BREAKING NEWS: Jessi Draper's Shocking Divorce Revelations & More Developing MomTok Drama

WILL MOMTOK SURVIVE THIS. We are back in the news room to breakdown all the unfolding Secret Lives of Mormon Wives drama! We deep dive potential SLOMW Spin-offs, big MomTok moves and Jessi Draper’s shocking tell-all on Call Her Daddy including revelations of her messy divorce from Jordan Ngatikaura.

Mallory and Jackie, signing off....for now. 

Catch you on the next Kiki 💋

{apologies for Jackie’s whack audio on this ep 😬}

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:10

Is that not it?

SPEAKER_01 0:11

We did a truck back again. But don't worry about it. We'll just do something different every time. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Oh, you're like that. Right, you're right, you're not.

unknown 0:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

You couldn't tell by that intro. Yeah, we got breaking news. We got breaking news. Hey Mal. Hey Jack. I'm one of these days I'm gonna come to the mic, hair and makeup done, but the last today. Today's not that day. Today that day.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Maybe in Milan, once we have had all day to lay around and shop and drink, you know. Maybe then.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

If we ever get there, god willing. If we ever get there, I know if there's not a war with Milan, but you now and then fingers crossed. Ooh, we should do each other's makeup. How about that? How about that? How about them out? I don't know how you like them out. All right. Right now, there isn't a war with Milan, but there is a war between Jesse and what the fuck's your name? Jordan. Jordan. Yeah. I was getting drunk. I'm gonna try to say their last name, but the only thing that comes to mind is Nagasaki, which I don't think is what it is. Relevant for the Thomas. It is, it is. So for our listener, which is our husband for Jackie, not even mine, just Jackie's.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

Just Jackie's, because mine doesn't listen.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

You know, if you weren't aware, which you probably aren't, Jesse did this out. Jesse went on, call her daddy today.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

And for the for our listener who may not know, as my husband didn't, he said, Who's daddy? Why are we calling her daddy?

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Men don't know about the biggest podcast in the world next to Joe Rogan. I don't have time to explain this, but you're gonna daddy, first of all. Truly. I mean, what are you doing? Get in the game, get in the game. Women support women. The founding mother. Yeah, 100%. We're founding farter. Founding farter. Nice. I like it. Yeah. Thank you. We yeah, Jesse was on Call Her Daddy today. We are we are live. We are live.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

We're coming from the streets. We both listened to it immediately upon waking. Well, maybe not Jackie, because it wasn't up yet for you. But as soon as I woke up, I listened.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

It came on at 10 a.m. on the dot. I was like, I thought it's gonna come on at 5 a.m. US tonight. And on the dot it popped up. Amazon. I was on it. Amazing.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

So she had some she seemed mostly okay, which was you know disturbing in and of itself.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

She so they did uh the polar batty girl, Alex something. She Cooper, right? Alex Cooper, yes. There we go. I've never listened to this podcast before in my life. No, me neither. I'm not gonna act like I'm a huge fan. But Alex Cooper like did a little bit before and was just like, we filmed this podcast last Friday. So like I don't know what news broke out over the weekend, but like if we're not talking about it, it's because it didn't happen yet when we recorded. So that's where to where they're jumping along with. Yeah, and they open with uh Dakota and and Taylor Frankie Paul of it all, which I thought her answers there were very good. She's her friend, she knows she's come a long way and she had a lot of struggles. It's not okay what she did, yada yada yada. I thought she she answered it well. She I mean Jesse's fantastic, she's built for this. Yeah, she's she is she's great. They basically had to acknowledge the you know, talk about the TFP and Dakota and the bachelorette and everything that just happened. And they had booked this interview before any of that happened. So this was not like her coming out to talk about that. This was her coming out and talking about her life, and not even from what I got to talk about her divorce, like that also wasn't a surprise. I don't know. I don't know. Uh there were a few things where I was like, okay, girl, sure.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

Like she kept well, we'll get into it, but yeah, that was one of the things where I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Yeah, it was like I was just coming out here and talking about my life and my hairline, and then all of this stuff happened, and I just like to none of this stuff had happened.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

