Conscious Physician: Medicine & Psychedelics

Can Animals Speak to Us? Nick Musica Shares the Messages That Changed Everything

Lida Fatemi Season 1 Episode 29

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What if your pet had something important to tell you?

In this fascinating episode of The Conscious Physician: Medicine and Psychedelics Podcast, Dr. Lida Fatemi sits down with Nick Musica, an intuitive animal communicator who discovered his extraordinary gift after receiving an unexpected message from his beloved cat.

Nick shares the incredible story of how a visit to a psychic medium awakened abilities he had unknowingly carried his entire life—from clairvoyant dreams to telepathic communication with animals. He explains how meditation, intuition, and energetic awareness opened a completely new way of understanding our relationships with animals and ourselves.

Together, Dr. Lida and Nick explore:

✨ How animals communicate energetically with humans
✨ Why pets often mirror our emotions and life challenges
✨ The surprising messages animals share about our health and relationships
✨ The difference between intuition and imagination
✨ Protecting your energetic field and distinguishing your emotions from those around you
✨ The role of meditation in developing intuitive abilities
✨ Why purpose can transform suffering—for both humans and animals

This episode is an invitation to expand your understanding of consciousness, intuition, and the profound wisdom that animals may be here to teach us.


In This Episode You'll Learn:

  • The moment Nick realized he could communicate with animals
  • How intuition often develops through unexpected life experiences
  • Why animals frequently act as our teachers and mirrors
  • The connection between energy, emotions, and healing
  • How meditation can help you strengthen your own intuitive abilities
  • Why integration and daily practice matter more than peak experiences


Memorable Quote

"The medicine opens the door, but you have to keep moving through it." – Nick Musica



SPEAKER_01

So um what a pleasure to be here with you, Nick, today. Um I read some about you and your story, but of course want the listeners to hear it from you. So take it from whatever it feels good to you to share with us.

SPEAKER_00

We'll do. Okay. Thanks, Lita. Yes. About a year ago, a little more than a year ago, my wife and I went to this uh psychic fair in Carlsbad, California, where we live. And we see a young lady, uh, her name is Adelita, um, and she's a psychic medium. I've never been to a meeting before, and I I see her and I go, Hey, Jill, what do you what do you think of her? Do you think she'll be good for today? And she goes, That sounds great. Why don't you go first? So I sit down with Adelita and she starts by drawing this heart. And she says, It's either a former romantic relationship or it's a it's an animal. And then she circles the the heart with the animal. And she starts, she says, the message is you did too much. And so now I'm thinking about the last two years I spent on the planet with my cat Henry, who was 22 when he passed, going back and forth to the vet, terribly emotional, kidding with it like a ton of bricks, and uh changing the food, doing the blood work, whatever you can to treat the symptoms of a cat who's 20 years old, right? And you're really treated the symptoms of yourself not wanting to let go of the cat. That's really what in hindsight, and with the messaging, you're like, everything is terribly clear. And so I'm realizing that I'm having a conversation with my cat who's been past for probably just as long, about 20 years. And she continues and she says, they're now showing me Dr. Doolittle, they're showing me that you can talk to animals and it's going to be easy for you. And I thought, I've never heard anything more truthful in my life. I couldn't tell you why. Like it sounds so off the wall, but this is super true for me. And so I go home and I've been doing meditation for a few years, and so I do meditation, and I think, okay, she said it's going to be easy, so let me do my thing and I'll try to tune into my living cat, Chucky. And uh, so I sit down, my usual spot, do my meditation, and try to find Chucky, and and what I see is this bright light, the type you would associate with like spirit animals or like spirit guides or or angels or something like that. And I think there's absolutely no way this is my cat, right? Like he poops in a box, sometimes he poops on the floor. He is not a higher level being. That's just not how this works. So I call her up and I say, This isn't working, and certainly not as easy as you said it was going to be. Her response is, Well, you're expecting things to show up in very specific ways. This is not how this works. Just be the channel, let the information come through. What you get is what you get. Okay. So I decided to give it a second shot. And I buy animal communication books. That's what this whole thing is called is animal communication. There's there's a ton of books out there. I had no idea. My library looks totally different now. I buy all these books and I set up a couple sessions with animal communicators, people who actually do what she said, I'll be able to do. I want to see what it actually looks like, right? And as I'm about to step up to go to from my dining room table to go to this computer to have a Zoom conversation with an animal communicator, I get this flash. And I what I see is a scene out of Return of the Jedi. I see the ghost of Obi-Wan and the ghost of Yoda. And I know immediately this is coming from Chucky. Absolutely, 100%. And if he's showing me a student-teacher relationship, except the human in this case, me, I'm the student, I'm not the teacher. And that was very clear. And now I'm thinking about that white light that showed up. And I'm going, yeah, yeah, that was that was definitely Chucky coming through. So I sit down with this animal communicator and she says, We're validating what we're here to talk about Chucky. Uh-huh. Do you know who he is to you? Yeah. Yeah, he just showed me. And that was the start of our conversation.

