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From Aerospace Engineer to Entrepreneur: Kay Wells on Innovation, Purpose & Building Posie Pots

• Jamal Cornelious

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On this episode of Gateway to Growth, host Jamal Cornelious sits down with entrepreneur, inventor, and Posie Pots founder Kay Wells for an inspiring conversation about career pivots, entrepreneurship, innovation, and finding purpose through creation.

Kay shares her journey from working as a mechanical engineer for companies like Boeing, Northrop Grumman, and Amazon to leaving the corporate world and launching Posie Pots — a patented self-watering planter designed to make plant care easier and more accessible. She reflects on her background in aerospace engineering, advanced manufacturing, and 3D printing, and how those experiences unexpectedly laid the foundation for entrepreneurship.

The conversation explores startup growth, innovation, resilience, and the realities of building a business from the ground up. Kay opens up about turning an idea into a product, receiving early support through St. Louis’ startup ecosystem, landing opportunities with Walmart, Good Morning America, and Shark Tank, and navigating the emotional highs and lows that come with scaling a company.

Kay also discusses mentorship, creating opportunities through STEM education and 3D printing programs, empowering future entrepreneurs, and why St. Louis continues to be an important place for innovation and community building.

This episode is a must-listen for entrepreneurs, founders, engineers, creatives, and anyone considering a career pivot or pursuing an idea they feel called to build.


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Cold Open + Show Introduction

SPEAKER_01

Welcome back to another episode of Gateway to Growth. I'm your host, Jamal Cornelius, an executive coach and CEO of Mission Defined, and I get to work with teams while they're experiencing growth. We have a very special guest today who has experienced growth on all facets of life from working in corporate space as an executive engineer to now being a startup founder and leading a very successful company.

Meet Kay Wells & The Story Behind Posie Pots

SPEAKER_01

And we're excited to welcome Kay Wells, the CEO of PoseyPod. Kay, welcome.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Thank you, Jamal. I'm so excited to be here. So excited to tell the story of going from engineer to entrepreneur. So thank you.

SPEAKER_01

So, yeah, absolutely. So your story is absolutely fascinating. And we want to get into your background. But first, I want you to tell us about PoseyPod, about what you do now. What is the role? What's the company? How do you what's your work right now? What's giving you life there?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. So PoseyPots is completely giving me life, giving plants life, no pun intended. But um I get a chance to every single day live out my biggest, truest, most honest, authentic life. It's so amazing. I mean, I get a chance to every day get up and reimagine PoseyPots, which is a self-watering planter where you only have to water your plants but once a month. Once a month? Once a month. That's it.

SPEAKER_01

So for those of us who do not have a green thumb, this invention is something that you both created and brought to market and to save us and to hopefully uh save the air quality in our homes.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, absolutely save both plant and plant odor alike from never worrying about killing your plants. So no overwater, no underwater, no root rot, no pests, no any of that. So it's a patented engineered self-watering planter. The actual patented name is called a closed loop sub irrigation self-watering planter.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna pretend like I've played a potential in plant physiology and I get what you're talking about, but that sounds really awesome. Thank you. So that is first of all, congratulations. Thank you. It's it's a major thing to take that leap to jump out there and start something new. And you took a leap when we talk about leaving what feels like a sure thing and a career that everyone would tell you is where you need to just ride that wave and retire and just be there as an

From Mechanical Engineer to Entrepreneur

SPEAKER_01

engineer. Like that's that's it. That's where you are. And at some of the blue chip companies. So tell us a little bit about your superhero origin story. What's that background?

SPEAKER_00

That that's amazing. I mean, that is literally the foundation of where we are today. I would not take any piece of it back. Um, so I actually went to school for mechanical engineering. I actually went to St. Louis University right down the street.

SPEAKER_01

Shout out to SLU.

