Case #025

The OBSESSION episode. SPOILER WARNING Amy and Rachael dive into the new horror film Obsession, unpacking its premise about a cursed wish that turns a shy guy's crush into a terrifying, unhinged obsession. Their spoiler-filled breakdown of the twisted ending flows into a game of hypothetical three wishes.

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SPEAKER_01 0:21

This is funny. Alright, so we might cut all this because we're waiting for the air to sound off. But during the movie, like my husband comes down and he brings popcorn, and I want to have some, but I know that like that crunchy sound. And dialogue is kind of a little bit important. Yeah. So I'm I'm at like this crosswords. I was like, well, I really want it. Because I've had a drink. So that makes me want popcorn. Anyway, I was really struggling. And I just want you to know, I think I only I think I dipped into it a couple times when the volume was louder. I was conscious of my popcorn. Your your etiquette, your popcorn etiquette? Yes, popcorn etiquette.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

It did not bother me and it wouldn't have bothered me anyways. That makes me feel just a sigh of relief. It's just like when people like laugh or giggle during a movie or they're like, oh, like reacting. That kind of stuff doesn't faze me too much. I'll tell you, I think I expect it in some from some, especially from some people.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Okay. That's that's important. I think if you're watching a movie at home and you're and you know who you're with, I guess they get a pass. But if you're like out in the public at a movie theater, you need to like bottle that up.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Because nobody I don't know. People don't bottle it up more. I think they let it out more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

No, but I get I can't recall the last time I saw a comedy in the theater. So I can't really say I recall people laughing.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

I think there were a couple of scenes when I went to see The Devil Wars Prada 2 where it was a little bit funny. Okay. And people laughed a little bit. But it wasn't like distracting. No. It was appropriate. It was appropriate. But I mean, you have people getting up and walking and whatever. When you go to the movies, expect the unexpected. You know? Well, that's the first movie we've ever watched together. So you probably didn't know how I would react. I didn't know how you. Although this was your second time watching it.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

So but oh hi, for the listener, we're um we are we're hot off. We're hot. Well, we are hot. But we're we're hot off of watching the movie Obsession. Um Rachel came over, we had a we had a viewing, a screening, if you will. And to your point, yes, that was our first featured film together, watching it together.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

I mean, I I was my etiquette appropriate.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

You were you were appropriate, yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

I I did look down at my phone and text a few times. I was trying not to be, but um, you know.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

As long as you felt like you didn't miss crucial points.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

No. I think during those times it was slower. It was there were a lot of slower. We call them uh plot building?

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Sure. We'll go with that. Some movies some movies get there get it wrong, other movies get it right. I had a lip flip, and movie is really difficult to say, and I'm pretty sure it sounded like I said booby, but I didn't. I said movie, and it sounds really similar.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Yeah, she definitely meant to say movie.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Movie. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:45

So we I finally watched the movie, and I understand the no, no, no, no, no, no. I I get it now. I get it now. I Which is cool because now you're in on it. Yeah. Like before people would talk about it, and I'm like, I have no idea what y'all are talking about. I didn't even see like a clip from it or anything.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

Um well, as we've said in the past, I I don't like scary movies. I don't I don't do well. So I had to I had to watch a bunch of clips, like a lot. Even even I think YouTube even had like the first 10 minutes or of of the film just so I could understand the vibe and the you know um watching it a second time, I was able to actually enjoy it because I knew what was happening, which is helpful. Um, but I a couple things like I picked up one that obviously the more you watch a movie, yeah, you're gonna see it. But um, yeah, I well I guess we should start with let's always assume anytime my daughter's writing a paper, I always say to her, assume your listener or your you know your audience has no clue what you're talking about. Right. Right. So if this is your first time tuning in, hi, welcome to the Beauty Files. Um, but if you've heard the last maybe two now episodes, we've we've talked about it.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

Yeah, we absolutely talked about it. We talked about I I was the 50% uh on the last podcast that uh messed that one up. So I finally was like, hey, we're at a hundred percent now. You want to watch that movie? And she's like, Yeah, just come on down, we'll watch it. She's like, I'll watch it again. I was like, all right, cool. Um otherwise I was gonna watch it at home by myself. So, you know.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

I think in company is always always better. Um, but yeah, it is the I guess, yeah, it's the horror movie of the summer. Um it's called Obsession. It's um an indie independent film, and I think it got a lot grief, a lot of very good. In fact, I think Rotten Tomatoes is at 94%, which is pretty high. Pretty high. Yeah. Um, so I guess the premise is that you have your your main character, his name is Bear, which I just found out is actually short for Baron, which watching that a second time I picked up one. Um, and he has a crush on a girl named Nikki. Oh, by the way, spoiler, spoiler said. So if you don't, if you want to see it, uh don't uh listen. Unless you're like me, and you will listen because you want to hear the spoilers before you watch it.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Yeah, I I absolutely agree with that. I had a client tell me about a Netflix series that she had watched, and she's like, you should watch it. And she was telling me a little bit about it, and I was like, okay, well, just tell me. Just tell me. I'm my way too. I like to just tell me. She's like, but if I tell you, you're not gonna watch it. And I was like, maybe, maybe not. You never know. What was the series, you remember? Um uh I will find you. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

It sounds scary.

