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Ep. 21 "Question Everything"
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What happens when the stories we’re told collide with history, competing evidence, political ideology, and the people shaping the narrative?
In Episode 21: Question Everything, Spencer and Cameron examine controversial stories spanning American politics, the Middle East, media credibility, political violence, and the ideological battles shaping the country.
The conversation begins by revisiting the 1967 attack on the USS Liberty, when Israeli forces attacked an American intelligence ship during the Six-Day War, killing 34 Americans and wounding more than 170. Israel maintained that the attack resulted from mistaken identification, while survivors and critics have continued questioning aspects of the official explanation. Spencer and Cameron examine why the USS Liberty has resurfaced in modern conversations surrounding Israel, Zionism, U.S. foreign policy, and anti-Israel sentiment.
From there, they zoom out to examine the larger geopolitical picture across the Middle East, including Israel, Iran, Oman, the Gulf states, regional diplomacy, and efforts to establish new agreements and greater stability throughout the region.
Back in the United States, Spencer and Cameron discuss President Donald Trump’s relationship with the media, his approach to challenging stories he believes are false or misleading, and the extraordinary circumstances surrounding his return to the campaign trail in 2024—including the assassination attempts and threats against his life.
The conversation also examines controversial political streamer Hasan Piker, accusations surrounding antisemitic and inflammatory rhetoric, and the broader question of how political movements respond when extreme or controversial voices gain influence within their coalitions.
Finally, Spencer and Cameron explore the historical relationship between socialism, Marxism, and communism, the rise of democratic socialism in modern American politics, and their argument that socialist ideas have gained increasing influence within parts of the Democratic Party.
Throughout the episode, one theme connects every conversation:
Don’t accept a narrative simply because it confirms what you already believe. Examine the history. Look at the evidence. Consider competing explanations. Question everything.
Topics include:
- The USS Liberty attack and its continuing controversy
- Israel, Iran and the broader Middle East
- Oman, Gulf states and regional diplomacy
- Donald Trump and mainstream media
- Trump’s 2024 campaign and assassination attempts
- Hasan Piker and controversies surrounding political rhetoric
- Antisemitism and political extremism
- Democratic Socialists of America
- Socialism, Marxism and communism
- Media narratives, propaganda and confirmation bias
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Welcome back, everybody, to episode 21 of The Spark Show. We have Cameron Collier, our co-host in the studio today. Good morning, Cameron. Let's tear it up. Tear it up. Oh, and I can't forget to let you know if you haven't chimed in. My name is Spencer Parks, your host of The Spark Show. Today we are going to be going over a little bit of outrage because there seems to be a bit of that floating around the internet. No. Outrage. What is that? No, everyone's just definitely not a bot farm. They're bots, dude. Oh, I mean, I can't tell you how many I've responded to on the social media pages that eventually they get to a phrase and I'm just like, you're a bot. And then I go check out their profile, and it's just like uh it's an old woman hiding behind zero posts and one follower and then follows 5,000 pages. I'm like, I told this one, I was like, oh, now I know you're a bot. And the bot goes, Your mom's a bot. I was just like, oh, you are for sure a bot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, it's the internet's probably just dead and just full of just bots. You know what I mean? And maybe 10% are actually human beings. That's what I'm I'm convinced of it at this point because it's I don't know. There's just a willful ignorance floating around there because I swear, I I just check all these claims. People make crazy sweeping claims, and then I go immediately to your favorite AI chatbot and just look them up, and it's always bullshit. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the sad thing is that you can have a really nice, controversial, subtle, challenging conversation with AI these days more than you can any person over the internet. And let me tell you, the keyboard warriors. And it's not even real. The the keyboard warriors have sort of went to sleep. I think we've seen so much political violence occur that people now have become a little bit more quiet on voicing crazy opinions online as keyboard warriors. They're like, oh my gosh, I'm not gonna say this crazy stuff online anymore because I don't want to die.
SPEAKER_01Maybe. I think it's all engagement bait at the end of the day. It's like these people don't even believe what they're actually posting. It's just let me see how much engagement I can drive so that I can make dollars yellow. That's what it's all about at the end of the day. I don't believe any of it because it's like what is even happening with some of these claims that they make? You're like, okay, for example, I just when I rolled up to the studio here, I, you know, open up whatever it was, maybe it was YouTube or something like that. YouTube Shorts, Sean Ryan podcast has a guy talking about the USS Liberty getting bombed by Israel. Holy shit. Yeah. I mean, and thanks for derailing me. So the guy's talking about, oh, we had our flag was flying, they did flyovers, they bombed us anyways, and we responded, but our response was called off by the higher-ups, and Israel barely even mentioned it. And I'm like, okay, I've heard this floating around the internet so much. What the USS Liberty was bombed, Thomas Massey's talking about all this good stuff. So what do I do? I look it up on Grok and I go, Grok, what is the truth behind the USS Liberty being bombed by Israel? Guess what? This was during the Six-Day War with Egypt, and there was a lot of fog of war going on. There was shelling happening by the Egyptian Navy going off. And the we were absolutely bombed by Israel. All of our I think was 38 crew members were killed, or maybe they were injured. I'm not sure what the exact numbers are. But US service members died, and Israel immediately took blame for it and compensated the killed and injured members and paid for the bombing damages. And I think it was I mean, in today's number is not that significant, but I guess back in 1968, I think it was like four million to those who died, four million to those who were injured, and then eight million for the damages to the ship. And a lot of people are talking about guess what? They they covered it up, they did this, that, and the other. And then it turns out that we've dis declassified this. And then in the declassified files, we find out that we actually have the communications with the pilots that bombed, and there's clear confusion. Because guess what? It's the fog of war, and it was a fast-moving war with Egypt. So it's it's a terrible tragedy, but friendly fire happens in war all the time.
