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SPEAKER_00

Well, good morning, good uh afternoon almost. Good day. Good day. How are we? So uh it's a a beautiful, beautiful day. One of the first beautiful days, hopefully the start of them all to come.

SPEAKER_01

We are in spring.

SPEAKER_00

I know. It is official.

SPEAKER_01

It is official. I didn't realize that until uh Instagram told me. I was seeing all these, yay, it's spring. I was like, oh. And you know, I don't I'm still trying to accept it. It's not quite spring in my eyes, just because I hate spring. I that sounds bad. I don't hate spring, but I also hate spring. Do you understand?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I do. I you know, when I was uh driving up today, the one thing I noticed um was your bushes out front, but they were cut. Oh real short. Real short. That was probably husband. Uh it it made me laugh because I did the same thing to my rose bushes. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yours was more of a violent out outburst.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it it was.

SPEAKER_01

You're trying to kill them, right? Or no?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think kind of, and I I'm not sure if that's gonna come about, but it made me feel a little bit better. And I drove in and I was like, huh, I'm not the only one that likes to hack at them.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, absolutely. Well, I hate to tell you this, but I think I think you hack them so they come back stronger. So you might want to put some roundup on that. I don't know. I might need to, but roundups, that's still a thing, right? It is still a thing. Interesting. I got the spray. I like the spray, yeah. It's lethal. That's what my husband does. He has like a legit backpack.

SPEAKER_00

So did my do you do that? So I don't have a backpack one. My dad does. And I just remember him walking around.

SPEAKER_01

He looks like a like Rocket Man or something. No, Ghostbusters. Oh, yeah, duh. That was that was dumb. I should have sorry. Ghostbusters. It looks like Ghostbusters. We'll leave that in. That is the benefit, though, to self-producing your own podcast, is you get to edit yourself. Yeah. You can't do much, though. Otherwise, you're like not saying anything. Correct. It is. We're very hard on ourselves. But um, I'll tell you who's not hard on ourselves is our listeners. No. We've had some really nice, um, nice feedback. Um, people really like it when we talk about them specifically. So I'll give a shout out to my mom and my mother-in-law. Hi. Um, my mother-in-law sent me a really cute message just saying like she just really appreciated like what we were saying, and it was just it was really nice. Really nice. Oh, that's super sweet. And then shout out to one of our listeners. Um, she revealed that we were in the shower with her because um we were on her like shower speaker. Oh, I love that.

SPEAKER_00

I, you know, if you guys will, we're willing to go wherever you want us to go with you. Absolutely. So we'll shield our eyes, no judgment, whatever you want to do. No judgment.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, it's it's funny. Um, I don't know if it's just to me, it's more so podcasts than Instagram, but like it's very um intimate and personal when you don't realize it. Like the like where you're listening, and I think they even call it like a parasocial relationship where the listener feels connected to you. Now, right now, obviously, a lot of our listeners we are connected to them. Yes, we haven't made it big yet or anything. Hopefully. We don't have we don't have any stalkers, nothing like that. Not that I want that, although I do have a story about that. Um, it's not actually a stalking story, but literally last night we are we have like a a barn that's on our property. And we were it was like 11 o'clock at night, and we opened the door to walk down to the house, and there's a guy just walking on the street. Oh, and it was very alarming. It is 11 o'clock at night. I mean, we live on like all back roads, it's not a common thing to see someone just taking a night walk. And he said to us, Well, you guys scared me. Um I'm sorry. What are you telling us what to say to you? Because that's yeah, I was like kind of irked like the whole rest of the yeah, I didn't really obviously I didn't sleep well last night. Um, yeah, I don't I don't know. So that was kind of creepy.

SPEAKER_00

Um, unrelated to podcasting and stalking, but um well, i uh on another note with people just showing up outside of your door. Yeah, love this. So my son had his cousin over, and they were outside and they decided they wanted to set off some fireworks, and I told them they needed to go down into the cul-de-sac and do it, not up by the house. Right. So I really couldn't hear them. I didn't think they were that loud. Um and my boyfriend said, Hey, you guys, let's hope the cops don't show up, jokingly.

SPEAKER_01

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_00

And I had no idea that he had said that. And he walked away and he goes, I'm just playing, guys. It's fine, it's fine, you're fine. Literally five minutes later, oh no, a cop rolls off. And he's just sitting there, and my son and his cousin looked at each other like, um, did we do something wrong? Apparently, somebody over the hill, which was way over the hill, not any of our neighbors that know us or anything like that, said they thought it was rifle shots.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, wow.

SPEAKER_00

The cop pulls up and he's talking to him, and my son goes over and he's like, I swear we didn't do anything. He's like, dude, you set off as many fireworks or firecrackers, fireworks as you want. He's like, you know, the noise ordinance, you know, you can do that until 11 p.m. I don't care. He's like, It doesn't matter what you do. And he just thought it was hysterical that these boys were doing that, and he didn't really he was really nice about it. My daughter was like, Oh, they're gonna take us away. But yeah, I just thought it was uh, you know, we talk about random people, visitors, and I'm like, oh god.