Like, I don't think she would have been on Call Her Daddy. I think like she booked it by saying, Look, I'm gonna announce my divorce on the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Yep, you know, yep. And then Jordan beat her to it, which is what we find out that which is exactly what these men do. Well, yeah, exactly. I mean, the news is that uh Jordan's as much of a monster as we thought he was. 100%. Even more, even more. He uh she said, and I love this, he loved the lifestyle I provided, but wanted to be the man. Like he wanted to spend her money, but he did not like her being famous, which is she said is very common in Utah. I'm like, yes, we've seen it. This is what we've been saying the past four seasons that we're watching it unfold, we're watching what happens live. I mean, we have to remember like these men and women, they've been indoctrinated by this church, by this religion, yes, you know, generations of this right, this you know, stereotypical gender norm than the man. And so, like, I get it. And that's what's cool about the show is it's breaking all that, and they're able to see them all just try to navigate it, and some much better than theirs.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

And Jordan so well that like a year ago, so we're three years now into Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. He has not worked, he does not care for the kids. She does the show, has her hair care stuff, she's bringing in all the money, and he says, I think I prefer more traditional gender roles. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Well, why don't you traditionally go out and get a fucking job? That's traditionally how that works. Like, are you serious right now, bro? Traditionally, suck these in the mouth, yeah. Traditionally, suck it. Okay, yeah. I mean that. I that was infuriating, and wanting her to go to Pilates. Oh, I mean, that would have been it for me. I would have had my bag packed and I would have been out the door. Go to Braylock. Love is blind. I mean, what a trendsetter. Because apparently, this is the dick hole thing to do to your partner is to get on their asses to go to Pilates.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Oh my god, I cannot buck off all the way.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

But yeah, they took Michael Back Dakota and Taylor. You're right, she gives perfect answers and is just like, this was really hard. Taylor's my friend, like she's actually my real life friend, and I know she has a lot of issues. I thought it was interesting. She was kind of going down some line items that we had pretty much called, but she said the so the cast requested to pause filming when Dakota filed the charges before the video came on. Yay. She she was praising the producers and Hulu and Zin, they're handling things great, they are doing what we want. She said they all knew that a video existed when the show started in 2023, but they had never seen this video until we thought of it. No, she also said that well, I think that that like filming paused and then picked back up and then paused again after the video.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Yeah. And and she said also that, and and she I thought this was really honest. She's like, we didn't want to be on camera saying who knows what when we're just learning this information for the first time, which like I totally agree. Totally reasonable thing, and that's like looking out for your friend, but also looking out for yourself because you don't know what the backlash is gonna be. You don't want to come like a full support of her and then everyone freaks out on you, you know.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Yeah, and I think this is different than this whole week is giving Vanderpump rules, you know, the greatest season of all smile of all. And it's giving that vibe, it's giving that energy, which is why we're you know in the studio for breaking news. And but it's different because that was an affair with adults, and this is domestic violence involving children. These are very different stakes. So I'm for them to be like, we are not, we do not want to be on camera during this while we navigate this, is very different than like Vanderpump Rolls being like roll 'em. Right. Exactly. Well, I also think that it's a different.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

They did they had never treated, I don't think production ever treated, and I maybe I maybe they weren't worthy of being treated like adults on Vanderpump Rolls. You know, I very much think that Bravo's like, you will do what we say when we say, and like if you ever want to be on the show again, you will film right now. And this feels like a different vibe to me.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

I think Bravo is a different beast than Hulu. I think Fulu Bravo is is like the minor leap compared to Hulu. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Yeah, I think so too. I think so too. Yeah. Yeah. But she so then she's talking, you know, they agreed last week that they were getting divorced and they would like announce it together, and then he filed and said he didn't know it would become public. Like bullshit, you know, somebody's always at that courthouse checking those kind of things, you know.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

Well, she said, so she's away right now. So I'm assuming this film's in LA. Caller Daddy. So she's in LA. She was or she was out when this filmed on Friday, and he did this purposely when she was out of town. And he said it was to get his story out before she did. Like, yes, she said that's what he said. He wanted to get it out. He wanted to get it, he wanted to get his narrative out and his story out before she did. Because he knew it was coming. She basically told him, like, I'm gonna file.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Yeah, and then he files with the reason being cheating instead of irreconcilable differences uh in an effort to try to get more money or something from her.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

