UV21 - THE HOUSE AT THE END OF TIME (2013)

Join Chris and Charlie as they get released from prison and try to solve the murder of their husband

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:18

No, I didn't. I didn't get it too. I keep meaning to watch it twice. I've done it a couple times. Uh but unfortunately the best the best backup to watching it twice is to just watch it as close to recording as possible. So you don't lose any memory of it.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

And your your ass is also planning to be part of the SGL movie club? You're doubling your workload.

SPEAKER_04 0:47

Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

That's fucked up. Why why did I go? Oh, some people in here should start a podcast and they're like, oh, you start it. Is that fine? And then I go, hey, I should go off GL Movie Club, and you go, yes, or you do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

We should all watch movies. Yeah. Well, you're the one actually.

SPEAKER_03 1:07

I'm not the mod. This should be a mod's job.

SPEAKER_04 1:10

They're not doing it.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

Last time there was a problem, I was all of them going.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

Hey, there's problematic stuff, and then there was no one active.

SPEAKER_04 1:24

Well okay. Good.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

See, Chris, see we ever get our own Discord and running a tight ship. No nonsense.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

Okay, I like that. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:36

We'll have our own uh Fred for Blackjack and Hookers. But only blackjack and Hookers. Hookers and Blackjack both go on their separate ones, but together they have their singular friend.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

Okay. That's a good distinction. No, you don't. No, you do want it to get mixed up. You only want it to get mixed up.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Well wait, when you you fold and it means you have to take your trousers off. Hey, when that happens. I like how we were just completely also I've got to say, in the meantime, Chris, while she weren't here, I lovingly made a second poster for uh for our thumbnail this week. I sent it in the text chat. Get get a little that.

SPEAKER_04 2:24

Oh, I like that.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

You like that? You like scene? Okay, good to know the sentiment is uh is thoroughly agreed with. Maybe we'll swap around.

SPEAKER_04 2:34

Yeah. More are those butthole are those butthole?

SPEAKER_02 2:41

Yeah, more buttholes.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

I suppose they're butthole-ish. Oh, they are very butthole-ish, aren't they?

SPEAKER_02 2:47

Really butthole.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

It's the only one I could find that I wasn't having to pay for some like AI mock-up of a squash tomato.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Oh, they're tomatoes.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

I'm glad you agree with the sentence. Yeah, buttholes. Why is there a total red arsenals onto the poster?

SPEAKER_02 3:11

I don't know, man. I was pretty confused about it myself, to put my.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

No, you wouldn't, you wouldn't feel agreement.

SPEAKER_04 3:17

Yeah, I was just playing along.

SPEAKER_03 3:24

Oh alright.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

So shit we said. This week.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

So you wouldn't even question that I send you photos of it? You're just like, okay, that's that's a normal acceptable thing to do.

SPEAKER_04 3:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:40

Brother, we're green! What do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Well, you know, everyone has their own perspective on the world.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

I suppose uh uh you're the little red guy, aren't you? Maybe your little red guy has a green one.

SPEAKER_02 3:54

Yeah, it probably does.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

What does this mean to follow his like dog cat appearance? His arse at one point has become itchy and rubbed it over the coming soon movie poster that I feel like cinema staff wouldn't be too happy with.

SPEAKER_04 4:11

Oh, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

You like that lore?

SPEAKER_04 4:15

No, not happy with that.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

What I'm an octopus? What what do octopus arseholes look like?

SPEAKER_04 4:25

Uh that's just like the ink hole, wouldn't it be?

SPEAKER_01 4:30

Surely we don't just ink, they must. How do you look that up without that being weird?

SPEAKER_04 4:36

Octopus asshole.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

How do occurs defecate? Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Through a tube or a funnel located on the side. They their waist typically looks like long, thin, white or reddish strings that resemble silly string. The same ball is used for jet propulsion, breathing, and shooting ink. Jet propulsion!

unknown 5:05

Good.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

If it's a tube, you could suck it out like a smoothie.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

You could but do you think they ever get confused like when they're eating and when they're shitting? Oh strawberry lace. Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Yeah, you know, like there's three octopi that are doing a an octopus centipede into each other unintentionally. You think they can use it like a little gun?

SPEAKER_01 5:39

Yeah, it's like seeing an episode of The Simpsons where Bart has every megaphone lined up in one row.

SPEAKER_04 5:45

No.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

You've seen that meme, you've seen that fucking meme where he sets up 20 megaphones connected into each other and goes to the club.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

I probably have. But I don't remember it.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

And it's usually it's something stupid, it's never like what Bart actually says. It's always like a fucking some political thing.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

I saw those come up in the in the record, because that was just gonna seem like just schizophrenic dead air for a moment.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

If it doesn't, yeah, and if it does, is this us introducing that we have a soundboard?

SPEAKER_01 6:21

Well, I mean, I do I don't know. Um because I don't know where if some of the stuff comes from TV shows, I imagine we're not some of it is like Bollywood music.

SPEAKER_04 6:32

That's not music.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

That's that's quite my best attempt, leave alone be.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

So this week we're talking about the House at the End of Time from 2013. It's a Venezuelan horror thriller. I we'll talk about it. Uh directed by Alejandro Hidalgo.

SPEAKER_04 6:59

What did you think of this?

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Oh my god. You've picked maybe the most boring movie I've ever watched. God damn. It's so crazy.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

The most boring movie you've ever watched.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

It is so dull, man. Aside from June part one and Cronenberg's The Shrouds, it's up there in the top three for sure.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

God damn, dude. You have not seen a lot of there's a lot of boring movies out there.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

No, I can take a slow movie, Chris, but this is a fucking bore good god. I really like this movie. Holy shit. What did you like about it? It looks bad, it acted bad, the plots somehow outlandish but also predictable. Also, I'd like to give I think is maybe best that I give my my rundown of my setup. Because see how this is supposed to be fucking to be Chris, and this is on too.

SPEAKER_04 8:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

I've yet again had another issue with Tubi not loading subtitles for me. So I've had to watch it in 800p on a pirate film. And the story.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

That's why it looks bad.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

No, it looks bad. I can I have DVDs. DVDs run at 720p. I was I watched the first half of Train to Busan the other day and it looked great. This is bad. This is fucking okay, Chris. So what did you think of this?

SPEAKER_02 8:42

I like this movie. This movie made me emotional. It's it's a somber family drama. It's not. We've once again fallen into a take shelter situation where this is uh a movie about how metaphysical constructs affect a family, and this is a movie about the unraveling of a family leading up to a catastrophe. Sort of uh in in the wake of a tragedy that's about to occur, the family.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Why not the tragedy has already occurred and the family has already unraveled. It also hasn't happened yet.

SPEAKER_04 9:24

Well, yeah. That's what's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

I don't know, it's interesting that it's uh is this the the bootstrap paradox when it loops in on itself?

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Um I suppose, but hold on, look it up, because there's the grandfather, which is you can't kill you can't go back in time to kill your own grandfather because that would uh that you wouldn't be born, so you wouldn't be able to go back in time to kill your own grandfather.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

Unless you're Philip Jeff Ry.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Well well, what if say you in the future saw that you had gone in time to kill your grandfather? Because then you would have to go back in time to kill your grandfather, but you couldn't kill your grandfather, because then you'd be able to go back in time to learn that you have to kill your grandfather. Have you ever seen Lost? No, Chris. I think you ask me this every week, Chris. I've not seen Lost, no.

SPEAKER_04 10:25

Well, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Uh Spoilers for Lost. Spoilers for Lost. Big spoilers for Lost. Not for the ending, but for cool stuff in it. Skip ahead if you don't want to learn. No. Uh there's you don't care if I spoil like a season three character arc, right?

SPEAKER_00 10:44

No.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

There's a character who that they time travel at some point. They travel back in time. There's a character who his mother is really dismissive towards him and kind of wasn't. Uh he travels back in time, and he the uh a young version of his mother shoots him dead. And sort of as he's dying, he realizes that she realized she killed her son and she just detached from him for his whole life. Like, among other things, uh I like specific plot deal details, I don't remember, but there's a very grim character arc with a time loop that's fun.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

But surely what you would do in that situation is you would then tell your son, oh, don't come back in time to visit me, because I'm going to kill you.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

No, it was an accident that they traveled in time.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Yeah, but okay, but we would just say just don't come near me, surely. Just be like, by the way, I shot you when you were older. You're gonna think this is nonsense, but you're going to time travel, so don't come close to me.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

I think you're being pedantic. Yeah, I I agree that's what a person would try to do. But it's it's a story.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

It's a story, but with a logical fallacy. That makes sense. Why how do you not agree? I just don't know.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

There's an infinite amount of people, and not all of them would every situation in the same way. The likelihood that someone would choose to script it so someone responds in the most logical way possible is it's just not likely in most cases, especially in genre movies.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Well TV shows. But okay, Chris, hypothetical situation. Your mum said to you, Oh, by the way, when you're in your about 25, 30-ish, you're going to go back in time. I accidentally shot you at that point in time, so don't come near me because I have a gun. Would you not then, when you time traveled, go, Oh yeah, I reckon I'll just hang back a bit?

