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SPEAKER_03 0:21

Welcome to the beauty files. Welcome all. Files are open for beauty. I don't know. I got nothing. Yeah, I don't know. We've had a day, everybody. It's been it's been a day. Rachel's had to just what'd you have to do today? Do you even want to share?

SPEAKER_01 0:41

She had a day or I I just had a day. I think that not to put you on the spot. You know, some people are just cut out for things and others are not. And uh And today you found out someone was not. I I did, and I found out and it I found out last night and then and then they just pissed me off even more today. So um because they just kept you know, the nail was already in the coffin and then they just hit it one more time. That sucker's in there. It's it's in there.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

So But Rachel had a had a day of of growth and self-discovery. And I'm really proud of you. Thank you. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

I think it was uh Why are our mics so I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:29

The this thing on the mic is on your lip right here, and you literally look like Hitler. Like it's look at me. Is it doing it for me?

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Yeah, it is. Um You know, the the funny thing is is that I'm pretty sure somebody probably called me Hitler today um or last night. What? Or I disagree.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

I was able to see. Hang on, I'm gonna try and take a selfie of what I'm talking about, but it's not gonna go well. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

You just have to take a picture of me and take a picture of me. Just be like, eh.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

Well, it's telling me to clean the front of my camera. That is that's unique.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

I I feel like I have to post that. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

Because people aren't gonna know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Like my face looks awful on that, by the way. So I really hope she doesn't, but it's okay. It's fine.

SPEAKER_03 2:25

You can see everyone's forehead. We're only looking at the Hitler mustache.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

I'm just focusing on that.

SPEAKER_03 2:31

It's funny that trend never came back. I the Hitler said. How many times do you think we've said Hitler in the first uh three minutes of this podcast? I don't I don't know, but you must be some kind of record.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

I apparently make a son. I don't think we get flagged for singing. I don't think we're big enough to get flagged.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Yeah. I know what were you gonna say? Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 2:51

Go on.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Um, yeah, it's been a day.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

And it continues to be I actually brought look I brought my sunglasses down because is your head I had a headache earlier because I actually just finished editing uh this will be, let's see, last week's podcast. Yeah. And um I sit on the other side of this table here. Oh, in that lake. It was rough. And it was a long one. It was like a 70-minute I know.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Probably one of our longest ones. It was.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

So I I took I took to Advil. I feel I feel okay. Did you eat? I did. Did you eat? Unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Do you want to know what I had today so far? Oh god. Go ahead. I had not to do it. Two coffees. Oh my god. Okay, so I had two coffees. And I made a cinnamon raisin English muffin this morning. I had just finished eating half of my English muffin, and she said, Mommy, can I have the other half? Okay, fine. And then I ate a small thing of cheese and crackers today, and I've had a handful of mints.

SPEAKER_04 4:00

Mmm.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

I'm doing good.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

Just mints. You didn't have any of the butter what are those things called? The Worthers original? Yeah. You know, I almost snagged one when I was there. Yeah. And I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

And I actually have a lot of regret for not. A lot of people seem to like that, and then I had somebody yell at me because I put the Werthers in with the mints. Alright, guys, let's do a poll here. Is it acceptable to put the Worthers in with the Mints, or is it unacceptable because then the Worthers taste like the mints and the mints taste like the Worthers? You don't have them loose in there. They are wrapped individually. Listen, I I got scolded. By whom? By a client. She was very upset about me putting them together.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

Wow. So I want to know this time you've had things together. You've had you've had um Hershey Kisses in there before. With Reese's.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

Yeah. I know. But guys, I really I want to know. I want to know. I find this crazy. Is it unacceptable to do that? Like, should I a some way have been scolded, or is it a little overboard?

SPEAKER_03 5:10

Well well. Alright. I was not irked by that. No. And even if I were, I don't think it's worth saying to you. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

I mean, I've just kind of laughed about it for a while.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

It's your bowl with your mints and your worthers.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

I almost wanted to say, well, then don't eat it.

SPEAKER_03 5:37

But I just laughed about it and I said, hmm. Now if they were unwrapped, mixed together, rolling around, I'd have an issue. Jelly beans. Look, and jelly beans, they belong together. We're not splitting those by color. She's a racist, um, candy Nazi. Nazi. Let's just keep going with the Hitler stuff. This is great. This is gonna be our World War II episode. I know, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Oh gosh. We're we're tired, guys. It's a long time.

SPEAKER_03 6:10

I know. I uh yeah. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. Look, this is how serious we are. We are we've had days and we're here and we make it work and we're making it work. And it's late. It's it's it's later. It's like almost eight o'clock at night. Uh oh. It's nighttime, guys. I mean, it's okay because I don't sleep, so it's fine. Are we back to not sleeping?

unknown 6:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

I was I was disturbed last night, so I just was like I kept reading it over and over in my head. And I was just even I I think every time I read it I became more irritated.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

I understand that. I was irritated on your behalf, and it wasn't even my situation. So I it's it's allowed. And we've all done it. It's not like there aren't people listening right now. They're like, I've never ruminated about anything. Yeah. That's what people do. I have I'm the classic, like, you know, four weeks later, I'm just now coming back with like a oh, I should have said that. That's me.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Like Yeah, I I'm right now, I'm just like, I have nothing else else to say.

SPEAKER_03 7:15

Well, the good news, you said what needed to be said. Oh I was pissed. But you said it in a in a nice way. I know every audience is like, what are they talking about? We can't we can't tell you the juice. Sorry. We love you, but no.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

I know you want the tea, but we can give you we can give you little sprinkles, but little sprinks mix.

SPEAKER_03 7:36

Um so I was I was gonna do a segue. You said something about not sleeping. This is the pregnancy episode. Yeah, I know, guys. And um we have we have uh lots of layers to it because we've so many layers to that. Because you want to go like the not it can get heavy fast. So do we want to keep it lighthearted?

SPEAKER_01 7:59

I I mean I think we can we could pregnancy is what I call a roller coaster, so I think we can we can roller coaster it.