Yeah. When she's like cheating, you know, two kisses uh two years ago, everything's on camera, everything's been proven. I didn't sleep with him. Like, come on. Right. Yeah, no, he's just such a little troll bitch. He is such yeah, and she said she didn't find out about the divorce until she saw it on TMZ. I mean, or they texted her. TMZ texted her and was like, hey, yeah, you want to comment? Like divorced, and she was like, Oh, what? Mm-hmm. She I thought it was funny also that she was like, all the fans are begging for less dad talk, and like, I agree, we all agree. Like, totally, yes. They're our husband, what are we gonna do? They have to put it on the camera. I know, and she's like, Yeah, they don't have to be on camera. She's like, they want to show our lives. I'm like, I I don't know though. I think that's a hulu choice to do all of this.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

They could tone it down, and I mean, part of it is it's enraging, and you watch it because it's enraging, you know, like there's part of it.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

I mean, she was asked, Will mom talk survive this? And she said, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the next season of Real Housewives and Mormon Wives like called it on our laptop. Right, right. Of whatever the show is that we're so obsessed with. We have to get to breaking news, but we don't know. The long flame all right it is, it's too long, it's too long. I'm just gonna call it Mormon Wives, but what the next season of Mormon Wives Lomento. Other breaking news. So apparently, allegedly, there is going to be a spin-off based in California, yeah, centered around Jen Affleck, Jennifer Benefer Affleck, and Jennifer Bennifer. Which again is not anything the fans asked for. No one asked for it. Nobody for it. Nobody asked for it. This is not the people we want. Spinoff uh uh. So she's like gotta be the worst choice for a spinoff. I mean, Michaela would be the most boring choice to do a spinoff of well. Michaela would just be sad and depressing, but yeah. Very sad and depressing. Who also breaking news keeps posting all this stuff this weekend that she's moved to LA. So I don't know who she will be part of. Moved to no, she moved to Southern California. Someone, but she moved to California. I can't tell if it's with her husband or without her husband. We don't know. Yeah, the TikToks are very vague. She is very vague to the website. And Whitney Levitt is in based moved to New York. So I I don't know. I don't know where her show goes. And it the the spin-off of Jen, which was just announced yesterday, unofficially, I guess, makes me think they are trying to start their own real housewife like franchise. Real housewife megaverse. Real Mormon Real Mormonse. Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, we don't want that. No, this is not it's not really sustainable. No. And yeah, I I don't think uh until Jen leaves Sack, I don't want to hear much from her. You know what I mean? Like, I uh Yeah, I don't know. So I mean I guess that the future of Smom talk. Well, I think we buried the lead here though, because we have yet to talk about his escorts. Oh, we I mean, how did we track to the monster? I know ourselves podcast. We about the facts. If here they are, we got the facts, yeah. We don't listen to that podcast, listen to our summary of that podcast. Our podcast summarizing that podcast. But apparently, while she was pregnant or recently had her baby, he was with escorts and she has receipts and things to prove it.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Text from the escorts.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Yeah, she she said it she found out after season one aired when they were doing press for season one that she got receipts and proof and was contacted by escort services that he was using their money to and what was then once he stopped working, her money for all these escort services. And he basically like manipulated her and gaslit her into being like, That's all fake. Like they're just coming after us because you're famous now. Like, none of that is true. Don't worry about it. And she just like looked aside, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

And it was like a time when he was in Texas and it was before filming had happened, so nobody asked who she was or where he would be or anything, and so it was like it's pretty solid evidence.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Yeah, and then she said word on the street was too that she also got that he attended a bunch of swinger parties. Oh legend. God, I know, and I'm assuming he those were like escort-driven too, because there is no way he anybody is having an orgy with that troll for free. I mean, um, they won't go, but she was like, I kind of feel bad that like everyone on the internet is dragging him for like his looks as geeks should be, right? Right, he drags. I know, I know.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Also, almost as disgusting as the orgies and the escorts is that he is on cameo. Ugh. Vomin. Who is paying this man for a cameo? My god, what is he charging? Like three dollars?