SPEAKER_00

Shout out to SLU. Um, got my bachelor's of science in mechanical engineering, and I went off and I started working for Boeing. I worked for Northrop Grumman. I even got a chance to like build the Amazon that we see today, like some of those early engineers on like building the back-end structures of what it means to pick pack stow and get your order out in two days and just like kind of take over that whole sector of e-commerce. But even rolling it back to the aerospace engineering, which is where everything started with composites, layups, 3D printing. I got a chance to work on some of the most amazing projects. We're talking carriers and fighters and living um in Arizona and California and like literally traveling the whole um country, you know, um building what we see today, some of the really cool um tech that we get to see today. I was a part of that early startup and development RD. So I was an RD rocket science engineer.

SPEAKER_01

That's so cool. And and the inner child in me who was obsessed with that F-14 Time Cat from the original Top Gun. Like, I'm just geeking out right now, listening to your story and the fact that you got to be a part of that world. I did. And you not just had the training for it, but were able to work for a lot of people go to school and they end up landing a job that's not fully connected to their career. And you got to do something in that foundational space where you get to, you know, leverage all the skills you learned and then some.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, I I remember this one day working out in Palmdale, Lancaster, just like walking up, and it's like zero dark 30, like dark hour, and you see all these cool like things that you would see in like a you know movie, and you're like, oh, I should take my phone out, take a picture. But you know there's like the people so respectfully, you know, just to all the programs and all the things, but just really cool, like traveling and and doing. I even got a chance to work on like the F-35 um um the center fuselage part where I walked up inside of like the vertical takeoff and landing part, and it's just some cool stuff. And then also working on like the uh um 787s and like some of the bonded brace stuff and some of the things that's that's just on the carry, I mean the commercial side as well. So I got to work defense, I got to work commercial, I got to travel, go to all these cool tech conferences. Everybody's talking about AI now. We've been doing machine learning. You know, we've been, you know, and I'm so excited to see that, you know, AI is here and that 3D printing is here, which is how PoseyPods got got started. It's all 3D printing, it's all advanced manufacturing, it's all those things.

SPEAKER_01

And that's so cool. I mean, the the part where I'm curious now is that's quite a leap to go from aerospace engineering to, you know, I think the the transition in like Amazon is definitely an easier

The Inspiration That Sparked Posie Pots

SPEAKER_01

lead into it. But now you're doing a direct-to-consumer product, something that helps people in their day-to-day lives. Most of us want to be plant parents, most of us are bad at being plant parents, and we struggle to keep our plants alive, but we know that the benefits that they have for the air quality in our homes and just for the serenity, that peace of mind as we, you know, go through the everyday stress of life. So, what precipitated that change? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

It definitely was a struggle story. And the struggle goes like this. So we moved from California back to St. Louis to Missouri. I forgot we had mosquitoes. There are no mosquitoes in California. Right. I forgot no mosquitoes in California. So I moved back and I'm outside gardening because everyone out west is like all, you know, green conscious. And this is before they told them to turn the water off.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So everything was like eat from your table and you know, high vibrational foods, and you know, you want to like grow your own and like get into this, like, you know, early stages of you know, eating clean and green and sustainability.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm outside gardening one day, shorts and a t-shirt, no book spray, anything, nothing for a whole hour. La la la la la. And I'm thinking, all right, if I get bit by a mosquito, it's gonna be the really big fat ones that's like, you know, from the south that are gonna land and I'm gonna have time to smack it. No, I look down, there was like a sea of micro mini mosquitoes just everywhere, all over. A swarm. So a swarm, and I run in into the house, turn on the shower, everything's still on, fully closed. And I'm thinking, and and it just hits me like some people like say, like that like stroke or that light or like that genius spark. Yeah, I really felt like that happened to me. It was like you only need to water your plants but once a month. Okay, and all these ideas and RD, and and do it like this, and put a reservoir at the bottom and have drainage and have it where it's the soil on top, and any kind of plant has to can has to be in this from a seed to a tree to an already existing plant, everything has to come in a one piece solution. So it's a set it and forget it system that has the drainage, has the aeration, has everything that you need. Any plant would need, water it once a month. And I built these prototype boxes and grew 10 foot tall tomato plants, and I'm doing the CAD drawing, trying to convert it from like this thing that I see inside my mind's eye that I want it to come to like to life.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It was a stroke story. That's awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So now I'm curious from a business perspective, what was that tipping point? Because one of the hardest things as an entrepreneur is to you follow your passion, you're working a full-time job to pay your bills. And at some point, you say, I'm gonna go all in on this. I'm gonna bet the farm. I'm gonna just pour myself into this and see if I can make it happen. What was that tipping point for you?