SPEAKER_00I would argue that friendly fire doesn't happen all the time anymore in modern warfare. I think we see less of that because of how much better our communication is. Correct. Radar, communication, everything has progressed and advanced finally in warfare. But back in the pre-90s, I actually had a great uncle who was killed by friendly fire in the Vietnam War. And our families inherited his flag and we have his obituary and things like that. So it's a very real thing that back in the day mistakes were made. Friendly fire occurred. I would say bombing the USS Liberty was probably a pretty big fucking mistake.
SPEAKER_01Of which they took credit immediately, and they said it is our fault. And totally. I mean, America's the greatest, their greatest ally at the time.
SPEAKER_00So it's just like come to find that we were discussing, you found out that Israel paid reparations to the families of the victims. Right? Yep. And so it's for a guy like Sean Riot to be like, holy shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like covered up. I mean, and it's like, what is going on here, dude?
SPEAKER_00No, it's like this doesn't play into the Israel narrative these days.
SPEAKER_01No, exactly, because at the end of the day, what it is, it's all about undermining our relationship with Israel because the Jews are the problem. And it's like, I mean, why do I have to why do I have to sit on this side and support Israel? Because you guys are lying. You're just lying, you're creating a narrative to drive a wedge between one of our greatest military allies. We say jump, they say how high. The woke Reich, as I I've seen the woke Reich, yeah, that's what they're calling them on X, the Marjorie Taylor Greens, the Tucker Carlson, Thomas Massey. See, but this isn't gonna do anything good for the Republicans. So I know geez. So the woke right, they say the reason why Trump went to war with Iran was because of Israel, right? Because that's what they say. Because of Marco Rubio coming out and saying, We had to get involved, and he was on the tarmac, and he says this. And I'm sure there's truth to it, but also at the end of the day, we also know Trump wanted this because how things played out. He's created he first of all, he's isolated the IRGC and the Iranians, he's isolated them from the Russians, from the Chinese, and from the Gulf states. He's now gotten security packs signed between Pakistan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, defense agreements. He's got the UAE that's pulled out of OPEC, which undermines keeping the price of oil high. So, yeah, it's come at a military cost, absolutely. We've lost how many service members? Thir 13 service members, 14? I didn't know what the actual count was. It's significant enough because we don't want any Americans dying. But at the same time, what has it achieved strategically? It's actually taken on these terrorists over the Strait of Hormuz and global trade and all that, and keeping prices low. So you they always say, What are these foreign wars, all this nonsense? Why are we going to war? And it's like we're trying to control the trade routes, and we're trying to stabilize the trade route trade routes, and it's like just leave them alone. Let the terrorists do terrorist things when they want to be terroristic. Sometimes you got to confront these guys. You know, and it's like so interests converge. Israel wants to take them out because of the threat that they pose to Israel because of Hezbollah and Hamas and all that nonsense. And we want to take them out because of global trade interests.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I I get it these days. I think people are sick of the desert wars in the Middle East. Nobody wants to have anything to do with Iraq, with Pakistan, with Iran. We want out. Everyone's sick of it coming out of the first decade of the 2000s. Nobody wants to participate in that anymore. But Israel is an ally to the United States. That means more than just going in and going up against Iran. I mean, we have to work with our military partners, which as an ally to the United States, that is what Israel is. Even though we're converging our military assets and doing all these things, that doesn't mean that we're giving Israel permission to utilize our military. It just means that we're going to be coordinating with Israel as a powerhouse to whatever actions we take in the Middle East. And yeah, that might sound scary, but that still doesn't mean that we can't disagree with Israel.
SPEAKER_01If Trump's controlled by Israel, why did he put the Al-Qaeda leader in charge of Syria? Who wanted that? Turkey. Turkey wanted that guy. And who is diametrically opposed to Israel? Turkey. So if he's controlled by Netanyahu, why would he put that guy into power?
SPEAKER_00It goes to show that Trump is not beholden to Israel or Netanyahu. No, because he's working with the Middle East powers and he's trying to balance the playing board. Exactly. There are other players in the Middle East, other countries that Trump behind the curtains of all this Israel facade is actually working strategically with.
SPEAKER_01We've got Lebanon talking to Israel first time in 30 years. We've got a defense MOU. We know how those work with Hamas to demilitarize, disarm, disarm, and to no longer be a political force in. And why is that? Because Trump blew Iran to hell, and Iran don't have no money to give to Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis. They're running on fumes. So he did two things. He put military pressure on them and wiped out almost half a trillion in military infrastructure of Iran. So made them basically impotent to the rest of the region. And then it's been cyber warfare on their shadow banking. And I mean it just came out in the AP or some shit saying that the Hamas is, or not Hamas, sorry, the IRGC is more afraid of our Treasury Department than our military. Why is that? Because we're taking all their money away.
SPEAKER_00We're finding all their enclaves or all their offshore accounts and everything, and just so do you feel I had a follower bring this up to me after my comments on Iran just keeping the attacks coming, regardless of how much Trump says that we're attacking and bombing Iran. These guys just fire it back up the next day and they're ready to go firing missiles. Do you think that's because a certain country on the Asian continent is backing Iran? Don't want to say their name for that throttle.