SPEAKER_00 14:33

What fuck him? What the name? Jordan Nagasaki. Yes, Jordan Real Housewives of Mormon Wives. Oh, I got him, got him, got him, got him. He is charging okay, wait, that's in Polish swathy. So hold on. I have to see it's a translation. I have to order this how much? 40 US dollars. Or zero 250 Polish swathy. Oh my the inflation is crazy. I tell you, this war with Iran is dry cheap. That's a lot for him. I think let's see, is Jax Taylor still on there? I think Jax Taylor's is the side. I know it's Jax Taylor, he is 600 and Zwatdy, which is probably like$170 for Jack Taylor. I've met I've bought some cameos. I think the one that we that I got from Carl Radke was like at the height of his pub popularity, it was like under$100.$40. For$40, you can get Jordan Nagasaki to his music the whole shit. Oh my god. We should not fund that man. Do that to not give that man a job. How I would pay$40 for him to be like, I am a disgusting little troll. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Maybe that we pay all these idiots to drag themselves. Right, right, yeah. I'll pay you to talk about what an idiot you are. I love it. I love it. Yeah. But yeah, he he's a and she goes into, I mean, this part was like really sad, but about all the emotional abuse and yeah, how he so basically she was in an emotionally abusive marriage and then got out of that marriage, and then done is like he came right then and there. She met him, and she was like, I just thought he was going to be the one that saved me, and I felt so safe and secure with him. And a night on a righty pony. Yeah. She's like, I got right back into the same cycle. Yeah. Riding in on one of Lisa Vanderpump's mini horses. Oh, also, I thought it was disgusting that he told her she could sleep in the guest room and that he made her leave her house that she is paying for. And she, I mean, this is like exactly what happened with Jackson Brittany. Another man making the woman who pays for everything leave the house and live somewhere. Wiles Wild. This infuriated me. So, like at this point in time, she was like, He does not work, he does not bring in a dime. I pay for everything. No, so any money he's spending is my money.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

And they have a nanny, so he's not even doing child care.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

He's not even doing child care. And he said to Herbert, she could stay in the house and but she could sleep in the guest room. She was like, No, no, I'll sleep at the hotel. And the caller dad, Alice Cooper, was like, Where are your kids? And she was like, Well, they're at the house with Jordan. She's like, I wanted to have them at the hotel, but Jordan was like, No, we can't have them at the like hotel with you. Like, they have to stay at the house. So Jordan's in the fucking castle with the kid, and she's in the fucking hotel, and she is paying for all of it. I just don't understand why I would call the police and be like, get him out of here. This is my house that I pay for. Because she's still, you said this in the beginning, where like she seemed really fine during this podcast, and that's what was very alarming. Like she's saying all the right things of like, I'm here, happy, I'm done, and he did all these terrible things to me, and now I'm free. But like she's still in it. Like she still has in it. Yeah, I think she's still in it. I mean, she was telling us how he like breaks into her phone, he would spy on all her messages, he spies on the turn on the camera. So that's why she was like, I want to leave the house. That's a major Jax Taylor move, too. Major Jax Taylor move. And she said, even if I stayed in the house, he would be spying on me. Like, I don't feel safe there. So that's also why I'm in the hotel. Yeah. What really fucked me up was when she was talking about the kid. And she was like, We're going to file for 50-50. And she was like, I know, you know, those kids know how much I provide for them and they know I'm their mama. And, you know, I know like they love me. Because right now he, as she was filming this, he was at home with the kids, yeah, doing telling them God knows what. Because Alex Cooper was like, Have you guys told your children yet? And she was like, No, because I'm fucking here. He breaked your news while I'm here. Like, we did not have a chance to tell our children this before this is all over TMZ. And like, if this guy is, you know, manipulative and emotionally abusive in this relationship, I have no doubt he's going to try parental alienation against her and to turn those kids on her. 100%. 100%. She's already left. Like they're small. They're small. So I think they'll be harder. But yeah, like it's awful. He's a monster. And she she said she's lawyering up. She has a team. Like she needs to be ready because he is going to yeah. Yeah. He's going to do bad things. I just know it. I wish I also just wish, like, in a situation like this where you have enough money and but it's a contentious divorce, they could do something akin to like the second you file, the house goes on the market. Yeah. Because like it's not fair. This is none of this is fair. You know, now it's like a bargaining chip for him. This is like there was somebody on the Real Housewives of Atlanta who was separated from her husband, and the judge allowed him to live in the basement. And it was like, this is a nightmare. This is terrible for both parties and the child. The dad's just doing this to be a dick. Like, make them sell the house and move on. Even before the divorce is settled. Just sell the house, we'll put the money in escrow. You guys rent until divorce is settled.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

You know?

