Flashback - The Pilot - June 1992

Boot up the CRT and jump back to 1992 with us as we relive a summer when California Games felt like a whole arcade in one cart, Super Smash TV turned co‑op into bedlam, and Streets of Rage made the living room sound like a neon city. We trade notes on surfing technique, hacky sack timing, and why some micro‑events had ridiculous staying power with friends. Then we draw a bright line between thrills and theory: arcade sprites that hit fast versus early 3D sims that promised a future. F‑19 and MicroProse’s F1 Grand Prix steal our hearts with hot‑seat teamwork, track elevation, and the kind of pit‑stop strategy that makes you cheer for your mate between stints.

Our news round is pure ’92 energy. The rumored MagiDrive skirts the edge between backups and piracy, raising hard questions we still ask today. Dr. Franken gets rebuilt for SNES instead of lazily ported, and we geek out over the Mega Stand, a tubular steel altar to cable sanity that every bedroom needed. We even debate a battery rejuvenator for Game Gear sessions: cost‑saver or leak magnet? The conversation lands on the choices that defined portable play and why quality cells and simple habits beat shortcuts.

Finally, we throw open Stingray’s boot for releases: Echo the Dolphin sounds wild and ambitious, Super Mario Kart gets a skeptical side‑eye as a Mode 7 novelty, and Championship Manager divides us between spreadsheet glory and on‑pitch action. Along the way we pick VHS tapes, shout out pen pals, and set our next play list from Stunt Car Racer to Supercars 2. If you love retro gaming, early sims, and the culture that made them stick, you’ll feel right at home.

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Transcript

Welcome To 1992

SPEAKER_04 0:38

Welcome to UCP Productions, brings you Flashback. Yep. We are, as George said, we're in 1992, and it's me, RGT, joined by the very youthful George from 1992.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Still with a bit of stubble there, but Yeah, I was gonna say testosterone took a victim in 1992 with me, didn't it? Slapped me with a beard, a deep voice. I'm okay with it.

SPEAKER_04 1:05

You look like the kid who's been put back a few years.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

I think the idea of it is that we're adults that have come maybe back in time, not weird because Hey Rajiti, how are you?

SPEAKER_04 1:17

Is that what you say tonight?

SPEAKER_06 1:18

Yeah, Pip Pedas.

SPEAKER_04 1:21

Oh dear. That's a great start. This is gonna be PG either.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

It is. This is that. I don't think any of that was illegal. Let's get into it.

SPEAKER_04 1:29

Yeah, so basically, this is gonna be our standard show, but set in a random time each time we record it. So as we say, this is June 1992. Um, we will be doing various ones from hopefully from all different eras. We will be talking about what we've been playing in this era, we'll be talking about what the new releases are, a bit of news, um, what the uh um latest games are that we're hoping to play. Um, and we all hopefully wrap it all in the UCP package, but just with that little flashback element, hence why it's called flashback. Um, so I think we'll have to start, George, with what have you been playing?

SPEAKER_03 2:08

Ah, well.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

Uh yeah, it is. Um so I have been playing California games. Now I know everyone's hyping on about playing that on Mega Drive. I'm playing it on Master System. So I'm quite keen to see how that there's no need for that face. Some of us Mumsy bought me it, bought me it, so she got me a new game. Master System.

SPEAKER_04 2:37

Yeah, that's that was my old master system, yeah. Yeah, because I I upgraded to Mega Drive 16-bit of power.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

Oh, right, okay, that's the law, is it? Because I was just about to say uh Mumsy got me the Master System, but that's totally cool. So I'm using your old Master System. Yeah, yeah. California Games to me is one of the standout games on there. Um I think it looks great, it's a great pushing system. Obviously, on the 16-bit consoles, it looks a lot better, but California Games to me partly nostalgia, although I don't know how I have nostalgia for a machine I played a week ago, but partly nostalgia for um the California games on the master system. It just fits right to me. How are you finding California games on the beautiful 16-bit system over there?

SPEAKER_04 3:21

Uh yeah, I'm loving it. Graphics are really good. Um definitely the step up from 8-bit, no offense. Although it plays really well on the mass system, it's very good version on there, I think, for the 8-bit systems. Um, I've always been a bit more of a fan of the Mars system with a few more colours than the NES or Nintendo Entertainment System, as some call it. Um, but yeah, really loving it. Um really love the surfing. That's the one for me. Um took me a while to master. Yeah, it took me a while to get once I worked out how to do the surfing, absolutely love the surfing. Some of the other ones I find pretty the skateboard on a half pipe. Oh, I struggle with that. You have to sort of almost sort of pump your way in. You steady retro show. Yeah, you have to pump your way in to get the height and to get the angle to get the tricks.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

Um but should just put to a picture of me sweating profusely. Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_04 4:24

Um is quite good though. I quite like that. That's always a bit called.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

I didn't know what I didn't say the name because I was a bit nervous. That was I just called it that.

SPEAKER_04 4:34

Yeah, hacky sack.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

That's my favourite.

SPEAKER_04 4:36

That's good because if you get the timing right, and once you learn that you get the perfect timing, that's that's good fun. Do your little spins and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 4:43

Yeah, that's to me, that's the best. That's my favourite.

SPEAKER_04 4:46

Yeah, but yeah, um, yeah, really enjoying it. I think it's brilliant. And you can also think of it as having almost sort of five or six games in one, which is really good. Um good to play with friends and try and master each discipline.

SPEAKER_02 4:58

One thing that I've always took away from it is that the I don't know why, because they're not directly related, but I always used to get paperboy vibes from the bike sections.

SPEAKER_04 5:08

Yeah, definitely. They are tricky though, as well, aren't they? The BMX. That is tricky, but I can see where you come from with Paperboy. Yeah, very, very similar. Or even not a something.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

But when you finish your paperboy delivery, you had to successfully navigate crossing the road, and then you entered like a building site or BMX skate park. God knows, right? Um, but that always made me feel very similar vibes to the BMX in the bike sections.

SPEAKER_04 5:35

It's almost like paperboy cross excite bike.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

Yeah, if you want to talk in the breeding methodology, yeah. What a fine specimen.

SPEAKER_04 5:48

But what else have you been playing at George?

Super Smash TV And Co‑Op Chaos

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Uh Super Smash TV on the SNES. Um I gave it all I gave it all tears on the way in because I didn't have a 16-bit Sega, but got a 16-bit Nintendo, and may I say, Super Smash TV specifically looks great on there. Colours, um the enemies, the wet the layout. I just think it it really pops on that system and I think it looks great. Uh I can't speak highly enough of it. I've always enjoyed the game to get the super version on the Super Nintendo is a nice perk, I think. It's a it's it's nice. Obviously, if you own it on another system, say you're playing on home computer amiga or something like that, do you need it? Not really, but if you're a console-only player and this is your first time to get on a bit of Smash TV, I would recommend it.

SPEAKER_04 6:40

So that's that sort of um isometric sort of shooter, is it room shooter where you clear rooms?

SPEAKER_02 6:45

It's a room shooter, it's top down.

SPEAKER_04 6:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

Maybe has it got has it got a tilt of isometric? It's hard to say really. Um possibly a five percent tilt on it, but yeah, you come in, you fight it out. I mean it's it's proper of the United's era, isn't it? I always sorry, I didn't always used to think, I always think it's a bit it's got like running mal elements to it, which is what appealed to me.

SPEAKER_04 7:09

That's very true, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

Yeah, I'm playing running man. I'm a proper grown-up.

SPEAKER_04 7:14

Yeah, no, that's yeah, that's that's a good comparison.

SPEAKER_02 7:17

And of course, if you play for the prizes, you need to get through to the end to I do believe just live. So yeah, I I I really like Super Smash TV. It's waves, uh, it it's it's interesting. Obviously, you get different weapons and stuff. I just think that it's it's just a really nice game for this era, a little bit of co-op play, it's fun, it's throwaway, but there's also an element of sort of competitiveness there where you're trying to get as far as you can. Um sorely recommend everyone give it a go.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

Nice, sounds good. Yeah, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

What about you? What else have you been playing?

SPEAKER_04 7:52

Um my old favourite released last year, '91, Streets of Rage. Um can't get enough of that. Love the soundtrack, love playing two player with my mate. Brilliant. That's um yeah, that's never out of the Mega Drive, I don't think. That's such a good game. Um, put so many hours into that now, but it's uh yeah, it's it's just that that's just that setting, that movie vibe, the story, you know, soundtrack, just so addictive that game, and never get bored of it. Normally you you play a lot of these beat'em ups, you play one one play for it, and you're sort of done and dusted, but this you can just keep playing, you know, it's really good. Um, but yeah, that's that's great to play with friends. Also, Sonic. I'm trying to complete Sonic last year's banger from Sega. I just can't can't get to the end.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

It's just are you are you excited about the rumoured sequel they've got they've got coming down the pipe?

SPEAKER_04 8:49

Yeah, I am because I've heard there's gonna be a new little action you can do in that. Yeah, you can sit and spin. And I don't mean George sit and spin. No, I mean you can actually crouch down and spin for a lot of boost, which will be if they do that, it's gonna be top draw.

Mega Drive Classics: Streets Of Rage And Sonic

SPEAKER_02 9:09

I'm confused what a George sit and spin looks like, but uh I'm sure people could use their imagination. Um before we launch into the news, I just want to say that obviously I'm completely and deeply wrapped in the I don't imagine in the future I'm gonna be a heavy sim guy. I don't imagine I'm gonna be playing lots of Sims, but right now I've uh I've been playing a lot of Microsoft MicroPros F-19 Cell Fighter, can't get enough of that. Super realistic, great graphics, probably the most realistic graphics I have ever seen. 3D as well, looks so incredible.

