2 Fast 2 Furious - You Wanna See Some Flamingos?

In honor of our 22nd episode, Slop Culture is proud to present its thorough critical analysis of one of the most profound entries into the most sacred wings of cinema's hallowed halls: 2 Fast 2 Furious. Enclosed within: how to run a zoo as a mafia front, drift racing in the Hague and whether you can or cannot legally make a car your wife.

And if you can...should you?

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:00

Imagine if you went to a couples therapy session, but your wife is a fucking car. Today on Slop Culture, we are reviewing the one, the only, the legendary, too fast, too furious.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

It's Bostow, baby! It's about to get ugly. Buckle up, cuh.

SPEAKER_05 0:24

Yes, welcome to Slop Culture, the happy hour podcast where we strive to see the beauty and stupidity. I am your host, Sam Sykes, and with me as always, the man who claims to be the frontman for a band called The Skewge.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Well, look.

SPEAKER_05 0:41

It's Will Palmer.

SPEAKER_01 0:43

Look, the original name we wanted was copyrighted already.

SPEAKER_02 0:47

What was it?

SPEAKER_01 0:47

The Sperm Brigade.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

The Sperm Brigade.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Like we already had some key art drawn up. It was really cool. I mean, some people said the march that we had them doing looked a little fascist. Those people were wrong.

SPEAKER_05 0:59

See, I'm I'm happy that we both went to something uh military because I was kind of I would instead of fascism, I was envisioning the sperm brigade as being like a noble doomed regiment upholding like a proud tradition.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Somebody there's wailing bagpipes in the background as the last stand.

SPEAKER_05 1:17

Yeah, they're like like it made me think of like the light brigade and how they fucking charged on cavalry into cannon fire and it didn't go so well.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

Yeah, they're all just covered and cum.

unknown 1:28

Yeah, it's just that.

SPEAKER_05 1:30

Except like this it's like the end of a fucking war movie where they're all like on the ropes and they're like, oh, oh god, like yeah, it's like Napoleon's like Imperial Guard or whatever. Yeah, fucking Joaquin Phoenix stars. Yeah. He fucking gives the performance of his lifetime. Yeah. Gets another fucking Oscar.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

Yeah, Oscar's out the wazoo, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:55

Oscar's out the wazoo, it's a fucking clean sweep, Lord of the Rings style. Launches a cinematic universe. Alright, fuck. Uh, you know what? We really we I wish we hadn't done that because today we're talking about a movie that occupies a very a very serious spot in the pantheon. In the pantheon. Uh it's not on the Mount Rushmore. It's its own thing.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

It's fucking a separate mountain that has Vin Diesel's face and Tyrese Gibson's face, Paul Walker's face.

SPEAKER_05 2:29

It's kind of like uh you know, they're not on Mount Rushmore, but it's kind of like seeing Vin Diesel's face appear in a slice of toast one day. Like that's sort of that sort of divine inspiration. Sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

Uh because really this series is I mean to me it's very exactly.

SPEAKER_05 2:48

There's there's uh there's there's a sort of sacredness to it, isn't there?

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Uh yeah, I mean I grew up in a big way like watching these movies. Like um I mean I've seen all of them several times. Um but I think the sixth one.

SPEAKER_05 3:02

But somehow you don't solve your problems with illegal street racing. Proving once again. Allegedly. Proving once again that the liberals had it wrong just because you watch Paul Walker movies is not gonna make you an illegal street racer.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

Look, Brock, it's only illegal when you get caught. Well Note to the audience that's not true. Don't use that argument ever.

SPEAKER_05 3:28

Alright, stop this. Stop this. You're blaspheming all over the name of Paul Walker.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Yo, R.I.P. for real, though. He sounds like he was the nicest fucking guy. He was a lot of fun in these movies.

SPEAKER_05 3:40

I mean, people were genuinely fucking distraught when Paul Walker passed.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

You were? Well, yeah, that like fucked up my like a couple days for me.

SPEAKER_05 3:47

Well, tell us what it was like. What did that feel like? Because you had a connection to this movie. This is my first Fast and Furious movie.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:54

I I wanted it to be special, you know. Like, not just I didn't want to just like hook up with Fast and Furious in the parking lot of a McDonald's. Like, I wanted us to get to know each other and be comfortable, and I feel like I got that.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

But maybe watch the fireworks on the London Eye.

SPEAKER_05 4:12

Yeah, yeah. Or like, you know, uh, you know, do do one of those viral selfie uh one of those viral memes where like I eat something from their plate and they're all fucking pissed off. And like, yeah, god damn it, why are you doing this? Why are you fucking putting our relationship on goddamn social media? You got I like can't anything just be us. Yeah, Paul wouldn't do that though. Paul wouldn't do that. Paul would Paul would take it with a plom.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

Yeah, uh, but no, it was uh I was in college when he passed away. Um and I remember I don't I can't remember which like friend told me, but I was hanging out with friends, and then somebody, I think somebody like burst into the room like, yo guys, like Paul Walker died. And we were all just like the fuck. Because it was just such a random thing. Like everybody assumed, like, oh Paul Walker is always basically always gonna be around because we'd grown up with those films. We'd seen The Fast and the Furious in elementary school, and then same with Too Fast, Too Furious, and then Tokyo Drift, probably in middle school, and then just kind of evolved with the series, and Paul Walker had always been such like an integral part of that, and yes, integral part of kind of a small chunk of our zeitgeist that having him like no longer be around was just like this kind of shocking thing. And he was also one of those celebrities where everything about him was just kind of nice, it was cool. Like nobody talked shit on Paul Walker because there was no reason to talk shit on Paul Walker. He was just a cool dude, and like having that get like wiped out of the world just like so abruptly was like sad for a lot of us, you know. Um like Yeah, I was gonna make like a JFK comparison, but people would think I wasn't being serious, and like I would be, but um I don't know man. I'm I I appreciate you sharing that.

SPEAKER_05 5:52

Like that was so moving that I can't ask I can't ask you to make a joke after that, so I'll do it. That was so moving that I am not even gonna get upset about you saying zeitgeist. Uh not nothing to do, nothing against the word. I just it's I've never met someone who said zeitgeist and until now, until now. I've never met someone who said just dropped zeitgeist. I'll say it this way, I've never heard a sentence where Zeitgeist was dropped, where I thought like, oh that's a I I loved hearing that. Until now. Until now. Like I'm happy that you shared that because uh well you're right there, but there is kind of like and I'm I don't want to s I'm not gonna say proud tradition, but there is kind of a proud tradition of a young, energetic male star, Hollywood star, passing abruptly. Heath Ledger, James Dean. Heath Ledger, James Dean, Ryan Dunn is who I was thinking of as well. Like, you know, because I grew up with Jackass, and it was a little shocking when it was a little shocking to hear like the thing we always thought would happen to a jack to the jackass guys actually happened to them.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Like, but it wasn't like even during Jackass, it was just something like that.

SPEAKER_05 7:12

Yeah, yeah, no, no, it it it it yeah, it felt very it felt very sad and unnerving.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

I guess that happened with Paul Walker too, in a way. Like it's it's fucking sad, you know.

SPEAKER_05 7:21

It's going to be so hard to do the two-minute recap after this on you. After this sincere and like emotional moving tribute, now I'm gonna look like an asshole because I'm the one that has to do it this time. And of course, I'm not I'm not gonna be fucking considerate about it. I'm I'm gonna be a fucking I'm gonna be a fucking asshole about this.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

I like to think that Paul Walker would understand.

SPEAKER_05 7:47

Paul Walker seems like he would he would probably be okay with it so long as like you didn't say anything mean about his car. Like, say what you will about my acting, my movies, but goddamn you keep my car's name out of your mouth. Yeah. Slap. Slap. That's what we were robbed of.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:09

We were robbed of the inevitable Oscar moment when Paul Walker would slap a host for talking about it.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

It doesn't compute. Will Smith doing it computes more than Paul Walker.

SPEAKER_05 8:22

He's very he's very laid back in this movie. He's uh almost almost offensively laid back, I'd say. But I think before we talk about this, because I ended up having a lot of emotions about this movie.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

Yeah, you've never seen A Fast and Furious. I've never seen a fast before at all.

SPEAKER_05 8:39

Before this, I was only vaguely aware of I knew the memes, and that's about it.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Now, which memes would you say were like the the ones that stick with you? You know, there's like Randy Shifting, not working the clutch like you should, that one.

