UV27 - IT'S ALIVE (1974)

Join charlie and chris for the birth for their first born child but as hospital staff get butchered and milkmen go missing, has the miracle of life become a curse?

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SPEAKER_03 0:00

Yes. As I walk through the uncanny valley of death, you shall fear medal. For I am medieval.

SPEAKER_04 0:19

Welcome to Uncanny Valley. I'll just start that. We don't have to launch into the movie. I'll just say that. This is one more time.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Just jump right in, no you have it, all you're like, we're getting this over with.

SPEAKER_07 0:35

No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 0:38

Cut all that.

SPEAKER_07 0:45

Yeah. It's kind of a sleepy movie, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

A sleepy m oh, we're using the Anthony Fantano critique score.

SPEAKER_06 0:59

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Oh he got he got his ass ripped out of him for saying you know the rapper Lil Zan that became a meme?

SPEAKER_05 1:07

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

He was the guy that ate too many hot cheetos and burned a hole in his stomach.

SPEAKER_05 1:13

I did not hear about that. That's scary.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Oh well he's he's infamously shit and he had a bad album called Total Xanarchy that uh Anthony Fantano referred to as sleepy music. And I don't think he's ever lived down sleepy music.

SPEAKER_03 1:29

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Because it's like what does that even mean? What's what's a sleepy song?

SPEAKER_04 1:35

Yeah, I mean that just gives low tempo to me. That doesn't say anything other than a low tempo.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

And it's like it can't it's not even a valid critique, because what if you want to make a sleepy song? Well, that's like your whole vibe.

SPEAKER_04 1:49

Yeah, I don't think it is necessarily a critique because I also There are movies I love that are what I call sleepy spy thrillers, which are there's a lot of more adult spy movies, which are just people having conversations and then sitting in a room staring at each other or waiting and watching, thinking something's gonna happen. I I think you can make a sleepy movie that works. And I don't think this movie. Well, I guess since we are talking about the movie, welcome to Uncanny Valley, and we're talking about It's Alive today, uh, directed by Larry Cohen. This movie is not sauceless. This has some charm to it, and it's clear that he has what he needs to make a really effective movie. But even though a lot of the things in this movie work, you know, the editing is kind of choppy, the actors aren't tonally consistent with each other, even though they're all pretty much doing what they're being asked. There's things that just don't fully click that make it not really it doesn't draw you in the way that something else might that I'd call sleepy that I think is effective.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

Oh, that's interesting. So you you seem to you're more on offense about this. Well, how would you compare this to like Basket Case then? Because Basket Case is a very it's strange. I want to say it's a similar film, but it's also not similar whatsoever plot-wise, but it's got the same like energy. We're rocking with the same.

SPEAKER_04 3:35

It does, and it's the same idea, basically. Uh Basket Case this is better than Basket Case.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Yeah, this is so much better than Basket Case.

SPEAKER_04 3:49

Way better. It's way more watchable. There's no element of this movie that I dislike or think is outright bad. Whereas Basket Case, I could say it works as sort of a time capsule of what it's you know, where it was filmed, but it it doesn't work so much on its own. This I think just doesn't it didn't have enough time, or there weren't enough people working on the script, or uh it just didn't have enough support in production to be Hello Wally. Uh to be what it could have been. Because I think this could be a pretty fun movie. There's effective images in the movie, there's a couple good moments of humor, there's some decent tension, but it never really I think effectively makes you care for the characters or think anyone's in real danger. The ending I love. I think the ending is incredible, we'll get to it.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

What did you think of this?

SPEAKER_00 5:04

See, I think this is this is definitely based on level of expectations, because I don't know what you expected going into this, but I assumed this was going to be utter garbage. And so when it came out to be half decently competently made, I I had a lot of fun with it. I think there's a lot of charm to it. I think in particular, oh my god, see, see John P. Ryan is Frank Davis. I think he does an incredible job of leading this.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

That's the lead actor.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

Yeah, he feels he's so human and he's got like He's such a New York guy.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

He's such a New York dad. I love him.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

It's like he's he brings a like but there's I think there's charm to how kind of I don't want to say cheap, because it's not cheap, because the amount of police cars and extras he has in this movie, but there's like an amateur charm to it that I really like, especially when it comes to see some of the dialogue just not getting picked up from the mic, or some people not saying their lines properly, or when characters start accidentally talking over each other. I think it's I think it gives like a I don't want to say I don't want to liken it to Rick and Morty, but see that kind of like naturalistic dialogue, it feels less like a script and merges like people hanging about. If you get what I mean.

SPEAKER_06 6:24

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_04 6:26

It feels very That's what I like about this director, is he's very New York. He's just a New York dude, and it feels very lived in. Everything feels grounded, set in the area it's set in. Uh these people feel real. I think that's what's most effective about the movie, especially compared to something like Basket Case, where everyone just feels like an actor with lines. These characters feel effectively lived in, even when they are being. I think the wife is sometimes acting like she's in a different movie. And it's fine. I think she does a good job, but the the movie doesn't do what it needs to to portray her. I don't know, more more editing or something more interesting directing while she's being cuckoo bananas in the middle of the movie would have been helpful.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

But is cuckoo banana is a scientific term?

SPEAKER_04 7:30

Yeah, exactly. Uh the way it's presented, there's a room, there's a scene specifically in their living room where she is being pretty off her rocker uh hiding that she knows the new son is in their home. And the way it's presented by the camera is sort of like a stage play, which I don't think benefits her performance or the situation at hand. I think they could have played it a lot creepier or funnier, whichever way they wanted to go.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

The wife should definitely have had some more screen time. I think I think we don't use that to its fullest potential. But at the same time, no, she is, she's really good, especially with the burping scene at the beginning. It's a great scene. Very reminiscent of weirdly, you know, dark ox scene from Spider-Man 2.

SPEAKER_04 8:29

I was gonna say that. It really is. It feels so dark ox, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

I don't know if it's just the New York like jumping into like Sam Raimi levels of absurd horror.

SPEAKER_04 8:42

Kinda, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Um but yeah, she's green it, but I think the story because I went into this going, okay, this is going to be again like a basket case where it's gonna be a little monster flick where some weird shit's happening, and there's this little creepy monster going about, and it was just gonna be like a cheap splatterfest B movie. But it's kind of more like a psychological horror from the dad's perspective, because he is fuck he's falling apart throughout this entire film. You see him going from such like a a charming, nice man to hunting down his demon son with a revolver that he's kept in his drawer.

SPEAKER_04 9:23

It's wild when the cop confronts him and says, You have to be the one to do it, don't you? Insane.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Do you know what fried me about that like police Frank interaction? He says to Frank, do you know how to use a gun after he just nailed the demon baby in the dark, jumping between his son and the gun? It's like of course this man knows how to use a gun.

SPEAKER_03 9:50

After he said it might be dead because of what you did.

SPEAKER_06 9:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Man, Frank's insane. So so overall, you did enjoy the movie.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

Yeah, definitely. And you're totally right that it's expectations because I've seen the stuff. So I've seen sort of when he coalesces a bit more and when he finds his groove and can get everything sort of singing together. Uh this watching this I really enjoyed, but I also it looks more like a proof of concept having seen something that he's made after it.

SPEAKER_00 10:35

Well, this was his first big like movie to actually Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 10:40

I I don't criticize it. I think it's really good for what it is, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

And it is to be it seems from what I've seen from behind the scenes and interviews he's done, he's definitely more of a gorilla filmmaker, and this is a Warner Brothers production. That's the thing.

SPEAKER_04 10:57

At this time you would not have had to pay for permits or anything to film on the street.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

Oh no, from what I see in interviews, he is supposed to pay for permits at some points, and he just doesn't. He's one of those type of filmmakers. Again, very much.

SPEAKER_04 11:12

Well that's yeah, that's what um oh god. Not Frankenheimer. Uh Friedkin.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Frankenheimer?

SPEAKER_04 11:20

Uh yeah, no. Uh different director. That's what William Friedkin did for the French Connection. Was he just shot on the streets of New York, that whole chase scene.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

And uh It's insane to me to think that like between the 70s and 80s, there were so many films just being made where people went, ah fuck the police will just do it and hope we don't get caught. And then it somehow probably the busiest city in the world at that time.

SPEAKER_04 11:49

And it let them I'm sure to get the cop cars and stuff in this, you know, they probably had one or two props, and then maybe they paid a couple off-duty cops to be extras.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

You know, being a Warner Brothers.

SPEAKER_04 12:04

A lot of stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

I gotta imagine being Warner Brothers, they probably have like the odd police cars we just use for every movie, and they're like, we'll just use what we can.

SPEAKER_04 12:15

That's true. I wasn't paying attention to that it's Warner Brothers, because I I do consider it a lower budget, but it it is just made a while ago.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

So should we should are we gonna go through the film or are we just gonna yappy?