SPEAKER_01

How interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, super cool.

SPEAKER_01

And I tell me, so in these communications, what is conveyed to you? I'm very curious. What you're describing is being in tune with your intuition, with that source, with how whatever you want to call it, but animals are connected to source in a they just are. And we have all these masks throughout the presentation. And that's our journey. That's our human journey. The other beings on this planet, including plants, um, they are connected to the source without any blockages. It just is. And for a human to clear themselves from those blockages so that they are in connection so readily is not common, but we can get there. And that's what's really cool about this. That then you're like, no, I yeah, this is my truth.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Happyness is so cool.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's super cool. Yeah. So uh 100%. We all have access to some version of this for ourselves. Animals just happen to show up for me, right? And ever since I I took the blockages out of the way that I put there, right? It's it has to show up like this. It has to look and present like this, or else it doesn't count. Well, you can add a lot of things when you do that, right? And that's what I was doing. Uh, but ever since getting rid of those blockages and telling people, you know, I had a weird thing showing up for 30 years that I that I didn't want to talk about. Because who do you talk about about this weird thing, right? There's no one really to talk about at the time. And now I'm the guy that people come to and go, so this thing happened. Yeah, tell me about it. Well, you know that I I flip furniture. Yeah, I know this is a client. And she flips furniture, she gets furniture out of like the dumpsters or whatever it is, and she sands it down, varnishes it, and sells it. She goes, You know what I'm doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But why are we talking today? Well, I was looking for a sign. Okay, tell me about it. And I went onto your Instagram and I saw you talking in Santa Barbara about talking with animals. And I I thought, you're the person I need to talk to about this. Tell me all about it. Well, not only am I just doing the furniture, but the way that I found it, find the pieces of furniture now is I hear a voice. I hear a voice that says, Go down this alleyway and you're gonna find furniture. In so many words, that's that's what happens. And she says it every time I hear that voice, I go down an alleyway, I find furniture. And then I put my hand on the furniture and I start to glean the stories of it. Like she she can get the energy out of the furniture. Like there's it's everywhere, right? It's just a matter of how does it show up for you, right? And so for her, here's my personal theory is like for her, it showed up with furniture because she has a huge appreciation for the furniture. For me, it showed up with animals because the same reason. I have an appreciation for an animals and I have for a long time. So that's that's how it shows up.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. And there's love there, there's passion for it. It's hard to go. It's like you're leading with the heart, and everything else just comes from that, and it's all the noise kind of goes away, and you're able to hear the signal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's so cool, and it's so true when you when you talk about the furniture thing. For years now, I'm very particular about what comes into my house and the art that I put up or whatever it is that's in my house. And in fact, there there are definite moments where I bring something and I sit with it and I bring my own energy into it, um, a nature energy to cleanse before I bring it into the house.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because those vibrations do they travel, they they come with you.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, there's so many, if if I could react to that, that shows up in many forms or has been for me. So, like there's a spot that I go hiking with a buddy, and if it's early in the morning, it's quiet, it's clear, it feels good to be in. If it's later in the afternoon, after people have gone through it, it's a little muddier. It's just different. It doesn't have like a crisp feel to it anymore. And I'm not talking about the air. I'm talking there's a different quality that shows up. It's just crisp and and and the trees move in a certain way uh when you're out there, right? Where not everyone's gonna see that moving. Even l it they move even less though in the in the afternoon because of the shift in energy out there. I learned it was it was probably a couple years ago. There was a there's a street fair happening here in town, and I learned that picking something up um can have an impact on me. And this is when things were really just starting to open up for me, and I didn't really quite understand what was happening. There was this gentleman walking around, he was we'll call him very religious and very angry all at the same time. I I don't have a problem with religion, I do have a problem with angry, however presents. And he was just angry and he was saying nasty things on a megaphone about people. And uh for whatever reason, I'm at this table and he he's now behind us and he says something, and I thought, and he's holding out his hand, he has a business card. And I figured if I take what he's giving, he'll go faster than not because everyone is in this area is listening to him saying nasty things. There's just like passive, aggressive, just nasty stuff. So I'm gonna take it and then he's move on, I'll do everyone a favor. And I took the card and now I'm feeling angry. I'm feeling just like sick to my sick to my stomach and just angry. And I looked at my wife and I said, I can't function. You gotta take me out of here. And she did. And she's like, What happened? I'm like, I I don't even this was the first time. Like, this is the first time I'm experiencing something like this. And so I'm like, I really don't understand what happened. It took me about 20 minutes to sort of like get to a place where I can start to contemplate what happened in a rational way. Because like it was clear that I picked this thing up, I felt this way. It was very clear what happened. But uh not but to be able to talk about that as if it actually did took about 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_01

