this leads into abductions. The two races basically offered the government a deal. The Nordic said, Okay, we are going to help you cultivate your species. Over the next hundred years, all disease will be cured. All this, like you will basically advance to like a level one civilization. Are we level zero right now? Level zero still, yeah. Level level one civilization, you have to be able to harness the power of the sun. So we're almost there. Yes, yeah. And then level two is like you're able to build what's called the it's I don't it's like this basically like a giant cylindrical thing that engulfs the sun and harnesses all its energy. So then you have infinite energy, then you have infinite energy, and then there's level three and level four, which level four is like you can't even comprehend. You're essentially just like uh a thing of energy that travels through the cosmos. You're not even a physical being anymore. So we're like 0.9. Like we're like 0.8 when I was looking. How are we alive in this freaking point in time? It's this is the craziest timeline ever. Like, how am I alive? How was I not born in like this shitty ass medieval? How was I not building the pyramids? But how am I here? Going back to what I was saying, so the Nordics offered them this, you know, peace, but the um stipulation was you have to dismantle all your nuclear weapons and cease war, essentially. And at the time, this is post-World War II, and we were entering the Cold War. The Grays offered them a different deal. The Greys said, We will actually provide you with technology to reverse engineer, enhance your weapons program, but you have to allow us to experiment on your population. So that's and then they Eisenhower made the deal Bro, why would you pick that one? Because of national security. That's the that's the going theory. He said, We're in a cold war with Russia, we need weapons, humans, bro. Like we could have had fucking world peace and no disease and a lifespan of 350 years, allegedly, but instead we decided to take the weapons and power. Idiot. Yeah, that's the theory, and that's why these abductions are happening, and no one ever dies from the abductions because they're just they go in, they take samples, they're just poking them. Yeah, they're because of the Greys again, apparently, are very like scientific race. Like they just travel the cosmos and study, right? That's where they are. Whereas the Nordics are like a benevolent, they go around and I would have preferred that one, bro. Be freaking blonde and perfect and shit. Yeah, and be like 350 years old looking like you're 20, dude. That's crazy. Harvesting the power of the sun. Yeah, so really that's just you know, human greed dog kind of a sidebar. Honestly, that's probably what needs to get out of the human society and everyone's minds is like the greed factor, and just like then you wouldn't have any problems with different countries, different races. But and I think that's someone I was again, another working theory is that the reason aliens haven't revealed themselves or we're getting close to that point, and it's kind of what's happening with the geopolitical landscape as well, is these alien races, allegedly part of this galactic federation, which is their they're waiting to end to to bring humanity to federation. The reason we're not in it is because we're still very primal in the sense monkeys, in the sense that there's war and stuff like that. Like these, you know, these uh races, let's say it's not like they have countries and borders, it's just like this is our planet. Yeah, you know what I mean? So, and now with this whole push for globalization and one basically world government, and like dang, that's why a lot of people are thinking like this is leading up to us, you know, finally joining the Galactic Federation, which is crazy. One world government, yeah. I don't know how I feel about that. Does that mean we all get free money? Like like uh monthly living costs uh was that EBT? Yeah, exactly. But like I don't I don't know if it's supposed to be a governed globe. No, no, no. It's supposed to be just like everyone is free. Yeah, we all have like like let's go back to the temple. Communism, but it works. Impossible when you talk about greed. Yeah, you know, you need to get rid of the human greed factor or any of this shit that's ever gonna change. Yeah, because someone who tastes power wants more of it. Have you ever seen the Sith Lord? Mm-hmm. Yeah, like dark side he chose. The only way that you can get the fucking dark side of the force and start shocking people with electricity. A lot of the but he's just ignoring me. I'm just listening. I'm just like, go go off, go off, king. One of the other interesting things, uh, I know I just talked about the zoo paradox, which is like they're all observing us, that's why they haven't interacted with us. The other big one that people argue against it, like Elon Musk actually is a big one of this, because he's obviously loves this stuff, but he still doesn't believe that there's uh extraterrestrial