SPEAKER_02 6:57

It's not scary. It's it's it's not scary.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

Look, normal disappointed. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

I mean, it's it's sad. It's more like a crime, like an unsolved crime type thing.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Your crimes.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

But okay. But he didn't do it. It's a he didn't do it one, but he was in jail for it, kind of thing. Injustice. So it just, it just and every time. So she told me a lot about it. Okay. But there were still lots of things that she did not. So did you watch it? I did. Okay. Would you recommend it to the audience? I do. I liked it. Would I like it? Um, I think you would because you'd be intrigued by it. Okay. You'd want to, you'd be like, wait a minute. No, you'd be like, no, no, this no. You'd be like I this person did it. And all along, all along, if you did not know, you would think certain people did it. Okay. And it would drive you nuts because you would be like, Yes, I know who did it. And then you'd be like, shit, nope, not them.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

I won't know if I should watch it until I watch it. Yeah. It's one of those.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

But it's a short it's not a long like series, it's a shorter one. It's a pretty quick one, and there's not gonna be like uh uh it's not gonna continue on. Okay. So it's a pretty short one that you could watch in a couple of days. What was it called again? I'll find it. I'm pretty sure it's was um I will find you. Okay. And it's I'm gonna find you. It's about a little boy that apparently the dad murdered. Apparently. I'm hanging on to that word right there. Apparently. Apparently. Okay. The dad murdered and he was accused of it, and they had all the evidence.

unknown 8:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

They had all the evidence, and dad was sitting in jail. Because they had all the evidence that the dad did it.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 8:49

So when I say this was a thriller. It was, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Alright, but today we're not talking about that. No. We're talking about oh, so okay. I feel like you were about to say clients talking about obsession.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

Yeah, clients talking about obsession. And watching that movie, you talk about and you hear about clients talking about other relationships and just how especially their children. Especially when they talk about their children, their older, grown-up, not grown-up children in relationships. And I will say, watching Obsession, you can see how creepy and how unstable people are. People are. And you know you listen to how somebody else interacts with somebody in the real world, okay? Because this is just a movie that we watched, right? And you hear about things that he has that, you know, the male has done to the female and the female has done to the male in the past. And yet they keep continuing on in these relationships. And I just find it so ironic that we have these movies that come out and they talk about these unhealthy, unhinged relationships between two people, whether it's more the male or for more the female. And yet you see it everywhere. You don't just walk away and say no.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

You just we all just keep doing it. So that's where we were about to travel down. So the main character, his name is Baron short, and he goes by Bear, and he has a crush on a girl named Nikki, and it's it's about four friends that work at um I guess like a music store a music store, which they all could afford houses. I thought that was really interesting. Yeah, I did so. I don't see how they can afford houses. I don't think that many people walked into that store, but no, no, but um all that to say, they they had houses, but um, four friends, and it's kind of like a love triangle situation. Um, Bear really likes Nikki, and then you find out later on that maybe some other people have a crush on people or they were already hooking up. And in Bear's desperation of just wanting to pour his heart out to Nikki, he just can't because he's just this shy guy and he's introvert and very introverted. So he stumbles upon something called a one-wish willow. And in his moment of desperation, because he just couldn't share his feelings with Nikki, he makes a wish kind of flippantly. Yeah, oh there just says, I wish Nikki loved me more than anything in the world, and then broke the this willow that you're supposed to do. And then kind of, yeah, the wheel started falling off.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Like, y'all, she he dropped her off at her house, and she went in her house, and then he made this wish, and she's standing there in the dark, in the dark, just staring at him.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Yeah, so I really enjoyed that. I I throughout the entire movie, they kept cast like putting her in the shadows, and then even like the whites of her eyes, and it was very um, I guess creative, for lack of a better word.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

I I it reminded me of the exorcism in certain aspects of the movie, just her demeanor, um, her movements. So, like if there are some wild scenes. If that kind of thing creeps you, honestly, that creeped me out more in her lurking in the shadows and stuff than some of the gory parts. Because I'm just like, no, like don't don't hide in the shadows and like try to scare me. That's not and crying, her sobbing, yeah, sobbing in the shadows with the facial expressions because you just see the glimmers of her face, and you're just like, whoo.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

So it's really interesting because you know, because I like to know the I want to know what's going on after the fact, or even before. I think I did all this research before watching the movie. I knew nothing, nothing. I I needed I needed some backup. Um, so the director was very um, very adamant on it. She was not an entity, it was not a demon. No, no, no, no, it was just truly a a wish gone wrong. It was her her self was still in there, and every once in a while she'd wake up.