SPEAKER_04 9:43

That's one thing to bigger boys game.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

The home computers have got the bigger boys games, the home computers have got these games that are 3D, rendered, all that sort of good stuff. I'm also playing. Obviously, we're all very excited about how well how well um Big Nights Red 5, Nigel Mansell's doing in the F1 this year, uh, and we're all very excited to see him next month in Silverstone. But um, you know, I'm I'm very much enjoying Microsoft's F Microprose's F1 Grand Prix, like Jeff Crammond. I can't speak. Admittedly, I'm playing it on Sorry ST, so you could argue that that you know the lesser machine.

SPEAKER_04 10:20

Um still looks good though. I mean, I play out an Amiga, me and my friend D2 player, and then you take in turns and it drives the car for you for a certain amount of time.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

That's one element I love of it.

SPEAKER_04 10:31

Oh, so good. You know, it it really makes you feel like you're you're an F1 driver.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

I don't I don't I don't think split screen, if they could have pulled it off, I don't know the reason for not implementing it, but I don't think I'd have liked it as much.

SPEAKER_04 10:44

No, and there'd have been a lot going on, you know, it was a lot going on on there. So I think that the way they do that is good because you don't feel like you've lost out for the computer driving on your body.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

In the time when you're not driving, you're literally egging your mate on.

SPEAKER_05 10:58

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Because we play as teammates, so I'm like, oh come on, mate, do it. And then you know, he overtakes the AI version of you, and you're like, uh, alright, mate, simmer down.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

Yeah. Yeah, cheat.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

But you know, you're sat rooting for them because that's your only medium of escape at that point. So then obviously when it switches they're rooting for you, you know, they're keeping Riot on the track and you know, trying to offer suggestions to get better lines and things, so you're kind of helping each other. It's a more collaborative way of playing than competitive, which I'll always be a fan of.

SPEAKER_04 11:30

Yeah, especially when you're on the same team and your teammates are so good and you know, judge your pit stops and bits really well.

Sim Fever: F‑19 And F1 Grand Prix

SPEAKER_02 11:37

Well we've got I've got a Marshall Cavendish part work called Quest uh that me and Mumsey collect in the corner of the room. Um my friend Terry Blow comes around and we play this uh F1 Grand Prix, and um we came up with a team, so we made we we came up with a team, and he's a bit of a uh motoring nerd, and he said, Oh, why don't we why don't we launch his Bucati? Uh they're they're like an old team, they could make a comeback. I was like, Oh wow, Terry, that's great. But he said, Oh, but we need a sponsor. And he spann around in his chair and he laid eyes on my mark Marshall Cavendish Parkwork quest and he went, What about Bugatti Quest? And I've never forgotten that name. I was like, mate, that's amazing. Oh mate, if someone made me a t-shirt of Bugatti Quest and it was like 1992 F1 teamware, dude, I think I'll probably be one of the happiest men on earth.

SPEAKER_04 12:34

You'd have someone come up to you and say, What's Bugatti Quest? Right, let me run this past you. Have you ever had Natarius?

SPEAKER_02 12:41

Or an Amiga? Or John Straws here.

unknown 12:45

Please.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

Maybe a PC 486-286, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_04 12:49

If they turn around and walk away, then obviously you're not that interested. No, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

So me and Terry have been doing a lot of that, and in between as a break, um, I've got this kind of yellow and green plastic ball with holes in it. Now, what you do is you fill a water balloon and you put it in the middle and you set this timer on the top. When the timer runs out, it fires a pin into the balloon and you get wet, right?

SPEAKER_04 13:12

No way.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

Serious. Can't remember what it was called, some like splash attack or something like that. So you put the water balloon in, and obviously you're on your dry clothes as well, and moms is like, don't mess about too much out there, and you're like, oh.

SPEAKER_04 13:23

And you've got to be careful your scare electrics as well, because you don't want to get out wet. Especially with your RS500 Cosworth.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

If there's a chance of anyone getting wet, it doesn't happen in the bedroom. It happens outside.

SPEAKER_04 13:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

Mumsy gonna let you play it indoors in. Definitely don't want those squirting wet action inside. All that has to go out happening on the backgrass. So you throw this between you and you can hear it sort of ticking down, and you're like, oh no, I'll throw it. And he's like, No, I'm gonna hang on to it for a bit.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Now you have it. He's like, oh, I'm gonna do that as well.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

Take a time bomb. Literally, and then boom, it goes off, and you get covered in all this water. Um yeah, it's yeah, I don't know what else you've been playing doing outside of video games, but mainly me and Terry in the in in the in the months of June have just been finding the time to F1 Grand Prix and then go outside and throw throw a water balloon in a timed cage at each other.

SPEAKER_04 14:27

Well, in between sort of rounds of Kirby's outside, I've been saying mostly on the scalectrix, because as I said, we've got the uh RS500 Sierra uh touring car pack, which is uh you've got your Lambert uh Lamberts, is it Lambert's? I can't remember the name of the beer now. La Bats. La Bats, that's it. La Bats beer sponsored car on there. They are hard to control on the bends, especially on the figure eight track. But if you can if you can nurse around the corners, that's great fun. Absolutely loving that with my mates playing on the old scalectric, see who's the see who's the champ is. But like I say, Mumsy wants us to go outside quite a lot, so it's normally rains the Kirby's out on the street, but raining Kirby champ at the moment. Four and out, so awesome.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Shall we hit the news?

SPEAKER_04 15:14

Yes, we've scoured the very darkest regions of the game and magazines to bring you this week's news first up. Magi drive or a legal drive. What's all this? Mmm. Well, yeah, this is getting tasty, this. You mustn't tell anyone about the latest rumour that there's stirrings of a new piece of hardware for you mega drive owners. Now, whether this hardware is technically legal to use is another thing. Mm-mm. As the title would suggest, it's called the MagidDrive. And to cut a long story short, it basically allows you to save your software onto floppy drive and then reboot. What's the reasons for this? I hear you ask. Well, as far as we can work out here at the UCP flashback towers, it's simple. Piracy. And seeing how hurtful piracy on floppy discs are on the Amiga, we can only see this as a bad thing. Don't be tempted, gamers. If we want the quality of our cartridges to increase, then don't encourage this at all. Remember. Just say no.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

You say now this is interesting because this magic drive plugs in the top of the mega drive where the cartridge would go, right? And then you put the cartridge in the magic drive and you stick a slew of three and a half floppies in this thing, because it might take more than one three and a half floppy.

SPEAKER_04 16:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

So I don't quite know how it kind of bridges between the games and where the bespoke loader software goes, insert this to. I don't quite know how that works. I imagine that being a bit messy, if I'm honest with you.

SPEAKER_04 16:45

Yeah, yeah, especially when it's just as one ROM on the cartridge. And but I, you know, there was rumors there was a piracy person on the Amiga had made a ROM to run Mega Drive games on the Amiga. So whether this was part of that, I do not know whether you'd be able to, but like you say, you'd only get halfway through Sonic Level 2 and you have to put another disc in.

SPEAKER_02 17:10

Yeah, that don't feel right to me. Maybe you have to put the discs in as it puts the ROM into the Mega Drive or onto the Magidrive flash memory ROM. Maybe you have to oh no, now this two, so it stops, then continues to write this two to the ROM, and then when the ROM is loaded, it will then push into the Mega Drive itself like a normal one.

SPEAKER_04 17:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

I'm imagining that's how it works, right? And that's okay. So you But what's wrong, RGT, with just making copies of the games you already own?

SPEAKER_04 17:44

Boy, would you want to make copies of your games?

SPEAKER_02 17:46

What if one got damaged? What if let's say Mumsey invited cousin Ian round and he was in one of his more destructive temperaments?

SPEAKER_04 17:53

Oh god, he does lose it, doesn't he?

Playground Toys And Scalextric

SPEAKER_02 17:55

And you know, Auntie saying, Oh, he's okay, just give him space. But in his last sort of threshold, these legs just gone out and he didn't get the squash he wanted, so his legs just lashed out blindly, and he's literally kicked the corner of your game stack down, and your whole game library's collapsed like an avalanche. Even that crappy Lego model that you made last week that you thought looked really good, but I hate to tell you, it looks terrible. Collapsed down on the floor, uh and Sonic 2's split asunder, like the Ten Commandments, and you're thinking to yourself, damn it. I wish I'd made a copy of that with a magic drive.

SPEAKER_04 18:35

That's true, but the problem is with copies, especially when it comes to floppy discs, people will abuse it, wouldn't they? If you just say, just make copies of your own games, people aren't going to, are they? Before you know it, they're swapping copies of Sonic on the Amiga and discs in the playground. You know.

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SPEAKER_02 19:29

Yeah, I think we need to keep our eyes on this to see how it goes.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

I can't, I mean Sega are gonna shut this down, surely, aren't they?

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Sega I've said no, and we've we've reached out to Magic Drive by the medium of facts, uh, but we've heard nothing back, so we take that as a no comment at the moment. So it possibly does hint at shades of uh darker connotations, I would say. Um next bit of news, RGT, seeing as I'm the SNES king round here, SNES Dr. Franken coming in November 1992. Better than Mumsey anyway. We have to hold our hands up and say a big well done to the guys over at Elite. Not only did they develop the awesome Dr. Franken on Game Boy, uh, which if you don't know is one of RGT's favourites of all time. First time he's mentioned it, but definitely in his top ten games of all time, but they could have copied the game straight over to the Super Nintendo, but they haven't. Now it's an even bigger scenario. Frankie's still searching for the love of his life, Bitsy, but this time, due to the failings of the Transylvanian Postal Service, she's been scattered to the four corners of the earth. So, along with the colours and awesome graphical power of the Super Nintendo, we're sure this is gonna be nothing short of a hit. Now, obviously, you compile the news this week, and you're uh you're a self-confessed Dr. Franking Nut.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

Very underrated game on the Game Boy, brilliant little platformer, really good.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

So you're gonna get this in November because what if like Sonic 2 hits at that time?