SPEAKER_01Yes and no, but I at the end of the day, the reason why Trump backs off is because he backs off because of the requests of the other countries, Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or the any of the Gulf states, because it's just or Oman. So he's working with these other players in the background and he's being respectful of them. And he's basically saying, if these guys open up on me, I'm opening up ten times harder. I'm not doing no tit for tat. You drop two bombs, I drop 200 bombs. That's his that's what he's told, these states. So what does Iran do? They get one of their because they had their mosaic defense, which is turns out may night it's a nightmare, but it's also a nightmare for them because now you get all these hydras that have their own heads. So Central Command might want something to happen, but then some other guy, general or commander, colonel, who knows, just goes, Well, I'm gonna start shooting off missiles. And then Trump goes, Okay, now I'm gonna bomb Bandara Boss with 200 bombs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. What do you think did you hear that all the major news outlets, of course, attacks on Trump are trying to say Trump has exposed us militarily because he's depleted our missile.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Washington Post came out with a story saying that Trump was furious at Camp David at Pete Hegseth because Pete Hegseth misled him on the missiles, and the reason why we keep stopping and starting is because of our missile stock stockpiles are depleted. And then it's immediately refuted by Caroline Levitz saying this never happened. I was at Camp David, he never dressed him down. This is just a bullshit story. How did how can the media get away with something like that? Because sources, bro. Source what? Sources close to the president. They say that shit all the time. It's like I heard from this guy who heard from that guy, who heard from that guy, who was in the office next to that guy who listens to the president.
SPEAKER_00So then these are these journalists are then tied to the deep state assets that are still in the FBI and stuff lingering around that are like still beholden to James Comey and all these fucking puppets.
SPEAKER_01Because they need to feed the demoralization campaign that is the woke Reich. It's so funny because having Remember, Marjorie Taylor Green, the reason why we have inflation is because of Trump's war in Iran. And you're like, bro, Trump's average inflation is still half of that of Joe Biden.
SPEAKER_00It's just wonderful because this administration has become masterclass at refuting false stories and narratives. I mean, since the Russian collusion deal has been refuted and other crazy stories of Trump working with these other nations like China or North Korea and things like that, completely bogus, made up, not true. And I think the media is finally just kind of teasing at some dangling fruit that's left over, throwing out a story here and there, easily refuted. But I think that now what we're seeing, if you don't mind me transitioning a little bit, is because they feel so hopeless that the propaganda machine isn't working against Trump anymore, that he's finally got a reign on this. No pun intended with rain.
SPEAKER_01Rain and Reich are two totally different things, brother.
SPEAKER_00Well, reigning the Reich, you know, some might say the Third Reich reigned over the people of Germany.
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SPEAKER_00Oh, I see, Rihanna. Okay. Yeah. Sorry, I don't know. Yeah. Might have been a bit of a challenge.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that was a stretch there, but hey, we're good at mental gymnastics over here. You can't get mental judo specialists.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like Shaolin monks.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, dude. Guys that want to put it in.
SPEAKER_00You ever been smacked with a bamboo stick before? Oh, yeah. Gets me going. Go work with those shaolin monks. They'll make you learn how to ease the pain of the next one. Yeah, right up the gonads. The camera thinks that's a CCP hop.
SPEAKER_01CCP scam.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Look how great Chinese culture is. Ooky, buddy. MMA will smash you every day of the week.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Sorry, I want to give back to what's happening now because the propaganda machine in our media is starting to struggle a little bit trying to smear Trump. That seems to kind of be slowing down a little bit.
SPEAKER_01Not really. I think it's ramping up.
SPEAKER_00Wide open. It might be true because I but I think what more of the news stories are now are of the crazy DSA policies and people that party of the big temp party.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the machine has to which way do we go here? Because we have a communist insurgency on our left flank, and then on our right flank, we got the MAGA insurgency. So they're just like and they don't know what to do. They're a little they're a little stumped. Are they even? And they're like, they thought they could control it. That that was their mistake. They thought they could bring the communists in who want to burn the system down. Yeah, bring them in. Let's bring them in. Yeah. Brain dead. Because we're a big tent party. I mean, are you does Bernie Sanders not remember when he's trying to give a speech and then these two women come up on stage and just take over the mic, and then because of their identity as black women, they just get to hold him hostage and just burn it into a hey, we're black women and we have a right to voice our opinion. And then the guys, the old white men are like, We're gonna give you a right, we just want the senator to speak, and oh, you gotta listen to me now. And it's just oh man, the entitlement that they've created on that side is just in you have all these disparate groups fighting for power because it's all about power over there. It's not like over on ours, it's about American greatness and serving American greatness. On their side, it's about identitarian power groups and who is diffused to the top.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's like, how do these people end up at political rallies anyhow, or these places where these political figures are speaking and then cause these scenes? But what you're thinking, you think if you go into are disruptive that these guys have a politicians have a magic wand that if you say something so assertively that it's gonna they're gonna wave it and it's gonna be true. It's just expressing their power, bro.
SPEAKER_01It's absurd. It is, it's like a big ego penis swinging contest.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Speaking of Bernie Sanders, who seems to have endorsed and backed a communist Islamic DSA candidate in Michigan's Senate Democratic primary. I think I just mumble jumbled a bunch of words.
