{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.08,"endTime":4.46,"body":"Welcome to It's Open with Alana Glazer."},{"startTime":0.08,"endTime":4.46,"body":"My guest today is so fucking funny."},{"startTime":4.54,"endTime":6.96,"body":"He's such a ham and a motherfucking star."},{"startTime":7.04,"endTime":11.96,"body":"Jean-Marco Ciresi is"},{"startTime":7.04,"endTime":11.96,"body":"leading the wave of standup"},{"startTime":12.0,"endTime":15.28,"body":"comedians right now who are"},{"startTime":12.0,"endTime":15.28,"body":"paving their own path on YouTube."},{"startTime":16.84,"endTime":20.04,"body":"He gives this fucking"},{"startTime":16.84,"endTime":20.04,"body":"classic New York sense,"},{"startTime":20.16,"endTime":23.56,"body":"I guess because he comes from"},{"startTime":20.16,"endTime":23.56,"body":"training to be on Broadway."},{"startTime":24.0,"endTime":28.8,"body":"And he's just fucking smart and"},{"startTime":24.0,"endTime":28.8,"body":"progressive and a man who is not insecure"},{"startTime":29.0,"endTime":30.08,"body":"about his masculinity."},{"startTime":30.16,"endTime":33.2,"body":"It really is refreshing and delightful"},{"startTime":30.16,"endTime":33.2,"body":"and I think you're going to enjoy it."},{"startTime":33.44,"endTime":34.96,"body":"Come on in. 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Editor."},{"startTime":2751.21,"endTime":2752.27,"body":"I want to thank our editor."},{"startTime":2752.67,"endTime":2753.61,"body":"Tova Liebowitz."},{"startTime":2753.83,"endTime":2758.49,"body":"I also want to thank the people who made"},{"startTime":2753.83,"endTime":2758.49,"body":"this episode look and sound so good and"},{"startTime":2758.53,"endTime":2761.35,"body":"so beautiful. Kevin Deming,"},{"startTime":2758.53,"endTime":2761.35,"body":"Lexa Kreps, and Nicole Maupin."},{"startTime":2761.75,"endTime":2764.77,"body":"I want to thank Raymo Ventura for our"},{"startTime":2761.75,"endTime":2764.77,"body":"opening musical sting and beautiful"},{"startTime":2764.83,"endTime":2768.57,"body":"branding and Don Hur, the band"},{"startTime":2764.83,"endTime":2768.57,"body":"with Elliot Glazer, Jimmy Hines,"},{"startTime":2768.61,"endTime":2773.41,"body":"and Derek Murrow, all from Smithtone"},{"startTime":2768.61,"endTime":2773.41,"body":"for this outro sting. Listen, guys,"},{"startTime":2774.59,"endTime":2778.99,"body":"if you like this podcast or love this"},{"startTime":2774.59,"endTime":2778.99,"body":"video podcast on YouTube or anywhere you"},{"startTime":2779.03,"endTime":2780.59,"body":"podcast, please like and subscribe."},{"startTime":2780.61,"endTime":2785.07,"body":"It really makes the difference for if we"},{"startTime":2780.61,"endTime":2785.07,"body":"can make this show and continue to make"},{"startTime":2785.09,"endTime":2789.99,"body":"it independently and the"},{"startTime":2785.09,"endTime":2789.99,"body":"way we motherfucking want"},{"startTime":2790.15,"endTime":2794.13,"body":"for you. Listen, I hope that"},{"startTime":2790.15,"endTime":2794.13,"body":"you just have a great day."},{"startTime":2794.39,"endTime":2799.35,"body":"Take some time for yourself outside this"},{"startTime":2794.39,"endTime":2799.35,"body":"bonkers society we've created after the"},{"startTime":2799.41,"endTime":2802.51,"body":"past 100,000 years of existence."},{"startTime":2799.41,"endTime":2802.51,"body":"And just be a human today."},{"startTime":2802.77,"endTime":2805.69,"body":"You human being with you. Love you. Bye."}]}