News: MagiDrive And Piracy Fears

SPEAKER_04 21:06

Well I've took on an extra paper hand, so um I'm trying to save, I'm trying to save yeah, for double games at the moment, especially with C.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

What's what I'm struggling with with this flashback image is you grown ass man on a kid's BMX burner outside the paper shop with all the other kids.

SPEAKER_04 21:27

I actually had a rally striker, but there we go.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

On your rally striker, full grown man, so this bike looks like something looks like one of those little BMX trick bikes you could get in the later 90s.

SPEAKER_04 21:36

Yeah, I have outgrown, I will admit.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

You've got this big orange back on, backpack on, and load like 12-year-olds round looking at you going like, all right, mister. You're smoking pack of lamberts.

SPEAKER_04 21:54

Just a little puff.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

Um yeah, anyway. Why would you bring him in here? This is the flashback show. Yes, sorry.

SPEAKER_04 22:07

Yeah, so anyway, um I've seen screenshots of this um of their early development of this. It looks really good. I mean, especially with the Super Game Boy player. I mean, most people would have thought you could just plug that in and play your your your Game Boy games on there, but they've no, they've completely rebuilt the game up, um, similar levels, but it's just the graphics look so good. I think there's added bits in as well, sounds really good. We all know what the Super Nintendo. I mean, that's a powerhouse, isn't it, really, when it comes to these platformers and that. So really looking forward to if you haven't played Dr. Franken on your Game Boy, definitely recommend it. And uh, yeah, definitely check out your your local news agents for game and magazines and check these screenshots out because this this game looks really good. If have you played any of the you played Dr. Franken on Game Boy, George?

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Played it on Game Boy, but this has completely blindsided me. I didn't know anything about this. Um so I'm very interested to I'm very interested to see some footage of it. Now I do believe I might have been flicking through a copy of Total. It's a Super Nintendo magazine, and I I think I saw some copy, some just some small print images of this, uh, and I was pretty impressed. I have to say, like you say, they've taken a Game Boy game and they've really given it that 16-bit magic, so yeah, I'm quite excited.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, watch your space on that, and we'll see. We'll see when it comes out if us, you know, if all the hope is worth it. But I think it will be. Elite are pretty good at this sort of thing, and uh yeah, I don't think they'll they'll put a misstep here. But next up we have stand and delivered. If your games room is anything like ours here at the UCP, then this next product is going to be right up your street. With the ever-growing list of Mega Drive accessories, we have this very sleek-looking Mega Drive accessory stand made from classy tubular steel. It has plenty of room for not only your beloved Mega Drive, but also your controllers, arcade, stick, and games. This is a very sturdy unit that oozes quality and also includes these nifty little hooks to either keep those troublesome cables out of the way from either your mum tripping over them and bringing in your tea or your cat getting tangled up in a mad fit moment. It's that sturdy, it's that sturdy you could even use it as a stall. This brilliant accessory called the Mega Stand is available from KMA Engineering and Retail for$59.95, and we think it's worth every penny. Well, what do you think of this then, George? I think I need this in my life, especially in my bedroom. That's gonna be ideal.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Um I was just trying to get the inside track on KMA Engineering just to see if they had done any of the products, couldn't find any. Um, so the mega stand is absolutely the sort of thing that we're crying out for.

SPEAKER_04 24:54

Um I just had my mega drive on the floor with the leads going across, and you meant Mamsie's brought my um my Vimto in and kicked the leads out. You know, you're now on the last level of Sonic, and I've got to start all over again.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

My I don't have mine on the floor. I've always been a bit more respectful, but there's something uncool about it sitting on top of heirloom that's sort of come down in your family for the last two or three generations. You know, I look at although saying that my bedroom looks pretty fire, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_04 25:22

But you know Yeah, I was gonna say I don't know if you need one to be honest.

News: Dr. Franken On SNES

SPEAKER_02 25:26

No, I I don't know if I do. Um, but let's imagine I've just stuck a poster on my wall out of total non-stop gaming and I'm sat in front of that. Um and I would love, I dream of a stand where it's like a hi-fi solution area where it's this kind of angular thing that suits the angle of the mega drive so I can have this sort of bespoke gaming uh area. So look at my controllers, cable management, the whole thing. Uh I'm very excited for this, and I think it you know, I can see this taking off. I can see this being in every kid's bedroom. I think in like 40-50 years' time, KMA engineering are gonna be a big name. Game keeps growing the way we do, so for every Mega Drive and Super Nintendo that gets sold, you're selling a KMA engineering magic mega stand. I mean, what's to stop them being the biggest company in the world in the next 10 years?

SPEAKER_04 26:20

Well, exactly. I mean, especially with all these rumours of this virtual reality they're talking about. Well, if you get that fired up and you add a virtual reality KMA accessory stand as well, had one for your Super Nintendo, one for your Mega Drive, one for your virtual reality, I mean, that is gonna be awesome. Your bedroom's gonna be like an arcade.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Is it is the mega stand adaptable? You know, let's say if Sega, you know, bring over the the Mega the C D add-on to the UK and then working on that rumoured uh Neptune thing, which you know could be called something else, possibly 32X, we don't know. That's gonna massively change the dimensions of the magic of the Mega Drive. Is it gonna fit in the Mega Stand?

SPEAKER_04 27:03

People want to call it the magic stand, but yeah, well I think the the top of it looks pretty good and it's quite wide wider than the actual mega drive itself. So I think with you know, especially if you're a a you know mega drive owner with the the Mark I CD add-on, I think there's plenty of room on there for it. Um, especially as they've added in, you know, like room for your arcade stick and stuff. I mean, that is amazing, you know. And not everyone has an arcade stick. I'm still saving for mine, but I'd love one.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

Let's say that I can't afford the$59.95 for the the mega stand from KA Engineering. What's to stop me going out and getting a three-tiered vegetable shelf rack from um Argos, spraying it black in my back garden, and using that in my room?

SPEAKER_04 27:46

You sound like you've already done that.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

It looks very similar to the game that yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

Your mum just comes back, your mum comes back and finds the vegetables just piled on the floor. Where's the veggie rack gone? No, it's a mega stand there, mum.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Well, come at me. If anyone wants one of my mega stands, you know where I'm at.

SPEAKER_04 28:06

Yeah. That's your that's JN Designs.

News: Mega Stand Hardware Hype

SPEAKER_02 28:11

You'll love it. Um in all seriousness, no, check out the mega stand. No doubt it's only available through mail order sign-off in the back of some obscure gaming magazine. And being tuberless steel, expect about£30 PP, but game engineering sound like a heavy-duty engineering company whose dad's sort of seen his son on the mega drive and made this sort of pre-dreadnought era steel. You see, when my dad makes things out of metal, they weigh uh probably 40 times more than they need to.

SPEAKER_04 28:44

Yeah, you but you order a KM KMA designs um mega stand, they bring it on an Arctic and you can only have it downstairs because upstairs that's gonna restrict the use of the choice.

SPEAKER_02 28:54

But Mumsy and Dadsy have got a bloody aquaprop in the middle of the lounge, like it's a bloody stripper pole for Mumsy.

SPEAKER_04 29:03

Yeah, I soon are gonna be there until we get the new RSJ in, son.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Mumsy's like, I don't know, I like it. Daddy's like, Well, Daddy, I'm I'm getting to quite like it too.

SPEAKER_04 29:14

Well, anyway, what's next?

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Next in the news, a new lease of life. If buying batteries for your handheld of choice has started to destroy your paper round money, and we know RGT's verging on a lawsuit by entertaining the idea of a paper round, or Mumsy is sick is sick of paying for another pack of Everdies, but they're awful, from woolies, then this is a perfect product for all you gamers on the go, with rechargeables being an expensive option. This rejuvenator, the four way suspension, is a perfect way of getting more life out of those quickly draining money pits. It will recharge up to five of your standards. We shouldn't be talking about this on the show, RGT. It sounds dangerous. Take five of your standard disposable batteries at once, and you can recharge them up to twenty. Times. As long as the batteries are under one year old, this sounds like an amazing exploit a solution to the expensive side of portable gaming. It's a thumbs up from us. It's a thumbs up from RGT by bearing on the side of the caution and saying, Be careful. Because how do you know how old the batteries were that you put into Walkman six months ago? Were they already a year old or?

SPEAKER_04 30:25

Well, I was just thinking, I mean, with my game gear, you know, you're going through six batteries at a time that lasts about an hour and a half. Well, when I'm sitting in the back of the cortina, when we're going to chroma, it's you know, you need nearly all- You're being driven on a family holiday even in 1992. Oh, yes, how I rolled. And this this is something I'll probably keep going until I'm an adult.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

So um I damp the middle-aged man.

SPEAKER_04 30:51

Yeah. Um, but yeah, I just think it's a really cost-effective way of s getting some more life out of those batteries. But like you say, what would happen if the battery is over a year old and you try and charge it for the 50th time? Do you get a small explosion house far and then you're homeless?

SPEAKER_02 31:07

I think it's just I just think that initially this is gonna feel like a great bit of kit. And I do, on the principle of it, think it sounds like a great idea, but I imagine within six months it's just gonna have like this well of that brown leaked oozed liquid, and it's probably gonna end up rotting out off the back of that acidic battery juice that leaks.

SPEAKER_04 31:31

Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna have to be quite organised and modern.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Yeah, and I wouldn't recommend Everredis. They're a great affordable battery, but maybe one of the reasons why you're going through batteries so much in your game gear is you're buying the cheaper battery. Now, an OMS is like, listen, there are consumable items, we might as well buy the cheapest one. You need to be getting the Jura cells to maximise your time, and then this rejuvenator might make sense. If you're buying EverReddies, which are I I I think the Common Garden house flea has more electrical energy than an Ever Ready double-A battery.