SPEAKER_01But I just want to finish one point real quick about Trump and the media. He's used to, I mean, think about how under fire he was during Joe Biden's reign and then through that whole thing. So he knows you do you just keep your head down and you keep working. Because all they're trying to do is they're trying to get you on your back foot. And it's just like now they already have their apparatus that's gonna deal with the fake news, so they just send them out and they just keep charging forward. And look at how the narrative is slowly shifting on Iran, as you know, they say Trump had no plan in Iran. It was just like, oh, we're just gonna be like Venezuela. You're like, yeah, right, dude. He knew exactly what Iran was, it's a fortress. 47 years of missile development, it's a fortress. He knew it's gonna have to be state. That's why the Israelis came in, because the Israelis were the ones with Mossad information to take out the leaders. So they took out the first two levels of the you know leadership, and then America took out the infrastructure, and then he put Israel on the back burner and then continued to take out the infrastructure, and then at the same time, for a year prior to that, Scott Besent has been attacking their banking sector. So, anyways, he knows. Just charge forward and the narrative will work itself out.
SPEAKER_00The results speak for themselves. I have to say, I think one of the biggest learning curves, though, for the media for this deep state machine is learning that you can't bully someone with a deep pocketbook. Because as deep as the deep states pocketbook goes and how much they can bully people through lawsuits and smear campaigns and all of this horrible thing, things that wouldn't bury the normal person, Trump has been so resilient because he could afford to be. And I think they're finally seeing that they've met their match with Trump and that pisses them off.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, because they've typecast him as this retard, this golden Cheeto retard that doesn't know what he's doing, but you're just like, gotta say, pretty effective.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay, call him a retard, but you know what? He look at how resistant he's been to. I know.
SPEAKER_01He is I mean, the guy is just pure resilience. It's mind-boggling. I mean, think of the trials and tribulations this guy has been through in the past ten years. It's nothing like he thought, but uh you can see it. Like it's his mindset. What does he do? I don't know if you heard, but turns out there's another assassination attempt. Five. At or it wasn't an attempt, right? Because they caught the guy long before. But you know, some guy's showing up to his golf course where Trump is in Los Angeles, Trump is supposed to be showing up for a speech or whatever. I didn't even know. And yeah, FBI catches a guy with guns again, and then the news is gonna ask him about it, and he doesn't even give it five seconds of airtime, it's just straight to back back to messaging. And that's how he is. It's just I'm not gonna even think about stuff like that. I'm just gonna charge forward. I'm gonna do what I can control, not what I can't control. And so many people focus on what they can't control, and that's why he's different.
SPEAKER_00At this point, you have to realize Trump has accepted that there are people out to take his life. Yeah, he knows that is an active, there's active attempts on him regularly now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and he doesn't care.
SPEAKER_00No, he's like, Whatever, you gotta die sometimes. And he's like, I've left instructions or something, but I'm gonna keep on keeping on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00Guys can go dirt of politics, man.
SPEAKER_01But they say he's he's the most corrupt president ever. He his family's being it's like all this nonsense that you hear. And at the end of the day, you're like, but you tried to kill him. You tried you impeached him twice, three times. How many times are he's impeached? I don't even know how many times. I mean, there's been a character assassination since who knows how long now, ten years going on strong. Grab him by the pussy. Uh and it's like everything they've thrown at him, he's been able to overcome over and over again. And it's just like he's much more effective than you guys ever were. And that's why he's the biggest threat.
SPEAKER_00Let me just touch on that grab him by the pussy comment because I think you and I both did a little homework on our digital social hour outnumbered segment due to a little something coming up that we might announce a little bit later. But you recall seeing the guy's comment about how Trump in his locker room banter comments used the term grab him by the pussy. This liberal man claimed that he's never in, he was a D1 athlete, he claims, and he never heard of other men in the locker room saying that they would grab a woman by the pussy. And I'm just thinking, okay, hold on. Let me just validate something. I've never heard a man say I'm gonna grab him by the pussy. Maybe that's a Trump exclusive, but good on Trump. I've heard men say some other fucking vulgar shit, but maybe not that exact phrase. What?
SPEAKER_01But that how does that mean Trump is some sexual pedophile like Wait, grab him by the pussy is exclusively locker room talk between D1 athletes? Or just something that you would hear. But my point is it's a descriptor. Like the locker room talk is a descriptor of how men in men's spaces talk vulgarly. It's not like an exclusive expression that's only said in the locker room. Okay, how about this? Garage talk. You know what I mean? Like moron. And then wait, I'm gonna go find the mechanic that said I never said such a thing. What? This is the shit that they do. They take ordinary language and they make it literal language. And it's like men, especially men, they just talk in vague terms. And it's like, what are you talking about? It's okay. What was the context of that tape? He's on a bus with a bunch of groupies, and he's talking to the Billy guy about these women that just throw themselves at him, and he's like, Yeah, you can just grab them by the pussy because they're so loose. That's what he's talking about. I never said such a thing in a locker room. I would never. What? Yeah, yeah, you've never had groupies throwing themselves at you because you're a rich, wealthy man and they want to get on the yacht. Because guess what? Women love experiences, and they'll do anything for a wonderful private yacht experience, as we've seen plenty of times on Instagram.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you could also make some other liberal men cringe. There was one debate of 10 Republican women against one liberal making the assertion that one of the questions was, well, how many of the women here would give themselves to Trump? Oh man, and then the liberal heads would explode if you saw how many women raise their hands. Republican women are like, Do you guys not realize how many women would throw themselves at a chance with Trump? I know.