SPEAKER_02 13:37

It reminds you, okay, and this is not, I am not making fun of anybody, but like it if you've ever heard about somebody who has bipolar or schizophrenia. Okay, let's go probably more schizophrenia, I would say, where it's like somebody else comes out. Yeah, it was very episodic. It was, and it was one minute she seemed absolutely normal, and the next minute it was like, where the F are her meds? Like someone needs to get them for her pronto because she lost it.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

Which I think is why I was blown away by the acting. Yeah, because she was it was just really good and really convincing and really like you felt sad for her. Because there's one part where she's sleeping, but she the real her is not sleeping. Yeah, and she says, kill me, yeah, kill me, she's sleeping, don't wake her. And that's when I realized that Bear is the villain of this story because he says, What? What what's so wrong with loving me, with being with me? Like he got offended that the real her came out and was like, please, I don't I don't consent to any of this. Right. And he's like, No, no, this is my wish, it's what I want.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

But then when he realized like somebody else might love him. Yeah, then everything changed.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Then everything changed, and it was like, well, we He finally had the feeling of what it feels like to be liked by somebody, and then he realized I chose poorly, and it's again all about him. He finally has that feeling, so he's like, Alright, I'll go with this person, and then that person really suffered the consequences. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Which is then honestly, the ending was a little surprising.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

I loved the ending. But go on.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

Yeah, I I I didn't hate it. Yeah, it was surprising. I didn't hate it, it was just not exactly what I thought would happen.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

Okay, so let's break down the ending. So, okay, major spoilers. So if you don't want to know, then like or if you do want to know, I don't recommend you fast forward. I think you should listen. Um, because honestly, hearing it is one thing, seeing it is a whole nother thing. Oh, yeah. So bear, he finds himself, two of his friends are deceased now, and he's like, Oh my god, okay. And this Nikki, the the obsessed, is um, you know, she's she wants to be with him. So he's like, Yep, we'll make it work. He's telling her everything he needs to to get her to be calm. Yep. And then he goes into the bathroom, and then she's banging out the door because she's gonna be able to get it.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Oh, she is yeah, she is losing it trying to get that door down.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

So he the only way he can break the spell is if he dies, right? Correct. So he finally realizes, like, okay, I have to take one for the team here. So he puts a puts a gun in his mouth, and he can't do it because he's he's a scaredy cat, he can't do it. So speaking of scaredy cats, his cat, Sandy, R A P, she accidentally takes some Oxycode of his and she dies in the beginning of the film, which I'm not even gonna go into detail about that throughout the movie because it's really something. But he then has the oh, that's what I'll do. Yeah. I will take, I will drink pills and pills and pills. So he's in the bathroom, he's accepted his fate. Yep. And then in the distance, you hear the sound of the one wish willow cracking. And well, first the music and then the crack, and then all of a sudden he tries to throw up. Did you see that? Yes, and he couldn't throw up because he heard the crack. He heard the crack, and then all of a sudden he was in a whole new light. So, did you deduce what happened? Did you just I my assumption is that she wished that he loved me back or loved me as much as so he then comes out, they have this full minute, I would say, of feeling absolutely infatuated, equal, happy, whatever. And then the pills kick in. But because she doesn't know what he did, and he doesn't know what he did because he something altered, he then passes away. Yes. And then what happens? Oh, but did you notice? As soon she was about to take the gun and put it in her mouth. Because she was so distraught. But then that he was gone. Because he died, the real her woke up. And so she didn't know why she was holding the gun. And then a whole different, whole different sob fest happened.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

I I think at that point she then realized, like, oh my god, these I killed two people.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

I'm on the hook for all of these murders. And now this guy, like So that's the and that's why I think he is really the villain. So even even after in his death, she now has to pay for what he did to her. Right. Because now she's there's well, one will look like a suicide, obviously. But the two are for sure murders. Um no one's gonna believe that she was under a spell.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

I mean, I think that she possibly could get away with it because of all the marks on her and how extreme they are that he did it to her since he looked fine. I didn't think about that. And then it would look like he was the one who shot the gun. I love this. And you know this is the true crime coming out, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

This is good.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Guys, you gotta see this movie. Yeah. But I mean, thinking about it, honestly, she probably goes to a psychiatric ward.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

Like I poor dear think there's such a such a thing that exists in the world as a one wish willow.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

You know, the one guy, he had a one wish willow, and all he did was wish for a billion dollars. And let's let's be honest, it happened pretty quick, didn't it?

SPEAKER_01 20:01

Yeah, within seconds, yeah. That was pretty cool. Yeah, right. Well, we had to take a break for me. We don't know what we were saying, but either way, um, did you like the movie?