SPEAKER_05 8:55

You know what? The meme I really remember, I think it's from the first Fast and Furious, where Paul Walker says to Vin Diesel, like, I almost had you. And then Vin Diesel says, You never had me, and then it says, You never had your car. And then it cuts to Paul Walker in the middle of a field, and then closes out, goes a film by M. Night Shark. That is my favorite Fast and Furious meme.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 9:25

Um But uh I this is my first experience, and I'm going to try to summarize it with as much respect as I can. Sure. And I I feel like I feel like I can do it in two minutes. It's always the two-minute recap is more of an aspiration than an exact science. Like we're just trying.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

We round up or down as needed, right?

SPEAKER_05 9:49

Round up, round down. Uh, if some sh if some important plot points get left out, well, they weren't that important then, were they? Because they didn't fit into two minutes.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

God damn straight. Um all right, are you ready? Um, yeah. Uh, and again, to the to the audience, like Sam going into this, it's wild to me that he just he has no idea about the all the interpersonal relationships cooking behind the scenes in the series. He doesn't he doesn't know about the broader timeline shenanigans. Right?

unknown 10:15

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_05 10:17

I've I feel like I'm fucking talking to a Doctor Who fan. But like it's the same energy, but it's about cars, and I think I think that might go a long way towards explaining what this what this movie is about.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

Mm-hmm. Alright.

SPEAKER_05 10:33

Alright, ready? Three, two, one, go. Paul Walker is an illegal street racer in a world where they solve most of their problems by illegal street racing. One night he's in an illegal street race when he gets arrested by White Cop, but Black Cop bails him out and says, We need you to bring down a crime lord. And Paul Walker says, Okay, I can do it. I'll be the driver for a crime lord, and I will get in on him and steal his drug money for you. And he says, But I gotta have my own guy, and his own guy is Tyrese Gibson, back then known as Tyrese, and they both become illegal street racers, and they go to the bad guy and say, We want to be illegal street drivers for you. And he says, Alright, but you gotta do something illegal first, and they do it, and then he they get let in on the plot where they have to drive money from a trailer to a plane to because the cartel is having real trouble getting money out of Miami at this point. It's not quite explained why, it's just that's just the prop the premise. Anyways, uh there's a lot of really attractive people, and there's a girl who's into Paul Walker, but Paul Walker's only into his car. And at the end of the movie, they drive cars really fast with the intent of stealing bad guys' money, and the bad guy says, Don't you fucking screw me, because I'm gonna use a rat to torture a guy, and then he does, but they decide to betray him, anyways. Uh, and then the chick who's interested in Paul Walker gets taken onto a yacht, and he's like, No, I can't leave her. He ramps his car off a pier, and because this is the bad guy's yacht, and the bad guy is trying to escape, and he crashes his car in the yacht, and this somehow solves things. So white cop says, I didn't think you could do it, and black cop says, I always knew you could do it. And then they said, We gotta go. Our records are clean now because we did crimes before this. That's our whole motive.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Alright, two minutes and eight seconds, so pretty good, pretty close.

SPEAKER_05 12:47

That's not too bad. I only had one more thing to say, and that at the end they also steal some money.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

I mean, that's to be expected.

SPEAKER_05 12:53

That's about it. Like, I feel like I got all the beats on that. Like, I feel like I was quite respectful. I didn't once, I didn't once bring up how how Paul Walker reacts to a lot of things in this movie.

unknown 13:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 13:08

That I found very funny.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

Yeah, he's uh he takes things in stride, I'll say.

SPEAKER_05 13:12

He take he takes a lot of things in stride. He does not seem particularly bothered about being at the nexus of a criminal conspiracy, which if you're going to be at the nexus of a criminal conspiracy, that's a great way to be.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:26

Just to just be calm about it, just be cool about it.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

He takes things day by day. It's very obvious that, you know.

SPEAKER_05 13:32

We need we need to be clear. This is this is a movie. This is a movie where crime is sexy. Like only sexy crimes get committed. Uh uh, even the torch.

SPEAKER_06 13:42

Nobody's shitting in public.

SPEAKER_05 13:43

Even the rat torch. Yeah, like nobody's getting their balls busted, like James Bond. Nobody's getting like uh lasered in the balls like James Bond.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

Uh, we're making a good point here.

SPEAKER_05 13:54

Nobody nobody's getting like fucking uh their toes broken or anything, you know, like everything crime here is very attractive, and only attractive people are criminals. Like there's no there's no meth users, there's no like desperate junkies, there's it's all it's all very sexy.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Yeah, and cars are exclusively cool. They're never annoyed, they never like fuck you over randomly.

SPEAKER_05 14:19

Yes, yes, cars suffers badly from a crash, and somehow the Miami police department has enough funding to buy two ultra fast nitrous oxide-powered cars. Right.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

When they'd already spent so much money on their electro electromagnetic harpoon gun pulse launcher. Yeah, are those real? No, no, not at all. They looked it up. Even on the Fast and Furious wiki, it says it's not real. Oh, that makes me so happy.

SPEAKER_05 14:50

Yeah, they just made that shit entirely until the whole the whole reason Paul Walker gets arrested in the first place is because White Cop has a bazooka that shoots you an electric grappling claw that makes cars stop.

SPEAKER_08 15:08

It's just like a magic fucking spell. It's so funny.

SPEAKER_05 15:14

Like I I like, alright. Um I told Will before we started this, like I I was more emotionally moved by this movie than I thought I would be.

SPEAKER_06 15:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 15:27

And as a result, I I do want to go quite deep because we are a happy hour podcast, and most of the time that just means we're both drinking as we're talking about movies.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

But sometimes happy hours fucking deep.

SPEAKER_05 15:42

But some not all happy hours are happy.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

Some of them are somber affairs.

SPEAKER_05 15:47

Some of them are somber affairs, such as the one that followed uh Paul Walker's Untimely Passing and the drinks we all raised to Saint Paul. Here's to you. Here's to you, St. Paul. Here's to you, St. Paul. But um I do want to be respectful of it, but I asked Will. I'm like, we have to joke about some of this shit because otherwise, the case. I just felt wow.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

Pun intentional.

SPEAKER_05 16:19

Uh this movie actually seemed to have launched a uh film career for Ludacris, so you know.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

I believe it's kind of important to there was somebody, I forget who it was, but there's another actor who was offered the role first and turned it down. It might have been another rapper. Ja Rule. Ja Rule.

SPEAKER_05 16:34

Ja Rule, Ja Rule. What does Ja think? We'll never know.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Uh so I can only imagine Luda Luda as uh Tej in these movies, though. He owns that role so completely.

SPEAKER_05 16:43

Yeah, no, he he fit that role so good. Uh Ludacris plays Tej, who is uh a mechanic who also runs illegal street racing races and illegal jet ski races. Yeah, there's no there's actually no indication that the jet ski races he oversees are illegal, but I I kind of assume that everything they do is illegal.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

Tej doesn't seem like a big paperwork guy.

SPEAKER_05 17:09

No, no, just like straight up everything like he's not going through the the games commission for this.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Yeah, he doesn't file a bunch of shit at the the local courthouse for closing local intersections.

SPEAKER_05 17:19

So I want to oh normally we talk about uh the main the main character, the hero of the movie. That's normally the our first topic of conversation. This time, I feel like I want to talk more about the Fast and the Furious franchise in general.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 17:37

Because I do feel like this is a bit of a momentous occasion, right?

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Yeah, well, you you haven't watched any of these movies at all. And this one is also different than a lot of the others, but kind of the same in some ways. The structure is kind of similar, but a lot of the character interactions are, you know, they're putting totally new characters into the universe, right? Yeah. Like Tej and Roman, like they weren't in the first movie, right? They're not really our yeah, really our only major connection to the first movie is Brian.

SPEAKER_05 18:04

I kind of appreciate that though. Like, that was the way of old movies, like before cinematic universes and like sequels had to tell like a chronological story. Yeah. Most of the time it was just, you know, a new fucking adventure. And like with oh, here's my childhood friend I never told anyone about. Like, we'll let's get together. Like, I I appreciated that.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Um Yeah, it's set in like in the opposite side of the country. The first movie's in LA, the second one's you know, Miami.

SPEAKER_05 18:30

That's the those are the only place Miami as hell. It does feel like specifically sleazy Miami.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

Like Yeah, you get a real sense of humidity from like the daytime scenes, you know?