SPEAKER_01Do gold diggers exist? Yeah, like no, it's because they live in a cult of personality where Trump is this evil Nazi dictator Cheeto man that is decrepit and no woman would ever want anything to do with him ever because of his character. Okay. And you're like, bro, you obviously don't understand women. Yeah. Obviously, liberal women would not want anything to do with him, but liberal women are also questionable. You never know what's underneath that dress. Underneath good. You have no idea what's hanging.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh. It's too good. All right, let's speak of character a little bit. So we've got the Michigan Senate primary Democratic candidate, the Democratic Senate primary. Yep. And we've got the Islam Islam's Abdul El-Said, who won the Democratic primary for Michigan Senate race. And he is now being dubbed pretty much by the right an extremist. He's made remarks such as we want leaders who show up and actually make change. We don't want leaders who show up with a strongly worded letter. We're more at the point of when they go high or when when they go low, we don't go high. We drag them to the mud and we choke them out. And he gets cheers and applaud and of course, because the DSA are and the leftists are violent.
SPEAKER_01And why are they violent? Because they've been conditioned by their media and their social circles to think that they're in this uprising against a far-right dictatorship that's taking over America. So, I mean, you've heard it over and over again, see a Nazi punch them in the face. You know what I mean? So this is this violence is absolutely not only accepted but encouraged on their side. Okay, so to hear him say such violent rhetoric, that is that surprising?
SPEAKER_00No. But it's actually it's now a physical comments that are becoming violent rhetoric, where they try to assert through mental gymnastics that Trump has somehow physically harmed them through his presidency.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because words are violence to these leftists. They've said it over and over again. They've been socially conditioned for how long in in the universities?
SPEAKER_00It's yeah, of course. These people are so brainwashed they think that people have physically lost rights due to Trump's policies. Yeah. They have not.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, of course not.
SPEAKER_00No. And so now we are facing this existential threat. May I use this properly and not like a liberal of an Islamist who's coming in using violent rhetoric in his speeches to rally up his base. And now we are supposed to sit here and be accepting of this and say, oh, that's just the crazy DSA Democrats.
SPEAKER_01I would just say, first of all, you gotta listen to his own words and the way he's presenting himself. And I think he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. It's plain as day because you hear him. He's like, I'm not a socialist, I'm a capitalist. And you're like, what's the old expression, birds of a feather flock together? And you're like, how do you justify campaigning, who you will not disavow, with Hassan Piker, who is an outspoken leftist communist. I mean, he's just he's all about the communists. He doesn't, he thinks it was a great tragedy that the Soviet Union fell. Thinks that America deserved 9-11. He thinks America deserved 9-11. He thinks Mao was a great leader. I mean, he literally dresses like Mao and gives speeches. But it's like, what? And you're like, um, no, absolutely not. I'm the capitalist that hangs out with the communist because reasons.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and then we've got poor Bernie Sanders caught up in the mix. But you know what? Let's talk about how crazy the based Democrats. I'm calling Bernie Sanders a based Democrat these days. That's absurd. Bernie is the socialist epitome of the Democrat Party. He is he was like the first I am a socialist. Yeah. You're like, why not?
SPEAKER_01You know what I love is like how they the left virtue signals like it's only the right or the corporate Democrats that are corrupt. And you're like, okay, how about you look into Bernie Sanders' wife and what she did to the college in their town that they live, and how she took exorbitant loans out on the college, this small little college, and bankrupted it. And then paid her daughter a a wonderful salary from those loans. Now I might have gotten that wrong with the paying the daughter thing, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. It's been a while since I've looked into it. Yeah, except you're like money laundering.
SPEAKER_00No, nothing unusual to the Democrats.
SPEAKER_01She was the president and she had every right to take the thing, but it's just what it is. It's not evidence necessarily of wrongdoing, but it's evidence of how corruption works. There is no human on this earth that is immune to corruption, including you and me. But that's the problem. I don't say that I'm God's gift to this earth. I understand that there's this little justification rationale in the back of my mind that sees an opportunity knows it's probably immoral to take it. And it's like, ooh, but that apple looks really tasty.
SPEAKER_00I have to get this off my chest because it's gonna kill me. So Bernie Sanders shows up on a mainstream news outlet, and thank the Lord. I don't even know if it was Fox News, it could have been uh one of our favorite MSN MS DNC uh channels or something like that.
SPEAKER_01Probably LBC or CNN, because MSDNC is never gonna because they're just a like they are just the propaganda outlet for the Democrats. Okay.
SPEAKER_00They actually ask a base question to Bernie. They're like, hey Bernie, Abdul al-Said, he's got the support from Hassan Piker he's seen going around with him during some of his rallies and things like that, who's a known advocate of saying, or you know he's a sympathizer of Hamas and all these things, and that 9-11 deserve. So Bernie's being confronted with all these things, right, that are pretty extreme. They are extreme. They're not pretty extreme, they are extreme. And they go, Bernie, do you think that's okay that he was parading around with these people and saying these things and that he's got the support of these people? And Bernie goes, I think Deflection, deflection. I thank God Bernie says this, at least at minimum, bare minimum. He goes, Yeah, I think it was stupid that he said that about 9-11, but he's got a lot of supporters, and we need to be talking to everybody because we're a big temp party. And I'm just like, so you're a big temp party, so you throw even the the Islamist terrorists in there, the sympathizers of the terrorist organizations. Power. Okay, but let's talk about this again. What about the fact when Trump was faced with the opportunity to condemn or yeah, condemn white supremacy when it came to the uh the issues going on in North Carolina, or things like that. The the media and everyone said, you must condemn white supremacy, or you yourself, sir, are a white supremacist. And Trump clearly came out and said, I disavow him. I disavow uh their action. He said there's good people on both sides. That's the good people on both sides hoax. Good people on both sides. Oh my gosh, what an argument. He didn't say that they're welcome into the Republican Party.
