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Butcher and Blackbird - Book Report

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Welcome Smut Squad to the month of Brynne Weaver. Today we are going back to the book that started it all for us.  Today we are talking Butcher & Blackbird, Book 1 in the Ruinous Love Trilogy. We are going down a dark rom com tunnel with serial killers who killer other serial killers and their feelings for eachother, so join us for some laughs. 

If you have not read this book, do not rob yourself of the joy. Go read or listen to it. 

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SPEAKER_00

What up, Smut Squad? Welcome to Smut Syndicate. I am Charlie, and with me is Danielle. Hello. Okay, so we are going back to the beginning. To the very beginning. The very beginning. We are going to be covering Butcher and Blackbird by Bryn Weaver. Now you might ask yourself, why? You guys already did this. Well, number one, I don't know, because. But also because. Just because. Just because. In that short time that we in the short time that we've been covering books, we have learned some things. We have changed the way that we are doing these podcasts, the way that we are sending these books to you. And also a lot more things have unfolded. So we thought, why not do it better if we can? So for the month of May, we are going to be hitting you with Bryn. Non-stop Bryn action. Um, we are going to be redoing the Ruinous Love trilogy, and then we're also going to be covering tourist season leading up to the release of Harvest Season on June 9th. So stick with us. We promise it'll be worth your time. Hell yeah. So this is the first book in the Ruinous Love trilogy written by the Queen, Bryn Weaver, the Canadian author, hell yeah. Hell yeah. The internet tells us that Bryn lives on a farm in Nova Scotia. I don't know if that is true to this day, but I feel like it was true because I've heard her talk about Nova Scotia. And that explains a lot because Maritimers are hilarious. And Brynn has such a wild and crazy sense of humor. Every book is full of pop culture references, and for us uh children, that is our love language. It really is.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Brynn is also a fairly new author. Um, the earliest that we could find of her work was published in 2021. And to have the level of success that she has in such a short amount of time is incredible. B B was the first one of her books that we read, and we have since gone back and consumed literally everything. Yes. Um, and they have all been hilarious. Dark romance with like that thriller element to it. Super special shout out to the Shadow Realm series. This is not talked about nearly enough. No, it is the greatest thing I have ever read in my life.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's one of the greatest dark romanticy, fantasy, rom-com, whatever you want to call it. It is hilarious. There will definitely be a time when we do that book because or that series because we just can't get enough of it. And Danielle, I'm here to give credit where credit is due. Thank you. You found B. You found Brynn. This was your god teacher. Yeah, she is my love child. So just so you know, I'm writing this right top square, right in the center on your freaking tombstone. I found Butcher and Blackbird.

SPEAKER_01

Like because girls. It's like my number one accomplishment in life.

SPEAKER_00

It really is. Everything else that you've done has been second to this.

SPEAKER_01

100%, yes. Yeah. Um BB was first published in August of 2023. It is a contemporary dark romance, but it has horror and some thriller elements to it. Uh, Bryn does a really good job of keeping the scary stuff light. So the basic premise we have two serial killers who kill other serial killers. Hopefully you're following along still. They start a friendly competition of who is the better serial killer. Chaos ensues, man kills man, woman kills man, man, and woman fall in love. It is a tale as old as time.

SPEAKER_00

I've heard it a million times. Yes. You know, it just that's how me and my husband fell in love. That was our mute cue. You know, it just so common, right? Uh, special mention for the audiobook. This is duet narration, meaning the female character, Sloane, is voiced by female narrator Lucy Rivers.

SPEAKER_01

I just love her. I love her.

SPEAKER_00

She's so good. Yeah. She is, I'm low-key obsessed, let me just say. And the main character, Rowan motherfucking Kane, is voiced by the amazing, sultry Joe Arden.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Joe Arden could literally hit me with a car and I would ask if he would just narrate my eulogy.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm sure that could be arranged. We'll we'll look into it. Yeah. Um, Rowan Kane is Irish, and Joe Arden does the I move from Ireland. You know how I feel about them Irishmen. Oh, yes, I do. Uh, he does the I Move from Ireland, and now I live in Boston, and I'm this golden retriever boyfriend who also has like a dark twisted soul so well. Yeah, that if you have not listened to this audiobook, stop what you're doing right now and go and listen. Like it is so good. It's so good. And if you have been living under a rock, you wouldn't know that BB is being turned into a movie, like a whole ass in the theater movie. Yes. Like, like people are finally seeing our this is like one of the first times that like dark romance like this, like dark rom-com, is being turned into a movie. So again, Bryn killing it in the game. Um, it is in pre-production. Bryn is an executive producer and is being directed by the same guy who did the Lego Batman movie, which means this is gonna be hilarious. Yeah, it is. And like, congrats, Bryn. Like, you got that movie money, girl. Yeah, get that bag. Hell yeah. Anyways, now into the spoilers. We're going into the nitty-gritty. So if you don't, if you haven't read this book and you don't want it spoiled for you, turbular are you doing?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, turbulent.

SPEAKER_00

What are you even doing? Yeah. Um, so the first page of the book it opens with saying Butcher and Blackbird, annual August Showdown, seven days, tiebreaker by rock, paper, scissors, best of five. Winner takes the forest phantom. Okay, put that in your brain.

SPEAKER_01

I'm so excited. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So am I. The book starts off with Sloane. She's trapped in a cage. She killed Albert Briscoe. She gets her knife in him. Her custom ordered Etsy knife.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Custom ordered Etsy knife. She's classy. She's a classy lady.

SPEAKER_00

Hell yeah. But not before he locks her in a cage. So she's stuck just sitting next to his corp for three days. And I have read BMB, I don't know, six, seven, eight, ten, fifteen times. Something a lot of times. The Orzo Pasta, aka Megetz, that Brynn describes coming out of his skin. It does something to me, not a good something. I haven't eaten Orzo Pasta since I first read this book years ago, and I'm okay with never having it again. Yeah. Personally. I agree. Personally. Rowan comes upon Sloan. She's singing Blackbird, hence his nickname for her. They have their little introduction, meet cute, and Sloan, or sorry, Rowan is immediately like, oh my God, fangirling. Like, are you the orb weaver? Like, oh my god. Which is like this serial killer known for removing her eyeballs, uh, the victim's eyeballs.