SPEAKER_02 20:14

I did like the movie. Um, I do not think that the comments that I heard on TikTok that it would make you vomit.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

I told you. I told you it really wasn't. Um Well, there was one scene that maybe if you have a queasy stomach.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

I mean, it didn't creep me out that much.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 20:35

Which is why I think I liked it. The other thing too is we talked about this, the back room. So it was when I my friend and I went to the movies, it was either gonna be the back room or the obsession. Yeah. And it was sold out. Okay. So stupid. And like, I I am not a scary movie person. Like I I'm just not. Um, I find uh uh it's more scary watching true The Exorcism, yeah, it's a little bit scary. I mean I you know what also uh I find a little scary too is um when they go into quote unquote haunted houses. Do you remember when they used to have that on TV? I forget what those shows were, and it would be like these weird things were happening. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Oh, they did that at Booby's Brewery.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

Yeah. And apparently they had some stuff, but I don't know. I mean, as much as I would be like, oh, that would be fun. If that shit happened to me, y'all, like, I don't know that I'd be this I don't think I would think it's fun. I don't know that it was fun. I would think it was interesting.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

Like oh, oh well, I have a question. Okay. I have a question and a story. Okay. Okay. Because you're from where I am. Yeah you lived you lived round these parts. Do you remember Ray Meyer Hot? Yes. Okay. Okay. So I'm hoping that a lot of you know what I'm about to say. But Raymar Hallow is an area in Southern York County. And I feel the lore is like there was a fire and some someone they thought somebody was a witch or something. She was trapped in the fire, then died in the house or something. Um, okay, so because you know, when you're in your young 20s and you're young and dumb, I lived like right by there. Yeah. So that would be our like pastime. We get in our car and drive down there, and they're not named roads, they're still like numbers or identified as road like street numbers. Um, one time we were down there, and it's like two o'clock in the morning, and we were with two another couple, and we would turn the car off and just sit there and just see what would happen, whatever. We did hear something, and then my friend's husband could not get the car started. I mean, it was like, and it was not an old car, and it's like turning, like it wouldn't turn over, and now I'm like, oh my god, like what is happening anyway? It finally did, and we we like got out of there very fast, but I didn't enjoy that um after the fact. I'm like, you know what? That was scary. Yeah, and I don't like the um Blair Witch project. Did you ever see that? I never actually saw that. Yeah. Were you scared? Because I feel like that was the first of its kind. It was like a first yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

And The Bloody Mary. Do you ever watch that? I've done it, but I've never there's uh is I don't think it's called that. I forget what it's called, but there's a movie, and that's like the whole promise of it.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

And it was I mean, I feel like if you're a teenager, you've done what's the what's the um light as a feather, stiff as a board.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Yep, everybody did all that, and like tried to mess with Ouija boards and like if only we could go back in time and like not have done those things. Although Do you have regret doing it? I always I used to feel a little icky. Yeah, it made me feel icky, it made me feel weird because I don't know that if I wasn't around those people that I would have ever done something like that on my own. Same. You know what I mean? So you you always have to wonder in is it pure is it the like but then you also wonder, okay, well, what do we do nowadays with other people when we're peer pressured even as adults?

SPEAKER_01 24:38

So I want to know what the kids are doing at sleep at first. Because that is what you did, because you didn't have phones and oh see, this is like a big cultural thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

So, you know, while we did stuff like that that I, you know, we may have thought was innocent, like our kids might have been like, oh my gosh, you guys are freaking creepy. Like, why should we do that?

SPEAKER_01 25:03

You are right.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

I there's no way. Like these kids are afraid of their shadows, like they're not afraid of their phones, but if they would have done some of the stuff we did, oh yeah, they'd pee their pants. They would pee that they would why would you do that?

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Yeah, this just goes to show that millennials really are just the best. We are, and everybody else under us. We fucking babies. Well, we touched on this too in the last episode because we said we were like the trendsetters, they're just redoing everything we already did. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Which really means we really did pave the way.

unknown 25:35

We did.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

But yeah, I would say even more so because we were doing yeah, what's the is it Bloody Mary? Yeah. Is that when you turn the lights off in the bathroom?

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Yes. I cannot believe we did that. All of those things. We messed around with the weeds. I'm scared now. And you think about it, like you think about um Jumanji. Why didn't we talk about Jumanji? Jumanji's great.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Guys, we are still like really, really upset about. Yeah, there are just so many movies that we we had to do almost like a part, yeah, like a hundred-part series. Yeah. Because it's just it's endless.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

Jumanji was, I mean, not necessarily a Ouija board, but kind of it's it was their version, I guess. I don't know if it was Disney or not.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

I don't know. Oh, maybe even Paramount. I don't know. Either way, that was their their way of coming out with something like that.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Because they got trapped in the game, and you know, like everything came true, and like it was like it was almost like a Ouija board game type thing with dice, and you know, it was like if you haven't seen Jumanji now.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

Did you see wasn't there a Jumanji 2? Yeah. I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

I didn't love it. Um you did see it? Yeah, it's just Was that the Rock and Jack Black?