SPEAKER_04 12:30

Well, yeah, let's start with the hospital scene at the very least, which is well before that I want to start with the movie starts and they wake up and it's the most leisurely waterbreaking. Uh she says to her husband, Oh, it's time. And then they start getting ready to go to the hospital. He's putting his tie and suit on, they drop their son off with their unc with his uncle. Isn't are you supposed to rush to the hospital at this point?

SPEAKER_00 13:03

I mean, I suppose if she's not an inhibitor giving birth is a long process. If she's like That's true, I've got a few contractions in the go. Probably best just to keep it calm. Like I if I think if if your wife is in the position where she's like, Oh, I think I'm ready to give birth, let's go to the hospital. The worst response would be to go, let's fucking go get the kids.

SPEAKER_05 13:24

Very true. That's a very good point.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

But uh yeah, I look it it's weird how casual he is, because even like the scene in the hospital where she's she's prepping for birth, and he goes into the waiting room with dumb, dumb, dumbest and even dumber. And we're having a poker game, one of them's having a fight with the vending machine. Can't fuck down, it's just the entire time. But it's but it's like that sets up, oh, this is a comedy horror. But it's not really a comedy horror at all. It's like the first 15 minutes are maybe considered, and in past then it's just I mean, it's kind of sad, isn't it, with the story?

SPEAKER_04 14:13

There's some moments I can't think of any off the top of my head. I have it playing in the background, so if I see them, I'll let you know. There's some moments that felt comedic to me, but I think the directing didn't sell them enough. Which we'll definitely see Larry Cohen improve as a director, and I I feel like learn to capture the comedic stuff in a much better way.

SPEAKER_00 14:37

One thing about Owen. Yeah, it'll be like the best part about being able to go chronologically through the four films that we've done. We can see well, I think the next one. What's what's the next one we've got after this? It is God Told Me To. That's a own.

SPEAKER_04 14:54

Which I haven't heard of before, so I'm curious about.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Yeah, that was Gorilla Cycle filmmaking, even though that was an actual company, but he has the rights to it. I don't know, or some weird shit with that. Then Visitor Q is back to Gorilla Filmmaking. And then I think the stuff will be under production, so it'll be that I'm Did you say Visitor Q? No, no, we're not. I mean we could cover Visitor Q, but I feel like I feel like it's a strange film to be able to talk about. I've got the Blu-ray coming in the summer, so if you want to get in a Takashi Mike binge we could Wild.

SPEAKER_07 15:31

Maybe a different one.

SPEAKER_04 15:34

Yeah, I'm so excited to watch Q. That one I just don't know.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Oh my god, it looks so good and so bad at the same time, I'm so excited for it.

SPEAKER_07 15:48

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

But yeah one thing I have to point out whilst we're talking about the hospital scene. What what is what is him with this this fucking this Scottish nurse? Okay, I I didn't offense to this because he says, Oh, my grandmum used to call them the wee curries and the wee cubs. No one says that. Let me put it, that's not that's not a Gaelic thing whatsoever. I've never, never in my life has anyone ever said that. And then when the Scottish nurse tells him that she knows that, he goes, Oh, so you're Irish.

SPEAKER_03 16:25

Do you say, Oh, you know a little Gaelic?

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Yeah. And she goes, No, I'm Scottish. And he goes, Oh, so you're Scottish and Irish. It's like, no. Gaelic is a Scottish language. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_04 16:40

He's just not listening to her.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

And is it not strange how whilst his wife's giving birth, he decided I'm just going to go stare at these strangers' babies? For what I assume to be multiple hours.

SPEAKER_04 16:54

No, it felt very of the time to me. Of like, I don't know, just not involved in the process at all. Uh willing to be there, but also not feeling the responsibility to be there. And just sort of like, oh, my son is being born. Let me think about that.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

I also feel like modern day you couldn't like a big man in a suit could not go up into the hospital ward and stare at random people's babies, start speaking Gaelic to himself.

SPEAKER_05 17:25

No.

unknown 17:26

No.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

I guess it's a community hospital, but I still feel like someone would be calling it out.

SPEAKER_04 17:33

Yeah, that's a red line.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

But yeah, whilst okay, so he does he does occasionally go in to visit uh Leonor, is that her name? Uh his wife, she doesn't get much screen time, I don't think her name's to him. Yeah, I don't remember. Crazy that during birth, when he comes into her, the first thing that she says to him is, You're not going to feel trapped like last time.

SPEAKER_04 18:02

I felt really sad about that.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

And it's like you seem like a happy family unit. Where where did where did that come from?

SPEAKER_06 18:11

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

Leela? Her name is Leela? That's fascinating.

SPEAKER_04 18:18

Um so um Oh no, we're looking at a totally different movie, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

Before shit hits the fan, the doctor investing, like looking at the baby, because the baby's coming soon. He says, Oh, the baby's got a gigantic head, but she's got a big pelvis, it's okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:47

Absolutely nuts.

SPEAKER_04 18:48

It is funny when the doctor's like, yeah, how big was your last baby? Seven pounds? Oh, yeah, this one is uh, this one's about ten, ten and a half. This one's a big baby. Like trying not to freak her out, but also kind of freaking out himself.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

He's immediately like, oh, it's all fine, it'll be 30 seconds. He immediately turns to the nurse and he's like, This fucking baby's big man, it's baby. I'm scared. Hold me. He's like, just push, it's okay, and then he's like, Oh, I've just cut you. Did you feel? Yeah, I cut you.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

You didn't feel that right.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

Not working.

SPEAKER_04 19:34

When Frank is looking at the babies, we have maybe one of my favorite shots in the movie. It pans over and you see a nurse stumble out of the doorway, clutch his throat, and fall over dead. Really funny.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Yeah, it's kind of a worrying scenario, I would say, if your wife's giving birth.

SPEAKER_04 19:54

Yeah, he honestly doesn't respond with enough urgency, even though he is concerned.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Uh what do you think of the the death makeup on the nurses?

SPEAKER_04 20:06

I think it's fun. It's not necessarily convincing, but I don't think it needs to be. It's not trying to be realistic.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

It's not trying to be, but it really is a smooth mattel sauce on our faces. It is, yeah. So you would think the makeup artist behind us is an amateur, correct?

SPEAKER_04 20:26

Not an amateur, but also not probably not an expert, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

Do you want me to hit you with something spellbinding?

SPEAKER_07 20:33

Oh, hit me.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

The makeup artist is Rick Baker. Now if you go crazy. Yeah, the guy that worked on Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Videodrome, Men in Black. Man, it's a fucking crazy ass resume.

SPEAKER_07 20:53

Well, this is before all of that.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

It wasn't before fucking Star Wars.

SPEAKER_07 20:59

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

Or was it before Star Wars?

SPEAKER_04 21:02

No, it was, wasn't it? Wasn't Star Wars 1979?

SPEAKER_00 21:06

This was three years before Star Wars. So this man hopped off of a tomato tube and immediately went to making fucking planet and spaceship miniatures.

SPEAKER_04 21:18

Yeah. So that's this is pretty cool. This is a good movie that just has it feels like a lot of proof of talent and proof of concept in it.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

I expected I was gonna click on it and it was gonna be like, oh, it's the same makeup artist that worked on Frankenhooker in some like found footage movies in the 90s with some little monsters. That's right. But no, it's like one of the best makeup actors in in the game. Whilst we're talking about cast, the composer did you notice that the music was The music's pretty good, isn't it? Yeah, Bernard Herman, also known as the composer for Psycho, Taxi Driver, and Cape Fear.

SPEAKER_07 22:09

No, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Also, a a little a little indie movie called Citizen Kane. He did the composition for that.

SPEAKER_05 22:18

Shit.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

Why? How how expensive must these people are? Was it just everyone was cheap in the 70s?

SPEAKER_07 22:28

Uh both.

SPEAKER_04 22:30

Maybe both. I didn't realize Larry Cohen wrote Maniac Cop.

SPEAKER_07 22:35

That's good credit.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

I think Larry Cohen also wrote all of his movies. I watched an interview. He said he wouldn't want to direct something someone else wrote. So I'm sure he's the writer for everything going forward.

SPEAKER_05 22:48

Have you seen Maniac Cop?

SPEAKER_00 22:50

I've not seen Maniac Cop. It sounds like a comic book I've read once.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

How how does this sound to you? Uh movie with a Robert Zadar. I believe I think it's Robert Zadar plays an evil slasher cop in New York City and Bruce Campbell is the main character.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

Is an is this an A Cab film? What's the uh no?

SPEAKER_07 23:19

I think they're because it's from Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

It's from 1988. I'm looking at it right now.