SPEAKER_01

You just brought up my mom will love this. She revealed that not revealed, that's not the right word. She shared with me that um she likes it when I bring up things from my childhood because she kind of like relives it, or or she's like, this is the first time I'm hearing this. Um I was speaking of police and cops. I think I was like five, I think. And I I do what every five-year-old's gonna do. You pick up the phone, you dial 911, you hang up. What a high. I mean, oh my god. And I remember I did I did that. I remember doing it. I remember hanging up, the the excitement, my heart's racing. Well, apparently they called back.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And my I think my parents, my parents must have answered. Mommy, let me know in the comments of the latest podcast episode if uh if this is true. But I guess, you know, the real life adult conversation versus what five-year-old me gets to hear is they're on their way and they're gonna talk to you about phone safe, like all like when to call not. I was so scared. I was scared straight. I uh that that did it for me. Like I just remember thinking, oh my god, they're on the way, they're gonna come take me. Like and then they never came.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, well, I mean, that's it's which is good. Yeah, that is good. I I did the same thing, but not on purpose. You know, our um one wireless, you know, phone that we had when we had phone lines, you know, before before cell phones, you know, technology. Well, when you would type in the beginning of somebody's phone number, um, sometimes some of the buttons didn't work. Oh yeah. And there were one or two times where the last four in the number, it was nine one one zero. Yeah, so I I happened to call that number and the other numbers were not going through because I guess I wasn't hitting it hard enough. And the only ones that went through were the 911. Nice. And they called me back and I was like, I answered because I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01

That's good. Because if you didn't answer, they'd be on their way, probably.

SPEAKER_00

You know, and I they're like, Are you okay? Like, yes. I'm so sorry. I was like, I was trying to call this number, and our phone is just not working appropriately. And they were like, Is there a parent home with you? And I was like, Yeah. They're like, Can I talk to your parent? I was like, Yeah. And I remember handing the phone over to my mom, and she just kind of looked at me. Yeah, she answered and she talked to it, and we ended up getting a new phone after that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's so funny. But funny how you know they're doing their job, they're doing the right thing. But to a child, it's like scares the living deep crap. Yeah, it's okay. One other thing I'll mention just because this is fun. Uh, this has nothing to do with 911. But have you ever I think it I think I was 10, I had a friend. Her name was Julie. Julie was older, maybe like two years or something, and I was like, so cool. I have an older friend. She was in my neighborhood, and she probably felt bad for me. But I remember calling her to play and she didn't answer, so I left a message and I said, Hi Amy, it's Julie. Uh I mean Julie, it's Amy. Uh, and then I like hung off. And I was really, really, really embarrassed.

SPEAKER_00

I it wasn't a ones that you could have canceled that message before it goes through.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I'm sure there's an episode somewhere where I have to break into her house and take the tape and reset it and put it back. Yeah. Those days are gone. Now you can unsend messages on your phone and Yeah, edit them and all kinds of stuff. But you didn't we had to go through what we went through to know that we needed that editing software. So I mean, technology, while it's great. We're the pioneers of why we're living in the comfort that we're living in. We are.

SPEAKER_00

And I I will I will say though, I do I do think we have still too much. Huh. Too much technology. Totally agree. But you know, who am I?

SPEAKER_01

Who are we to say? Yeah. It's fine. Because someone out there is like, well, it's all about the boundary that you put in place. Bitch, that stuff is addicting on purpose. It is, unfortunately. Anyway, upload, now I gotta check the box for explicit content. Sorry, everybody.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you and your bad words, like, what's wrong with you? How dare you? You're sailor. Oh my gosh, my language.

SPEAKER_01

My child is so hard trying to like like tempt like swear words, but so she'll ask me. She's like, I I guess the entire uh state of Pennsylvania, it was National Spread Manure Day. Oh, yeah. Everywhere. I mean, everywhere I went, I saw I saw tractors staging, like they're getting it's a big deal.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's the first day of spring. Yeah, well, F then.

SPEAKER_01

Spring, see, spring's already off to a shitty start. Oh, pun intended. There we go. But no, spring's been great so far. Um, but uh she she goes, she gets in the car. We I don't know where we were going somewhere. We get in the car and she goes, Mom, can I say can I say the the bad word about how it smells outside? And I was like, sure, go ahead. It smells like she's like, I can't say it. It's actually cute. It is, it's really cute because I'm noticing that like if you don't think it's a big deal, they don't want to do it. Like it, you're take you're taking the the the wind out of the sails, kind of. Like if I made a huge stink about, no, I don't want you to say that, well, she's gonna want to go hard on that, right? Yeah, isn't that what they say? Like, you have to just be like nonchalant or really into it, because then they don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_00

I know. If you're really into anything, your kids don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_01