SPEAKER_01 26:54

I I feel like I remember it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

It's just not the original. It's not the original. Um, there's actually three because there was another one that came out after that. What? Uh yes.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

That seems unnecessary.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

It it was. The second one was definitely better than the third one, but there's definitely three. Okay. Um because you know, they're going into this game. You gotta get everybody back out, and then what happens?

SPEAKER_03 27:24

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

You know, so somebody else finds the game and they're like, wait a minute. The movie was terrible. Just wasn't done yet. You know, it's always like somebody's just not done. Just be done. Like, are they yeah, just be done. Just be done.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

But it's true because you can't not play it because then you're leaving the people behind.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

So that was how there became another one. So you know, okay. And you still didn't see the the new twister, which I I highly recommend, especially if you like the old twister.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

I really liked the old twister.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

I think you should watch the new one.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Was it called Twisters?

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Yeah. Wasn't there an S. Okay, I'm writing it down. I um I I owe you that because you watched Obsession. I did.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

You know, I'm not. I'll let you know in the morning. But right now, how you sleep I feel I feel okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

Well, it is helpful that we are podcasting and talking about it after the fact. I was a silly person and I watched it late at night, and then I just went to bed and I I didn't do well because I was looking at the shadows. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

See, now you also need to take a sleeping pill. I know, I know. Just so you, you know, you don't have to worry about it. It was only that it's the lurking. It was only that first night that I was like, but it is that's the creepy part. Yeah, yes, yes, you know what I mean. Like that I mean you think about anything, like knowing somebody is stalking you, or somebody is like that part of it, knowing like somebody is just like staring at you, or you can feel it. Like that's just that's why I think the actor did a good job.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

He really was He he was terrified. He was terrified, but he also wanted it. It was such a weird dichotomy. Yeah, it was just dichotomy, dynamic, one of those words, the die something. Yeah. Um, I really felt he he really did a good job. I I don't even know how you mix those two emotions together. And it's funny because I was watching interviews, still, I think this is all before I watched the movie. Um, he said he was legitimately scared while filming because he didn't know like what she was gonna do or how it was gonna look. And he's like, I was legit scared.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

I'm like, I love that.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

So it's really authentic. I wonder, like, did she say what she was gonna do? Did they tell her certain scenes she said she intentionally didn't tell him?

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Okay, which I love.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

Yeah, listen, you know what creeped me out the most was when she was reading the Hansel and like her her little story monologue, but um the voices that came out of her like they were just all over the place. Um, so I mean her screams were whatever um they were they were something also, but the voices that came out of her when she was reading that and the look of terror, because I can tell you what, if I was in that room too, I would have been like, someone needs to handcuff her and put her in the funny room, like just take her to the funny hospital because she's not right.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

You know, you say the word funny, and this is completely off topic. Um isn't it funny we have a bone called the funny bone? Like I I think my daughter said this last night. Something about, oh, I hit my funny bone. And I just had to just trip out for a minute. I was like, isn't that funny that we still call that a funny bone? It's a funny bone.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

It's a funny bone because it doesn't really hurt. Well, it like it's numb. It goes numb and it's like tingly.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

When's the last time you hit your funny bone?

SPEAKER_02 31:14

It's been a while, but it doesn't really hurt. It's kind of tingly, and you're just like, it's so weird.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

I get it, but like do doctors call that bone your funny bone? Are they also referencing that part of your elbow as a funny bone? We're gonna just go with yes, because why not? I know because it just sounds so silly.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Like, just go with yes, because I I think that Yeah, I guess. Anyway, that was my that was my but thought I, you know, on another note, again, going back to the topic. Yeah, go ahead. This um movie and relationships, um, it just shows how much like when you force something that shouldn't be forced, you have the wrong outcome. Yeah, it's true. And I just I think everybody should just really take a deep look. Because if you have to force something that much, no matter what it is, there's probably a deeper issue inside of yourself.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

Yes. Well, I mean, that's true. That's I mean, sometimes it's denial, ego, um, not willing to just admit the truth. I mean, all of that. It's it's true. Now, didn't you have um did you tell clients this week that you were gonna watch it? I did. And what was the because some people have have no idea what we're talking about. Right. They're like, I don't know, I live under a rock. That would have been me.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

So um there was a client who I guess they watched it for the first time like two weekends ago. They were on vacation and watched it and wanted my one client wanted her sister to watch it. Oh, okay. And she was like, I can't watch that. Oh and she said that she couldn't watch it because she had seen again TikTok. Oh TikTok. Um, she had seen, you know, certain clips on TikTok and said that it would be um very triggering for her, you know. Um, and so I do think sometimes we also as people might look a little too far into a movie. Um, but I mean, essentially they looked at it as essentially forcing himself on her. Um, you know, so there there was that to it, which I I could understand. Um there were some clients that were just like, you know, i it's almost like they feel like their kids are kind of in relationships like that, not necessarily wishing that we're trying to make something work. I'm trying to make something work that should not be working and has had breaks numerous times, you know, and things that have happened in the past too that you know pretty much show them like this ain't it.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Well, see, that to me meets means you should watch the movie or they should, so that they can see hey, here's here's like what happens. I mean, not maybe not exactly, but but kind of that is the message. Like, don't if it's not meant to be, don't force it.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