SPEAKER_01No, what he said was is he said, I disavow the white supremacists completely. But on the issue, because what the protest was based off of removing statutes, removing American history, which the Marxists want to do. Because if you take away a person's identity and their culture, it's easier to subvert it. It's you take it away and you demoralize. And if you go and you look at the left, they are nothing but a bunch of demoralized cucks, especially the white people. The white people are demoralized cucks. And I sent you a video of a guy giving his personal testimony of his they live in a DC suburb, super successful family, but they're all liberal, hardcore left-wing grandma, all the way the matriarch. And she's just this witch of a woman who just hates white people, thinks white people are the disease. And it's just what has the left been telling us over and over again that you are the disease, you are the problem, you're the reason why slavery existed. Now don't look at the Arabs, don't look at the Arabs on their slave trade, which Br Britain had to put an end to with military force, right? Foreign wars, though, those are evil.
SPEAKER_00Right. Getting back to Bernie and his remarks, though, do you notice how the media didn't force or coerce him into disavowing those remarks from those extremists? Of course. No, they just asked, What was your what are your thoughts on that? And then he's allowed to be inclusive of them and say, We welcome them into the big tent. He said, We welcome all people. Yes. What? Yep. Could you imagine if Trump was like, we welcome the white supremacists into the big tent Republican Party? Yep. Could you imagine? Yep. Game over. It would be it. That would be all we ever hear. Trump is the party of the recipe.
SPEAKER_01I mean, double standards, does that really surprise you at this point of the game?
SPEAKER_00It's no, but it still makes me pissed off and makes me go berserk.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I understand that. But at the same time, it's like he's just a thought leader and he's signaling to his supporters that are kind of on the fence where he's just, yeah, I mean, Bernie's right because we literally have a fascist dictator that's taking over. So we gotta allow the DSA and we'll take care of those guys later. It doesn't matter that they're open about getting rid of the Senate and the Electoral College and the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, let's shift focus then to the somebody who's actually going to be the probably the candidate for the Democrats and hopefully by right of a nomination and not just by force injection into the presidential primary this time around. Good old Kamala Harris. Do we think she's gonna be the front runner to the presidency for 2028 for the Democrats? No, I bet you it's gonna be this Abdul al-Said. No, because he's gonna be in the Senate. He's not gonna drop his Senate seat if he wins it to go be the president.
SPEAKER_01That's exactly what he's gonna do.
SPEAKER_00I think he already owns the rights for his presidential campaign website. But we have two big of candidates. We have Gavin Newsom who may be making a presidential run, and we have Kamala Harris who's gonna want another attempt at this. Gavin Newsom's a white man. You act like a white man's never been a white president. Oh no, that that ended with Joe Biden.
SPEAKER_01That was done, huh?
SPEAKER_00That was one and done.
SPEAKER_01So now we're gonna get a black female president or we're gonna get a uh we'll have we'll have, yes, it's probably gonna be this Abdul al-Said.
SPEAKER_00Can you imagine the president of the United States?
SPEAKER_01The president of the United States, Abdul Al-Saeed. Yeah. I didn't say he's gonna win, I'm gonna say that's who they're gonna run because just go watch the guy. He is Obama 2.0. He uses the same mannerisms, the same pause technique. He the he talks like Obama. It's uncanny. And he's very charismatic. And you think these white women who hate themselves and hate white people are they would be lining up in droves to vote for that guy. It would be, it would probably be as close as Kamala and Trump was in 2024. That's what I that's what I predict. There's just no way. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I can't believe it. But hold on, let's talk about Kamala because she was just recently on TV talking about it. Everyone's over the drunk wine mom, even the left. But how is it that they're trying to destroy some of our constitutional guardrails that protect our democracy when they are the party of democracy? You're gonna you want to get rid of the electoral college, the one that supposedly gives representation to people in the most rural parts of America, not the one, not that that thing that drowns out everyone else from the major metropolitan areas.
SPEAKER_01Who controls the rural areas? The Republicans. Exactly. Yeah. That's why. Who it's minority, it's because their majority can't overtake the minority because the minority has been given power, but in this case, they don't like the minority because the minority is the evil white rural person.
SPEAKER_00And then Kamala comes out and says, Oh, similar to the federal courts, I don't know why the Supreme Court only has nine justices. We need 13. We have 13 federal districts. You're like, man, you are just filled with bad ideas, Kamala.
SPEAKER_01Bro. Very bad. What are we talking about? Why don't we just expand the court now then? And let's put in conservative justices.
SPEAKER_00The liberals are gonna be the first ones to boot the filibuster, and they're gonna fucking ram their agenda through.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, oh yeah. And it'll be a DSA leftist agenda just like they did under Joe Biden. Joe Biden promised to be the most progressive president in U.S. history, and what did he do? What was his most progressive policy? We had no borders. And that's what they promise. They want to flood us with immigrants from the third world so that they can eliminate, as in their own words, the evil white race. Because remember, we are blamed for everything because of the color of our skin. Remember, and we're racist for it. We're the racists that care about the color of our skin. No, we're the cucks.
SPEAKER_00You want to see a racist nation that I support, go take a look at Poland because they're the only European nation that's preserved their cultural heritage. And you want to know how they did that? Controlling their borders. Very strict border policy, secure borders. And guess what? They actually just passed legislation that allows their border security to fire with lethal ammunitions at anybody attempting to break through their borders.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And you know why they do that?
