EP 9: Lufthansa Disaster and How we cheated on Aviation!

Josh and Nick are back and we have a lot to share. We are currently in Atlanta after an 18-hour Amtrak track getting ready for the AvCon but Nick also shares his disastrous Lufthansa Allegris experience. Josh on the other hand just flew on the longest Flight on Earth from Singapore to New York. This Episode is a lot of fun!

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello and welcome back to the Swiss 001 and Josh Cahill show.

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 0:07

We're finally back in person.

SPEAKER_02 0:09

Yes, camera is rolling.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Reunited. Where are we, Josh? We are in Atlanta, Georgia, United States.

SPEAKER_02 0:18

Yeah, the weather is beautiful here.

SPEAKER_00 0:19

It's very famously known for hosting the uh Summer Olympics in 1996. Oh, great. Before you were way before you were born, right? Yeah. You can't remember them at all, can you?

SPEAKER_02 0:33

No, I don't really watch sports. I don't want to do them either.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

I mean, yeah. That's okay. But that's why you like But why we why are we in Atlanta? What are we doing here?

SPEAKER_02 0:41

So we're going to the AFCON uh this weekend. I don't know what what day is it again?

SPEAKER_00 0:46

I I think today's the 2nd of April.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

Yeah, no, but what day is that?

SPEAKER_00 0:49

Because I remember it because yesterday my feed was full of bad April Fool jokes. Yeah, yeah. Was that a favorite one that stood out for you?

SPEAKER_02 0:58

The airport, I think, of Stuttgart, they did uh April Fool's where they were you know hobby horsing? Hobby horsing. Hobby horsing.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

I've never heard of that. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:06

You live behind the the moon, don't you? I do live behind the. So the hobby horsing is when people pretend to have a horse and they just take a broomstick. Alright. And they ride on the broomstick and like go and like doing that's a trend. And they want to do like hobby piloting. They have like cardboard airplane that they jump around with and like jump through hoops. That is pretty cool. Yeah, no, it's not yeah, I don't know. So like yeah, everyone does April Fool's joke, but I'm so there's two that stood out for me yesterday. First of all, Ryanair. What is it? Have you seen Ryanair? The one where they wanted to be serious?

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Yeah, they said we're gonna scale down, we're gonna uh adopt a more serious approach in our uh social media strategy because they're they're ruthless. They grill people, they grill everyone. They're they have a fantastic social media team. And then obviously they posted it on the 30th of March. Yeah, yeah. And on the 1st of April I said, we're never gonna change.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

Why that what that was like a why did they do that early though? That confused me. They did it a day.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

I think that was a whole build-up to it. Oh you gotta take your I think you gotta take your April school to a new next level because it's every it's the same every year. Remember Eurowings when they dressed up as Ryanair? Yeah, that was funny. That was funny for Germans especially. And uh the second one that I found brilliant, absolutely fantastic, our friend Dom.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

Oh yeah, he did the Concord flight.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

He pretended to go on a Concord flight. Amazing. And the whole video, it was a good mix between AI and actually being inside a Concord. I have no idea what it was.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

I think there was like an open museum where you can actually sit down on the seat somewhere. Yeah, and that's what he did.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

And he made it, he made the video of it was really great flow. Yeah, you had the c background noises, background noises, and then he was Yeah, yeah, and then he was standing, and then he was standing at the terminal and you would see the Concorde at the gate as well, like great like CGI or AI, I don't know what uh how you would say how he did that. How you call it, but I thought it was a brilliant video. And Dom, we're gonna see him on Saturday at DDEFCON as well. Exactly. Uh really, really cool character from Scotland. Oh yeah. Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

We met him on the Global Airlines.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

And he was on the Global Airlines slide as well. Yeah, yeah. And we're gonna see him in June. He's coming to my birthday, big birthday party. I'm turning 40. Damn, I've revised it. Why am I admitting your to your age? That is that is like I was uh that was bad right now. I I'm turning 30. You're turning oh wait, you're turning 30, exactly. You're 29. And speaking still young and relevant. In decline, in decline, but but uh let's say I had I I'm uh I had my peak.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Yeah, but you you like you're a cheater. We're we're we're both cheaters. What who did we cheat on?

SPEAKER_00 3:40

I did ch cheat on my wife. No, of course not. I have never been married. I and you you and I we cheated on aviation. We cheated on aviation. We did take a train.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

We took a train and we did a video on it as well. We did a video on train and how was it? So, first of all, the Amtrak, right? It was the Amtrak train all the way from New York City to Atlanta. How long was the journey? 18 hours?

SPEAKER_00 4:05

18 hours.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

So, yeah, that that was interesting mainly because of all the things that I've heard before of Amtrak. Uh we have heard that they're super unreliable, they crash all the time.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

The stuff is very uh rude.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

Yeah, after all, they they they they share the railroad with the cargo companies, right? So the cargo trains they get priority. So all the time you have canceled trains, nothing really works. But uh our train was perfectly on time and we arrived on time this morning.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

I found it was really interesting. Look, so once in a while, I think train travel is very romantic, it is very comfortable, not in a like uh in a in a in a sexual way, if you know you know, because you have that grin on us. Don't get all excited. I didn't take that train with you because I like you. I wanted to take I wanted you to take a train.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Alright, we did not share a room. We did not share a room at a room ed.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

We're not sharing this room either. Yeah, and if we would, there wouldn't be nothing wrong in it. Just saying. Just saying. No homo. No homo. Funny, funny, funny, funny, very funny. Um but uh it was we arrived at Penn Station in New York. Yeah. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

Yeah, fantastic train station. Beautiful. It's a bit confusing because there's another train station also called Penn Station, which is in Newark, which is also very close to New York.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

That is right.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

And um But it was nice and I guess that must confuse people. Yeah, it's nice. No homeless people, no offended people.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

No, nothing, nothing, like no no gangs, no shooting.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Yeah, and I kind of missed that. I mean, we're from Germany. You're from Frankfurt. I'm from Frankfurt.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

Who anyone who has been to Frankfurt Airport knows that uh Frankfurt Airport is probably saying, probably it's all about Frankfurt. Terminal one Frankfurt. Terminal one. I'd have spotted homeless in Frankfurt at the airport as well. Nice and comfortable. I would probably do the same if I was homeless. If you just go to McDonald's. You move into the uh no, uh we we boarded the train. Uh we had the room at I think the train came right out of the 1960s, though.

SPEAKER_02 6:02

Yeah, it was kind of a cold war era. It was a really old plane. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

And the funny thing is, I don't know, people who are not plane, you just see I train. Yeah, train. See, I'm such an af geek. For me, it's hard to differentiate. However, you see you got into that cabin, it's a roomette, it's called. Oh, yeah.$600 when I it was$600 one way.$699, absolute bargain.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

Which is, by the way, like five times more expensive than a very spontaneous fight. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

Yeah. And uh you get into that room, and the first thing that stood out to me was that little potty you have in there. Yeah, like a little toilet. It's it's a little prison-esque. It it kind of like it's so strange. You get in there and you have that little corner where you have that little potty where you are supposed to have one number one and number two.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

And imagine, and those room ads are designed to share as well. Yeah, so imagine we would have shared that room at because you have an upper bank. There's an upper bunk.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

One bunk, and then there's another bunk. Upper bunk. That would be awkward.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

And then imagine that, like, oh, we had Mexican last night, and my tummy is funny. And what are you doing at circumstances? So, this is why I can like I'm teasing the video right now. So this is right now. We I've increased your video views on the Amtrak review uh by 50,000 right now. Because they want to see how you handle that situation.

SPEAKER_02 7:21

The thing is, um, I don't I've never really done trains that much, especially I've never been on a sleeper train either. And so I kind of started to see why people do it a little bit. You know, it's very comforting, it's very like, you know, you have like the train noises, it's a lot better than than the plane noises, and um the air inside, it's not that dry, high altitude air, but you've got the nice low altitude air you can watch out of the window as as the beautiful United States, you know, passes.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

And there's a massive train spotting, train aviation, train aviation, train interest community as well. As we love watching planes, there's people who love watching trains and like reviewing them as well. Yeah, so we we dove literally into another world, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

But it's like a big world of trans, like the neurodivergent transportation thing, you know, there's like bus spotters, car spotters.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

Tram. I was like, I remember being when I was in uni, I was in a on a tram in Melbourne, uh, and it was like two young boys. They looked like us being when we're young. The one was like chubby and the young the one was very skinny. And uh but they're thanks for pointing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's on camera, people can make their own judgment. However, they were like they were they were really cute because a tram no, not enough.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

You gotta explain yourself.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

Yeah, we gotta be careful nowadays, isn't it? Um but they were so cute because like there were trams passing by and one guy was oh, this was a bombardier C478. Wow, how they how come they operate online number 104? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, you know, it's so nerdy where people like they probably hit their classmates would beat the shit out of them because they're so nerdy. Yeah, but me as a nerd, like who was beaten in school because I was a nerd, and I saw that, I was like, this is the future. He's probably gonna become the uh the president of the Australian railway, whatever, because he's so passionate and this young age, and I love that.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

Yeah, I know that's really cool to see. Well, like what was like the craziest nerd hobby when I was young? No, but like that you can think of.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

General?