SPEAKER_05 18:39

Yeah. Um, it does look quite muggy a lot of the time, which is probably why everyone is very scantily clad in this. Like this was it's it's hard to imagine a movie like this.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

Oh, the women are scantily clad. The guys are wearing classic like early 2000s, everything's oversized together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there are only two. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:00

Like there are only two kinds of people in this in this uh world. You're either extremely hot chicks who are always, you know, fucking showing a ton of skin, including the cops. Like on like the cops are also hot in this movie, which is unusual. Or you're just like a fucking buff, swagged out dude wearing fucking khakis and fucking chains. Like, those are the only two people who live in Florida. Yeah, and and exactly one fat guy.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Yeah, one fat guy and then the bad guy who wears a suit.

SPEAKER_05 19:37

Only one fat guy and one guy wearing a suit, and that that's the entire population of Florida of Miami, Florida.

SPEAKER_06 19:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 19:46

Uh, so I ended up, like I said, being weirdly moved by this movie. Like, I I set out uh wanting to understand.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

What was your mindset going into this, right? Like, because you knew it from the memes, but you probably didn't know this movie specifically from the memes. It was more like the first movie and some of the franchise.

SPEAKER_05 20:05

I wanted I wanted to start with Too Fast, Too Furious because A, the title alone was very memeable. Like when it came out, everyone thought that was the funniest fucking thing they ever heard. Um yeah. Like we used to fucking bust each other's balls. Like if they were like if if someone like bumped into someone in the in the halls at college, like you'd shout too fast, too furious.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

I literally have been there.

SPEAKER_05 20:28

Yeah. Back then that was funny. But obviously, people prefer more ironic. Uh well, but that was ironic back then. It was just our irony was did not have so many layers. It was a simpler it was a simpler time with the case.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

You're at the beginning of the circle of irony, right? Yes, now that shit's rotated so many times.

SPEAKER_05 20:46

It was it was the bronze age of irony, not the iron, not the iron age. Uh so my mindset going into this was I wanted to understand. Like, that's kind of the goal of all of this podcast. Like, any fucking anyone can say, oh, it's good, oh it's bad. Like, that's boring.

SPEAKER_06 21:04

I want I wanted ways.

SPEAKER_05 21:06

I yes, exactly. What's it trying to do? And why do people like it? Like, why do people like this? Because people fucking like Fast and Furious. Like, peep and it seems to be made by people who like Fast and Furious. So, like, it's one of those very rare just weird, not weird, like passion projects, but you know, like obviously they make a ton of money too.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Um every time I think I've talked to you about it, I always gush about these movies, and you probably never really understood like the allele, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 21:40

Well, you know, because that's that's what our fucking podcast is about, right? Like we we from the outside, uh Fast and Furious looked kind of fucking silly. It seem like you know, it's about fucking the rock driving a Jeep out of a plane. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Uh and like it's a little more ridiculous than that, but clearly.

SPEAKER_05 22:00

I understand. I understand. We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there one day. But like, you know, it's about doing crazy shit with cars. Like, on the outside, you're not quite sure what the allure is. So, like, I wanted to find out why people liked it so much. Like, why people were so emotionally invested in this. And weirdly, I feel like I found out within the first fucking five minutes of the movie. Like, this movie is just so entirely sure of what it is and what it's trying to do. Uh, like we we talk about confidence in movies a lot, right? Like, yeah. That's probably like my the most as in people, it's the most alluring trait a movie can have is to know who it is and uh what it's trying to do. Because at that point, like you either take it or leave it, right? Like if and you know, for a long time I left it. I I am not a car guy. I have been there is a car show that used to go on around near my house, but it was in the parking lot of a target.

SPEAKER_06 23:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 23:08

And people were not not as attractive. I'm not gonna say anyone was super ugly, but like it I feel like the the car crowds in the car show crowds in co in Scottsdale are vastly different than the illegal street racing cloud in Miami town in Miami, Florida. Um but like I said, uh and I know we both want to talk about this, uh I I got weirdly into the movie like right off the bat. Like with I'm not a big race car guy. I'm not a car guy. Nor am I.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

You know, I've had several friends who are super into cars, so I have some adjacent experience, but I can appreciate it for sure.

SPEAKER_05 23:53

Like and I think it's probably actually a pretty good skill to have is to know a lot about something you use almost every day of your life. Uh unless you live in New York like an asshole. Uh sorry. Sorry, New York, I know you've suffered, but we're we're just we're just gonna rub it in a little. We call it like we see it. We call it like we see it, New York, you fucking public transportation loving sex of shit.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

But for a car movie, I think it's remarkably approachable.

SPEAKER_05 24:28

Yes, and I feel like it's that confidence that gives it approachability because this is not just like a li this is not just a car movie, this is car pornography, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:42

Like extraordinarily.

SPEAKER_05 24:44

I I wanted I wanted to talk more about how fucking how I got it, but like I want to talk about the cinematography and about I described this movie to you as a pornography, a pornographic movie, except every time they have a sex scene, it's cars. It's a race scene instead. Like the acting is on a similar level. The plot is like a little more complicated, but honestly, still pretty straightforward. It's a lot of like happenstance motivations, and you know, Paul Walker, rest his soul, uh, he's he's he's not helping. He does kind of he does kind of have like and I mean this with I mean this, I don't mean this to be mean, I'm just saying he has kind of like guy in a porn movie range, you know, like you're gonna put that shit on the man who starred in brick mansions, dude.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Not in my fucking house. But yeah, I know Paul Walker's uh like he he just kind of wafts, right?

SPEAKER_05 25:46

Through Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, you know, obviously the point of the movie is the cars, but uh I I said I wanted to break this up with jokes. And I want to say the I the the very idea of illegal street racing really tickles me. Like it's the idea of some ca something being like uh exciting and underground. I get I get why underground street racing is fucking sexy.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Yeah. Underground street parkour also is sexy.

SPEAKER_05 26:22

I wanna only not everything is sexy if you do if it's underground.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

Underground street chess.

SPEAKER_05 26:29

It's underground street chess would be a lot.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

That would be kind of tight, dude.

SPEAKER_05 26:34

Just fucking like endless, endless sluts and fucking hunks just fucking squaring off over it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Ludacris is like very quietly and respectfully narrating oh, he's gonna do the pawn for Eve.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

Underground illegal golf. Yeah, putt-putt.

SPEAKER_05 26:53

Illegal putt-putt? Like I fucking. Guy fucking whiffs it on the clown, on the clown mouth. Yeah, I fucking shoot him right there. Actually, I I don't think anyone died in this movie. No, wait, one guy did. He got he got run over by a semi, but like we don't know.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

Yeah, wow, you're that's an excellent point, though. There's getting winged or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 27:18

And there's like there's violence, but nobody really dies. Like, not even the bad guy dies. He just gets his yacht destroyed by a car. A flying car.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Which I mean I mean, it makes for a great gif. I've seen that gift to you before, I think, where they're flying through the air, like you had to nail the landing as closely as you can.

SPEAKER_05 27:40

I I I wrote this in our notes. Everyone is constantly shouting woo-hoo when they do this when you're driving around. I wouldn't. I feel that kind of cheapens it, you know, like I feel I feel like if you're really trying to absorb the the lesson.

SPEAKER_07 28:00

Of the rubber meeting the road.

SPEAKER_05 28:01

Of the rubber meeting the road. If you're really trying to commune with St. Paul, well, no, like St. Paul, he he was he was doing a lot of woo-hooing as well. I don't know. I just to me something like your back, huh? Like, to me, that says to the audience, like, oh no, you can enjoy this. Like, don't have don't don't treat this with any stakes.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

So like you're having fun too, you know.

SPEAKER_05 28:24

It offends my dramatic sensibilities, but the very sentence saying too fast, too furious offends my dramatic sensibilities. Like, I feel like if I said that.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

Someone should slap you for that.

SPEAKER_05 28:35

I feel like not just slap me, like I feel like if I said that in a bar, like I would just be on the ground, curled over, every everyone fucking surrounds me and just pounds me over the fucking head with like bar stools.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Yeah, like a Roman decimation. They would just blood.

SPEAKER_05 28:51

Like, yeah, exactly. Like, and fucking sew me up inside a fucking uh uh horse afterwards. Oh Jesus! Fucking throw the horse in a river, and like I like months later it washes up on shore, and I like punch my way out of the of the decomposing horse that I've been eating just to stay alive. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

The salted drowned horse.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

I fucking crawl out onto the shore and I'm like and I'm like, you know what?