SPEAKER_00

That tipping point was um,

Arch Grants, Startup Growth & Early Success

SPEAKER_00

we won um an umstil grant. So it was one of the first, he it was like a $50,000 grant. They're not doing it anymore, but this was like the kind of um a little bit of the earlier stages, but it was like, wow, someone will believe in this idea enough to see that we could do $50,000. And then as soon as we got that $50,000, Good Morning America called. And then we're we sold out at ABC's deal or no deal in like a month, and then it just kept building and stacking and building, and then we got with Walmart, and now we're doing Walmart, and then it kept building and stacking, and then Shark Tank called us and building and stacking. And I was like, I need to for as much that for as my salary that I can make in my day-to-day job, I could then make it in the business, and it was that almost math equation of okay, this is mathing. Yeah, let's go ahead and math is math, the math is mathing.

SPEAKER_01

Let's go ahead and go all in and see how it goes. So, one of the it's really cool that you kind of saw that groundswell of support coming your way. Like I always tell people that when you're good at something, you tell everybody, but when you're great at something, people tell you. And this was one of those moments where the world was telling you, this might be the thing you need to focus on. This might be the gift that you're giving us, this might be the path you need to walk. That's that's phenomenal that all of those stars aligned. And also, it was interesting that the the St. Louis ecosystem specifically wrapped itself around you and created space for you to take a step back and take this leap. And as every step you took, it seemed like the ecosystem was taking that step

Why Kay Chose St. Louis

SPEAKER_01

with you. So I'm curious because you mentioned coming from California, coming back to St. Louis. I always like to ask our guests, you know, we're here right here in STL Bucketless Studios. Why St. Louis? Why did you choose to plant and grow here? What made this the right place for you to plant your roots for your company and grow here?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. I love St. Louis. St. Louis is home. I know so many people say this. Like, if they've ever moved away or lived in another place, we always come back.

SPEAKER_01

My wife is a boomerang. That's why I'm here.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. St. Louis is such a hometown. Like, there's no other city that has the culture, the love. And I'm actually first generation, a first generation St. Louis in. My entire family's from the south, all from Mississippi. They're all farmers. That's the whole like beginning love of gardening and planting. And like, you know, shout out to the great grands. And actually, Posey is my great-great-grandmother's name. And so phenomenal. Thank you. Yes, it's totally. And, you know, they brought us here. They said, you know, St. Louis is a place where, you know, like a lot of people from the South were moving to different cities, the Chicago, the Memphis, and our family came to St. Louis. This was a purposefully chosen spot for us to set our roots. And we have a lot of really amazing um grassroots um connections here. And um, you know, like we said, SLU, um, Umpsil, and then Arch Grants as well. So St. Louis has just really wrapped their arms around um myself and PoseyPots as a as a business and a startup, is it's been amazing. So, I mean, the community is awesome. I grew up in the community, giving back to the community and it's home.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I think there's something unique about the people here and how they show up for you, especially when you're doing something interesting and you're doing the work. People here rally behind you, they will wrap their arms around you, they'll connect you to the people you need to connect to. It is a, it's got that big small town feel. Like it's it's still when you're in it, when you start to get to know people and you start to do the work, people show up for you and they'll make sure they that you're going to be successful. Absolutely.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You're so right, Jamal. They do, they do. It just reminded me of um they're building or they're going to have coming up soon the uh topping off of the roof of the AMIC