SPEAKER_02 9:20

Yeah, like I mean you mentioned bird watching, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:23

Bird watching, bird watching is I think that's no disrespect to bird watchers, but I s I uh I shared a cruise ship or an expedition ship uh for one month for bird watchers. To Tristan Nicona, right? Yeah, Tristan Nicunia likes how Georgia. And they would sit out they would stand outside the the in in Arctic, really cold conditions the entire day with massive uh cameras which you could use for uh plane spotting as well. Sure, sure. And they would just take I mean, great, I salute them for this part. I think this is all awesome, but they were not fun to talk to. They didn't want to get destructed. People make fun about me loving planes, I love it. I think it's cool, right? I make fun of of you, you make fun of me. Uh people think like, oh, why would he go to the airport spot, right? But they if you make fun of them, they didn't appreciate it at all.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

They were like very they were really offended by it.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

They had very thin feathers.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

Yeah, funny. Good one. So yeah, once again, like uh the the the train riding I kind of now get. It's very comforting, it's very it's very nice, but like the trains themselves it was kind of bad. Like the the ride was super shaky on there, like you wouldn't have expected that. Well you couldn't sleep well at all.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

I didn't sleep really well. This is the the difference when you take those Russian trains in Russia the trains are a lot bigger, right? So they don't have the same tracks as well. I think the tracks are wider as well. Okay, that's because um during uh before World War II, like armies were moved by trains, sure, yeah. So the whole uh military infrastructure was based on trains, moving troops and whatever, and they thought if the Germans have different tracks than the Russians, it will slow down their advance, right? So makes sense. And the thing funny thing is now when trains, I don't know what it's still happening, when trains back in the days would travel from like Poland to Moscow at the border between uh Poland and Belarus, for example, they lift here, yeah. They changed the they changed the the wheels and like all that. I don't know, there's probably a proper word for for it in train enthusiasts public. Yeah, but they lift up the uh the train that must be heavy as hell. Put them on the new on the new wheels and then uh they continue the journey. As I was once on a train from Milan to Sicily, Palermo, and that train goes on a ferry.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Yeah, it's crazy what it was out there in the world. But that was our training. Maybe maybe we can make some more train stuff. Yeah, you know, like we gotta see how the feedback goes.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Yeah, subscribe to our channels and you will not miss out. It was it was comedy as well, lots of comedy. Speaking of comedy, Lufthansa Allegris.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, we have this big US trip. We've first met in in in New York here, and of course, to come here, I took a flight on Lufthansa, but not any flight, the new Allegris, which is only out on a very small amount of the airplanes. Yeah, you know, it's it's you know, we talked about the Lufthansa problems and how long they took to actually come out now.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

I mean, it's an internal, like, an important part of your online identity as well. Lufthansa bashing. Ah, kinda, not really.

SPEAKER_02 12:31

Yeah, maybe. But like the thing is like, you know, uh, you know, we know about League's now. 2017, they wanted to make their own kind of cabin, crazy stuff, blah, blah, blah. They did a lot of like renderings, and yeah, nine years later, finally they fly it after tons of delays and nothing working, and they mean they have three different suppliers for one cabin. That's crazy. So you on your flight nothing worked. So, yeah, and yeah, so that was that was kind of like the the thing. Oh, I this took so long. Let's see, it should be amazing. The the the the Aligras cost$2.9 billion for Lufthansa to actually uh develop, which is an insane development cost. I mean, in my video I talked about the A320 that cost less to develop as a plane. So they could have just made a plane, but they know they'd build a cabin. So it must be amazing then. And I uh entered into the plane, and yeah, the cabin does look nice. I mean, you you flew the first class of a late.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

I was uh a couple of weeks ago, and I was actually, I have to say, um I kind of like you know, I was very critical of Lufthansa, and it's fair, you know, their whole nonsense from that five-star airline to to uh introducing a cabin that never existed, the delays, um, everything about the company buying all their competitors, putting the prices up, taking massive advantage of Lufthansa Berlin, city condors allowed to fly domestically, and like it's so so uh it's Lufthansa's a real bully. Yeah, that's a little bit of a bullet. So, but I am as a reviewer, you know, you step on every flight, you could scale back on your bias that you have, right? Everyone, but I went in there with a very open mind, and I was blown away by the experience. It was a great but it was a first class, the new Allegras. And apart, like besides the fact that it took forever to install them, even longer than the business class, I thought it was a fantastic product. Cool, and I was very satisfied as a customer, and they reached out to me because I said the uh first class terminal in Frankfurt felt like an absolute elitist club.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

Okay, I wasn't confident.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

No, I wasn't, I was actually dressed up for the occasion. Oh wow Munich was amazing, the first class terminal, and so was uh the flight. But in Frankfurt, um it was really poor. They didn't look after you, and it was maybe it was so bad because Munich was so good. But three days later, after I published the video, like Lufthansa always emailed me, uh already emailed me and say, Hey Josh. They never do that though, you know, really.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Yeah, but like maybe they care about some opinions and they wanted to have a time. This looks interesting because you posted this a few weeks ago.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

I just want to say they came uh it approached me in a nice way. They didn't want to sue me or anything. They said, Doc Josh, we appreciate it and we want your feedback to improve. Uh shout out Lufthansa. Maybe they've happened to be a good one.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

Shout out, shout out for that. You told me all these things, I watched all these things, and you said you even said to me, Hey, you know, be open-minded about this, go on the Allegris, try it out for yourself. It's actually pretty good. And that's exactly what how the approach of the video initially. Of course, and I I kind of made fun of the fact that it took them so long. But yeah, I went there expecting an amazing cabin. It was probably gonna be a boring video, but I entered in and uh something was a little bit off in my seat. One of the window blinds was down, which is normally not procedural, they're always up when you board the airplane. And uh I was like, alright, yeah, alright.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

And I have I've been out on some absolute fucked up airlines, and I've never seen that either.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Yeah, I've never seen that. This this by the way, I was boarding. Was it stuck? It was stuck or was that? Hold on, a brand new plane. It was two years old of a plane. 350, that's newer than my car. Yeah. Okay. So and um uh so yeah, the the the flight attendant uh told told me, hey, can you please open all the window blinds? And I tried. I tried, it was stuck closed. It could not open, it could not move as well.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

I thought it was like loose and it would just drop all the time.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

It was completely stuck, it was unim unmovable. And I said, Yeah, I said, no, I can't close it. I can't I can't open it. And she was like, All right, then you can't.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

You know what the red flag about this is though? Uh that the crew should know that it's in up. Yeah. For safety, safety awareness in a cabin. We talk about it. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

I never actually mentioned that in the no that that's actually a thought of the case.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

As a crew, you should be aware uh whether uh what what in what state your cabin is, and this is part of their checklist as well. So as a crew, and this is a safety hazard, you know, yeah, uh, you should be aware of this. And crew, you know, when you uh when you uh uh fold crew on service, they say, Oh no, we're here for your safety first.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

Yeah, that's funny, we're here for your safety, and then uh and then this is this is poor performance, right?

SPEAKER_00 16:50

We're gonna point this out.

SPEAKER_02 16:51

It's it's yeah, no, this is funny because at the departure she asked me to put it up and I said it doesn't work. And then on arrival, different cabin crew came up to me and told me to put up the the window blind. And I said again, that doesn't work. Absolutely. Um so yeah, that was interesting. It was interesting, like safety-wise, anyway, because you have to keep them open for departure and uh arrival and for taxi as well to get used to the outside light. Um, but I guess that's not on a minimum uh equipment list kind of thing. So yeah, probably it was safe. Um the airplane probably shouldn't have been grounded.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

But how many, how many, how many evacuations have we uh uh uh witnessed recently, you know, where you see people run out. Imagine it's a it's a night flight and you can't get adjusted, you know. Uh you have to be oh my orientation uh people make fun of it, but it is a crucial thing when it comes to evacuating.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

Um and the one that was right next to me was broken, the other one did work. Um, so I guess maybe the minimum equipment list is that you're supposed to have one window at least where I was just talking about. I don't know about the standard operations of Lufthansa. I don't think they're they were uh in any way maybe maybe this can lead to a huge scandal. Like maybe Lufthansa actually has this in their standard operations procedure that they can't fly or something like that. I mean they're gonna be. Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe maybe this will be a big scandal. This video, I just posted it. Um but yeah, anyway, so that was a just the the my problem was that it was annoying. I could not see. I could not see out of the window, although I had a window seat. Luckily, they had good um cameras. Um now uh yeah, as to the Lufthansa flight, it you know, it was a little bit of a whole disaster seat setups and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

You had to pay extra to get your seat as well, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Yeah, yeah. I mean it it's it's it's interesting. They have 13 different seat types.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

13.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

Which by the way, explains why it took so long for them to certify them.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

How many seats are there in total in the cabin?

SPEAKER_02 18:47

I have no idea. I don't know. I don't know how many they carry, but it's it's a loads of different things.