SPEAKER_03 8:06

Alright, let's coaster it.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Up and down, you know?

SPEAKER_03 8:09

So I guess we what episode even prompted this topic? Was it two episodes ago?

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Yeah, I think so. No, yeah. Not the last was it the last one?

SPEAKER_03 8:20

No, because I just edited that the one before. Yeah. I don't know what we said though. It was something, it was something it doesn't matter. We said it, and that's what you guys remember. In fact, yeah, because it was along the lines of I was thinking about things that happened to me when I was pregnant, and I was like, but I'm not going to tell you. I will tell you today. There's lots of it. Did you know, and this is a fun fact for the audience, I cannot edit out all the dog barking and the things that you guys hear in the background. It is here to stay. And right now there is like a stampede of animals and children upstairs. Probably my one of my children's fault, but you know. It's well, mine's up there too.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

So yeah, but mine's probably trying to play catch or something. Well, you know, it's what they do.

SPEAKER_03 9:09

Children. We love them. We love them. We're gonna talk about birthing them. Yes, yes. So I guess that's where we can start. I I find it funny, it's not even funny, it's just everyone has a birth story. They do. And everybody wants to tell it, but not everybody wants to hear it. However, if you I think the rule is if you have a birth story of your own, you have to make space for people that want to tell you their story.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Right.

SPEAKER_03 9:37

Because that's fair. You are equally like want to tell your story if you had the opportunity. Because everybody loves their birth story.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

It's like they either love it or are traumatized. Well, or I guess that's true. Yeah. Wanna forget it for it.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

Depend depends on how much time has passed. I used to tell my daughter her birth story when she was like a week old just to get her to like get used to my voice and like fall back to sleep. I literally can close my eyes and see both of them.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

There's some real standout moments. I mean, I literally just remember all of it. That's wonderful. All of it. I think it was, and I think part of the reason I remember so much of it was because it was both of them were way easier than the entire pregnancy. Oh. And very quick. It was literally in both of them within a five-hour time frame of like start to finish. I think I pushed twice and she was there.

SPEAKER_03 10:42

But I do, I had to get two epidurals. See, I didn't get like it didn't work. Oh. Well, that's why I had to get two. I took I waited, uh, geez. I waited, I wanted to be one of those moms that was like, I'm going all the way without anything.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

Right.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

And then I made it to seven centimeters, and I was like, is this gonna get better? And they're like, nope, it's only gonna get worse. I thought, okay. They were like, your window will be closing. There will be a time where it is too late. And I was feared into getting it. But I had that like I I forgot what they call it, like a pinhole or something where like a section doesn't anyway. Now that I look back, that's insane that I had to get two epidurals. Like I really I couldn't handle like a little teeny piece on my stomach that I felt like I don't know, apparently I couldn't.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

But so I got mine too late. So as I'm sitting up, they didn't check me. And they're putting it, and I'm like, I have to push. I have the baby is coming, I have to push. And they're like, Whatever you do, don't move. And I said, But I have to push. So, you know, anesthesiologist puts it in my back, and I'm like, I have to push. He goes, Well, I can't give you anything until we check you. Oh, wow. So I lay back, and there's the head. So guess what? I got nothing, and he was out in 10 minutes. Wow. Because I had to wait for them to prep everything.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Oh, that was so close of you to to wait for them to be to be ready.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

They just said whatever you do, just don't punch.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

So we were both young.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

Were you 24? I was I had just turned 26.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Oh, that's right. Okay. I was pregnant mainly when I was 25 and then just turned 26.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

So we're about the same. I was 24. Right? Yeah, I was 24. So yeah, we were children practically. And it is funny, like anything, I don't do too much research because I find either A, I won't do the thing, or I'll like get worked up about it, and that's for anything, really. So why not pregnancy too? Like I remember when my my we my husband and I we got married. I was 23, he was 26, and I remember it was like, okay, we can like start like thinking about whatever. And I remember like someone saying, Yeah, it takes like up to a year, you know, like give give yourself a year. I'm like, oh, okay, I can be ready by then. And I'm sorry this is triggering to some, but I got pregnant on the very first try. And let me tell you what, I had every emotion in in an hour. And I know it was an hour because if you guys remember this, the walking dead was on. Okay. This is when it was like on TV. I I took the pregnancy test, saw the results, had shock, of course, because I'm like, I a year. I I was promised a year, I was told. No one told me. Anyway, went downstairs, showed my husband, and we were like just so priorities were not there. We both had like a okay, uh, the show's starting. Sit down. Both of us sat down. Every commercial break, I had a different emotion. Yep. The second the first commercial break, I bawled my eyes out. I was so upset. The second commercial, I will never forget this. I'm like, wow, that's like nuts to think about. Um, but yeah, the things and and please, where let's share your where were you, when were you, how were you?

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Oh god. I was not trying. I had not been with his dad, my son's father, for very long. Um uh Christmas party that we were going to. I was on birth control, like things were supposed to be fine. I wasn't even supposed to be, even though I was on birth control, I wasn't even supposed to be able to get pregnant. So I was told that I was gonna have um. So you were also told like something. Um even when I was younger, I was told I have endometriosis, so I was told that it would be very challenging. Um I had had a kidney infection and was on antibiotics, and I had been off of them and so wasn't thinking anything. Again, still taking the pill. I knew that that, you know, the contraindication, like, hey, if you take an antibiotic, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Went to a Christmas party, got annihilated, was vomiting in a bathtub, still ended up. I don't know how that happened. Anyways. You find room for fun when you're young. I thought I had another either a cyst that ruptured or another kidney infection that was brewing. I had a quote unquote period. Oh, interesting. Exactly when it was time. Um, and I went in and I called my mom because she's an ultrasound tech. She works at a fertility clinic. Yes. Um, but she's able to do all an ultrasound on me. And I I was refusing to go back to the hospital because I had just been in the hospital not that long ago. And I was like, something is wrong. I think I had another cyst that rapture. Like, something is not okay. I do not feel good, and I'm having a lot of pain. She went in and transvaginal ultrasound guys. Try having your mom shove something up in there for you, which was fun. And she was the one who said, You're pregnant. Oh wow. And I said, What? What a role reversal. This and I just lay there in shock and cried. Yeah. Because I'm like, no, I'm not.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

I was like, I just had a period. No, I'm not. I mean, I would have thought all of that. I wouldn't have. So and what was that like? Like having your mom tell you that. Like, was your mom like stoic? Was she happy? Was she like something?