SPEAKER_02 13:14

I'm not arguing with your logic. I'm also convinced that you would still get shot in that situation because it's not the the reality that your mother exists in a reality where you died when she was young. So the world you were born into is a world where you died going back in time.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Okay, but then it could be a scenario where you fix a timeline. I just feel like that was that's what most people would do. Surely the more interesting way to write it would be that his mum realized that she did that, so she then got closer to her son in order to try and stop him doing that. But her getting close to her son caused a chain reaction, which would make him have to go close to her and end up dying.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

It's I don't agree just with the amount of screen time they give that character, which is pretty little.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

So you're so your argument for why it's not better writing is because we don't give a character enough time to develop.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

No, you're being pedantic and trying to define things that don't need to be.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

We're not even this is a completely different time travel.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

You're asking people, emotional people, to respond logically to a situation, and that's not always what's gonna happen, is all I'm saying. I'm not I'm not saying your scenario isn't realistic or authentic, I'm just saying that it's not interesting.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Well, how is how is it not interesting? People trying to logic by way of time travel and being inadvertently forced into time travel logic.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

It can be. I like primer, rather than the problem. But it's not rooted in emotion, which is the point of a lot of lost.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

Okay, but say hi hypothetically, you couldn't do the emotion. Say this happened, and then the mother died before they got a chance to be able to explain this to them when they're older. So that way they're like, hey, as a kid, I remember having these good memories with my mum, and then my mum was really, really distant to me, and then she died. So now I want to go back in time to see her, and then he gets shot by her, realizing why she detached, and then it's not the mother was just an asshole for years about it.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

That would be good also.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

JJ Abrams, come on, man, just resign over. I'll I'll step up.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Yeah. Okay, anyway, this is a completely different time travel scenario than to the Chris and I I may be misremembering the uh you know some of the context, but that's that's what happens beat to beat, at least. It's been a while since I watched it.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

This isn't an episode about a hypothetical lost episode that may or may not happen exactly to how you described it. This is a movie, this is about a movie that has a time travel twist, but the twist is in the title of the film.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

It is, yeah. It's interesting that they did that.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

It's stupid that they did that, is what it is. Because the second she was like, over someone in my house, and I don't know who it is, and I have a note from someone, and I was like, Oh, oh, so it's yours, it's you guys. Yeah, but also that isn't okay. Well, I have an issue.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

But there's a a medium at some point that talks about seeing through time. You know, they they hint at it in the movie. Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

I think they hinted it in the title of the movie, Chris. And I don't think it's a bad translation. I'm pretty sure. Hold on, I'm pulling up the end of time the house at the end of time Spanish, because I'm pretty sure that's the accurate, like it's not one of those shitty localization.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

Yeah, I was looking at the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

So yeah, the house at the end of time.

SPEAKER_04 17:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

Fucked up. Fucked it. Did you ever watch that M Night Shyamalan movie? I'm Oh my god, I'm a dead ghost.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Old is good. I really like old.

SPEAKER_01 17:43

I don't mind watching old. I hear people are a bit iffy on the ending. Is there not like an alternative ending that people prefer? Or maybe it was like based on a book or something.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

Um they might prefer it and is it like five minutes earlier, or that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

I'm sure there was I sure I I don't remember the plot of old aside from the beach makes them old. But I remember watching a video essay back in the day, someone going, Oh yeah, this would have made sense if they did it this way, but they changed it to this, and now it doesn't make sense. And I was like, oh yeah, that sounds like Edinburgh Shyamalan.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

There yeah, there's an element that gets brought up in of the movie that's not in the story.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

Oh, we could do our Shyamalan month. Oh good God.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

We should. We should do that.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

I don't think anyone gives a shit about the Six Sense anymore. I think that had its moment. I think it's like you you know once you know the plot of Six Sense, that is done.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

You think it's a rewatchable movie. I like it.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Uh what else did he make? You made the village, you made trap, he made old, you made the visit. Is Trap good? I've heard Trap's terrible.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

Trap is great.

SPEAKER_04 19:07

Okay, Josh Hart nut.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

You love your your middle-aged white men, we know that's got it's like your favorite thing in films. There's I'm surprised you enjoyed this movie. There's no middle-aged white men.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Spoilers for trap. It's a skip if no one wants spoilers for trap. There's like a lot of the movie where he where he's trying to figure out his way around around the fucking uh arena and just scope around and he's lying to people and he like shoves a lady down the stairs. There's fun stuff in trap.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Okay, so the I know the the premise is serial killer is in the building. The police are trying to get the guy in the concert. I'm assuming the twist is that he isn't the serial killer and it's someone else.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

Yeah, I don't want to say too much. But there's there's a guy trying to get out of the building and he has to like distract people. It feels like a hitman mission.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

I'm gonna okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna put myself in the shyland seat. I'm gonna say what he's doing will stop the serial killer, but he can't let other people know he's doing that. So when the police interrupt, he's trying to get out of the building so he can stop the serial killer. That's that's that's my prediction for that film.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Oh, you think they're gonna like shoot him?

SPEAKER_01 20:39

I'm thinking it's like uh see um Jigsaw, where it's like the the whole thing is um what was shit about Jigsaw? It didn't make any sense. Where it was like, oh yeah, we wanted the police to capture this guy to get the thing, but then when the police capture the guy who's gonna get killed, which starts the game.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

Oh, I don't remember. Yeah, it was a bad ending.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

Like, Chris, your favorite movie? Tell me all about it.

SPEAKER_04 21:08

Oh, you want to talk about glass?

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Oh, glass is some good shit, actually. I I do like glass.

SPEAKER_04 21:14

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

Anyway, etc.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

Yeah, we will talk about Shaman. There's a lot of good stuff. Uh House at the end of time. It's I did like the camera work in this. I thought the framing was nice. There were it held the shots well, there was a good versilitude, like a a feeling that the spaces were lived in. That this was a home that people had been in for several years.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

I hear that, I hear that, and I raise you. I feel like this was shot like a TV soap drama and was. Incredibly uninteresting at every point in the film. Barring one shot, but I was like, okay, but very subdued, um like very what's the word I woke over here? Like almost everyday sort of menial vibe. I was like, oh, that makes this one horror scene cool. And then there's a shot and we don't that's like circling her.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

Is that what you're talking about?

SPEAKER_01 22:27

No, no, no. Are we just are are we just jumping about this shit?

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:32

Okay. I think it'll be like that.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

Well, we should probably start with the opening. The opening, our lady wakes up and that's where that shot is.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

That's the camera's circling around her.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

I just I somehow missed. I think I was too busy focused on the lighting. Because that's why I mentioned see when we started watching this and I was like, are you sure this is is this the right because the shot, the lighting was so horrendous, I was like, this feels like a college film. What is what's going on here? And then I didn't know if it was if this was like it gave horror vibes, but I was like, I don't know if this is if this is the horror vibe.

SPEAKER_04 23:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Okay, wait, this it's we'll skip through it. She wakes up, house, hubby dead, she's like, Lepordo. I can't I can't do an accent. Cross cut that, please.

SPEAKER_04 23:25

No.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

I don't mean I don't mean to do the accent, I just went to the name and it came out. How do you say how do you say that name and not an accent? I feel like you have to say the name.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Just say Leo.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Leo. I'll just say Leo, okay. She's like, where's Leo? He just sounds like a fucking ninja turtle.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Look at him a big one.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Oh fuck, how am I gonna say the the the dad's name without putting the accent on? I feel like you can't say Juan Jose.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

You're fine.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Okay. Juan Jose.

SPEAKER_04 24:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Okay. Okay. I'm scared. I don't know. I don't know what a character's name and then immediately go into my Venezuelan accent. I feel like you're not allowed to do that one. It's a very poor country.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

Yeah, no. And that might explain why the lighting doesn't look great. You know, they don't have a Hollywood necessarily.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

So they're not actually before we get into it, see if say you're pronouncing a word and not oh yo, you were part of this argument, weren't you, about the whole you started it that people shouldn't pronounce the French word in a French way because we're not French.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Yeah, get the fuck out of my face with your croissant. Alright. There's a croissant, that's the word. Eat shit. It's a croissant. This is America. If it's America, you can take your fucking Belgian or French, say croissant. That's fine. But get out of my face with it's it's the the melding of it that bothers me. Because I'll have people who say, can I please have a ham and cheese croissant? No.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

If you're having it up, if you're hamming it up, yeah, but if you're just going, hey, can I get ham and cheese croissant? That's fine. Because that's what it's called.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

I'm not about it.

SPEAKER_04 25:26

Putting my foot down.

SPEAKER_03 25:27

What do you call petit pois?

SPEAKER_04 25:30

I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

It's a type of peas, small peas.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

I don't have them.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

You you d you guarantee you go to whatever your nearest supermarket chain is and go to the foes of the book.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

They probably are called small peas, petit peas.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

They're called petit pois. If you buy it, if you get a cookbook and they tell you get small peas, it will say petit pois.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Well, shove your petit pois up my ass.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

It doesn't sound like I I think you're asking for that. That's that's like a little proposition here. Okay, so you're firmly people can say but so if I was saying let's pull up the fucking the Spanish title of this again. So I'm not supposed to say Le Casa de Fin de la Tempos. I'm supposed to say Le Casa de Find de la Tempos.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

I don't say that.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

No, because that's what you're suggesting.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

That's what I'm saying, though. Say the whole thing. So come up to me and say, can can I have a can I have a amont suisse croissant? Hit me with that.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

No, surely that's worse.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

Yeah, go all the way.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Your cafe. I do own a restaurant.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

That would be really funny. I would tell all of my co-workers that you did that.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Yeah, but what if everyone did it? What have everyone that wanted a cloisson?