SPEAKER_01So no one even attempts. Right. It's a deterrent, the ultimate deterrent. Yeah, because they know they're gonna get they're gonna lose their life by trying to bum rush the border.
SPEAKER_00It's like I I get it. The United States is a much more vast and larger country than Poland, but at the same time, we need to have strict border policy because the flooding of migrants coming from our southern border, and even something not talked about, is the flooding of migrants that come from the northern border as well through Canada is just outrageous.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because Canada freely lets them in, and then they go and flood our ports of entry. And this is a great. No, I mean, at the end of the day, it's just like all you gotta do is just reveal these people who they actually are. I think it's really great to kind of see finally the milktoast liberal finally waking up like a Bill Maher to what we have seen for a very long time because they have a blind spot to it because they're a big tent party. And like, oh, they just come on, they're just kids in college. What are you talking about? And well, guess what? That was ten years ago. Now all those are coming out, and it's a freaking communist insurgency that's taking over all of their key Democrat power positions. They've they're taking out all these guys that were like critical players in Congress for Democrats, and now they're waking up like, oh, we have a problem.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you think so? Hello, Democrats. You're about to lose your party. I mean, I wonder how long it is until we see the Democrat Party officially change its name to the Socialist Party or No, it'll be the Democrat Socialist Party of America, is what it's gonna evolve into.
SPEAKER_01I mean, they already have 30%. It's a foregone conclusion at this point. So now it's okay, can we will the question remains, will the media, are there enough people in the media to recognize, hey, we hate Trump, but this is an existential crisis to us and our identity. So maybe we need to shift gears here and realize we hate Trump, but we kind of love the Constitution a little bit more than that. We kind of love the American institutional system of the separation of powers. Because what does the DSA want? The DSA wants mob rule. Why do they want mob rule? Because they control the mob. They control the numbers in these big cities.
SPEAKER_00I think what's so scary about the DSA is that they are getting so good at strategically normalizing some of this very extreme behavior. And I recently saw an interview where we had a conservative journalist out in the field at one of these big uh, I don't know what it was, like an event for pride or whatever. And they were interviewing some of the people. She comes across a boomer liberal, older gentleman. And you know how they have all these media police out at these liberal events now that run up to the people being interviewed and they say, Don't talk, don't talk, talk. They're gonna clip this. This is rage bait, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. This boomer guys, I don't need you here telling me who to talk to. He goes, Well, I do share your values, the democratic values. He goes, I also believe in things like free speech. So if I want to talk to this woman, rigorous debate. Right. If I want to talk to this woman, then let me be. I do not need you to tell me who I can and cannot talk to. But the more we see these media police, these free speech police running around on these videos that are hyper blown up in social media, right? Blown into the faces of all of the young upcoming generations. They all think this is normal behavior. They're like, oh yeah, we don't we can't talk to those people. We cannot do that. They're proving our point to these people makes no sense. We shouldn't do that. You're like, maybe some healthy dialogue would actually be good for you.
SPEAKER_01No, because their ideas die on the vine because they don't work, because they haven't thought using first principles. What are unintended consequences of this? How is this actually hurting the community that I purport to serve? Like Mom Donnie and his grocery chain. Let me undermine the immigrant uh business by fixing prices.
SPEAKER_00The gold here, the liquid gold of all these interviews with these young liberals is when they are starting to use words like fascist, socialist I'm not so I'm sorry. But yeah, socialism. So if you ask a liberal, what is fascism? What is socialism? The definitions are very vague. And they like you're saying, the idea dies right there and then because they can't even go beyond just a fixed definition of what it means. It's when you ask them to say, What is a woman? And they try to go into their mental gymnastics of, oh, it's somebody who feels that way. Like, no, that's not what it is. So if you can't give a definition of something, how can you stand behind it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, the the problem is that we have such a wealth gap dispense. And we have all this fear running around on social media of the oligarchy and all that sort of stuff. And they're kind of just circling the drain on the symptoms, right? And if you actually use your brain and you're not married to id ideologies, you realize that what they're pointing to is it's very true. And in a perfect world, it probably would be a mixture of social welfare policies, robust so social welfare policies with robust capitalist policies coming together and using the industry to support the social needs, right, of taking care of the neighbor and everything like that. But the problem is it's all about power and power dynamics for Marxists. It's not really about serving the social and the undeserving, it's about their own power and coming to power because they see them as the evil capitalist dictator, and they themselves will fashion them as the benevolent dictator. And that's the problem with it. It's a power dynamic. It has nothing to do with actually serving the needs of the people. It's how can I use the needs of the people, exploit them to gain power for my own self-aggrandizement. That's what it is at the end of the day. And it's like that's why it's such a threat, and that's why it never works. Because you have corrupt individuals, because remember, all of humanity is corrupt. There's no such thing as an uncorrupted person except Jesus Christ. And once you give a corrupt person absolute power, that absolute power corrupts absolutely. And we've seen it time and time again. And these people think that, oh, if you just layer it with bureaucracy, which are just corrupt people, it's like, bro, we you already complain about the dem the bureaucracy that we have and that it doesn't serve the needs of the people. And you think somehow you're gonna create a bureaucracy that's socialist. What? It already is socialist. That's what the government is. The government's already socialist. Right. We've created a welfare state. The government create. The government creates nothing. And what is socialism? It doesn't create anything. It takes. We already have a socialist government.