SPEAKER_00 18:51

I'm like 30 ish seats, yeah. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

13 different seat types.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

And some are massive in the middle, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:58

And then there's so and when you book the flight, you get to choose these options, which I think is a weird business thing. Like that maybe their idea was let's give the people choices, let's have them choose between the privacy seat and the extra sleep seat, the which by the way, all business the business sweet, which is like also they have more food apparently in the business wheat. And it's like and like a different wine selection, they have more wine selection, and there's also um the the uh the the uh XL seat that you mentioned. So there's just very different types of side. Yeah, so I when I disembark and they all cost a different amount of money. There's for example the ones in the business suite that's 500 euros for a seat reservation to pay for that, which is like sometimes even an upgrade from economy to business, you know what I mean? It's it's a bit weird and it's complicated, and I think it's kind of off-putting to customers, uh, because they add the customers don't really want to choose that much. Because how do you know which one you really want? Do I want the privacy? How different is the privacy from the classic or the extra long bed or the space bed or the suite? No one has an idea. So that's kind of that was kind of weird uh from the booking from the start. Uh but yeah, that so once again I expected the class, class as you say, class, uh class um from from from that flight. Um the in the flight entertainment, you have like one main big screen and one tab that you can put out, which I thought was kind of cool. But the problem was that their they made their screen incredibly glossy. Like I I showed you. I can you literally literally to make uh uh uh mirror selfies in those screens because they for some reason didn't pick matte like a matte screen. Is that normally you see matte screens being used? Generally, yeah, uh yeah because it's a smart idea, especially when the window blinds are up. Well, one of the window blinds are up, you know, it you have so much glaring light, and you don't want that to reflect, but it was genuinely a mirror. Um, and the problem was that the hardware and software were not necessarily. Yeah, I mean I I just did a flight uh from Cape Town on Condor uh earlier, and they have a great in-flight entertainment system in terms of like their hardware and software. It works very nice. Um, but this one was like was so bad, like the map was just laggy, the the apps would crash, and after two hours of flighting, my tablet actually crashed, and so I couldn't use it anymore. And that's like kind of weird. Spend so much money developing your own thing, and then you don't have the hardware or software to make up for it, and that's a bit of a shame because it looks nice. Wait, hold on. The seat looks really nice, the setup is really, really nice. You've got like the the two screens are a really cool idea. And there's more features, for example, uh the seating the heating and cooling features.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

Yeah, I've never knew that.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

It's funny because you flew first glass, that one has it as well. You have a seating cooling and heating as well as adjusting firmness of the cushion.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

Yeah, that's normal. I've seen that. That's uh the the the The firmness adjustment. It's been around for a long time. I don't know how much of a difference it makes, you know. But some people might like it. But like a cool like a heater or a cooling.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

But like the problem was it was broken. My heating and cooling was broken as well as the firmness adjustment. Yeah. At least the seat did move. So that was a good one. So you could go flat, right? You could move it. It was flat. So that was good.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

I mean, I don't really fly business how was how was how was the crew? How did she like the crew?

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Um I have one flight attendant. She was uh she was she was uh she was great, I think. I think she was cute. But like but the problem was that she forgot my full.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

She was cute, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

Yeah, no, but like in a like not in a weird way.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

She was like she was like, Oh she she sorry, okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

She was nice and um and yeah, but the problem was that she did forget my my lunch uh uh service. So like she she gave me appetizers and then she um she cleared after I finished the plate. She cleared that and then for half an hour nothing happens, for 45 minutes, nothing happens. And then after an hour, she takes away the the you know the the the the napkin in the cutlery. Tablecraft uh saying uh the like in a way of hey, the service is done. I'm like, oh, am I not getting the main course? Are you serious? Yeah, I'm not kind of kidding.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

Wow, that is bad. Yeah, that is that's really bad. That's really bad.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

I mean maybe I'm being a bit too nice, but uh like it was really like global airlines.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Yeah, I was gonna say, Global Global Airlines, they didn't forget about us, they were just really slow.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Yeah, and it didn't have like a plan of like it, but she skipped my seat on the service, which is interesting. Yeah, she did. Um she young? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Uh maybe she's new, maybe she's new.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Maybe yeah, she she she told me the seat kind of. She told me it's the first time on Allegras. So I kinda you know, I don't I don't really I it's it's not about the cabin crew, that's such a unique maybe there's like one bad cabin crew and she she ends up on your camera, and uh that's like unlucky of a case.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

I was kind of like with the whole filming thing with Lufthansa. Did you um did you tell them?

SPEAKER_02 24:03

I filmed secretly. I think she did notice though, but I I don't really film people because the video was not about people. The video was about Luftanza spending so much money on the seat and the product, it was about the product, not really about the people. I don't really get well that that was a bit of an embarrassing moment for her. She kind of realized I was filming, and then she realized, oh god, I get I didn't actually give him the food. And after one hour, he told me and yeah, so um that was that was a bit of a fail, epic fail. Another epic fail was the Wi-Fi not working.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Oh right, yeah. And so they were just like, come on. I had issues with that as well on my flight. Yeah, um, okay, but to their rescue, it didn't work in the beginning, it wouldn't work the first two hours because you were giving out vouchers and stuff, and then and then uh I told her, like, but the Wi-Fi is not working, right? And I think she kind of must have heard it from the back cabin. But you know, sometimes it's a pain to like I'm assuming she might be like, okay, if if the economy class passenger tells me that Wi-Fi is not working, whatever, and then and then but it oh now this flight review is on board, and he asked me why the why did I get a voucher and the flight uh the internet wasn't working. So she said she spent an hour talking to Frankfurt back and forth uh to get it fixed. Maybe she had Wi-Fi, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

That was uh to rescue your Wi-Fi or something.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

Interesting, yeah. I don't know what they could probably could be. I'm not uh I don't know the tech part of all this, but she was in contact with Frankfurt. She said back and forth, and she tried she said like it took me three hours to fix and then it worked.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

So she she just unplugged the road. I don't know. Maybe they just said like this. Turn it off and on again. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Maybe she put it in rice. I would say, but like uh on on 80% of the no on 20% of the flights I have, sometimes the Wi-Fi doesn't work.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

Sometimes over certain areas for sure.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

But sometimes completely not what's but yeah, so this one did not work. Still something that is challenging for airlines. I guess unless you have Starlink.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

Maybe start yeah, Starlink is gonna change that part. Starlink is yeah, that was a bit annoying. I was like, come on, this is like industry standard, you know, uh to have like Wi-Fi that works to even message people, and people were waiting for a message back. Hey, I'm gonna text you after departure.

SPEAKER_00 26:17

But this is the world that we live in. I don't care what you think, you should be you have some 10 hours offline time and it's great, don't be addicted to internet. Totally cool if you have that stance, right? But we live in a world where the flyer needs like the business flyer what wants to be connected, he wants to take care of emails, and some companies even expect you to work on your flight.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

They say, Okay, this is working time for you, you get paid for it, but from four to eight on your flight, you are here to respond to emails, or you need to be in contact with the no, you're that's actually a good reasoning. And look, and this is what I pay money for as well. This is the experience that is being sold to me. It's a business, business class. I'm not here to to it's not like the casting spore sleep's money goes to charity. Yeah. He I think he goes home with uh six figures at least at minimum a month. I'm sure he pays a month, yeah, probably as well. And he pays, he gets paid out a big bonus by the end of the year. Um and it's not like this that it goes to charity.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

No, that's true. They're not McDonald's. Ronald McDonald charity.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

Yeah, you can round.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

We were at McDonald's early, we were doing it.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

I didn't donate it 53 cents. I would still donate a lot of money. Like that is like butt yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

No, but like yeah, you're you're right. Um, and then that's it's a bit of a shame, you know, because Allegras has a how the seat looks, and how you sit down and and how everything that it's it's a nice it's it's it looks nice, but that was just so weird.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

There's a lot of people in in my audience occasionally uh they act like that you they should get you from A to B and it's a state sponsored and uh I paid 1500 euros just to get to to to New York on that single flight. If they say if they say hey, the ticket price is just to get you from A to B, that's fine. A so beard, cool.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Like Reiner. Yeah, yeah. Reiner marketing is A to B. Lufthansa marketing is not just A to B, but this was kind of just A to B.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

So But they are like they offer you anything non-stop. Yeah, Lufthansa are non-stop amazing, non-stop internet, yeah, non-stop Allegras, non-stop Dan. And put money in here and we give you an experience. You buy it. This is I this is me. If I hire you as a Donald Trump impersonator, I want you to be good, right? At a at being Donald Trump impersonator, and it's just me, it's just you showing up dressed up at Donald Trump, but you don't give me you don't give me the act.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

That's actually that's an incredibly good analogy. Uh yeah, so that that was a bit of a shame. Once again, I mean I'm like, I was maybe was unlucky. If I set a row behind, the window would have opened. Yeah, but it didn't.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

Uh and as I said, they're business, as I am a business, yeah, right, and we provide like for my patrons when my patrons sign up and I say, hey, they get a key ring, and I don't send them the key ring. Shit, right?

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Or if we upload a bad video, it's a bad video.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

Yeah, okay. No, that's I think this is different because we pay a lot of money to provide entertainment for free to people.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Well, the video was entertaining about the video.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

Oh, 100%, 100%. Yeah, it's great, it's entertaining, but like, I mean, this is also what people misunderstand. I pay a lot of money so you can watch for free. Yeah, yeah. It's not like Netflix.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

Yeah, I would I would never have booked this flight if I weren't to make a video. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

But like we invest a lot of money to provide entertainment to those guys, and those guys are amazing, we love them, right? But we do that. This is the privilege isn't that like it's pretty uh people need to see our side as well. Like, how much money do I spend on like my flights or my video production or like those stuff?

