I Didn’t Know About All This Crab Business

On this very overdue episode, we have Queen and David Bowie’s “Under Pressure” vs. Aerosmith’s “Livin’ On The Edge” in our fourteenth matchup of the Jacktical Magic tournament.

Let Amelia and Cooper regale you with tales of some really awful people, Weird Al’s teenage successor, a child actor’s on-set injuries, and Steven Tyler’s favorite hidey-holes. 

Which song will be declared the winner and move one step closer to the title of having the most Jack FM energy?

Your vote decides.

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Theme Song: ‘Heavenly Pop Hit’ by The Chills. Used with permission.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:13

Examination radio station Jack FM. I'm Cooper Willis, and I'm joined, as always, by Amelia Skinel. Hey bud. How are you? I'm okay.

SPEAKER_03 0:27

You're really making a meal out of that intro.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

Yeah. Well, speaking of meal, I I'm currently fasting, so uh I haven't had a meal all day.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Don't say the word meal.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

You're making me hungry with this. You're making me starving. Yeah, we actually shared my last meal. You shared my last meal with me last night.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

Yeah, but over two time zones.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:51

Yeah. We we both had Taco Bell. It was fantastic. Oh. You gave me shit for having a mild sauce and a hot sauce.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

I'm glad you brought that up because I I was gonna let it go, but I really would like to address that. You know, I just always I always took you for a fire gal. I thought you I thought you were team fire all the way. Um I don't like that about you. I guess I will try my best to just accept you for who you are. I think that any hot sauce that's not fire or Diablo is just why even bother.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

Oh, there's that's right. There's like a black baggy or black packet. Uh and yes, you were the most supportive person when I came out as trans, but you will not tolerate my uh my hot sauces. You're intolerant.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

Oh yeah, like I will make it public display uh of inaffection.

SPEAKER_03 1:54

But here's okay, so I have a little problem with you.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

Please.

SPEAKER_03 1:58

Your default is hot, which prevents you from enjoying things.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

You across the board.

SPEAKER_03 2:07

I think the fact that you seek out the hot version is wrong. You should be okay with the mild version and then up it with spice. You sure or sometimes it's better without any spice. You kept giving the uh Popeye's chicken sandwich a try, and you're like, I just don't I don't think it's very good. It's it's no good. And I was like, that's because you get the hot version, which isn't like the hot Popeyes chicken, it's right, it's just a hot mayo. And I and I've told you several times, get the normal one, and it's so great.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

And I will admit you you're absolutely right. I went back, I got the mild, it was much better. I think this is not a me problem. I think this is a Popeyes problem because why are you calling it spicy if it's just going to be the spicy mayonnaise? You have the spicy tenders already, like just put them on a sandwich. I don't get what the what the problem is here. But uh, in terms of that sandwich, you are absolutely correct. Now, when it comes to Taco Bell, you know, there is no spice on the tacos already. So I have had them mild. I've worked my way all the way up to the fire sauce, and I just don't see a reason to go back down.

SPEAKER_03 3:29

Okay, okay. Yes, but uh this sounds so pretentious. But Mexican food's not hot by traditional dishes.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

That's true, especially compared to like Thai food.

SPEAKER_03 3:43

Right.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

There's a different thing I know you're definitely well versed in. Hold on.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

Definitely have never what no, I have had jitlata since, and it's it's okay. It is hot. Fucking hot. Okay, do you think a Cheeto is better flaming hot? Yes or no?

SPEAKER_02 4:01

Yeah, give me give me that Fuego. Give me that Fuego Cheeto. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:06

So yeah, if it were you, you would put hot sauce on your cereal and on your Captain Crunch Phew.

SPEAKER_02 4:15

Give me give me a flamin' hot crunch, oops all berries.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

Oops all spicy.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Oops, oops, spicy berries.

SPEAKER_03 4:22

Oops, all spicy, damn it. Shit. Uh, we both got there. Oops all spicy.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

Um, I had this idea, we're already getting off topic, but uh wouldn't it be cool if Doritos or I guess Lay's just put the seasonings of all their chips in like a jar that you could season your food with. Like they would sell the seasonings, and then they could put out just blank chips, and it would be like you would you could make your own. Like you could get a blank Dorito and you could spice it up to be a Cheeto flavor.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

Um K. You're on to something. I I mean those things exist. You can get restaurant versions of their seasoning. I get it. I'm not saying it's a great idea, but yeah, sure. And that also reminds me of my idea for a quick serve restaurant, like a chipotle for checks mix. Go in the line, you pick out your corn. You're like, do you want your wheat? Do you want your rice? Do you want your the other two? I don't know. You can get it all together. You can add nuts and pretzels and brown butter and your seasonings, you get a dessert puppy chow later. So you got this tray, and then they stick it in the oven for however long. You can get it to go, or you can eat it there with a spoon. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

I yeah, right. I can see that restaurant being very profitable.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

I mean, you're kind of lying out the door.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

I like it.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

It's just pure carbs. Maybe you can get like some sort of asada or something, just have it sit out at a at Christmas. All right, good stuff. Are you ready to go with um on with the show?

SPEAKER_02 6:15

I guess so. Well, you have the I kind of have more to say about my Lay's idea because I please, please, please, please, yes, the shakers. But I think what Lays could do is it becomes a it, you know, they're always about like design your own perfect Dorito. There, you know, they have their competitions of like what flavor do you like better? And then we'll vote on it. This could be a nationwide contest, like, here's all here's all the flavors that we have. Build your own. And then you get to put, can you imagine a chicken breast with cool ranch seasoning on it? I would eat that all day long. I mean that think how good that would take.

SPEAKER_03 6:51

That sounds like something like a recipe on the back of a packet of Hidden Valley powder.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

Sure. This is the world we live in. We live in that hidden valley.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

Okay, this is this will be my second bad date story in a row. Anyway, this girl worked for Taco Bell in corporate, don't a headquarters. Wow. You better believe that's all I wanted to talk about.