SPEAKER_05 23:26

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

That's fucking. So no, it's not it's not that deep, but I feel like a uh police officer going around New York and killing people as an aged well is a concept for a film. Tell me there's there's two sequels. And he also made Maniac.

SPEAKER_04 23:47

Oh, I didn't realize he made maniac. No, he didn't. He didn't.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

He did. He did. He made maniac eight years before Maniac Cop.

SPEAKER_04 23:57

No, this is William Lustig, C.A. Rosenberg, and Joe Spinell worked on Maniac.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Yeah, William Lustig is the guy that made Maniac Cop.

SPEAKER_07 24:08

Oh, sorry, I'm Yeah, I was thinking about uh Larry Cohen. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Wait, so is is is Maniac Cop a spiritual sequel to Maniac?

SPEAKER_06 24:20

I can't be. I guess.

SPEAKER_05 24:26

No, it can be. I just never thought about it like that. That's fascinating.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

The the first MCU. The Maniac Cinema.

SPEAKER_05 24:35

The Maniac Cop Universe.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

That could be a fun month. You doing Maniac, Maniac Cop 2 and 3.

SPEAKER_04 24:43

That'd be fun. I've only seen Maniac Cop 1 and 2.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Month May May Mania next year.

SPEAKER_06 24:51

Would we have to do the Elijah Wood Maniac? No. No. Okay. Is it no good?

SPEAKER_00 25:00

No, I just don't care for Elijah Wood too much.

SPEAKER_06 25:03

Oh, interesting. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Like he seems he seems okay. I don't mind Elijah Wood, but like I don't feel he ever really brings anything to anything. I feel like he's just kind of there.

SPEAKER_07 25:16

Fair, I can see that.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

I never went Elijah Wood was so good in that thing. I've always been like a true. The my favourite Elijah Wood moment was he came on stage during E3 once, went to say his first line, then fucked up and went, oh no. Really, really panic at the camera.

SPEAKER_07 25:36

That's really funny.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

It is really funny, and I can't reference oh no, because no one knows what the fuck I'm talking about. It's fucking niche.

SPEAKER_05 25:52

Whoa, there's a Larry Cohen movie called Special Effects. A director makes a movie based on a murder he committed.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Yeah, that's what I wanted to do, but we decided it probably wasn't horror enough because Soy Lund is the is the lead.

SPEAKER_07 26:10

Yeah, right, right. I still want to watch that at some point, though.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

Yes, it's on the list. It's on the list. That and Return to Salem's Lot after Wheelies 4. What a crazy filmography, this man.

SPEAKER_04 26:25

Yeah, I forgot there are we were looking through a few that aren't horror, horror that do look really good.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Like the man even made black exploitation films, and it seems like they were good as a as a white New York man.

SPEAKER_06 26:41

That's wild. Good for him.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

In fact that you didn't get any backlash from that.

SPEAKER_07 26:47

It's insane. He made a movie about J. Edgar Hoover.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

So we get to be fair, seeba's like Dawcock massacre scene. It goes pretty fucking hard. It's pretty rules. Um probably the most blood we'll get throughout the rest of the movie, because this movie's I don't think they had a pretty big blood budget going forward.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

No, that seemed like it. It seems like they they got tired of cleaning it up after that first scene.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

It seems like someone went to a Halloween shop and went, they have two tubes left. This is all we've got, make the best of it. And then he used one full tube for that one scene.

SPEAKER_04 27:33

And then one for the rest of the movie.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

Um I like that the police show up with shotguns to fend off this this baby that is bitten people. I don't know what that says about New York, but the the instant reaction for police is send an entire team of shotguns to this baby.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

That's what I also liked about the cop who asked him if he had ever if he can use a gun, is after he answers, he the cop then says, uh, alright, I'm giving you a rifle to defend yourself.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Well New York. I've gotta imagine it was.

SPEAKER_06 28:18

Well, yeah, I mean, uh do you know about the son of Sam?

SPEAKER_00 28:21

I do know of a son of Sam.

SPEAKER_06 28:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Okay, if we're going if we're talking about son of Sam, do you believe that it was just him, or do you think there was others involved?

SPEAKER_04 28:34

I I think in most of these cases there's probably other people getting involved when you publicize something like that.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Yeah, but Son of Sam is the one where people are like, no, there must be more people than just him.

SPEAKER_07 28:50

Uh I w I haven't thought about it specifically that much.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

It's just the New York guy, I feel like you should it'd be like if you asked me about Bible.

SPEAKER_07 28:58

Yeah, I was more interested in Zodiac.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Fair enough. But um I like the the doctor's notion that they believe the baby escaped through a skylight and no one questions that's just is taken as a fact that this baby has escaped through the skylight.

SPEAKER_07 29:20

At this point, I would believe it.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

But do you but how do you picture the the escape? Do you think it was a wall crawl? Or do you think it was a really big jump?

SPEAKER_06 29:31

Wall crawl.

SPEAKER_00 29:33

See, I was I was imagining imagine Spider-Man with an umbilical.

SPEAKER_06 29:39

I don't want to.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Why not? Like a bungee cord to just See that's a movie you would have made if he had to Umbilical Spider-Man Umbilical Spider-Man Baby Man.

SPEAKER_07 30:03

Baby man. Baby man has whatever a baby can.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Um but what do you think was do you think there was a cause for this little evil baby? Or do you think it was just pure happenstance for this this poor couple?

SPEAKER_04 30:23

I think it's the Antichrist, because at the end, the very, very end of the movie, one I think the last line of the movie is the cop gets a column and says another one was just born in Chicago, right after they kill the baby. Oh, I think it's just like the Antichrist trying to be born into the world.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

There's no like religious symbolism throughout the movie.

SPEAKER_04 30:50

There's not. I don't think it's I don't think that's the point of the movie. I don't think it really matters that much, but it that makes the most sense to me given that as soon as it got killed, apparently another one was immediately born. Instead of another baby, I think it's the same one, basically. But it it doesn't know that it's the same one because it's just a baby, so it doesn't have that kind of awareness.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

Oh well, if we go off the sequel, isn't we're supposed to be three of them? So do you think maybe the angle just is just multiplying itself to try and we'll see.

SPEAKER_04 31:29

If I if I watch more of these, I'll report back as we talk about the rest of the movies.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

Well, again, I've ordered a trilogy, so there will be a report back. Uh Hell yeah, okay. Um Did you think when you were watching this, this movie's quiet as shit sometimes? Like almost unintelligibly quiet.

SPEAKER_07 31:47

Sometimes, but I also thought it lended itself to the vibe.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

How soon is it?

SPEAKER_04 31:54

It feels Well that that's the sleepy vibe to me, but then also that's part of what I liked about it. It wasn't trying to. It needed to be less quiet to make itself, like you said, more intelligible, but it wasn't trying to make itself louder to fill space, which I like.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

Do you think there was a point to this movie? Because I was watching it and there was a lot like I I understand there's the whole like learning to love your child regardless of you know the circumstances it's born. I get that part. But I feel like there's there's gotta be something like for instance when the baby has escaped through the skylight using its umbil, it's baby man. The doctor asks, Oh, have you been exposed to radiation? And the wife turns to Frank and goes, Oh, are you scared of me? So I was thinking, Oh, it's supposed to be like a a conversational piece about how people sometimes blame the mother in situations where there's like a birth deformity or mental health problems, but then they never come back to that. And then Frank talks to the doctor outside of a room and he says, Whatever it is, you can't classify it as a creature, that's a human doctor, and that disgusts you, doesn't it? So I was like, Oh, it's about the treatment of of um babies being born with again deformities or mental health issues, and again, it doesn't come back to that at any point. But I I kept feeling like there was there was a point somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 33:37

No. I think horror movies like this at this time were less responsible about stuff like that and just weren't as concerned with why things were happening. It's just I want to make a movie about a spooky demon baby. And I'm sure there are thematic reasons why that is scary to the people who decide to make it, but I don't think they were putting as much effort into translating that to screen or really delving into why they find it scary. Or interesting as an idea. In the case of a horror comedy.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

Okay, but with the upcoming movies, two out of four of them, what I haven't seen, I can presume have a meaning behind them, because you have God Told Me To, which I assume is about like religious fanaticism and cult mentality, and then the stuff, which from the little things I've seen, I assume is to do with like um consumerism.

SPEAKER_08 34:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

So surely so he d he does have a point to his movies.