SPEAKER_07 29:24

I've reconsidered my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

I was gonna actually I stand by that. I stand by my and they lead up another horse, like, alright, you know the deal.

SPEAKER_05 29:34

Like at that point, a a crocodile leaps out and just drags me under.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

Like, I just I I've offended nature with the crocodile is wearing like a fast five cutoff.

SPEAKER_04 29:48

And then I get into the under the world of underground.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Underwater street racing.

SPEAKER_04 29:54

Underwater street racing where I have to fucking race a crocodile. Oh Jesus, and he's the crocodile is played by uh fucking Jason Statham. Oh no!

SPEAKER_05 30:09

And he's got a spin-off movie called The Crocodile where he's a where he's a fucking crocodile at a zoo. It's a prequel. Crocodile drift? He's a creep crocodile at a zoo, but the zoo gets threatened by some mafia. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

We're trying to try to try to turn it into a I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 30:33

I know, I know I'm fucking much like Paul Walker. Oh, I'm not gonna say it. No, I have to now.

SPEAKER_06 30:41

Do it.

SPEAKER_05 30:42

Much like Paul Walker, I'm getting a little off track. Yo, I knew that was fucking coming. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 30:53

Forgive, forgive me, Saint Paul.

SPEAKER_05 30:55

But no, I just fucking delighted. I like I just I went from delighting myself to delighting myself there. Like the minute I said Mafia Zoo.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

Hey, that's an awful nice panda exhibit you got there. Be ashamed if something happened to it.

SPEAKER_05 31:10

Well, like have you ever have you ever like been hanging around a city and like you go into a a restaurant and like nobody's there and there's like a suspiciously tough looking guy at the host table, and you're like, oh, like it's probably a mafia front?

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Yeah, like I've seen the Sopranos, I know why that's it.

SPEAKER_05 31:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that, but like a fucking zoo, you know?

SPEAKER_04 31:31

Like fuck it, fuck it. You wanna see some flamingos or what?

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Oh Yeah, they're turning the zebras into Gabago in the back.

SPEAKER_04 31:45

They're serving me zebra meat back here. Oh, fuck!

SPEAKER_05 31:49

Hey, oh I I feel like I've betrayed the premise of this joke. It fucking snuck up on me. Like, hey, is that a fucking koala? I gotta tell you, uh koala's best in the city.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Hey, I think the chimpanzees was doing some queer stuff. We don't we don't play that around here.

SPEAKER_04 32:08

Hey, fucking would you get in there?

SPEAKER_05 32:11

What's the matter with you? We got an image to maintain here. Yeah, we'll see how we'll see how how smug you are once I come back. Once I come back there, pal. Hey, Paulie, get his wallet. I need you to send a message to this chimp.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Oh, gee, I don't know, boss. It looks pretty cranky.

SPEAKER_05 32:34

I started this train of thought by saying I wanted to fucking talk about the sacredness of the Fast and the Furious. And I fucking I I fucking ran off into the weeds and chased a fantasy about a zoo run by the mafia. I feel like it's only right that we talk about the real uh important part of this movie.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

Yeah, as someone who your only experience of the Fast and the Furious is this film and the memes, but still you're you're starting to under you're starting to believe.

SPEAKER_05 33:08

Yes, this is when I became a believer, is in the very first scene, there's an illegal street race run by Ludacris. Yep. Uh and the uh there's a I I want to give a brief shout out. This movie had one of my very favorite tropes, okay, which is that the illegal activity is multi-ethnic.

SPEAKER_06 33:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 33:31

There's a lot of white people, a lot of Hispanic people, a lot of black people, even a few Asians. A few prominent Asians, in fact. This was this movie was about this movie was a chairman.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Yeah, that's gonna lose us some audience. Fuck.

SPEAKER_08 33:47

Stop! I try to fucking talk about you're putting Chairman Chi Fucking Pollock.

SPEAKER_05 34:04

Honor this chairman. What's his character?

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Where does he fit in? Uh well they just call him the chairman. Um and he he hasn't raced in years. He like retired basically because he nobody was good enough to even like race him anymore. He like lost interest. He got bored basically. But then when Brian comes in town and like beats like a bunch of people, the chairman, you know, he gets interested again.

SPEAKER_05 34:24

He implements wide-sweeping land reform.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

Orders people to kill the five pests. Everyone's like smashing sparrows with hammers.

SPEAKER_04 34:34

He implements the Belt and Road policy and makes major headways into Africa. And that's the second half of the movie.

unknown 34:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

And that's how it segues into Tokyo Drift, is because they actually didn't know the difference between the. Yes, I keep interrupting you. You're a first opening scene, multi-ethnic gangs doing a street race.

SPEAKER_05 35:02

Multi-ethnic gangs, multi-ethnic raiders, racers, but they need a fourth. And Paul Walker shows up to be their fourth racer. The from the word go, I fucking I fell in love with this scene. And not not because it was action-packed or anything. Like, there's there have been a ton more a ton of other racing scenes that I have felt more emotionally arrested by. Like this was beauty, you know. Like, I I'm I'm trying not to get too too artsy fartsy about it, but like I genuinely thought that there was some very deliberate and sincere aesthetic in the street race. It was because we I and we wanted to talk about this. Um just to describe this race, everyone has a different colored car, for one, and it it kind of matches their temperament. You've got this super fucking chill dude, uh this chill black dude who's right rocking this orange racer. You've got fucking Devin Aoki playing Suki in a bright pink like Barbie car. Bright pink Barbie car with a little screen playing anime on it, like like that you maybe not. You maybe you couldn't do that today. I don't know. That seems like it's insulting a very a very narrow minority, but yeah, uh and also um you know you have you have uh another favorite trope of mine is uh the this fiery red Hispanic racer who's always crossing himself.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

He's doing like occasional nods to Catholicism.

SPEAKER_05 36:45

Yeah, like I can't help but really like that uh that trope of the Hispanic dude who is weirdly Catholic about a lot of things. Like you know, like he does not have any qualms about uh about illegal street racing, he but he does want to be like mindful of of what God sees. Like I find I find that very alluring, but he's got this bright red racer. Paul shows up, everyone has all these like individual colors that complement each other so well, and you see their lights like streaking down this vast racetrack, you know, all the streets of Miami emptied to become completely empty, they're not even trying to cover the intersection.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:28

There's just no traffic. Like, of course, it requires a lot of disbelief, but that's you know, that's fucking uh fast and furious.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Like, if you're gonna come in and complain about the circumstances of the illiterate, come in here and bitch about traffic right the fuck out.

SPEAKER_05 37:42

Get the fuck out of here. Now it's you who's going into the horse.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

Uh but like the horse of shame.

SPEAKER_05 37:49

And you mentioned this. Do you want to say something about the cinematography?

SPEAKER_01 37:52

Yeah, um, something that and I'd seen this movie probably three times before at various stages of my life, but this time, you know, I was viewing it with a not a mean critical eye, but you know, a more critical, like uh analytical eye, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 38:05

Critical, analytical.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Yeah, something I noticed during History, especially.

SPEAKER_05 38:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Uh was um just the the choice of camera angles and zooms really reminded me of um old western showdowns, you know, in the good, the bad and the ugly. Yeah. Like at the f final duel, I won't tell you who wins, but there's uh constant kind of tension building shifts. Oh, it's good, bad, and ugly, really. Depends how you look at it. Um But um they're you know, zooming in on the participants' eyes, they're zooming in on what their hands are doing, you know, tap the butts of their gun or you know, do a quick uh gear shift.

SPEAKER_05 38:42

Um there's there's there's very like little actual footage that looks like an actual race, you know. Like there's very few shots of the of actually zoomed out and watching the cars go. Most of it is like very deliberate perspective shots, like a tight close-up on their eyes, or like watching their hands. Or of course, like that fucking great thing. Like, I admit I'm a fucking sucker for this trope. Fucking like a close-up on the fucking speed gauge is it's like and then like it reaches the end, and it's fucking like just trembling there, like, oh god, I can't do it anymore.

SPEAKER_01 39:17

Like, yeah, and then um like the moment where they draw their pistols basically is when they push the not the nos button. They'll go from like their head to head and they're looking at each other, and then one of them goes too early, and the other one lets them go, and then then he noses.

SPEAKER_05 39:29

Yeah, and like and like so many of the races are like that. I in my opinion, that's the best scene, that's the best race. Like the opening one, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

That's the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 39:39

The opening one, and like like it's kind of funny because it well no, it actually sets up the rest of the movie. I'm sorry. I was about to say, like, it it doesn't add a lot to the rest of the movie, but no, it actually sets up the rest of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

It ties back in with like Brian is interacting with the organium.