SPEAKER_02 29:49

Well, definitely, I mean something that people think about you maybe, and maybe about this video with Lutanza is okay, he goes on this flight and tries to make this video as viral as possible, try to find problems. But it's not true. With this flight to with uh leaguers, I I didn't pick this seat because because the window was the problems came to me in the video automatically. I didn't tell the flight attendant to not give me the food.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

It's such a shallow thing to say anyway. Yeah, yeah. Why would you why would you go? Why do you want things uh uh why would you want things to go viral? It makes no sense. True.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

I mean as understanding. You want it to perform, you want it to perform. You want to make a great video, yeah. If you make a great video, the league is great.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Yeah, yeah, no, of course, but like going viral is a big headache. It takes a toll on you because like all the weirdos, all the hate comes and stuff like that. And you're not making people think you make money when a video goes viral. It's not like that, it's not that simple, right? It depends where it goes viral, how it goes viral. And people think, oh, this video goes viral, and all of a sudden he made himself$200,000. Yeah, it's not we're talking about, and we can be open here, we talk about it an extra thousand or two thousand dollars or whatever. Like it's not like that you become rich going viral. And being viral is not something that it's not worth it. It's not worth it. I don't want to go viral for good reasons or whatever, like my cutoffing or uh Lux Air and stuff like that, where you know you have changed a lot of things behind the scenes. This is what I like. Like, I don't really I don't care about the money, I care about the changes that they're not introduced because of the videos dynamic.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

You've made a big impact, and yeah, and maybe maybe someone from Lutanza sees this and and and uh I didn't mention this fact about the Allegris uh flight attendant flying Allegris for the first time. She did, which is by the way, I mean, yeah, it's a very like cornered cabin. It's very complicated, even to like just look around, it's even almost complicated to find your seat. Um almost like a labyrinth, right? Um and uh may maybe maybe they can look out for better training on Allegris so they they make sure that the flight attendants know what what Allegris is all about.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

Or they at least know why has this window shade been stuck for so long.

SPEAKER_02 31:59

Why didn't the flight attendant know about it? Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

No, but this is this is how we go. As a cabin manager or as a cabin crew, you should be 100% aware of what's going on in the cabin. Yeah, where are the hazards, where are the possible hazards?

SPEAKER_02 32:11

I think a good airline would have gone up to you and said, We're so sorry, but uh it turns out your window is broken before I noticed.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Absolutely, absolutely how how am I the one figuring out how the airplane is broken? And this is not even being picky or anything like this. This is a service. This is this is the service, right?

SPEAKER_02 32:26

Service of safety.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Yeah, safety, and uh you respect your customer.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

Yeah, yeah. Right? I mean, I know, I mean, I I I know about the Airbus um A350 window blinds, they're apparently quite complicated. As every window blind's about.

SPEAKER_00 32:37

But I had a thousand flights and never had any. Like I've seen it.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

It was weird to see, but um I think some people would have like tried to like really like you know, or would have just broken it even more without knowing that it was broke.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

I don't know. How about the like no like there's sometimes business class seats that only have one window? Yeah. Now imagine it's you can't watch out of the window, and this is something that you love doing. And there's something you pay extra for. And there's a lot of people who get very uncomfortable if they don't see the outside. They're anxious flyers, and now imagine you're an anxious flyer, you sit at this window, all those kind of scenarios you have to cater for everyone uh at one point, not in an overly way to discriminate others, but like say say, Oh, there's an anxious flyer, you can't open this window, that's an issue for him, you know. So that's what I said. Like as a c as a as a name was annoying, I wanted to film. Yeah, of course, of course it's annoying. And I and I was seeing a good window.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Actually, the only open window was right here, so I have to like banning awkwardly, right? And that was that I I couldn't film uh I I had to use the camera system. So yeah, that's that was a bit of a shame. It's like I I I kind of like had the analogy of imagine you plan the perfect wedding with your dream wife and spend so much money on it for so long, and then on the wedding day it rains. It's it's a little bit alarming that such a new cabin with such a new airplane, state-of-the-art Airbus A350, can be so broken on so many levels with a seat not working, with a window blind uh not working, that like it ages extremely poorly, or maybe I don't I I don't know what was up.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

Um from a country that once stood for quality for incredible engineering made in Germany. We invented a plane, more or less.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

Or the fact that they have like these headphones, they're made out of metal. And the problem is they they they really collect scratches. So even on this brand new business, that they were kind of almost like they were so scratched and so like uh dented up that I know like they're gonna have to replace these headphones every year. You know, that's that's annoying. I don't know what they were thinking when they put that together, but I think this is also I think I I think they did a good kind of a good job with the action with the intention of the product and how it's how the concept is.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

Maybe that's the modern flyer, the modern business flyer. I'm not a business flyer, right? I fly business um in order to highlight a product. I like it more from the enjoyable part. For me, it's more of an entertainment, it's a feel-good experience. Yeah, but the business flyer in the North Atlantic market is 90% business flyers, I would say, right? And they want they want the product to function and they have certain ideas that they like, right? And this is probably what they cater to. I don't know, I wasn't sitting there when Mr. Carsten, the one and only sport. I heard he's a quite of a character. Um, I've heard funny stories about him. But uh more like he's very German. Oh did you hear about that? He had that one fan who had like a uh a figure, like uh shaped like you know, like uh a silhouette of him where he had like a big photo and he was like traveling with him, and he was such a big uh costume spore fan that he wanted it to be signed, and and Cost and freaked out so much that instead of that's kind of understandable, guys. As a super fan, he was like a super fan, he had a big cutout of uh of the CEO of Lufthansa, and he wanted to have it signed and like he freaked out so much that he banned him. Banned him? Yeah, funny. Maybe he was just an innocent super fan. He went to the city.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Well, I'm gonna fly Lufthansa back home. I I sure hope they're not gonna they're the economy. Economy, right. But the old one as well. The old ones.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

Are you flying straight to Frankfurt, right? Yeah, yeah. Which plane isn't?

SPEAKER_02 36:26

Uh I think it's 787. Oh, the Dreamliner. The Dreamliner.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

But they're not old.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

No, they're not, but the cabins are old. They're still the old cards.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

Depends which one they have.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

If they have it's not it's not the Legus one.

SPEAKER_00 36:37

No, but they have the Hainan Airlines cabin because those planes were originally delivered or bent for Hainan Airlines.

SPEAKER_03 36:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

Um, and they have in business they have the reversed herringbone, but they obviously um refurbishing them as well to a legacy. But they have a decent product on there, not like the 747 or the 340 cabins that you might know. But it's not too but then once it gets like a hybrid product, they had to get what they could because they had the sort shortage and they couldn't do the first clip. Like, so usually what happens when an airline uh has financial struggle and they don't want to take delivery of a plane, then what they do is the salesman he opens his book and he looks like who's stupid enough to take this plane, take this plane, and then they go, Hey Carsten! Hey Carsten, my point, how are you? How are you? And then he said, like, I have the 787. I know that you're short on planes, I know that your uh uh 35 340s or whatever are uh like on the ground and you're still waiting for the 777 to the breeze. I'm giving you this D. I give you I give you Dreamliner, I give you two, you pay one. And then Carsten will be like, What's the what's the what's the hook? Where's the problem here? And and and then he says, Well, they have already the Heinan Airlines cabin installed. But Carsten, you know what? Your business class sucks. Your 222 configuration.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

232. No, on the 74s, 232.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

Yeah, but on the on the on the 340s, right? Or the 330s. And he said, like, Carsten, look, they make fun of you. I've watched this video. The guy said, like, this is not a five-star airline. So we give you something in between, a bit of a hybrid product, and you get your planes, and you get two, and you pay just for one. How about that? Carsten says, All right, let's do it. Let's he open the checkbook and then he assigns it, and then that's how it works. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been uh I at the Paris Air Show, I met some brokers like who sell planes, and uh they always say like the listing prizes are never they never get achieved, right? You get always a good deal. Everything is a deal. Even the 737 Max, when they after they were re-certified, certified, they were selling like hot buns because you airlines would get Reiner that got the 737 800s really cheap after 9-11.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Yeah, yeah. That was a great, great deal for them. Yeah, um, but yeah, so that was that. Lufthansa Allegris. I don't know if I can I don't the thing is like this was like a one-time thing, a bit of a warning of hey, this is plane is new and it's already kind of broken. Uh oh uh oh, how will this go? Kind of thing, but not a thing of I would never recommend this. It was I think it could have been a great flight, it could have been a great product, but so many things being broken and so many things not working, that was a little bit alarming. Anyway, talking about flying, which we sometimes do, you did a flight that was very special to New York as well, where we met.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

A couple of them not even there before. Um it's funny how you read my mind, because I was just thinking about oh, we should talk about this as well. So there's there's two flights that are the longest in the world, right? There is uh China Eastern, okay, 29 hours with why uh from Buenos Aires, Auckland, and Shanghai, where you are in the same plane, you just have that short one-hour stop in Auckland, and then there's the longest non-stop flight in the world, 18 hours from Singapore to New York. As long as our train journey. That's crazy, right? So I did both. I did the first one in economy, like the um the on a 777 China Eastern, and it wasn't actually too bad. 14 hours, and it's also one of the most isolated flights in the world because there's not much traffic. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

Is it through the Pacific?