SPEAKER_04 34:52

Yeah, I I don't disagree. I I don't maybe hit there was a point to start with and it got lost, but I don't really feel like there is beyond the only thing I can latch on to is that Um The couple kind of find each other at the end of this again. You know, they don't they don't fight to the degree that they are broken up by this trauma. They both wind up valuing the same things and recognizing why they love each other through this event. You know, the the movie itself being about this couple staying together rather than how everything tears them apart, I guess could be the point.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Yeah, because there's there's there's definitely a fruit of it's almost like like losing a baby at birth, where like the dad becomes distant and the mother's struggling to deal with it, and they have to send her child away to like a family friend because they they can't handle it. And then the father accepting that helps him become closer with his wife and show there's definitely there's a through line of that. But I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 36:12

Yeah, honestly, I see grief as a a relation you can draw.

SPEAKER_00 36:17

But I feel like if you're going to do like a film about like a miscarriage or a baby dies at birth, you wouldn't make him baby that eats.

SPEAKER_07 36:25

No, that's true, but it it just is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

I mean The mind of Larry Cole isn't an ignorant.

SPEAKER_07 36:32

Yeah, it's a miscarriage.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

Um So what do you think of the baby killing Zen?

SPEAKER_04 36:42

It's alright. Isn't it? I I like when he eats the guy's neck. It's all good, but none of it stands out. None of it's memorable. Even though it's all it all serves its purpose very well.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

No, for me it is memorable because you have the little the little stalking POV, that's every cheap 70s horror movie does that. But see when we get the flashes of the little baby hands, it is just like a little gremlin thing. I think it's so unnerving looking. I think it's creepy as fuck. Not many things in horror movies are look at and I will go, that's unsettling to look at, but I don't like this little baby man. I think I don't know if it's because my brain in the clips knows that's definitely not a baby and it's just a little naked man, and him rubbing his hands over the screen is unsettling to me.

SPEAKER_07 37:34

Interesting. I didn't yeah, it didn't get me like that.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

Did you ever see the I Eat Baby's ice cream advert?

SPEAKER_05 37:43

No. What is what?

SPEAKER_00 37:46

It's the it was a promotion for baby's ice cream, but it was a man made of ice cream that's eating his own head.

SPEAKER_04 37:54

Oh, I have seen this. Is he just covered in ice cream?

SPEAKER_00 37:57

Yeah, well, I think he's supposed to be made of ice cream and he's eating the ice cream from his head.

SPEAKER_06 38:02

Yeah, it's terrifying.

SPEAKER_00 38:04

Yeah, it gives me that vibe.

SPEAKER_06 38:07

Huh.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

Like old YouTube video you s you show to someone to freak them out, but there isn't much point of it type okay visuals.

SPEAKER_04 38:20

Interesting. I like that reading, but I don't get that quite as much, but I just think I have grimy New York.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

Well, maybe it's because I'm not from New York. Maybe you're just used to these these little demon babies rocking about Yeah, they're everywhere. But did you not ever have any like old YouTube videos like that that people would show you and it would just like it was just unnerving to look at?

SPEAKER_04 38:48

Yeah, occasionally. I can't think of any off the top of my head. And not just YouTube videos, but just like random stuff on the internet that wasn't wasn't right.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

Like for me, the the main two that come to mind are Obey the Walrus. I don't know if you're familiar with that.

SPEAKER_06 39:05

I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_00 39:07

It was I think they're a they're a uh like performance artist, I think, from Russia, but they have a really bad eating disorder, so they're super thin, and they they dress trans for their show, and there's a clip of them doing a really creepy dance with creepy music put over it, and it's edited weird. Like it's it's designed by the performance artists to be scary, but the way that it's edited is just it like unlocks like a weird primal fear in the brain.

SPEAKER_05 39:42

I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

That's that's an old that's an old classic one, and the I feel fantastic robot were the two that always like even to today, the I feel fantastic robot freaks the fuck out of me.

SPEAKER_05 39:57

I am unfamiliar, but I'll look it up. I'm looking at obey the walrus, and that's certainly something.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Yeah, that's that's people would always put that in old YouTube videos like randomly, just to scare people that were watching it. But you should know that I feel fantastic. It's like the the animatronic robot or sauce in a fucking voice. That's creepy. Yeah. God. That was like the one thing in Undertone they make a reference to it, but they don't call it by name, which I find weird because it's not copyrighted. Just talk about the I feel fantastic robot. That is just there's there's certain things online that freak me out, and that's that's one of the ones that's just that's like my my number one spot.

SPEAKER_04 40:47

Trying to think of I'll have to ruminate on what freaks me out from like internet horror stuff for what has definitely creepy passives in the past. I haven't been reading stories for a while though.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

Well, going back to the movie, did you notice that when the nurse is like she's trying to get like a news story out of the wife to to presumably sell online to people? Why is their entire room Chinese? Like they have a deep red room and Chinese ornaments everywhere.

SPEAKER_06 41:23

I didn't notice that, no.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Just a very strange I don't know, maybe they've just reused this set from a different film where there was a Chinese couple. Because that is that is that should not like the the room does not at all mix with the rest of the house.

SPEAKER_04 41:41

They probably yeah, borrowed the apartment from someone.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

It really makes me wonder how like cheap this film was to make. Because basically everything in it that could be seen as higher budget could also have definitely been done for basically free.

SPEAKER_06 41:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:01

But uh, what about you said you were you were iffy on the baby kills. What about the milkman kill? The milkman kill's pretty fun.

SPEAKER_04 42:09

It's fun. It wasn't like I said, impressive or memorable, but it was fun. They weren't bad. I wasn't annoyed with any of them. But they just they met the level of the movie for me. They didn't exceed or stand out.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

But but he's going for milk? He won he's a baby, he likes milk.

SPEAKER_04 42:30

I love that the milk and the blood mix and make sort of like a strawberry milk looking.

SPEAKER_00 42:36

That's exactly the fact that the baby snuck onto the milk van and waited for him to pop up shows that all young children are born to spawn camp? Like that's just an engraved thing in us.

SPEAKER_04 42:54

No, I think that only those with evil in their hearts are born to spawn camp. I think that's what that shows.

SPEAKER_00 43:00

See, Larry Cohen was thinking ahead of a game. This man was rocking with some pong back in the day and he didn't know what was coming.

SPEAKER_06 43:07

He didn't.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Um So what's what do you what do you get about the big pharma angle constantly hounding Frank to either keep the baby for experiment or to destroy the baby? Because I don't know. There's like four or five government men and businessmen, and I don't get who's on whose side about this baby.

SPEAKER_04 43:30

I don't either. I can't tell if they want to kill it or destroy it or um save it. It seems like killing it is their favorite option, which meant that I didn't quite get the big pharma angle because I felt like they were trying to kill it specifically through most of the movie.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

So But it's like the Big Pharma thing. See, this is where I find the film a little bit questionable because the Big Pharma representative says, Oh, I think it's the the birth control pills would be. Locking. And I'm like, okay, is this movie trying to be anti-birth control to some degree?

SPEAKER_07 44:09

Yeah. I didn't know about that.

SPEAKER_04 44:12

And I was looking at it as like It's just such a weird thing to throw into the script, but I also I don't know, maybe it just wasn't aware of what he was. It's hard to say given how long ago it was, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 44:26

Yeah. Because it's it's 1972, so I was like, okay, even if that was that, maybe there was misinformation about that going on. I try to look up because there's a few lines in the movie where I was like, oh, this is a pro-life movie, I don't want to I don't want to be talking good about it. But it doesn't seem like anyone's really been discussing it online, and I feel like if that was the intent of the film, this would have been brought up more in those sort of circles. Yeah, it just feels like an incidental negative kind of because even in like it is 1972, it's basically the late 60s. Like it's a fucking old ass film.

SPEAKER_08 45:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

I would say it looks pretty good for being as cheap and as old as it is.

SPEAKER_04 45:13

It looks great, yeah. I'll note even I started it on Plex for free, and it looked even better, but the stream kept messing up in the last 10 minutes, so I just switched to YouTube for the very ending.

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Oh Joe, that's funny because see, I've been watching it on for some reason the torrent sites have the see how typically they'll like put the best resolution first and then the best encoding, and then as you go down the list, it'll be worse and worse and worse.

SPEAKER_07 45:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:48

Mine started at 360p, and I was like, oh that's they only have 360p ones, and then I went down and then it started to mix the 720s and the 360s, and then I found one that was like 1137p, and I was like, what the f I take it this is the best I'm getting. And then I watched a YouTube video where someone discussed it using clips, and the clips look infinitely better than what I've been watching.

SPEAKER_04 46:17

Wow. Maybe the the discs you'll get will be like 4k.

SPEAKER_00 46:22

Oh no, they're they're this is uh it's a DVD set. I'm getting 480p. There's never been a Blu-ray release of this film.

SPEAKER_04 46:30

Maybe they'll send you 4Ks instead of the DVDs somehow.

SPEAKER_00 46:34

I don't know. Do you know what's fucked up? Now people are doing that, and sometimes it looks better than some of the shit that you're getting out of some of the Blu-ray companies. Which is kind of fucked up.