SPEAKER_04 32:17

I've been disappointed with them. I literally got halfway through the first level of Sonic and it and it died.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

You look at them in their box, that blue rat battery, and it's almost saying, I'm seconds away from leaking, and you've not even installed me in your system. I mean you put one of those in a remote and it's it's it's it's death.

SPEAKER_04 32:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

Your dad's got the back of the remote off and he's spinning the he's spinning the batteries and smacking the remote off the table within an hour of the new ones going in.

SPEAKER_04 32:51

Yeah, it's very true. And then because what happens when the batteries runs out, I have to keep getting up and turning the telly over. So What a world.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

Child slave labour.

SPEAKER_04 33:01

Yeah, yeah, it is. You know, you're trying to do your latest Lego build and just put just put the ITV on, what is it?

News: Battery Rejuvenator Debate

SPEAKER_02 33:07

So what we're saying, keep your eyes peeled for the rejuvenator, or are we saying a UCP must buy?

SPEAKER_04 33:11

I think it's I think it's a great idea. I think if you if if you're organised with your batteries and you know, and like you say, you've got decent batteries to start with, and might be worth purchasing some Jura cells and then using MS.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

It's an investment then, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 33:24

Yeah, and then and then see how it go. But yeah, if anyone does have one, let us know how you get on with it, because uh we're very tempted. But right, we'll move on to the next part of the news, which is Master System Smash coming to the game gear. Outrun Europa was such a success on the Sega Master System that US Gold has managed to squeeze the title onto Sega's beloved handheld. If you haven't played Outrun Europa, it has been a rather silly story, but it's definitely worth a play. You're basically an international spy who's had his car stolen with some very important documents on the parcel shelf. So off you go to try and get them back, whilst trying to avoid attacks from the thieves who you stole your car from and your own side who are pretty upset with you for being so stupid in the first place. You'll blast your way through Europe, taking in such views as the White Cliffs of Dover and the Eiffel Tower, and either a stolen car on a motorcycle or even a jet ski. This is definitely one to look out for when it releases, especially if you're a boy racer who fancies a go at being James Bond. Coming soon from US gold.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

Now this So they're handling the release they're handling the release of this bad boy. Yeah. US and it's gold.

SPEAKER_04 34:45

Gold standard.

SPEAKER_02 34:46

You're absolutely right. United States of America, wrapped in gold. There is no greater effigy of quality. Yep. Um so if you're gonna call your software house something, US gold is a banging name. Out on Europa. Yep. Nice bit of fun on the master system.

SPEAKER_04 35:03

Umice twist on OutRun as well. It's almost sort of OutRun meets Spy Hunter as that sort of you know that's the first one.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

I just yeah, as you were reading the blurb, I never realised this game had a blurb, and that's the blurb, and I I love it. Uh it's it's nice, it's obviously an easy port to get your Master System games onto the Game Gear. Obviously, they've also got the Game Gear adapter um sitting in the wings, and you've got to wonder, is it just a form factor thing here to make the cartridge small enough to go on the go? Because you know, the Master System converter does affect the portability of the Game Gear quite a lot. I play mine as well with the screen magnifier. It ends up being quite a chunky bad boy, if I'm honest with you. Quite a girthy.

SPEAKER_04 35:54

You need a rucksack just to carry it all in.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:57

By the time you've got your AC adapter and and your light, I mean.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Don't forget your rechargeable lithium battery belt pack.

SPEAKER_04 36:04

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot going on there. You're looking three, four kilos we're under that. You can you're gonna have some guns by the time you're finished trying to outrun your ropa on your mass system component.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Well, you're gonna need the aforementioned megastan just to rest it on so you don't get your wrists snapped.

SPEAKER_04 36:19

Plus, if you've got your TV adapter, I mean you've got a bag full of Game Gear stuff there.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

So much Game Gear stuff you don't know what to do with. So is it the portability factor? Because we are gonna are we gonna lose a little bit of graphical quality to get it on the Game Gear cart? What's your thoughts? You're the red regular Sega Guru. What's going on here?

SPEAKER_04 36:40

Yeah, I think we will we'll uh obviously lose a bit because I mean it's very similar power to the master system. Obviously, with your smaller screen and sprites and whatnot, they scale down. Um, from what I've seen of the early screenshots, um looks really good. Um, I don't think you're missing too much from what the Master System version has. Plus, like you say, it's on the go, isn't it? You know, and you've always been a provider of gaming on the go.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

If I'm if I'm hyped up, I've done my I don't I'm not as lucky as you, I don't work by paper round a nice clean child labour job. I work on a chicken farm. Uh I'm wondering, do I need to do some extra shifts at the chicken farm to get this on game gear, or is the master system adapter and the master system game good enough?

SPEAKER_04 37:25

Hmm, yeah, that's a tricky one.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

I think the only way we we'll find out is when it's released and uh um see other side-by-side comparison and side-by-side comparisons and send them out to people that are interested on VHS and we could do like we could do we could even count the frames. We could call ourselves like Analogue Foundry or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 37:48

Oh, that's a good name.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

Yeah, yeah, because and we and we and and we and and and and and and and it's not in ninety two, I'm twelve, and this is how old it talks. Ananan.

SPEAKER_04 37:59

Your brain's going quicker than your mouth. You're already four sentences ahead by the time you're trying to get everything out.

SPEAKER_02 38:05

And then maybe if the world catches up with us and we can all share our ideas somewhere just in one place, then we could maybe we could take off.

SPEAKER_04 38:15

Yeah, that'd be brilliant. Analogue foundry. Bear that in mind.

SPEAKER_02 38:19

Can't see it. I can't, I can't I can't see it. I can't see it to be honest.

SPEAKER_04 38:23

Don't think anyone would steal it or use it for anything, so no, no, I think we're good. But no, I think it's um it's gonna be a brilliant little racing title for the game gear. Um I love my racing game, so very looking forward to this. I've always been a fan of 8 run. So, you know, if someone says to you in the playground, well, you're playing 8 run, you can know. Playing 8 run, you bring it.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

In the bowl into the show, I mentioned obviously Jeff Gramman's Marco Pros Grand Prix, and that's obviously a fully 3D realised this hype defamation, you go up and down. Into Largos is a great example of Monaco, you go up the hill, the circuit happens at the top, then you come down, it links up. You know, when I show my dad these games, he looks at F1 Grand Prix and he's like, Wow, that's impressive. He looks at games like Outrun, where it's basically the sprite stuck on a rotation at the front of the screen, and then the road kind of rolls beneath you with these corners that come out of nowhere, all of a sudden the static buildings on the side of the track, they're not squares or triangles or anything like they are in F1. Um they're sprite-realised, but they're clumsy. You're meant to be heading towards the town, but you never get there, it just stays as a silhouette on the horizon. Has my dad got a point? You say you're an F1, you say you're a racing game fan. Which camp do you sit in, and which camp do you see becoming the future and one becoming like a dinosaur?

SPEAKER_04 39:48

Well, I think one na no no uh uh and and and and and and no, I think I think for your for your things like Outrun, that's your classic arcades, they're built for arcades, they're built to chomp coins, that's what they're for. They're good fun in short bursts, but I think like you say, uh Jeff Cramman's F1 is is a sim. It's is as real as you can get to F1 racing. You know, everything is modelled in you know, polygons, and you know, although it is very square and triangular, it's more realistic than cartoon sprites and cartoon versions of cars. Um equally as fun in each, but depends what floats your boat. If you if you want that realism and sim like, then that's gotta be you've got to get yourself an amiga on Atari ST and play Jeff Graham's F1 if you want to, you know, just a blast in a Ferrari and blast down a row, then you know that's outrun for you, but depends what floats your boat. I enjoy both. Um, but yeah, I do I do love the sim side of things, which I can see becoming very popular, I think.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 40:57

Only time will tell.

Sprite Racers Vs 3D Sims

SPEAKER_04 40:59

Yes, but yeah, so it'll be interesting to see when US Gold released that what the version's like and how it compares to the the master system version. And they've obviously released it because of the popularity of the master system version, but we'll yeah, we'll see. Like you say, time will tell, see what the release is like. So well it's time for a peek in what we call Stingray's boot. Stingray. Does he not come around your way?

SPEAKER_03 41:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

Oh he looks like he looks like Pat Sharp, but he's got he's got like real tight denims on.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

No, he doesn't.

SPEAKER_04 41:35

Don't he? He does to me.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

Get him here and we'll have a look at what he looks like.

SPEAKER_04 41:39

He's got a handlebar moustache and always says a lamb and butler. He did have silk cut, but I weren't mad enough for him. I'm so confused.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

Let's get him here and we'll have a look at him.

SPEAKER_04 41:50

Yeah, anyway, time for a peek at what we call Stingray's boo. What's nestled between some counterfeit nappies and a dodgy copy of Battle for Endor. These are the new release highlights for the 29th of July to the 27th of September 92. Listeners, these are out on either cartridge, floppy disc or even CD, or will be by the time this podcast is in your cassette player. But they might be region dependent. First up.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

He's popped out. Does this mean someone's for the retro show, someone's gonna have to pay Phil to edit in the Stingray car sound, or are you gonna charge for that, Phil?

SPEAKER_04 42:31

Phil, are you gonna charge for the car sound? Stingray. Stingray! Yeah, he's that. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, he's gonna charge.£4.50 and a whisper gold.

SPEAKER_01 42:49

That's that's a day's wage.

SPEAKER_04 42:52

Oh no. Can you not know he said us to go and rate?