SPEAKER_00 17:13

It'll be okay. Oh she she actually was was pretty calm about it. And I was like, What's gonna be okay? Nothing's gonna be okay. I just kind of like, no, no, it's this right. Oh man. She goes, with a heartbeat, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

So we kind of went back and forth a little bit because and I I was like, but is there a heartbeat? And she goes, eh, it's barely there, it's barely there. She's like, so you have to come back in a week, and I was like, So am I pregnant or not? And she's like, Well, you are, but you're very early, so you need to come back. So sometimes at five weeks, like five weeks and a couple of days, you can see a heartbeat, and there's lots of times where you can't, or the one that they see is very faint. So a lot of times if you're that early, they'll make you come back a week later. So I had to go back a week later and have my mom do another transfasional ultrasound and um, you know, go through it again, and everything was fine this time. Um, but I was so sick. I was just sick. I was just puking my guts out, and that's what I did all the entire pregnancy was just puked my guts out. So that's a bummer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

I didn't uh I actually really enjoyed being pregnant. You were one of those bitches I hated. I well, I was all I was a whale before I got pregnant, and then I got pregnant, and then I was like two well, I told you and oh, that's why we talked about that man approached me and asked me if I was having twins. That's pretty much how I felt uh the whole time. And I remember reaching a point where I was really excited that I no longer looked just fat. I you could tell that I was pregnant. And it's really harsh. I'm sorry. Um, to those two are in a similar boat. But I remember when I finally like what's the term pop? Is that was that the popped popped, right? Yeah. Where it was like, oh, I am. I just her like being excited about that, that it was no longer just overweight.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

I don't know. For me, I was kind of like, oh, well, the longer I can hide it, the better. The longer nobody I didn't get big. I that's right.

SPEAKER_03 19:33

We talked about this because people were asking you at that wedding. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

You were one of the bitches that I hated. Right, exactly. I mean, but that's I mean, partially because I literally couldn't keep anything in. Um but you know, it's just how my bodybuilt, like I just didn't get big. So I would tell people I was pregnant and they would look at me and be like, yeah, sure. Oh, okay. So I don't know which is worse for somebody to be like, hmm, or be like, damn, you're a house.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

Yeah, I and this is why we can't compare, or this is why we shouldn't be jealous of other people. No because you don't they're likely not happy with their lot either. Yeah. And it's it's just the way of it's just the way it is. I would say both are bad.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Both are bad. I would say don't unless you know somebody is like pregnant or like you can absolutely know them very well. Don't just don't just be kind. Don't say anything. Yeah, just don't so and then you'll have the woman who's like, nobody said that I was pregnant.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

Nobody asked me.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

You're gonna have that too. I I I had so many with my son, a lot of traumatic events happen. Did you have any like that you can think of during pregnancy with your well when you say traumatic, what do you mean by that? Like being hospitalized, having like major events where you thought like you were gonna lose the baby or like no, uh well, that's not true.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

I had one one time, and it was uh probably a week before I was due. I would just noticed I was at work, and I just remember being like, oh, it's weird. I haven't really felt anything at all. And usually she was very active. So I do remember going to the doctor. They like it looked like I was being like an amusement park ride, like with this huge like weight strap around you. I was like, what are we doing? Anyway, and then it did that little that long receipt of all the things, and then everything was fine. But I do even then I remember being like, What's going on? Like I was I swear I was not all there.

SPEAKER_01 21:45

I I I think it was one of those, like, I love I love kids, I love babies, so I was always very into it. My mom, you know, worked as an tech at a fertility clinic, and yeah, so like babies was always my thing, and I I just loved it and like i engulfed myself in it. Yeah. Um, and it always terrified me when I was little when they said like there's a good chance you won't be able to have any. Yeah, of course. I mean that right there is traumatic. When I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm gonna have like five. Right, yeah. You know, um, so then getting pregnant and that with my son was not my first pregnancy. Um, you can be judgy, it's okay. I was very young, I had gotten pregnant, and a lot of things occurred, and I as much as I had thought about adoption, um, it just wasn't gonna suit for that situation. Um, and so I did not keep that baby. And that was a very hard thing for me to go through. Um, it was not an easy thing because I desperately did want it, but there were again a lot of circumstances around it that it just wasn't possible. I mean, it could have been, but I probably would have I don't know where I would be today if that would have happened. Um so that happened, and then I was like, what if that was my only chance? You know? So that makes sense. That's a and that creates a whole yeah other stressor. Yeah, so that was very traumatic. And then I got pregnant with my son, and then did you do the blood work early on? Of course. To know if there was any issues?