SPEAKER_04 46:48

It is kind of nuts. I don't know how to feel about that at all.

SPEAKER_00 46:53

Me either, because there was I think I've I've brought this up with you before. The the Friday the 13th 4Ks don't look too great. And then I saw a clip of someone's homemade AI one and it looked spectacular.

SPEAKER_08 47:07

You did mention this, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:09

Yeah. But that's fucked up because I wouldn't want to give this random cunt on the internet money for using an AI on a film. But at the same time But if I want to watch it in a better quality, it's like at what point are we gonna get boutique Blu-ray companies just going, fuck it, we don't need to rescan the actual film? Because then you're on a slippery slope. Because what if AI does decide to change some things, are companies even gonna bother to fix that?

SPEAKER_04 47:41

No, they probably won't even notice.

SPEAKER_00 47:44

We've seen with the the Doctor Who Blu-rays, fucking expensive Blu-rays with classic Who, and we use AI for it, and half of them are fucked.

SPEAKER_04 47:53

Do they really?

SPEAKER_00 47:54

Oh my god, yeah, sometimes, especially in like I think it's the Tom Baker ones, the TARDIS will just have gibberish on the back, or they always fix Tom Baker's teeth to give them Hollywood style teeth, and it just looks wrong.

SPEAKER_07 48:08

That's so stupid.

SPEAKER_00 48:12

You've seen the prices of those fucking box sets, haven't you?

SPEAKER_04 48:16

No, how much are they going for?

SPEAKER_00 48:22

That's nuts.

SPEAKER_04 48:24

A season, too. There's so much Doctor Who.

SPEAKER_00 48:28

I know and they fucking because half of them are missing, you're not even getting full seasons. And then like we'll release limited edition versions that go for like two, three hundred pounds afterwards.

SPEAKER_07 48:39

That's so grim. That's criminal. They shouldn't be allowed to do that.

SPEAKER_00 48:45

And kind of wonder why we pirate things.

SPEAKER_07 48:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:49

Um we've completely where whereabouts were we in the movie? We talked about the Weltmand didn't know.

SPEAKER_04 48:55

I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of confronting Lenore about the baby, and like she's kind of going crazy, and Frank's working with the cops, and then How does he is he in police custody at some point, or they're just marching him around? They go to um they go to a preschool, which gives me sort of Resident Evil 9.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

Yeah, the the way he joins them is the I don't know how Frank accidentally gets the phone call from the police to say that they found the baby in the school and they're cornering him. I think it's the government people that were like, can we kill your baby? Please sign this little letter. I think they were phoning to try and get him, and Frank took the phone call. But yeah, I think I do think that again, early 70s, late 60s, it probably isn't too strange for this middle-aged man just to be kicking about with the police if they say okay. But it is still very strange what we keep this man with him when they're unsure if he actually wants to kill this baby or not.

SPEAKER_04 50:03

It's just weird that they would keep him with them anyway. They're just keeping him with them because he wants to be the one to kill the baby. He wants to put a bullet through his own son's head.

SPEAKER_00 50:15

But he doesn't, though, that's the thing. He's just there. He's just a good liar, it seems.

SPEAKER_04 50:23

Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's exactly what it is. But that's that's why they're keeping him there, is because they think that he's I guess they think that he has a right to it.

SPEAKER_00 50:35

Do you think there's supposed to be like a like an underlying commentary on how shit the police are? The fact that it seems this entire police force has cornered a baby in the building and he somehow takes out two police officers.

SPEAKER_04 50:51

Yeah, I mean, I don't think they're being presented as any sort of capable. I don't know if there's a point being made about it, but they're certainly not uh you know, a beacon of hope.

SPEAKER_00 51:07

But again, a baby kills two police officers and they're loaded with shotguns.

SPEAKER_04 51:15

Well, it's also just a horror movie. I mean, it's hard to These are the goons in this movie, you know, these are sort of the cannon fodder. They are presented as idiots in some cases. There's one scene where uh a cop, it's it feels almost super troopers. He leans over to use the kid's water fountain and his hat almost falls off.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

Or the scene where we hear a baby's attack someone, and then the six officers run into a random garden and aim over pistols at a random baby we find.

SPEAKER_04 51:48

Very funny. Yes, yeah, oh yeah, great point. Yeah, no, they're being presented as idiots, you're right. It's like even with babies. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 51:59

And we find the random baby, and they're like, it was him, he's done it.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

I really thought they were gonna shoot the baby, too.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

I thought for sure we were gonna blast that baby shan. Even though I'd seen it before on the rewatch, I was like, oh no, we're gonna kill this fucking cat.

SPEAKER_04 52:17

We don't know that they didn't, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 52:20

You're so right, it cuts me. Maybe they did.

SPEAKER_04 52:23

Yeah. Um it's kind of just them talking to Frank after that, right? And saying, like, you gotta do this thing.

SPEAKER_00 52:34

No, first they try and send him home, because remember, he goes outside and he's talking to that police officer, and he's like, I just I don't want you to think I'm crazy. I'm just trying to help. I don't want to look like I'm and that's what I mean by like he's he's such is such a good performance by him, because he seems like a guy who's genuinely losing his shit and doesn't want people to think he's losing his shit.

SPEAKER_04 52:56

Yeah, he's just really trying to keep it together.

SPEAKER_00 53:00

Honestly, Joe's fucked up. I think he could play a good Jack Torrance.

SPEAKER_07 53:04

I could see that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

What do you think of his drip throughout the film? We haven't mentioned his drip.

SPEAKER_04 53:10

It's it's good. He he's given a carl car salesman cheek.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

It's a little bit of that, but there's also one scene where the big pharma guys come to meet him, and he's got like this tucked-in brown work shirt and some golden aviators, and good god. I've never seen a man so flashy and suck like so bad of a crisis.

SPEAKER_05 53:34

I remember that.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

Even has a little flag in his mouth the entire time just for like that aried down to his coolness.

SPEAKER_07 53:41

Perfect, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:44

Oh, we completely skimmed past. Isn't it fucked up seeing just people smoke in a hospital? Like in in the maternity ward at that.

SPEAKER_07 53:53

Yeah, it's fucked up, but I'm not surprised. But like, you just used to smoke everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 53:59

I get that, but in the maternity ward.

SPEAKER_07 54:02

Everywhere. On airplanes, man.

SPEAKER_00 54:07

Oh, I would love see, I get when people don't smoke, how annoying that would be. But see, for someone like me who loves who loves a cigarette, oh my god, see, being on like a six-hour flight and having the person next to you smoke, it would be a godsend. Open the door.

SPEAKER_04 54:27

I'm not commenting on that at all. It's just that an airplane can have kids on it, so it's not even that much different to the maternity.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

Honestly, do you think you should do with airplanes? They should have like two suits in the back that you strap yourself into and they let you fly mid-air. So you can you can have a little smoke, and then we move you back on.

SPEAKER_04 54:50

Attached like a like you're an astronaut doing a spacewalk outside of the plane.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Exactly, just like a big pond and like a paraglider on your back to keep you level. Great. It would be the most accelerating cigarette. I don't know if you could you probably couldn't breathe at that height.

SPEAKER_04 55:12

No, not very well, at least.

SPEAKER_00 55:14

I don't I highly doubt the flame of your cigarette would stay either that, or like the oxygen hitting you at such speeds would just burn it to a crisp.

SPEAKER_04 55:23

You know what? I'm looking at their fridge on this rewatch. They have this awesome thing in their door of their fridge that just has it egg holders.

SPEAKER_07 55:35

It just holds eggs.

SPEAKER_00 55:37

You don't you've never had just a thing that holds eggs?

SPEAKER_07 55:41

Not built into the fridge.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

Well, you don't you don't need to get one that's built into the fridge, you can just have an egg holder in your fridge.

SPEAKER_04 55:49

Oh yeah. And I have done that, but I'm just saying, that's cool. I've never seen that. I don't even think I'd necessarily want that. I feel like it's a little bit precarious because you're swinging it about, you know, the eggs can fly out, but it's cool.

SPEAKER_00 56:03

Yeah, and you can only use like six eggs at a time, and so if you're into your bacon, you're you're gonna use those six eggs really quick.

SPEAKER_04 56:10

Oh yeah, no, no, I need like 24 eggs. Six eggs minimum in the fridge at any given time.

SPEAKER_00 56:20

So I what you could do is if you got one, those could be your spare eggs. Or if you just don't have enough eggs in your egg section.

SPEAKER_04 56:30

I've been experimenting with that. I do have a spare egg section now.

SPEAKER_00 56:35

You've been experimenting with your eggs?

SPEAKER_04 56:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:40

And what's was what's your hypothesis?