SPEAKER_05 39:53

Yeah, yeah, no, like like I I have to eat those words as soon as I said them. But uh you know, a recurring theme on this podcast, Will, is that we have we we praise perverts here and that a lot of films are made by perverts.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

And we're talking about like fun perverts, not Roman Blancki for the record. Just being clear, right? Like we we don't want anybody to get the wrong impression. Fucking Chairman She.

SPEAKER_05 40:24

This is when he taps out. He's like, he's fucking takes off his headphones like I can't stand it when they're tasteless like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Like, oh, this edgy fucking getting an angry letter from from the official like CCCP like knock it the fuck off. Yeah. It was fine when you head cannon the chairman into the racing film. What was not okay were your tasteless comments.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

Show some fucking respect, you claws. This is this is Paul Walker we're talking about.

SPEAKER_05 41:00

But like you know, our specific definition of perversion is someone who's just really into this shit, like to a degree where it becomes visceral, aesthetic, pageantry is another word we use a lot. And like, there is so much deliberate thought put into not only like cars, but like suggestive, like erotic. Like I know I'm fu I feel like I'm fucking stretching stretching.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

But the camera's like rubbing its hands along the lines of the cars, you know?

SPEAKER_05 41:32

Like, yeah, yeah, like it was exactly that's that's a perfect way to put it is like the fucking camera was caressing these cars. And like it was all the all the shots were designed to like it enhance emotion, you know, very peek at the naughty bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So little of this was just like, oh, look at the cool car. That's like obviously there were some shots where like, yeah, absolutely, look at this cool.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

Yeah, but that was secondary, though, it felt like secondary.

SPEAKER_05 41:59

More it's like like look at the passion of this race, look at the fucking tools that they use. This is look at their mastery of the Yeah, yeah, this is this is gladiators, this is gladiators with fucking cars, this is Ninja Warrior, but with cars. But you get what I'm saying, like I was in from the word fucking go, and like because of that scene, because it came off with such fucking artistic strength, you know? That was fucking crazy to me. I I wasn't expecting that. I was not expecting and we we talk about this as well. Like, you know, the phenomenon of meeting someone who is into something you aren't into, but the more you hear them talk about it, the more you kind of are into it, you know?

SPEAKER_01 42:44

Like and like it rubs off that enthusiasm.

SPEAKER_05 42:47

Yeah, like maybe it only lasts for as long as you meet that person, you know? Like, maybe you uh meet some person at a bar who fucking can't get enough of uh butterfly collecting.

unknown 42:58

Sure.

SPEAKER_05 42:58

And they and like for that evening, you are a butterfly fan because this person is talking-that's what it felt like. It's like I'm I still don't think I'm a car guy, but for this movie, I was a car guy, you know? There was something very connective about this movie. Is like that's that's the that's the kind of high I'm chasing, you know? Like when a movie is so fun and so fucking sure of itself that like I'm a fan of whatever bullshit it's doing for this for this long. And like maybe I maybe that carries over and maybe it doesn't, but like I fucking loved whatever it was. Like fucking I feel like we used to have this a lot in like movies of the 90s and eighties and stuff, like you know, fucking uh everyone was a sci fi fan for Terminator, you know? Okay, like not everybody went on to be like, you know, love Star Trek and shit, but like everyone was such a fan of Terminator that they absolutely bought into the time travel.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Yeah, everybody loved that future war shit with the big purple lasers and they're driving the truck around in the ruins. Yeah, it was tight.

SPEAKER_05 44:06

And it fucking set the tone for like, you know, like a lot of how we talk about AI today is references Skynet and Terminators, right? Like we we talk about that a lot because that was kind of the point of Terminator movie of the Terminator movies is that at one point AI will try to kill us. Uh but because so many people were into it, we you know, now it's part of the cultural conversation.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Yeah, I mean it's yeah, I'll be back. Like it's such a integral, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

So this is kind of that for cars, is what you're saying.

SPEAKER_05 44:38

This is kind of that for cars, yeah. Like it's I would say like most people probably know what nitrous is now. Yeah, and probably because of this fucking movie. Like But that was my experience with it.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

And I was curious uh to ask too, going into it, um, what did you expect for the plot? Did you think it was mostly gonna be street racing, or did you think it was gonna get this far into like the crime undercover?

SPEAKER_05 45:02

No, no, I knew I knew it was crime. Like my impression has always been that these are heist movies where 90% of the heist is the getaway.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Like Yeah, yeah, close to that, they get more ridiculous in the like they use the cars in the heist themselves, though.

SPEAKER_05 45:20

Yeah, I mean that's what that's what I mean, is like, you know, like the fucking the cars are the are the demo man, the cars are the brains, the cars are the getaway, uh it's all of it. You're being hired by a car to steal a car, they're being hired by a car to steal a car for another car, they fall in love with a car, uh, another car betrays them, there's a kind of a car love triangle, and that's how we got the movie cars.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

Um could you see this taking place in the same universe as the transporter? At the same time. Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 45:50

Absolutely. It's my belief that like all Jason Statham movies are part of the same universe, and it's just Jason Statham working different jobs. Right, you're going from Uber driver to like today, Jason's like this at this point in Jason Statham's life, he drove cars. At this point, he fucking was a construction worker.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

Yeah, he's a managing an industrial loop.

SPEAKER_05 46:14

Yeah, now he's now he's managing now he's now that's why he's bald, is because his hair got caught in it. Oh that's a deep cut.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

Yeah, for all our industrial revolution fans out there.

SPEAKER_05 46:26

Yeah. Now he fucking you know runs a dog grooming salon out of his vein that has nights of songs. I I I love the idea that fucking like Jason Statham just exists in this world where he just moves from job to job but keeps like ending up in the same shit. Like every movie is about him having a blue-collar job, but he's got like a secret badass background, and then some people mess with him who shouldn't mess with him, and then he fucking unloads on them, and then at the end, like he moves on like to the next job. That's what I'm hoping, and like I don't care what anyone says, that's just that's how I envision the Statham verse working. Uh speaking of having sex with cars, sure.

SPEAKER_06 47:12

Great segue.

SPEAKER_05 47:14

I want to talk about this because this struck me as very interesting. I want to use this to segue into talking about a little more about Paul Walker's performance. But um you know, we talk a lot about sexual stakes on this podcast. You know, we talk about important chemistry, how people feel about each other, um, how like characters having desire and how that desire is acted upon. And on the surface, you would expect this this movie sends out a lot of telegraphs of sexual stakes, like the skimpy costumes, everyone's so fucking hot.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

Uh there's a lot of like a 360-degree camera pan around a crowd that's just at ass level.

SPEAKER_05 48:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like every like it's there's just there's no ugly people in crime in Miami. Like they're not allowed crime is exclusively done by hotties. And like, you know, there's all this casual touching, and there's all this fucking innuendo, like fucking Suki gets her car wrecked, and Ludacris is like, hey, bring that body around, uh, and we're gonna work on that front end of yours. And she's like, I maybe I will if you have the right tools. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

But it's all weirdly sexless, like you don't get the sense that they're actually gonna fuck when they can't imagine those two characters fucking. And I'm great.

SPEAKER_05 48:40

You can't really feel it, which is weird because they're both very attractive, very well-dressed people, but they kind of like it it kind of feels like it's their job to make innuendo at each other, and they're just fucking co-workers. Like, like uh, and I mentioned this, you know, like there's a scene where they go into a nightclub and it's more of the same, like just total hotties everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 48:59

Damn, it's a hoasis in here. It's a hoasis in here, which is an actual line.

SPEAKER_05 49:04

An actual line, and actually not that fucking bad.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

Like no, that's that was a heater.

SPEAKER_05 49:09

That's a pr that's a pretty good one, uh, from Stephen Reed for sure. Uh but like Paul Walker doesn't notice them at all. And like there's a love he has a love interest in this movie. And they kiss at one point, but it's oh shit, they do.

SPEAKER_01 49:23

I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_05 49:23

There's no yeah, you forgot about that because it's not even the most important thing going on in the fucking scene. Like, nope. Like, and they forget about it instantly, and at the end, like they don't hook up or anything, she just goes on her own way.

SPEAKER_01 49:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 49:37

And like, like, everyone's hot.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

Uh there's no sparks between the hot objects.