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Yeah. I mean, she said they're going to sell the house. Like they're going to end up on the market. Well, but she said he doesn't want to.

unknown 20:04

Of course not.

SPEAKER_00 20:06

But that's what I mean. So that's another thing. That's another bargaining chip, though. Right. You know? He's going to try to get the house so that he can then sell it. Definitely. You're making me think of Jaxtail. Like the goal of these men to break up with these women and make them leave their family home. Yep. And take their child out of that home. Yeah. And for them to just fucking stay like Yeah. It's lock them all away. Put them all in ice. Lock 100%. Like there has to be some recourse where it's like you've you're the most difficult party, so you get the house. That's outrageous. You get to live in the house until this is all settled. I mean, you know how long these divorces can take. Like it's crazy to me. And she what keeps paying the mortgage? Yeah, it's crazy. I was just gonna talk about like Jordan and Dakota because she had said in the beginning when she was talking about the TFP of it all, that like Alice Cooper was like, So do you think someone sold that video to Tancy? And she was like, Yeah, and she was like, Do you think Dakota sold it? She was like, Right. Right, right. And and then she was saying how Jordan and Dakota, she was like, Dakota was basically like the other woman in a relationship for the last few years. Like they're that close, they're that close. And she was like, that was like a thing that was super hard the last year or two, that I had to navigate Dakota being in my house all the fucking time and talking to him when like Taylor is my friend. And she said, Jordan and him have been in constant communication through all of this, and there's a part of me that wonders, like I think Dakota is absolutely like evil as well. But Dakota comes off as like stupid evil, right? Jordan comes off as like Utah evil, right? Yeah, like smart evil. And there's a part of me that wonders if Jordan is almost somewhat by rising or something. Yeah, yeah, if some of the bullshit Dakota's been doing. I was wondering when she was saying that, like, remember Chase was way more upset with Jordan about like telling the Jesse about Dakota hooking up with the woman at Bander Pump Villa. He was like, Chase was way more upset about that than Dakota was. I wonder if that was a coordinated thing of like, okay, you go back and leak this and I'll act like I'm upset about it, you know, because I want Taylor to find out and flip out. Yeah, Chase was fucking pissed. I mean, you you've now got me on the Chase train, I will say. Right? Have you seen this? His liberal videos. I'm telling you. Yeah. I'm here for it. I'm here for it. You got a you got a white, a decent looking white man talking about like liberal causes. You say no more. Say no more. Say no more. Here for Chase. But yeah, I don't know. I I I see Jordan and Dakota as like one vehicle now. Yeah, one disgusting inbred vehicle. It's super inbred. Like, I just don't see Dakota being a mistermind. You have the mind for no, I could see Jordan being like, why don't you take that video and sell it to Dan Zone? Yeah, no, I don't think that came out of Dakota's T P brain head. Did you see? I saw this on Instagram today. Dakota was on some fishing show in 2015, some reality fishing show. Yes. Like, of course, this motherfucker was on TV before. How four people song on a fishing show. I see him like hitching and moaning on the phone to Jordan about her like getting on the backstret and it like airing and how like he doesn't want to have to see this. And then Jordan being like, Well, you know, you could you could send a video.

unknown 23:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

That would probably cancel the whole thing.

unknown 23:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Like I don't see Dakota coming up with that. He's not no, no, he's not smart enough.

unknown 23:45

Uh uh. No.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Yeah. And then him threatening her with like coming out with the cheating stuff. Like, yeah. So she he was holding that, the Marciano thing over her head. Right. She knew she had come to him about the escort thing. Right. And it was just all bad. Yeah. All super toxic. It's just so gross, so gross. He's disgusting. I couldn't imagine being, I couldn't imagine. So like he found out about the Marciano thing and then was like, I'm gonna come out with this. And she was like, no, no, no. I don't like I don't want our kids to find out. Like, I don't want people to find out about it. Right. And I can't imagine my husband holding that. Like it's just mind-buckled. I know. To be like, I've only taken this and now use it to manipulate the fuck out of you. As my word. Right. As my cobridge. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And go to Pilates, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