This is such an interesting topic right here. With this example and this story and experience you went through, we pick up on each other's energy fields so readily. And recognition of that and tapping into that and understanding when it's my energy versus somebody else's energy that you've been in contact with this energetic field, we have it. Yes. Um, and am I picking up your anxiety or is it my anxiety, or is it and as a physician, you know, we come across so many patients and they're at their worst, right? Families are at their worst. And so it's very important to recognize that there are ways to protect and also cleanse those energies. 100% and to understand what's what. But you know, I'm I'm very curious to kind of pick your brain and experience about all of this. What do you do to uh protect your energetic field? Because we all we work on it, right? We work to have this space and container that is pure and beautiful and full of love, but we have to also have protection for it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. And energy management is really what it comes down to, right? Um, and so in in the beginning, we were talking about me going to Carlsbad and saw the psychic, and she said you'll be able to talk to animals, and it's gonna be quote unquote easy, right? And the easy part of it for me is attributed to the meditation that I was learning since 2017. So in 2017, and this was the weird thing that I mentioned, like this thing that showed up for me for 25 years or so, was living snippets of my dreams in real life. So they're called clairvoyant dreams, as far as I know. And so it's it's like seeing a a random dog on a random corner in a random city in your dreams, and then a day, week, month, year later, whatever it is, you actually drive by that dog in this random city you've never been in by that building, and you're and you're like, that's strange. Like I've I've seen this before. I've actually been here doing this thing. And it's not lucid dreaming, it is not deja vu. It is there was there was a dream that you had, you traveled in time, something happened. I really don't know how to explain it, but that is the experience, right? So that was happening for quite a long time. And in 2017, I thought, I'm gonna go figure out what this thing is. And I really didn't figure out what this one thing was. It wasn't okay, we'll wrap it up in a bow and and now store it away. It was the opening to all the things we're talking about, is what it was. And the way that I started to explore that was one with San Pedro, which is a psychedelic cactus, which has been wonderful and very, very helpful. However, I could have done this without San Pedro, but I could not have done this without the meditation that I learned with the gentleman who I sought out who said, I think something is tapping on the shoulder when I explained the dream thing to him. His name is David Waldis. I've been working with him for quite a while. We're friends, colleagues. But it we started out as a coaching relationship. And he ran me through this meditation, um, the system that he has. And it's all about what you just talked about, Lita. It's all about controlling your own energy, making sure you're not feeling the world coming at you and then interpreting that as your feelings. No, that's just the world out there. So, so how do you separate yourself and how do you recognize this is you and this is them, and how do you clean yourself, right? So the aligned living system is that system to get in tune with your own energy channel and recognize the difference between you and other and stay in there and cleanse it and operate from that position, as well as stabilize your energy in that position. There's a lot of meditations you can do, and I do more than one in addition to the aligned living, but the aligned living for me has really helped stabilize what that all means and feels so you can have a point of differentiation. So when you walk into a room, right, you don't, you just don't go, oh my God, I feel this. Well, what do you mean when you feel this? Like, is are you reading the room or do you suddenly feel angry inside or whatever, unsure, angry, like having feelings and and now those are your feelings. So now you're feeling anxious. Well, maybe it's the room feeling anxious, and you just happen to walk into an anxious room, right? So to understand the difference is extremely powerful for people because they don't know the difference. How you live every time you go around and you always bump your foot, you expect to bump your foot. This is how you feel. You always bump your foot. You're gonna go home bloody toes all the time. The world is rough. I'm always bleeding out of my toe, right? Or whatever it is, right? Because that's your experience. Well, it doesn't have to be that way. Like you just have to operate in a little bit of a different way, and then you can walk around without having bloody toes. I don't know why that example just came up, but it did.