Manufacturing, STEM Education & Giving Back

SPEAKER_00

building. So the Advanced Manufacturing and Innovation Center, um, which is you know right next to Rankin. And and it's so funny because I grew up in that neighborhood. Like we rode our bikes. We when we moved from the south here, we bought a house on land that's in this exact same street, one street over. So it's just so serendipitous and just like full circle all the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So you have some plans to be a mentor in that space, maybe helping some folks as they start to build out that space and more folks in St. Louis explore careers in advanced manufacturing. Absolutely. So you've been you've kind of charted your own path there.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes. So we we we actually do do that extension. So we have the Posey Pots as a product, but Kay Wells myself, I'm um, I would like to say an educator and a steward of like the community. So I'm always into uh educating and and reaching back. So we do 3D printing classes, we do plant in the pose pot classes, but the 3D printing classes, which is partner right now, um, we're working with a couple of the universities, but right now we've really been working with Missouri Works Initiative, which, like you said, is you know, showing people how manufacturing can look different in different spaces and what advanced manufacturing looks like when we're using 3D printing, um, not only on a small scale, because uh like the pots can be this five-inch size. We can also do a three-foot-tall planner pot that could fit the size of the plant that's in the back corner. So yeah, that's really cool. Large format printing.

SPEAKER_01

And I love the combination of both building something intentional that serves a common good, that's helping people in their homes, but also actively doing the work to reach back, to teach others, to show them that this is a potential pathway for them to either be an entrepreneur, an innovator, an engineer, or someone who just at least demystifies what engineering is. And it's not this crazy scientific thing that's too smart for you, to advance for you that you can't touch. This is something that could be at the hands of anybody in our community. We just need to open our eyes, find the right people to connect us and do the work.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. You hit it right on the head. Yes. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

I love that. So we have a section on our podcast that we call the coaching corner, where we have an opportunity to just give a little bit of guidance and advice for folks who are navigating different points of change

Coaching Corner: Thriving in Startups

SPEAKER_01

in their career. And having been a founder and a leader in a startup organization, one of our questions came from a listener who is also new in a startup space. And one of the questions is how do you create a path for yourself and you know, make sure that you can be successful in a growing company? So if you are getting onto this rocket ship of a startup that is Posey Pots or SEO bucket list, these other companies that people are building in St. Louis, how do you make sure that you can add value, that you can be successful, that you can be seen and kind of try to path for yourself? So thinking about your career and thinking about even what you look for when you're building, bringing team members on, what are some of the things that you think would make them successful in the startup space?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. So I mentioned some of those uh startup ecosystem places and things like that. But aside from that, is it the 10,000 hours or 20,000 hours? Which one is it? 10,000 hour rule.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You see how I pumped it up to 20,000, right?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, so 20,000 would probably be viable. So it was popularized by Malcolm Gladwell's book, Outliers. But the rule states, for those of us who don't know, is the 10,000, they say that it takes 10,000 hours of intentional practice in something in which you are inherently talented to become an expert. So if you have the talent, you have the potential, you invest that 10,000 hours, you'll be on the path for expertise.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. That do that. I would, I mean, I sp I spent a lot of hours studying not only what I knew from an engineering perspective, but I spent 10, 10,000, 20, actually 20,000 hours combing through um what is advanced manufacturing, what is 3D printing, how do I build my prototype? How do I market it? How do I now, now that that first three things that I said is just the structural and mechanical and like physical things. But then the the almost like pieces that you can't really grasp is how do I market it? How do I tell people about it? How do I get people excited? How do I build my brand?

Marketing, Branding & Building Expertise

SPEAKER_00

What does that look like? And those are all the things that we just like feel. So I would spend that 10 to 20,000 hours in the physical piece of whatever it is that you want to do, whether it's a product or a service. And then I would also spend another 10 to 20,000 hours of how do you send your messaging out to the people that makes them want to go? Hey, I need to have that product. Ooh, I need to have that service. I really want to hear this story from this person and who they are. So, yes, that's what I would advise the listener.