SPEAKER_03 23:25

Oh yes, of course. Because, you know, I didn't have a I didn't have a spine back then to like know that I could not like that I didn't have to do certain things. Like the glucose test. I didn't know that there was other options.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

So they didn't offer us the DNA test then, like they do now. Like the genetic like you know how they you can get that now early on when you do like the DN when you do genetic early on. I do Yeah, right around like um between about 10, 12 weeks you will do the blood work and they'll tell you about the genetic testing. I don't remember if there's abnormalities, like if they think that there's something chromosomal off. So I apparently um with my son was a very high for Downs. Oh wow, very high. And I had that test result come back, and I was like, okay. And I was like, well, this is the only one I'm gonna have. It doesn't matter. I'm gonna have it. It's fine. I don't I don't care. And then at 15 weeks I started bleeding. Oh really bad. Really, really, really, really bad. And like, I mean, when I tell you the mattress was soaked, it was just like putting like it was it was bad. And I had to have a surclage done. So they had to stitch me. So they had to go and stitch it so my my cervix was starting to open premature. Um, so they had to like it was just like close you back up. Close me back up, you know? You know, I'm vomiting, I got all these things, and I everyone was like, Well, how my mom's like, How are you? Did you call the doctor yet? And I was like, I'm and this was before I went in, and I was like, I'm 15 weeks. I'm like, if there's something wrong with the baby and I'm not meant to keep it, this is just what my body is doing. And like a lot of people will probably hear me say that to them and think I was crazy, and I literally just said it like factual because those are the facts. Like, this is why these things happen, and as much as it's horrible and it sucks, and it's you know, it's not fair at that time, like I knew I was like, Well, there's nothing they're gonna do for me.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

And so at that time, everything still looked good. There was it was so they were able to do the circlage and it was okay to keep them in, and then they have to remove them later in the pregnancy, um, so that you can have the baby. That's so interesting. But then at 27 weeks I was in a car accident. Oh my okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

When's your book coming out? Just out of curiosity.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

You know, a bad one? It was so I went into labor. I started contracting. Wow. Um my car, they should have totaled it, but they didn't. So my stomach I hit really hard. I had a severe concussion and it messed up my neck so much that I had constant pain. I had to go to like the neurologist, and then I was doing therapy for it, and it was never getting better. Um, and they I went and had to spend the night in the hospital for it was two days to stop all the contractions and get everything. And I looked at my mom and I was like, you know, I'm like, this baby he's never coming out of me. And she just laughed and I was like, there's just been a lot of things that have happened, and I just don't I think he's fine in there. And she just kind of laughed, and you know, again, I was uh sick and tiny, but when I was in the car accident, the first thing I said after I got out, and you guys again, pregnancy does a lot of things to you. I had just gotten this car and I had literally just gotten the windows tinted like a week ago, and I was on my way to cut hair, and I had everything in the trunk, and this woman hit me from behind and like hit the car so hard that the rear uh passenger's tire was up in the passenger seat. Like, she hit me. Oh my god, I was completely stopped, and she hit me going like almost 50 from behind, and like I I don't know how either of us and I had to stop because there was oncoming traffic, and thankfully there the third car was a cop that was off to me. This is so stressful. I don't like anything you're saying. But the guy got out and they saw everything, and they're like, Are you okay? And I'm like, Yeah, and I'm like, but I just cut the window and I was crying.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

I said, and I'm pregnant, and he looks at me and he goes, You're pregnant?

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

And it was one of those moments where I was like, Yeah, bitch, I'm pregnant. And I was 27 weeks again, like you couldn't even tell. And so I had to go, and it was like, I was like, the baby's not moving. I was like, I don't feel good. And it like shortly after that, like a rush came over me, and like I just went gray and like had to go sit down, and the ambulance came and they took me, and I'm 27 weeks, they take you straight to trauma. Oh wow. So then you have to get naked. Okay. And I had a really nice bra and I had just got it, it was like 70 bucks. Again, guys, I'm young. I'm like, dude, don't cut my clothes. I'm like, I looked at them, I had these nice leggings on, I'm like, I don't have maternity clothes, so can we not cut this stuff? They're like, if you can take it off, then we won't cut it off. I said, I'll take it off. So I am literally butt naked in front of like 25 doctors and nurses. The first thing they do, because I'm like, the baby's not moving, is they come in there to find the baby. Wow. It took 15 minutes and four doctors to find a heartbeat. You want to talk about like completely a gape here. You want to talk about complete and utter, like, I'm like, this is not happening. This I was like, find his heart. Like, I literally was like, he is in there. He is fine.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

I said, you have to find him. He was like tucked into my spine pretty much, and like it took them. I mean, I had to move, I had to get on all fours, like everybody in the room was just quiet. I mean, I nobody is talking, nobody is saying a word. I started to dilate, and I was dilating, and they're like, Okay, we have to, but I have this recognition. So, like Oh, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Um This is like like one of those psychological thrillers where they're like, ma'am, you were never pregnant. You're like, Yes, I was. It's like Jodie Foster on the the plane, and I forget that movie.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

And they find the heartbeat, they check me out, they do everything, they check my spine, they have to like check every orifice to make sure you're not bleeding, like I had to get an MRI, like everything. Were you still on your parents' health insurance at this point? No, no, ma'am. I was not, I was not. Um, and I I was in so much shock and I was like, well, what is gonna happen? And they're like, we have to monitor you, we have to get your you to stop, you know, contracting and um get you back on track. And I had had IV fluids not that long ago because of the hyperemes from vomiting. So I um had to hang out there and I called my parents and let them know. And I'm asking about the car. Of course. And like, what's happening? Like, I don't even I said, and then I was like, is that woman okay? You know, she was an older woman, not paying attention. Map remember you guys remember um map quest and like you print out those maps. I think she was looking at one of those down, she wasn't paying attention. Clearly, 50 miles an hour, and you've stopped. Yeah. Was she okay? She was fine. I think she had like she had an indent, really bad indent from the seatbelt. From the seatbelt, and I had a mark like on my stomach, and it was my neck. So that car, they had my seat was manual seat. Yeah, she hit me so hard that three men could not move that manual seat. They had to replace the front seat because it was so jammed. That's how hard I got hit. So, I mean, I was very lucky that I didn't get pushed on oncoming traffic, that like he was okay, and I got out and everything was fine. And I I, you know, he was good. I fell backwards off a dock in 34 weeks.

SPEAKER_03 31:48

I I don't even I I don't even know what to say to you at this point. Keep going. What else what else happened to you during this one this this pregnancy?