SPEAKER_01

So uh yeah, so not only is she a serial killer, but she is a fucking genius and an artiste. And I love Sloan Sutherland.

SPEAKER_00

If you're gonna do it, do it with flair.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Uh also Brynn's ability to like engrave an image into your brain is next level. So there's a part in this intro where she says, like, the skin splits open and a white mass of maggots tumbles out like little orzo pastas. And it's you like your brain immediately gets this visual of it. It's not good. But no, the visual that I get of this absolute badass bitch sitting in a cage with a decomposing body and like an army of marching maggots while she's like humming heckbird and just like patiently waiting to die is fucking unhinged, but also like peak Bryn. If you have ever read any of her books, like you're like, okay, here we go, buckle up buttercup.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she just she has that low-key, like I said, that maritimer humor where they just their dark is dark, and it honestly she does it so perfectly. So perfectly. So Rowan saves Sloan from the cage and he takes her out for barbecue.

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, there is nothing more appetizing than a large plate of meat after starving next to a dead guy who's literally decomposing.

SPEAKER_00

Right, like it really feels like alive.

SPEAKER_01

Fucking gross.

SPEAKER_00

Uh just a little bit like alive. I don't know if any of those guys when they got off the mountain were like, so what are we having for dinner? Like ribs or like wheat. Yeah. I'd be like, oh, I'm okay for a little bit. Vegetarian. Yeah. Um, big reason why I love reading dark romance books, and specifically ones that are written by women, is you get the possessive male character who is just obsessed with the female character. And that is Rowan right from the start. Like he loves that she is this badass serial killer. She's been fooling the FBI, but she's also beautiful. Obviously. And like, right? Of course, she wouldn't be killing people if she wasn't. No. And he just she's he is written to say the things that men would never actually say. Well, like five men, but most men would never say this. And especially too when you get that dual POV and you get to hear their thoughts. So good. When the male character sees the female for the first time in every book, and he's just like taken, like, oh, like everything that she does is just like perfect baby angel. Yes. Man, that's it. That's my crack.

SPEAKER_01

Put it right in there. I also love that he like calls her out on knowing who he is, the fucking butcher of Boston, which is such a cool name. Um, over there, banter top tier. And it is this is the second chapter of the book, and I was already like fucking kicking my feet and like giggling like an idiot the whole time.

SPEAKER_00

This is it's so fucking good. It's so good, and I think this was also one of the first times that I really encountered this kind of banter because I did have a lot of like, you know, prior to this, we were reading dark romance, but it was like possessive stalker, you know, paranormal, da-da-da-da. This was one of the first times where I got that really good banter that you get from a contemporary romance and put it like really mix it in with the nitty-gritty, like it just brand, she kills it. Yeah. So fast forward one year later, Sloan is waiting to get the coordinates for this year's game. That's an August annual August showdown. Um, we get to meet her bestie, Lark, aka Meadow Lark Montague. Love that name. This is her super bubbly singer best friend who hands out gold stars whenever someone does something that she likes. And side note, after I read this book the first time, I started handing out gold stars, and everybody loved it. Good. They should have loved it. That's such a nice gift to give people. It just was like, hey, just let's see if I could train people. They are headed to West Virginia. The hunt is afoot. Hell yeah. We see Rowan's POV, he's packing for West Virginia, and we get to meet old brother Lachlan Kane and the younger brother. Oh, Fion Kane. Love them. I love the relationship that Brynn wrote with the brothers. It's very playful. There's lots of joking, messing around, but they would also do anything to protect each other. Uh and have done everything to protect each other. They arrive at this out-of-the-way motel. I don't know if it's a motel. It's like a no-tell motel. The Cunningham Inn, which interesting. What could go wrong? Right? We get again the silly banter. Rowan is such a carefree, easy-going character. It's just so refreshing in a male character, in the main male character. Um, after a few days of them being at the Cunningham Inn, Sloan Sloane ditches Rowan to go out for a night on the town with the innkeeper Francis. Yeah. And Francis is described as like this like dweeby, nerdy guy.

SPEAKER_01

Fucking Ned Flanders. Yeah, but he has like Ned Flanders.

SPEAKER_00

Suspenders and like a real thin pink, like neon pink tie, but it's like a clip-on. Like it's just uh it's a scene. It's a whole scene. She returns to her room, which is right next to Rowan's, and he overhears Sloane using her purple buddy, and she's moaning his name. And when he presses himself closer to the wall, he realizes that there's somebody else in there. And it's Francis the innkeeper, and he's watching Sloane.

SPEAKER_01

I know that it's awful, but this creep like jerking off in the walls just sends me. If the walls are thin enough to hear her vibrator, like, how is she not hearing this guy beat his meat to like her? I'm sorry, but like if he's if he's that level of creepy where he's like wedging himself in between the drywall, right? Like, you know, he's not quiet. He's like I like a gross grunter, too.

SPEAKER_00

I love it so much because it really puts my brain with like who framed Roger Rabbit when the bunny is like in the walls and he's like looking and his eyes are like knocking over like candlesticks and stuff. I just immediately go to childish humor. And I'm like, I love that so much. Um, so the pieces are coming together. The missing hikers, it wasn't an accident, it was this creepy innkeeper, Francis Ross. He was behind all of it. Francis runs out of the walls and they race after Francis. They're but also they're like tackling each other in the process, and Brynn just paints like such a funny picture. It's like these two serial killers are running and knocking each other down so that they can each have the chance to kill this guy first. They're like tripping each other, throwing stuff down in their way. Like it's just so silly, but again, perfection. Francis gets into his car to drive away. Rowan jumps on the hood, smashes a rock into the windshield, and keeps smashing until Francis crashes into a tree, which is like so manly.