It's true. So um I heard a really funny, it's actually on a different podcast, but it was it was advice for like your child when they just turn 18 and they want to get a tattoo, and you don't let's say you don't want them to, you can say, Oh my gosh, I'm gonna I love that idea. I'm gonna get that. And then they won't. It's like a way to delay it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I I don't know if that actually works. I just don't have the desire to do it, so for me it wasn't.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, we can't did was that on the podcast we have tattoo chat? Oh, tattoo chats. I like that. That's a podcast out there. I'm sure that is um, but anyway, so yeah, it it smells lovely out. Um manure is in the air. Man, it is it is rank. I mean, it's it's bad. It almost smells human, but I I know that's not apparently that was like that was a controversy in the uh lower York County um several years ago. Someone was spreading human. Yeah, it was it was like all the rage. It was um people were raging, and uh I I don't know if they were fined or whatever, but they had to obviously stop. So that's that's recycling in a whole other it's composting next level. No thanks. No, no thanks. Um switching gears.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um how was your week? It was an interesting week. It was um full of lots of ups and downs. I'm gonna do that. I would yeah, I would say full of lots of ups and downs. Um not just at work, but weather, just everything. Everything, you know, kind of yeah, just just a lot. But it's okay, cause next, you know, tomorrow's a new week and we're gonna start fresh and go from there. Um, I do think um there's so much ebb and flow in the industry that we're in. There's so much ebb and flow in the life that we're in. Um I was, you know, talking to one of my friends yesterday about just how unstable things have felt lately um in all of life. So I I think a lot of people right now are just kind of going through it um in all aspects, whether that's you know, their personal life, mental health, work, um, children, anything. Um and as hard as it is, I think one of the best things that all of us can do is kind of try to be there the best way that we know how to for each other. Um, and that was the other thing we were talking about. Um nobody asks for help.

SPEAKER_01

I'm really guilty of that.

SPEAKER_00

Like, especially women, um we we don't ever ask for help. It's a really hard concept for us. Um I was thinking about that um as a child. It was I don't ever remember being encouraged, I think to a certain extent to ask for help, but then you don't watch people ask for help. So I I do feel like we live in a a world, and this is something I want to do better myself. Um we live in a world of do what I say as opposed to do what I do. You know what I mean? Well there's a saying about it. So yeah, there is.

SPEAKER_01

Um I think it's um I I agree a lot about what you're saying, and I kind of think it's miss it's misled and misguided uh good intentions. You have especially right now, it's like, oh, you want to raise a strong independent woman. Well, okay, yes, but independent doesn't necessarily mean isolated and doing it all by yourself, but that's the messaging that we get. And then on top of that, we have women who are raising little girls and no uh fault to them really, but yeah, they're not modeling. Hey, it's not normal to like have a child and then just be alone raising the child. We were meant to be like in villages and women helping with everything. I mean, back to that whole point, women supporting women. Well, no, that's not all.

SPEAKER_00

And the thing is, is like you all try to say that. Um, again, we live in a very clicky world to that extent, too. And it's like if you're in that click, then you're gonna support each other. If you're not in that click, then you're gonna, you know, be against the still fragile.

SPEAKER_01

It very is even if you're in a click, it still feels fragile because it's am I safe in this click? Are they if we're talking about other people as soon as I leave the room, am I added to that? And this goes back to the you know, the confidence thing. Don't be the one. When someone else leaves the room, don't lead with talking about them as soon as they leave the room. Like you, that's the kind of stuff we have to model. Right. That's what confidence looks like is not saying anything.

SPEAKER_00

Not saying anything. Like just letting it go.

SPEAKER_01

Letting it go. Yeah, letting it go or letting things speak for themselves. That's usually where like action always comes first. But it's it's hard and it is because we're also designed to gossip, like, and it feels good. I'm sorry. It feels so good to talk about Katrina and her whatever. Yeah. I mean, we're not talking about Nancy, okay? We're we beat up with Nancy enough. Now it's Katrina. That name just I don't know where that came from. Um, I don't know what Katrina. Shout out Katrina, if you're listening. I don't yeah. Anyway, um, but yeah, so I've just I to what you're saying, you're right. We're not modeled or we're encouraged to be independent, but we really don't understand what that actually means. Right.

SPEAKER_00

And and I think we feel like if you ask for help, you failed. Yeah. Like that's shows weakness. Is it shows weakness? I think men are like that too. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we're all kind of like that. It's like, oh my gosh, if I could get this all done, like everybody's gonna be like, yeah. And then you're like, wait a minute, who's everybody?

SPEAKER_02

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00

And so like in my head now, I try to be like, okay, wait, but if you if I'm not asking for help and I'm struggling, like people are gonna see that too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But then if I get it all done and I do it, who's it for? Who's it for? And does anybody really care anyways? And so like it all comes back to like Yeah, that's uh Does if you really think about it like that, like is somebody gonna be like, Well, you didn't have to do that all on your own? I mean, good for you, but I don't know why you didn't ask for help. It's a good point.

SPEAKER_01

Who is your audience in a sense? What are you looking for a pat on the back? Are you looking for the applause?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, that's or do you do it by yourself quietly and then just move on? And so I feel like I'm I'm more of that. Like I'll do something by myself quietly and then just move on to somebody, I'll be like, it needed to be done, so I just did it. Sometimes I do things because I actually like doing them. Yep. I might not say it out loud.

SPEAKER_01

I think that's that's the difference right there. Okay. Confidence is what you just described. It's that quiet, I dare say I enjoy the thing, whatever, but it's just it's a thing that needed to be done, and that's it. Yeah. The opposite of that, I haven't decided what word I want to use, but it's performative. I'm I'm doing this, but it's because I need the accolades and I need you to know that I did this. That's not confidence, that's showmanship. I don't I don't know what what the word is, but there it is hopefully. I mean, we're all I'd like to think old enough that we can now spot those things. Because it's usually like the I don't know, the show off y person or the person who just has to be right, uh almost like self righteous. Like there's a difference between like knowing yourself. worth and being self-righteous. I feel like those things are supposed to be not connected at all. But it just is it is frustrating to see in in real life.