SPEAKER_01 31:56

And then I went in, they took the circle at 36, they didn't think I was gonna make it to 37 because I was two to three centimeters dilated. And she's like, You're probably you don't need to schedule the next appointment. I said, Listen, I was like, this baby hasn't come out yet. Yeah, I said he's fine. I said, he ain't coming out, I'm scheduling the next one. I said he'll be in here. At 37 weeks, I went in. I was by myself, and I was supposed to it was in the afternoon and I was going in to work and I had to watch kids. It was in Lancaster and I had to drive, you know, it was like about an hour. I said, Can you just make sure that everything's okay? And he wasn't gonna check me. And I was like, just humor me. I said, the doctor didn't think I would make it this far, the last one. I was like, but I have to watch kids. I want to make sure that I'm not gonna get there. Right, and then and then have to call and be like, dude, I I I can't watch that. You know what I mean? So he comes in and he's like, Oh, you're four to five centimeters dilated, you got the bloody show going on, you need to go to the hospital. I said, No, no, no, my bags aren't packed. Like, he's he's not coming, like it's fine. Well, he was. And I was admitted at a 5 p.m. at the hospital, and I was five at seven, I was seven centimeters. They broke my water. Forty minutes later, I said, I want a fucking epidural now. And they looked at me and they said, Well, the anesthesiologist is in there's only one on call, and he's in the OR right now.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

It's gonna be a bit Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

He comes in ten minutes before I deliver.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Well, and then which is why Oh, 15 minutes before I deliver.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

And they asked who I wanted to be in the room, and I was like, I just want my mom. I said, Everybody else get out. Yes. But I couldn't talk either because I was in so much pain, and I'm one of those people that I don't speak.

unknown 33:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

I get quiet. I get very quiet. And everybody else that was in the room was very offended that I did not want them in there, and I was like, I just want my mom.

SPEAKER_03 33:53

I feel like people need to understand that that's the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

They put it in, like I said, I was like, I have to push. He is coming. I lay down, I pushed him out, and that was it. And a baby is born. And a baby is born. So, you know, I mean it was It was a lot. It was uh not a fun pregnancy, and I always said, you know, at 20 you you had one, so I at 27 weeks pregnant, literally that week that I turned 27 weeks was the same as when I was in the car accident. They shut us down for COVID.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

Oh, something about the number 27.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Right, and I said, if I got pregnant again at 27 weeks, the world would end. I said, I can't it can't happen.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

Yeah, yeah. Please, please don't go to any Christmas parties. Please.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Oh no. The first one was a Christmas party, the second one was a wedding. Oh my god. Well, you just went to a wedding, any any chance?

SPEAKER_03 34:48

No, I didn't drink. Oh, that's true. That is the joke.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

That was the joke I didn't drink. Um, my pregnancy was not uh that exciting as yours or traumatic. I don't know what word you want to use. I was eventful. Yeah, eventful. I just say it was eventful. Um I just had like weird things happen to me during that time. So um, you know, it was I mean, I'm already the poop girl, so we may as well just keep going with that. Um I didn't know that it was oh here's that that word again, normal. And I'm I'm using that in quotes because I I actually learned that it didn't matter whatever happened to you when you were pregnant was normal.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:33

Like it's normal to shit out the size of a brick the after being constipated, because that's normal too. It's normal to be constipated for like 15 days when you're pregnant. I yeah. And then when I tell you a brick, I actually can't believe that came out of me. I remember like I c I couldn't flush the toilet. Do you understand? I had to take it out of the toilet because I was I was super embarrassed too, by the way. I was only with my husband for like married, like living together not even two years. So like I he can't know that I poop. Like it's just it's not a thing. I still don't, honey. Um so anyway, I remember like staring. It was like me against the toilet. Like I'm just like looking at it and I'm like, what am what am I gonna do? What could I do with this? What am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 36:20

The thing, the thing was like Did you did you get a hemorrhite from that?

SPEAKER_03 36:25

No. No. No. So I'm I'm just as confused as you are. Like that this thing came out of me, and I'm I'm just you're like, that's not supposed to come out of a like can't, like literally can't anyway. I re I remember like having to go downstairs, get like a plastic like shopping bag. Oh my god. Like reach in, get it. I'm like like gaggy tired. So I had to manhandle this thing. Do you understand?

unknown 36:54

Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 36:55

Anyway, okay, so that was and apparently that was normal. Now, how how far along were you then? That was very early on. Very early on. Which is also, you're like, I can't tell anybody. No one knows I'm pregnant. Like, like this is this is pre the 12 weeks. Okay. Um, later on, I lost all but maybe four eyelashes. Only in one eye.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

Uh apparently that was normal. You I have yet to know anyone. I also wish I knew um about like false lashes, strip lashes. I did none of it. I I did eyeliner real thick on one eye, and then just mascara it like crazy and to create that happened twice. That happened during the pregnancy and then post-pregnancy.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

There's I mean, typically post-pregnancy you have a lot of hair loss and it can affect eyelashes.

SPEAKER_03 37:50

Shit like okay. One eye, I mean, I would have preferred both eyes, if I'm being honest. Like one eye of losing them all twice.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

I it's your your um your hormones were uh raging. Were they?

SPEAKER_03 38:08

Because let me tell you what not only then did I lose those eyelashes, I gained hair, facial hair. I mean, again, the the derma planing was not a thing. I remember getting my hair done, and this is like oh man, I I even I I think I did say I feel like a whale. I was so enormous. This was at the end, but I remember asking my hair person, like, can you just take one of those razors that you do for men where they do like the back of the neck? I was like, can you just do this to my face? And she wouldn't do it. And I was really mad. I understand why she didn't uh to an extent. Um but I I was I was I was a hairy oh and that's the other thing. Okay, again, just things that I I wish I knew I could do. I didn't know that you could do birth glam, okay? I didn't know that I could like put makeup on and then have the picture taken of me. No, no. My beautiful husband took a picture of me in right in the moment, that's fine. And I can see my hair on my face. And I remember I still was really mad about this. I remember my husband's uncle like commented about it. And I remember being like, you son of a fin. Um and he didn't and he kind of said it like to me, like we were he I was in the room when he commented, and it was something about like wolverine, you know, just and was it that bad? No, I really I don't even think I have the picture. I don't want to see it. My hair, I have a beard, like it's anyway. And then and then I had another shit brick, but I was experienced then after giving birth. And I'm like, oh, I know this. I know what to do. I did have a third degree tear. Oh I had nurses from other areas coming to just see it because it was apparently amazing and they've never seen that before, and then I had hemorrhoids. But I don't um I don't remember any of this being an issue. Like, I don't remember I remember I did one sits bath and I was like, this is this is weird and I don't enjoy this. I never did another one and I would had to go up flights of steps because that was the house I lived in. Like I just Do you do you remember the squeezy bottles?