SPEAKER_00 40:24

Yeah, Pacific, really close to the uh Antarctica as well.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

Is that Point Nemo?

SPEAKER_00 40:30

I don't know. I think very close to Point Nemo, actually. Which is by the way I think further south of Point Nemo. So that all worked out 14 hours, 14 hours, and then you land in uh in Auckland, and you'd be like, Oh cool, like I can get a coffee or something. Or so all you do is you get off the plane, yeah, you go to security check, and you go back on the plane. Why? I don't know why. There's no shops. There is shops. You can if you're very quick, you can grab something, but literally you go through security. Have because like because you're transit passengers, so you go from the lower deck, no, and then you have departure usually on the upper decks. Uh that depends on the on the airport. You go through like transit security check and you go back on the pine pretty much. Yeah, so you go for another 14 hours to Shanghai. Who does that? Yeah, chopless aviation YouTubers like me. Fair enough. Yeah, but it was good. They feed you, they feed you like twice in those 14 hours. Um feed you. Yeah, they feed you, and uh then you have that stupid Chinese internet that where literally everything's blocked.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

You have to use Nord VPN?

SPEAKER_00 41:36

No, no, VPN doesn't even work, like Surfshark VPN usually. Uh that does work. Uh no, it doesn't work because the internet's a bit spotty and whatever. Okay. But uh besides that, it wasn't a good flight, it was interesting. And now I can say I've been on the longest flight with a stop. And the longest flight without one. Yeah, and then I uh flew the 747 as well. So I flew the 747 domestically from Shanghai to Beijing on Air China, 747, 400. 400.

SPEAKER_02 42:05

Air Korea has the eight, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:08

No, uh Korean air, I thought you said North Korea Koreo Air, you know, they have the Yushins. Uh and that was the same plane. My apologies. That was the same plane, speaking of North Korea, that uh Kim Jong-un used to fly to Singapore for that or Vietnam for that summit he had with with uh Trump. Oh cool so he probably called his friend Xi Jingping, the president of China, and said, Hey, I can't fly to the summit with my Iushin 62, which is a great plane. Do you know the Yushin 62 as an API?

SPEAKER_02 42:40

Well, they they have better ones, they have the Drupal F21 uh 2104. Yeah, but there's a the 757 fake 757, I think that's the one he mainly uses.

SPEAKER_00 42:48

Yeah, yeah, that's oh that's the 204. Yeah, I've been on that one. Yeah, um, but then there was the the Iushin 62, is the one that has the quad engine on the back, on the tail beautiful plane.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

Sounds like a great plane, yeah. There's one in Germany in the middle of nowhere parked because because someone landed it there, because that's where uh flying was born with Autolanium Tal. It's like in the middle of nowhere, they just flew it into a grass field and that just stands there. Um, but yeah, so after that, after the longest flight in the world with a stop, you did the non-stop flight on Singapore. Singapore Airlines on the A350 ULR. Tell us a little bit about the ultra-long range of an A350. I mean the A350 is already ultra long range.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

Yeah, how do you make it more ultra long range? I wonder whether I think the only difference is that it has bigger tanks. Yeah. So somehow this is the same with the XLR. I think there's just bigger tanks on there, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 43:44

I actually don't know, but there's a big difference in the cabin. Like the cabin is not the usual cabin on that plane. What is it like?

SPEAKER_00 43:51

Oh yeah. So obviously in order to go distance you gotta reduce weight. Yep. And less people means Less weight. Wait, uh less weight, exactly. But it means also less money. Yeah, sure. But uh so this plane has only business class and premium economy. Yeah. There's no standard economy class on this flight. It's 18 hours non-stop. And the funny thing is the last three rows, because those a bit wider, those premium economy class seats. So uh instead of having the two four two configuration that they have there, they have it narrows down to one, three, one. You have three solo seats in the back, and next to you, because you could squeeze in one and a half seats, right? But obviously, they think like, oh, what are we gonna do with this extra space? So to the right of you, you have a massive box where you can put your carry on it. It's like massive, it's so cool, and when you close it, it's just extra surface, right? Yeah, you can put like a computer on there, you can put stuff on there. Your arm. It's you might yeah, if you have a long arm. Oh, so it's like not attached. No, it is attached, but like it just would be awkward. That's why you mean you have an arm. Normal people use armrests, right? But yeah, you have this box. Uh great flight, nonetheless. Like the thing is once you check in with uh your Singapore Airlines flight, you can pick your meals. And there's a long list, it's not like oh, you can pick a kosher halal or uh whatever meal, vegan, vegan, your vegan uh non-stop meal or whatever. Uh, you can uh just pick like it's a whole menu, right? So I picked business class, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I picked a beefsteak for my first meal, and then for the second, I picked a local pork uh pork noodle dish from Singapore. Cool. Delicious. I destroyed it. There was nothing left on the plate, it was so good. And I really enjoyed it. And now when I think in retro perspective, the train journey was 18 hours, the flight was 18 hours, the train journey felt a lot longer.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

Oh, yeah, really interesting.

SPEAKER_00 46:05

Yeah, if you have internet on that 18-hour flight, I think on the M track yesterday, the internet was like, Yeah, the wife was broken as well.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

And like the problem with like the eSIMs is that they're really slow in the US, I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

And sometimes you are in the middle of nowhere and you just don't have connection. That's what trains do, and sometimes they go through the role parts. And I but the the flight was cool. I landed at JFK, and as usual, I you you like a hot knife through butter was your immigration experience, right?

SPEAKER_02 46:35

Yeah, mine was great. Yeah, I was I mean, uh we were one of the first like international arrivals on that day. Yeah. Um I think that's interesting. Like people wonder about that, I guess, with the US is a big mysterium right now with all the media making a big fuss. Uh, all the lines you have to wait a long time at airports. So I was the first one uh to of course immigration officers on the first in the business class. And uh so we they were they just opened for us. I was kind of like first in line, yeah, no problem at all. Like that was a 30-second immigration. You stood there for like an hour though at Terminal 4, JFK, took a bit longer.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

Terminal 4, and I mean immigration is not affected by the budget.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

I mean, it's always been a long way.

SPEAKER_00 47:15

Yeah, like sometimes I once arrived at Terminal 7, JFK, for Kuwait Airways, and Terminal 7 is very small. Yeah, I was literally and I was flying business, so I was out of the cabin first because usually when I travel and I'm in an economy, I always like to sit in the very back of the cabin, right? Just because I can film the entire cabin when I board and stuff like that, and you have a couple of more minutes to do your intro, and you don't make it awkward, you don't have to film next to someone, so you have that privacy for a couple of minutes. Uh, but then when you get to your disembark uh to your destination and you disembark, you're the last, and there's 200 people at immigration in front of you or ahead of you. Uh so I got there, waited an hour, and then usually immigration in America finds very easy for me. Yeah, yeah, they never ask hard, like they mean to ask her question, but they're usually very nice.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Yeah, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Never had an issue, and then you get there by the time, and your luggage is already there.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

Yeah, that's it's actually not that bad of timing. Sometimes you wait for luggage anyway. So it it works out okay. I think the TSA lines, I saw a TSA line that's extra was extremely long.

SPEAKER_00 48:19

And then we went uh so Nick waited for me at uh at uh the airport, which was too sweet of you for that four hours. Yeah, wait for the five. Sometimes, sometimes I've I I like the other day I drove to Frankfurt because I thought we record a podcast, and on his way he said, Oh, actually, I forgot I'm flying to South Africa tomorrow. So this is the kind of guy he is sometimes. I love him to bits, but he can be a mess when it comes to um these kind of things. Um, but he waited for me. He felt like he has to make up for it, right?

SPEAKER_02 48:46

Yeah, yeah, no, no, I waited for you at Terminal 4. What's interesting about all these United States stations, whether it's train or uh airport, have you noticed that there's no benches anywhere at the train station? There were no benches. Do you see any benches?

SPEAKER_00 48:59

You know what I mean? Yeah, that could either be you don't want people to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_02 49:02

You know, I mean everyone was like sitting on the ground. There were no no place to sit down. Yeah, uh same thing with the airport terminal four, there were just like a few little seats. I did I I I led I lied out on the floor and had a massive headache. I never played.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

Yeah, I never never never paid that much attention. But you picked me up, we went to the hotel, and um you had so you were very hungry for burger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We went to uh bearback burger. It was called bearback. It was very funny. We walked in there and then so the funny is bearback or is like a term in the in the in the gay scene as well. And then we ended up in front of the burger place, and there were so many LGBT flags that we weren't sure whether it was a gay bar or not. No, it was just a normal burger place with a bit of a lot of LGBT flags, and then it says bear back burger, and she's gonna be a bigger one. No, it was called bear burger. That's funny. I thought it was bareback burger. Anyways, anyways, there was like so many LGBT flags, and we were like, okay, maybe it's a gay bar, maybe we should not go inside. Maybe we were uncomfortable. But hey, talk about like this is this is what you do on podcasts. You share your feelings and you talk about it. It was very funny. It would have been free drinks, it would be free drinks, yeah. It's like, hey handsome, how are you? Um, and then we had uh amazing Chinese.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

We went to you didn't want to go into bearing.

SPEAKER_00 50:21

And you should have seen him, yeah. We were so afraid of uh not that we were like like our best.