Yeah, it it is definitely uh a movie that will show you, like, hey, like you really should never force yourself onto somebody because you don't know how crazy you will become or they will become. And very good point. You know, you can send somebody into a whole world of crazy. Yeah. Yeah. In one way or another. And it's probably not a good crazy. So would you recommend the movie? I would recommend the movie. I think that I can't even say it's that gory. It's there's really like not like there's aggression.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

Um, I would say if you can't it's more psychological, honestly. It's more of a and and yeah, there's creepy um exorcism like movements. Movements and like hanging out in the shadows and shit.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

Like in terms of being Yeah, like rated R. I would say it's rated R for language, sexual content.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

Which I will say there's not that much like you see why I said you shouldn't watch it with your son. I do. Okay. But I mean, there were two scenes that were a little explicit, um, but not even like if you if that kind of thing offends you or you don't don't like watching that with a it's not the point of the plot. It's not, and it it that shouldn't deter you.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

There is one super violent scene. Yeah. Um, but I I still feel like there are way worse um I mean, war movies are way worse. Yeah. Like it just, I don't know. I would say this one's a crime of passion. Yeah. So that can be a little triggering. But I mean, all in all, it was a horror movie. That's that's what it's they were called. Right. So you can't really escape.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

And listen, I can't stand like the scary movies and all that kind of stuff. That to me is just like dumb. Like, oh my gosh, scary straighter. It is not like that. It is not stupid. I'd say this is a this is a proper scary thriller. It is. Like, I feel yeah. And if that wish could come true, I you know, I uh Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

You know, like you'll love this. Okay, if you have three wishes. Oh Lord. I'll go first because I've thought about this, obviously. Um okay, my three wishes are obviously infinite money. Yep. Um, I can eat whatever I want and still maintain like a good figure and good health and just good, healthy relationships. Whether that be with people I know, my spouse, like just in general, relationships. That's it. That's all I would need. I feel like those are like the three things.

SPEAKER_02 37:36

So I would say two of mine would probably be the same, but the one that would differ um would be because you have infant money, it doesn't matter what you eat, like you could take care of that. Oh, interesting. Okay. Okay, the relationship part, like that's not something that you can I mean, you cannot fix that with money, without money. Like you just can't. That's true. So but mine would be um like you truly own the things that you own. So like we live in a country where we're taxed to death and everything is you know, everything is based off of like government telling you this, that, and the other. And so what mine would be was Well freedom. I mean, true freedom is what mine would be. Yeah. I would I would choose that. Now, could that create a whole new world of other things? Absolutely. But you know, that's true. We don't really know how wishes Right. And but I do think that if you didn't have the worries that most of us you know the most normal society has, like, things might be different. You just don't know. You know, if if you truly made you, you know, what you made and you were able to not have to worry about everything? Yeah, keep it and not have to worry about everything being jacked up out all the time and That's true.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

What would life be like if we weren't actually let let's even take it one step further. What if money didn't exist? Or any kind of uh monetary anything? What if we were all just based off of like just I don't know, living together and working together? I mean, I feel like that's the Amish life. I don't know. I'd have to interview an Amish person. Because I feel I mean they still have money, a big money pot, but but only the elders.

SPEAKER_02 39:41

Native Americans. Yeah, but they're not happy now. They were happy before. Yeah, but they didn't have money then.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

I mean No, I mean, yeah, we ruined it for them, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

But that's what I'm saying. Like they didn't have that.

SPEAKER_01 39:55

I feel like they were pretty violent though.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

Yeah. They really settled their shit, like Right, but that's what true freedom was.

SPEAKER_01 40:03

Oh, but see, then I don't want that because that's just gonna make me think about it.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

And I didn't necessarily I didn't yeah, and I shouldn't say freedom, I should say freedom of like ownership. Like when you actually find it. I know what you meant. I'm just we're going in it now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

Now we're just like Did you ever see um the movie Bedazzled with Brendan Fraser and Elizabeth Hurley? It's like it's so cute. It's one of my favorite movies because it's just it's just funny, right? It's just silly comedy. But he uh if you haven't seen it, he Brandon Fraser is like this again, total nerd dork, has a crush on this girl named Alison, will do anything to be with her. It actually sounds a little bit like obsession.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Yeah, it is it is a little reminiscent.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

A little different, but always right. Guy likes a girl, girl doesn't know he exists. But he makes a deal with the devil and he gets he gets a lot of wishes. I forget how many. It's like five or something. It's like it's not three, let's put it that way. Right. Um, and every wish he makes, she, because it's the devil, Elizabeth Hurley, she finds a way to she finds a loophole. Yep. And it's a really cute and funny movie. We showed um my daughter that. She actually she really enjoyed it. Yeah, understood the humor. Okay. Yeah. At least what I wanted her to. I showed her maybe a year or two ago.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

So she might need to see it again. You never know.