SPEAKER_04 56:43

Well, having a spare egg section is good, because if you forget to restock on eggs, then you can still make and bake. So make some eggs in the morning, still bake some cookies at night, do whatever you need to do.

SPEAKER_00 56:57

Have you ever tried experimenting with a type of eggs in your bacon? Have you ever gone I'm gonna try this with some duck eggs?

SPEAKER_04 57:05

No, but I've thought about it. I know duck eggs are denser, so I probably would use. Well, my my chocolate chip cookie recipe just has one egg. Uh I probably would use less of the yolk in the duck egg. So I would cut down on the fat a little bit, and then since sometimes I'll throw an extra egg into these cookies, I feel like whisking in the egg whites on that would be good for structure, and they would be a little fluffier.

SPEAKER_00 57:37

Okay, but hear me out. Big batch.

SPEAKER_04 57:40

It would be really good for pound cake. Duck eggs would be great for pound cake because they're so dense.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

Okay, but hear me out, hear me out on this. You do a big batch of cookies and one ostrich egg. Huh?

SPEAKER_04 57:53

A big batch of cookies and one ostrich egg. What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_00 58:00

Because ostrich eggs are big, aren't they?

SPEAKER_04 58:03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 58:10

That's what I was getting from you.

SPEAKER_00 58:12

What benefit would you gain from this?

SPEAKER_03 58:14

That's what I was asking.

SPEAKER_00 58:19

It's part of the recipe, Chris. How did you not piece those two together?

SPEAKER_04 58:24

The phrasing is what confused me.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

I'm terrific. Is there any other eggs that are currently available? Quail eggs?

SPEAKER_04 58:33

Like, use 30 quail eggs for one batch of brownies.

SPEAKER_00 58:39

I feel like that wouldn't that wouldn't be too different from the from the duck eggs, though. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_04 58:44

Aren't quail eggs the really tiny ones?

SPEAKER_00 58:48

Yeah. Do you what? We would be fucking awesome as hard-boiled eggs. See lots of little tiny baby hard-boiled eggs.

SPEAKER_04 58:56

Oh, imagine rolling those around in like a mixture of like pepper and salt and something else.

SPEAKER_00 59:05

Do you think you can cook a pigeon egg? Not a pigeon, a penguin egg.

SPEAKER_04 59:08

I don't want to eat a pigeon egg. That sounds disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 59:11

No, but think about a penguin egg. Do you think there's any point in time where you can cook a penguin egg that you're not just gonna get a penguin fetus?

SPEAKER_07 59:19

No.

SPEAKER_06 59:20

I don't think they were bred for that.

SPEAKER_00 59:24

Nah. You ever you ever cracked an egg and got a fetus in it?

SPEAKER_06 59:29

No, thank god. I would freak out.

SPEAKER_00 59:33

You can cook 'em. You can eat them. I wouldn't I think you can eat them raw, I'm sure. I'm sure there's places in Asia where eat them.

SPEAKER_07 59:42

You can eat a lot of stuff raw.

SPEAKER_00 59:44

I don't but I think it's is it not supposed to be really good for protein because the b like the bones haven't formed properly yet? So you can chew through them easy and it's really good for your protein.

SPEAKER_04 59:56

I'm not that desperate for protein that I'm eating fetuses. Fetai.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:01

Okay, but hypothetically, you crack an egg and there's a fetus in it. What are you doing with it?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:06

Throwing it out.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:08

You're not testing it in the cookies? What happened to the cookie experiment? This is a new variable.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:12

I'm not making fetus cookies.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:15

Why not?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:16

I'm not making fetus cookies. End of discussion.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:19

When you cook when you crack that egg and there's a fetus in it, that is your one opportunity to ever make fetus cookies.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

It's my one opportunity to ever make fetus cookies. You can make fetus cookies. If you really want to make fetus cookies.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:37

See, if you presented me with that option, you're like you're supposed to see the one time that you'll ever be able to make a meat cookie because of how squidgy that fetus is. It might be time to go for it.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:50

No, it's just too gross to me. I can't do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:54

So but you'll eat a chicken, won't you?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:58

But that's just a big fetus.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:00

No. It's a developed fetus. There's a difference.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:05

Yeah, so it's it's a bit crunchier.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:09

Among other things.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:11

I don't understand your hang up between the chicken fetus and eating a chicken.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:15

One's a fetus and one's a chicken.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:18

They're both they're both a chicken.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:21

They both come from the different ways.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

One's just being a bit more processed.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:26

A square is a rectangle, but rectangles aren't all squares.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:31

I don't get this. I don't understand it. You last time you were like, oh put me in a logical This is a logical fallacy. You eat the egg, you'll eat the chicken, but you won't eat the in-between.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:41

Some things aren't for you to understand, they're just for you to accept.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:45

I don't, I don't accept it. See, see that every work we're finding one of those Asian places that do the feet. What do you mean? Why? Why is this the what's so important to you? It's a culinary experience, Chris.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:02

Why isn't this the culinary experience that you need to fixate on?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:07

I'm not, but I'm just saying it's one that you're you're closed-minded to.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:12

I am.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:14

But that's that's that's a bad way to live your life.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:17

I think I'll be okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:19

Okay, well we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:23

I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:25

But speaking of eggs in your fridge, Chris, Frank is home and someone has drank his milk and scrammed his fridge.

unknown 1:02:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:34

I like it the fucking time he didn't he didn't just go, the baby is in this house at the time to get the gun. He was like, oh mysteriously someone has drank all of the and ate my entire fridge.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:46

Yeah, he goes, I'm gonna keep that in my back pocket.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:50

It's like he only for some reason the understanding only hits him when he goes into his child Chris's room and finds there's some bite marks in his teddy bear.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:01

Yeah, that's that is interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:05

You know what's interesting that we just skimmed past? The fact that our son Chris goes to live with our uncle Charlie for a bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:12

That's very funny. I didn't clock that specifically.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:17

Yeah, that's good. Who survives? Which one of them survives the movie?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:22

Chris survives, I get scrammed.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:26

We also skim past okay, so so Charlie says, I'm going to take Chris fishing, okay? And then as they're getting into the car, Chris slaps Charlie in the ass. I feel like that is not an acceptable level of physical contact between an uncle and a nephew.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:45

No, it's not. Charlie is does slap Chris in the ass. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:50

Just just I thought just thought I would throw that out. That's just a weird, weird moment. It's a little weird. I think nothing else, nothing else that Charlie does is that weird, aside from that one moment where he slaps him in the ass and the scene sits on.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:03

And it's like well meaning enough, it's just sort of like, ah, get over there, you scamp. But it's just not it's doesn't, it's not good. But it's like a coach, I guess, and energy.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:16

I've never had a coach slap my ass, Chris. I don't know where you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:20

No, me neither. I'm trying to I'll stop trying to justify things that don't need to be justified.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:25

So you're bringing back memories from when you were a high school coach? No, it's not something that was used to this podcast. Oh you were an elephant.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:38

That's the other podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:42

Uh oh, I can't even make a good pun with that. We've chose too hard of a name to make good puns with.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:48

W what? Uh Uncanny Valley?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:51

Yeah, it doesn't rhyme with fuck off.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:55

Maybe Canary for Puncanny Valley.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:00

You could do the pun, but like where are you ever gonna use that text?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:04

Never.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:06

We never thought about pun potential.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:09

No. We'll have to think about for the that for the rebrand in three years.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:14

Well yeah, when we switch to uh romantic comedies.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:19

Yeah, yeah, exactly. When we when we watch all the horror movies and we have no more to watch.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:27

Honestly, Joe, I think at some point in my life, see before I'm like dementia ridding and dying in a house. I hope to have seen basically every horror movie that has any form of relevance.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:41

That's cool. That's a good call.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:43

I don't think that's unreasonable.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:47

I don't think it is either, because I mean how many how many horror movies come out a year that are actually of any form of relevance ten years down the line?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:55

Like three to five on a good year, really.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:58

And then you'll get leave a small. ones like this is an indie horror director that did good for a few years and then you could count them. But it's like how how many like Chinese horror movies come out a year it's just about here's some teenagers and there's a spooky and it's got like two logs on letterbox yeah how many any kind of horror movie comes out that has that kind of plot so many do you ever watch you ever watch any youtubers that do like the this month movies are coming out no guys fucked up spooky astronauts she's she does good like oh this is what's coming out this month for every month and every single film on that list is like here's the big one you know here's a big one you know here's an indie film that seems interesting and here's 15 indie films that have a two out of five on letterboxed and it's like oh that's dire. Like horror's not that hard of a genre to make comparatively I don't know how we get so much bad horror.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:04