SPEAKER_01

It's one that it's easy to remember too. Like, oh, I don't have to, right?

SPEAKER_00

You don't have to feel that way. It's it's it's been a game changer, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So aligned living is thank you so much. I also hold space as a facilitator in small dose and large dose ceremonies. Oh yeah. And so in that space, I've definitely learned what to do over the years internally, but I'm always looking for ways to evolve my practice because it's part of self-care, right? And it used to be that I would have many days after holding space for a macro dose journey to be able to like equilibrate myself again because people are really moving through a lot of a lot of heaviness and burdens and trauma during their ceremony, and um there's a lot of energy released in whatever way, and I'm holding that container, which I I'm privileged to do. I really do see it as a privilege to do this work. It used to take me a lot longer to get into this space of my centeredness again, and over the years it's gotten much easier. But then again, to have practitioners of all sorts, it doesn't have to deal with medicine at all. We're all healers at at the heart of it, we're all healers and we pick up on things and we're all sensitive in different ways um to have different tools to help us manage that energy. For sure. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For so for folks l interested in the aligned living, you can go to davidwaldis.com and you can find meditations and training there.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you. And let me tell you how happy I am when you say it's not really the San Pedro, though it it's good. It was the meditation that's 100%. Yeah, it's the work. It's the work we do.

SPEAKER_00

Totally. Yeah. I mean, here here's how I think about it. Like there's a couple ways I think about it. One is, are you married by chance?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's like yeah, when you get married, congratulations. You just signed up for a lot of work, right? But but I thought this was the work. I thought getting to this point to the ceremony was and saying yes was the work. No, no. You just open up a whole new world for you and your mate, and like now the work really begins. And isn't that beautiful? Like you're gonna get to know yourself and your mate and together in ways you never thought possible. And it's gonna be great and it's gonna be hard, and that's where it is. That's the fun of it, right? That's the after the medicine. And if you think you checked the box, aka have taken the medicine. Um, aka you said yes, good luck with that. Right? You're you're gonna do the medicine again, or you're gonna get married again, and you're gonna wonder what happened again. There's there's no forward motion, nothing. You need to take that and integrate it. This whole integration conversation is very confusing for me. I really don't understand what the world means by integration, quite honestly. Mine was do the meditation, take the action out of what you see, and where does it fit into your daily life or once a week, or where is that moment where it shows up in relevancy? I don't know. You gotta figure it out, you gotta be open to it, aware of it. But uh, the medicine opens the door, but you gotta keep on moving through it.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta keep moving and you gotta keep taking tiny actions in what it's showing you, you know. And if you stay in that space, right, and you're not taking action on earth in your daily life, we're missing the point.