SPEAKER_01

I love that. I think if I'm hearing you correctly, it's very much in line with everything that I think. That I think the first thing you need is self-awareness. Understand what your gifts are, what you're bringing to the table, why they brought you in to the team. Because you add value. You were brought in on purpose. Okay. Understanding where you naturally shine, where you're naturally strong is the first step. And in that, you can hone the gifts that you have and also be curious. What does a company need? What do you need to learn? If you're self-aware and you know what you know, you also should be keenly aware of what you don't know and start to seek out ways. The people who've done it before who can give you more sage advice,

Avoiding Analysis Paralysis & Building Teams

SPEAKER_01

the outside resources, doing your own research, you know, test and fail.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

All of that is a part of that journey.

SPEAKER_00

But A B test, A, B, A, B, A, B test.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And also, there's a thing that engineers say, or even carpenters, measure twice, cut once. Like, like look at it and then look at it again and then go for it. Don't look at it a third, four, fifth time. Like, look at, like, really look at it, like at least twice, and then just go. Because analysis, paralysis, we all have it. Like, we're like, oh, I don't want to do it. Uh, what if? No, just do it. You already looked at it, you already gave your heart into it. You already now go.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And then that last piece, which you hit on as well, build your team. You are not, it is not a one size fits all. It should not be you're your genius in your lane, and other people are geniuses in their lane. So bring on those other geniuses that are like awesome in their their lane, but be self-aware that I know, I don't know, um, marketing or what a PL is or uh all the things that the CFO does.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And even if I know these things, is it the best use of my time to try to do all of these things? You don't want to be a jack of all trades, master of none. Yes. Where can you be the expert? And what other experts do you need to bring in to fill the gaps where you know enough to know what's missing? Yes. But you don't, you're not the person who's going to lead that part of the work.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And trust and empower those people when you come in. So if you're that new person on the team, you absolutely want to find that lane where you can demonstrate that you can be trusted and empowered to own your lane of the work. Absolutely. Because that's what I know are definitely what founders are looking for if they're building out their team. They don't have time to micromanage or supervise everybody. It's I will provide guidance, I will provide vision, but let's jump in and carry this together.

SPEAKER_00

You hit it right on the head. Yes, perfect. And stay scrappy for as long as possible. Stay frugal for as long as possible. Like for as long, as long

Startup Growth, Funding & Staying Scrappy

SPEAKER_00

as you can. Because we all are, you know, what about funding? What about funding? I feel like funding is all always out there. It's just about how you manage your path to getting there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So it sounds like, you know, one of the things that they say about startups, especially, is that sometimes people quit right before they hit a breakthrough.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

They they reach a point where it's

Burnout, Breakthroughs & Entrepreneurial Resilience

SPEAKER_01

so difficult not realizing that just getting over that last hump is where your breakthrough is going to come. That's where success lies. You know, did you have one of those moments where you were ready and you were like, hey, this idea is great, but it's just not quite taking off yet? And just when you had a moment, you felt like maybe I should go back to that job and and keep this paycheck.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And then something comes as you push through.

SPEAKER_00

It's true. It's so true. I can you like you put me right back to the moment of Good Morning America is calling. You just got this um grand. All these things are coming at you. You're on camera. I'm not like a like a TV camera person. Now you're out in front and you have to like, you know, polish those things. Over time, but it was right when everything was all in my face. And I had to send like a snippet to ABC. And all the while I'm doing like homework for umpsules program acceleration, you know, just stretching and reaching and stretching. And I am not a crier. I'm not. And I just was like in the middle of class with everybody, everyone around, 10, 15 people around, I just folded in that moment and just like cried, like, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. And then I had to pull myself together and get on camera. That was the moment. That was the moment where I was like, we're doing it. Like, like almost like um like an athlete. You know, like when you when you when when you're lifting weights, you're literally tearing your muscle, like ripping it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

For it to heal back up and be stronger. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Sometimes those moments, you know, we we have a minor breakdown before that breakthrough, right? It's a little cathartic. Sometimes you just have a moment where you're gonna sit there, things feel overwhelming, and it's hard. And that's that can be the truth for now. Yeah. And we can ugly cry and then we can shake that off and say, now let's get back in the game. I love that.