SPEAKER_02 27:13

That'd be horrible.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Exactly. See. Disproving. No, they are.

SPEAKER_02 27:18

Call it a pan au chocolat. I'm fine with that.

SPEAKER_03 27:21

Why is that okay?

SPEAKER_02 27:25

It just is, man. But if you're gonna say chocolate croissant, I'm gonna punch you in the nose.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Well, so you prefer him to say a chocolat croissant?

SPEAKER_02 27:36

No, I no pan-hocola.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

Okay. Oh, I'm glad we've gotten to the bottom of this. But anyway, she's looking at the show.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Nobody's been pedantic today. That's what's important.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

She doesn't she doesn't give a fuck. There's two boys, but she does not give a fuck about the other boy right now. It's all about her little ninja cuttle son. But he he gets he gets a big spooky hand, grabs him. And then I like okay, I get they say okay, she got imprisoned for the murder of her husband. Why? What the fuck do you mean? She woke up and he was stabbed. I feel like we're especially if the child's missing, because surely then there would be an investigation into where the child is and it goes, okay, the the mum clearly didn't do this.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

There's two things at play, as far as I can tell. One is just that she her fingerprints were on the knife, so if they test it, they would see that. You know, the evidence supports it.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

And then also Well, well, her fingerprints are on her own knife from her own house. Funny it up.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

Yeah, but it's also a murder weapon, and her fingerprints would be on it like with her pinky towards the towards the blade of it, you know, in a way that you don't cut things when you're in a kitchen. That's all right. The other thing is that when they're arguing about taking the kids away, her husband says, Do you think they would ever give you custody? implying that the legal system is much more in favor of the man in the situation or the husband. So I assume in a case where a husband is dead and it looks like the wife might have killed him, they're just going to assume that she did, especially if the kids are missing or dead.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

In this case, the police report, like two weeks beforehand of them phoning the police and going, someone broke into the house and my child is a witness and saw it. So surely the natural thing would be, Oh, someone broke into the house and killed him.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

I don't think a child is a reliable witness for police.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

But the husband was also like, Yeah, someone must have broken.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

He wasn't in the house. There was still a break-in. Police were informed.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

It's just I don't know what you want me to say. It doesn't seem unrealistic to me that she went to prison.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

Okay, well, anyway, she's out of prison now and she is. Is this the same actress that they like put a wig on and gave her some white eyebrows?

SPEAKER_02 30:32

They did. It's funny to me because it seems like they cast someone who seems like they already look kinda old. And then it would be easier to put the prosthetics on.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Because when I first watched it, I was like, those eyebrows are suspiciously white. I don't think that's an actual old person.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Yeah, I don't think you needed to do that.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

Just hire an old person. What's so wrong about that?

SPEAKER_02 30:56

Nothing. I I think that would have been nice to give an old actor some work. Uh I think she does a decent job, but she also she plays it up a little bit cartoonitially.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

What's what's the lead actress's name? It's uh Ruddy Rodriguez.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

Yeah, Ruddy Rodriguez.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

What was what was funny about that?

SPEAKER_02 31:23

He said Olivia Rodriguez for a second. But I caught myself.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

I would say is probably the best part of this film. I do like I do like the hot beast. The hot beast is kind of girl. I like him. I love I love having a hotel.

SPEAKER_02 31:42

She is she's fantastic. I I think uh the physical acting when she's old is really good in some in a lot of places and then a little bit overly frail, maybe in some cases.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

I mean she's been in for like 30 years.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

Yeah, exactly. So it doesn't she she does a great job. I think the acting didn't strike me as particularly horrible. What do you think about the kids?

SPEAKER_01 32:14

The kids are okay. We're fine. We work.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Okay, hell yeah. Fine for kids is pretty great, because you can have a lot of bad kid actors.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Yeah, there's okay, so she's she's she's out of prison. It's been 30 years apparently she's been released. I don't know what this whole scenario about her having uh police officers watching the outside of her maybe they're they're scared she's gonna like dig up the kids' bodies. I said, I don't know what this whole scenario we've got going on is because she's under house risk.

SPEAKER_02 32:49

Why would she say it's something that they only grant to women her age in prison?

SPEAKER_01 32:57

But why if they think she murdered both her kids and her husband, why why are we letting her home?

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Because she's too old to do anything else, and it's just something that the law grants to women. Maybe it's to keep them out of prison so that maybe it's so that they don't have to feed them, or maybe it's to keep them out, you know, somewhere safer than prison would be. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

But that's what the funding cost of having two police officers outside of our house 24-7 wouldn't negate that easily.

SPEAKER_04 33:34

Good thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

I don't know, it just seems very, very, very strange to be on house arrest after 30 years in prison. But uh I do like that.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

It is strange, but they they explain it in the movie, is my only point.

SPEAKER_01 33:47

Who's this woman that like takes her back to her old home? Is it just like a a prison worker?

SPEAKER_04 33:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

I find it very funny that she's like, Oh, I cleaned up the house for you, and then the house is in no way, shape, or form cleaned up in the sleeves.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

What's so funny is I got the same vibe from this lady as we got from the the medical assistant in upgrade, where she's bringing you in and she's showing you around, but also inside she's going, When can I leave? Please tell me I can go home. I don't want to be here.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

Well, I mean, would you want your job to be escort the old murderers home?

SPEAKER_04 34:25

No.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

Especially with she's not a very happy old lady, I should no.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Did you know that you said predictable? I I had the inclination. Did you know that Leo would kill Rodrigo? That's why he wasn't in the start of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

Uh I did not, but I was also it was very humorous the way he died. It was a very, very stupid way to fucking kill someone.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

It was rough, yeah. It was really dumb.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

Like we couldn't have just had him fall off of something. Like a more realistic way of what I think.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

I mean, be pushed off, maybe, but it's I think what's what's supposed to be impactful about it is that it's they are playing. Like he didn't it's like a miracle that he hit him with the ball in the first place. He was aiming, but it's still like it's crazy that he hit his brother in the face with the baseball.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

And the same aim on the boy. Yeah, to be fair, we have to help the practice throwing pest balloons at people.

SPEAKER_02 35:37

And kids get mad and sometimes you know wish harm on other kids because they don't understand what they're thinking or wishing for. Uh it it was pretty impactful. I think the to me, what's impactful about it is that it's abstracted. So there's if you you have two kids and one of them pushes another kid off of a cliff, that's deranged. But this in this situation, this kid was up to bat. He was in a situation where he was anticipating having agency in some way, and he had a lot of anger in him, and he just kept thinking about how he could turn that anger in that moment into something actionable, and without thinking, followed through on it. And it seems like he regrets it pretty quickly once he thinks about it.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

Yeah, but I think you get this exact same thing from just having like them arguing whilst climbing a tree, or them like having a a play fight at the top of the stairs. I feel like this whole magical baseball is just a bit goofy.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

I don't agree. I think there's a degree of magical realism at play in this movie, but that's it's very horror fantasy. But I think that's fine also.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

It is Joe, it's funny. It's kind of weirdly the setup for hereditary.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

I guess so. A little bit.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Is it not where the sibling accidentally kills the younger one in a freak accident for not listening to what we're being told to do, and that causes family drama and separation in the house, which leads to the stuff.

SPEAKER_02 37:41

Yeah, and the end result is the the other, the primary child of the home becoming uh the you know, the closest thing to a messianic figure that you could have in the situation.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

Did Arias steal this movie?

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Maybe. I love what he talks about how the colonists are now living in the future. Those guys are just chilling.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

It was just a line I missed in the mo- remember, I had broken English subtitles.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

Oh fuck, yeah. The sun shows up and he talks about how he's living in the future now. He's living in 2070, I think he says.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

And he says, and I need to go to the future to get some disease cure.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Yeah. Uh which I I think is just now, which is why he can be raised at the time she's in. You know, it's just that medicine didn't exist 30 years ago. But then when he's that age, it's 2070. And he said that uh like the colonists who founded the town they're in went through one of the portals and wound up in the future, and they're just hanging out in the future.

SPEAKER_01 39:00

Oh, that's that doesn't seem like a good ending for them.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

No, that's very interesting and weird.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Think of like bacteria and like disease mutations. Oh, that's a good point. You die, you die so quickly.

SPEAKER_04 39:17

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

Especially since this is like poor little village, it seems like most people don't have the most stable career or income. And they're getting thrown into I mean like why what year are we on now? So like 40-ish years into our future. Our future's fucked as is. Imagine having to jumpstart that by like an extra 40-50 years.

SPEAKER_04 39:41

Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

World War III would have happened. America is now the ruling country of the world.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

When is it not?

SPEAKER_01 39:53

Um probably now you're all just you're just kind of the dish bags of the world right now.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

True.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

But yeah, the entire entire world's now one girl. Um world resources running low. Oil will have known. They're in they're in hell, Chris.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

I'm excited. We'll keep podcasting though. Stick with us. We'll keep podcasting through the end of the world.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

Do you know that would be see you see the world ended, but two people still managed to hot wire their old little generator and get a Wi-Fi connection running and just kept a podcast?