SPEAKER_05 7:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 7:19

Uh, I didn't I didn't care about her freezing her eggs or whatever. Uh I don't want to hear about that. I wanted to know. Like, and she she was also part of the consumer like products in the grocery store placement. You know how you like you can buy Stevia and Sweetenlow and Equal in like a little box where they're all stacked in of little single packets of sugar or sweetener. Yeah. I told her to do that, but with mild sauce. I just said mild. You can get it at the grocery no, I said hot sauce. You can get it at the grocery store. It's like a little row of cardboard. You've but I guess you can just get a bottle of Taco Bell sauce now.

SPEAKER_06 8:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:07

Well, I thought it'd be cool to have out on the table instead of sweet and low.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

Absolutely. Give me, yeah. I would, I would, you know, even if it were just mild, I would I would buy that. So I like your idea.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

Is sugar is sugar in the raw, is that a brand? Because it always has that stencil look on it. It's got the same same font.

SPEAKER_02 8:31

Yeah, it's got yeah, it must be a brand.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

It has to be a but it's also just sugar, but in the raw. In the raw, very dirty, these old raw dogs.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

You raw dog and some sugar?

SPEAKER_03 8:43

Uh say our say our things about our matches ups. Our matches ups.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

So as you know, as you have to know by now, we are in the midst of a 64 song competition to figure out what song has the most jack biggest Jack FM vibes. Nailed it. Going off book on this one. Um what happened last week? It's been a minute. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:13

The new radicals, get what you give, beat the cover of Billy Idol's Money Money. That is one that I disagree with. But anyway, what do we got this week?

SPEAKER_02 9:25

This week we have Queen featuring David Bowie under pressure versus Aerosmith living on the edge. Where do you want to start?

SPEAKER_03 9:34

Well, let's start with Under Pressure.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

Okay. I didn't do a ton of research on Under Pressure. We all know this song. I found out that it was Bowie visiting Queen while they were recording, and he was supposed to just be doing some background vocals on whatever they were doing, and they were just jamming, having a good time. And Bowie was like, Hey Freddie, why don't we just write a new song? And so they were started writing this song, and from the sound of it, they completely didn't know what each other's parts were gonna be. Like they just wrote it blind, and really maybe even recorded some of it blind where they didn't know. This sounds like he was very coke-fueled weekend for everybody. And this is like Bowie past his Berlin era, so he's already sobered up a little, but it's no longer a Nazi.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

Yeah. No, but his Berlin, he did his big Berlin era that was supposed to be like his sobering up because he was like psychotically addicted to cocaine. And but you know, you you never you never not want cocaine. Um so Bowie was like, uh, yeah, I'll do some. I'm I'm fine. I can I'm fine to do some by this time. Um, so I had heard that they didn't know nobody ha is taking credit for the baseline. Like John Deacon is like, Bowie came up with that. And Bowie's like, No, I didn't. You wrote that thing before I got there. Like that thing just existed already. And then, of course, everyone was like, Well, I know who wrote it. Vanilla Ice, 20 years later.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

You guys better get your story straight before you lose it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

Yeah. Tell me, tell me what you know about that.

SPEAKER_03 11:27

Yeah, uh, John Deacon, he did the bass. Everybody was like, everybody was like, that's that is something else. That's really good. That's really good, John. Let's break for lunch when we come back, or let's break for tea when we come back, we'll get that on some tape. And uh they come back from lunch. Must have been a liquid lunch, if you know what I mean. Uh when they got back, John D could played it again, and everybody was like, that's not it. No, do what you did before. And he forgot, and they all kind of, yeah, said like, no, it sounded like this. No, it sounded like this. I guess they I guess they got it right, or whatever they lost. I uh I guess was not as good. Cause do you think vanilla ice made it famous, or did people love the bassy part beforehand?

SPEAKER_02 12:30

So that's actually kind of where I wanted to come in with this episode because I think that, you know, we are both of an age where this song came out when we were born. I don't think it fully became the recognizable song that it is until the vanilla ice controversy. You know, I think it's one of the biggest cases of musical interpolation um ever.

SPEAKER_03 12:54

Um also it might have been around the time of Freddie Mercury's death and Wave's World. So lots of a lot of goodwill on one side of the Right.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

And yeah, I kind of I do feel that way that maybe this song has the popularity because of the vanilla ice thing. I I don't know. I I tried to find information about it. It was a hit, but it I do think it really took off in the 90s. Um I think the baseline specifically, that vanilla ice thing became the cultural touch point for this song and what got us all into it. You know, he famously says he just added the one extra note, so it's a completely different baseline. Um, because his is Can you explain?

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Yeah, thank you. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

So theirs is do do do do do do do do do do do do do, and his is do do do do do do do do do do do do do or there's like one note missing uh uh yeah like the the time, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

It's yeah, it's crazy because it's the same thing, and later on he definitely admitted it. I believe that Bowie and Freddie Mercury are considered songwriters on Ice Ice Baby, which I'm sure David Bowie was so proud of for his late career. Like, yeah, I think that really so this song came out at 81. It's a it's it's a really cool song. It uh there is a track that circulated the internet a few years ago of just their vocals, and that's super cool to listen to because Freddie Mercury is just doing vocal gymnastics, his little scats and stuff are so amazing, he his voice sounds incredible, they sound great together. I love when they I love when the song builds to that ending of the why don't we give love one more chance, and like it just is so powerful and yeah, every every part of the song works in the ways it's supposed to, but yeah, I think because of that vanilla ice thing, it became its own thing because of that. It's it almost has nothing to do with Queen or David Bowie. I think of it as a radio song, I don't think of it as the Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:21

It's not like on, but it is on a Queen album, but it was kind of like the Mick Jagger David Bowie shit. Right, which that song was if I had to guess two singers who were fucking each other, I would not have thought it'd be Mick Jagger and David Bowie. I thought it'd be Freddie and David.

SPEAKER_02 15:39

Right. Well, I mean, we don't know. Maybe Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

No, I I don't think I don't think David Bowie and Freddie Mercury particularly liked each other because I know that David called last minute saying, like, I'm not happy about my backing vocals on that one song.

SPEAKER_02 15:54

And it was Cool Cat, right? Cool Cat was the song.

SPEAKER_03 15:57

Yep. And he was like, You need to stop the release.