SPEAKER_01

I know that like feminine rage just does it for me. If I'm reading anything where it's like feminine rage, I'm like, fuck yeah, girl, get it. Masculine rage when he's like when he's doing it for her.

SPEAKER_00

For a good reason.

SPEAKER_01

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. It's the sweetest pie. Let me just tell you that. Spectacular. Give me 14 of them.

SPEAKER_01

It is so good.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's so good. And Rowan tells Francis that Sloane is his. Yeah. And then he proceeds to beat the complete shit out of him. Like, not even, you know what? I'm sorry. That is, I am underselling. You're underselling it. I am underselling this. Yeah. He basically makes Play Doh with his face. Yes. By with by using his fists. He he reshrape reshapes his face. Um, and while this is happening, then Rowan kind of has like a little Menti B because he's like, oh my God, like I scared Sloane off.

SPEAKER_01

Bro, you found the girl in a fucking cage with a corpse. You didn't scare her off. You scared her in.

SPEAKER_00

Like, bring it in, bro. Right? Like, she's okay. And he's like basically like wailing for her, like, Sloan, Sloan. Just like a pile of meat face beside him. Look at my play-doh. Yeah, he's that's essentially what he's doing. And Slum was kind of like hiding in the shadows, but she was also like, hmm, he like really loves me. And she returns to his side. And again, I love when authors do this, when they write this like broken down man, this like vulnerability, but also like, you know, he's not afraid to like admit, like, I didn't mean to scare you off. It was an accident. Like, this is why Rowan is bae.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, this is why Rowan will always be top three book husbands for me. Um, literally number one all the time. Sometimes someone will like one and a half weasel their way in, but I'm pretty sure he is gonna be like number one until I'm done. Um when he is tilling this fucking piece of shit like she's mine, and then rearranges his fucking face like literally pile of meat. Yeah, this should not be that hot. It should be horrifying. Yet here I am, fully erect. It's not even the violence that does it for me. It's like the feral confidence that he has and just like zero hesitation to straight up murder a man. Yeah. Peak romance.

SPEAKER_00

Oh. That is peak romance for me. He just everything about this character is just so hot, perfectly done and hot. Yeah, it's so after this whole scene takes place, they kind of go their own ways. And a little bit later in the year, Sloan is visiting Three and Coach. This is the restaurant that Rowan owns, and it's really cute because he got the name from like when him and his brothers moved over from Ireland. It was they had three seats and coach, which love that. She goes there because again, like Sloan is very introverted. She very like keeps to herself, but she's also like, I need a little slice of that Rowan pie. So she just wants to go see him. She has kind of like she claims it was like a work trip, but she's like, Your girl making up any excuse she can to get here.

SPEAKER_01

She had like what is it called when you an every she didn't everything shower. She could shaved everything also for this dinner.

SPEAKER_00

She's a fresh, a fresh babe ready for this. Um, and Rowan has a seat permanently saved for Sloane. Sorry, not a seat, an entire fucking table. God damn, that's so cute. Oh, it's so cute. And but it's also it's not even just like, oh, he had a table. He knows exactly where she would want to sit in the restaurant. He keeps it permanently free. And while she's sitting there, like he doesn't realize that she's in the restaurant. She's sitting there and she draws this picture of like, I don't know, a raven, a crow, a blackbird, something, some kind of bird. Um, and then like as soon as he kind of like catches, like she realizes that he is now aware of her present. She's like, I'm an idiot. Like, what am I doing? I literally flew across the country to come check on this guy that I murder people with once a year, and then she fucking bails.

SPEAKER_01

I picture also like she's a terrible artist, and it's like the shittiest stick bird you've ever seen. Like you can you can kind of tell that it's a bird.

SPEAKER_00

That I want when these people are doing art or sitting to be dancing, is for it to be the equivalent of if I draw you the picture that she drew, and man, you're gonna see some talent. You are gonna see some talent.

SPEAKER_01

But like it's like that kid in elementary school who spent like an entire class drawing like the eyeball, and it's fucking awful. And they're like, Did you spend the whole class drawing that? And they're like, it's really good, isn't it? No, actually shit from a butt. Right? Like, well, it's like Sloane showing up to this restaurant and being like too much of a pussy to talk to him, and then she just like tries to like sneakily dip out without being seen, and then gets called out, and she's still just like, oh, I wasn't just uh leaving. It's like that scene from Star Wars, like uh everything's fine here. But slow getting busted at the restaurant 100%.

SPEAKER_00

But also, I know we just talked about this recently, where you're saying, Oh, the miscommunication, but it works in a dual POV. Because if it was one person, you'd be like, Yeah, girl, what are you doing? You're embarrassing the shit out of yourself. But when you know that the other character likes them, you're like, bitch, he likes you.

SPEAKER_01

I think you likes you. He also likes when she's embarrassing herself. I think he has like a weird, I think he's like a little freak and he's like, uh, humiliate yourself for me.

SPEAKER_00

Well, also because he likes that he's making her shy, because this is like this is the orb weaver. She is so confident in everything that she does. Yeah, she's like this is a power suit wearin' bitch. Yes, she wears a power suit in her regular life. She does these like TED talk-ish things for like doctors. Like, she's this is a big dog. Yeah, so there's not a lot that like debates her. She's a big dog. So when she's like, uh, Rowan saw me in his restaurant, he's like, Bitch likes me. Yeah, fuck yeah. Like it just feels good. I love it. It feels good, you're right. So Rowan regrets that he didn't get a chance to talk to Sloane when she came into the restaurant, and he flies to Raleigh, which is where she's from. So he's from Boston, Avi, Boston butcher. She's from Raleigh, North Carolina. And while he's there, he doesn't like actually go to her house and like approach her. He pays this kid to bring her meals, and then he calls her on the phone and is like, Oh, hey, like what's like what's going on? She's like, Oh, someone like dropped off this meal, and he's like, Okay, well, let's chat on the phone and let's cook it together, which is so freaking cute.