SPEAKER_02 40:33

Yeah, a fucking rule.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

People on their travels could like try and radio in every now and then you'd catch a new episode.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

Hell yeah. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

That'd be such a sick idea for a Fallout radio.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

That's cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:47

Yeah, like big is it Free Dog from Fallout 3? Or is it C Dog?

SPEAKER_02 40:52

Yeah, but he's like in a bunker instead of broadcasting from a tower.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Yeah, he's like, I can get more money from Luka Cole ads doing this. Need his like little sponsorship segments. Oh Cod Howard, move us right. Both him and JJ Abram, I'm taking them all. Taking all the scrawny little white guys with curly hair.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

Short, scrawny little white guys.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

Anyway, Chris, this family dynamic. I like the two little boys. I think I think they seem fairly realistic. What's what's the what's the the mum's deal with the the husband? Because she seems really pissed that he can't get a job, but it also seems like he's actually just trying to get a job.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

Well, the habit seems to be going to the bar. And I don't know, you know, at least spending money when he doesn't have a job. Because they argue and he goes to the bar and he seems to be reticent to reveal that right next to her to the cop. And when he says that he was at the bar, she seems frustrated about it.

SPEAKER_01 42:02

So it it seems like he is setting the the bar bits from mine. It was like, oh, I was out helping friends, and I was like, Oh, nice. He's he's trying to he's getting work somewhere. Good on him.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

No, mine said he was out at the bar around the corner.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

What the fuck? Whoever did my subtitles is like written for this man.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

Well, what's crazy is neither of us has a clear picture of what the fuck is going on. No, I mean, let me look at the Wikipedia and see if it says specifically, because that's messed up that we can't actually comment definitively.

SPEAKER_01 42:35

No, I feel like yours is fucked, because you you'll have official subtitles. Mine's are definitely some fan translated.

SPEAKER_04 42:41

True, okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

Also, I forgot to when we were talking about like the the naming config. Did you know that this was picked up for an American remake um a decade ago?

SPEAKER_04 42:54

No.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

So maybe that's why I wound up hearing about it. May John, maybe we went to make the movie and accidentally moved to the future. So now we just we're having to wait for that one to come out. It's never been a thing. Maybe they don't have the movie technology to make it as good as they want. Maybe we wanted an actual time machine so we can move the actors around in time whilst we film it.

SPEAKER_04 43:23

That makes sense. Have you ever seen Time Trap?

SPEAKER_01 43:30

The fuck is is this another like five out of ten that has some old action star in it? Sci-fi film?

SPEAKER_02 43:39

It's a three out of ten and it has uh Owen Wilson's brother.

SPEAKER_04 43:46

No, not Luke Wilson. And Andrew Oh, that's not a good name.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

He drives the dildos. In idiocracy.

SPEAKER_01 44:03

What was that sentence?

SPEAKER_02 44:07

He drives the dilldozer in idiocracy.

SPEAKER_01 44:11

Don't you tell what is what's a dilldozer?

SPEAKER_02 44:15

Well, in idiocracy, there's a scene where the president sentences Luke Wilson to death by Thunderdoming from Mad Max cars, basically, and then the final big Mad Max car is a big dildo truck.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

Huh? What should you all be?

SPEAKER_04 44:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

Uh Time Trap is a movie about kids that get stuck in a cave and time moves weird. I don't remember exactly. They find like Romans inside the cave. They find a saber-toothed tiger. What?

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Sounds very Doctor Who, so is it like the cave entrance is a is a portal?

SPEAKER_02 45:09

Yes, that's exactly it. And it's with like a time slip stream. It is super Doctor Who. That's actually probably why I liked it. It's very much like an episode of Doctor Who. Like, oh no, we fell into this weird cave.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

I feel like there was a Doctor Who episode that had a similar pr like premise to this. Is there not a Matt Smith Doctor Who episode that has a very similar pr like premise to this movie? But there's like little crispy burnt monster people running about.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

Oh uh there's uh an episode where they're trapped in the TARDIS and there's crispy burnt future versions of them.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

No, no, not not crispy Clara. It's like um uh he's like he's like with a ghost hunting team, and there's like this woman that he keeps trying to res up.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

Oh, yeah, with not Wolverine.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

With not Wolverine?

SPEAKER_02 46:03

Yeah, do gray scott.

SPEAKER_01 46:06

Oh no! No, this this argument can't be brought over to this podcast as well.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

It's astounding to me that you didn't know who I was talking about immediately.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

Uh but I've heard this fucking fun fact about Wolverine so many fucking times in my life, and I still don't know if there's my and you still didn't realise. Isn't he Scottish?

SPEAKER_04 46:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

See, that's that shows how unimportant he is.

SPEAKER_04 46:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

Oh I got Chris, first haunting. The only scene I like in this movie is when everyone's in their rooms. She's kicked a husband out rather coldly, may I say. And all the banging on the doors happen. So I'm like, that's that's a a genuine fear that people have in this very mundane, very just not lit or shot properly at all movie that makes it feel like it was just someone's phone. Um adds to oh yeah, someone's just breaking into the house, and that's fucking scary.

SPEAKER_04 47:12

Yeah, that was a good moment.

SPEAKER_01 47:14

The old lady hand um immediately ruined any tension as to what was behind that door because you're like, oh it's a little old lady.

SPEAKER_02 47:21

Yeah, I guess I see that for sure.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

I like I liked the shot of uh the mother coming out of the room, and then you see old lady mother doing a little like skitter into the darkness. That was quite funny.

SPEAKER_04 47:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:34

Yeah. But yeah, so what's who who do we have in this point? We've got the dad, and he's he's left. He's like, I'm not putting, I'm not putting up with this shit. I'm gonna go drink again.

SPEAKER_00 47:45

And we have Leo who he's he's in his room, he's hiding under his bed sheets.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

No, Rodrigo is hiding under his bed sheets.

SPEAKER_01 47:55

It's a no no because Rodrigo's running about, is it not? And is it not no Leo is Leo Curly haired boy?

SPEAKER_02 48:01

Leo is curly haired boy.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

I thought Rodriguez was curly haired boy.

SPEAKER_02 48:07

Rodrigo? And no, Rodrigo is the one who gets a fucking frozen uh f fuck. What is it called? Frozen wire to the beam to the head.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

Uh I've got the mic well, one of them's hiding in the stupidest fucking way possible. Who hides under see-through bed covers?

SPEAKER_02 48:30

Kids?

SPEAKER_01 48:32

Yeah, you hide under the bed or in the cupboard.

SPEAKER_02 48:35

No, I would hide under my covers also.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

No, but when you c when you can't breathe properly. Uh do you have a plan? See if someone ever tried to break through your front door. Have you had a thought about how you would get out of that situation?

SPEAKER_02 48:51

Used to have a baseball bat near my bed. Now, out my window. How high up? Back my door out my window.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

Oh, you have a fire escape wheel, don't you? You're in New York?

SPEAKER_02 49:03

No fire escape.

SPEAKER_01 49:05

What floor are you on?

SPEAKER_02 49:06

Three.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

Buddy, you ain't making that.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

Uh no, I figure it out. There's somewhere between uh it's in a courtyard. My window looks into a courtyard, so there's walls everywhere. There's a I could climb up. There's a a wall that goes up, but I've seen people working on to the left of one of my windows. I could figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 49:30

See, my plan was also my window, but it's because I know my windows have a good center beam, and I could try and make a somewhat rope out of my bed cover and my bed sheets. I'll have most movies. Because the thing is there's grass out there and I'm second floor, so normally that wouldn't be too bad of a jump. But there's a railing that goes all the way around with big spikes and big blunt spikes at that.

SPEAKER_04 49:58

Fuck you're dead.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

No, no, no, no, no, no. See, the plan would be to lower myself half a floor out, but only a floor and a half, and then use the momentum from pushing off to clear the spikes onto the grass.

SPEAKER_04 50:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 50:16

Because I feel like from the crouch window position, that jump, I'm dead. I I'm not able to get enough momentum to get myself away from said spikes. But I feel if I have the the squat position uh vertical on the wall, I might have I might have the the uplift. That or I'm getting impaled through the arse, which is not a nice way to go. But I feel like hopefully there's a chance that it might just clog everything so I don't bleed out.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Or you'll become a cinnabite.

SPEAKER_01 50:49

Maybe I'm trying to it's like a two-foot tall spike though. So it's definitely pierced in everything. But it's whether but it's it's in a very uh like the spikes, it's a blunt spike that goes in a very butt plug shape. So I don't know if maybe and just like k like trap it all.

SPEAKER_02 51:08

That's grim. I don't know about it.

SPEAKER_01 51:10

Oh imagine getting imagined the firemen come out and have to saw you off of that thing. Every you'd feel every vibration in every part of them.

SPEAKER_02 51:20

I hate that.

SPEAKER_01 51:24

Uh G spot and all the wood.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

No, no. What did you think about the plot between Leo and Rodrigo with the uh the girl, sort of the love triangle?

SPEAKER_01 51:38

Um I mean it's whatever, isn't it? It's like five minutes of screen time.