SPEAKER_02 50:26

No, but we went to Chinese place, Chinese was great. Um, and uh there would be LGBT occasionally love you guys. Yeah, yeah, you just got yourself into massive trouble.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Nah, that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 50:35

No, but no, uh yeah, we went to this beautiful Chinese place, and there would we were only white people here, which is an amazing time.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

And I lived in Asia for all my life, so I'm uh I'm the Kung Fu Panda when it comes with two chopsticks. Right? Say yes. For those that don't watch the video, I did just like I acted like a Kung Fu panda. Okay. So and I had to teach him how to eat uh Chong Lang Bao or uh dumplings. Yeah, um he did uh a terrible job. Um it was good, it was a great experience.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

It wasn't even my first dumplings ever. I don't know why I messed up that. Do you eat a lot of Asian food? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

Like, what's your favorite cuisine? I do like Thai.

SPEAKER_02 51:17

You don't like Thai? I don't like yeah, Thai is the one that's weird.

SPEAKER_00 51:20

I love Korean, I love uh Chicago.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

Korean fried chicken is good. Chinese.

SPEAKER_00 51:24

Yeah, no, no, I love Korean Korean barbecue, it's amazing when you get a bottle of soju. We should go in Frankfurt. We should actually, when we have our next podcast and I come to Frankfurt, afterwards we should get like really drunk on soju. Have like the proper Korean barbecue.

SPEAKER_02 51:38

You don't drink, you just I barely ever drink. You don't drink, he doesn't drink, he's boring.

SPEAKER_00 51:42

Yeah, but like I there I make exceptions once in a while. So I think we should have um Korean barbie. I get soju bottles also for my birthday.

SPEAKER_02 51:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:52

Yeah. You're coming, right? I'm coming.

SPEAKER_02 51:54

I got it in my calendar, it's gonna be a great big party. Do we have a DJ yet?

SPEAKER_00 51:58

Yeah, we do have a DJ, but I still have to find someone who plays Gigi Argust Agostino at like 1 a.m. So I have to find someone. That's only funny if you're German, right? Did you think it was funny?

SPEAKER_02 52:10

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:12

I just don't want you to get in trouble. No, nobody gets into trouble. Do you don't like Gigi Argust Agostino? Great music, great beat. Yeah. Uh jokes aside, uh, I thought like you only turn 40 once in your lifetime. I forget about that somehow. Sorry, I I never celebrate my birthday. I hate being the center of the body.

SPEAKER_02 52:35

You're like a butt naked birthday ninja, as I call it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 52:38

Ninja. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_02 52:40

Yeah, yeah, you want to not be in the spotlight of birthday ism.

SPEAKER_00 52:44

I yeah, I never like I don't like it. It's awkward for me. And I feel like that's the problem. So this is gonna be really hard for me when the birthday is there. I feel like I have to look after everyone.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

You know, I feel like the organizing thing is organizing and I hate then when I mean it's like what? It's like three months in advance. That doesn't bother.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

That doesn't bother me. Like, but when I come there, I want my my friends to be catered, I want them to have a great time. Otherwise, we're gonna make a bad birthday review video. Yeah, that no, and that's the thing like a five-star birthday party, and then for this, I know you when you're drunk, you probably pick up the video and you sing a happy birthday and you make it all about me for 10 seconds, and it's just really awkward. I don't like the spotlight. It's funny though, right? I'm like, my job is all about like the camera, but it doesn't feel like you are in front of an audience, right? So AFCON for me is gonna be really hard as well.

SPEAKER_02 53:35

I think birthdays is like uh sometimes you ask yourself, I didn't really earn this now. Why why is everybody cheering for me? I haven't done nothing other than exist. So, like, but do you for example, do you feel better when you achieve like an award or something when you get an older?

SPEAKER_00 53:50

No, no, no. I don't know what makes me know what makes me like I don't know what gives me happiness being around my friends, you know, and I see them barely ever. And when I see them, like right, I thought like 40 is a great opportunity to get them all together and just have a good time. Because ever since my dad's around birthday. Yeah, ever since my dad passed away, I'm like, you know, I gotta live more consciously, I gotta make more memories, I gotta create more because my dad still had so much he wanted to do, and then bum life ends like this, and he he died like surprisingly. He wasn't he was he was fit in the morning, and by the end of the day, he was dead. And these kind of things can happen. And I remember he had a big 40 at party as well, and he was like 40 years, big party, same spot, and he had a good time. And I was like, you know, when I when do I ever get the chance to get you guys all together? And I love you guys to bits, and like it's great. It's you're gonna be there, Rowan. That they know from my videos, other friends like Dom, um, family, and like and can we have anything?

SPEAKER_02 54:53

Can I bring a plus one?

SPEAKER_00 54:54

You can bring your boyfriend, yes, absolutely. Sam's Sam, yes, if he wants to come. Like, I would I wouldn't mind. I would I don't have a problem. I would love to actually sit with him, have a beer, and like talk about our differences. Yeah, um, but I don't think he wants to do that. But I'm open if he listens to me. Hey Sam, we can always we can always uh go and get some Korean barbecue and talk about life. Um, I'm the last person to uh deny this uh request, but no, I'm sure it's gonna be great birthday party, and you know, it's about the memories that you create and not about I don't want to have any gifts, I don't want to have presents, I don't want you to be awkward at 1 a.m. and sing weird songs to me. Which occasionally I have these kind of friends who do probably gonna do weird stuff, and uh I'm not one of them. And this is for me, this is really awkward. I hate these kind of moments, you know. You know what I am when I'm next to you, and you you're much more outgoing when it comes to filming, you are much more attention drawing because you're very loud, you're you you you cease the moment, and sometimes I'm like, oh god, no, I don't want to be like outed now as a as a vlogger or youtuber. So I'm much more I don't do how you're very loud, yeah, yeah. I am loud, but not in a way of you don't have you don't you don't know you're not shy, right? If somebody is around you, you're not shy to like film, right? I am very shy.

SPEAKER_02 56:09

You're wait, no, no, no, it's other way around. I'm super shy filming.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

No, you you can get your camera out everywhere. There can be people sitting next to you and you can vlog. I could not do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, have I ever done that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we did the easy jet review as well, and you like Oh, that was a big camera, yeah. Yeah, like sometimes, and this is that I don't have that confidence, especially in the Western culture, because it's still a bit like in Asia, it's not a problem, right? They have a camera culture, and vlogging and filming and taking selfies is very normal. But yeah, when I'm in the West, I'm a bit more considerate because uh people get like it's I I feel uncomfortable, like let's say it that way.

SPEAKER_02 56:47

At some point I can I understand. I mean, there's so much. I film with an iPhone, which is actually like it's that's then incredible, like that is very noticeable.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

I don't say it's bad, you have just an amazing confidence that I don't have. And I think that incredible. I think that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 57:01

I just don't want people to feel like I'm filming them because I'm not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, like, I don't want to like sound seem like a creep, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:09

And that is where like but everyone is different, like everyone has a different approach, and like for me, it's always been ah, I come from this, that's the way I was raised, and like um, but it's been it's been it's been good stuff, yeah. So, but um yeah, very much looking forward to uh celebrating another birthday. I don't know how I feel about turning 40 though.

SPEAKER_01 57:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:30

I don't look like 40, I look like 29, right? Yeah, you do. Yeah, I know. I look very younger.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

You look you look 10 years younger. I mean, I wonder, did you look 10 at 20?

SPEAKER_00 57:38

Yeah, but like I hated it when I was like 16. You know, when you get 16, it's the first time where you feel like you're a bit of an adult. You're a bit of an adult. You can go to the supermarket and you can buy a beer.

SPEAKER_02 57:47

Yeah, you could.

SPEAKER_00 57:48

And but you get your you get your ID card with 16 as well, and then I was like the first time I looked like 12 when I was 16, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 57:56

For me, it's the opposite. For me, I've I I look extremely old. Like, for example, even in the US, I'm I'm now 21. I get I I get no ID. I have never been ID'd in the US.

SPEAKER_00 58:05

That's pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_02 58:06

They never asked me for any ID. Do I look I mean maybe it's the hairline that's received, it's all the stress of you doing.

SPEAKER_00 58:12

You do look, you have a proper beard. I still can't grow a proper beard. I think that's part of my like DNA as well. Like uh when I'm in Asia, no whenever if I say I'm 39, they think I'm joking. Like they look and they say, No, you 29 max. And I was like, Oh cool, this is why I moved to Asia because I get a compliment. But um, what I was gonna say, Peter Pan. Peter Pan, uh, and never never grow up, right? Does he does he refuse to grow up or is he actually not growing up?

SPEAKER_02 58:40

I think he's not accepting it. I've never watched the movie.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Yeah, I love Peter like Hook was actually one of the first movies I watched in uh cinema. I loved it. I love the end battle. I love it, I love the soundtrack, and I love when the lost boys come together and they invade the pirate ship. It's one of still the music is really nice. It's Peter Pan, and then they then then like Lost Boys, and then they attack Captain Hook. I think is one of the most beautiful. I've still sometimes rewatched those scenes.

SPEAKER_02 59:08

What do you have planned for your four like like 40s?