SPEAKER_00

Then all you're doing is playing in it. Then all you did was swap out weekly alcohol, daily alcohol for once a month, once a week, medicine journey or whatever it is. But it's the same mentality applied to quote unquote plant medicine. And in that case, I would consider it a drug because it's taking you out of reality, right? It's a distraction. It's not medicine in that case. You're not using it as medicine, you're using it as a recreational drug. And that's a different conversation, but that's different than what we're talking about, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, a hundred percent. And so, Nick, I'm very curious to know how your own life changed. How was it pre-knowing your intuitive abilities and then how it evolved? And of course, it's never an overnight thing. Certain things maybe certain switches maybe, but it's always an evolution, it's always a total.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I mean, so I I would say starting young, I had an interest in the topic. Uh, my first experience with the psychic was like age 17. I remember getting my license, and and that was one of the first things I wanted to do. I wanted to go see Psychic Gym because my mother was going to him and I wanted to have that experience. And that was super cool. And my father introduced me to Edgar Casey, if you're familiar with who he is, yeah, he's uh sleeping prophet. He's no longer with us, but he's sleeping prophet, and a lot of his readings were about the health of an individual. So he's been super um influential in terms of forming the conversations that we're having today around the topics. So those things were at play, but they weren't part of my daily. They just weren't. And then the dreams would show up and they were just weird. Like, who do you talk to about that? There was no one really to talk to. It wasn't like we're talking today. There wasn't a crystal store on every corner where you can have an instruction and someone go, Oh, cool, you should talk to someone. That just wasn't available, right? It just wasn't a thing. So for a long time, it just sort of got put to the side and just wasn't explored until 2017, and things started to open up and things just started to change little by little for me. With the the plant medicine was were sort of milestones because you get a lot in a short amount of time, right? And then you sort of have to figure it out. And then meditation started. And then now I'm feeling things that you feel in plant medicine ceremonies, but you're not on plant medicine anymore, right? So now things are even stranger, but now I have a little group of folks I can talk to about it. And isn't this weird? No, it's not weird. This is how it works. But for about nine months, it was very strange for me. And I'm like, am I losing my shit or what? Like, what's going on here? Like, because this very different reality is over here and freeing different realities over here. Then at some point I sat myself down and said, You have to choose. Either it's happening or it's not happening. But you have to choose. Like, you either say it's not happening and keep on going, or it is happening and keep on exploring. Choose. It doesn't matter, but you have to choose. It can't be in between worlds, it doesn't work. So I chose and I kept doing the medicine and I kept doing the meditation. And uh and then you start to say very strange things, right? You start to say, I talk to animals. You start to say these things that uh you used to hear other people say, and you're like, how can that possibly be real? Well, a lot of things start to become very real once you have experiences. Then you go, well, this is my experience. And and I need to trust this person because there's a lot of nonsense out there in every respect. But if I trust this person and they're saying something that I don't believe, is it that I find them untrustworthy, or is that just my belief system that's showing up? Right. And then and and that's a difference for me because your experience is your experience. And if I trust you, I I can't pick and choose what I trust and what I don't trust. That's my perspective. Like I either trust a human being and then what I I believe you're saying is true because that's your experience. Regardless if I have any foundation for believing that, it does, it doesn't matter. What matters is I know my experience now, and that's your experience. And while we're all doing the same thing, it shows up in very different ways, very different ways. I'm never probably gonna talk to furniture. It's probably not gonna happen. It's not my thing. But I totally believe this young lady talks to furniture. I believe she has a relationship with furniture that um that is very unique for herself.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And for sure, she feels the vibrations and respect that for what it is, you know, instead of us having this weird judgment about about things, you know, there's so much we don't know, and it's so wonderful not to, you know, have to have it in a scientific way, you know. That's a beautiful thing too. The science of it is beautiful too, looking that looking at our energy fields, you know, where we can measure the frequencies of every moment. Totally. It's wonderful. That's also wonderful, but not to use it as dismissal, that's wonderful. So then what do you do with this now? Now that you are in this space and it's it's wonderful, what do you do with it?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So for about the first six months, things were showing up for me. We'll say the first six months after being told I'm gonna talk to animals. Things were showing up for me, right? Chucky, my cat, showed up. We were in Mexico, and and and a dolphin showed up. I had a conversation with a quick conversation with a dolphin. I got the information verified. So it was just like showing up in verification for me and like a random, a random interaction with the dog at Home Depot. I just saw the dog in line, I smiled at the dog, and all of a sudden I get this wave of energy. And I'm like, oh, this is this is how it works. So that that appreciation part shows up. Oh, okay. So that's an aspect of this. Got it. Okay. And then in the beginning of the year, I I was thinking, can I do this by myself? Can I do this for other people and and communicate with their animals and then bring that communication to them? Is that possible? And can I do it consistently? And how many of those a day can I do? I have no idea, no clue. And so I went on to Nextdoor. It's a little app, it's sort of like Facebook, but it's it's um same similar conversations, except it's people you don't know who live in your area versus friends, right? So I went on there and I posted and said, Hi, my name is I'm an animal communicator, that means I cycle. psychically talk to animals free 15 minutes sign up here let's see what happens and then i thought what did i do right i'm looking i'm looking at my submission going what what did i do what what what did i say can i do this you know like all these things start to like uh start to show up and then i'm using google docs to track this so you can see when it gets populated within the browser right and so i'm staring at this spreadsheet within moments a woman populates the first row and i feel her come through and i think um i'll be able to do this no doubt it'll be fine and uh and then i get on the line with her and well first i get on the line with the animal like on a Thursday and then on on Friday the following day I talk to her so my process is typically someone fills out the form they send in pictures uh I communicate with the animal a day before and then I get on the line with the human the day after invite the animal in sometimes they show up sometimes they don't but it's it's just it's a two-step process first the animals then the human and uh I get on the line with the human have the conversation 15 20 minutes whatever it may be and at the end of the conversation she says so the reason I wanted to talk to you is because um my prior animal communicator passed and me and my friends are looking for a new one would you be okay if I referred people to you so right out of the gate I got someone saying that this worked for them. So fantastic. So I've been doing that for the past five, six months now, give or take. And um so that's how we work with animals. And you you asked a question like so what what do they say? Like what happens? What do they do? Well people sort of come to me because they're observing something in the 3D world about their pet. And so like my animal here here's an example my animal's biting people I don't understand. Can you tell them to stop? Well maybe I can certainly I can certainly ask and I can certainly see what's going on. So let's let's do that. Right. So I tune into the animal it's a little chihuahua spicy ch chihuahua yeah right right as as you would expect them to be that's how they present from my experience. So I I find I find the chihuahua and the chihuahua says ask her about her job and I said why am I asking her about her job because that's what has to change. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