SPEAKER_01

But also, like, I just picture him in like a tree outside of a window with like binoculars, like watching her or not.

SPEAKER_00

Even in a tree, literally in the bush outside of her house. And he just stands up and looks in the window and he's like, Someone brought you food. Like in a gym, like sitting on a bench. Literally see you. Yes. Tell me what's in the bag. 100%. The first meal is orso pasta. That bitch. Bitch. That bitch. Like, damn. But he does this for a whole week. So he also took his vacation just to do this shit. Just to hide in the bush and talk to her on the floor. Come on. I love it. I love it so much. And like we get to see how nice and caring Rowan is. He also mentions that he nudged the police in the direction of Albert Briscoe for some murder. So it's like, okay, maybe the orb weaver like killed him, but now we see why she killed him. Maybe he wasn't the nice guy that we all thought that he was. Okay, year two of the game. We have Thorsten Harris.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we have dinner specifically with Thorsten Harris.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we do.

SPEAKER_01

We also meet one of my favorite side characters of all time, Lobotomy David, who might just be like the most well-written villain, also. Um back to dinner. Rowan gets fucked up. Thorsten was slowly drugging him all night, as you do. Uh that's a nice host, man. That's just that's a good host. You mean I'm gonna get like absolutely fucked up for free, and you're gonna feed me?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. For free? Rowan is obliterated. He's like slurring, and of course now he's like confessing his undying love for Sloane. Love it. And losing his mind over this like beef dish that he was served. But in true brid fashion, the food can never be trusted. It is human meat, a literal piece of ass. Yeah, it's a rump roast. It's a rump roast. It was beef miswa. Um so Rowan like waking up to Sloan singing Radiohead and just ripping Thorsten's eyes out is like the next part of the scene. And she is freaking out. She's like, you ate a fucking person and I had to dig human ass out of your mouth. And I also just like can't get enough of Lobotomy David. He's like sitting on the counter, like swinging his feet in the kitchen, eating cum ice cream. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Freshly milked. Yeah, freshly milked. It is cookies and cream. To this day, I still can't eat anything cookies and cream for fear of the fish.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know why it took me so long to realize that it was cookies and cream. I don't know. Cream. Cream. Freshly milked cream. Freshly milked, heavy on the cream. Heavy on the cream.

SPEAKER_01

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That right over my head. Yeah. Right. This is the best chapter of any book I've ever read in my life.

SPEAKER_01

I don't care that I can't eat cookies and cream anymore. This was the best chapter of my life.

SPEAKER_00

Of any book that I've ever read. I am gonna go and buy something, cookies and cream, because it don't affect me. Uh that sounds delightful. But the first time that I read this chapter, I laughed so fucking hard. Tears in my eyes. She's like, you ate a fucking person and you went back for more. I was trying to tell you no, and you were still going. And it is just so fucking funny because every time that he mentions it, obviously Rowan is throwing up. Like every time she's like, he ate someone's ass. Like, ugh.

SPEAKER_01

And he's like projectile exorcist vomiting into a bucket. And she's like, oh my fucking god. Like this is a crime scene, my dude. Yeah. Yeah. Keep your DNA to yourself.

SPEAKER_00

That is Brynn Weaver. Yeah. That right there. Now you've read all of her books.

SPEAKER_01

The fact that this was our introduction to her, we were like, Yeah, give me more. I think this says more about us than it does about the.

SPEAKER_00

I'm very curious if there are people who didn't like this. I should go back and look at the one-star reads and find those people and be like, you don't like humor? You don't like jokes? Having a good time is like just too much for you. Yeah. Okay, fine. Um, so Rowan wakes up. Sloan is showing Rowan her dark side. Like he's seeing her like killing Thorsten, but also she's making this map. So she's the orb weaver. The second part of the name comes from she makes these topographical maps that have different colors, and she hangs body parts and pieces and eyes on these maps that point to the other killer's victims. Which Brynn, where how did you think this up? Like, when I'm reading a book, I love when I get these kind of books that are written by these kind of authors, and I'm like, this author is way too smart for me. Like they're way too smart for me to be even reading this book. Like, Bryn, what is your IQ? What level are you on Guitar Hero?

SPEAKER_01

The highest level.

SPEAKER_00

The highest, right? Like, Jesus. Um, and so Sloan is like, hey, like, obviously, I won this game. You ate ass and fucking passed out. So uh, can I stake a claim? And he's like, Well, what do you want? And she's like, Can you take David home and like give him a job? He's just this like guy who's here. He was like a victim of Thorston's as well. He's slow, he doesn't know what the hell's going on. He's eating this cum ice cream. Just just help him out. Give him a job. And he's like, A job? Like, you want me to take a human being? And she's like, nobody knows that he's here, anyways. Like, it's fine. And so he's like, uh fine, and takes him, which nice guy, Rowan. Yeah. Fast forward later in the year, Rowan invites Sloan to this the best of Boston gala with him. And she's like kind of depressed because she thought that like he was inviting her because he liked her, and she's like, you know, got the girls on display. She's where she's like wearing her best dress, and he's like, Yeah, let's have some real fun tonight. We could kill this doctor. He's been like doing bad stuff, and she's like, Oh, I got it.

SPEAKER_01

But I thought we were gonna have like a date.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I thought this was date night, yeah, and he ends up getting called away because there's like problems at the kitchen, and he's like, Oh, you thought it was like I think he starts to kind of like realize like my bad, but also he has to go. So he just like high kilns.

SPEAKER_01

He's got a business to run and shit's woven up in his kitchen. He works two jobs and never stops.

SPEAKER_00

Like, yeah, he's busy, man. He's rebutts.

unknown

He's a rebut.