I think because it's easy to make on a level and it's easy to make in a way that people don't question the things that are wrong with it. Yeah but I feel like if you're gonna go for that sort of market you'd be easy to uh uh not whole market a whole market um romance movie wait till Christmas and pump out a bunch of doors I think that's the other version I think it's horror movies and romance Netflix kind of stuff I don't want to get lumped in my doors come on grass well specifically the bad stuff you're talking about like wishupon where's wishupon it's a horror movie about a little box that you wit make wishes and the wishes go wrong it's a monkey paw movie yeah but see that's that's fun though that's that's more interesting than it is fun I think that's a fun one but that it that is also very indicative of the Blumhouse the bad version of the Blumhouse type movies like Truth or Dare. Maybe that's a better example of just like this type of movie that they are only making because it doesn't cost a lot to make and they know a certain demographic will come out to see it. And I guess that's different now. I guess you know theater demographics aren't really what they used to be but the point of movies is just sequels and requels and remakes but the thing is people complain about that but I I feel like I don't mind the being mostly that because you still get like all the original movies in the indie scene. I feel like we still get a lot of good original stuff and I I'd rather have anything than nothing.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:57

Yeah but the people people will complain over too many sequels out. But what are you more willing to risk your time on a sequel to a franchise that you know you like and will at least be elements that you know you will like in the sequel as an event film or this original movie but you have no idea of Yeah would draw for the original movie. It's like people always make it out like modern audiences are so stupid if you can point and oh I know that thing. I know that thing that's fair. But I think it's more just it if if you're risk assessing what you're going to spend like four or five hours going out to the cinema watching a movie and then making your way home at least say if it's like fucking Halloween five or whatever if you've seen the first four you at least know okay I'm going to have to watch five at some so I may as well watch it here.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:00

I don't know I think beyond even you having intent on seeing the other movies knowing that it's a popular enough franchise to warrant still existing kind of gives it more faith especially now that movies are more expensive people aren't going to trust some random movie they're gonna trust you know if they want to see an action movie they'd rather see Fast and the Furious than the Furies Yeah but even with something like that it's like you know you have previous knowledge from the rest of the franchise that okay it's gonna be this level of tense it's gonna be roughly this quality and it's gonna have a good budget. So immediately you at least know what you're spending your money on.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:51

Yeah I I think there's that and that's why we're in the situation we're in but then it also you know it's gonna perpetuate we're just in a situation where it's gonna be hard for original movies to really get their recognition. Like maybe it's the Furious not the furies there's a movie coming out there's an action movie that I'm excited for with Joe Taslin.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:15

I thought you were gonna add more to that but okay uh there's more information but I don't trust it off the top of my head it's directed by uh Timo Temo what's his face I think he directed Headshot see I'm I have such a blank when it comes to action movies too unless it's big ones just Oh no this one's directed by Kenji Tanigaki let's see I do not know that's it like it was a big announcement I was like oh shit no just wanted to give him his credit cuz I because I miss misidentified who directed it uh enter the fat dragon is something he's directed I assume that's got like a good a good 4.3 on letterbox he's directed action for opening movies in several dynasty warrior games and he's been stunt director at a lot of movies very interesting honestly if he's been a stunt director on some good action movies that's probably indicative of a good action director yeah it's uh I'm hopeful for it to at least be interesting I don't think it'll be uh you know the next John Wick but it'll be very fun we should probably get back to Little Baby he's attacking yeah little baby time so are we at the sort of the end chase no we're uh Lil Baby's in the house yeah from because he's like I I wanna go staying with you you seem nicer than my actual family um see the thing I said to you when I was like oh I will be ready now and I was like wait five minutes I had to check some that's a really dead cat isn't it that's not really that looks too good that's I can't find anything about last time I watched a movie and I saw a dead animal and went no I think that's too real to be to be fake was Brotherhood of and I was correct.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:26

I feel like there's gotta be a real dead cat.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:30

Just thought I'd put that out yeah that's creepy I wanna like think about that I wonder if next uh I wonder if next week's gonna break our uh or dead animal streak. I hope so I feel like if if the movie's called God Told Me To, there's gotta be something death yeah something fucked up's gonna happen in that movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:54

But yeah this is when our fuck it hitman Frank here he he blasts the fuck out of his son with a a revolver in the dark moving at speed doesn't stop shit Charlie still gets eaten yeah it skitters away and he tries to yell at Charlie to stop I like when Frank looks at Charlie's body he kinda holds his neck in sympathy.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:20

Yeah it's funny how fast these people die to the baby very fast this thing is intensely strong but I don't know if he just breaks their neck the second he jumps on them. I don't know they don't really know like 10 seconds of carnage Yeah but presumably okay so we were like well the baby would need to have like milk in that to survive in the beginning. So presumably the baby must be drinking their blood when he bites for neck.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:51

So do you think it's just like you have a sucker carton really quick and it just goes Yes yeah I love that yeah draining these people Do you know what's fucked up you never see that in like a vampire hall just into like a little grape that's wild a little grape a little raisin a little day I think you're they kind of do that in the strain I think they like quickly drain people at least the big one does the big one well yeah in in the strain the Gamel TV show and book series there's a like a big main demon vampire so is he is he like muscular is he like a big I'm just imagining like Nosferatu but buff kind of he's kind of like a buff nosferatu but he also he's sort of buggy and like the the core of the vampires in the strain is that they are all like a worm that's actually infecting the body so it's he has like a worm in his throat that will spout out it's very weird very village.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:23

Very Resident Evil honestly interesting it's one of the shows I feel like I'm gonna that's far too too we could try it for the for the podcast sometime.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:36

I've read two out of the three books oh okay you almost have here shut up they get weird the third book gets very religious and I want to finish it but I'm also I don't know I feel like Guilmell Del Toro helped with a lot of the ideas and the other guy took the story where he wanted it to go which I feel like happens the same with it seems like the direction the story goes is very different in the TV show because it's totally different creative heads besides I think Del Toro directed the first episode of the TV show.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:13

But do you prefer your vampires as like religious allegories or do you prefer them as like beast monsters I think it just depends on the story.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:23

Honestly I think I consider them two separate things.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:27

There's vampires in the style of zombies and then there's vampires as more of a character of literature see I always feel like I feel like Midnight Mass is probably like my favorite sort of vampires there's religious elements but they are still like a big fucking bite Yeah Midnight Mass really rules I can't think of Fright Knight. Honestly they're the remake of Frightnight when they're just monsters is my other favorite.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:01

See that's a blind spot for both I fuck really heavy with have you seen either Frightnight I haven't seen either oh oh those are good ones to do here at some point yeah I don't do you know who's in the Fright Knight remake?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:17

I don't I remember someone like weird to have in that film.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:22

Alright cop this I'm gonna give you the top four we have Anton Yelkin and Imogenpoots as the leads there's Colin Farrell as the main vampire and then you have David Tennant as well Colin Colin Forth is an incredible choice for a vampire Farrell Colin Farrell is really really good in it. He's my favorite part of the movie I really like and then David Tennant plays like a hacky magician you know like purported vampire hunter he's very very good in it too have you seen 30 days of night yes I really love that one I'm a big net fan.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:09

Have you seen that see I think the movie itself is quite bad but I think the vampires in it the vampires are really good.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:18

Do you remember the sequence in the movie when the town is getting overrun there's a shot in it where there's an overhead camera shot that's really really good. You're tracking two main characters but it's like a hundred feet in the air so as you're watching the main characters like run, dodge shoot a shotgun you're watching like 50 other people in the town get eaten and try to escape. I remember loving it 50 is an overreaction but it's it's capturing a lot it's very very cool. I don't think there's 30 people in that town yeah exactly I was thinking about that but you're watching the whole town unfold into chaos in a whole single take it's very well done see I like Fair Days and Night but I feel like the first half is really good and then it starts to like it becomes like a kind of 2000 festival that's correct because they just sort of sit in rooms and talk for a lot of the movie later on because the vampires are too formidable. They can't really be fighting them except for when the story permits it but I don't feel like the directing he does a great job it's uh David Slade directed he does a great job with the build up and making it feel menacing but once they're trapped in the situation he doesn't uh let you feel the gravity while also letting you feel like you're living in the situation. Like it just sort of stalls out a lot yeah I would I would agree on that.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:04