SPEAKER_00

It is. And again, it's the world we live in and I don't know that you know that's it's been a consistent thing for ever and ever and ever.

SPEAKER_01

So it's it's true. It just it hurts when it affects you personally. Like entitlement. Like um I was telling you this a little bit off air but like I had I had a conversation with someone who I hadn't seen in a while and thought they were just happy to see me and then within five minutes of the conversation they're already asking of something of me. And it's like can you just read the room for a minute? Like why can't we all just understand that not everybody's at your beck and call. Right. Um even if they're I don't know in any instance whether it's even your employer like that doesn't mean they they have to listen all the time or that they're there.

SPEAKER_00

Even your friends. I think you know everybody has something that is on their mind that's bothering them that is sitting in their head and they need to get it out. And hopefully you have somebody that you can go and you can let it out and they can report back to you. They don't metabolize it. They don't take it personally they don't take it personally and they can let you know what they think you should do next or validate your feeling or validate whatever and then move on. Yes. And that's what a healthy really friendship looks like. Right. And then move on and you know I don't think many of them exist the way that they used to exist. Um and I hope that we can all kind of maybe get back to that or some semblance of that whatever that may look like um and everybody takes everything so personal. I am somebody who takes everything very very personal You do?

SPEAKER_01

Oh I'm growing well okay I mean I'm not gonna ask for an example but like if I'm I don't know if I come to you and I'm complaining about I don't know what? What's something you would take personally? I don't know like maybe I do need an example or give me like a without giving a specific example what do you take personally?

SPEAKER_00

Um I mean I guess work like if I'm doing somebody's work and I would take it personally not necessarily if you came and said something to me about like I'm not happy about this or I'm not that I wouldn't take personally but if you went and said it to somebody else oh okay and then I got it got back to me I would take that very personally because I would rather somebody come and tell me to my face. Okay I see where you're going.

SPEAKER_01

So yes you would rather if I let's say you did my lashes or something and I was like yeah they're perfect and you're like no I really I pr I would really like the feedback like how did I do you did great everything's great thanks and then I go over and I'm like I really just I don't think I'm gonna go back because yeah this happened and this happened and I'm really unhappy with how this this stuck and then that person's like hey just saying I reach like she really wasn't happy and you're like what the heck I said like that's understandable.

SPEAKER_00

Yes I think that as much as we all we have a love hate relationship with constructive criticism it's necessary for growth and even if you might not be in that space to kind of take that constructive criticism at that moment um maybe take it put it in a box for a second and then say we'll have you come back in the next day. So if your mindset is just not there and it's something that can wait then you know as long as that person is is able to allow that to happen. Um but especially in the industry the aesthetics industry that we're in um it can be hard to hear that somebody's unhappy with something and but I always tell people like if somebody went somewhere else I'm like okay well maybe and this does happen a lot maybe what you want and how you explained it we're not aligned. Is not aligning with that person.

SPEAKER_01

And you know sometimes people bring us pictures and it's like I want this oh we talked about those because it's Megan Fox's face but they look like you know insert person.

SPEAKER_00

Again some things in this field just they just don't and and that's okay and sometimes you know but again I even even personally like you know every situation you don't always deal with everything the way that somebody else thinks that you should or you know and a lot of times that comes down to everybody internalizing things and then how you deal with it or you know I think we underestimate the power of communication because it really does start at the beginning at the if to keep with the aesthetics just at the consult.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah can you the client communicate effectively to the provider this is what I want and can the provider communicate back I can uh do this to an extent you need to understand so right there you're already at the the cusp of like it could go wrong at any time then after the service communication can client say to provider hey we're this is not what I asked for and then can client say it in a way that is constructively helpful and can provider hear it but also within an an appropriate timeline.

SPEAKER_00

So if somebody's telling you like after this this is when it should set in this for instance we'll go with neurotoxins okay so a neurotoxin is Botox all right if for you know Botox or it's like Kleenex versus uh facial tissue yes correct um so pretty much every single one of them across the board you're gonna you know a provider's gonna say I will do a follow-up in two weeks or in two weeks it should settle if it hasn't settled in two weeks contact me if you are waiting longer than a two week time frame to contact somebody and then you want to complain about it a month later it is really hard for a provider to be like mmm okay because and the reason I say that is because some people metabolize things quicker than others sometimes certain areas may take better than another area and yes do I think that sometimes neuro neurotoxins there have been instances it doesn't happen often but there are instances where it might not work um and then you have to figure out why has somebody built up a tolerance to it um all of those kinds of things but again frame for a lot of things that are done in the aesthetics world are very very important so if somebody says to you like this should kick in in two weeks and you've seen them before and it normally does but it didn't this time waiting a month to complain about it is not an appropriate timeline. And you might find that you don't get the response that you wanted.

SPEAKER_01

It's like going to a restaurant and leaving a bad review two months later. Yeah where the person Or a year later it's true especially if it's like a a special they're having well okay that was five months ago we don't have that special anymore that's not even on the menu. I'll I have a great real life example I came to your establishment and got filler in where? Front cheeks and we filled in a little bit of the nasal labial fold right and it was and I was told two to three weeks and I want to say it was like a week and a half and I text you and I'm like I don't know I'm still really swollen I can't smile and you're like all normal let me see a picture sent a picture you replied back with this is looking on par give it give it the full time what do you think happened at the full time super happy and I'm like okay this is but I think a provider would rather hear it like around or even slightly before that window. If you're unsure about anything always reach out to the provider first. Yeah always come with and don't curiosity then complaint okay because it hasn't developed yet and the other thing too is don't run to another place right and lie about when you had it done.