All right I got chills stop it right now.

SPEAKER_00

Right and and she was like tell my dog to stop biting and so we get on the line and and she's like did you have a chance to talk to my dog? I did. And and did you tell him to stop biting? Uh I didn't I didn't because here's what happened your dog wanted me to ask you about your job. What do you do? Well I'm unemployed but I'm a private driver. Well what does that mean? Uber limousines okay how's that working out? Well I have spinal issues and my doctor says I shouldn't do it because after an hour or so sitting in the car I'm very aggravated. My back is very aggravated. Here's what your dog said and now we have a conversation about the job right and here's like here's one of the things that shows up this is a theme. Animals show up frequently teaching with a mirror technique or a uh a modeling technique right so for example for me the modeling technique that my little boy has for me is every day every night seven o'clock to eight o'clock at night he has a certain call he's at the top of the stairs or he's at the bottom waiting for me to come and play. I have a bad relationship with the computer I will grind. That's and so I need the lesson of play more. And so some people will be like your cat likes to play a lot yes also the lesson there for me is to play more right if it's if it's not a modeling behavior, it's a mirroring behavior. So now we have a little dog biting people. We have a little dog who's angry well is the dog angry or is the dog modeling the behavior I would argue modeling the behavior in this case.

SPEAKER_01

Fascinating it's so interesting that we with um neighbors friends you know people you know the community dog that gets cancer and then what what is going on there in that relationship or what's not going on in that relationship that the dog wants or the pet. Yes the animal in your life needs and is it not being met? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I'm very curious to hear your Yeah I mean sometimes they will use their body as a tool right to teach the lesson. Right. So if you had, for example, and and this is someone that I talked to their little dog became paralyzed and couldn't walk and uh I tune into the dog and I saw the dog do doing a couple of things one of which was just like running around in circles and it was about the relationship. And I was like so here's here's what the dog showed me in in my head and like running around in circles and and the living the 3D version of that is your dog can't move forward. Right in circle is we're not going anywhere in circles either. And now your dog can't move forward. So like let's talk about what is not moving forward in your world what's going on.