I mean, I cannot. Yeah. Also, like, I think, you know, it's very obvious that in our relationships, you and I are the reactionary ones. I know.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

This is shocking. Breaking news. Breaking news. This is breaking. How positive is number out. Our husbands are of a more, you know, calm temperament, I'll say it, than we are. But I'll tell you, I would pull a Taylor Frankie Paul and like throw a chair at him. I would fucking lose it. I might kill it. I yeah, I would, you know? Yeah. I would lose my shit. Yeah. And they got into that with her about like Alex was like, oh, I love your family so much and like the scenes you need in your family. I'm like, did you have a bad childhood? Like, why are you so bucked up? And she was like, No, I have great childhood, great supportive family. She's like, I've just always had super low self-esteem. And that's where this all comes from. Is like she didn't think she deserved any better. Right. Like she well, she is 30 through all this.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

So she was in high school around, and I've I've said this before, that age group was when they really got social media and there were no guardrails whatsoever. You know, like I really think that age group has been most affected by social media because there was Facebook and Instagram and just unfettered access to it. Everybody had a phone. There was not any of the research or anything that's going on now. Like and it was toxic.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Like, you know, everybody's face tuning, but 15-year-old girls don't understand that. Plus, she's in Utah and apparently they're very obsessed with the looks, although, you know, not for the men, apparently. They can look like a none of them crawled out from under a rock. Yeah. Ripple.

unknown 26:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

Yeah. No, she hit it at the absolute wrong time. And you could tell it destroyed her. And she even said, like, with her placement surgery, because she got a bunch of plastic surgery in the last month, and it made her look different. And like she's so beautiful, but it she was already so beautiful. And she was like, I can finally see watching myself now on last season, how beautiful I was, and like, why did I do more? And she said, when you're in such an out-of-control relationship and environment, she was like, My looks were the only thing I felt like I could control because I could get the surgery and I could manipulate my face and I could control how I looked. And she was like, So that was just my form of control. But now I see like I have to stop.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Yeah. Well, and I think that's another thing is like, imagine your partner using the thing that you are most insecure about against you.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

Like, I cannot imagine that is so devastating. Like if my husband used my biggest insecurities as a weapon against me and told me, you know, go to Pilates or whatever mine is, you know, I don't have any insecure capri pants. You know, but do what? Put on some capris. Put on some capri pants. Yeah. If he was like, why don't you have the legs for capri pants? I would I would be like, we're done. He was like, shave those giant beaver teeth down. Okay. All right. That's all right. We're done. You're not insecure about your beaver teeth, they're beautiful. I've always read teen. Really? What? You have beautiful teeth. That's outrageous. You know the beer song? Beaver one, beaver all. Let's all do the beaver crawl. Beaver two, beaver three. Let's all climb the beaver tree. Okay, I won't continue, but you know, you go.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Where's it going?

SPEAKER_00 28:00

Yeah. I'm sure enough that it doesn't forget. I mean it, yeah. Right, right. If something that's like you've really struggled with your whole life, you've been in therapy and like you had this whole relationship and all these things, and then he's like, go to Pilates and I'm wanting to be the man. It's just like what? Yeah. She tripped and fell into two just total. Total egotistical. Yeah. That's the word I'm looking for. Where you're like obsessed with yourself. Narcissistic. Yeah. But see, I don't even think he's like cool enough to be narcissistic. I think he is the total dork in high school. Yeah, insecure. Yeah, yeah. You're right. You're totally right. Yep. He's just a mean girl. He's a mean girl. That's what he is. He's a mean boy. Yeah. He's a mean boy. He's a mean boy who probably. I mean, I don't know. Now we're really speculating, but I would imagine Jordan's father and Jordan's like home life is something that's like we read stay home and watch children. Who do you? What do you fuck woman? What do you fuck? Look, you're the man of that lot. You're the rape or dad talk. Like you throw her. Like you drive it, you know what I mean? Right. I don't think this is like a positive environment, very open to my fluidity of gender norms. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

This is I saw this thing on Instagram the other day, and it was like it finally like put into words what I've always sort of thought.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