SPEAKER_00 59:13

I don't have any goals. I feel like I've achieved most of the stuff that I wanted to achieve in my life. Matter like uh like materialistically I've never been materialistic, like um that doesn't matter too much. What do you mean? Like what have you achieved? I wanted to visit every continent, right?

SPEAKER_02 59:30

That's kind of like materialistic, you know.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

Is that materialistic? I think it's more about the experience, I think it's a bit more about the experience. So I wanted to experience every continent on Earth, Antarctica, especially. So But you can you can buy that. There are certain things you cannot buy though, yeah. Of course, but like I mean, okay, everything is somehow a bit related to money. Um yeah, but I wanted to visit like when I was really young, the first really country, I always wanted to visit with Russia. I always wanted to go to Moscow. I've never been because I found Moscow. I think I I'm really into architecture as well, and I found that brutalist style very impressive, and I wanted to see it myself. So I always love and I'm really into history. I think I mentioned that a couple of times. So knowing, especially World War II, we talked about my passion for planes from that era, and knowing that those big battles took place here, and I lost half of my family in World War II as well, and they fought on both sides, right? My my Ukrainian side, uh Czech Russian side, then uh German side, and I find that very uh very fascinating. So when you combine these kind of things and you travel to places that you know from a history book, yeah, right. Um someone going to Pearl Harbor or uh cool four 70 years ago, 80 years ago, there was a massive battle taking place.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

Well, even if it's just Rome, like we talked about earlier, is yeah, or Greece. There's always interesting weird.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:50

I find it fascinating. I guess sometimes you think like, wow, did or when you are when we are at Manhattan and you look at the Freedom Towers and you know oh 9-11 happened to you, what a war zone display.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:00

It's it's weird to experience stuff in real life. It's like being for uh for me when I was in the cockpit of a plane for the first time, that was so crazy because I've only seen it on the screen.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:10

Yeah, I've only seen it on the flight sim. Now you're bringing it up for me. Now it's so normal because it has happened a couple of times, but I started all this maybe also with the intention that I want to be sitting in the flight deck because it's very difficult nowadays for takeoff landing or for an entire flight. And I've experienced this so much. Yeah, I've experienced that on so many occasions now where sometimes I forget, and thanks for this reminder, how amazing of a life I've actually lived. And and this I started with zero dollar. The tell the boy that with 20 years that was flipping burgers at McDonald's that I was right, that one day you will have him, you will have millions of.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:46

You'll be in a in a hotel room in Atlanta.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:48

You will be in a hotel room where where you go to an AFCON where people paid a lot of money to see you, right? So I find this fascinating, and I love I'm so grateful for this. But like if this this is one, if you're flipping burgers right now and and it's shit, but it teaches you so many good lessons, right? Like hardship is so great because it creates character. And when I was there flipping burgers and I was like uh uh frying fries and I was sitting there and I would smell like onions after the end of my shift, and I got I think I was paid 900 euros and uh for a month, and I was just like really thinking of the dream. I was a dreamer back then, and I know now I'm gonna work, and then I took my first trip to Moscow, paid by myself. I was just there for three days, but I felt so accomplished, and I felt like this was you managed to get it. Yeah, never like before buy a flipping burgers, and then the dreams got bigger and then something like that. One day I want to be uh wanna write about airlines, and one day I want to film about it. I never wanted to be an entertainer, I've never thought I'd be good on camera or stuff like that, or that I can make uh like that people would watch my entertainment, yeah, entertainer. Like what like some I sometimes I watch my videos, I think why would somebody watch that? And then I feel like I have that on all my videos, yeah. Yeah, and it was still like I'm like, why would people watching this? And I'm like, and sometimes like last year I had like what 250 million views, it's one billion views. This is like uh a third of the European uh population in Europe, and I think like why would people watch this? But there's something for everyone, like this is what I said like if you were young and we're gonna talk very soon about his story. Oh, we should do that. 14-year-old that started instead of instead of being under the blanket and and uh and uh playing video games. Doing what this boy decided to start a YouTube channel.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

Yeah, I mean I started when I was 13.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:40

And your story is very different. You come from a rather like let's say privileged family, uh like wealthy family, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

Middle class. Great middle class, yeah. Nothing crazy for that.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:50

Google Google his dad, and you know what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:52

No, no, no come on.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:53

But you didn't have to. No, that doesn't take anything away from No, I'm so I'm not Nepo.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:57

So all I did okay, all I got when I was a kid, I I I got the tools to make stuff, so I got a labor.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:03

And this one this what makes your story amazing. Nobody chooses, nobody you can't pick your parents, right? I could have been born into a well-a wealthy family, uh, but I wasn't. But you you you you did, and instead of like thinking, oh you know, I'd be like, whatever, daddy's gonna take care of me. No, you started your own business with 14, and I think what that makes you so incredible. And that's cool. No, I think that I find this inspiring because as I said, we can't pick our parents, we can't pick in which environment we are born in, but we can we can decide ourselves who we want to become. Yeah, exactly. And this is the opportunity, and you did that with a very young age, and I feel like we should make an episode very soon about the story of Nick.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:46

Because it's been it's it's gonna be nine, it's gonna be nine years this year for the both of us.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:51

Yeah, it's gonna be nine years, and nine years, and and I don't want to give away too much, but this guy, the story of this guy is so great that an airport is named after him. And this is not a joke. No, that's not a joke. No, we're gonna talk about that later. We got so far that then there is an airport that is named after you. Shhh shh. We're gonna keep that up for uh I said like it's all about no all about you can achieve anything that you want in life, and I think uh now uh in the next and one of the next one.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:20

But mostly what does the next step look like for you? Like what's the force? Okay, but that's like an interesting one.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:25

I still I eventually I feel like family would be something cool. Yeah, pass on that knowledge. That's something you can't buy, for example. That is something you can't buy, and you cannot buy that opponent to make a family with. I mean opponent? That's uh component. That component.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:39

I thought opponent is like the isn't opponent like the.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:42

Now you can say that like everything is an opponent like opposition in that sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:45

Like opponent, like I thought opponent was a component as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:48

I thought it was a component is more that thing that in between to connect you with the opponent. You need that component. Uh English. It's not my native language, but I know it, of course, you need to. Find uh you need to find a loving wife, you need to find someone that you trust, a best friend that you marry.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:06

I could say but it's not something that should be I think that's settling down, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:11

I mean, yes, I mean I have geographically as well. Geographically as well. But I could just generally say I yes, I'm super grateful. I I think in my professional life I would still say, hey, cool, I want that uh that uh gold button. Okay, you know the one the one million.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:28

It's gotten smaller now.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:29

It gotten smaller, it was way bigger now. We're too late. Yeah, but I still remember when I when you got that silver button. And then a hundred thousand, okay, you get there. Like in an I got there in my second year, I think. Not even like after twelve thirteen months or something, I got to the hundred. But getting to the million is such a bigger more commitment.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:52

And it takes I feel like the way from six hundred thousand it becomes extremely hard.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:57

Yeah, it's a long journey. But from hundreds, like I remember when I reached 10,000, uh I uh 10,000 subscribers, and then I think it's just like not that it's as I said, like it's not about the numbers that don't matter, like but having this memory, but they're like milestones. Yeah, you have that milestone and you put it on your wall, and then one day when when you're 65 and your mates come over, right, and they say, Josh, uh, what is this? Uh for a title. I tried no, I tried to uh be a uh uh a grandfather voice.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:30

What is this, Josh?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:32

Doesn't sound good now.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:33

I think what's cool about the YouTube is like the story. The worst like the it kind of is immortalized. Because I've the videos will never go away. I've got two thousand videos, and they're they can live on forever.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:45

Yeah, and this is one even if you pass away one day, your legacy stays. Yeah, that's so cool. That's like about the internet. This is really cool that this is stays, and like then like I wish I had I wish my dad would have been a vlogger because then I could watch him and I see, hey, that's what he used to be. Because your family's memories are fading as well. But like if I happen to have kids and then one day I'm no more, God forbid, I saw the I hopefully have still a lot, long, long time to go. Is that something you uh you think about more now when you're not really like sometimes you know, of course, when my dad passed away, I thought like where is he now? You know, what is uh what comes after life, you know, and eventually it's gonna be my turn as well or anybody's turn, but God knows what comes after, you know. But you make you think about it like where is dad now? Where does he live? Does he still have some consciousness of some form and watches you or not?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:42

Um I think it's just that we humans can't we can't comprehend nothingness, right? I think it's it would make most sense if it's just nothing. It's like well before you're born, right? I think life is like this very short span between nothing and nothing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:57

But then mm life is actually an extremely awesome miracle where you think Yeah, it's great. Can't be it. It's great. It can't be it. There might be it at the next level.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's a it's sometimes it's almost like good to be reminded of the how life as you just reminded me, like uh oh, like the flight deck stories.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:17

Like I honestly, like back in the days that was everything, and now it normalizes. Sometimes I think we have to but have more gratitude, you know, yeah. For for what we achieve.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:26

Humans get used to stuff. Yeah, of course we can't. Which is good sometimes. It's it's good that we get even we can get used to bad situations as well, right? I mean, we can get get used to misery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and uh but we also get used to having really, really, really good time.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:41

Absolutely. And we always want to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:42

You get used to your fast car and you get used to whatever you have and or your family, even even that kind of stuff. You get used to having a great wife, you know what I mean? And then and some people don't, but they don't you do you learn to not appreciate it, and that's kind of like human nature, and it's important to keep that always in mind how good of a life you have, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:02