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SPEAKER_01It's just it's not so socialist enough. We need 70% tax rates, not 30%. We need a hundred percent tax rate on all billionaires. And it's like that's not gonna do anything, guys. Because guess what? You need continual revenue. Right. Not just a one-time revenue, and billionaires aren't Joe, where'd you go, Joe? I thought you were gonna say something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I was gonna say, so how do we end up here? Because we talked about this a little bit, and I think it's a good way to wrap this up. We have the basically How do we end up here?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. The Soviets. That's how we ended up here. And Soviets had Soviet Marxist subversion during the McCarthy years. McCarthy was 100% right. The Red Scare was absolutely right, and we had these Marxist people with this Marxist ideology. All they did is they just went underground. Yeah. That's the reason. You're never gonna get rid of grievance politics, right? So once they started, McCarthy started attacking and blackballing all these people, they just stopped opening their mouths. It's the same thing with conservatives in Hollywood. Conservatives in Hollywood just don't open their mouths.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So my thought was going back to Obama, eight years of Obama, progressive policies, Republicans, conservatives alike, getting exhausted from these types of policies being implemented, taking over our government, and slowly encroaching themselves and becoming more prominent, got really exhausted. Political correctness also started becoming a very big thing at the end of Obama's terms, and we were getting tired of that. We were starting to lose our ability to feel like we could say certain things, maybe some locker room banter on the regular that we used to do freely in the early 2000s. A lot of name-calling, but just kind of for fun type of stuff, nothing that had any substance or meaning to it. People got really fed up. And then we have this man coming in 20, what was it, 2015, 2016, Donald Trump. And here he is saying all the things that you're not allowed to say, but all the people are thinking. And they go, This is the guy. That is who we want as the next president of the United States because he is going to stand and say the things and do the things that we don't feel like we're allowed to do anymore. And so because we were pushed to an extreme and we felt like we were in a corner, we elected Donald Trump into office in 2016. We see what he does to Hillary Clinton, which was just phenomenal. He turned politics from this very cordial, buttoned up WWE. Yeah. Show into a just all out, just it's war.
SPEAKER_01It was WWE. Yeah. That's what it was. At the end of the day, it was WWE. It was like, that's as that's how he was looking at it. Right. But then the Democrats treated it like it was an actual MMA fight. Yep. We he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that that body slam that I just did on Hillary Clinton, you should be in jail. That was just WWE. You're supposed to be in on it. You just hit the mat and we're good to go. And they're like, no, fuck that, dude. You just knocked her out.
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SPEAKER_01Yeah. And that's what it's been the entire time.
SPEAKER_00We're going to eliminate you. Then we get Joe Biden and we have we fall back into a social progressive. You need to go all the way back to Bill Clinton, bro. And you need to go back to that. Because now we've had a second term after Joe Biden of Trump, who learned from his first term how to be more strategic and implement actual people to align with him and his party and to actually create a railroad to apply his agenda to get things done.
SPEAKER_01Yes, you're right, but how did it take root in the psyche of disenfranchised young voters who think that they don't have any because the media has been telling them that everything Trump is doing is extremist, is fascist. That was so that the value of capital could outpace the value of labor. And since then, if you look at the labor trend since the 70s, and then you look at the labor at our and the capital trend, the it the capital trend is exponential, and that's why we are where we are. It all leads back to that and that exploitation of just being able to print money because the more money you print, the more it inflates asset classes. You know what I mean? That's what's increased the wealth gap, right? Qualitative, quantitative easing or whatever the hell they call it, when they just print more act, just add or add more zeros on the fucking screen. And so COVID and the inflationary crisis we saw. And then they exported all of our high-skilled labor manufacturing jobs, right? Gave them to China and when the East Asia. And now is and then so it was a deliberate undermining of the American industrial might. Right. Because that revealed itself in World War II. The reason why we won World War II was because of our industrial capacity. Who has the industrial capacity now? China has the industrial capacity. It's a who will win the next war? He who can build the most bombs the fastest. Right. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00And not end supply chains. And so, yeah, after so many years of these crazy policies eventually leading us into the Donald Trump era, we now have a Democrat, liberal, extreme party who is now turning into socialists. Yeah. And I think that's a good point to end on because I'm sure we're going to see a lot more to come, especially with more DSA candidates coming through. And you're absolutely right.
SPEAKER_01Big point, though, is the hope is what Donald Trump is trying to bring us back to. It's back to that mindset of industrial capacity. And that is what he's trying to rebuild is that industrial capacity. You bring back industrial capacity, you bring back the good jobs, the good manufacturing jobs, the higher labor, higher paying jobs, and we're good to go.
SPEAKER_00Well, we'll definitely have a little bit more of that to go. We have another two years of Donald Trump in the office, so we're gonna have to be patient, stick there with man, the myth, the legend, see what he can do for us.
SPEAKER_01You're absolutely right. Come on, guys, you made a choice. It's a four-year choice. Have some ball sack. It's like these guys that put their chips on the table and they're like, oh, I gotta pull back. It's like, bruh, let's see where the chips fall. Yep. And if it's a great mistake, well, shit, we'll try again next time.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. And that sounds like a great way to end off episode twenty one of the Spark Show. Don't forget everybody to tune in to uh YouTube, subscribe to our videos. We got shorts posted there on the daily. We got our social media channels, Instagram and Facebook, soon to be TikTok. And we hope that we'll catch you guys all there and see you on the next episode of the Spark Show. Peace.