SPEAKER_05 16:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 16:02

Yeah. Um and uh he also took David Bowie got the masters of this song. He was the one who chopped it up and made a song out of it. They were just going back and forth with sounds and verses, and uh David Bowie took complete control, much to the consternation of Freddy. They were just two alpha dogs. This was when David was putting on suits again after his like paranoia Nazi. It's kind of like a Kanye era David Bowie was in. I I I find the more I know about David Bowie, the less I like. Definitely look up Lori Maddox. Okay, 13 or 14. Uh also as a member of the LGBTQ community, I find it uh a little appropriate. He started, came out as gay right away. I love Hunky Dory. Hunky Dory is a perfect album. Uh perfect. You can you can miss me with Ziggy. And but I mean his 70s are cr pretty great. A few years later, in the mid to late 70s, he clarified that he's bisexual, and then the 80s hit, and he's he's he says he's heterosexual. He was just kind of a tourist, which I get it if you're questioning, but also I think his manager, who he had been friends with for a very, very long time, um and actually stole a lot of money from him, he kind of he kind of made David be the kind of androgynous era stuff. But yeah, you know, he was like a mod, he was in like a British invasion band and as David Jones.

SPEAKER_02 18:01

But right, his David Jones stuff is super n super milktose.

SPEAKER_03 18:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

Compared to everything that would come Bowie.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

Oh, he did he did do Starman on Top of the Pops, and um you cannot watch that because BBC deleted 500 episodes of Top of the Pops. They wiped them. The Beatles, every early performance is gone. I don't know what they what the reason was. Um real fair, I I I looked into a lot of Top of the Pops and which would have been helpful last episode, but uh the presenter Jimmy Seville, he was like a he was like a legend of British presenters after he died. He was like a broadcasting hero. Okay, and then after after he died, so many women came out with rape stories and oh good. God, fucking men.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

Men are the worst.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

And we haven't even gotten to the worst guy yet.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

Uh when he was David Jones, he was just kind of doing, like I said, milk toast stuff. He became friends with Mark Bolan of uh T-Rex, and you can really feel that Bowie is just doing Mark Bolan. He is taking over, he's completely changing his approach to music to sound like T-Rex. And I will say when in con like I am a big David Bowie fan of his music. I didn't know all of this creeper stuff, but also that track. Oh god, he sucks. Yeah. Um, but when you think about Bowie and Queen, Queen, I believe their first album comes out in '73. Um, and they're really their own thing right away. They're so hard to put in a box, they are completely original. And Bowie, like you were saying, with his sexuality, he's doing that same thing with his music. He's just trying to find where he fits. And I think he gets a lot of credit for creating this psychedelic aesthetic, but I really think he's just kind of cosplaying. So it that to me kind of tracks with everything you're saying about him. Um, I did want to say about this song, Freddie Mercury's ad libs were never meant to make the final, but nobody could come up with something that sounded better. They were like, uh, granted, everyone was probably very high, and we're like, whatever, man. Yeah, man, it's it's jazz. Don't you got something better, Freddie?

SPEAKER_06 20:56

Okay, I'm using it. Well, you got nothing.

SPEAKER_03 21:01

He sounds like sounds like a Hannah Barbera character.

unknown 21:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 21:06

Hey there, Freddie.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

You got nothing.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

I got nothing. Stage lift, even. Yeah, the whole thing is the whole song is very cut and paste. I think the reception of the song, it's one of those things where the reception of the song puts the bad taste in my mouth. The 20, 30 years since the song came out, I don't like how we like the song. I don't like how the listeners love the song and are so excited about it, plus the vanilla ice aspect of it, like really just taint what the song is. Yeah, I don't I don't love this song. I've started to think about these songs, these Jack FM songs, as Wrigleyville songs, and that's very specific for Chicagoland, but these things play in Wrigleyville. These are the soundtrack of the cubby bear.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Of maybe uh I don't want to say bros, maybe a step above bros, normies?

SPEAKER_06 22:09

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

Just normies, yeah, most of most of the population of the world. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

You know, is this Queen's best song? No. Is this Bowie's best song? No. They both have it on their greatest hits because it's a giant hit, and it definitely is a Jack FM vibe. I've definitely heard it on Jack FM. You cannot discredit this intro because it's one of the most famous licks in music history. That's all I really want to say about that song for now.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

I do love Toward the End. What is that? Like not an outro, but like from a bridge to the outro. It's mostly Bowie.

SPEAKER_06 23:02

It's a very well constructed song. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

I think Freddie was being pragmatic. He was just like, okay, okay, David, go for it. Because I'm sure Freddie was not one to give up control for things. Right. Yeah. Uh he doesn't strike me as easygoing. I mean I I don't think he's uh I'm sure he's uh was a great human. Definitely probably the best human that we're talking about today. But uh probably but uh yeah no, Queen, I didn't see the movie. Have you seen Bohemian Rhapsody? Yeah, I saw it. Is there anything to learn? Like what what is it about? What is Queen?

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Nothing stuck for me really. I like Queen, but um terms of the movies that came out around that time, Rocket Man was great. Rocket Man was really enjoyed. Yeah, that movie is fantastic. Um, but yeah, the Bohemian Rhapsody was just kind of like weird.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

I think what's love got to do with it, that's the fucking music movie. Nobody knew what a little shithead Ike was. I mean, people knew. Now everyone knew. I love that. And uh I saw Rocket Man and I felt like it was almost like an official biography, like they had to get a lot signed off by Elton John. That's why you gotta wait for people to die.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

Right. Um Yeah, I don't remember what I was reading, but the story of Elton John trying to kill himself when he was young, when he was about to get married, and he like had his head in an oven, uh, but he forgot to turn it on, and his uh writing partner was like, Oh, Elton, you buff food, you can't even do this right. Just come out already.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

All he has to do is put his arm up and turn a fucking knob. What or did he need like a match? Is it a potbelly?

SPEAKER_02 24:59

Who's his burning? Make me hungry again.

SPEAKER_03 25:02

Oh fuck it. God, I I want to open a potbelly in Westwood. Just all the UCLA kits. Oh, that thing would be a money hose.

SPEAKER_06 25:15

Money hose.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

There are wonderful buildings in Westwood that are empty that a potbellies would do very nice in.