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Not in charge of 90s prices.

SPEAKER_04 42:59

90s prices? That is that is nineties prices, apparently. Jesus for Well, yes, because he said he's got to cut and snip all the all the reels. So it's gonna take him a day to do it. You've got to snip the.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

I hope the audio quality's okay, because you've just sat the boom box down in the corner of the room and recording on that.

SPEAKER_04 43:17

Yeah, yeah, and I've had to record over my top La Pops recording I've done, so I hope it's alright.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Um Which way did you just turn for Phil? Are we turning the same way or not?

SPEAKER_04 43:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

Phil. Would it be a nicer side to edit in a like a random snippet of a yeah. Depends if you've got the time or the patience. I know the feeling. Okay, so how are you are we seeing Ray just as Pat Sharp in this moment?

SPEAKER_04 43:54

Well, I see him as Pat Sharp.

SPEAKER_02 43:55

I don't know how you see him, but um I'll be honest, I see him as Noel Edmonds.

SPEAKER_04 43:59

Um Dad's annoyed because he just handbrake the blue bird in the drive and the gravel's hit the greenhouse, so it's not he put a pain through or no, it's just just you know, it's only pebble dashes that sort of sprayed off. Yeah, just that's alright, Dad. Don't worry.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

Do I get first? I want second dibs, by the way, so you take first dibs.

SPEAKER_04 44:18

Well, what we got here? Oh, first up, 29th of July, echo the dolphin for the Sega Mega Drive. Ooh. Players, echo the bottlenose dolphin as you try and save your fellow marine life and possibly the whole ocean from exploration to aliens and even time travel. Yep, you heard that right. A time travelling dolphin out next month on the Sega Mega Drive. Well, I have heard rumours about this, but a time travelling dolphin, this sounds a bit of a trip.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

This is gonna be a big game.

SPEAKER_04 44:52

I've heard a lot of a lot of good things about it, but I mean I've never really heard any, you know, had anything like this before. Playing as a dolphin, that's that's strange.

Stingray’s Boot: New Releases

SPEAKER_02 45:02

I mean, that's gonna be we'll get ready for this, right? Because this is insane, this next release. Now, breaking the fourth wall, I got this at launch and I played it all on the own for months. I loved it. 27th of August comes out Super Mario Kart and the Super Nintendo. Now, I know what you're thinking, Mario. Kart racing. I think this is gonna be fantastic. Sounds like a flop to me. It's a massive flop. Something you never thought you'd see next is a kart racing game. Now, some young lad who has aspirations bizarrely of being a Formula One driver while playing Jeff Crammer's F1 Grand Prix knows in some way he needs to get his eye in on carts to make him good at so obviously he bought Super Mario Kart. Is this a true story or true story? It's the way you think in the 90s. Various different single player and multiplayer modes. Can you prove or the next Nigel Mansell and become the Super Mario Kart champion? Um, I've heard on the Great Line, because I'm connected, that they've got Rick Mayle in to do some Super Mario ads. Uh, and he actually is going to pretend to be Nigel Mansell to get this. Or is he pretending to be Nigel Mansell to sell Nigel Mansell's racing game? Community corrections, let me know in the school playground.

SPEAKER_04 46:20

You'll have to send uh we'll put the address at the end because you have to send that by post. So and we'll try and get back to you on facts if you have one.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

So uh yeah. It's all done on facts.

SPEAKER_04 46:32

Yeah, um, yeah, it sounds weird to me. Super Mario in a in a cart. Where's this come from?

SPEAKER_02 46:37

I mean You're not the Japanese like they're crazy.

SPEAKER_04 46:40

And the thing is, it sounds a bit desperate and it ain't gonna last. I mean, who's gonna buy this?

SPEAKER_02 46:45

I think in the in the kind of with Sonic just dominating everywhere in Europe at the minute, this just screams desperation. They haven't got another Mario game to push out, so they're gonna squeeze this out. It's a bit of a mode seven tech demo. I don't imagine really anyone's gonna be you know, we talked earlier about Outrun. You know, proper big boy racing games, the arcade racing games that people want to play, they're those into the screen ones. This one looks a little bit like a crossover between Outrun and F1 because they've somehow got the screen there and you you've got the circuit already laid out and you kind of drive round it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 47:22

I mean, maybe the multiplayer mode will be good for a few minutes, but there's no way that's gonna replace Bomberman in your rotation.

SPEAKER_02 47:30

Not a chance.

SPEAKER_04 47:31

To me, reeks of a flop.

SPEAKER_02 47:35

Yeah, well, like I say, I'm probably gonna try and buy up my birth some birthday money. What's next?

SPEAKER_04 47:43

First of September. Now this interests me, this one. Championship manager, Amiga at RAST. Have you ever fancied being a football manager, taking your team to the top of the or conquering Europe? Well, here's your opportunity with Domark's championship manager with all four English divisions, the domestic cups and three European Cups. Now's the chance to become the best team around.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

I'll be honest, mate. I I know you said you're excited for this, but I don't understand this. You know, when you're playing as a striker or defender or whatever in the game, you you you normally play as everybody on the team. What do you do as the manager? Just like waggle a button until he shouts a sideline and then serve like good oranges at half time. I don't understand what's the point of this. Well, I the thing to be a football manager, they're just normally boring guys in track suits who shout a lot.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Yeah, but the thing is with this is it's if if you like the tech side of it, if you like the the you know, the crunching the numbers, like bringing players through. I mean, from what I've seen a screenshot, you have youth teams, you can bring young players through, um, you have to, you know, sort the contracts out. You know, to me, this starting in like what are the graphics like?

SPEAKER_01 48:58

Have they got all the players that you see them when you're talking to them?

SPEAKER_02 49:01

What are the graphics of this game?

SPEAKER_04 49:02

No, it's it's more sort of spreadsheet based. It's still colourful now, not as boring as a spreadsheet, but it's it's you know, it's more No one's gonna buy this. Well, I think it's something different. I think it's gonna be good, you know. Various manager games, you know. Kevin Tom's done a great one on the spectrum, which was really good, but it didn't it lacked the depth because of the power of the spectrum. But I think with with the the pure processing power of the MiG and the Atari ST at the minute, you can get so much more depth in there, you know. I think this game's gonna make them smoke. Wow. So yeah, I think the I you know the depth to start your season, just go through the years, try and work your way up the English divisions. I mean, imagine winning the FA Cup when you start at that in the fourth division.

SPEAKER_01 49:49

But do you see the players scoring the goals? No. Who wants this?

SPEAKER_04 49:56

How dare you? You you have you'll have the match on and that'll flash up when the goals are scored, apparently, and then that'll just tell if you're running.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Hang on a minute. So you're telling me people are gonna go mad for a game that feels like bamboozle on teletext. Now I love a bit of bamboozle, but this is gonna flop. You think it just sounds a bit boring.

SPEAKER_04 50:17

No, but you know, you're you're not really into your football.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

You know, I mean this is better than the floor.

SPEAKER_04 50:21

I love my football. Yeah, but this this is the more in-depth side. If you kick off, you're the player in this, you're the manager, you know, you control. You control what goes on, you control who you play, you control what the player, you know, not so much what the players do, but you you sort your team formations out, try and get your club to rise up the leagues. I'm all about this. Get me a can of tiser, you know, pack it a monster munch, sit me in front of my amiga, and I am I'm there for days.

Echo The Dolphin Reactions

SPEAKER_02 50:49

Not beef. They make your breast smell disgusting, pickled onion. Oh, I was gonna say, that's that's that's good. I like that smell on you, it's fresh. When you come at me with the beef, I'll be honest, it's like you've been eating cat food.

SPEAKER_04 51:01

Yeah, I'll admit that.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

And and when you had them on the bus on the school on the on the bus to school the other morning, I'll be honest with you. It was gross. Well, that's because I added them into my spam sandwich, so uh the combination was it was it was to me it was a meaty treat, but to you To you, it was obviously smelt of uh It it looked more like a sort of thing Dapper throw in the river and call it ground bait.

SPEAKER_04 51:26

Yeah, it was similar.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Um but to me I like bet it smelt worse than ground bait.

SPEAKER_04 51:32

I like the the the jellied meat with the crunch of the crisp, so to me as a treat, but to you obviously as it's cat food, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

As an outsider looking in, it was it was pretty grim.

SPEAKER_04 51:46

Yeah, but then I rinsed my ma from a cat reson and you said it was okay, so no, I didn't say it was okay, I said it was better. Oh, okay, yes, because I still had a bit of spam in between my front teeth.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

Yeah, great until fourth pra until fourth lesson as well.

SPEAKER_04 52:01

Yeah, but gave me something to nibble on later on. Um yeah, back to championship manager. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this. I know it's not your cup of tea, but for me, I'm yeah, I'm all over this. I can't wait to play it. And I'm hoping if it does well, then maybe they'll do sequels, you don't know, but we'll see. I think you think it's gonna be a bit of a bit of a flock, don't you?

SPEAKER_02 52:20

I just don't think that many people are gonna want to play it. It sounds a bit boring. You there's no graphics of the players, you never see anyone score any goal, you never serve one half-time orange. Um, like to me, it doesn't sound very realistic at all.

SPEAKER_04 52:34

No, or maybe, you know, when the tech gets better and we maybe get a new Amiga or new Atari, there's rumours of a 1200 Amiga and a Falcon Atari. I mean, maybe the power then you could have the graphics and the tech behind it, but I just think at the moment it's one or the other because there's so in-depth how much code is in that game with how deep it goes. I think it's hard to run the graphics as well at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

So then they serve you a spectrum game and hope that they can get by.

SPEAKER_04 53:04

It's not a spectrum game. Anyway, I'm not talking to you about this anymore. I just this is actually gonna be my uh mummy mummy.