SPEAKER_02 51:44

It is, but it's pretty central to the movie.

SPEAKER_01 51:47

I like I like the the one of them has the Riz. He steals her hat and he's like, Oh, you're you're more beautiful this way anyway. I was like, that's pretty good for for that age.

SPEAKER_04 51:57

Yeah, no kidding.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

But he also did tell her to close her eyes and then he kissed her, which resulted in a punch. Which I'm pretty sure it's deemed sexual assault.

unknown 52:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

So L Riz on that that side.

SPEAKER_02 52:09

Good point.

SPEAKER_01 52:10

There's a W Riz and an L Riz, so I feel it evens itself out.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

Evens out.

SPEAKER_01 52:15

I feel it's probably also something about uh putting your bodily liquids in a balloon and hitting them at people in the middle. That's probably not go down well either.

SPEAKER_02 52:25

It's probably uh against the Geneva convention.

SPEAKER_01 52:30

It's it's it's biological warfare, is it not?

SPEAKER_04 52:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:36

Did you ever see the thing in uh World War II where uh the UK once reigned porn over Germany to try and distract them? No, that's what like in the trenches and rather than dropping bombs via planes, they dropped uh porn pamphlets because the men had been away from home for so long they were hoping it would it would keep their mind off of the war.

SPEAKER_02 53:02

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 53:06

Okay, maybe two of them are jacking it at any said time. The whole trench isn't going for it.

SPEAKER_04 53:13

Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're we're taking shifts.

SPEAKER_01 53:19

You get happy hour every day, and that's uh hi feel scene out to join us. He wants to hear about the World War II fun facts.

SPEAKER_04 53:31

What'd you think about the music?

SPEAKER_01 53:33

It did not like I no notes. Nothing came to my mind at all.

SPEAKER_02 53:38

I liked it. I I felt like it held the tone well. It was creepy in some places, but there was a lot of especially especially during the base of the the music swelled in very Yeah, I guess kind of amblin', you know, Spielberg-y kind of ways.

SPEAKER_01 53:55

Oh yeah, no, during the during the kid scenes, I I like it was very it was strange because the the very short amount of kid scenes we get is very like it feels more like a coming of age framing. I really like their story more than anything else. Yeah, I would I would much prefer if this was just like see kind of like a stand by me, one of those movies where it's just kids getting up to some bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 54:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

Is it a spooky ghost or is it just a lady?

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Oh, I mean, depends where you're doing it. If if a ghost is just someone that's moved onto a different plane, maybe by time traveling into it, you basically are a ghost.

SPEAKER_04 54:43

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

I mean, you figure that if every fellow in your body would have regenerated by then, so you're actually seeing a dead version of yourself.

SPEAKER_04 54:54

True, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 54:57

Well, actually, no, there is a ghost moment in this movie either way, because Leo sees his brother after he's died.

SPEAKER_01 55:09

But is that not was he not like I assumed it was because of the house team shenanigans?

SPEAKER_02 55:14

It was definitely but that's that's as close to seeing a ghost as you get in this movie, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

I do like he goes, you smell of piss. That reaction to your brother ran into your room crying and tried to hug you.

SPEAKER_02 55:30

Yeah. Yeah, he did piss himself.

SPEAKER_01 55:34

I d what did you think of the the s George? They also did they not also go to like a uh thing in hereditary at one point? Like a little psychic fortune tellery person.

SPEAKER_02 55:49

Probably, I don't remember though.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

Was it not like the the old woman that she's like, oh, I was your grandmum friend in an Arias? No, she's in the cult because her draft is fucking yellow, and old cunts wear yellow in this film, so that's kind of obvious, doesn't it? Was it an Aria after the naughty dumbass? But anyway, the heredity, what do you think of her little her little psychic woman?

SPEAKER_02 56:18

She's interesting. I like uh I guess just the take on mysticism. How uh you know she has a sister who's sort of trapped between realms.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

Oh! Oh, because she's like kind of brain dead, so she's like physically alive. I don't know if your subtitles said they got into a car accident and they're she was in some accident, and I was like, Oh, so is the horror here supposed to be oh no a disabled person? Because I feel like that's not No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 56:54

She said that she can only she can't see in the corporeal world, but she can see in the spiritual world.

SPEAKER_01 57:02

So is she brain dead or is she just blind?

SPEAKER_02 57:05

Somewhere between.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

Why wouldn't all blind people be helpful?

SPEAKER_02 57:15

Uh no, she's like, it's a specific accident. It's like a a daredevil accident that's happened to her, basically.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

Oh maybe she was like resuscitated.

SPEAKER_02 57:26

Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

So it's kind of like uh fuck what's that movie, Talk to Me.

SPEAKER_02 57:33

Oh, I guess so.

SPEAKER_04 57:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:35

But he's in that weird the the weird ghost code. That's a good movie. It is. I still haven't seen bring her back. Ah, it's tropey. It's really true. It's like it's well made. Yeah, okay. But at the same time, it's like it's kind of boring compared to Talk to Me. Talk to me felt at least original. Even though it's just kind of gamified horror, but I feel like the the horror scenes in Talk to Me were quite original, the weird kind of like the Black Lodge, but just naked old people.

SPEAKER_02 58:05

There's also that great dance, not dance, uh party sequence where they're playing the game.

SPEAKER_01 58:12

Oh, where one of them tongues a dog.

SPEAKER_02 58:15

Yeah.

unknown 58:16

Strange.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

That's really well edited.

SPEAKER_01 58:19

I don't know what what possessed them to put that into the script.

SPEAKER_04 58:23

Uh no idea. Yeah, Cabin in the Woods?

SPEAKER_01 58:27

Maybe. Do they tongue a dog in Cabin in the Woods?

SPEAKER_02 58:31

Someone makes that with a deer head.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

I feel like there's a difference between a fake deer head and an actual alive dog.

SPEAKER_02 58:38

Yeah, but that's the closest thing I can think of that you could go like, oh, let's up it.

SPEAKER_01 58:47

Now my my big thing from Talk to Me is I love the head crunch. See anytime that little shit smashes his face into a table and it makes it sound.

SPEAKER_04 58:57

That's fucking rough.

SPEAKER_01 58:58

No, I love a good head crunch for satisfied.

SPEAKER_02 59:02

Oh my god. No, it's hard to do it.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

Heads are solid, heads hard. Uh uh. How visceral the the head smashing was.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 59:21

Not but we're not we're not talking about talk to me or tonguing dogs.

SPEAKER_02 59:28

The people who built the house got off really lucky. Apparently it was Freemasons who built the house and then they just disappeared, which means they're living in the future, probably. And then what the next people who lived there disappeared and then they closed it, and then I think they said the police opened it for families, and then another family disappeared before them.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

I should probably got a good deal in house.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

It sounds like it.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

I feel like surely that would add to the police investigating that someone's like all those intruders in my home.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:05

Yeah, that there's disappearances. I just don't think the police care like that. To be honest.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:14

Maybe, but I feel like this is a repeat set. I suppose I was talking about the repeat Arden Craig murderers of Glasgow, and the police don't care about that, so I suppose like 40 years apart.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:26

Nice house. I like the house set.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:32

What um I've I have two be in the background, and I've been seeing ads for this law firm named Cantaso, and this ad that I just watched was an animated ad it's like a CGI animated ad, not a cartoon, of a gorilla in a workman outfit with a little yellow hat gets picked up by a crane and gets swung around and knocked into walls and he gets hurt, so he has to call a lawyer.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

And does it work out for him?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

Yeah, I feel like it's a fair situation to sue.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

You'd think so. I'll never know if it worked out for him.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

Uh well, side tangent, but Chris, see in America, do you ever get like they're like imagine a souvenir shop, but it's all just like cheap knockoff shite from like AliExpress and Timu, and you just sell whatever's trendy at the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:33

Yeah, oh yeah, so many.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:36

Do have all your shops started getting in um gorilla plushies wearing DMX t-shirts?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:43

I don't know, I'll have to look. I'm not in them that much.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:47

You've got you have a look out for them because it seems like every single one in Glasgow has been getting in fake laboo boo plushies, um, k-pop demon hunter knockoffs, and DMX uh fan gorillas.

unknown 1:02:01

Huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

And it's uh such as because I'm like, why a gorilla? And why DMX?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:09

That's really odd. I don't know what is DMX up to lately.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

They're dead.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:16

Uh didn't he have throat cancer or something?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:20

Do not remember.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:23

DMX. Yeah, he he died five years ago, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:27

God damn. So what is going on then?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:31

Yes, I was so confused. I was walking with my girlfriend, I was like, oh no, did I did I see that? I had to go back. Yeah, I remember why. I I'll see if I can find almost you you saw about the next part of the movie, and I'll I'll see if I can find this DMX plush.

unknown 1:02:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

Uh yeah, so when well we talked about the kid dying. We're talking about Well, I'll talk about this funeral for a second. Uh sad scene, and it's kind of touching and heartbreaking when everyone leaves and Leo's last friend is about to leave, and he says, You are my only brother now. Please don't ever leave me. Uh comes back later in the movie. It's uh demented when you don't know it's coming back, and you see that kid at the fence where the mother is being arrested, and you think about that kid growing up thinking, Oh, I failed this guy. Oh, this guy's dead. Which I guess he did until he was, you know, 30, 40 or so, whenever he was this priest.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:48