SPEAKER_05 25:23

Yes, potbellies would kill there.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Okay, so I I like this song. It's better than the Mick Jagger David Bowie duet.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Not agreeing with that.

SPEAKER_03 25:35

What? You're kidding. I mean, I love that. You love dancing in the street?

SPEAKER_01 25:43

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

You're fucking shitting me. You're having a you're taking the piss.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

No, I I legitimately love it. I think it's so weird. It's it's giving David Lee Roth the video for that is fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

Okay, when we come back, I'm uh talk about Aerosmith. That sounded offensive. I'm gonna talk about Aerosmith, uh Living on the Edge when we come back.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

So whenever they remake the Thundercast, Crystal Z is totally gonna play Tri-Happy International Women's Day, fellow women.

SPEAKER_03 26:22

All right, welcome back to Jactical Magic. Aerosmith. I'm talking Livin' on the Edge, which has some similarities to our last song, where they're both just singing about society's ills in a very vague way, not political, like just about the world.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

They do have on the same album, they have Eat the Rich, which is a little bit more of a political stance, but and I believe that.

SPEAKER_03 26:54

I mean, they were broke in the late 70s, mid-80s. So anyway, this is this is maybe a third act, Jack, because Aerosmith in the 70s worked more on the Led Zeppelin hard rock side. Also, this this has a lot to do with Sunset Strip, where David Bowie also was. I think Steven Tyler also had sex with Lori Maddox and there were the there were these just sunset, they were called groupie babies or baby groupies, and everyone knew them. So let me just start out with in 73, Steven Tyler's age 25, and he meets a fan named Julie Holcomb, who's 15. They were doing a show in Portland, and he was a rock star. He loved having sex with young girls, and so he wanted to, he, you know, he wanted to uh he wanted her to come stay on the bus so he could the relationship had to be completely one side or like controlling. But anyway, how do you take a 15-year-old girl on the road with you across state lines? Wouldn't that be trafficking of a minor? Well, the record companies knew how to keep their keep their rock stars out of jail. Steven Tyler goes to Julie's parents and gets um legal guardianship of Julie. And she gets to stay on the bus and get fucked by Steven Tyler. Oh Jesus, those parents, the just nobody comes off great. The world is just um and like so. The Sunset Strip was full of this shit. The Hyatt down the street was known as it was the Hyatt House, but it was known as the Riot House because this is where all the rock stars would stay and play on the Sunset Strip. You know, Capitol Records is like a 15-minute drive from the Sunset Strip. These people knew God, the whole industry is just a fucking shitty. Yeah. Jimmy Page, David Bowie, I Motley Crue, just take your pick, Guns N' Roses, they're all just perverts and pedophiles. Right. I I don't get it. I don't get what it is about playing music and being attracted to underage women. You play music. What's what's the tell us what what goes on in your head?

SPEAKER_02 29:31

It just comes with with being having people thrust themselves upon you and you're famous and you can do whatever you want. Yeah. You're right. It's probably a power. It's the lack of consequences.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

You're right. Uh did you know that Viper Room's getting torn down for one of those large multi-purpose gray concrete boring buildings?

SPEAKER_02 29:55

I I had heard that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

I mean, they're putting a viper room in the bottom in the ground floor, but the viper room's the smelliest building I've ever walked into. I walked into I walked into livestock slaughterhouses that smelled more pleasant than the Viper. All right, so anyway, they were in that scene in the 70s by '77, let's say, they were putting out some stinkers.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

And but I will say, I will say about that though. Uh Steven Tyler, to me, I always picture him as 80s hair metal silly and doing that stuff. To think about the fact that Let It Be came out three years before Dream On. That's insane to me. Like he's I wrote that.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Did you well?

SPEAKER_03 30:53

I wrote down that the Beatles had not legally dissolved by the time Aerosmith already existed. Not, I don't think they had an album yet, but they were they were a band in yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

Right.

SPEAKER_03 31:05

Yes. The Beatles were still. Yeah, that's just it doesn't track in my brain that that's like that Martin Luther King and Anne Frank being the same age. I mean, I guess it makes sense when you think about it. Well, one's a girl, one's a black and white girl, and uh Martin Luther King is sometimes. Um Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Yeah, they're this they're basically the same age. That's weird. Um so anyway, Steven and Joe, they're known as the Toxic Brothers because they were it was just constant drugs, constant fucking. They shared the same family of crabs on their pubis. This is they shared the same pubic lice family. That's the best thing they're talking about. Of course they're toxic brothers. And uh Steven Tyler's scarves I know that you feel strongly about them, but they have a little Houdini pocket like sewn in them. Steven Tyler does not let people touch those scarves. Cause just loose cocaine in those pockets. There's cocaine on everywhere. Like if you're on stage at an Aerosmith concert, you better watch your step. Because they have hidden drugs and alcohol, just huge bottles of um, I think rum, which is cool. Uh oh, there was also Quaaludes in that pocket. Uh, it feels like a detail. Oh, and Steven, which I do like this about him. He has two Gin Martinis every uh right before every concert, which not anymore, but that's a classy, that's a classy move. Especially Gin. Good for him. Very classy.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

Right before he goes on his Coke scavenger hunt on the stage.

SPEAKER_03 33:14

Exactly. It's like it's like an Easter hunt.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

So I I never knew he was using his mic stand for pharmaceutical use. I I always just thought he was trying to sneak it into the Renfare.

SPEAKER_03 33:32

Okay, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna pick apart the joke. Please do.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

Is the microphone at the Renaissance fair or is he bringing in his own he's trying to bring in a microphone, which obviously is modern technology, and that is not okay in the Renfair?

SPEAKER_03 33:49

That's true. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. You need to you need to do theater in the round. Yeah. So is so is he performing at the Renaissance fair? I think he's just chomping down on some turkey legs. So he wants to bring the microphone stand to the Renaissance fair as a friend. Yeah, he's friends with the microphone stand. Um uh and um I don't know, someone threw a cherry bomb at one of these concerts, uh, and uh I think hit Steven in the eye, like his eye exploded or something. I I should think, ooh, which is similar to how David Bowie had that like lollipop under his eyelid. Didn't he? Was that was it a sucker, or like, or am I misremembering? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Actually, I don't know. I I don't even want to say because he has the two different eye colors. He got like he he like got hurt as a kid and that happened.