SPEAKER_01

Wow that is so cool. That is so cool. So is this now what you do? Like this is your practice?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah not not not full time. I've I have office hours typically on Fridays and Tuesdays and I mean I'm I'm lucky to be able to have this conversation with you now during the day it's it's 1230 my time in California because I work for myself. So I I run for the past five ish years I've been running a little agency little SEO agency getting websites found in Google and building websites. And so that's been able to afford me the time and luxury of being able to step into conversations like this and set up the time to talk with dogs and and the humans and it's it's a trip, right? So we'll we'll see where life leads us. And uh for some people like it it's okay to have one foot in both worlds. And for others and for someone else you may have to go I want both feet in this world. And so if if both feet in that world opens up for me 100%. Yeah because it it's such a trip to talk to talk to animals and see what they have to teach us. And and the other thing yes was what do you do right? So I I do that but also because of being able to work with folks the thing that made it easy was that aligned living system and being able to get in touch with your own channel and your own energy and monitoring and uh just managing. And so I work with people to do that. So I started doing that 18 loosely didn't have a real have a place to to use it. So it sort of went dormant I was using it in my own life but uh recently I I've opened that up and I've worked with people to tuning into their intuition because some folks are like I want to do what you do. Well maybe I don't know like I didn't choose this it sort of chose me. And I did choose because my appreciation I feel but I don't think there's a guarantee for like me walking you through this process and going and now you'll be able to do this thing. Maybe but I don't think so. I think it's way more helpful for me to go here are the things that help me get to this point. Now be open to the thing that's going to show up for you because that's really cool. Right? We all do the same thing. We also do it very differently. So be open to the thing that shows up for you. And so I work with folks around that.

SPEAKER_01

That is amazing you know especially in the world that we live you know for the past so many decades it's all been about being forced in a particular profession or my goodness. You know yeah instead let's switch it and you know I find this you know difficult for me even today and I've done the so much work on myself because so many work on myself every single day every moment it's a whole thing.

SPEAKER_00

I never take a break from that inner work honestly and there's always more there's always more you're like really is there more well aren't you isn't the reason you're doing this is because of more all right good point.

SPEAKER_01

Okay let's keep going right keep going and that's what makes it fun there were points where like enough and then you're like no it's just life just go with it enjoy it. Enjoy what was happening but it's really interesting as we are shedding the older patterns of I was an academician always you know in school from Iran so academia was a huge thing in fact you know you got discriminate judged if you didn't do well in academics since as a little little kid like six years old well you gotta get all the A's you gotta the teachers have to love you you know this system pleasing and and of course that translated later on in life as a I was a prestigious physician at a prestigious you know institution all the things in academia and um to break away from all of that and say no but who am I? It's like I've been running my life in accordance to these limitations that are set by system and I'm really good at it, right? I'm good at meeting those criteria to buy them and I'm obviously checking all the boxes and much more but when it comes to showing myself then that's not appreciated. So breaking away from that and then having my own coaching practice and with medicines and all of that has been such a journey and it's been so challenging but so rewarding at the same time similarly to what you're doing it's just so cool to be tapped into that part of yourself and say ooh there's a whole world here that I can help people kind of turn to themselves and find themselves super satisfying really yeah it is it's so cool and it's so cool that you do it through people's animals. Like that is fantastic.

SPEAKER_00

Super fun.

SPEAKER_01

So cool and so when you go to the zoo because we were at the zoo yesterday with the family what happens there for you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah a couple things so we I've I've been to the zoo I don't know maybe definitely twice maybe three times since all of this has opened up right and actually actually let's start with the dolphin because the dolphin was sort of like the zoo but way a little more intimate. So we went to Mexico last July and uh it was in Cabo and we were doing all the touristy things my wife and I we haven't been out of the house in roughly three years right we didn't go anywhere didn't get on a plane because of COVID and now we're kids in candy store a scenario right like you do all the things have fun and and we're doing all the things and there's there was an opportunity to go swim with dolphins and they're they're they're in a big pool. It's like SeaWorld and I I have a mixed feeling about I never liked animals in cages and this is this is sort of the equivalent I and I had mixed feelings about that. And at the end of it we decide to go and there's a moment when we're having the event in the event and almost very similar to SeaWorld you know you have the tank here and then you have this little lip and the dolphins can come on top of it like it's like two inches of water and then they'll slide the back into the deeper water right and so they're on this little lip and there's the trainer at the head of the dolphin and then there's three people on the left three people on the right and uh I was at the the right hand side uh towards the tail and I thought well let me see if Liz is available to chat let me see if she wants to chat and so I I go find Liz and I get this overwhelming feeling of sad. And I think, of course, because you live in a tank obviously I mean that's obvious to anyone isn't it and that's my narrative that's not her narrative. And so part of this is not filling in your well of course this is happening because my baggage right that's not how this works right that's not the channel we were talking about. That is your garbage that was my garbage that I brought into the conversation and so I recognized what I was doing and then I asked cleanly well well why is that why do you feel sad? And what I got back was one word. It was family and then the connection was gone. Okay. So afterwards I said to my wife Hey Joel I I got to go validate some information. I want to go see something so I went to the trainers and I said had such a good time with Liz, had the dolphin and and I'd love to just learn a little bit more about her what's going on mom, dad, siblings anything? And they said well dad's not here anymore. Dad's off the planet okay yeah I don't think that's it. What what about mom or siblings? Oh no they're here. Well where are they? Well mom and her sibling are in the other tank. Well what do you mean they're in the other tank? Yeah they're in so that we have this tank here then right over there you see that line you see that yeah that coping? Yeah there's there's another tank over there and and so they've been in that tank. Yeah they've been in that tank for the last three years mom and sibling. Well why is that well because when Liz was two mom had another baby and Liz still wanted attention from mom and she was causing problems with the nursing with the new baby. So we took mom and the new baby and we put them in the other tank and that was three years ago and Liz was two. Mm-hmm and have they seen each other since no well that would explain sad and family.