Super Mario Kart Skepticism

SPEAKER_02 53:10

Okay, well I I'm going with this with the second flop of the month Mario Kart. I'm just intrigued to see how that'll play out, and obviously, you know I'm an aspiring F1 driver, so Well, that's what you mean.

SPEAKER_04 53:20

You might actually win the championship in your first go, and someone might hear about this before you know it. Mansell's on your doorstep. Do you want to come and join me?

SPEAKER_02 53:27

You know, Frank Williams just rolled up the drive. He's probably got Patrick Head to knock on the door. We've come out, we've heard the rumours. Okay, but yeah, I didn't expect you guys to turn up. So no no no, we can't let someone like you just slip by. So we want to sign you up. You're gonna be Nigel's teammate next week. In my head, that's how this is playing out.

SPEAKER_04 53:48

No, they just might say, look, we heard a rumour, you've done a 51 second on Rainbow Road. We need you, son. I don't think that's ever been happening for me.

SPEAKER_02 53:59

I do a podcast on an audio tape because I'm not very good at video games. And no one's gonna find this tape. Uh Lost Media, baby.

SPEAKER_04 54:10

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 54:11

Um what before Ray leaves, we need to pick a VHS. Thought I'd throw it out there, now you're gonna struggle.

SPEAKER_04 54:19

Well. Let me think about it.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

So does that mean the the the danger of this flashback show is the danger it could cause to the lore that's yet to happen in a podcast that me and cousin Tom start recording in 30 years' time. More.

SPEAKER_04 54:37

You and your cousin Tom are gonna start a what? A podcast.

SPEAKER_02 54:40

I know he only looks like a little kid to you, but he's got some good ideas.

SPEAKER_04 54:43

Has he? He's got a massive quiv.

SPEAKER_02 54:46

No, he's not. He's only young, he doesn't know a lot about gaming.

SPEAKER_04 54:50

Uh yeah, I know, but that's obviously needs fillin'.

SPEAKER_02 54:53

He's got potential.

SPEAKER_04 54:56

He's fillin' with game and knowledge. Um, right, VHS, I am gonna go for Willow. Ooh! The sword out of the back in the boot there. Please, Ray, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

Well, Ray's known to get pirates, so Well hang on, Dad needs a chat.

SPEAKER_04 55:19

Is he dad said something about has he got any blue blue or something? I don't know what he's on about. Blue what? Blue tape? I don't know what he's on about. But anyway, yeah, pinky was for dad as a chat, Ray.

SPEAKER_02 55:36

Ray has given me a tape for dad, and it just says breaking all the rules. And on the front covers are some cheerleaders.

SPEAKER_04 55:47

What are the aces on there for?

SPEAKER_02 55:51

Don't ask any questions, but to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

Oh, don't turn off the mummy.

SPEAKER_02 55:55

This is a real thing and people should find somewhere to check it out. I might take that, now I'm too young. What am I gonna take? I'm gonna take I'm gonna try and get myself over the fear of it, because it's it's very gory and it's a little bit in intimidating to me. I'm gonna um I'm gonna have a slice, I'm gonna I'm gonna rape I want Robocop. Well, only if you don't tell Mumsy, we're all good.

SPEAKER_04 56:27

Do a deal with dad, we won't say about the cheerleader one, you don't say about Robocop, Dad. Done. Done.

Championship Manager Divide

SPEAKER_02 56:36

And with that Ray has disappeared. All I saw is a whisk of smoke.

SPEAKER_04 56:42

Um I just saw a pebble dash at the greenhouse.

SPEAKER_02 56:45

Him and him and Trace are trying for a kid. Are they?

SPEAKER_04 56:49

Oh, that'd be nice.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

We're gonna name it after the greengrocer Wayne.

SPEAKER_04 56:53

Uh yeah. Why don't they name it after Greengrocer?

SPEAKER_02 56:56

Wayne Veg apparently, uh He's just an inspirational cat around the village, as you know, so they like the sound the name of Wayne.

SPEAKER_03 57:16

Ooh, right. Yeah, Wayne Veg. Wayne Veg for Wayne.

SPEAKER_04 57:23

There we go.

SPEAKER_01 57:25

For Wayne!

SPEAKER_04 57:26

Um anyway, we'll uh we'll jump on to our uh subs list now.

SPEAKER_02 57:32

Yeah, so obviously we've managed to collect up a group of pen pals, yeah, and they send us money and and sometimes like little Calippo drinks, you know, the plastic drinks the foil lid on that you smash through. I mean one of them even sent me uh a shandy bass. So nice.

SPEAKER_04 57:47

Oh, can I just say Carlos, can you sell a tape the 10p's in? Because they keep rattling and falling out of the envelope. So yeah, they yeah, we we only had£42.50 uh£42 pence. Sorry,£42.50 last week. So yeah, we're we lost a few pence. So seller tape them in.

SPEAKER_02 58:06

Later tonight, I'm gonna drink that can of Shandy Bass at Bobel Overcent as quick as possible, and I'm gonna be off I'm gonna be I'm gonna be I'm gonna be drunk.

SPEAKER_04 58:15

Careful, 'cause that's got like 0.02% alcohol in there.

SPEAKER_02 58:18

Yeah, well if I had two cans, I'd be I'd be I'd I you know, don't come near me, I'll punch you.

SPEAKER_04 58:25

Oh my god, careful you aren't sick.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

I won't be sick, I'm a real man, that's why I'm drinking shambi pass.

SPEAKER_04 58:33

Last time I was sick, I shotgunned a can of cream soda.

SPEAKER_02 58:41

I'm glad it's 1992, because if this was me in the future on some sort of future podcast thing or whatever they call it, I think I'd have wanted to interrogate you about uh doubling up on a cream soda.

SPEAKER_04 58:53

Yeah, and that was the big can as well.

SPEAKER_02 58:55

And then the aftermath of what that might look like.

SPEAKER_04 58:58

Yeah, it won't good.

SPEAKER_02 59:00

Let's say, first of all, thank you to everyone that supports us. Uh we're hoping that if this pilot has done well and you've enjoyed it, it will form part of the rotation. Uh the good news is you won't need to change your subs or anything like that. You're still gonna get it part of everything. So we're very appreciative of you helping. Um, we won't interest just the tiers and I'll talk about them here for the sake of doing our best to make this as historically accurate as possible. Um so we'll kick off our start with uh I get the wonderful all the way from now. We must have found him when me and mum and dad, mumsy and dadsy went on a skiing holiday to Sweden because that's where Cenox is from. So we must have shared on the cross channel ferry. Maybe me and him shared a go on his game gear or game boy. I don't know. But thank you to Cenox. Who's next?

SPEAKER_04 59:49

Uh we have the one man George fan club Carlos. I think we met at Boy Skates, I think we had a camp somewhere down Essex Way, so we met and became Pen Pal. So

SPEAKER_02 1:00:00

You had a camp. What did he make of that?

unknown 1:00:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:03

Carlos. Was he alright with it?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Loved it. Yeah, loved it. Yeah, so uh thank you very much, Carlos.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:10

Okay. Well, this next guy, he goes to school with us. He earned his nickname because he was once working uh on the BBC Micro and he smashed it that hard that the key, the the enter key, the return key got really hard. So we call him Firm Returns.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:29

Yeah, brilliant name that brilliant. He was so good on the BBC Micro as well, he's brilliant, isn't he?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

He is. And and he he knows his way around Granny's Garden.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:39

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:40

Better than anyone.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:42

I want to take this next one if I may, because um there's a little village outside near Conningsby in Lincolnshire on the outskirts of Farmerton called New York. And there's an engineering firm.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:52

The place in America.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:53

Well, there's an engineering firm there that make trestles for KMA engineering, so they can build the megastands on them. Yes, that's trestles of New York, Lincolnshire.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:01

Oh, maybe you never know. They might send us a free uh mega stand.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:05

I think you're probably going to end up getting a three-tier veg rack, but uh who's next?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:10

Next up we have the wonderful badabinkster. Met him on the uh school trip to Italy. Uh lovely lad, yeah, brilliant. So yeah, thank you very much for your support as always.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:21

He's beautiful, isn't he? Now this guy, uh, I met him outside electronics boutique in Lincoln as he took me into the big smoke to uh grab myself a new game. And he was kind of hanging outside one of the cool kids. Uh in 1992, I don't think I owned a baseball cap. I don't know what this is, let's pretend it's not. Uh and he had one on backwards. He had a Game Boy hanging out his mat pocket. He looked like a walking advert for a for Super Nintendo magazine for a game.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:49

No way. He sounds so cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

He is cooler than cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:53

Oh man, I want to be friends with him.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

He's the sort of guy that makes Chesney Hawk look uncool.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:59

I didn't know that was possible. He's the one and only. Edit that, Phil, copyright. He'll be after us.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:09

If you need to see that boy, these some places take to Chesney.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:14

Um not gonna happen.