SPEAKER_00

Um, fast forward later in the year, they're doing their annual August showdown. This time we get Harvey Mead. Oh my god. This remember this name. This is one evil motherfucker. Yeah, he is terrifying. This guy is like chainsaw massacre. Straight terrifying. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like he's got like a dirty dirt cellar with like a hatch that has like a deadbolt chain lock thing on like he is He's got he's keeping people down there.

SPEAKER_00

Like he actively, he's not even just like killing people, he actively has people. When they get there, he is actively chainsawing someone into pieces. I think he like chases them around with the chainsaw for a while, but he also lives in this like creepy old house. He's got like a boarded up room that they don't know what the hell's going on in that room. Like we're getting a lot of like Ed Gini Texas chainsaw massacre, like some bad stuff's happening there. And we get to meet Autumn. Spoiler warning, keep this name in your mind for the next four weeks because we'll be talking about her again. Um, she is hanging out down in the cellar. They end up saving her, getting her out of there, and like sending her on her way. Basically, Sloane just gives her a shirt and is like, Well, best of luck in your future endeavors, and then off she goes. Then Harvey Meade fucking boot fucks Sloane in the face into this cellar with Autumn. Yeah, it's fucking brutal. It's rude. He saves her and saves Autumn out of the thing, and like I said, Autumn just runs off into the forest and she's like, Thanks so much, bye guys. Yeah, gotta go. He stops, he finally kisses Sloane, then he runs off and she's like, Where the fuck are you going? And he's like, getting revenge for hurting my girl, of course. Obviously. Girl? Like, why doesn't my husband kill people for me?

SPEAKER_01

You're not getting kicked in the face and like dropped into a cellar.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, well, I don't really like that part of the deal. Well, you can't have one without the other. So okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like, damn.

SPEAKER_01

I think that this is probably the funniest shit I've ever read in my life. When they're killing Harvey Mead, and Sloan is dragging his mummified mother's corpse towards him and like talking to him with like an old lady southern accent. Mama. Listen to the audiobook. If you're not an audiobook person, at least just listen to this chapter because it will kick you right in the giggle, dick.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. This is dragging the birth 13, so she is dragging the body too hardy.

SPEAKER_01

And like basically mother berating him with the You've been a bad boy.

SPEAKER_00

And like, but also she literally scares him. To death. To death. Yes. Yeah. Well, and they've done like Bryn has done such a good job with this because again, this is like some of that weird Ed Geen stuff where it's like keeping the mother like preserved. Like, as humans, when we read about stuff like that, you're like, man, that's so twisted. And to see this guy who is literally chainsawing people apart, he's like murdering all these people. He lives in this scary ass house that would already scare me to death. And he obviously kept the corpse of his mother in the house. All they did was just bring her along and do a little fucking ventriloquism with it. And that scared him to death. Like it just, it's so Deadpool coded, and I just love it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and Deadpool's like probably my favorite movie of all time. Modern movie of all time. Yeah, I would agree. It just feels good.

SPEAKER_00

It feels good. And so, like we said, Sloan got booted right in the face. Her arm is also busted. They're gonna go see Dr. Fionn Kane. And we get to meet Rose. I love her. We will meet her again later on. Yep. Um she is like quirky, she's weird, and she spends a lot of the time like fighting with Rowan. She when he first approaches the house, she's like fighting him with a cane. And it like it really reminds me of Sybi from Haunting Adeline.

SPEAKER_01

I've never even thought of that. That she does kind of have like Sibi tendencies. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

She really does. Like she just says like crazy kind of shit. She was from the circus, she's very like off the cuff and just does like weird shit. And the first time that I read it, I was like, this is Sybi. That is 100% Sybi. And Sybi is one of my favorite all-time characters. I love her so much. And we finally, finally get the spice. Rowan helps Sloan like once I get her all like fixed up, he helps her into the bath and he finally sees her naky and he sees all of her piercings. And they bang, and she has a four shette piercing. This is one of the only times that I've encountered this in a book, and it's like it's crazy for it to be on the FMC. Normally it's it's always the MMC. Or they're like, oh, she has her nipples pierced.

SPEAKER_01

Brynn doesn't write a weak bitch.

SPEAKER_00

No, no.

SPEAKER_01

She's like Brynn writes a girl that will kick you straight in the dick. And I don't think that this, I don't think that this is like an exaggeration either. Like every female character that Bryn writes is like the most badass, tough bitch you've ever met in your life. So it just feels fitting for her to be like Yes, to be like, I have four piercings in my Veget.

SPEAKER_00

Like you're of course you do.

SPEAKER_01

Like I do, I wouldn't even question you.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, and also, like, this is something I'd really like to ask Bryn if we ever get the opportunity. Oh god. Does she write her characters based around herself? Not what kind of piercings does she have? Hey, Brynn, sure.

SPEAKER_01

So I'd say that the gun has four cooch piercings. Do you ever write your characters about you? What's your cooch looking like? No, shut the hell up. Get your mind out of the gun. Oh my God. We're gonna get restraining ordered.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. 100%. Um, no, are your female main characters like based around you? Like, do you know women that are this badass? Yeah, because I cosplay a woman this badass in life, but I'm not really like I'm weak. Like it's so funny.

SPEAKER_01

It's so this is these are the hard-hitting questions that I need to answer. Are you a serial killer in your spare time? How many genital piercings do you have? Do you eat ice cream? Human ass.

SPEAKER_00

These these are the questions that we need answered. We're here, guys, to get you the answers that we know we're all curious about. Oh, when's your next next book coming out? Who cares about that? When's your next appointment? Can we come? Can we see pictures of it? Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I also know how long it took for Sloane and Rowan to finally have sex. Yes. Girl, by the time we get here. Years, years. It has been what three years? Three years since their initial like me cute in the cage. Yeah. And Rowan is like a fuck on sight kind of man. Yeah. He beat a guy to death for you. Right. The least you could have done was touch his dick a little.

SPEAKER_00

100%.

SPEAKER_01

100%.