civilizations because he's like, Why haven't they visited? Same with the other Grassy Tyson. He's like, Why have we never well they have? Yeah, but like why don't we see it? And then obviously it's like, well, the government's keeping it a secret. As smart as you guys are, you're not privy to that information yet. Yeah, you're not exactly like but keep building your rockets, keep making Tesla. You don't you don't get to see the aliens yet? The the theory that they go off, and the the counter to that theory is called the Fermi paradox. I don't know if you've heard of that, but it's just like there's exactly more stars than there are grains of sand on the earth, like you said. So statistically, life should be everywhere. So where is everybody? There's three possible recording? Yeah, there's three possible answers. One, we're alone, which I think is highly unlikely. Nah. Two is they're hiding. Or three, they're already here. So they're already here is kind of like where it seems to be heading with all these uh, you know, UAP declassified stuff that we're seeing. And then the other one they're hiding is an interesting one because the way they the way these guys explain it is like if let's assume that some of these, not all these alien civilizations are benevolent. Maybe they're they're conquerors, they go from planet to planet, absorbing, you know, the planet's resources, whatever. Really? I was just about to say, like, it sounds that these other species, or at least from the two that you mentioned, are a little bit they're just chill. That seems like to be 90%, but they're have they like some of the like the say like the reptilians, which is like that whole theory that some stars all of the Hollywood elites are actually secretly reptilians that run this government. So and that goes back to the Epstein files. That's why they're quote unquote cannibals and eating children. It's because they're fucking reptiles. We're getting into the case. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. But anyway, the other the re what I was going what I was getting at there is that there are other civilizations, but they're not letting themselves be known because then if you broadcast your location, then let's say an aggressive dot, like a conquering alien species, will then come and take over your planet. So everyone's hiding, like they're all there, but no one's revealing themselves. Because to reveal yourself would put your planet at risk. It's like when you put on the one ring. Yeah. The wraiths can find you, yeah. All of the people in the shadow realm can see you. Crazy stuff. Crazy stuff. Lord of the Rings reference during an alien episode. That's wild. Yo, I just I I go out there. I think of these things. Maybe that's how Lord of the Rings was made by Cole Keen. I got some more stuff here that's a little bit more like uh conspiracy theories, not just aliens. We got a lot of things. Yeah, this is this is now more conspiracy theories. Is there anything else you want to like kind of touch on in terms of the aliens? How do you feel about all these files being released? Oh, dude, Project Bluebeam. Asks me a question. A D D.

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No, go ahead, go ahead. No, Project Bluebeam. We didn't we didn't talk about it. You know what that is, right? Remind me. So the the ultimate conspiracy among conspiracies is Project Bluebeam. That all of this it's it's coming. Yes. This is everything we're seeing the UAP files, all this stuff leading up to this revelation that we're not alone in the universe, there are aliens. All staged. It's all done by the most the shadow government that's controlling the planet. Yes. They're going to use our the current technology that we have, AI and holograms, whatever, to stage a fake alien invasion. Use that's what this is the whole project, Bluebeam, to then unify the planet under one government. Government. Yeah. And they they say that's going to be done by 2030. That's the theory. There's a there's a whole document that was written by apparently the Illuminati in like the 1800s that plans this out over the next 200 years, how they are going to kind of convince everyone to unify under one rule, which will be ruled by this class of super elites that'll run the planet. And it's going to be under the guise that we're we need to unify as a species to like fight back the alien threat. That's not real. It's just uh holograms and that would only coincide with the idea that we're alone in the universe. Exactly. That yeah, exactly. Which I find hard to believe. Yeah, me too. I don't think that's a real thing, but that is like there's a lot of people that I remember this idea. I remember when I look like look at these UAP files being released on like TikTok and Instagram, and I look at the comments, a lot of people are like, Project Bluebeam, Project Bluebeam, none of this is real. They're just like prepping us. It's a very nihilistic form of viewing the world, right? Like you just you just like you're 30 years old, you have so many, so much time left in your