I didn't think about that. That's a fun connection.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:52

Also, I feel like okay, see she, like let's talk about this time travel now. Okay, so she's an old woman.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:58

This is such a weird little plushie that you've sent me.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:01

It is why and it it's just why?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:06

I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

Because if we target children, children aren't gonna know the DMX or people that like DMX for his pop bangers are gonna be too old to buy a DMX plush or even care about his songs that much. And hardcore hip hop fans are not gonna buy a knockoff DMX plushie.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:28

What's going on?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:31

I don't know, but it's kinda hard, I have to add out. I keep going, should I get one? I thought it's just disrespectful.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:43

Well, I don't think I think he was a bad person.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:47

Oh well, I wouldn't be surprised. I would get one. I would get a DMX gorilla.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:57

Okay, so this so Chris does does the title just seemingly happen at random then? Is that Yeah, it seems to be.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:07

They just know when this one instance is happening. You know, at 1111, 11 on 1111.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:14

But like so. But other than that, they say it's random. She has like a little strange stone tunnel. The priest is like, what the fuck's all this about? And she's like, I don't know, peace me. Here when I got it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:28

Yeah, and it it kind of looks like the the basement in the devil's doorway.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:35

Kinda, but I feel like surely you would investigate your weird cause it's fucking huge. It's like a hollow house down there.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:44

Yeah, it looks like it connects to a cult compound. Like you could have as above so below happening down there.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

Uh I like the the the priest, he shows up and he's like, Oh yeah, I know you didn't murder them because you've seen children. And smile. That's a bad that's a bad gauge for whether or not someone has murdered a child or not.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:07

Yeah, he could easily get murdered right there.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:10

Well, I don't I don't think she's gonna overpower him.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:14

She could stab him.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:16

He's a very unfazed priest, isn't he? Because he walks in on her about his little wrist and is like, gonna not do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:23

Yeah, he's just like, well, don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:27

She's she's bleeding from her wrist.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:31

And she already burned herself.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:33

He just sat down, has a guy. Like surely you would get like a towel or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:37

Yeah, no, he's not concerned.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:42

Chris, why is this priest in this movie?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:45

Because he's it's a time travel twist.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:48

Okay. But look, why is he?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:51

I mean, that's he's he's the the narrator or the um or the he's the audience surrogate rather, you know. He's supposedly learning about this story through her as we experience the back end of the time travel story, but then the twist after that is that he is the friend, Leo's friend, who is not abandoning him.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:16

Yeah, but okay, but surely then you should write him as the like the prison worker that dropped her off, and then just go, Oh, yeah, I'm gonna pop up every now and then and have have a little visit just to make sure you're getting on, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:30

I don't I don't disagree. It could be cleaner.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:36

Because it seems like he has a key to the house, he just lets himself in, the fucker. Pretty rude.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:41

Yeah, it is a little weird. Like he gets past the cops, and then one of them comes in and goes, What are you doing here? You can't be in here. Leave.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:49

Yeah, after the other ones, like, yeah, right, fair enough, you're a priest going in.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:54

It's a little weird.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:56

Also, the fact that he knows about time travel should probably disprove a lot of a lot of his god theories. He's probably like, hmm. Maybe this isn't a religious situation.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:07

Yeah, maybe he kills Leo. Maybe he goes, uh you can't exist in the eyes of the Lord.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:13

Oh, you could you could do something with that, because if Freemasons built it, you could be like, Oh, this was supposed to be a church, but but God gave us what's going on in the background. Are you okay, Chris?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:25

Oh yeah, that's Greg is dead.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:29

Oh, Rip Craig.

unknown 1:08:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:32

You could be like, we're we're the. I think that's a fire truck. Well, maybe your train stations go up.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:38

Maybe. Uh oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:40

Maybe if you can have a priest have them be like, oh, this the Freemasons were trying to build a church and God bestowed their power and you've taken over this land, which doesn't belong to you.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:52

What do you think about the letter that Juan Jose finds?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:57

Uh the one that Juan Jose finds, the one that's like from Okay, again, the English wasn't great, so I'm gonna I'm gonna say what I think was happening, and I need you to steer me yes or no, because it wasn't it wasn't too clear. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:16

The letter that she has is from an old lover, and one of the children are not his yes, and it seems to be that she was cheating on Juan Jose or had been with this man, you know, right before getting together with Juan Jose.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:41

Yeah, I glad I was I was caught up on that.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:47

It's what's happening over there?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

Oh, he's come for me. Fuck it out.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:54

It's a really sweet letter though. There's uh I just watched it, hopefully I can phrase it well enough to the translation at least. But it's something like, and remember I'll always be watching you from a near and distant place uh in the in the corner of the un in the corner of the universe, uh the paradise of your heart, something like that. It's very sappy, but it's sweet.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

It's sappy, it's also kinda but it's a bit strange, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:25

It is, but it's also someone dying of assumedly some sort of degenerative disease.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:32

So Oh, see, I didn't pick up on any of that in my version.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:37

Oh, well, not from the letter, but from Leo later in the movie says that it's something that his father had that was incurable in his time.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:50

Oh, okay, that makes so much more sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:55

Yeah, so you don't know until the end of the movie that that's what's happening.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:01

Okay, okay, that makes so much more sense for me. Okay, Chris, what are these time travel shenanigans? Okay, so she she sees her son as a as a weird creepy old man writing 1-1-1-1-1-1 on a mirror rather than you know just fucking telling her. Which would have been easier.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:20

He could, yeah. But that character, you know, I'll give you that character, that older version of him as presented, seems like he would just say it. He doesn't seem like he would be nervous or beat around the bush.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:36

Yeah, I get okay. See, you see, when you can do that scare, but you could have it as him going, okay, I know when this specific time travel scenario is going to happen because it's already happened, but I don't know when the other ones are going to happen, and I don't know which part of the house it affects. So I'm going to write one one one on everywhere on the house. So if something moves into her timeline, she'll see it. And then you could have a cool thing where the entire house has got these big scraped ones everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:10

Yeah, it suddenly appears everywhere. That'd be neat.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:13

Then you could just leave a lot of notes saying, Oh, by the way, at this time. Also, remember you scared yourself and then you didn't say anything about it. And also that thing that you told your son, which you vet that you already knew you told your son, but still got him killed anyway. Maybe try to rephrase that a little because that didn't work the first time. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:35

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:39

Well, no, it did it did work, right? Because that's well no, it doesn't work. She tries to get out of it, but he's just too. This is what kind of tips it to me of like he just sucks, is that he gets very abusive with her, and it's after she's threatened to leave with the children and divorce him. But that either means that he was like that before or he always would have been physical like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:13

Yeah, stranger, we've had this twice. We've we've gone had this twice this month, haven't we?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:19

What uh which other movie had men?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:23

Oh, promise of men. So we've like we've Remember in Cloverfield? Um I mean they were being assholes to each other. It was a toxic relationship.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:34

That's true, that's true. Um yeah, it is interesting, but this sort of dynamic is coming up.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:43

If this house time travels, okay, and it seems to jump back and forth at random, couldn't you just get a doctor from the future with whatever cure he needs to help him?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:56

No. It's random.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:00

It's r but it seems like everyone that kind of just wants to go to the future seemingly ends up in the future at some point. How do you go back? Can you go back? Or is one still lady version of those in the past? Is she stuck in the past?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:14

The only way Leo went back is he said he spent like all of his time in the house trying to get it to work.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:23

So why does he know about the one one one one thing?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:28

That I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:30

Okay. See I'm um the time travel and this doesn't really work.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:36

No, it doesn't entirely. I I still like it and I like the the core, the emotional core of the movie, but it's not it's not a tight loop. You know, it's not a foolproof, it's not like primer where you could make uh a chart of everything that's happening in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:57

Okay, I'm gonna it's not a hundred percent, there's obviously a lot of differences, but this is very kind of House of Leaves esque.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:09

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:12

You need to read that. I'm curious about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:15

Uh it's it's mid. Just watch a video essay explaining it. It's fine. It's an okay story, but it's really just the gimmick that has people talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:26

Have you ever seen the movie You Should Have Left?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:30

No, is this the Doctor Who episode?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:32

But just No, it's uh Kevin Bacon and Amanda Seifried move into a new home. Kevin Bacon's a writer, and it it's very House of Leaves. Like the walls change, the rooms double back on themselves.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:46

Is that a comedy?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:48

No, it's a horror movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:51

Is it good?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:52

It's alright. It's worth watching. Uh, it's not good enough that I've recommended it already. I'll make that point. But I liked watching it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:06

I'd watch it for her.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:08

Um yeah, she's great. It does the thing well. It it what it's trying to do, it achieves well. The rest of the movie I don't think fully comes together, but the creepy things it's doing with the house are really cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:21

See, for me, I like the reason House of Leaves sticks out to me is not the story and not the non-linear nonsense. The only thing I really love about House of Leaves is that the one thing that everyone knows where he measures the inside of the house and it's like half a centimetre bigger than the outside of the house. Shit like that I find a lot more interesting than anything else.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:45