SPEAKER_00

Not even lie about it but complain like oh my gosh I went there two weeks ago and this didn't work so I'm coming to you because guys you have to give everybody an a fair opportunity and also like maybe there's something that they can do. Maybe you don't have to pay an exorbitant amount of money maybe there's always there's always instances where things can hopefully be corrected that suits both yes provider and client and um I feel like that's an important yeah because providers aren't always perfect.

SPEAKER_01

They're not always gonna get it right. Absolutely human anatomy is very different. It's very different. It's unique on everybody and I'm when I said lie about I'm talking about the people who you know they get a little bit of neurotoxin, Botox, disport, what have you and it's not enough because they're watching their wallet which you know if you're price shopping you are not going to get the results that you want. Right. But don't lie if you went somewhere and it's been a week don't say I went somewhere two months ago and I'm going somewhere else like that can be dangerous as well. That's they're putting yourself in danger for being over overdone all the things.

SPEAKER_00

Which speaking of being done or overdone or or just great your lips look fantastic.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say that to you as well we both had some lip treatments recently um in the filler uh category and not not too overdone no just enough something about lips you just it really is a game changer and it's at any age and it really helps especially with the older people with the um is there a better way to describe the smokers lines because not everybody smokes and they still get those yeah that's right in 2026 it's straw lips the straw lines yeah um because that's we both have our our flat our what do you call it our water bottles for lack of a better word. Um but yeah I'm noticing that like it's it's pretty common in a in just in women I don't know why we get those lines over men. It's not fair.

SPEAKER_00

But color does help with that men don't drink out of straws the way women do. Bullshit well that does look a little they they prefer glasses. Yeah and I do think um they gotta stay manly.

SPEAKER_01

Men drinking out of a straw is a I'm not I'm not into it.

SPEAKER_00

I will say I think that that that helps them a little bit um that's true for that that's true.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah But yeah something about a even a little lip flip like it's just it's a little oomph.

SPEAKER_00

It's a little oomph now I will say like most people come in and that's all they want. They just want filler in their lips and that they're not looking at the full picture. And if you go into an establishment and somebody's like okay but you should also consider these things. Do not take it personally right understand that they want to make sure that they are accentuating all of the features in the appropriate places. They want you to look balanced. Correct and sometimes just having filler in your lips is going to throw off the balance too much.

SPEAKER_01

You're gonna look very um ducky yeah that's yeah I mean that's usually and it is a shame we've we've really like we're coming back around but there was a phase where lips were just oh my gosh just the bigger the better. Oh my gosh yeah a lot and we're we're really getting away from that now but I think women of a certain age need to understand you're not giving up on the whole like aging naturally aging gracefully like they go hand in hand. Yeah there's no shame in getting an injection on your face like I'm I'm trying to understand there are just some some women who I are close to me that I know that it's just they it's not for them. Oh I I can't that's not for me. It's like well I think you think it's going to look a certain way and you're gonna be unrecognizable and that is not that is not the case. We have loss of volume on our face if you're a side sleeper I guarantee you one side of your face is flatter than the other.

SPEAKER_00

And you're gonna look like some people are like huh why are there so many more wrinkles on that side? Why are there so many um if you're in your car a lot y'all and you don't wear sunscreen.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah we've all seen that what is that um oh I'm gonna have to put this in the show notes now but it was like that trucker guy yeah it was like one side of his arm or one arm was really sun damaged compared to the other it was like just years and years of sun exposure.

SPEAKER_00

Sun exposure and so that does the same thing. So if you're in your car you're traveling a lot you're not wearing sunscreen and reapplying it or you don't have sun protection on the windows which if you are in your car a lot I highly suggest there are so many tints out there that are SPF proof and a lot of people don't realize they actually have sun protection in them. I live in my car so that would be really yes so when I had mine done you can choose it's more expensive but guys Yeah but you're paying for it one way or the other yeah so um a lot of them actually have SPF to prevent and it also making a note of the reason that they do that too is because you have to think about how much it lightens the seats also so like if you're not and so if you think about it in that aspect and you think about oh okay well what's it doing to my face if it can do that to the interior of a car you know reverse that thought process and think about well what is it actually doing to my face even if you don't see it immediately it's the long term that most people don't consider um so again you know sleeping on one side versus the other um you know being in the car for long periods of time all of those things are gonna drastically affect your face and that is why nobody's face is symmetrical so people always always want symmetry they think nobody there isn't one person that has perfect symmetry and if you actually were to put that into your phone and ask an app to do it it it kind of looks very it looks very distorted distorted it's very unnatural looking to be completely and totally symmetrical.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like um years and years ago when Oprah had like her show or whatever I I feel like I feel like it was Oprah they brought on someone that had a perfect symmetrical face and I I'm sure she was beautiful but sh it you learned very quickly she wasn't like a 10 she wasn't like a knockout she just it almost looked a little off yes and that's I I think this is probably the point you were making that's what makes us beautiful are our I don't want to dare say imperfections but I'll say it just they are it is to make it really positive. But like that's okay everyone I don't know if you've looked I'll have to put this in the stupid show notes like make a note Bradley Cooper had an upper bluff okay it's bad no bueno it's bad and it's a shame because yes he had like the he had a lower brow he had some of that but that's what that's what made him attractive and now all of a sudden he looks a little more feminine he lost like that masculine edge that he kind of had yeah and it's a shame because you know in his eyes he's literally pun intended his eyes um that's what an upper bluff is everybody you're you're you're removing the excess skin excess skin that's on your eyelid that you know we all tend to have they do look better on women than men I will I will say that um there's a lot of really beautiful um work done that it just you don't look any you just look more awake more refreshed but on a guy especially Bradley Cooper um and even Jim Carrey I think well that was a whole other conspiracy but I'm I'm still figuring that one out but it looked like he had a lot of work done as well um but it's the imperfections that actually make them attractive so when you go and get an an enhancement like filler you're not chasing perfection. No you're and you're not gonna look different if you go to the right injector. Am I correct on that? Like I think you don't have to be scared of these things you're just adding volume where volume is lost. That's very normal.