physical body, let's say, and then you just decide that nothing matters. Yeah, it's definition of nihilism. It's crazy. I could crazy I could not live like that. Uh I like to put I prefer that like one thing matters, and that's gains. You gotta, yeah. I'm just kidding. Um, I do since we're talking about like these th these uh different ideas still, um, have you heard I I don't remember the name of it, but it's the idea that the others or the extraterrestrials are they're like kind of growing us. And as a species, or yeah, they're they're growing us because when we pass, our souls have been like you know how I get it, I get it, yeah, yeah. How a melon or a fruit is takes time to get ripe. Yeah. So like us having lived that life 60, 70, 80, 100 years, our soul then becomes ripe enough for them to harvest and use in a certain form, I don't know what for, energy-wise and whatnot. And on top of this, so let's say that would be a very shitty way, because like imagine you die, and then your your soul goes and they're like, Oh, we're just gonna use you know, kind of thing forever. Damn. Um, I hope that's not the case. But uh, some Russian scientists obviously, this whole episode, you're just like listening with a thousand grains of salt. Yeah, we're just talking about as many grains of salt as there are seeds in the stars. Seeds in the stars, bro. Bro, butchered that grains of sand. I don't know, dude. Greaches, bro, gee, on this planet. I've got sometimes you gotta kill two bushes with one bird, you know what I'm saying? And on that note, we'll see you guys in the next one. No, no, no. I was gonna say, you're like, I'm just gonna go. I didn't even finish my fucking kick. The you're making me lose what I was saying, bro. The Russian scientist with the soul happened. Apparently, rough some Russian scientist figured out where your soul goes after you die. I heard about this. And apparently, multiple times they went to the same location, like a billion light years away. Yeah. Which I I can't even begin to fathom how you even track or find that out. If I remember correctly, he did some kind of thing with like technology. He used like a computer to like trace like a DNA signature or something like that. Zeros and ones at the end of the day. Yeah, like at the end of the day, it's yeah, we're just electrical, we're just like an organic machine, right? It's electric, we're electricity at the end of the day, is that what operates us. So he kind of figured a way to track your electric signal. And then when people die, yeah, he did this with multiple people, and they, yeah, it was like a billion light years away. And he's like, We're that's where we're going back home, which is really interesting. There was another guy, just to touch on that, who was like a remote viewer who came out and talked about this. He worked in that uh Project Stargate, which is what I mentioned earlier, where they use remote viewers to find stuff like the aliens, but they also were using it to find like the Ark of the Covenant, the the tomb of Gilgamesh, like all these like ancient things, which is crazy. Sidebar, there's like actual emails from Hillary Clinton asking about the tomb of Gilgamesh, like where it's located, which is nuts. In the Ark of the Covenant. In the Ark of the Covenant, which is crazy. It's like, why would they be asking it? Those things aren't real. Like it's fucking nuts. Thems is real, dog. Thems is real. People have uh protected the Ark of the Covenant. I forget where it was. Uh I don't know if in Israel or some of the things like somewhere, maybe even like northern e northeastern Africa or something like that. I think it's in like Ethiopia or something like that. That's what they the remote viewers said they found it. Somewhere in Africa. It was somewhere in Africa. So there's always been people charged with the duty of guarding it, and they would over time get like cancer and whatnot. And radiation. Yes. What if it's an alien artifact? Well, what else could it be? Yeah. What else would it be? Well, if you're an advanced civilization's uh like high-powered item that we don't know how to use, yeah, and it's like the last one that made it through whatever cataclysmic thing, or it's uh alien uh technology. Yeah, it's crazy. Um, but yeah, that guy, the remote viewer that I was talking about, with the soul thing, relative to what you're saying, he said that he saw like where our souls are supposed to go. And apparently there's like a let's call it a proverbial net that these aliens catches your soul to harvest it. Yeah, but as your soul leaves Earth, instead of going to the destination it's supposed to go, going back to your like soul harvesting thing, it harvests your soul. So it's like imagine you're like, I'm going home when you get sucked in like a vacuum to like power an alien shit. Like that freaking sucks. That freaking sucks up. I'm gonna reincarnate as a as a nuclear reaction. As a fuel source, as a fuel source. Shit's crazy. Um you, Eisenhower, you fucking have the opportunity to choose the right people. I mean, how