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Oh, after I do. You know what? I loved those. And the pads you would put on. Yes, yes. Oh, those were so guys, the the postpartum undies. Like now they have really nice ones. Oh, these were like mesh.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

These were the mesh ones, and then you put I was in complete I I did not know I was going to the hospital. We had nothing. No hospital, nothing was packed. Yeah. I felt like, yeah, I and I still, again, I told you I did no research.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

I did not know Oh, so I always laughed. I was like, I'm not doing Lamar's class. They're like, Do you want to do Lamaz class? And I was like, who the fuck does Lama's class? It will never go like that. You can do Lama's. I said, if I did Lama's class, I will end up with like a C-section. Like I was convinced. And I I always said, like, I I do not envy anybody who has to have a c-section. Like, I would I would have done anything if they said you have to have, I would have been like, I will stand on my head. I don't care what you for hours. Like, it is not so like I had that in my head that that was not going to happen to me.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

I am grateful I did not have to have a c-section. Yeah. It probably would have been fine, only because I again did no research. Um I I wonder, like, I if I were to get pregnant today, like I wonder what would I do differently. Because it's been, it'll be 14 years, so obviously a lot has changed. But like, would I do a home birth? I don't I don't think so. I don't like hospitals either, but maybe a birthing center.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

A birthing center. Like I would have preferred to have done a birthing center if I could have, but it was COVID, and then I had proclamsia and I had to. Oh my god. So of a little normal. And they induced me too with her. So like I had all those things. Um and but I would have loved, and I think I would have i had I not had like the pre like I would have been a good candidate for that. And I would have I honestly think I would have liked to do a water birth. Um, like in a tub or something. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I would have been really comfortable because at one point I was like, I just want to shower. I would like to try that.

SPEAKER_03 43:14

I mean, it I'm I'm willing to say I'm not going to ever in my lifetime, but I would like to know what that is like.

SPEAKER_01 43:22

So my friend did home births twice.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

Well, she did well, she went to a facility once, and then she did it at home. Now she never did a tub or anything. She just did Wow. Um, one time she was on bed, one time she was on the floor on all fours. I've heard that too. Being on all fours. Well, her situation like she was she got very lucky because she ended up having a great midwife and baby had shoulder dissocia, and she literally had to shove the baby back up inside her um because that's a lot of times when you have a home birth like that, and a baby ends up having a shoulder dissocia or something in the middle. What is that? What a word are you saying? Shoulder dystocia, it's where the shoulders get stuck, they're not in the right and they can't come down. And honestly, it a lot of times babies die from it if you're not able to get them out fast enough. Oh so she fortunately was able to get her out, and she was a bigger baby too. Um but a lot of times, you know, they'll see women come in from home births, and most of the time if they're coming in there, it's because a tragedy happened or something tragic. Um which is awful to think of. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:38

I mean it happens. My we had a friend, she was a labor delivery nurse, and I remember again, I was a child. I was like 22, and I remember being like, Oh my gosh, this is so exciting, and she's like, Yeah, um, it's not always happy and exciting in a birthing in a birthing ward or whatever. And I it took me, I was like, Oh right. Because immediately you think, oh, babies delivery. And and that's back when I was an optimist about everything. Yeah. Now I would never dare make that comment. But I remember her being like, yeah, like it's not always like that. Like, oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

It's like my mom used to always say, whenever she would find out, like my sister-in-law or me, or you know, whoever it was that was pregnant, my s my other sister, that she couldn't breathe until we had them. Because, you know, it was just like you anything can happen. And yes, anything can happen once they're here as well. But you know, the amount of things that do happen um during pregnancy, which is, you know, why like uh women should be put more on a pedestal because we do do something that only a woman can do. Like we create life and you know, that's not a small feat. And for a lot, you know, there's a lot of women that go through a lot of things and they just do it in silence. Yeah. And they say nothing. And um so I think that uh it's definitely one of the um It's amazing. Amazing creations that we are able to give to this world.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

It's it's pretty b bananas when you think about it. Like just the fact that that's I don't know, and I hope it continues.

unknown 46:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

So one of the things I remember during pregnancy is everybody used to ask me, hmm, what are you gonna name your kid? And for me, I knew.

SPEAKER_03 46:51

Oh, I did not know.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

I knew right away. And uh I'll say that the uh the fathers weren't necessarily on board. And I just was kind of like, well, I mean, I'm carrying them, so I get the final say. I get the final say. Um I always said that I didn't want to pick a popular name because my name is Rachel. And there was always five million Rachels. I also didn't want to give them a weird name because nobody wants a weird name. Um, you know, I'm sorry if your name is Apple or Orange or King. Um but North. North I North or West or Yes. Um, I, you know, that was always the question. And then I had picked a name, and somebody else that I knew that was pregnant was thinking about that same name. And I was like, please don't pick that name, please don't pick that name in my head. Like I didn't actually verbally say that to her. Um but in my head I was like, but that's my name. I know. And I don't want your kid to have my kid's name. And um I think at that point I should have been like, okay, I need to change his name, but I didn't, um, because there are a lot of kids with the name, but I still like it. I still like it too. Um yeah, I just and everybody's opinions, so everybody has an opinion, right?