SPEAKER_05 49:43

There's no fucking chemistry. There's no uh sexual chemistry.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

There's no there's brochemistry for sure.

SPEAKER_05 49:50

Yes, well, I wanted to say, um, yeah, like the most chemistry in the fucking movie is between Paul Walker and Tyrese. And like, you know, they're they're partners in crime on this, and they've got a they've got a rough history. Like Tyrese has been to jail, he doesn't trust cops. Um Paul Walker Paul Walker was a cop, and they slowly learn to like each other or trust each other again. Uh, but like there's a lot of like fucking actual like chemistry between them.

SPEAKER_01 50:20

Like fucking You buy that they're friends.

SPEAKER_05 50:22

You buy that they're friends, they have ups and downs, they have a complicated relationship between them, yeah. And the more complicated it is, the more you want it. And like, uh, I know we talked about this in uh fucking uh Expendables 2. I don't want to use this phrase again. Like Expendables 2 was homoerotic, right?

SPEAKER_01 50:42

Like that's because it it was fucking like turn around cheap, and he's like looking with a fucking chain.

SPEAKER_08 50:49

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 50:51

I'll man you up.

SPEAKER_08 50:52

Turn around cheap.

SPEAKER_01 50:54

Yeah, yeah. Like, damn. Turn around shot him pressed up against a chain link fence in like a dark base. In a fucking like little tank top like, yeah, they like rented out the kink.com warehouse for that scene.

SPEAKER_05 51:08

Yeah, and fucking like there's all this sensual cutting and knifing. Yeah, dude. That was very homoerotic. I this was not homoerotic. This was but this was not platonic. This was not platonic. And I put it between homoerotic and platonic, well, between intimate and platonic, let's say, there is there is bro. Like the bro is a very like it it breaks my fucking heart that today bro is seen as kind of derogatory, you know, like bro. Oh, he doesn't respect people, he's a jerk, he's a party boy, he's a fuck boy. No, bro, is that very special spot where you are connected to another person based on very little.

SPEAKER_01 51:54

Like, yeah, but you still like you're down to like shotgun a beer and then have a last stand with that guy. Yeah, yeah, like you're gonna back to back fighting the alien hordes, like you're both smoking a cigar, and you're both fucking get this. Yeah, you're gonna die, but you're you're dying together, goddammit.

SPEAKER_05 52:10

Yeah, like and you're gonna fucking say something crazy like, these extraterrestrials are about to be buried in the terrestrial.

SPEAKER_00 52:21

And your friend looks at you kind of confused before.

SPEAKER_05 52:24

But because you're a bro, you let that slide because you know you know what he was trying to say. Like, bro is understanding, it's acknowledging the complexities of human experiences.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

Kind of ignoring those in favor of just like fuck yeah, I got your back.

SPEAKER_05 52:41

Like yeah, yeah, yeah. And like that works here, but like there's most of the eroticism is on the cars. And there's something like there's something, and I swear to god, this is the artsy fartiest I will get. There's something kind of beautiful. Like I've I I mentioned this, I feel like Fast and the Furious might be like a meditation on the nature of love and relationships.

SPEAKER_01 53:06

Right, they don't want to fuck these cars. They want to make it a lot of things.

SPEAKER_05 53:08

They don't want to fucking they want to build a life with these cars. Yeah, they want to do better for these cars.

SPEAKER_01 53:14

Like it's pornographic filming, but it's like one of those classy pornos where they have like the good lighting and it's like.

SPEAKER_05 53:18

Well, there's fucking meaning behind it because these guys are always very clear like, I will take care of my car, I will treat it very well, and then the car will do well by me. And there's something very beautiful about that.

SPEAKER_01 53:31

And lo and behold, at the end, the car crashes itself into a yacht.

SPEAKER_05 53:35

The car sacrifices itself so that Paul Walker can enjoy a few more seconds of awkward, sexless romance with a woman he immediately forgets about.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 53:51

Uh but like, yeah, there's there's something kind of profoundly intimate about their relationship with cars, and like, yeah, that's also a thought that's gonna get me fucking sewn up into a horse, but I felt like it's kind of true. Like, this movie works because the people who make it genuinely fucking love the idea of using very fast cars to commit crimes. Yeah, to solve life's problems life's problems, and I think that's extremely funny. It is sort of like a philosophical take on Mario Kart.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

Okay, let's let's unpack that a little bit. Mario Kart, to you, what is Mario Kart?

SPEAKER_05 54:27

Mario Kart is a situation in which all all of life's ambitions are culminated into a race. Like our relationships are defined by this race, our identities are defined by this race. It's not the whole of us, but there is a moment in which racing is both the identity and the expression.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

The prism through which we view our own selves. A solipsistic view of my technology. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 55:03

But no, like, yeah, it I mean, yeah, this is a movie in which genuinely all of life's problems are solved by illegal street racing. And I I think that's fucking funny. Like every part of their plan involves illegal street racing. That fucking rules. That fucking rules. Like, I absolutely love that they solve everything by illegal street racing. And like, you know, never a general like there's a point where they gotta get two cars, you know? Yep. Like to to they got to get two more cars to pull off their heist.

SPEAKER_01 55:34

Do they steal these? Do they have the police that they're working for give them a few years?

SPEAKER_05 55:37

Do they just fucking buy them or you know, mention to the cops that they're working for, like, hey, we need to get two extra cars. Could you get that for us? No, they don't do that. They fucking challenge two weirdos to a to a street race for their cars, and they win.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

And they win.

SPEAKER_05 55:51

And they win. And then they get a job by illegal street racing, they get out of the job by illegal street racing. By street racing, yeah. It's it's and that's why that's why, dude, that's why the sexual chemistry isn't there because all the tension mistakes love cannot be solved by illegal street racing.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Well, you say that.

SPEAKER_05 56:13

I haven't seen the other movies yet. They didn't try. Oh, that's true. That's true. Maybe that comes up later. You'd be surprised. That is as artsy fartsy as I want to get. I I desperately beg you, please change the topic to something I can be funnier about.

SPEAKER_01 56:29

Well, first, you ever play the Need for Speed games?

SPEAKER_05 56:32

I didn't. I'm I'm not a racing guy, like, even with games.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

Um That's fair. I have uh I don't know if I've told you this, but I have uh purchased and use a uh uh like a wheel, steering wheel and pedal system with my PSVR2 to play Gran Turismo. That sounds fucking fun. Yeah, I uh I got like a manual stick shifter. Um oh yeah, I mean it's super intense, and like especially when you're like torpedoing yourself into the wall of the Nurberg ring at like 200 kph, right? Jesus. But Nurberg ring?

unknown 57:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:03

Oh but I'll wait, wait, wait, like the fucking like where the Hague is?

SPEAKER_01 57:08

Uh I mean there's like a fucking racetrack.

SPEAKER_05 57:11

I feel like you're trying to tell me you you have some kind of game where you drive a car into the Hague.

SPEAKER_01 57:17

I'd play the shit out of that.

SPEAKER_05 57:21

I imagine to like disrupt a war crime from the Cross Tribunal. Like you're trying to.

SPEAKER_00 57:28

I got you brought you drift in there.

SPEAKER_05 57:30

That's like the ultimate expression of the fast and the furious.

SPEAKER_02 57:34

Yeah. One of the guys goes on trial at the Hague.

SPEAKER_01 57:38

Yeah, like Joseph Coney is on there and it's like, we gotta we gotta save Joe.

SPEAKER_00 57:42

Vin Diesel fucking drifts through the trial.

SPEAKER_04 57:45

We gotta get fucking Joe. There's a scene with like Vin Diesel just going like down the halls fucking in his fucking like Nissan skyline.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

Yeah, swerving past political attaches. Swerving past like fucking like But the the need for speed games were basically if you took out even more of the plot, you would focus more on changing the subject. I was going, I was going nowhere good with that. Yeah. And uh you basically just escaped the police and badass West The Hague. Coming back to the Hague.

unknown 58:19

I'm not done.

SPEAKER_08 58:20

I'm not done.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

Okay, let's hear it.

SPEAKER_08 58:23

Fast and the Furious Nuremberg.

SPEAKER_01 58:27

Oh no! Well, I mean Volkswagens are fast.

SPEAKER_05 58:35

It would just be such an unnecessary escalation to go from fucking to go from fucking like stealing cars with other cars to fucking like working on Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

Jesus. Alright.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

We're gonna do this big.

SPEAKER_02 58:56

We're gonna do this big. Hell yeah, boy!