SPEAKER_03 34:48

No, there's like a photograph of him on stage. I think someone threw like a blow pop or something. That's a blow pop. That's a blow pop, and it's under his eyes.

SPEAKER_05 35:01

Sour apple. Watermelon. Ta-da!

SPEAKER_02 35:05

Ta-da! Featuring that'd be great if Bowie was in that commercial. Safe from chomp.

SPEAKER_03 35:13

What? What? Charms.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

Nothing has ever stayed in my brain. That commercial is cemented in my brain. Like, yeah, I will remember that on my deathbed while I'm looking at my family, who I cannot, for the life of me, recall. I will do the charms blow pop commercial for them.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

That's very that's very true. Uh, and for a commercial being made, God, that had a long tail. They got their money's worth out of that shit.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

Yeah, I hope those kids got some resids.

SPEAKER_03 35:48

Uh, they didn't. Well, no, if you get lines.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

That one kid who forgot the line didn't get a residual check, and his parents are like, No, because he did he did strawberry or he did because what the heck? No, he's he's sour apple, but he forgot.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

Oh yeah, sour apple, man.

SPEAKER_02 36:07

And so he doesn't say it and he bombs his head after her.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

Doesn't he have something at the end? Is he the one who forgets? Ooh, do you think he got a concussion and he forgot his line? Is that the story?

SPEAKER_02 36:19

We just have to film him. We only have this kid for 10 more minutes anyway. Just film him.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

That's the plot of the commercial. That's the character. He got hit in the head by that green apple on the pole, and he suffered a brain injury. And then no, and then he goes to then he lies down and takes a nap, and he doesn't wake up.

SPEAKER_02 36:41

Oh I'm sure this should man, what a I didn't realize the commercial was so dark.

SPEAKER_03 36:47

Yeah, this should be a really overwroug YouTube that gets shared. Um, you will not believe the the dark story behind the one blowpop commercial ever made. Um they okay, so that's the first act. Aerosmith was persona non-grata during the 80s. They sucked, but they just couldn't do shit. Joe Perry quit, did his own little thing, didn't go well.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

I think that their second act kind of also came from the fact that they completely destroyed themselves. Like Steven Tyler completely fucked up his voice so much so that the music changed entirely. For most of my life, I thought Dream On was a Led Zeppelin song because I just didn't it didn't make sense that it could be an Aerosmith song. He's got a very melodic, very pretty sounding voice, and then yeah, then he just kind of it gets real gravelly in the 80s.

SPEAKER_03 37:49

And then they decided to get clean, get some songwriters, and then they had the late 80s. That's the aerosmith that everybody knows. It's the aerosmith that I first knew. Love in an elevator, Janie's got a gun, ragdoll, dude looks like a lady. These were all like two albums, maybe 88 and 89. Pump, I remember. My brother had the cassette of Pump, and it was like front to back bangers. Uh, that was a really fun period of Aerosmith. Then, you know, 91 comes along. Rock and roll looks fucking different. They're they're friends, Warrant, Poison, Motley Crue, they they get sent out on a ice flow. Nobody wants them. Yeah, nobody wants these long hairs. They want kind of medium-length hair.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

You're talking about Warrant and all these guys. It does feel like Aerosmith, in a lot of ways, is the prototype for those bands, which again is not something that I instinctually think of. I think of them as just being part of that scene, but being around for so long.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

They realized they were, you know, pushing 50. They weren't going to compete with these alternatives, these grungies. So they got a bunch of writers. They were Aerosmith's like the luckiest band. They've got a fucking Disney roller coaster, which I know we have to talk about. I did learn what black tar heroin is, which I've heard all my life. It's just like a really crappy, cheap, full of impurities heroin. It doesn't get you any higher. It's just disgusting, dirty heroin.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Interesting. Were they talk about it or something?

SPEAKER_03 39:47

Yeah. I mean, it's a huge part of their down period, the late 70s, early 80s. They had like no money. They went from arenas to very small venues, and they couldn't even sell those out until like the love in an elevator dude looks like a lady. And then Mrs. Doubtfire catapult the to the now that was much later than Do you think that was the trailer house? That or wait, is that in the movie in the montage?

SPEAKER_02 40:14

I'm pretty sure it is, but it definitely was in the trailer.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

When he's dancing with the vacuum. Yeah. Or she, I guess we should gender Mrs. Doubtfire. Uh it's an eye.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

Wait, what's her name?

SPEAKER_03 40:25

Yeah. What is her name? I don't know. I hated when Robin Williams was answering the want ads, but as other characters to like scare uh his ex-wife. And he did a I used to be a man joke as a laugh. And I think Sally Fields, or like that was meant to be like a red flag.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

Well, yeah, her reaction is was bad.

SPEAKER_03 40:47

Yeah. Oh, okay, I'll I'll get back to you. And or I don't even think she said that.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

The whole thing doesn't throw that on the whole thing seems pretty problematic now. Yeah. Including the Aerosmith song.

SPEAKER_03 40:59

Okay, so anyway, okay, so the state of music in 91, 92, it's very anti-hairband, anti-like sexy body, just fuck party songs. Right. So once again, they got some new songwriters, a lot of new songwriters. They put out Get a Grip. Now, this album was so huge, they knew they couldn't sing songs about the party shit. So they had to come up with a new thing, but they couldn't get super political. Living on the Edge was their first single out of seven singles for this album. This album went on for so long, and it went right into their greatest hits, and they squeezed another song out of Get a Grip to put it on that album. They were the top still. They were that was their third act.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

Right. This is their tenth album 20 years into their career. And it goes wild. That's in that's that's pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

It is pretty crazy that we like accepted it. And here's the big reason we accepted is Crazy, Amazing, and Crying. Right. And that was a series of videos starring Alicia Silverstone and then later Live Tyler and Alicia Silverstone. Right. Just such a smart little move because we didn't have to look at these 49-year-olds. They are in the Living on the Edge video. Steven and Joe look great. The other guys are just dads. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:39