SPEAKER_01

So that type of thing happens going to the zoo was that resolved was that something that they were going to consider it I mean so knows. Come on humans.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah right right right I mean no one's gonna go oh thanks for the information we're gonna resolve that problem when there's an actual problem right there was some type of disruption I get it like and I don't know what it looked like but I get the reason it's rational I understand and um I don't have a better solution really I don't but here's the information that I got but what did happen right so this was very frustrating for me. So a c a couple days later I'm waking up at like five o'clock in the morning the sun's coming up it's beautiful and I'm all by myself it's quiet. And I was like this sort of feels like a parlor trick to me. Like what I'm doing what I can hear and see and feel like it feels like a parlor trick. Like what's the point? What's the point? Right. And so I tune into Liz I was like let me see if I can find her and I I learned that it's easier what once I have an initial connection it's easier to make a second connection which just is for whatever reason. And so I I found Liz and you know it was very very low energy and I found her and I said I'm having these thoughts when I say I said it's it's it's all happening in my in my head I said you have a real opportunity to be the ambassador between humans and animals and that instead of being stuck in the sadness of family which is very real I don't want to you know diminish it. It's very real but you can be this ambassador and that could be that there's a purpose in there for you. And as soon as I thought the word purpose, I've heard about dolphin energy before but I never experienced it including when I was sitting next to her touching her. But when I said purpose I I felt what I could only describe as a reverse waterfall of energy just shooting upwards. And I thought that's the feeling of a happy energetic dolphin right there. She so purpose, which we can all identify with, change things at least in that moment, right? And and now she's a sentient being she gets to do and feel things as she wants to but there was a communication which made both of us feel made her feel better about her circumstances and made me feel better about you can call them my circumstances of this ability to talk to animals but what's the point? Well now now I know what the point is now now I know I can change things.

SPEAKER_01

Powerful. Yeah it's cool that's so cool that's so cool. Nick, where can people find you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah you can find me at nickmusica.com or if you prefer this will redirect there. Mycatschchooledme dot com that'll redirect to it and also on Instagram which is a building account MyCat SchooledMe is on Instagram if you want to find me there. I think there's all but three posts there but that's going to change very quickly. Yeah yeah love to chat with anyone about their animals if you're interested in developing your own intuition if that's a thing for you that's what I do for folks with folks.

SPEAKER_01

Beautiful thank you so much for showing up and sharing your wonderful story with us and um I feel the heart I feel how you're standing in your own light and it's wonderful. And it's thank you helping a lot of people and animals. Yeah I'm so excited for you. I'm excited that you're doing this and you've stepped in and you're like here it is you guys this is just what it is it's it yeah this is awesome. So so nice to meet you and connect with you and thank you for reaching out and and being on our show. Yeah maybe maybe we'll catch you when things are in a different place like in in a few months or next year or whatever. Reach out um if there's something you want to share with us and we'd love to have you back.

SPEAKER_00

I'd love to be back. Thank you so much.