VHS Picks And Side Banter

SPEAKER_04 1:02:16

Next up, I met this guy um outside an old bits and bites computer shop in Norwich, uh, Digital Monkery. Yeah, real connoisseur of the Mega Drive. I've one day, I've I reckon one day he's gonna have uh everything mega drive. He just seems that sort of guy, you know. He's he's really into the system, so in the future he's gonna have a full collection if that's ever possible. But thank you, Digital Monkey.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:40

Well, gaming Graham joined the uh Pen Pal. We met him at school. Me and him sat next to each other, we don't normally, and um so I didn't really know him up until this point. And Mrs.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:51

Was he the guy that always had the peanut butter and jams hamagers?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:54

I never sat with him at dinner, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:56

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:57

But we were in we were in French. Uh Mrs. Doby, she's quite hot, although she's got hairy armpits bent over, and gaming gram says he saw a nipple. I argued with him quite loudly, but she couldn't decide what we were arguing about, and obviously we couldn't say, so we both ended up on detention. But while we're on detention, we talked about possibly what he saw, which is obviously quite interesting to us, but then we also talked about our video game patching. Oh that's why he's here.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:24

Oh brilliant, thank you very much. Game and Graham. Next up, we have Bald Border. Now, this guy is a few years older than me in school, you know the one, he's he just tells the teachers whatever, they don't care. Next minute, he's skateboarding past the window. Tricks, he does board slides, everything. He's like that. Who's that new guy in America who's really good at skating? What's his name? Tony Hawk, is it? Someone like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:49

I don't know if everyone any I don't know. No, I don't know who he is.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:52

He's only a young kid, he's in that guy, no, he's in that um Bones Brigade, he's in that all them skateboarders.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:00

He's more like California games.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:03

Yeah, well, if you think California games, that's what ball border's like. You know, teacher saying, get in this classroom, and he's doing a kick flip past the Get over here, giving him the bird, yeah, got a can of iron brew, you know, proper hard. But yeah, but thanks, ball boarder. I yeah, I look up to him, so that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:20

Okay, well, this next guy, he's an elite special forces guy. He's just got back from uh Desert Storm. No he is, right? He is Andy McNabb's best mate.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:31

He doesn't have them like imp infrared glasses sort of things to look in the dark. No, right, he must eat a lot of carrots then.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:40

He basically downloads them in every orifice he can so he can see as much as he can.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:47

Going orange going orange. Um what an image. Anyway, sorry, Boba, but thank you. Next up.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

But can I just say, by the way, jumping off the retro thing, his Insta stories have picked up, like he keeps having like the hottest, freshest drip. I saw him in a VHS and a gremlins t-shirt this morning. I was like, wow, I know he's he's too cool now.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:14

He is too cool for us. I I messaged him and just said them t-shirts are awesome, mate.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:18

I mean too and all these toy cons, all that, you know. I I aspire to be his left toenail.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:29

You probably set your inspirations a bit high there. But fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:34

What's lower than that?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:36

Right, next up we have It was clean as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:41

Oh, he's he's a ground scraper from up there. So that's lower than that. Jesus wheeze, no wonder he's a hit with the ladies. Right, who's next?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:49

We've got the wonderful ging. I can't say the usual I mean say, 'cause that puts the whole show out of Kilwart, but.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:54

No, he's my red-headed step-brother.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:57

Hey, I see what you've done there.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:59

He's the kind of guy I want to hate. Like, you know, he's he's come into the family, he's giving it all the big big guy I am. He's a bit younger than me, so he cries all the time, gets what he wants. But he's harder than you. He's so strong. He's got that feral kid in him. Do you know what I mean? He he he doesn't, you know, he wins you win the fight fairly, and then he gets up and comes at you. He's like a feral dog.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:21

You know, you you put him down, you're like, that's the end of it now, mate, and everyone's like, yeah, woo. And then he gets up, he just doesn't know when to stop the dog.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:27

The other day he said a swear word at Deb's Babs, she came after him, and he pushed her off her bike. And I mean, I didn't think she was ever movable off that bike, and he actually pushed her straight off the bike, and I just thought that kid's got some strength.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:39

The thing is, you say that about Debs Babs, but like right now, she's obviously older than us, she's 21, she's running that thing. I actually think she's quite pretty.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:49

Yeah, I suppose so.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:50

She's the sort of person in like 10 years' time you're gonna still be sniffing around.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:55

Hmm, maybe. Maybe. I don't know. Seems to have a big cue of gentlemen there, and none of them seem to be getting burgers, so I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:04

Yeah, well you'll be cured for a hot dog like the rest of them.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:09

Anywho, who we got next?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:12

I don't know. Harvey Retro. Fine kid.

Shout‑Outs And Pen Pals

SPEAKER_04 1:07:17

He he he he he No, he has a mega drive stand.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:21

He has, and I met him outside of um Village Video in the local village, and he came out putting like Freddie and all those scary things, and I was a bit intimidated by it because I saw like ten minutes of Freddie and I couldn't sleep for a week, and he's walking around like with all of them, and he's renting them. And he's cool as well, he's got long hair as well, so he looks like Yeah, he looks like one of the lost boys. Yeah, yeah. He's got long hair and he he's like scary, like a bigger boy, like he's in Guns N' Roses or something. He's he's he looks well cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:01

I love them I love them high-tech basketball boots he wears. They're well cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:05

Sometimes as well, he even puts his hair on a ponytail and he he mmm he looks really cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:11

Hmm. Yeah, I'm not allowed to grow my hair long, mum said.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:16

Mumsy said, I asked for a wedge and she said no. So then I had a short back at sides, which is ultimately the same haircut, but not quite as aggressive, and I I just it was embarrassing.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:26

I've just got a pudding basin that I try and use my dad's gel on, but ended up looking like Robert Smith.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:33

My wedge was about half a certain rate up the back of my head, and I I just looked like a lesbian. And everyone at school said so. So it's not unfair to say that.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:48

Next up we've got true story.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:55

School was harsher than I did.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:57

It was very harsh. There's a lot of stories I can't say on here. Um next up we have the wonderful Emma Sharp.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:08

She's uh I think she's gonna start travelling the world. She's gonna start taking our tapes, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:14

She's she's yeah, she's aiming to when she leaves school at the moment. Um but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:19

What do you think she's gonna do when she's older?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:21

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:22

She's got her lessons and everything.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:24

Yeah, I think she'll be a journalist or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:26

Oh yeah, I imagine no, I can see that. She's got a pork pie on. Does she need to wear a meat product as a hat? I don't know. But she's got a press written on it.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:37

Last week I gave her my Highland Toffee off my beano and a Wambar and she done my maths homework. And I got an A for that. So she's clever. She is clever.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:48

I honestly didn't know where this was going, and I was so relieved when he said maths homework that I don't think I knew what to do himself.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:55

Right, he's next.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:57

Emma Sharp? Just I see who's next. Okay, this kid, he's a whiz on the 486 in the IT computer room.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:06

Is he the Doom champion?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:07

He's the Doom Champion.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:08

He's always in there in playtime.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:10

Yeah. Oh, I know you mean. No, no, no, no. He's not Doom Champion. He he he ain't got access to that yet. He's the Wolfenstein champion. And that's why his nickname in the playground. Because everyone would think that you need to be living in Germany to be good at Wolfenstein. But that's why his nickname in the playground is nowhere near Berlin.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:29

Oh, that's why. Wolfenstein champ. Damn, yeah, he is good. He asked me if I wanted to play somebody's FPS or something they're called, but I don't think he knows that they're called that. Yeah, but I do. Um but yeah, no, I can't I can't play there, make me feel sick. Um then next up we have Mumsy as always. Thanks, Mumsy. I got a pound last week for doing washing up for a week. A pound note.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:55

So I'll got note. I did. Well, that's not much easier then, Sunbeam. So knock yourself out.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:03

Well mum Mumsy and told me that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:06

Oh, there goes my picket mix. There's a group of three girls that walk around school and they all got places. No, Lucy ain't got them anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:19

Don't she?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:19

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:21

She's a fight of Stonehenge.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:24

She's your girlfriend pass, so you know, hopefully she'll get a copy of this tape as seeing as she pays four pounds fifty for this tape. She's getting the tape. So you better tell her that you love her.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:35

Sorry, Lucy, love you.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:37

Was it Lucy?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:38

I think so.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:39

If not, it sounds that that sounds really weird, so anyway, they'll follow you around break time and all that, because I think you're celebrity because you've got a tape. And they call themselves the RGT fan club. Lucy Lucy There's Lucy, Lucy S and Lucy T.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:02

Yeah, well they also said if right, I because they're they're only getting into game and not they go. Hang on, hang on, hang on.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:09

Whoa, hold on, hang on, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no, stop.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:16

Stop.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:17

No, I'm not stopping.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:19

Put your brakes on and admit the fact that if you are called RGT at school, you damn near really can't stand for retro gamer, can it? So what does it stand for?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:29

Well, because they're getting into like uh spectrums and stuff. And they're a few years old now, and they're asking if there's anything like retro to play. And I say, I've got all the gear. I thought of Vic 20.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:43

I thought it was because you argued that sports shouldn't be sexualised, and therefore you wanted to be on the netball team and you were rearguard Thomas, and that's why they were your fan club because you were the best rear guard they've ever had.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:55

Anyway, they said to me, Couldn't you as we're new to gaming? Couldn't you recommend any old games for us we should get into to get up to a speed where you are? Um and I said, Well, I could maybe do that. She said, Well, maybe you get like something like you know, call it a hidden gem or something, and we we'll write a little theme song for you. So apparently that's what they're gonna be doing, so you'll have to listen out for that. Um as long as they don't go and copy like a TV show or something, that'd be ridiculous. But um yeah, so who we got next?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:26

We have I want the net ball thing to grip in. I feel it's a safer bet.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:32

You want it to grip in.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:35

Yeah. Up next, the guy who outside the Briley building threw a brick at me uh with with without even breaking sweat. It's Pete Brocklehurst.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:47

And I see what you've done there, you just jumped the queue and said two on the trot, because then I know what that ends up with I'm getting. So um next up.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:54

Oh, I didn't mean to do I I've lost track because we both talked during your fan club era.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:59

Um, sorry, no, sorry, I'll carry on. Next up we have our mate, Billy. Um, and because of his love of twiglets, your mate, my mate, Billy Marmite. Yeah. Billy Marmite, thank you, Billy. You know, I don't have a lot of money, but it's good to you give us a bit of your pocket change.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:17

Yeah, because he's the poorest guy at school, and the fact that he's on this list is is incredible.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:22