Totally. I remember always as a kid thinking that no man on earth could have more rock solid abs than Joe Perry. Because he always never had a shirt on. He looks like a very ripped dermantel rooney or something.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

I don't know. As a kid, I was like, that's a that's a hot dude.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

I didn't know about all the crab business, but they were kind of really, really pretty cool. I was thinking for this tournament, Living on the Edge was the first song. And then that trilogy. And then there was more. But for Jacksonical Magic, you know, Crazy or Crying could have been on there, but I feel like it is three songs. I can't split Crazy and Crying, and whatever Amazing sounds like. I've I've listened to and it's Amazing sounds so similar to Crying, which came out first. The video is more Alicia Silverstone, but it's VR. But anyway, yeah, I couldn't separate those three, and I kind of felt like that disqualified crying a little. The Living on the Edge video is Edward Furlong, who is the mayor of The Edge.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

Fallen off of it entirely.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

Yeah, he hasn't seen The Edge in And he brings a gun to school. Oh, the teacher is played by a female impersonator, female teacher who all the students think is hot. And then the video ends with that teacher at home, which I guess back then would be known as a transvestite. We see them put on the wig and go out the door, but it was like a night. I don't understand what they were trying to say with our teachers are now boys dressing up. We're living on the edge, you guys. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I have no idea what they were trying to say with that.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

I didn't go back and watch that video, so I don't remember that. But I don't need to go back and watch the other videos because they are like peak adolescent informative videos. Have I ever told you my Liv Tyler movie story? Maybe, but it doesn't come to mind. All right by all means. So remember she had that movie Robot and Frank with uh what's his name? Franklin Gello and James Morrisden? It's like a little indie movie. Sounds familiar, and I do believe I saw it. Yeah. Yeah. So I went to see that at the Sunset Lamley Theater, the little artsy theater in Hollywood. Uh-huh. And probably about two weeks into its run, say there are about eight people there. And five minutes into the movie, previews are done. These two people walk in. One of them looks like an unhoused person, and the other is already on his phone. And they sit down in the row in front of me. The guy who was on his phone dressed in all black, just real douchey looking, on his phone, the entire movie. The other guy, the unhoused guy, who's head-to-toe rags, starts drumming on the safety railing throughout the entire movie. And I'm just this it's so obnoxious, it's hard to listen to the movie. And so when the movie ends, I say, I decide I'm gonna say something. And in my very passive, aggressive way, I'm just going to say something loudly enough for somebody to hear me. And my friend Chris was like, Don't do it. Don't say anything. And I said, It was sure great to hear this movie, how this movie would sound with drums throughout it. I said some something along those lines. The man stands up, locks eyes with me, and barks at me like a Rottweiler. And I'm just standing there stunned, and I'm like, Chris, did you see that? Chris is, no, I couldn't look. I was like, that was Steven Tyler. Steven Tyler barked at me. And then when we were leaving the theater, we both had this moment where we were like, holy shit, we were watching his daughter's movie with him, and that's how he was acting during it. What is he have to go to her house for dinner and he had to quickly catch up to see the movie two weeks into its run? Wow. So that's a little Hollywood story for you.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

I love that because um, yeah, it seemed obligatory, like, oh, I gotta go see my daughter's movie. Yeah. I don't know. I got nothing else to say. I I didn't realize the song went on for so long. It's like a six-minute song. So there have been.

SPEAKER_02 47:04

I will say if you if I can say a couple quick things about this song, this album. Please do. So my sister was already in college. I didn't have somebody older than me showing me music. So I really didn't know Aerosmith at all until this album, I'd say. This was like where I discovered Aerosmith on my own with the rest of the world. And so I had this album, and it is crazy to me that it's so late in their career, and then it goes to have some of the most seminal songs of their career. I will say that for this song, and I've been excited about this for a long time. When I was in seventh grade and we had to dissect a pig, mind you, I was still super into Weird Al. I wrote my Weird Al version of Living on the Edge. And it went a little something like this. Something's weird in science class. I don't know what it is. Smells I don't recognize. There's a tray on every desk, and there's a scalpel in my hand. Got Femel to hide in my eyes.

SPEAKER_03 48:10

Incision in the pig! Could you do the What is it? Incision in the pig.

SPEAKER_06 48:15

Incision in the pig.

SPEAKER_03 48:16

See, you always do that. You hide behind your great shit by saying it's like, oh, this is a fake somebody else's song. When you could have been high school Weird Owl.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

I should have tried that.

SPEAKER_03 48:29

Yeah, I feel like kids would be very receptive to that.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

Yeah, incision in the pig. You can't help yourself from barfin. Really good.

SPEAKER_03 48:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

Really good stuff.

SPEAKER_03 48:42

Okay. Weird Al would not keep those lyrics right out of the box.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

So that I mean that's yeah, that's where Al and I we part ways. I go a little bit more blue. I go a little bit more toily humor.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

Let's see. Okay, so then I don't like the Armageddon song. Sure. Don't want to miss a thing. Right. Diane Warren, not a good song.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

No. When I was thinking about it, I for a second I was like, wait a minute, does Aerosmith sing that song? I got him confused in my head. I've never seen Titanic, and it just for a split second was there's no way. That's the that's that other song. But yeah, I don't like that song. Certainly has to be their biggest hit, right?

SPEAKER_03 49:24

Yes, not even close. Yes. I find that song really lame and doesn't have a melody, if anything. And then they came out in what 99 with Pink? Oh, Pink was 97. So okay, so Pink came before Don't Wanna Miss a Thing. And then uh and what's their other one at that time?

SPEAKER_02 49:50

Just Push Play, maybe?

SPEAKER_03 49:51

Just push play was like two albums later. Really? No, the other the other one was very big too.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

I'm just gonna say this about Aerosmith. They become the characters the way that the Rolling Stones did, but they keep making songs that I mean I don't want to listen to them, but they are popular songs and are radio songs. I don't think the Rolling Stones have had something on the radio worth listening to in 30 years, but Aerosmith is up until what 15 years ago is still putting out singles.

SPEAKER_03 50:29

Jaded was the song I was thinking of.

SPEAKER_02 50:31

That was huge.