SPEAKER_01 41:23

Or not. I don't know. We're getting at a weird age now where it's like, do I show her something that I think she'll now understand the reference, or should I just wait and let her watch that on her own?

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Still pick up things that we don't, or vice versa, and you're like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

Are we getting at a weird age where I'm like, do I want to see that with her? Or do I just want to tell her she should watch it and then she can watch it with her friends? So like it's like we're we're approaching that. I'm not there yet. Now I still would like to monitor everything, but she'll be 14. So like I was watching like stigmata and like all these crazy like horror films.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

I yeah, I mean, I was watching when we were able to. You know what I mean? Like we didn't have we still had to go to the movies. Movies and then it and then we had to go get them.

SPEAKER_01 42:21

There was one and Hollywood video. I did have one friend, her we would spend the night at her grandparents, and they had HBO. Okay. So obviously at like 2 a.m. we'd be I think I think that's how we watched Stigmata. And then we tried to do like a lot of things. Yeah, but you had to wait for that.

SPEAKER_02 42:45

Yeah, but you had to wait for that. Like it wasn't like you could just pick it, you had to wait until 2 a.m. to watch it.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

Oh, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

You had to look for that in advance.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

Or or I didn't know we were doing it until it was 2 a.m. Because it's it's a fine. We have seances and I mean that's all the stuff we did. You're so terrible.

unknown 43:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

I well, I don't want them to do it. But hey, for the listener, what's the craziest thing you've done at sleepover? What what was one of the um that you regret or that you're like, oh my gosh, Amy and Rachel talking about this made me think of blankety blank.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

Um yeah, sleepovers. It's funny because now I feel like sleepovers are you're either a household that does them or you're a household that doesn't. How about you, what's your stance?

SPEAKER_02 43:39

My youngest has not. She's young. Yeah. Um and my oldest, he does, but typically with people that I know really well.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Yes. So I am scared like we are entering high school.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

I think well, I don't know. See, like sleepovers ended for me at the end. End of ninth grade, but that's because I was friends with mainly all guys. Yeah. So obviously there wasn't a sleep ever happening.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Yeah, I you know, we're entering high school, so I know. I'm not so sure, like how do you feel about that?

unknown 44:18

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

He's gonna be fine.

SPEAKER_02 44:23

I I'm sure he is. It's just like entering each different phase, each different school, you're like, um, but you know, he does do sleepovers. We waited a long time before he did. Um and then he'll have people come over. I just somebody like, oh, wouldn't you rather them come to your house? And I'm like, Yes and no. I was gonna say yes and no. They're so messy and they're so dirty, and you just asked them to clean up after their friends and themselves. And their idea of clean is not your idea of clean. It is not. It is not. No. So, you know, I I kind of feel like if I know the person, I'd rather them stay over. If their parents are okay, I would rather them stay at their par at the other person's house and they can make their house a mess.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

Yeah, so say give yourself a little break. It's kind of like just taking one for the team every once in a while. I mean, girls are I don't want to say just as m well, they are. They just leave stuff everywhere. It's just a it's just a sprinkling of like, oh, they've been here.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Oh, they've been here, oh they've been, it's just, yeah. Yep. It's just a little bit of everywhere, and you're like, were we that messy? I mean, I remember my little sister having sleepovers, and there would be seven girls downstairs, and the amount of Oreo cookies and ice cream and blankets and just everything everywhere was chaos, and our house was the place to be. Did you have sleepovers? No, not really. No. No, no, I was not. I had a boyfriend. She was not like her and her friends didn't really have boyfriends until they like it was different. Yeah. I was very responsible. I worked all the time. Yeah. She's six years younger. Right, yeah. You know, at this point. You know, that time and age, I think it was a little bit different. Like, yeah, you had sleepovers, but nothing like they did. I feel like my my little sister's age did.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

Yeah. That makes sense. So I often think, do I want to go back to that time?

SPEAKER_02 46:40

You know, one of the reasons that I think also, and this is just me spitting it out, but that we had more sleepovers and we hung out more in that aspect is because we did not have telephones. We did not have that way to communicate. Um That's all there was to do on a weekend. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

And now you can talk to your you can lay in your own bed.

SPEAKER_00 47:03

I know.

SPEAKER_02 47:04

And it's like, you can lay in your own bed and you can talk to your friend and you can have a sleepover that way. You know what I mean? It's like you don't have to necessarily be with that person. I know, but that's so it's there's attached. It is, but I'm just saying, like, I think that's why why we don't have that like we did when we were younger. Because we had dialogue internets.