SPEAKER_01 58:58

Admiral Tojo had my back back in the day. Now it's time to get his back. Please finish please finish your thought on Need for Speed. Um, but I need to look up when the first Need for Speed movie came out, but watching this movie and thinking about that made me realize that this movie not only had its own influence on the series, right? Because um the series obviously continued from here, even though it had taken a big swerve from the original and it tones in terms of setting and uh actors. Um but I think it also really heavily impacted video games because Need for Speed and some of those other they're not really racing games, they're more escape games.

unknown 59:35

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 59:36

Like driver, uh Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:38

Like destination racing almost. Yeah, yeah. Not just racing, but like trying to race to a place.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

Race to a place while you're being chased by like a blues brothers.

SPEAKER_05 59:49

Yeah, no, that's nice.

SPEAKER_01 59:51

You know that scene in blues brothers with like the ludicrous number of cars, cars?

SPEAKER_05 59:55

Yeah, sort of like that. Yeah, the the Grand Theft Auto trick.

SPEAKER_01 59:58

Yeah, and that has played very heavily into video games, and I think um that's something I'd previously overlooked is how heavy the Fast and Furious uh franchise's influence had gone beyond just like like literature, right? Like um there's a lot of like I can't even do it with a straight face. And that's the junior novelization of Too Fast, Too Furious.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:19

Who could forget the bit in Wuthering Heights where Heathcliff says, damn, it's a oasis in here. Who could forget the bit where fucking the where fing an all quiet on the Western Front. They try to fucking end the war by driving really fast.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:41

Yeah, the part in as I lay dying when they hit the NOS on the wagon.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:46

The bit uh the bit in the things they carried where where they stop thinking about their senseless wasted lives long enough to fucking do a stream racing Saigon. Do a fucking sweet fucking drift on their on their fucking Mitsubishi. Oh my god. Alright. I feel like we're kind of pushing it for time here, so I'm not gonna be mad if this next question doesn't go too far, but Sure. Do you think speed is a racing movie? Because I kind of feel like it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:22

Interesting. So how do you define racing movie in general, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:25

Well, like it it it's it's all about racing, right? It's just racing a bomb instead of another car.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

But the bomb is also on a moving vehicle. The bomb is on the vehicle, like like is the I think the vehicle going fast is the important part.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:37

Yeah, well, it's it is going fast. Like that's the whole name of the fucking I I feel like speed is a racing movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

So the uh to you the the racing is more against fate.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:48

Yeah, well, like I mean that's what a race is, right? It's a conflict solved by covering speed in a quick way, covering a lot of distance with speed in a few. In a quick way.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

Yeah. That's uh that's a good observation because you know, a lot of like the more narrow definition would be like, okay, they have to be, you know, racing like driving versus one other car of similar caliber, uh, you know, to a specific like line or whatever. But no, this is like speed, there's no end line of the the race. It's just you gotta get this fucking bomb defused. Ben Hur, a racing movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:21

Wow, that that actually is I I I feel like that's I feel like that's too far. I feel like that's I feel like the main I feel like for it to be a main to be for it to be a racing movie, the main conflict needs to be solved by a race, by speed.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:37

Alright, fun. Well that's the that's the thing though, is that like it it is in Ben Her.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:42

That's true. That I guess well that's the final conflict, but is that the main comp you know what I've I I regret bringing this up.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

Yeah, Ben Her and uh our boy Masala are fucking yeah, they're racing in the fucking shout out to Masala, fucking king of the chariot. Yeah, and then they have that like badass chariot race and they're in Carthage, bitch. You never had my chariot, you never had your chariot.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:07

Too fast, too furious, but with like Roman numerals.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:10

Oh my god, dude, that would be amazing.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:12

Ben Diesel as Dominus.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:15

Yeah, but I mean Masala is kind of the Yeah, okay. Yeah, Masala's kind of the the Brian character, right? And Ben Hur is kind of the the Tyrese character, really. So you can say that Ben Her took a lot of influence from this movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:27

You might say that without Too Fast, Too Furious, Ben Her could never have been made.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:32

You could say that. You can make a convincing argument.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:35

You could. You could. I'm not going to, but you could.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:39

Sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:39

Oh all right, fuck it. What else do we gotta talk about? I I feel like I've said everything. I everything except what I want to say about Paul Walker's acting, which is I think it's extremely funny because so much of this movie is deliberate, and so much of the dialogue is very straightforward, Vin Diesel level, tough guy dialogue, where they say, like, you know, like just don't forget me when you're waxing, bro.

unknown 1:04:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:10

Or like fucking, you know, buckle up, cuh. Yeah, yeah. And then and then Paul Walker has like just very actually very polite, very yo, I'm uh I'm gonna crash, bro. Yeah, I'm gonna crash. I'll see you guys tomorrow. Like, yeah. Oh, you guys, you guys should really try this sandwich. It's great. Like, like there's there's something about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:28

Yeah, like I just coffee thought you guys might want some.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:32

Yeah, like, hey bro, I got coffee. Like, oh bro, don't be like that. Like, yeah, like, hey man, can he use the cot?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:40

Like somebody's putting a gun at his head, he's like, not cool, cuh.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:44

Not cool, guy. Come on. Like, like kind of vibe in here. I don't know if that's deliberate too, or if that's just how Paul Walker if that's just Paul Walker's method, but like I found it extremely funny how everyone was like very cle keyed into this being an action movie, except him.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:02

Who again, he kind of rolled with everything that happened. He was never particularly perplexed about any negative developments in his life.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:08

No, no, he was he was he was very calm and at ease with being at the center of this.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:13

I bet he would be he would have been great in Fast and the Furious Nuremberg. Oh no. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:24

Fucking Fast and the Furious movie where to they just they go so fast they discover time travel to preserve the flow of time, they've gotta like ensure that Pol Pot doesn't get assassinated. They gotta ensure that that transferred men gets gets whacked.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:44

Yeah, they have to like drift through the streets of Virginia or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:49

There's just like a scene where they're fucking drifting through the trenches of the psalm.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:54

Yeah, they like have to pick up Gavrilio Princip at the fucking delicatessen and get into the intersection. Or like uh the OJ trial, like they they gotta get Johnny Copper into the courthouse. The cops are trying to stop him. Right? They're firing harpoon guns at like the whatever Ford's like the Bronco, was that it?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:15

Oh yeah, firing electric harpoons at the Bronco, swerving them to my what?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:20

It fucking looks like OJ can't get away from the cops. Like Vin Diesel like jumps out of a plane and lands in through the sunroof.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:29

Like, like, move over, juice.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:34

I got this one. It's about it and brrrrrrr.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:37

Hey, juice, how about we give this car some juice?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:42

And the car goes the brock and puts up the back two wheels and like Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:48

It's like this fucking horrific moment for everyone, but inside the car, it's like woo!

SPEAKER_00 1:06:57

OJ's just having the best time.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:02

He's fucking going like you crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:04

You crazy ass white boy.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:06

I'm not crazy, I'm just confident.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:09

I'm not crazy. I'm just fast.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:16

I meant I feel I meant to come in to this episode respectful and polite, and I feel like I didn't do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:27

We were polite at times.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:28

We were polite at times. We were polite at times, which is also a product of a happy hour. Is sometimes it gets polite. A lot of times not so much, but alright, uh fucking I I feel like I'm fucking tapped out. Like I feel like I've said everything I gotta say.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:43

I only had one other thing I wanted to call out. Well, you wanted to talk about Paul Walker's well, I guess we covered Paul Walker's.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:48

Yeah, we call we cover I I will speak not another word against St. Paul. I I I feel like I have tarnished his legacy already.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:56

I texted you this, but I thought that and I mean this in the most respectful way possible, but the best acting that Paul Walker did in this movie was the scene where like Enrique, the bad guy, like uh or the henchman bites him, and Paul Walker turns toward him like oh like the like horrified slash confused expression he makes makes me think that like that wasn't in the script and that the guy just bit him. Because that's exactly how I would react to if someone bit my shoulder while I was driving.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:23

You know what? Maybe Paul Walker is just that good of an actor.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:27

He insisted on actually getting bitten.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:29

He's meth, he's totally method.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:31

Like, no, bro, I've I've been bitten before, and he pulls up his shirt and he's just covered in bite marks.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:35

He's fucking he's fucking like Jim Carrey in the fucking Coffin show.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:39

He just loses himself to the role.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:41

Man on the moon. I'm sorry. That was that was uh that was what the uh the the movie was called. Uh but there's one there's actually there's there's one more scene that I would love for you to say.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:53