SPEAKER_00

What you're doing is you're you're chasing enhancement so you know you want to and this is what I say all the time you want to age like fine wine okay so you're never going to unless you literally have facelifts and things like that you're gonna have things that are going to absolutely improve your look and might even make you look younger if you start early enough.

SPEAKER_01

True not too early not too like everyone's different.

SPEAKER_00

If you start early and there are some people that just are always going to look 10 years younger than what they are and that's just a lot of times that has a lot more to do with their DNA. Yeah and good genes good genes yes absolutely um with your good genes and and specifically um I would say different ethnicities have a tendency to look younger than what they are and that has more again to do with um their skin type and the oils they have in their skin and and just thickness of skin. So um you're going to find different ethnicities that you look at them and you're like wow like they just don't look their age and if we're talking about like for instance and please don't take offense to this whether you want to be called black or African American also Asian those ethnicities um have a tendency to look naturally about 10 years younger than what they are and that's amazing for them. I will say for Caucasians white people we have a tendency to look more road and put away wet um especially because of the sun.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I always get a little about Korean skincare because is it the skincare? No it's not or is it that they have incredible skin. Yeah and and again they they their pores are very tiny but they just have you're chasing some look if you have Korean in you all right maybe we could we can you be a good candidate to try this out to see if it's actually the skincare. I I kind of like I look the other way if I hear it's Korean skincare I'm like okay okay okay but you know and I and again no there's no I'm not trying to make anybody feel any sort of way or anything like that.

SPEAKER_00

It is it is very true. It's something that I see constantly um you know I have Native American in me right and um what you will also find in a lot of Native American people that are true they naturally have larger pores their skin their skin texture is naturally a little bit thicker um there are many that deal with more um acne issues it's just cultural things that you will see and you will find and unfortunately like I got that side from my dad's you know I got that from my dad's side of the family. You know uh so You also need to take all of these things into consideration um when you're looking into aesthetics and you're looking into, okay, well, I want to look 10 years younger, I want to do this, or I wanna do that. And and just be realistic with expectations and know that a med's body is only capable of certain things. Otherwise, plastic surgery is definitely the avenue that you need to take. Yeah. Um and and and guys, don't be offended. Like, yes, I do think that there are some places you can walk into and somebody can say something and you're just like, wow, you did not need to say it like that, or you did not need to approach me. Again, back to communication. Yeah, like it absolutely, those are the very true statements. So if you have had an experience like that, I am I am not trying to take that away from you or make you like at all.

SPEAKER_01

Um I hope, you know, that you don't have to ever, but well, if they go to Exquisite Med Spa, they will not have that experience. Um, and I can say, as a Caucasian with sensitized skin, um, here are the here's the boring low-hanging fruit, easy to do things. Okay. Especially if you're not dipping your toe yet into fillers, Botox, or uh neurotoxin or plastic surgery. Right. Um I changed my skin after seeing you for the three following things. And that was starting out with hydrofacials, which we'll come back to because that's a great thing to do now, uh, that spring. Um, microneedling and doing the series. People, it is not a one and done.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Plastic surgery, maybe one and done. Uh, any type of in-office treatment, always best in threes, sometimes more at least. Yep. Um, and uh chemical peels, which I was very apprehensive to do for years. Rachel was trying to convince me for years, and I just was not ready to receive it. Um, she didn't do it in a way that was um offensive. It was, hey, these are your goals, just so you know, this is actually the path, and this stepping stone will be here when you're ready. And it took me some time, but I did, and I can now I I I can actually see the difference, which is so exciting. Um, so she has me on a regimen. I did pretty consistently, I would say. We we really I had some goals. We really went after it via microneedling for sure. Um peel season, don't uh be conned into getting one right now because this is we are out of peel season. Okay, you're right. You're right. Go ahead. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

Peel season is can be all year. Let's be clear. Right, because there's different levels, there's different levels, but there's also different clients. So if you're a client that, you know, you're really good about your sun exposure and you're very cautious, honestly, peel season can be all year. That's okay. That's incorrect. That is true. You know, a lot of people look at it and they're like, oh, well, it's now it's peel season. You know, it is peel season for there's a season for peels for clients that love the sun. Yeah, yeah. Let me be clear. That's that's also lasers. Like there is a season for lasers and peels because those are the two things that you s most just sun is just in general a no-no.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. They're not no one's gonna turn you down to have a procedure done, but they're gonna have some follow-up questions for you before they touch your skin.