SPEAKER_03 50:32

Jaded was pretty big. That was on just push play, which was 2000. Okay. Wow. Yeah, they had Get a Grip in '93, '94. Yeah. They had it's called Big Ones, which was a huge of. And then that got them into '98 with Armageddon. Armageddon out of here, whenever I hear that song. And then that got them to in 2004, they had an album called Honkin' on Bobo. And the cover is a harmonica on red velvet. Oh, with lipstick on it, right? With lipstick.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

Yeah, I remember. Is Bobo the harmonica?

SPEAKER_03 51:17

And then, you know, the rock and roller coaster did close last month. I know.

SPEAKER_02 51:21

RAP.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

What did you think of the rock and roller coaster?

SPEAKER_02 51:25

So I think I only wrote it maybe once or twice. It feels right that it closed. It is absolutely insane that that exists and that it's Aerosmith at especially now hearing about this crab thing.

SPEAKER_03 51:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:41

Disney already has a famous crab. We don't need we don't need a new crab family in this park.

SPEAKER_03 51:47

Very good.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

Yeah, it's it was always weird to me that that existed. And then I wrote it and I was like, that's even weirder now. You start off in the sound booth, right? Like you're in the recording studio, but they're in the mixing room.

SPEAKER_03 52:02

Yes. Okay, so you walk into like there's albums and like gold records on the walls and stuff, and then you are put into a room that would like you would be in the sound booth, and you're looking at an empty mixing room, uh-huh. And then like a hologram of I think Ken Marino's in it. Uh he plays the uh engineer, he has no lines. I wish I remembered that. I remember him and Ileana Douglas more than I remember Aerosmith.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

I remember that for sure.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

And then so they all like holograms of them walking in and Ileana Douglas, their manager. Then she's like, We gotta go. You're playing at a concert, and then they'll go out the back. They remember the alley, and that's where you get in your limo. And it's just an ugly minute-long roller coaster that looks like shit. It's an indoor coaster. Right. It had fluorescent guitars, and I do remember the the what is that called? The fret of like a guitar outside was kind of twisty and full of yeah, music notes and stars, and I know that sweet emotion, and I do know that love in an elevator was in there. That's all I remember.

SPEAKER_02 53:21

Yeah, I do. I mean, I think that that was the first upside-down roller coaster I'd been on at Disney, not at any park, but because I hadn't been to California yet to ride California Screaming, which I think it might actually just be the same ride, just outside. It's a very similar ride. No, Screaming's bigger. No, they definitely both had that launch.

SPEAKER_03 53:42

Screaming is bigger, way bigger. Yeah. You can tell that Aerosmith has a very small footprint because I I'm always very aware of the metal rafters and stuff that you can look at. Like Space Mountain. Whenever I'm on Space Mountain, I'm always afraid of getting that little flap of skin that holds your gums and your upper lip sliced off. I don't know why the bars would only get that part of my face. Yeah, at least not decapitate me. But I'm so afraid for that little flap whenever I ride Space Mountain. Interesting. And the the rock and roll, I I also believe it had one of those instant launches.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

That's what I'm talking about. That's why I think of it as California's Screaming, because they both do that.

SPEAKER_03 54:28

California Screaming has an instant launch? Yeah, I thought it goes up a hill.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

Okay. Well, it it goes up uh it launches you up the hill.

SPEAKER_03 54:34

California Screaming was, God, it's such a pleasure, such a smooth ride. I don't like I don't like the Incredible Coaster. Don't do that. Don't fucking do that. And I'm a fan of the Incredibles.

SPEAKER_02 54:46

Right. Yeah, I California Screaming was perfect. They messed up big time there. Um but you're right. I do remember thinking that the decorations inside the Aerosmith ride were tacky. They felt like a carnival ride, or like in an old-timey movie when somebody's walking down the street and all the neon signs are like a Homer Simpson walking down the street seeing all the neon signs.

SPEAKER_03 55:10

Yeah, you only see the signs. It's very cheap looking inside. The black light colors, the fluorescent. I know there's some part of traffic, or there's like a mural of LA traffic. That's all I know.

SPEAKER_02 55:26

I think the worst part about that ride, though, is the fact that you have to listen to Arrowsmith. Like have it be rock and roll in general and like go through the time periods. Disney could have found a much better way to make that work.

SPEAKER_03 55:41

They could have made the great movie ride, like have a whole family, the great music ride.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

Yeah, that would have been sick.

SPEAKER_03 55:47

That would have been sick. They did approach Rolling Stones first for the rock and roller coaster.

unknown 55:52

Right.

SPEAKER_03 55:53

And Rolling Stones wanted too much. They wanted seven to ten million dollars a year. Just for licensing. Yeah. Just for licensing their old already recorded music.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

And then I bet whoever pitched the idea took the Rolling Stones logo and then just drew Steven Tyler's face around it since his mouth already looks like that. He's gotta be mad that they got that logo. Because that's his mouth.

SPEAKER_03 56:22

That should be his, yeah. Yeah. Why does it what does Aerosmith have? Like a motorcycle tire and wings or something? Definitely wings. Okay. Anyway, that's all I gotta say. I think everybody in this in this episode's pretty bad except for Fred, Freddie. Right. Everybody's an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 56:42

Right. Well, we'll come back and we'll talk about our opinions and do the results. Alright, we're back. What's your take on these two songs?

SPEAKER_03 56:59

Okay, I was thinking Living on the Edge right away, but I didn't realize it was so long. There may be a radio edit because I can't imagine Jack FM. Although maybe they do play long songs.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

Yeah, they play Bohemian Rhapsody and they definitely always play the two-part We Will Rock You, We Are the Champions. So they're not afraid of a long song.

SPEAKER_03 57:22

And they do the Tainted Love. They've got they've got no problem with album cuts and stuff. Right. Also, I don't know, Living on the Edge, just living on the Edge. That feels Jack FM. Right. Other than that, I do feel like Jack FM would embrace. I don't know. If Aerosmith had a perfect Jack FM song, do you think it'd be Cryon? Crying would be, yeah. Maybe Crying or Crazy.

SPEAKER_02 57:48

I can't.