SPEAKER_03 48:16

Everyone has an you know, the opinion is only valid. And and by that I mean they feel like it's valid. Up until pri like and when you actually say the child's name when they are in the room, there's no comment usually. Yeah. It's only when you're thinking about it. And they're not here yet. They're not here yet that they feel like, oh, that's uh that's a and just insert.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

So did you have anybody that was like, I don't like that name. You shouldn't name her that.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Well, mine was more like we didn't have a name. And I it's at some point I was like, I'm willing to receive any any um feedback. I I I I mean truly, no idea. We had the name husband suggested the name a couple times, but it just didn't land. Like I wanted like a spooky, of course I did. I wanted like a spooky name. Now, I will say the name I really wanted was Evie. I like that. I like that too, but it was my cat's name because we had cats first. So I was trying to convince, I'm like, okay, well maybe if I can rename the cat Eie, because she knew her name. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, I could do Edy and then uh then I'll use Evie. And I'm like, I can't, because I was still in love with my cats. I'm like, but that's my cat's name. And of course, you're emotional when you're pregnant and you can't hurt your cat's feelings. Um so instead we did Eve for the middle name. And then when I put her name with Eve, I was like, there it is. There's my spooky like everything clicked, and that was October 14th, and she was born the 24th. So it was really down to the wire. Now, boy name, knew that instantly.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

What was your boy?

SPEAKER_03 50:10

Graham.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

Okay. Graham Andrew. Was he on board with that? Yeah, yeah. Was he on board with your daughter's name?

SPEAKER_03 50:18

Yeah, because he came up with the first name. Okay. And then, but I was like, eh, uh, and then when I put it and and then you know what's really funny is after I really thought about it, when I was a kid, my cousin and I would always play house. Background was called house. Um, and it it just hit me like later, like that was always my name playing house. And I had no I made no connection to it. Yeah. And but yeah, I didn't tell I didn't tell anybody until I told my dad. My family is very um, like my extended family is very opinionated about names and baby names. And I learned that early on, because my aunt had five kids, well has five kids, and I remember every time she'd say a name, everybody would make comments, and she's like, you know what? I'm done telling all of you. And I just remember being like, Okay, that's what you do, you don't tell anybody, and that is for your own good. Unless you are that confident and certain, and no one can say anything to change your mind.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

No one was gonna change my mind. I was like, no, this is what it is, I don't really care. Now at your baby shower, did you know then? Yeah. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 51:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:37

So I knew I knew the name. I was, you know, 100% like that was the name. Um, the spelling of it, so I spell it a little differently. I spell it E N instead of O N. I like that. Yes. Um, but and her dad did not want me to name her that.

SPEAKER_03 51:57

Oh, I love the name. I think it's well, first of all, it really suits her personality. It just does. But it is not common. Yeah. And I can understand a father's hesitation, but it's not so outlandish that like it's not it's not Apple.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

No. So And and Um, you know, I feel like it could be either way. Like you could it could be a boy or a girl name kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 52:25

So Yes. Yes. Um, I thought I had something else. I'm just gonna Oh, back to the cats. Um okay, so this is this is another like really funny sad story. It's not sad, but it's just pathetic, is what it is. I became home from the hospital, had a tiny little thing in the you know, in the carrier. So my cats. Okay, I had my cats first, okay. Had them for a full year. In fact, one of the cats shares a birthday with my child. Okay. Like same my the cat's a year older, which is hysterical. Um cats are really mad at me, and they like hid from me for like a week, and I remember absolutely bawling my eyes out and thinking that I made a huge mistake. Guys, hormones are wild. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 53:26

You made a huge mistake by having a baby because your cats were mad at you. Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 53:30

Which does not even sound remotely um of sound mind, which it was not. But I remember, like, my poor husband. I remember him sitting with me, and he's probably like, This woman is out of her fucking mind. Like, what am I, what are we dealing with? I remember, I remember, like it was yesterday. I'm sitting in this white, like cream colored chair. He's sitting on the couch next to me, and I'm just bawling my eyes off. And he was like, Well, I don't think we can take her back. Like, I don't think we I will never, I will never forget. And I'm like, Okay, yeah, this is ridiculous. And I'm I do think it won't at some point the quick tears turned to Laughter, not laughter, I'm not willing to say laughter, but was like a knowing smile of like like the saying me was in there, like I was there, but just not I was so unbelievably emotional, and then and then the cats did forgive me, and then everything was fine. And then the one cat that shares her birthday every night when she would cry, the cat would come in to get me, and then we would go in the room together. Uh-huh. And I'm like, oh, that's cute. And then I had an aunt tell me that cats are gonna steal her breath. Yes, that uh that was that was interesting, or not my aunt, it was my grandmother, obviously, because my aunt is a is a nurse, and she was like, No, that's not how that works. And I remember thinking, that's insane. And someone did suggest me to put a screen over the crib. Oh. Because I had cats. I would love to know more about that. Why are cats stealing bread?

SPEAKER_01 55:12

I mean, it was it was I mean, I think they worry about the cats getting in and suffocating, laying on top of them.

SPEAKER_03 55:19

Well, I heard something a little darker. It w which we're we'll just go there. It was that babies will have like the milk, like like residue in their mouth, and then the cats will try and get it, and because then they saw they cut that's terrible. I don't want to cut this. Um but either way, it was to take their breath, and it's crazy. And I I don't um I don't think that's a thing.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

Um I guess I think the biggest thing is like SIDS when it comes to that. Um dark.

SPEAKER_03 55:54

We can't end on that. So yeah, I guess to wrap things up, um from what you can tell, just from us two people, very different pregnancy stories. And that's why you need to listen to people's pregnancy stories because you really don't know. Having a baby is not just having a baby.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

Well, let me ask you one more thing before you go. What was your what was your weirdest post baby?