No, that's that's true. And like looking back at my last 40 years, there was everything. There was struggle. There was I remember when I was in in in in school when I when we came to Germany, and they had to vote whether I can go on excursions with them and stuff like that. Yeah, it's crazy. Because you do you weren't liked? No, I was still I was not German enough, I guess, because I was the foreigner, my mom was Czech, and there was all those weird stories coming from another country. Yeah, so they had to vote whether I can join them on an excursion. That's like but like and once again, like I could super exclusive. Yeah, yeah, it's like crazy. I spoke about this once in my video, and then I was surprised how many messages I got from people though saying they went through same crazy stuff and things like this. So everyone has their struggles, but like I look back at it that if you don't stop squeezing the the water bottle, like people will hear that, and then they will be like, but that's not like even if you have um these struggles, I think can you stop the water bottle? It's really fucking annoying. Thank you very much. You don't have to cut that out as well. Sometimes I want to know like people see what a naughty boy he is sometimes. But as I said, like I think my story is so cool because I remember that struggle, and I gr I gladly was in the butt, you know, sometimes by life because like because I was because even if you struggle, you can make it and like you take it as a you know a sling shot you around and like puts you on all yeah, but yeah, like bad times they also build character, right? They do only the bad times. Yeah, yeah. And you can you can uh and uh it's just like God only puts as much burden on you as you can handle.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:50

Yeah, it's I mean yin and gang. That's totally right. I mean there can't be light without shade and stuff, and there can't be night without day, and there can't be good times without bad times, and in order for you to learn something, you feel stupid at first learning something, and then you get good after. You know, they have to go through that. When you go to the gym, you feel weak because you can't lift anything yet, like I do. But then when you get in order to become stronger, you have to be weak. In order to become smart, you have to be dumb, right? Yeah, yeah, so uh it's all about the process.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:21

I like how we're like, this is like proper uh No, we were talking about it just yeah, but then this is cool. Like this is I mean, this is what podcasts is all about, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:28

You go into deeper spirits, straight random streams of thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:31

But that's what I said, like as a psychosis. I used to back in Australia when I was um had no money, I was completely out of money. And I like there was days where I slept in in in a park and stuff, or like my friends, and then they kicked me out after four days. They said, like, Josh, go and I would live off one dollar noodles, and then I had no money, and then I scored a job at a cafe uh as a waiter, and they provided accommodation. I was on an island in Australia, they provided accommodation, and you would you get paid fortnightly, like every second week in Australia. And I started there, all I had was the last two dollars I had, I spent on a bag of oatmeal. Yeah, because oatmeal gives you energy, right? And I wouldn't I didn't even have the luxury to mix it with milk or anything like this. I had to mix it with water, put it in microwave, and that was my energy meal. But then when I worked as a waiter and I cleared the tables, and sometimes they there was like so much salmon or steak over that before I threw it away, I ate the salmon or like the because I had because I was so hungry. Or when there was breakfast first time and they didn't need the hash brown, I took it off the table like when I cleared it, and uh that's why we went up to the table and we'd like to finish this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like this. I was like, Are you done? Because I saw, oh my god, she didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:45

Would you like me to clear this one?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:46

Yeah, yeah, exactly. This is like, and I see she struggles and she didn't touch the hash brown. And I was like, Are you are you are you ready? Can I clear it? And she's like, Yeah, you know what, I'm done. And I was like, Thank God. Took that plate, and before you throw it in it in the trash, I took that hash brown, like stuffed it into my mouth, and I had something to eat, and uh and it was and then when I got paid after two weeks, it was the greatest feeling on earth, you know? Because I was like, I can actually pay for that.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:12

I always think like it's uh having money isn't that cool, but getting money is really cool. Getting stuff is cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:19

I was both. I had like um I have been comfortable, I have been broke, and both have their advantages. Both because you live a much more intenser lifestyle if you broke, because you have to use your brain and you have to survive. You're in survival mode, which sometimes is really cool, gets energy out of you because you need to function.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:37

Because if you don't function, you don't have any thing that would comfort me to be at the lowest of lowest, it's like you have literally nothing to lose when you when you've hit rock bottom, you can it it can't get worse.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:46

And that's that's one life lesson I've learned. You can fool your friends, you can fool your family, you can fool your wife, but you cannot fool your stomach because you be hungry at one point. Oh yeah you know, you can tell your parents whatever you want, you can fool your friends, but you cannot fool your stomach. And I think this is a very valuable lesson. If you can't fool your like if you Oh like literally. Yeah, literally, because you'd be hungry at one point. You can tell your stomach, oh, everything is fine, but you have to put food into your in your into your stomach eventually, right? So you can't you can't trick your stomach. Can you trick your stomach? Eventually you starve one and then die, right? So you need to put food. Yeah, and this uh there you go. But that's just what I mean. You can't fool your stomach, you can fool anybody else, but never your stomach, because eventually it will ask for food, and if you don't have food, you die. Does make sense to you? Talk to a man who's never been hungry. Now you can see it. Yeah, that's right. But like this is about me. I've been I've been for Deborah. You will have but the good thing you lose weight when you when you when you hungry. No, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:51

I should I should probably be super broke. Everybody unsubscribe, stop watching my videos forever.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:56

No, but like everyone, and this is what I said, everyone has you're not less of a of an individual because you never went through this, you know. It's also my fault. Why did I drop out?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:06

I haven't been through many things.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:08

Yeah, but like I mean, like I was in a situation where I also probably put myself, right? So I don't blame anyone but myself, but I'm glad that I was in those situations because um it is what it is. But I was always too proud to ask uh someone for money or something like that, and here I am today. And tomorrow we go to the AFCON where thousand thousand plus people come to see us. That's how the world is uh that's how life is.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:37

I I can't wait to like take uh I can't wait to be asked tomorrow. Can I take a picture of Josh and me? Can you do that? And then I hold a camera.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:47

Hey, people love you. You have a massive audience and you be uh you're just as loved. And uh I think on this note is a good way to I mean this is uh we're gonna give you we have our first guest on our next podcast. You want to say more about this? No. We have a first guest, that's it. That's all we want.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:03

We can't come on, we have to give it a keep it a little bit magic.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:06

Okay, we we don't reveal the name.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:07

I think these podcasts should be like going on out on a date, you know. It can go all ways. Like, oh, yeah, not in that way, not in the fact that all the ways. No, it could be reminds me of Bearback Burger again. Yeah, yeah. But uh the cool thing about going on a date is like, you know, you don't really know what how this is gonna be, how this person is gonna be. How it's gonna end. How it's gonna end up. So you want to know how this person is gonna be. You're gonna that's like it should be, and I I don't want to to to to to spoil anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:35

So I think we should But we should give them a little teaser that there will be a guest on the next show. Yeah, we have a guest. It will be a video and we will talk also about how the FCON went. I think this is something that we really wanna hear. But we will have someone on the on the podcast and we will ask Undisclosed. Undisclosed, we will ask him very difficult questions, right? Yeah, you think so? We will ask him the most difficult questions. Okay, as you always ask me the difficult questions. I will ask difficult questions. Yeah, you give me a lot of softballs. Yeah, really. That's okay, but I can't wait. And after this, we're gonna do the life of Nick Swiss001, where I will not softball you. Okay. I will give you the the curveballs. Okay. The the difficult ones.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:18

Such as well, I have to do my research. I will do my homework and I will dig very, very deep, and I find your deepest secrets. And then I will ask them why did you do this? Why did you dress up on your last Ryanair flight? Dress up? Yeah, I was trying to be funny. Okay. But I failed miserably. But I think that's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:40

Thank you so much, everybody, for watching this podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:42

We're gonna get into the city of Atlanta now and get some chicken and some chick and chicken, chicken, chicken, chick, chick. We gonna do that. And thank you so guys for being patient with us. Yeah, I know it's not a weekly thing anymore, but we just want to really talk about stuff when we have something.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:58

Honestly, we're running out of ideas. Yeah, well, come on, we can't just do weekly two-hour things.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We could we want to we wanna share cool stuff with you guys. And I know and we love you guys for giving us trading.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:17

Huh? Imagine if like um like we're I'm just gonna troll my audience at the end of my YouTube career career and post like almost the same video every day. So I I do videos every day, right? Imagine if I just talk about St. Bartholomew Island airport every day and just land and take off planes from there every day. And you just do like a you just you just fly Lufthansa A320 cabin like ever like every week, you know? Every every video is just A320 flying.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:43

That is in relation to what?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:44

I don't guess I I just thought it was a funny idea about being repetitive like this podcast. Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, wouldn't that be funny though? Can you evangelist trolling your audience is posting like kind of the same video every day? It's just like what was that movie, every like the that movie where they're they represents. I think at some point they get worried. Like, didn't you post Luftonza yesterday and the day before that? Yeah, uh A320.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:04

Yeah, that's that's true. But we wanted to be funny. We want no, I didn't think it was funny. But we sc we you tried. And that's what matters, right? Uh I appreciate the effort. Thank you guys so so much for watching. But thank you for watching and thanks for giving us great reviews. We appreciate that and keep them coming. Bye. And let us know in the comments what you think and if you have any questions. And I I love you guys. I love you too. Bye.