SPEAKER_00

So right, Jamal.

SPEAKER_01

I love that. Thank you for that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you for these questions too. It's such a like a very like purposeful and um heart-driven and authentic. Yeah. Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think all meaningful work and everything that we build is is always very personal. You know, we spend a lot of time at work, we put a lot of ourselves into it, our mental energy, we care about what we're doing. It's all inherently personal. So it's okay to feel connected to it. It's okay to feel overwhelmed. And we want to make sure that we can sit in it while we need to sit in it and then move through it because success is waiting on the other side.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Right on the other side, I could not have guessed in that moment that I was feeling that right on the other side, the pots would be sold out and they would be like at the Shark Tank would be calling me. And like it was just a trajectory that led us into Walmart and Amazon and even Howie Mendel.

Growth, Faith & Entrepreneurship

SPEAKER_00

So Howie Mandel is like doing our commercial for us. So yeah, I cannot imagine, cannot imagine. It's it's been an amazing ride. And and for every um level up, there is that little small mini moment that you revisit, but it gets less and less intense.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's a it's a cycle of growth. But every time you grow, it's like, am I ready for this next thing? Absolutely. Are we prepared?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

And and it creates its own set of emotions and feelings and then comes in those waves.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And faith, faith-driven, very faith-driven. I have to say that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. I had a conversation yesterday and we were talking about faith. And they they were talking about faith, especially in any context, religious, spiritual work context, faith is action that's rooted in the belief that something is possible. That part. And we were talking about that faith is an action verb. I believe that this is possible. So I'm taking the actions based on that belief to make it possible.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. That part, you hit it. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

So I'd love to, if you have one nugget, the one thing you'd like to leave with our audience that's just any piece of advice, guidance around building a career, maybe navigating a mid-career pivot, like a lot

Career Pivots, Purpose & Freedom

SPEAKER_01

of us are. You start off on one path that you feel is your divine path, but then something calls you into something different and you are curious about taking the leap, or you're thinking about it, you're afraid you may be leaving this blue chip organization for a scrappy startup. There's something that's kind of precipitating a change. What advice would you give any of our listeners who are at that precipice?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. I would say that always continue to grow. Always be willing to seek and explore. So my my son asked me, he's like, he's so smart. He's like, What's the meaning of life? Why are we here? And I was like, We're here to discover, seek, learn, and we're here to create and explore.

SPEAKER_01

I love that. And we we're also not here to suffer. We're not here to be in a job that we don't like, we're not here to be in a space that's draining us. Like the things that we do should be enjoyable. We should find ways to build meaningful relationships, to find joy, to find purpose in our work and in our lives.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. I I one million percent believe that. Um, a lot of people ask me, do I miss it? Like, do I miss aerospace? Do I miss the job? Do I miss the nine to five? And I actually do sometimes. But you know what? I have freedom. Freedom to move, freedom to create, freedom to invent, freedom to say, let's do this harebrain idea, or let's bring this person on. It's such a like um, it's very freeing. So if and and if you have like a talent that you know you have to share with the world, you you have to

Where to Find Posie Pots

SPEAKER_00

share it. You just have to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. Well, Kate, where can everybody find you? Where can they find your product, Posey Pots? Let us know, you know, where we can find it. I think a lot of us, especially those of us without a green thumb, are really interested in trying to keep our plants alive and and bringing more green greenery into the spaces that we occupy all the time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So we are located um right in the center of St. Louis at 6439 Plymouth Avenue. But you can just hop right onto your website and go to www.posiepot.com, posypot.com. Or you can just hit Google. We're on Walmart and we're on Amazon. Just type in posypot.

SPEAKER_01

Excellent. Okay. A lot of us are gonna get those in the queue to make sure we can keep our little snake plants alive. Yes. Well, Kay, thank you so much for joining us on this episode of Gateway to Growth. We appreciate your insight, sharing your journey,

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SPEAKER_01

and you know, one you know, firm glimpse into how to master a pivot and find purpose on the other side. Hey, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you, Jamal.