SPEAKER_00

Just a little wiggle.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like for sure. I'm a sucker for a slow burn, so I'll definitely let it slide this time. Um, because when we finally get to that scene, oh my fucking god. Like he is such a golden retriever with with her specifically. Yes. Unless they fucking oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

Or killing.

SPEAKER_01

Those are his two times where he just like the switch flips and it slips.

SPEAKER_00

That's yes, that's why he has written so well because he is the ultimate golden retriever man. It's not even just that he is, he is so goofy and silly and like childish and just doesn't take anything seriously until it's like the rules in the bedroom, and then he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What made you think that I was not in charge here? I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02

My bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's wrong. Like he is driving the bus, baby. He drove the bus the whole way. And the slow burn and the yearning that was like waiting, it was four years for these two to get together, is like it is insane. But also the way that this book is written, there's so much else going on that you are fully invested. Every chapter is interesting. There's no fill-ins, there's no nothing like that. It is all plot, all story. You don't even realize that you have waited half the book for them to fuck, for them to kiss, for them to really anything. Like it is, it's wild when you realize that. Also, Rowan has a raven tattoo of what the drawing that Sloan left at three and that shitty stick bird drawing that she did. You got a lot of his body. And like, I don't even think my husband has kept like cards that I've made him. So they also weren't very good. Just saying. It's okay. Um, so after this whole thing happens and she's been like fixed up and everything's like better with her.

SPEAKER_01

Oh she was fixed up real good. Fixed up.

SPEAKER_00

Rowan is like, I am taking you home to Boston. Like you're coming with me, you do like remote work. Fuck it. You're hello, we've been together for four years. Now that we've banged, like, just so you know, like we are getting married. Yeah. It's just, it's only a matter of time. We could take a chill if you want, or we could go get married today, but like you're moving in with me, which is perfect. Yeah. So Sloan moves to Boston. Her bestie, Lark, is visiting her. They all go to three in coach. The hostess then explains to them that like this table has been permanently reserved for her. And Sloan mentions the install of security cameras in the kitchen. This took me like four reads to pick up on this. Okay. Four reads. Put that in your head.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

A lot. A lot. So Rowan is then, everyone's down to like celebrate the opening of his new restaurant.

SPEAKER_01

And it's called Butcher and Blackbird. The name of the book. So good.

SPEAKER_00

It's crack, man. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

It makes me so happy when they do this for me.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, we've said it a million times. You put the name of the book, like, bro, we will like just make the whole book just the name of the book over and over and over again, and we're fucking in. Yeah. Because it is crack. Um, Sloan helps Rowan work on a new dessert for the menu. He eats her puss on the table. And this is why I don't trust other people's cooking. Yeah, because you know that this shit is happening at restaurants. There is bodily fluids on shit. Yes. 100%. Your own food, guys. People are dirty. Yeah. It's the opening night of the new restaurant. Rowan is kind of like spiraling because Sloan is late. And I love this because, girl, I can relate. I spiral daily. I love when you see the like gritty anxious character, especially when it's an MMC, because it shows me that men are real people. Maybe. Arguable. Arguable.

SPEAKER_01

Rowan is gonna meet Sloan at the Raincoach to see if he can fix a fan that isn't working property. And when he gets there, David is chilling in the corner, in the dark, rocking. Someone forgot to drive David home. But then we have the biggest plot twist of fucking all time. Yes. David speaks and he wants Rowan to send Sloan away, otherwise, he will kill her.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. He is a bad guy. His name is David Miller. He was also a serial killer. And him and Thorsten were working together. They were aware of Rowan and Sloan. It kind of seems like David was a little bit more like he was a serial killer, whereas Thorsten was a cannibal. Yeah. And so they were kind of like working together. Yeah. He was like, hey, I like killing people. And he was like, hey, I like eating people that are killed. So they were like, ha, we can help each other. That's exactly how that went. Yes. No doubt in my mind. That is a perfect recording of exactly that conversation.

SPEAKER_01

100%.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and so he was aware, David was aware of who Rowan and Sloan were. He was like, I know that this is the Butcher of Boston, I know that this is the Orb Weaver, and I kind of also know that they've been around taking other serial killers out because that's what both of them do.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, because I literally watched them when I was pretending to have a lobotomy.

SPEAKER_00

And oh my god, he's so unassuming. He is so unassuming, and because he is kind of like low-key in the background, like throughout, like for these last couple chapters, I know we just get chillin'.

SPEAKER_01

I know we don't get an actual description of him, um, other than the fact that he acts the way he does. Yes. But I picture him like a fucking baked bean, little tiny four foot eleven bald man that wears like corduroy pants and sweater vests with clip-on bow ties and loafers. And I picture like Mr.

SPEAKER_00

Bean total opposite. I picture like the main character from the Green Mile, except like a white version of him, like a big fuck-off motherfucker who wears overalls and is like needs help putting his overalls on, and you know, but everyone's like, he's just a gentle giant, he's just my big teddy bear. Like, I just picture this big fucking like six, four, three hundred pounds. So again, Bryn, these are the hard-hitting questions we need the answers to. Anyway, sorry. What does David Miller look like? Give us just which one of us is right, or are we both wrong?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like, either I'm right or we're both wrong. Um, so Sloane worries that she is too much of a burden for Rowan. Like, girl, because he's also been like spiraling. He's been like very distant. And then he gives her a call because he's been told to by David Miller, and he's like, You need to go home. You need to go back to Raleigh, it's where you belong. Um, he's like, I don't want to be with you. Like, we can never have a normal life. Maybe I want a normal life. He's like, You're a monster. Which is so sad. It is shit.

SPEAKER_01

She's trying to tell him, I need you to tell me why I'm unlovable.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, Because you're a fucking psycho. What?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think I would leave in this situation. I would be like, oh. You want to see a fucking psycho?

SPEAKER_00

I'd be like, You're attacking my mother. You're in his love.