SPEAKER_00

Right. But you can tell the people that you know are going to follow through, they're gonna listen, they're gonna be, you know, no matter what time of year it is, they're gonna do what they're supposed to do. So, but for those who still want to do appeal during summer to kind of keep up, but they also are gonna be on the sun, there are different types.

SPEAKER_01

And do you pair those usually with the hydrofacial service?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we absolutely can pair uh uh a numerous different things with the hydrofacial.

SPEAKER_01

I love the hydrofacial, which we're gonna we're gonna break down, but um I I like to call it it's like a vacuum cleaner for your face, and then and then it injects, but it not actually. It rehydrates. Yeah. It yeah, you want to talk like that glass skin, blah blah blah, like it's it's achieved. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So I mean hydrofacials are great, they're great all year round, especially um winter time and springtime too. Um, for those people that deal with a lot of dryness. Um in between different series, it's great to do a hydrofacial. Um, there's something that, you know, if you wanted to do a hydrofacial monthly, you could absolutely do a hydrofacial monthly because there's there's so many different combinations and different um products that we can do with it, different add-ons and additives to it. Um, a lot of times we'll dermaplane with it. Um derma cleaning is amazing for your skin. It allows us to get rid of 28 days of dead skin cell buildup. You're using um a surgical blade, um, and we're going over it. Also, gets rid of the vilious hair that's all over. Which helps with makeup applications. It makes your skincare products better, it makes your makeup better, it makes everything just look and feel better. Um, you know, and derma planing is something that, you know, most people do about once a month, every four to six weeks, um, on average, is is a normal time frame for it. Some people like to do it a little bit sooner than that. You can pair derma planing with anything, or you can just leave it uh by itself. I mean, it's totally one of those things. Um with the case.

SPEAKER_01

I mean it's like while I'm here. While I'm here as well.

SPEAKER_00

It's true. It's true. Um hydrofacial, um, you know, it's going to it can do lymphatic drainage for the face, which is great, especially during um the allergy season, because a lot of us will get really um, you know, the lymphatic system is just overloaded. Um, you know, people will get more puffy, people, you know, under eyes, like their whole face just because their their body is just like spring everybody. You know, so see, spring's not all that great. Um so it, you know, you can we can add in um lymphatic drainage with it um to kind of just help get those which will leave you snatched, by the way.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. Like if you've seen those um before and afters, they're incredible. I will say I don't want to say don't be confused, but I know you hear the word facial. It was not like to me, it's like it's a f it's uh I don't it's like clinical. I don't know how to describe it. You're it's not relaxing. I mean I when you when you compare it to like a traditional facial, right? You're not you still do like a little bit of massage, but it is not like we we are this is with intention. This is for like the go-getter person with goals. Okay, like I feel like a hydrofacial it works. Yeah. Like I was pretty pretty convinced after having it done. And for a minute there, I think I was getting them like every other month. When I was really yeah, when I Yeah, yeah. That was a good plan. I had this is when we were really like getting after it. I was doing it was maybe a little excessive, but it was great. And I I take nothing back. It was microneedling one month, hydrofacial, and then I would go back and forth like that.

SPEAKER_00

Which you can do that with microneedling as long as you're not going super deep each time. Like there's it's also about what you're you're doing, how what you're trying to achieve. And again, like if it's moderation and you're not overdoing it, because guys, you can overdo it. Yeah, and your skin will respond. Your skin will respond and actually.

SPEAKER_01

You might stop responding. Yeah, and that's upsetting for those people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, you know, again, uh a hydrofacial is a great facial. It is not going to be your fluffy go-to-sleep, uh, you know, rubbing hot towels. It's not that's not what it's meant to do. It is uh an intentional, purposeful.

SPEAKER_01

Um and we have both.

SPEAKER_00

We have all of them. Um, you know, again, if you're looking for something that's going to you can get this with both facials. Um, you know, whether it's customizable to a specific skin condition. Um, it's just hydrofacial takes it to that next level compared to a traditional. Um, you can always do add-ons with anything. Um it does do the one thing I like about the hydrofacial machine is that you are getting that microderm abrasion um with it. Um so again, yes, that's really helping to exfoliate that. Now you can do the derma cleaning and a hydrofacial, it is not going to um it's not gonna hurt anything. It's not gonna make one better than the other. Um, it's just gonna add that extra little umph to your skin.

SPEAKER_01

So is the hydrofacial similar to Botox? It's the brand.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So when you look at a hydrofacial, like it is what everybody knows, okay? So there's always going to be different devices that quote unquote do the same thing or you know, are similar.

SPEAKER_01

Um So if I book a hydrofacial at an establishment and they come wheeling in with Hydro Boost or whatever, should I should I be like, should I be worried, or should I be like, oh, nope, that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_00

That's like a disport and it's n so the difference is Hydrofacial specifically makes products for each each session, each um so like they have a stage of, you know, you're gonna exfoliate and then you're going to put on a peel of a specific peel that you're doing, whether that's a really light one or a higher end one, then you're gonna have an extraction. So they're formula they have specific formulations that are made for each process during the hydrophasial. Most of the other devices out there, you can choose the solutions that you wish to use. Um, I'm not saying they're good, bad, or indifferent. Um not all of those um brands out there again make solutions specifically for it. So I don't know what's necessarily in those solutions, so I can't tell you, you know, whether or not you should be like, okay, this is a, you know, this is just an off or whatever, because I don't know what's in those.