true is that? Who knows? But like, I believe it. Really interesting. It's so that's a scientific fact. There's so many interesting and cool you can like really go into like a dark, like a deep, deep dive on this stuff. And it's like the more you look into it, the more it becomes less or more difficult to deny that there's something unexplainable. One thing that you told me about, that you show me about, you can talk about it, was the P57s and the P47s and P52s or something like that. Thank you, Matt. No worries. Uh yeah, there's actually one of the scientists she was who like she disappeared committed to recently. Yeah, uh, obviously you t you take whatever you see online with like you can make your own come your make your own conclusions, right? But uh she was saying that there's two forms of ultra-terrestrial, so it's not extraterrestrial, it's actually ultra-terrestrial, the proper term, and which means they're from here. Yes, but they're like humans from the future, and they've essentially and they've come back, and apparently those grays are just their robots, drones, or drones yeah, that's what a lot of theories say. Like uh, I was listening to something earlier, like yesterday, maybe, and it was like uh this guy who's uh again a scientist who's like on his deathbed who worked for Area 51, and he's basically like, Yeah, these are all drones, and the UAPs also, the reason there's so many different ones the Grays or the uh um the craft, the UAPs both. Okay, the Grays themselves are like they're they're like machines, they're like drones, right? Because thing, but if you're in advanced civilization, why would you send your own species into dangerous terrain when you can have like we're basically doing that right now? Yeah, mechs. We're getting robots we're getting to the point where robots are gonna be a thing. Uh Elon's plan to colonize Mars, there's no humans, he's gonna go build it with a bunch of Tesla bots, like because they can survive hazardous conditions, they can work forever. Exactly. Um, anyway, but uh what he's so cute, man. What I was uh what I was getting at, and I lost my frame of thought here. Well, what I was getting. Yeah, that that I interrupted. Yeah, sorry, go ahead. Talk about the P57. Yeah, there's 47. P47 and P52. Essentially, these people these are us, but they're like around 50,000 years in the future. Absolutely. Essentially, yeah, I think P47 is 47,000 years and P52 is 52,000 years. Precisely, and they're like, I don't know, coming back in the past, I guess. Yeah. Well, the I think what the theory was and like trying to I don't know what they're trying to do, warn us of something. I think it's like they've come to like prevent a cataclysmic event. Because I watched the video you sent me, and the girl was saying, like, essentially, both these us from the from you know, that's so 50 more in the future. What is life like then? Are people ripping halo or what they are halo? They are halo. I think the the theory that she was saying, or of the facts, I guess, or whatever you want to call it, was that at some point in the future, apparently relatively near future, there's a cataclysmic event that drives that wipes out like 90% of the population, and basically some people survivors go underground, and that's one branch, the P 57s. Say or P52s, and somehow the people on the surface survive, and that's the other race, which is the P uh 37s. Uh-huh. So it's like both of them is just the humans evolving over 50,000 years, the ones that lived underground and the ones that lived above ground. So we got mans on the ground. So I got mans in the ground, yeah. Currently, is there in the future? And it explains why the photos of the two, like the P57s, I'm I don't know if you've seen them, but they look like mutated humans. Mall people. Yeah, they have like their eyes aren't like the big black ones, like you see the grays. They have pupils, they're just like large, they're frail, they're skinny, and they're extremely white because if you live underground for 50,000 years, you have no sun, right? Well, what about you? You've been living above ground hell. Yeah, I could use a 10. I could use a 10 for sure. If we had some freaking sun. No, they're like white like your socks, though. Yeah, if they had some sun here, maybe I'd hey, we got our first sunny day in the clouds. That's it. So I was gonna say it lasted about three hours. Gotta put our sweats back on. Um, I feel like we I have a bunch of other stuff here that's other conspiracies. I feel like we save this for another episode because there's a lot we can cover here, like Mandela. Part two, if you will. Yeah, Bigfoot, the Bream of the Triangle, Denver Amber Airport. Bigfoot. Yeah. Anyway, did you see that guy that on IG I'm gonna send it to you? He claims to have like a frozen Bigfoot in his freezer and he has it chopped up. The head. It looks like it looks like it's just a special buffalo. Yeah, I saw I saw that recently on Instagram. Yeah, apparently he claims he's got the head and like the rest of the bottom. Yeah, and he's just like there with black gloves on with the guy just like go out and kill it and then like dismember it. It's fake, bro. Yeah, that's gotta be fake for sure. There was um, but yeah, I'm down to do that. We could totally continue this another time. This is and we could even we could even come back to this after the supposed, you know, revealing in the summertime. Was it you say July? Yes, it was supposed to be July. I think it's like June 26th or July 26th. He's there's a date that's been set. Do you know that website where I forget what it's called, but it accurately has everything clock? Oh no, the um future timeline. That one, yeah. What does it say for 2027? That is interesting. I'm gonna cut up this was the year of uh disclosure, right? 