SPEAKER_01

But I also don't have like the emotional trauma that she does, and I'm not a serial killer for the reasons that she does. So I guess that's probably why we both took it in different ways. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's right. It's awful though. It's so fucking sick.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it is gut-wrenching too. Because again, like you get these are all of her insecurities. This is why she didn't open herself up to people. This is why she was like, you know, didn't have any relationships. But also she felt this about herself and she's like, bro, I have one friend. Like that's it. It's Lark. And she loves me because I saved her life. So, like, bro. So after she is obviously a fucking mess. She's talking to Lark and she's like, I just don't even know. Like, and she's like, tell me exactly what that bitch said because I'm a cut him. And she's like, I don't know, it was super weird because he was like talking about um something when I when he took me there between April 10th and 13th. And we didn't go to that. And she puts it together: freshly milked semen between April 10th and 13th. An ingredient on that delicious cookies and cream ice cream. And who did they know that was eating cookies and cream ice cream? David.

SPEAKER_01

And so And thank God she's a genius. Because if that was the hint that was dropped to me, I'd be like, yeah, I was fucking there. I watched him eat the chem ice cream. Like, what do you mean I'm unlovable? I would just be so fixated on the meme shit he said to me.

SPEAKER_00

I wouldn't save anyone. No. And then I would just be riddled with the guilt forever. Yes. So then we flash to Rowan's point of view. And David, this nice little guy that he is, is slicing through Rowan's skin with a mandolin. And ain't that just great?

SPEAKER_01

That is that that is the grossest part of this whole book.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it really does.

SPEAKER_01

Give me 20 pints of jizz and cookies, bro. I do not want to visualize someone getting their skin mandolin. No. And he's also got like a corkscrew shoved into his arm. Yeah. Like it's literally like through him so that he's like pinned to the chair or the table.

SPEAKER_00

Like a corkscrew. Bro, if you even tried to use a corkscrew and a cork, it ain't good. Imagine in someone, oh, it just it. I don't want to. It really hurts. And the whole time Rowan is like falling apart thinking about how he hurt Sloan. He's not even like worried about his life.

SPEAKER_01

You're getting mandolined and he's he's getting literally filleted, and he's like, but I hurt her feelings. That's the kind of man that I need in my life. If you're not yearning for me while you're being loved by a thousand people on what is it?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. What what is this love? Also, Joe Arden, when he does David, is so good. He does crazy like he is crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I think he might be.

SPEAKER_00

He might be. We need to look at Joe. We got some questions for you too, my guy. Sloan shows up basically because when she mentioned earlier the cameras, Sloan being the little stalkerino that she is. The genius. She installed a camera in the kitchen so she could watch Rowan. So when David turned off the cameras, he didn't know about Sloane's camera because nobody knew. Because you know that she had that camera set up in there.

SPEAKER_01

And she she was getting live action of Rowan in the kitchen. Right? Yeah. You know that there were some special requests being.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, hundred percent. 100%. I need you to make cookies and cream, ice cream today. Yeah, I know that she was calling in the request. There's a special place in hell for you. I know. Um, Sloane shows up and she tricks David into like thinking, like, oh, you thought that I wanted Rowan? No, I wanted you. Like, I knew the whole time that you were playing. I just want to see how far you would play. Like, I'm just so impressed with you. Like, just totally, you know, puts it right into his ego.

SPEAKER_01

If you're visualizing David as what I do, it's so funny. If you're visualizing David as you do, it kind of makes more sense.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, I don't know. That's I don't know. We we have questions, Bryn. And she tricks him and she fucks him up. Yes. So she's a badass. She don't need no man to defend her. And Rowan, she like helps her and she like uncorkscrews him. And he's like, I this will just be so sorry. Yeah. I weaponized your insecurities, even though like I did it to save you. And it's gonna take me a long time to like, you know, fix this, and I'm so fucking sorry about everything. And she's like, Well, it's gonna take a lot of fucking groveling, but fine.

SPEAKER_01

After they also I read your guys' first sex scene. I don't think it's gonna take that much groveling. Be so fucking for real right now.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Just do that tongue thing again, and all is forgiven.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

100%. Yeah. So they have survived. They're moving in together. They lived or they live together. Sloane has a surprise for Rowan, so we're gonna pretend like she is really good at art. She designs a tattoo to cover up Rowan's scar. And it's like a heart, it's something that like blends together. It's so good, but it's good. It's not a bad one.

SPEAKER_01

Also, like if he was mandolined, you're not tattooing over that skin.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no. I mean, you could try, but you could try. Maybe they took butt skin first and put the butt skin on.

SPEAKER_01

The ink ain't no fucking way. You were mandolined. You think I forgot about that? You think I forgot that?

SPEAKER_00

Bro, every time I use my mandolin, I am like, it terrifies me. I'm like, I gotta get rid of this thing. Yes. Like, I really fucking hate this. They decide that they're going to catch the forest phantom together. Okay. Which we must discuss in a minute. So put that in your brain. That I want no, let's discuss it now.

SPEAKER_01

Also, real quick, before we discuss that, I want Bryn to give me a nickname. Because if this is like the fun shit she comes up, the butcher of Boston, the Orb Weaver. Right? Forest Phantom. I want to be the Forest Phantom. Give me a nickname, Bryn. I don't care. Just like one quick up-down me in real life, and I want a nickname. And it better be good.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, well, I also want a nickname.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, well, I get one first. I get to use a cable first. You get the backup name. You get Lobotomy David name. That's a good name. I know.

SPEAKER_00

It's not as good as the forest phantom. Okay, sorry. I went on a tangent. Okay, so the forest phantom, does do you remember who is who is this character? Do we meet him? Do we meet him in Love and Other Killers? Is that who the Forest Phantom is?

SPEAKER_01

Like who who? Do we get his name? Is that what you're asking?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like do we get his name? Do we know who he is or what his book is? Uh yes. Okay, so we will cover it later. Because right now I don't remember. My brain, I'm like, uh it's kind of mush, and I'm like fitting a whole bunch of things together. I think he's loving other killers, or is he Cape Carnage? Is that the Forest Phantom?