Uh and if you think you ain't got enough money to send us three pounds, and that's not 1992 money, that's now money. And it's three dollars, so it's damn near Tuppin's apney. Please send us some money.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:36

Tupp and apney.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:41

Which means I get the immortal. Now he's now he's big into he's big into Dungeons and Dragons.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:49

Oh yes, he is.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:50

He loves a bit of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:52

And quite often you just see him walking down to the spa dressed as a wizard. Come on, controlled, controlled. Oh. Do I still have to do this? This seems wrong in 1992.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:17

Well, what's he who's he named himself after in 1992? That's the question.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:22

He's named himself after that. Smash it from 1991. Street Fighter 2.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:28

Oh wow. He's cutting edge at this guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:33

So I'm gonna say this normally, for now I know I'm contractually obliged to.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:39

No, you're contractually obliged to.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:41

No, you just want me to do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:43

You made yourself contractually obliged. I did not make myself a 1992 version.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:52

You've watched Camomile Lawn on Quiet in your bedroom through your fingers.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:58

No, I've watched bad influence.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:01

Oh, thing is bad influences aren't like half four, in the city.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:15

If that's the road you want to go down, you go down it.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:19

So just gonna have to say thank you very much to that thingy.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:26

Wow, sounded like your first. Uh thank you to one.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:31

Technically was, but yeah. That's canon! That's canon! That's canon now. It's canon.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:43

We can do so much retrospective re-canonization of the storyline with this flashback show. I love it.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:50

Okay, that's I I feel there's gonna be so if this continues and people are like this, there's gonna be some very deep lore coming out of this.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:57

I'm still waiting on someone taking the effort to write the law Bible.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:04

Oh, yeah, but that's all over the show.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:08

It's all over every show that you're gonna have to listen to everyone. And right now I need to download so far.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:14

Yeah, download the back catalogue, please.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:17

Start better, back catalog, yeah, come do something. Anyway, thank you to everyone that subscribes, thank you to everyone that doesn't. We call you the cheap seats, we don't mean it's an insult, but the show will always be free, it remains so. Um, and we're hoping, as you can see, we're hoping in the year of 2025 to broaden and deepen the content that we give you. Uh if you saw the artwork reveal on YouTube, you would have seen possibly some hints towards this coming down the line on the desktop. Maybe there's some hints at other things that are coming down the line if you go and have another look at that episode, or if you've only heard the audio version, go check the video version. Um with all that said and done, uh, we'll discuss the tiers next week on the normal show. But now's a great time to get involved because we've got the new artwork coming out. So everyone to go check Instagram, have a look at the artwork, have a look at on Twitter, Blue Sky, wherever you go, have a look at the artwork.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:11

Just to say to everyone, they're being sent this week. So I have started contacting people, so if you haven't been contacted, don't worry, I will be getting your but as a new joiner for five pounds, they get the full they could get a full suite, get a lot of perks, and get some art on a postcard. Mm-hmm. Yeah, for get it on the fridge magnet. So, and I'll chuck in one of our special limited edition postcards as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:34

Okay, so the fridge magnet I call a postcard from it's from from the wooden postcard company, but it's a fridge magnet, but it's got the artwork on it, so you get to keep it forever. Yeah, this will be very collectible. Sounds like QVC. Once this stuff's we once we move to the next season, we might have to start blocking off this stuff. This could become very, very collectible.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:53

So, like the the original two um uh fridge magnets we done are there's no stock of those anymore. So if you got them, you've got them. So whoever's had those, that's the only ones there is available of those. The same with these. So these will be once they're gone, they're gone. We've had one.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:09

So if you're listening and want to get on board, you can start from now, but you're gonna have to sweet talk out the hands of some of the older listeners. If you want the full set, you're gonna have to start talking to them very kindly to get yourself the first two postcards. So this is how it starts. Don't say we didn't warn you. If you get on board at season six, it's not so bad. But you need to probably already get on board. Uh RGT. Yes. What's next? I guess I need to ask you what you're hoping to play for this game in the week.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:42

Yes. Well, I'm still trying to complete Sonic, so I will be putting some more time into that. I need to get that done, you know, because a few of the guys at school have already done it, and you know, they keep taking a meeting.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:55

Why didn't you tell me that this made me look like Jab of the Hooked?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:58

It doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:01

Let me reach into my thing and grab out a squid. La la la la Now you do. Um I look more like Sil.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:11

La la la la la la la la la la.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:13

There's a deep cut.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:15

Hmm.

What We Hope To Play Next

SPEAKER_04 1:20:20

Anyway, I'm gonna try and complete something um get that done. I'm gonna play more Streets of Rage because um yeah, I'd like to try and get through that, try and do an old one-life job on that. That'd be good as we're getting better at it. And also, I need to try and perfect skateboarding on California games. Hacky sack done, surfer done. Skateboarding, and also probably be a Mexican, I'm not very good at, so I really want to get them done, but that's probably what I'll be playing, depending on what I'll be allowed to play, as long as I do my chores. About you, George, what are you hoping to play?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:55

Um, I'm gonna be having a go at um off the back of playing some Jeff Crammans. I did actually pull out Stunt Car Racer, it's obviously totally different than this. What a game that are similar. So he obviously did his stunt car racer game. I got that pirate from Stephen Pratt in the playground.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:13

Um you're playing that on the Atari.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:16

The Atari ST.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:18

Yeah, I had it on my spectrum, but I played the Amiga version and god graphics. I mean, how can they get better than that? It's just so realistic.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:24

They're knocking on the door of F1 Grand Prix, right? Yeah, and it's an older game.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:28

So yeah, I'll be back.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:29

I've actually got my I'd actually got my mum's old Honda Honda Melody uh crash hat and sat and wore it while I played Stunt Car Racer just to give it that realistic vibe.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:37

I don't, because this is I'm not confessing to this, not again. Uh wow. The the circuits though and their the slimness of them do actually make it quite difficult, I found.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:52

Can be, yeah. You have to know the speed and for the jumps, but also for the corners, and also you crack your chassis, so you have to be careful when you don't bottom out and keep cracking your chassis. That's quite technical.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:04

And I'm also playing, I don't know if this is new out or old, but I'm also playing on the Atari ST Supercast 2.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:12

Mmm, I haven't played that. What's it like?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:14

So I'm hoping to play it's top-down, obviously. It's a bit like Iron Hoffman or something like that. Um, it's top down, super fast. Text it's like controlling a remote control car, though. Because you top down, you need to be thinking on the bonnet of the car all the time about which way's left and which way's right. But you get these weapons, you get weapons on the car. So when you were talking earlier about uh out running Europa and feeling like Bond, no Spy Hunter and that. Yeah, I've I feel a bit like Bond, but you're obviously racing I think five other cars, so yeah, Supercars 2 is is is great. I I've really enjoyed it. And um if Terry comes round, we're either gonna play some F1 Grand Prix, or we've been playing the um that no second prize game, the motorbike 3D. He begins to have 3D at the minute.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:07

Yeah, well that's that's the future, mate. It's the future.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:10

He's threatening to pick up stunt car race FX with uh an adapter pack for the SNES.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:19

That is yeah, that's the business.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:21

Can he afford that or breaking the fourth wall a little bit, yeah, he can afford it. But to think that we all got round and like went, ooh, and ah at the SNES performing some 3D rendered graphics on a screen that it was generating on Utelli that was no bigger than a postage stamp. And I shun things like the Atari ST that had 22 cars running round a track simultaneously with a 3D area to flock to the SNES because in my mind it was technically superior.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:55

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:58

And cartridges must be cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:01

Yeah, we were quite fickle in those days, weren't we?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:03

Very fickle.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:04

Yeah. But you get got some game in the head with Tellin.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:10

Yeah, Tether, yeah, he's uh yeah, he's a he's a good gaming companion. Uh he's a good friend. And uh where wherever he ends up in the future, I wish him the very best. Bless him. Bless him. Well one day he's gonna hear these odes to himself, he's gonna stumble across them, he's gonna be like Rory's probably not gonna be Rory, but what an idiot. I don't even care for him.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:37

Why am I on here?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:39

Why am I on here? I never give him up in a shit, I'm suing it. Oh Terry, please.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:49

No, tell, please. Tell yeah.

unknown 1:24:54

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:55

Anyway, what we'll say is um I hope you like this pilot. Um, for you for you know you people in the Discord, give us a bit of feedback. Let us know what you think if you enjoyed the show.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:06

Um and if you've never messaged him before and you've heard this and think actually I like the idea of them broadening it, I like the idea of this, reach out on the email. Reach out any form of social media or the email, questions it on official controllerpodcast.com. Let us know your feedback because we want to steer this in this direction. Um, but equally so we want to make sure it's something that you guys can enjoy, guys and girls can enjoy uh and can get behind.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:30

So yeah, give us you know, please if if you think you know the law's a bit too much and you want a bit more factoral about the times, let us know. If you like the law and think there isn't enough and want us to play along with it, let us know. Either way, that you know, everything's constructive. Just let us know what you think, what you prefer, and we'll try and tailor it to what we've got to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:48

And this is the pilot, this is our first stab before we launch into episode one series one of flashback. Uh and also some feedback on the name. Um let us know.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:58

Yeah, see what you think, and yeah, like I say, any uh any feedback is brilliant for us, and we can we can sort of tailor it around that and and see what you think, you know. Even if you even if there's something you turn around and say, Well, it's not really for me, didn't really like that, prefer this side of the other shows, let us know what you like so we can we can then perfect the other shows as well. But yeah, just let us know what you think. Um and just leaves us one more thing to say, which is thanks everyone. And there's nothing wrong with being given the unofficial controller, it's what you do that that counts. See you later, George.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:29

See you later, RGT.