Well, it's uh between uh Enrique, one of the two main henchmans and Roberto, um, and each one of them is assigned to uh Enrique's assigned Paul Walker.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:01

During the last heist when they're trying to transport the money to the drug boss's yacht, uh each of each of the drivers gets a henchman, and Brian's henchman, there's this completely unnecessary scene. Yep. What happens? What does Enrique say?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:18

Uh Brian does some like very impressive driving and some crazy shit, including uh like leaning out the window to pull out an electro harpoon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They they escape the cops, they escape like a horde of cops, and they settle back down into the car, and then completely unnecessarily, like the camera is just you know, kind of resting in the passenger side window, basically. Yeah. And then Paul Walker looks over and says, Thanks, bro. And then they keep driving.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:46

Yeah, and there's like a good like five seconds of just silence afterwards.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:51

And that's my favorite part of the movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:53

I love that part too.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:55

It's just it's so pointless.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:58

It's awesome, dude. It does so much for the characters, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:02

It's just, but it's like the summation of everything.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:04

It's like that's the whole fucking movie. Man, uh, thanks, bro. Yeah, like that is that's that's literally the most important part of the movie. All right, but was that what you wanted to talk about? Or did that be?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:18

I mean, I I really appreciated that scene because it added like some nuance and depth to the characters. Like Enrique wasn't just a goon, he was a goon who was impressed by Paul Walker's ability and skills.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:28

You know what? You know what? Actually, you're right. It is it is really nice to see like some professional courtesy among goons, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:35

Yeah, like one of my favorite things in in fiction in general is uh when like a bad guy and a good guy are like kind of forced to work together by circumstance, right? Yeah, and like and it changes both of their characters in a way. I think they were hinting at that in this.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:49

Yeah, there was a lot going on under the surface there.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:52

Yeah, I was I said it in my notes that I was hoping for Enrique to take a face turn toward the end and like refuse to shoot Paul Walker because like they were bros now. Yeah, but instead we got I think your favorite line of the movie when Tyrese shows up.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

Yeah, it's Boston, baby! It's about to get ugly.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:07

That actually fucking It's about to get ugly is like legitimately a fucking badass thing to say. Like Tyrese does a fucking amazing job in this movie. He's fucking great. Like he has real action movie uh chops. I don't know if he actually went did anything else after this, but about nine more Fast and Furious movies. Oh well fuck great then. Like he solidified himself.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:30

Um he settles into the role so perfectly.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:32

Yeah, like like the the fat the idea of Paul Walker being such a good driver that it causes someone to have like a moral shift. Yeah, exactly. That's the way you put is like you get in the car with Paul Walker, and by the end he's like, you're like, man, I should call my dad.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:48

Yeah, like he's just such a chill, like nice guy. He said thank you, you know. Thank you. Like I've been holding this guy at gunpoint, you know. I get oh thanks, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:57

I would have liked that. I would have liked even better if it had like made him religious after a while. Like he fucking converts to Buddhism.

unknown 1:12:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:08

But that would be that was you know, that's randomly my favorite scene in the movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:12

I I'm glad you brought that up because I'd also like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:15

Um leaping off of this movie, and uh since you don't know anything about the other films, yeah. Um, what would you think some of the like hit me with some uh potential plots that you think might come up? Like what do they have to steal? Like where are they?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:28

I know I know Vin Diesel, The Rock, and Jason Statham all become part of this series at one point. Uh so I'm going to theorize that the heists get bigger and more ludicrous. I am going to theorize that like the problems that can be solved by driving very quickly are expanded.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:51

What kind of problems would you would you imagine?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:53

I'm feeling like very emotional, like very like very profound existential problems, like you know, like an estranged like a miscarriage that happens. Yeah, like there's a miscarriage. You drift the baby back into existence. Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:10

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:13

So you think emotional, like interpersonal problems or like personal.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:18

I don't know if I want to talk anymore.

unknown 1:13:20

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:22

Oh, come on. I'm I'm thinking, yeah, like I was gonna say, like, you know, an estranged father and daughter, like pull a car heist together, and then they're like, like, I should have done I should have done right by you when you were a kid. Like, let's make the most of the time we have. Like that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:39

Okay. I mean, there actually is stuff that's close to that, but like a little more ridiculous. Family, right? Like I think that uh someone has like severe amnesia that's caused by a car accident and then solved by a different car accident, but I might be wrong.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:52

Alright, yeah, that's fucking perfect.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:54

Yeah. Uh I think the most ridiculous thing that they're gonna try to steal is.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:58

Oh, I desperately want it to be like a national treasure type thing where they like fucking try to steal the Lincoln Memorial or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:06

Like they they have giant chains around like the different pillars of it, and then they Yeah, like I'm I'm hoping it just gets real fucking cartoonish.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:14

Like, you know, like their car goes down an alley while they're being pursued by cops, and then the car comes out of the alley and it's got a mustache on. And like the guys inside also have mustaches. Yes. And the cops are like, hey, we're we're tracking these guys, where'd they go?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:30

Like, oh, they went that way.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:31

But then it zooms out and the cop car also has a mustache.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:34

The cop car also has a couple.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:35

And the cops both have just have mustaches.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:39

Yeah, like, ah, damn it, and that's how they get caught and they get fucking like looped into the next plot.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:44

Yeah, what do you think our world would be better or worse if our law enforcement worked like it does in the Fast and the Furious?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:51

Uh, if our fuck if our fucking cops had fucking bazooka grapplers that that could short circuit cars, I think that would be a lot of fucking fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:01

But also, what if they recruited illegal street racers to do more crimes, I guess, in service of I just assume that's how we did it.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:09

Like, I just I believed that this was a legal thriller at first.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:13

That's actually the uh law and order fast car squad.

unknown 1:15:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:20

Ice tea is still in it.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:21

Ice tea is still in it, but like everyone's a fucking dipshit.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:25

Look like you got an illegal exhaust on your ride there, son.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:29

That's what we call that's what we call a bad cough. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:34

So we're of the agreement that the law enforcement would be improved by fast and furizing it.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:39

I don't know about improved, but I I feel like I would look forward to more to more uh discussions of of police and the media if they solve their problems like Mario Kart.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:51

Has you this movie impacted your driving at all?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:54

I don't think so. Not yet. Like I'm I you know, like I was only a fan while I watched it. Like Damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:00

Okay, we gotta have you watch more then.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:02

Also I have a Jeep, which is like not not Subaru.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:06

I mean I have a fucking Subaru.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:08

Yeah, yeah. Like like I feel like I would not be welcome within within within the street racing community. I also you know, I'm also a little self-conscious, a little self-conscious about my looks. Like I I feel like I would not be asked to return to the illegal street race.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:27

I'm just thinking about like other people they like don't invite back, like the weeaboo guy with like full like skin decals of like a big titty fox girl on his own.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:34

Yeah, yeah, like it's it's just a little too much. Uh some fucking some dude with like an incredibly fast car, but like he has just the the fucking too many bumper stickers, like he's got that fucking coexist. Yeah, the coexist. And then like and then like one of those fucking like family stickers, you know, where but it's him and like three cats. Like people just you're really hurting the image by showing up here, guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:02

Like he's got like Calvin pissing on something.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:04

He's got Calvin pissing. He's like my my other fucking my other fucking vehicle is my Quidditch broom.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:11

Yeah, you got like a Reagan Bush 84 sticker. That's like brand new.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:17

He just inexplicably finds all these fucking illegal streetcar meets.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:23

Yeah, he's always there, no one tells him.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:28

He's actually an undercover agent being so fucking lame that he brings down the cool factor.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:35

Like, uh I'm thinking like these days they probably organize this shit like online. Imagine like a Reddit mod onto the Discord.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:42

Yeah, there's like there's like an app.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:46

But like imagine like they bring a Reddit mod onto the Discord by accident. They just like are banning everybody like using the wrong emoji.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:54

The illegal sub the illegal street racing subreddit. Yeah. Um, I don't know if anyone was there last night at Forth in Brooklyn, but somebody said something that kind of hurt my feelings. Alright, fuck.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:11

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SPEAKER_05 1:18:35

Go go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:36

You can find me on the same.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:37

Anyway, I've been I've uh sorry, sorry, go go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:41

I'll say nothing on go ahead. I've been welcome. We threw it the exact same fucking time.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:52

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SPEAKER_01 1:19:04

Stay sloppy.