Yeah, that's super cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:47

It's uh it's like see when in like sci-fi movies where we'll go to a different place and they're like, oh, the water doesn't work like how it should. I'm like, that's very cool. But when you start going, oh, these big sci-fi concepts, and that's a bit boring.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:02

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:07

See, thanks to creepcast, I'm gonna start actually recommending stories, but there's fuck what's that there's a creepcast story that does that very, very, very well. Um it's about a blind woman living in her house, and one day her steps are one step longer. And that's that's the premise of it. What do you mean? Oh, her stairs counts her steps going down every single day, and then one day it's one step longer than it should be. Obviously, if you're blind, you're like, oh, that's strange. But that's um you could miscount that. Oh, it's called I'm Blind, I'm not sure how many steps my staircase has. It's a fun little horror story. I think I might also get into some similar shit. It's been a while since I've heard I'm gonna listen to that tonight once we're done with this.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:02

I'll definitely read this.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:04

It's weird because I don't how many how much stuff's going on in this movie. But we've talked about this in a lot shorter time than we have in a lot simpler movies.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:16

Yeah, I mean it's it was longer than I expected when I realized you didn't like it. Because something like Thanksgiving was less than an hour.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:26

Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:28

Yeah, that was dire. I feel like we've gotten some good conversation out of this movie at least.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:35

Yeah, I feel like we've got a good balance so far, things going off of shit and good stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:43

Yeah, and this is this is a Venezuelan movie which we haven't done. This is sort of a it's a horror fantasy that's trying more to be charming and emotional than scary. You know, it's it's just very different from things that we've done.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:05

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this not also our first? Oh, I suppose if you separate religious horror and paranormal horror, this might be our first paranormal movie. Because I feel like I I never choose them because I think they're incredibly dull. And I'm having a look through maybe or Good Boy, Good Boy is paranormal.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:34

Oh Blair Witch.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:39

Not really, you know. Yeah, that's interesting. Sort of. Good boy and Blair Witch are both tangential, but I've looked around and my hat has caught onto his bar and he seems stuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:53

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:54

He's just dangling. Hold on, there you go, you're okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:01

Well, incantation is pretty supernatural.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:06

But is that religious horror? Do you count religious horror and paranormal horror to be the same?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:12

I was trying to draw the distinction. I feel like incantation Rick or Mortis, you know, we've sort of danced in, but you're right, we haven't done just straight up like a ghost movie, like a classic ghost movie, really.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:28

Because we're shit, we're all shit, they're all the same movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:33

Kind of, yeah. I mean, I'd definitely be interested to talk about some.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:38

No, because every it'll be people move into a house, and then one of them will have a trauma, but they don't know if the ghost is related to the house or the trauma, and then there'll be a weird character that comes in and goes, This house is haunted. Did you know that? And they're like, No. And then spooky shenanigans will go up, and then someone will go crawling about the ceiling or flipping up in the sky, and then the movie's done. I've never seen poltergeist poltergeist is sick. I do like poltergeist. That's because that's that's fucking nice spillboard though, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:11

Of course it's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:13

Are you excited for disclosure, D?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:16

I am avoiding information about it. Yeah, that's what's that's why I'm not excited about it, is that people are going, I don't know about this. And I'm gonna keep myself in spirits by just not learning anything.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:33

But the time the Times Square, did you see the Times Square billboard?

unknown 1:21:37

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:38

I heard about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:40

Oh, it looks so cool, and I was like, oh, this is this is gonna be the marketing, like super, super secretive, some weird shit going on. This is gonna be cool. And then he went, Oh, by the way, here's a full trailer, and it looks cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:53

Frustrating. It would have been so much cooler if we got some sort of secret movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:02

With like keeping it like shit mysterious and weird. You got the long legs ARG. Um true. Holcomb has that weird flashing trailer that doesn't really show you anything.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:15

Holcomb is the one with Adam Scott, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:18

Yeah, and it's got some really special effect monster, but the trailer's can't be excited for that.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:26

Holcomb because it's by that director. By that director, it's by the guy who did Oddity and Caviar.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:36

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:40

Oh, it's gonna be another guy who goes to a weird place, and then there's some generic spooky shit, and then the ending's dull. Unusual.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:51

I'm gonna make us watch one of those at some point. Probably Holcomb at this point.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:56

Yeah, I would rather do it. I'd get see, I want to give the guy a chance because I think he does atmosphere and tone well.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:02

And then he also They're so good, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:06

The tone's good in these movies, and then the he can get a good performance out of people, but then the scares are just so generic that they dull me. And then I always feel like the actual spooky stuff looks really bad, and then the monster that is in the Hokum advertising looks pretty fucking cheap as well. Undertone is another movie, it did good marketing. I'm excited for Undertone.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:33

You haven't seen that yet?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:35

Is it out?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:37

I I have no idea. I just started hearing about it recently. I'm excited for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:42

No, I think it's out in America and it's out here in like April or May. So do you know what that means?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:47

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:48

I'm pirating that shit. And that way.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:51

Yeah, released a week ago or so here.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:54

I hear middling things, but I hear like for people that it worked, it really worked.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:00

I think we'll like it. We have a horror podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:03

Yeah, see, we've got an investment in it. And also I like Pontypool. And that's like a summer.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:08

Ponty pool fucking rules. We gotta do Pontypool on here on here.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:12

On here.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:14

On here. Ponty pool is spoilers, like I skip over like 10 seconds, but Pontypool is Lovecrafty horror, right? Maybe. Maybe it's a discussion for another time, but that's Pontypool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:33

I feel like anyway. There's so many like middle budget 2000 movies. Like I'm looking at like now, even just my DVD setup, Pontypool is next to the loved ones, which is next to hard candy.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:46

Oh, hard candy would be a really good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:49

Oh, did you see there's a nice Blu-ray box set coming out for the Devil's Candy? Oh. You seen the Devil's Candy?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:59

I have not. I don't know what the Devil's Candy is offhand.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:04

It's like a uh family go to a house and the father's a painter. He starts going insane and making this big satanic painting. It's similar to like Bliss, but like paranormal, and I think there's some noncery going about.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:17

Interesting. That sounds pretty rad.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:20

Okay, my hamster's figured out he can get up to his bars, and I'm now watching him attempt to construct a climbing frame out of his food bowl, a spray, and his coconut house.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:32

You think he'll make it?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:34

Oh, he you leave him long enough, he'll he could solve astrophysics if it was getting him up to the escape route.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:42

I believe that. I'm looking at my Blu-rays and DVDs. We could do uh Mutant Chronicles or Bubba Hotep. You know, such classics.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:56

I feel like I've curated a better list of movies than you.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:02

What do you mean? You don't want to watch Mutant Chronicles?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:06

I've moved over to the next role where we're gonna be. What about Altitude? I've not seen Altitude. Altitude fucking rules. Well, the next role has Session 9.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:19

I remember being bad, but Meat Canyon said it was good, so it makes me want to revisit it. I like session nine. I've got EXTE hair extensions, which was a bitch to find. Um I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:32

That's the C on Sono one about killer hair, that I think's fucking awesome. Um the fuck is that? What is that? Oh, it's slow motion. I only have slow motion. Snowtown?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:48

Oh, that's the that's the based on a real murder one. Ah um The Mist, The Bay, Rosemary's Baby, Bugsy Malone.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:59

Some people die.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:16

It's kinda neat. Is it like we gotta do the blob at some point? I have just been naming the worst movies I can find on my wall, I'll admit.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:26

I've got the ruins, I've not seen ruins.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:29

You haven't seen The Ruins. I'm gonna pick at some point because I have the Blu-ray for the Ruins, I have the book for the ruins, and I have the audiobook narrated by Patrick Wilson.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:43

Yo! Patrick Wilson?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:45

Yeah, you gotta listen to that audiobook, man. It's really good.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:49

If it's on Spotify, maybe. Maybe. I'm still in my Bjork phase. It's gonna take a lot to get me out of my bjork phase. I've been straight bjorking it for like four months.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:00

Is really good. I really like it.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:05

I'm just watching this little guy. He's like doing the math. He's looking at each corner and he's looking at his stuff. And he's like, okay, if that guy's like his I know his brain is like the size of a pistachio. And it's fingers. He's getting his he's brought over his uh he has a little you know, see the things that kids move, it got the little beads on it to do maths. Yeah, he's got one of those he likes, he's trying to he's trying to move one of those over.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:32

Oh god. Little abacus one.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:36

Yes, he loves the abacus. It rolls and makes little noises.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:40

What about Legion? We gotta watch Legion at some point. I've not seen Legion. You know what Legion is?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:49

Isn't is is Legion like the weird angel one?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:53

Yeah, it's the angel movie where everyone's in a diner.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:59

See if we will do like weird 2000s, cool religious stuff, I've still not seen Constantine with Keanu V.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:06

Oh Constantine's really good. Priest? Have you seen Priest?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:10

I've not I can't it's hard to get me into action 2000s movies unless it's uh Wolf Soldiers or I I like Underworld for their specs.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:22

Good practical effects.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:27

I haven't seen any Underworld movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:30

I think you'd like Underworld. I think you'd really like Underworld actually.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:36

No, maybe you should pull it up a that's that's unique. It's vampires and werewolves or Lycanthrope, as they're called it.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:44