And it was like, oh, if you think boys are easier, like, great, thanks for like what you've done to the world by giving us your boys. Right. Like if you think raising boys is easier, it's because you've done it wrong. You know, like you're not giving them any emotional support. You're not giving them any emotional tools. You're not teaching them how to be a grown, kind, competent adult.

unknown 29:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

You're just saying, oh, you're fine. You're not going to get knocked off because you're a boy. So whatever. You know. And pretending like they don't have emotions. Exactly. Exactly. I think that's the home life that Jordan came from. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, one thing that really got me though was when she said that after they agreed to get divorced, that she went back home drunk and they had sex. I was like, ooh, God. Disgusting. He's like, please, just one last time. I know. And she talked about like, ladies, if you're in this like situation, listen to your bodies. Like my body was telling me for months and months and months. Like anytime you would touch me, try to get intimate with me, like I would physically just like you know, repulse. And she was like, My body knew, right? Like, my body knew you are not safe to like already in this environment. You need to 100%.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Yeah. Totally. I don't know. I think we're mentally on the outside, she's in the right place. Because she even said, like, I once this was announced, like everybody. She's like, I haven't had one person come to me and be like, Oh, Joe, go talk Jordan. Like, you know, if you're so great together, he just said that. Like, everybody is just like, oh my God, thank God. He's such a piece of shit. So she's like, that's making me feel like I'm like made the right decisions. Yeah, of course you made it. Of course you did. No. Yeah. Your favorite. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I also thought it was funny how she kept talking about how the news of him and the escorts was leaked. I'm like, oh yeah, we don't know how it was leaked. Like as if it wasn't entirely her, which I do not begrudge her that. Do it. You leak it, you know. But like it's just floodier because she's like, well, now that it's been leaked, I guess I'll talk about it. Like now that it's been leaked by me, I guess I'll talk about it. Ay, ay, ay. It was something. It was something. Yeah. It was a good interview, though. I thought it was good. Yeah, I thought it was really good. And I don't know. I mean, I feel like I've seen this. Will mom talk survive this? Will mom talk survive this? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think mom talk will come back in the form it was in this season.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

No, it was really toxic and like uh it was like about to hit rock bottom.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

Oh, and she did say about dad talk, which was just like, well, now I think this season, like, we don't really have anything to worry as far as it telling with like the fan thing, like, we don't want dad talk, and it was like, well, they all in our lives, and it's like, no, they're not down. I've seen especially if Jen's gone, like, because Zach's gone, Zach talk. She's divorced. If Michaela left Jace, hopefully, fingers crossed. I mean, if Dakota, hopefully, completely and and Taylor are the picture, like, we could just be done with the dad talk of it all.

SPEAKER_01 32:11

I did not realize that Michaela got pregnant at 16.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

That is so disgusting. He was 21. He's a pedal owl. He's a pedal predator and a pedal owl. Yep. Yep. Like no wonder she can't have sex with you and 100% doesn't feel comfortable, and it body is like, you know, uh sickly. Like again, listen to your body. Your body is saying you're still popping out babies with your like right abuser. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, how could you ever have your daughter around him? I don't know. I I hope she's dark. Dark God, Penny. It's dark. It's this breaking news is not for the week. Oh, we gotta get out there. I don't know. Hydrating the stuff on the internet comments of things people are posting, uh, people in the cast being like, this isn't it. There's more coming. There's more news about me. There's more things coming down the pipeline before. So I think we're gonna be back at the breaking news studio soon. Well, you we're here for it. Work.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Maybe maybe next time we'll I'll do my hair. Who knows?

SPEAKER_00 33:16

Haven't hasn't happened yet, but you know, feel light, don't lie to our stuff. You know what it is? Is I I do these on the days I work from home. And the days I work from home, this is what I look like. All right, Mal. Thank you for the 100%. Yeah. We're here. We're here for the the the name. Yeah. We're queer. Get used to it. Not on that note. All of it on a kiki catch up from Instagrams and uh and anywhere podcasts are sold. We're there. Yeah. We're gonna stay on top of the real housewives of Mormon Lives until bitter end.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

The bitter end.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

All right, nine o'clocky. Bye-bye. It's a kiki catch up.