SPEAKER_03 57:50

Crazy? Yeah. Crazy's a little slower. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:53

I think Crying. I think you're right, Cryon.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

Okay. I just didn't want, I honestly, I I don't know. I kind of thought Cryon was just, yeah, just part of a set. I just didn't want to separate them. So I went with Livin' on the Edge, which is the rockiness one of that album. Yes. However, I think Under Pressure has more Jack FM vibes.

SPEAKER_05 58:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:19

Jack FM loves Queen. I have heard I've had I've heard some Bowie's on Jack FM. I've definitely heard Let's Dance, not a good song.

SPEAKER_02 58:31

Maybe China Girl also problematic.

SPEAKER_03 58:35

Yeah. Um, and then wait, why is Let's Dance uh problematic?

SPEAKER_02 58:40

No, I just mean with everything else we're talking about in this episode. Let's Dance is fine. It's got that Stevie Ray Von guitar solo.

SPEAKER_03 58:48

I don't know. Maybe Young Americans. That's that's a great song, but God, I don't know. I do want Aerosmith to like stick around.

SPEAKER_02 58:58

Well, it's funny you say that because I actually came into this week looking at our bracket, and I realized something that kind of troubled me. Aerosmith does come up later on another song that technically they're just featured on, but what song? What song? Uh Walk This Way, Run DMC. Shit. And technically, Run DMC is covering Aerosmith. They're not adding more to it, they're just doing Aerosmith's cover with Aerosmith. And Aerosmith is considered a featured artist. So yeah, I really was thinking about Under Pressure and Living on the Edge. And I do think of this week, Under Pressure deserves to win between these two songs. And I kind of think that we still do get Aerosmith. And I I'm questioning whether or not that's okay in the rules. Is that something that we have to reach out to the commissioner to ask if a band can be featured?

SPEAKER_03 59:59

Okay. Well, I I I mean, that is the rule. Only one song can appear in the tournament. Right. And walk this way, whether or not Run DMC is the reason it is another song by Aerosmith. Fuck. Okay, well, I guess we should see. I don't know. Maybe we maybe this is a moot point. All right, so I have the results of this week's tournament with 53.85% of the vote. Aerosmith's living on the edge beats under pressure by Queen and David Bowie, who got 46.15% of the vote. Wow. So kind of close.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

Very close.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

46 to 54? Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a few off.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:55

Yeah, so I don't I don't know what to do with. I mean, I get I guess Aerosmith does stay in the tournament. And shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:02

I know we have a voicemail that I haven't even heard. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:05

Well, let's listen to that.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:06

Let's play it.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:10

Amelia Cooper. Steven Timmer here from the band Aerosmith. I wanted to come up and say that of all the podcasts about the radio stations. This one has been my favorite. You have great chemistry. Wonderful things in these magics have been super. I didn't want to say that when some of this particular magic this week. We love those games and we think this is a wonderful song. We do believe that we could be this we don't want to jump in the place in the competition because we've got this way. Give this one to Queen. Congratulations, Queen. We will see you soon, and it's gonna be a nice different. Um so uh Joe says Joe Perry from the band Arrowsmith.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:38

Wow, that's ladies and gentlemen. That blew my mind a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:43

Ladies and gentlemen, do you okay? That was that was Steven Tyler. That was Steven Tyler.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

I mean that sounded like him, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:53

I I think you're right. That no, it he said it was Steven Tyler, so okay, so he's he's he's forfeiting?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

Yeah, that's that's what I heard.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

That's incredibly selfless.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:07

Now I bet you wish you took back all that nasty stuff you said about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:15

To take her over state lines.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:17

Nothing's gonna make up for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:19

I do love the crabs. They both have the same family of crabs on their pupus. Um wow. Okay, so I mean, if he is taking it out of the tournament, then yeah, under pressure wins.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:35

Is that what we're saying? I mean, uh he's asking to be taken out of the tournament. He's technically voting for under pressure, so that's another vote for under pressure. I don't know if that changes our numbers.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:47

Then it's a tie.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:48

So it's a tie, it's another tie, but he's asking to forfeit. So then what do we do?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:54

We may not well, I never I don't think we allowed forfeiting in the it just can't. It's not like an event, it it's a song that already exists. It's out there. I guess we do have to all right, folks. We're gonna get a commissioner on here in weeks. We promise we have to, because we've got a really big one coming up that we need to settle. So I don't know. Let's call it a tie for now. And wow, okay, this is yeah, this is odd.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:25

I had no uncharted uh podcast territory.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:29

Yeah, and there are a million podcasts out, and this has not happened once.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:33

Yes, this has not happened once, as far as I know. Wow, unbelievable. This thing just keeps surprising me. Uh, first of all, I'm surprised that it won to begin with. I wonder if he would take it back if he knew that it was gonna win. Maybe that was like a yeah, maybe that was like a cop out.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:48

Yeah, yeah. He he seems gracious now, right, but he really was afraid of the results.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:55

Maybe, but he does he did sound pretty confident about Walk This Way.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

That is funny because in the rock and roller coaster before the load-in- with that hologram, I think they were recording another version of Walk This Way in the studio. And I was like, wait, that they're doing another one, they had to go back to the studio for uh walk this way. So yeah, maybe he really is. Yeah, maybe that's his baby. Okay. Well, I mean, I I think we need to kick it upstairs.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:29

Yeah, I don't think it this is this is definitely uh above our pay grade. So we will get this solved. We still have the Cheryl Crow issue to solve. This is getting out of hand. We're too many spinning plates in the air.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:43

Okay, well, yeah, we're sorry, folks. I know that's that's a real big thunder railroad of a result.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:50

Another wild round. Um, a Cinderella story, I think they call it. No, that's not right, but something. All right. So next week for match fifteen, we have the arrhythmics here comes the rain again. Versus Tony Basil's Hey Mickey. Really good stuff. I can tell that those melody pop lessons are really paying off.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:47

I know. My t well, my teacher, she could tell I wasn't practicing and read me to filth, as they say. Yes. Read me the riot act. She took it back. Yeah. We will see you next week. And this has been Tactical Magic. Magic. Goodbye. Goodbye. You are the weakest thing. Goodbye.