SPEAKER_03 56:22

Oh god. Um the first thing that came to mind is again, it's dark. We can't end on this, but I I remember being um I remember it was late at night, and God, we're like sh maybe a week old, I'd say. And I had like this feeling, like, like, again, I sound like I was honestly I probably had postpartum, but I didn't know I didn't know that was a thing. So, you know, I'm fine now. Um, I remember holding her and feeling that there was like darkness in the room. And I remember like literally like walking around in a circle and like praying because I I just I felt like this I cannot explain, it was this dark presence. And I just remember like, yeah, and that it was it was really weird, and I just kept like praying and praying and praying and like saying over and over again, like like get out of my house. It was it was really weird, and then something did shift, and then I'm like, okay, I feel better now, and that's when I probably should have called 911 put myself in an asylum or something. Um, it was and who knows? It could have been that I was sleep deprived, it could have been really something, I don't know, but I just remember it was it was definitely there, and then it wasn't. And what was your weirdest bodily oh, other than the shit of bricks? Yeah. Um well, I didn't again didn't know. Boy, I could write I could write a book on things I didn't know. Yeah. Um, I did not know that you could lactate just hearing other babies when your baby wasn't around. That was awesome, super embarrassing. Didn't know that you lactated in your sleep. Oh yeah. I remember the first like stretch of time that I had, like sleeping. I woke up the mattress, you want to talk soaked mattress. And the smell. Oh god. Oh god, yeah, I know the smell of it. I'm pretty sure the smell is what woke me up because I was like, oh my god. Like, what have I done? Like, like just, just oh. Now, did you breastfeed for a while? Uh seven months. I had a really, really hard time. And I boy, I'm gonna cut out how many times I said I wish I knew. I didn't know that there were consultants that could help you with that. I didn't know I tried to pump exclusively for a time because she never latched properly. I tried the stupid nipple guards. Like we tried, and then on top of that, my child was, they called it a super medical term, sleepy baby. So she, right? So she'd always fall asleep. I'd have to wake her to feed. Like it was just such a oh my god, it was such an emotional time. But I just I wanted to breastfeed so badly, and I just felt like an absolute failure. Like I couldn't do it. And yeah, we had to supplement early on because she actually lost a lot of weight in the hospital, so they wouldn't let us go home. Um, yeah, so I feel like if I wish I could do that chunk over again. Yeah. And then by the time she got to seven months, I'm like, I I've done everything I can do. Yeah. But uh yeah, I it was traumatic. How about you?

SPEAKER_01 59:54

Um, so I did not have postpartum with the first one. I did really bad with the second one. I did breastfeed both. Um the first time it was easy. The first time? The first time it was easy. There was no issues. He went on, he latched right away. It was like nothing. Wow. And it was funny because they had asked me even in the hospital, like, have you done this before? I was like, uh no. Natural okay. No. Um he just, you know, for whatever like he just it was good. We did not have any issues there.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:29

Um Now has that set you up like second pregnancy then?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

Did you feel like I was like, oh, well, this this should be fine, like I shouldn't have an issue, it'll be the same again. Come to find I kept telling, and I did go to lactation several times, and everybody kept saying she doesn't have a lip or a tongue tie. Well, she did. And I kept saying, like, something isn't right, like she's just not latching right, it doesn't feel like what I remember, and even though it had been wish you could compare it. Like I was like, it's just not right. And then I felt like I wasn't I was like, is she getting enough? Because she was crying, and it wasn't that she wasn't getting enough, it was she had an allergy to dairy. Okay, that's very different, and so that's why she was just screaming and like then I had to cut I had to cut dairy out completely from my diet. And then because she wasn't latching, I ended up pumping a lot and I went back to work really early, so I only nursed her like mornings and nights and up until eight months, and I pretty much primarily pumped the entire time, and then I ended up and I don't know if you ever had mastitis or no, but I was terrified of it. So I got mastitis twice with her. Ugh. With her, I got it twice, and I was trying to get it out, but I always say I made skim milk with him and I made creamer with her, and it was true because if you ever looked at the bottles and they would create if you put it in the fridge and you create that ring that thick Yes, yes, her entire bottle was like that. Okay, his was skim milk, literally like there was no, there was nothing. It was like my body could made completely different milk for both kids. That's what they're saying. She he was a rail, he was a skinny, tiny little thing, and she was a porker. And it was just solid. It's just solid. Like she had rolls. And um, so that was probably I mean, I don't wish that on anybody. It's the most painful, uncomfortable. Like you feel like you're hit by a freight train with a high fever, like you can't even lift your arm on the side that you get it. Oh it was just so uncomfortable. And twice because I would and it was when I was trying to wean off. So I didn't I said when my kids were walking, that's when I was stopping. And they both walked at 15 months. Oh wow. So I exclusively pretty much primarily breastfed the first one. I would pump here and there, but it was very rare. And then with the second one, I almost almost exclusively pumped and and nursed, but not as frequently. Um and uh so I had to slowly wean off. And I was one of those people, like, I don't know who's out there who's like this, but I had to wake up even in the middle of the night every two to three hours to pump. I had to in the middle of the night. And the one time that I didn't was the one time I got mastitis. Ugh. So I did not sleep through the night until every scared 16 months when I finally stopped. So when they talk about like being sleep deprived and waking up and like all those women, oh my kid sleeps through the night and I sleep through the night. I'm like, fuck you.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:53

Yeah, I totally. I I get I still get mad. I'm like, you don't know what it's like. Yeah. And on that note. On that note. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed this special pregnancy. I have an announcement. No, I'm just kidding. I She does, I don't. No, no, Rachel did not have alcohol, so she's fine. And I'm fine too. Yeah. So there you have it. Um my mom probably got very excited just then and then was like, oh. Yeah. Um, alright. Thanks for hanging out. And uh tell a friend, talk to us on Instagram, send us an email, let us know about uh the mints and the waters. Yes, yes. I should put up. I need to uh Instagram for the computer is not the same as the app.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:53

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:53

You cannot do anything fun, you can't do any polls can't do music on the computer, and that's the only way I do the the podcast Instagram account. So I don't know what to do there. I don't feel like having a third Instagram account on my phone. I guess I could. Yeah. The buttons right there, add account the things I do for you people, the things I do for you. Anyway, we love you. Thanks for hanging out. This has been the Beauty Files. Case close.