True, yeah. I'd probably like the lore in that.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:47

It is it is really trying to be the matrix, but it's I mean okay job. Do you have anything else to say about this this film? Because we've just been talking about other films and my hamster.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:02

Yeah, that's fine. That's sort of the vibe of the podcast at this point, isn't it? Uh I don't know. It's I liked it. I don't know that I'd recommend it or watch it again. I like watching it. I'm glad I saw it. I had a notion of it. I'm not sure why. Probably because they were trying to remake it at some point.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:27

Probably because the plot is in the fucking title, Chris.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:31

Probably, and it's a it's a notable title. You hear the title and you go, huh. What's up with that house?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:40

I don't. I go, oh but so the the house at the end of the street, you've just taken that and tried to be fancy. The poster doesn't do it any any service. Good god. The posters for this movie are terrible. Every single one of them are awful.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:00

I don't get how you get bad movie posters. Because surely you could just find like a student that does graphic design and pay him like 200 and he'll shit you out something half decent.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:11

I guess so, but maybe it's just something you know you trust the wrong people, or that's just you don't put enough atten pay enough attention to the art like that. Well you it's the most it's been the most distributed Venezuelan film in the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:30

Oh yeah, so I got it got like like 60 times its budget back. Make way money. I think it also like was shown at Cannes. I don't I don't think the Cannes Festival would like this. Cannes are Iffy on horror as is. So now Cans like fucking everything nowadays, don't they?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:49

Yeah, they give everything a fucking 10 minute standing ovation. No man.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:54

And the one the one film they're famous for fucking hating is Irreversible, which is one of the best movies to ever premiered Cannes.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:01

That's a Gaspar Noé movie, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:04

That's the one that's the backwards one rape scene.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:08

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:12

Yeah, which is why I think Let's watch it at some point. I've heard about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:18

Yeah, but I I like that like people are like, oh, how dare he just rap scene make me feel bad? Fuck face.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:29

I went into this rape movie to have a good time, Gasper. What have you done to me? Oh shit, I need to I saw a clip earlier of him walking out of cans to like people booing him, and he looks so happy. He's dripped out to fuck, he's got the full cast with him. Bro's smiling ear to ear, and I need to find you because it's one of the hardest clips. Did you say Hideo Kojima's hanging out with Gasper in a way right now? One more time. He's hanging out with Gasper right now. No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:02

I barely processed that sentence.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:05

You barely I mean it's kind of an insane sentence. Like how's it?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:10

Is it interesting? Is that I wonder if they're playing Death Stranding too.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:13

Yeah, but that's what I'm thinking. Is it like a fan thing or is it like a business thing?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:18

Man, oh they gotta be fans of each other. That'd be fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:23

No, I think it could work because he's work Hideo's working on that horror experience, not really a video game. So if he's like, I need something shocking and strange.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:36

Get me Sophia Butella.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:39

Nah, I would well I was gonna say you hit up Julia DeCordeaux, but apparently her new movie's kind of ass. Oh really? Damn. Hit up Coralite Farger.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:49

Who's that?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:51

The Substance and Revenge.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:53

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:55

Just any French person. Get the French in.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:00

Apparently the the reception of this movie is pretty similar to what you've not entirely what you've said, but somewhere between what we're both saying, I guess. That it's it has a strong emotional core, but the aesthetics are leaving a lot to be desired at times. You mean doodoo? I think you mean ass water.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:21

I think you mean dog shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:23

I mean i it is lit like a soap opera, probably because most of the people that they hired to work on the lighting crew shot Venezuelan soap operas, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:35

Oh, it's not my issue. There's micro budget films out there that look good. It's not their excuse. I'm not giving them the excuse.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:46

I'm more excusing it in a historical context.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:51

For being they can't light their movie well, that's not my fault.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:56

It's pretty impressive that they made a movie. I think that's where we should leave it.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:00

Nah, nah. My boy Robert Edgers was lighting scenes with candles and getting mad that he had to use too many candles. Only a fancy lighting setup, you just need to put some fucking effort into the lighting.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:13

Uh that's uncalled for, I would say, to say that they didn't put effort into the lighting.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:20

But you any any dark scenes just blue? It's just washed with blue because they went, oh, we've lit it too dark, we have to crank up the brightness. And they're like, oh, it looks like it's a big thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:28

It is, but that's what they're trying to do. They're they shouldn't be trying to do that. But it's not that there's no effort going into the lighting.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:38

I would say there was no effort put into this lighting. I think the acting and the writing, I think there's effort put into it. I think the lighting team have asked for job. There's no way that this was someone's best. Students can do better than that. I will see the scene, the scene the scene.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:56

You're assuming that there's one goal for lighting. I'm not saying that this was right, that what they did was good, but they weren't trying to achieve what your notion of good lighting is at that time. You know, they see some people put their effort in and lit this movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:17

That scene looks good.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:20

Anyway, we we seem to reach an argument at the end of this.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:24

Yeah, that's fine. It'll keep it interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:28

I think I'm more harsher on movies than you in general.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:32

Definitely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:34

Because you go in the perspective of, well, someone spent their time making this art, and I take its perspective, yeah, but I give two hours to this art and you like to watch it.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:45

I think that's fine, though. I think that's a good balance, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:49

If someone's a bad painter, they can go, well, you have to respect my art or I made it. But I can also go, yeah, but shit art.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:56

Yeah. Right. Like, oh well, who cares that they spent 50 hours painting that?

SPEAKER_01 1:37:02

No, they can beat with it. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna give it as flowers.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:07

Well, on that note, if you have comments or you want to tell us what you think about the house at the end of time, please email us at theuncannyvalleypodcast at gmail.com. You can hit us up on Instagram at the uncannyvalleypod. Yeah, uh rate and review. If you review us, I'll find it or read it.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:28

Someone who doesn't rate us five stars.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:30

If you rate us anything else, it's not a real rating.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:34

So yeah, that was a bot, I'm sure. But Chris, we you you this is the third time in a row, Chris. Who would you recommend this movie to watch?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:44

Someone's just looking to watch a Spanish horror movie. That's mostly what I was curious about getting out of this.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:51

Venezuelan horror movie, Chris. Come on now. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:57

And just assume it's Spanish, come on.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:00

It's the only Venezuelan horror movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:05

I would say I would recommend it to someone if they like House of Leaves and want uh a sci-fi twist uh on supernatural and have probably already seen Interstellar.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:20

It is a weird little bit of interstellar too.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:30

Yeah, you're you're somewhere in the ballpark.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:34

It's the other end of the ballpark, but I mean you're swinging.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:38

Yeah, it's in the the ballpen.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:41

Like if they're if if interstellars hitting the home gun, they're maybe selling hot dogs, but you know, they're still involved. They're part of a team.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:58

So see every single week. Is this where we're gonna go where the fuck are we supposed to cut this nonsense?

SPEAKER_02 1:39:05

Uh I'll cut it at some point before now. Yeah, I was trying to think if there was anything else that was missing, but I guess not. Oh, what are we doing the back rooms next week? We're doing the back rooms next week.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:20

We are doing a bit and I sent you like a two and a half minute voice note breaking down where we could stop and start, and then you didn't respond to that.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:30

Fuck, I didn't respond to that. Alright, I'll listen to it again and respond to it because I did listen to that, and then I I was definitely out. I remember being out and about when I listened to it. You were talking about somewhere before Project 2.3 or something is like a 45-minute clip, and that's the uh something point to version 2 is is probably the best place to end, but that's getting the movie length.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:55

Yeah, it was because I was I was in my VR headset, so I had you on a window to the side with the column, and then I had uh I was looking up shit on a browser in another. You were doing minority report in the tab next to me, so I was trying to hold on to the voice note command as I was scrolling through YouTube and then trying to figure out what episode is supposed to be which and if this playlist is in order, whilst also trying to look up stuff so it's a bit all over the place, but I mean I feel I got the information through at some point in the two and a half minutes.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:29

Alright, alright, yeah. Listen to that again, I'll let you know. What whatever you suggested sounds fine to me. I don't mind putting a little bit of time into it, especially because it's not you know, this is something you I can watch a little bit by bit instead of like a movie you gotta set aside two hours to watch.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:47

Yeah, that's a good shit about it because there's like really no if you do like Halo Corp this like special episodes when they drop, or you're talking about like 45 minutes long. The the longest one I think is um the oldest view rolling giant one, which is like my favourite one, and it's like an hour and ten minutes. It's like a short movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:08

Oh nice, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:10

There's a bunch of because it's okay. See, we ever did the Rolling Giant, we would do the two like two-minute opening ones that's set up like themes, and then just a short movie. He's made other shit after it, but it just it just fucking pills in comparison. Like it's well made, but it's like it's not the Rolling Giant movie that he made.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:31

Yeah, so that's the peak for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:34

Yeah, because for me, I feel like that that movie that he made is like all that ties all the themes together really nicely. You have to do a bit behind the scenes to know what his attempt is, and I'm like, oh that's cool. And then there's like a wee teaser thing at the end, and I'm like, that's a nice ending. And then I go on his YouTube like six months later, and there's like four new parts. And I was like, nah, no king. Just focus on your backgrounds movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:57

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:59

Anyway, backgrounds.