SPEAKER_01

So is that a question that the client should ask prior? Like if they see, if they're looking at like the menu of a med spa and they see hydrofacial, is it offensive for a person to call and just say, hi, I would like to book a hydrofacial. I see this. Are you using the name brand? Like, what's the how can you like rule that out?

SPEAKER_00

Technically, technically, legally, they're not unless it's truly a hydrofacial machine, you're not supposed to advertise it as such. But you know there are people. So there are people that will and that do. Um here's the thing, like if you're gonna advertise it as that, you should be that. So that's fair. If they come in and it's something different and you question it, you have a right to question it. And if you choose, like, I don't want to have this service done because it's not what I wanted. What's the term okay?

SPEAKER_01

So if I'm looking at a shopping list and I see Kleenex on one shopping list and I look on the other shopping list and it's facial tissue. What's the what's the non brand name like service? Like what is it then? If it's not hydrofacial, what is what is the They all have different names.

SPEAKER_00

So different companies have different names. They're not all different.

SPEAKER_01

So there's not like one broad, there's not like one neurotoxin category.

SPEAKER_00

It's just it's just like different different lasers. Like there's a ton of different types of you know, IPL laser devices. There's a ton of different laser hair removal devices. It's the same thing. It's just okay, but what exactly is um the energy, you know, on that laser? What exactly what exactly is it doing? How strong is it? How what is so it's okay as a client to ask these questions.

SPEAKER_01

All right, well then that that puts that puts the power back on you guys, okay? You've got to be your own advocate for things. Yeah. Not saying you're gonna get a bad job if someone comes in and it's the hydro boost or whatever the heck it is, but just be like, oh, okay, this is not a hydrofacial.

SPEAKER_00

This is Well, and the other thing too is the hydrofacial is very um uh specialized in its treatments. So a lot of the other devices are not as intentional. They do not have as many other they don't have necessarily have boosters with them, and they don't have stuff like that. So that's another easy way to tell is okay, well, is there a booster with it? Is it a peel with it? Is there do they have LED lights with it? Does it have, you know, lymphatic drainage with it? Because not all of them have those things.

SPEAKER_01

Um for our Instagram, we're gonna show me getting a hydrofacial. Yeah. We should do that. Absolutely so people can see the the glory and the I want you guys to get excited about these things, okay? Because it's it's like entry level if you're if you're at that point. It's it's a real fun thing to do that's effective, but it's not gonna like blow your skin off. Right. Um I saw your watch is telling you you need to stand.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. I know we should stand. You know, your butt starts to get numb.

SPEAKER_01

It's true. My uh my oven went up um again.

SPEAKER_00

Again.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so we have a oh shout out to my mother-in-law again. She um takes residence here a couple times a year, and we're sh we have a little like cottage for her, and she has like a huge like toaster oven, but it's like I guess a convection oven. I don't know. Anyway, we had to steal yours, um, granny, just so you know. Oh uh, it's been very helpful. It's saved the day on a few meals this week, but um yeah, it's really annoying. Um so now I have a on spare oven in my kitchen on the countertop. So I'm feeling a little a little displaced. Um but yeah, it's just just the the wonderful things of being a homeowner. Anyway, so that's I gotta go sort that out. But yeah. Oh, it sounds like a fun day. I think so. Yeah. I think so. So I hope we uh provide we provide a lot of information on this uh podcast. This went all over the place. We we have like notes about what we're gonna talk about, but then we don't know where it's gonna go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, sometimes we try to follow it and then other times it just we go rogue. We go rogue, our profession.

SPEAKER_01

We're like professional level. Okay. I know, right? Um thanks for listening. Uh here's all the boring business stuff, but please come hang out with us at the Beauty Files Pod. Yes. On Instagram. I am at an afternoon with Amy on Instagram. I am at Exquisite MedSpa on Instagram. And then in the show notes, if you want to book a service uh at Exquisite Med Spa, we've uh their website is on there. Um anything else you want to push or promote? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

We have some events that are coming up, so if you guys just wanna stay tuned, um if you're interested in uh coming to that.

SPEAKER_01

Make sure you follow them because that's where you're gonna get that information. Yeah. Um I still have an event coming up March 29th. It is an open house. It's at someone's house, so you need to DM me for their address. Just don't want that just out there. Um, I am doing um two events in the fall, and I'm doing an event um in May at um Blossom Med Spa, right? Yep. Uh it's pretty cool of you, by the way, to uh help them celebrate 10 years by sharing my services to go over there. So that's oh yeah. It's pretty nice. Not everybody that look, that's what supporting women looks like, okay? That's that's Rachel having a friend in the same industry doing very similar things, helping her boost her own event and helping me out and giving me an event. Like it's just that's what that looks like, just in case anyone was curious about what it looks like to support women. But anyway, this has been the Beauty Files Podcast. Thanks for hanging out, and um don't be don't be quiet.

SPEAKER_00

Go ahead. Now you can say it. Oh, sorry. I I I just jumped in too too soon. Case closed, y'all. Bye.