SPEAKER_01

Uh now that you're asking me these questions, I don't know if I have an answer.

SPEAKER_00

Without without looking into it. I don't know. I've read already over 80 books this year. They all kind of fucking blend in together, okay?

SPEAKER_02

Like it's yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I know because I was thinking about it and I was like, is this Love and Other Killers? I think it is, but there's also times, well, and I guess like it's really hard to say with Cape Carnage because it's not done. Because there's also times where I'm like, is this this? Like, is she yeah, okay, so I guess really we really couldn't know because it hasn't been completed. Anyways, so end of the book. Sloan and Rowan have killed the doctor. Yeah. Sloan is working on her orb weaver. And this is the doctor that Rowan had been like, we're gonna have a good time tonight when he invited her to the like best of Boston. She was like, good time, bitch. I thought we were gonna have sex. And Rowan is kind of like roasting her. He's like, Yeah, that eye hole that you like ripped his eye out of, it looks kind of bad. Like it looked like you fucking gouged it. And she's like, I didn't fucking gouge it. He's like, I don't know, you should look closer. And she's like, I'ma look. And there's a ring in the eye.

SPEAKER_02

In the eye hole.

SPEAKER_00

And inside of it is also the page from the beginning that's like giving out the rules for the August annual showdown. And at the very bottom, underneath all the different rules, he writes, Mary Sloane Sutherland and love her forever if she'll let you.

SPEAKER_01

If she'll let you.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you know she's gonna let you. You know she's gonna let you.

SPEAKER_01

Could you imagine having to explain to people when you're like engaged and like, oh my god, tell us the proposal story? And you have to come up with some boring shit on the spot because are you supposed to tell them that he put the ring in an eye hole?

SPEAKER_00

Right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, wait, okay, I think the forest phantom is the guy from Leather and Lark. But they always call him the Phantom.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Forest Forest Phantom, or is he just the Phantom? I feel like I'm really dumb right now for not knowing the answer to this because I think we know the answer to this.

SPEAKER_00

I think we know the answer to it, but I think we're just adding in too much Bryn. And if this is bullshit, I'll just cut it out. Because I can control that. Um, and that is the end of that one.

SPEAKER_01

That is the end of Butcher Blackbird. I'm gonna say this, and I know I've said this before, and unlike you, my answer has not changed.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, ever. I think that this might be top three best book I have ever read. And like you said, last year alone combined, we read over 600 books.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The year before that, same. The year before that, the same.

SPEAKER_00

Like we've been reading a steady hundreds of years.

SPEAKER_01

300 plus books a year.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know, fucking 20 years. Exactly. A long time. A long time.

SPEAKER_01

I do feel though, like the fact that I reread this book multiple times a year.

SPEAKER_00

A year, yeah. That it's only, if you think about it, it's only been out for three years, and we've read it what, 10 times? At least.

SPEAKER_01

At least you know how some people like girls are like they have their like comfort serial killer documentary, and that's what they put on to like relax at the end of the day. This is my comfort serial killer documentary. Yeah, it just makes me feel so good inside.

SPEAKER_00

It does make you feel good inside. Well, it also it just I I think like the reason why I like this book so much. Number one, it's hilarious. Number two, it's one of the first times that I encountered the like serial killers killing other serial killers, but in kind of like a quirky, funny way. Because you do get like with a lot of dark romance books, it's very serious, you know? Like it's like this, I am a scary book. I'm a scary book. I am a scary man.

SPEAKER_01

You read my 17 pages of trigger warnings, yeah. And like that's fine. If you need your trigger warning page to determine whether or not you're gonna read a book, like absolutely take that.

SPEAKER_00

Right? Like, good Anya. I've only ever had one book that I actually DNF'd, and it was this year. Because they killed a pet. You know what? A trigger warning wouldn't have even, I would have been like, What? Like, yeah, I don't even think a trigger warning would have stopped me. And that's the first time that I went like, nah. Whereas like this book, it does have lots of trigger warnings, and there's definitely people who are like, oh my god, I cannot read this and eat at the same time. And to that I say, weak. Cause I can, but it also it's just it's so funny, and I think that another reason why I absolutely just adore this book is because it totally blew up in the book community because you get to see people's art, you get to see how many people enjoy it, you know, it's gonna become a movie, like, but also like Brynn is such a nice, sweet, caring individual, so you're happy for her to be like getting the success that she deserves all the recognition. She deserves it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But also, I feel like the reason she's getting like a lot of these like artists and stuff are putting their attention towards making fan art is because she writes her characters in a way that I can picture them. So if I can picture them and I'm a fucking garbage mortal trash nobody, if I can picture them, these insanely talented artists who are creating this fan art, man, that's fucking served on a silver platter. Here's your description. Make it happen, Captain.

SPEAKER_00

Like Which also, Bryn, we really need a redheaded character. Like, I get it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I've been pretty happy that every single one of her female characters has been me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's kind of sad because we really need a female redheaded character. Just saying, girl, I would love to cosplay one of these characters without wearing a wig. Like, if you could just help a girl out, like my hair does not take to hair dye. So, like, just if you could write a whole book around the fact that I want to dress up as your character, that'd be a lot less work than me dyeing my hair.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's really not asking for that much.

SPEAKER_00

It's really, it's really asking for nothing. Yeah. Um, thanks so much for listening, guys. We have got some fun Sloan and Rowan cosplay coming up. So you can check that out on our socials. We are very active on Instagram, but you can find us on really anything. We are everywhere. Smuts it. We're everywhere. We're in your house. Um, and if you have any questions, woo, that's us. That's why your hair looks so nice when you wake up. If you have any questions, comments, or just looking at chat, you can email us at smutsyndicate at gmail.com. Thanks so much for listening. Live mortal trash.