But anyway like how we've we've spent like a good 10 minutes on Vampire share we're at the end of the song we'll definitely have to do a vampire month at some point okay so baby's been shot baby makes a getaway the police they can crack the blood and we find it's been living in the sewer which is comical but we It's wild the cops driving their cars through the sewer yeah it's fun as fuck but he get Frank joins him and he he he scuttles away he fucks off he's no longer part of this moment where he finds his son bleeding in the corner crying and he starts being nice to him is so this is really well acted it's so well acted and it's so sad it makes you feel so sad for him. Yeah like not too many movies get me abortion I was getting more I was like what the fuck's going on the the quality of the movie flies like you can see why when this came out people like this is a bag yeah and I think it might have bumped up my score by either definitely half a star by a full star because this scene just a lot is even just the the prosthetics on the the little baby man in the corner is so fucking good looking it's really great and then it's also remarkable that they keep it emotional even though it's just this actor running with a bunch of towels in his arms for the next five minutes. But I think I think it's I think it's kinda cheap but also good the way we do it because you stop getting the like I'm pretty sure at first when baby hunting people we use cat noises for it like um on the attack but then you actually get just baby cries when it's in pain and upset. I think it's it's just like a a cheap way to trick the brain to be like oh no way I feel bad now yeah now I can see this as actually a human. Well I don't want to say it's just a baby because it's it's also just not a baby is it's a ball just flying through the skyline ate a cat. It's more like a wolf than a baby but yeah but even the scene where he's running from the police car and he's like splashing through the it all so good. Great I don't know if he was maybe he just had like this scene in mind when he was writing it and he was like I need the plot to get me to this scene because this scene and then he emerges from the sewer holding this baby um this I feel like the Yeah I feel like the 30 police officers with crap is a bit overkill. It's the way do you want to talk about how this resolves first the the detective that has been telling him to kill it the entire time he knows he's fucked so he launches his demon baby at its face his face.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:20

It doesn't like it's not solving the situation because the baby gets blocked fucking bats yeah the detective keeps yelling to the cops like you're gonna have to shoot it you're gonna have to shoot it and they get to a boiling point and he says shoot it now kill it kill it and then Frank just throws it at the detective and all the cops open fire like kill the baby and the detective immediately turn them into mashed potatoes it's now Frank for killing this man with his demon baby it's so funny it's I did not expect that whatsoever the wife she seems she seems up in arms she's she's quite chuffed about this um she's I mean she's absolutely distraught and he's it seems like come to terms with it immediately give a little smile on her face when when she seems that he's I don't want to say protected it maybe he used it as a weapon but yeah he's cooperating with his son they're working together Bonnie and Clyde um and then as they're being put in the back of a police car a detective says to them that another one was born in Chicago I think is I again I don't know what that means you presume it's like just another evil one has it's like a a second cover.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:56

Yeah I assume it's like the same spirit trying to emerge but maybe if there was a point to the movie that just isn't articulated well enough maybe that's supposed to be saying something like you can't get rid of whatever this baby is yeah like you you can't keep denying it.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:15

I don't know I I am curious about how it evolves what they decide is going on with this baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:22

Because there's definitely elements of the second that he accepted that that was his child instead of being caring to it it stopped being violent so maybe this is like an eraserhead situation where like he didn't want the child and because of that the child was evil but now that he accepts the child it's not evil I don't know maybe about something to do with the fear of being a father but the guy's already a dad I don't know it doesn't there's no clear message to it really as far as I can discern there's never been a good um like box set with special features and that to check Larry Cohen's passed away so like we'll get a like an updated commentary on it. That's unfortunate Yeah I think it was twenty nineteen so still fairly recently yeah right before COVID Yeah Frank's actor passed away quite recently both from cancer I'm sure oh that sucks yeah smoking stop smoking in the hospitals smoking the airplanes with your paragliders like the bowling alleys is what I remember when I was a kid I would say how do we rank this out of the Larry Cohn movies but we've only watched this so well this is going under the stuff for me.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:54

I can under the stuff yeah the stuff is definitely better than this

SPEAKER_04 1:28:00

But it's again, watching this was more interesting on an analytical level than it was entertaining because I I I was almost frustrated in some small ways seeing how much good stuff there was going on and also seeing how he wasn't quite doing what he could with it. And not when I say frustrated, not really. It's fascinating to see where he came from and that he had all of these. There is just an energy to the movie. There's something interesting going on in the movie that not everyone has when they make a movie. You know, he even though it feels to me a little janky in this first one, there's still something interesting in the movie that makes you want to keep watching.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:54

But again, it's like it is like his first big film. Like someone in say 50 years is doing like a retrospective of Zack Kregger's films. If you get to Barbary and they're gonna be like, yeah, I can see where he started with this, but there's a lot of issues.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:10

And then when you move over to weapons, he'll be like, oh, he's fixed his issues.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:16

Yeah, pretty much. So I'm I'm excited to watch more and honestly probably interested to revisit this at some point with more managed expectations.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:27

See, the thing is with this upcoming, every single film that he's made at one point has been my oh, that's the one I'm excited to watch. That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:37

That's the only two I didn't know about until you started reading about it, and I'm super curious.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:47

So Letterbox disagrees. Is it like a f maybe? We'll see. We'll see. Yeah. I feel like it's definitely it's a high concept horror movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:59

Yeah, it seems I mean it's sounds like um Fallen a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:08

You've seen every movie on planet Earth.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:10

I have not Fallen is a really good movie with Denzo Washington and John Goodman about uh there's a serial killer, they catch and they give the electric chair, and then after he is sentenced to death and ke executed, then his murders are happening again.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:32

Is that not the plot of Exorcist 3 to some extent?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:37

Maybe, I don't know. Is that the that's the one with Sam Neil, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:30:41

No, you're thinking the Omen Free, where Sam Neal is scarily active president Yeah. Oh, and you you get that really famous jump scare where it's the the nun with the scissors.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:02

Oh, I'm not familiar.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:04

Oh. I've never seen Exorcist 2, and I definitely prefer Exorcist 3 over Exorcist.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:12

I like the first one a lot. You're not a fan, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:31:15

You don't love it? Fuck it, I cannot say the Exorcist. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:20

Motherfuckers would I think that's a good one. No, but fuck it, I will not sit through a stupid boring film.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:27

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:29

You don't want to ever talk about the Exorcist 2?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:32

Oh but then we'd have to talk about the Exorcist 1, that's my issue.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:36

That's what I'm saying, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:38

But the thing is like every anytime I c I make any form of criticism to the Exorcist, or it's because it's an old movie, you can't handle old movies. It's like I've got six Japanese black and white movies on my letter good reviews.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:52

It's not because we'll we'll get through a conversation. You won't I'm not gonna give you the same shit other people give you. I like it a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:01

Maybe maybe we'll maybe we'll do like what are like the classic comments? You've got the Exorcist, Poltergeist, the Omen.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:10

I haven't seen Poltergeist.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:12

What what fits with that that trio? What makes a fourth? Omen, poltergeist, exorcists?

SPEAKER_06 1:32:19

Possessions?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:21

No, possessions.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:23

Oh wait, what's um hold on, what's What's the the computer ghost movie?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:31

That's like every 90s to 2000s Japanese horror movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:36

No, no, no, it's American.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:38

Uh do you think Hausu fits in that list?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:43

It kinda, yeah. That's a bit of a wild card. Altered states. I've not seen altered states. I've seen classes looks fucking sick. That's that I feel like fits into that. Well, maybe we just do a classics at some point.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:02

Yeah. I'd be down. I really want to watch Altered States. I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:06

Uh hell yeah. I've not seen the Polterguest for a while. Pretty sure I'll give Polterguest a five star. That's the one that's like maybe Steven Spielberg made it, maybe Toby Hooper made it, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:19

Oh, I I wasn't aware that there was uh contention about that. That's cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:23

Yeah, I'm sure Steven Spielberg says he was the producer, but he didn't want a proper horror movie in his filmography.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:32

Interesting. That's lame. He needs to chill a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:37

Yeah, I know. Why why why would you want a horror movie who can do something interesting like the government is lying about aliens? I've never seen that before.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:47

Yeah, no one's done that before.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:49

Where the government was lying about aliens. Or that other movie he did where the government was lying about aliens.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:55

Or the other one where the government was lying by aliens.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:59

He has a niche. But the other one where the government was surprised by aliens. They were covering up the aliens. They lied about aliens. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:14

Wait, I still fucking still have to be. Oh wait, I'm not editing. I'm free. Wait, hold on. There's a day. There's a day gap. It's the best news of my life. Considering I'm I'm up for work in four hours.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:28

Oh yeah. Yeah, thank god. This will be really nice to get ahead a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:34

It lives.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:34

So are we recording God Told Me To tomorrow then if we can?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:39

If you want to.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:41

Yeah, I'll see if I can bust that out and not doing anything else.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:45

And you know the fucked up thing is I could just edit them the next day and then it's just that's like a last week where I don't have to do anything. Yeah, that's nice. Just schedule that shit. Oh yeah. But yeah, I take it. I like when we were just talking about behind the scenes, but it's not even there's not even being an ending.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:03

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:03

Yeah. Uh you know. Same thing as well as uh every time.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:10

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