26. Does it say 2027's the year, the age of of contact or whatever? Yeah. 21st century, right? That makes sense. And and a lot of the shit that's been uh in the list is been like really accurate, yeah. So we're at let's say 2025 to 2028. So these are some of the ones. Technical, all television is becoming internet-based. Facts. Uh yeah. The United States is becoming more authoritarian. Interesting. I can kind of see that. Yes. Um, I'm just looking at the Martian Moon exploration probe collects and returns samples. I think they're already doing that right now. 2026-27, the world's first trillionaire. Very interesting. Elon Musk or someone of the first crewed flight of NASA's Orion spacecraft. Um did that happen? It was it called Orion. No, it wasn't called Orion. It was called uh Artemis. But I guess that's I guess that's the next one. Did Italy host Grand Theft Auto 6 is holding up. Yo! That was updated. That's hilarious. Um that's so funny. Yo, we're talking about aliens before GTA 6 came out. Yeah, I don't know if 2027. Yeah, it doesn't say here. Does it even mention aliens? No, I think it's based on there's a mission to Venus in 2028-31. Ooh, Project Veritas. Interesting. Ooh, 2028, China's economy surpasses that of the US. Facts. That's about to happen. Launch of the Comet Interceptor. I guess they want to make an interceptor to stop commons. The European extremely large telescope is operational. That's what they name it. The extremely large telescope. There's no way. Romania adopts the Euro, buddy. 2029. Let's go. Bruh. Anyway, this is a cool site. If you guys ever want to check it out, it's called future timeline.net, and it even goes into like the far future, like 2100, 2200. It's really, really fun. Well, even further. Yeah, I think it goes into like the year like 3000 or something. Yeah, it's and it just uses trends and technology and and economy and global political. Probably historical data as well from the past. Yeah. But like a lot of it is very accurate. So, anyways. Anyway, the truth is out there. And we are not alone. Yeah. You decide your truth. Yeah. Take this, take from it what you will. We're just a bunch of bros on a couch drinking bubbly, talking about aliens. Um, but it's very interesting, and like more and more information coming out makes you just mind blasting. Or it is mind blasting. Mind blasting. Oh. He can figure out what the accent that was. Anyways, we're gonna continue this, I think, in a part two, because there's a lot to cover, especially if we go into other cool conspiracies, like we were saying, cryptids, for example, like Bigfoot and then the Lochness monster and all that stuff. Those are really cool to talk about. Government monster. Let's talk. We can talk about the frickin' the shadow government, the Illuminati. There's so many Bohemian groves, there's so many cool things. We can talk about how jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams. Ooh, catch that in the next episode. Anyways, I think that's it for today, guys. What can we talk about next week? Back to like health and fitness. Yeah, I think we just do like every other one is like a fun one or something. I don't know. We'll play it by air. Yeah, we're next one. We're gonna be at a round table and we're gonna just have to. The next one's gonna be like a full podcast studio with like neon lights between settings. We should. I'm down. I'm getting that sign. I have a I have a spare room with a bunch of boxes in it. But once that's over. And we'll just have like the lights permanently set up. Yeah, we can turn that in. And all these like necks in the background. And then maybe maybe we'll just put some dumbbells on the table so it's still in theme. Yes. You know what I mean? Yes, and we'll just rip random bicep curls in between. So it's between sets. Yes. We figured it out. See? So you have to start something in order to figure it out. We've made some progress. Anyways, that's it. If you like this episode, yeah, let us know. Yeah, don't let us know. Share it. Share it with people. Yes. Let them develop their word out there. And uh, yeah, let's uh we'll see you guys in the next one. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay. Bye. That's gonna how we're sign. That's gonna be how we sign up from now on. That was a fun one, man. I really enjoyed that.