SPEAKER_01 47:29

Yeah, I mean, again, guys, we had to work for what we wanted, and now, you know, we sound like we're a thousand years old. We sound like we are really, really old. We're really not that old. We're not. I know we're not. It is funny though, because of my parents for the age I am now. I it age didn't even like really occur to me. Like I didn't understand it, but I knew that they were old. And they they weren't. So now I'm like, oh, just I guess my child does think I'm old and ancient. That makes me sad.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

Although I think no offense to our parents, um I think we're a little more hip, we dress a little bit more stylish, and I think we some of us moms can fit in a little bit more. I think you're right. The lingo and things like that, and sometimes they probably think I'm a teenager because especially if they see me from behind because I'm so short. You do look like a little teenager. You do. I mean, I turn around and obviously I'm not a teenager, but I'm like 21. Yeah. I wish. Um, but I do think it's a you know a little bit different. Yeah. We we aren't dressing old, like you know, we're dressing.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

Do you think though that's because of social media and like it's just constantly in your face? Like I'm trying to think what was even it was just like JC Penny and like those catalogs were sent home, and they're the designers weren't really like reaching to the the modern, like household.

SPEAKER_02 49:07

I will also say though, like while back then, um when we were teenagers, it was yeah, you wanted to look good, but it was nothing like what it is today. It was not pushed and thrown into your face the way it is today. The expectations were nothing like they are today. Like you see the Jennifer Lib houses, you see um Jennifer Aniston, you see, you know, anybody who is 50 to 60 years old and they look like they're 30. Yeah, and their bodies are still so like the expectations of our generation now versus what our parents had as expectations. Yeah, it seems like advertising.

SPEAKER_01 49:56

Advertising has finally caught up. Yeah. And maybe this is probably the only negative thing about millennials is that we are very we want what we didn't have kind of thing. Chicky. They know that they can capitalize on our desires. Yeah. And not to mention, like, everything's just better now. Facelifts are better, injectables are better.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

Also, it's not as secretive.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Like it's not as like as shameful as it was back then. Like you would do things and people like, oh, you did that? I know, you're right. And now it's like, oh yeah, I did that too. I had that done two weeks ago. Or, oh I gotta go get that done. I'm going next week, and you're like, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 50:44

Yeah, we're just dollar signs.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:47

That's sad in a way. And not sad about it though. Like, I like obviously I like it, so I do it. But it is, it's almost like another. How can I word this? It's like another way that we're now not free. To to go back to what you said. Like, we're now slaves to the mirror and social expectations. Yeah. Because now if you don't do anything to your face, now you're like, why do they look like that? And I've been like that. I mean, I have said that on this podcast. I think if you if you have the means, then you should do it. I'm obviously very I'm very into that. But I know it's because it improves my self-confidence. Right. So it's it's just deep.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

It's it's it is very deep, and it's funny because you know, you have the men that you're with, and they'll ask you, like, why do why do you do that? And it's like, you don't know what I really look like. Yeah, I know.

unknown 51:45

I know.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

They look at you and they go, Why would you do that? You're beautiful just the way you are, and you're thinking to yourself, That's because I do all this. I do all this, and you don't really know what I look like, so shut up.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

I know. It is it is interesting. Like I was going back looking at photos of even before I like had my lips injected, and it's yeah, it's kind of a weird, like I think, oh. But then back then I like thought I had nice lips. So I'm like, what is it's just weird. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

You look at yeah, you look back and you're like, oh, well, maybe maybe that looked good, but this looks better now. And I should have done it.

SPEAKER_01 52:30

I think it's because it just looks more modern now because everyone's doing it. I think have you seen that meme with the Mona Lisa throughout the years? Mm-hmm. And like the Mona Lisa then versus now, and she's got like plumped up lips, and she's and it's just funny because it's like oh yeah, that that is the norm right now. And I do, I have seen, I don't want to say people aren't getting people are definitely still getting their lips done and everything. But it's not, it's not as blown out. Um, people are opting for more natural looks, but it just looks different, it's a little more polished. Yeah. Um and I'm not even saying it's better because we were out at dinner last night, and it also has to do with the area, right? Wherever you go. So this was Hunt Valley, and it's in Maryland, if you're for the listener who's not from here, because obviously we've reached hundreds of thousands of people by now. Um everybody at the table was very, they all had shiny, shiny skin, no lashes, and no eye makeup. And not and they had very soft features, so it didn't look that strange. But then I started like looking around at all the other tables, and they all kind of had the same look. Everybody had little, like very minimal makeup, shiny, shiny skin, and then very soft eyes. And I I'm like, no, I don't like that, especially now that I have my lashes put back on. I'm like, oh my god, am I no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It depends on it depends on a lot of things, but I just thought it was very interesting that like everybody and and then I thought, huh, I stand out in a good way. Because I don't want to look like everybody. No and you shouldn't want to look like everybody either. You should just do what makes sense for your own for your own face.

SPEAKER_02 54:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:35

That's all.

SPEAKER_02 54:36

Yeah, I I would say that whole shine thing. Um it's a little too shiny these days. It's that glass face thing that is all on TikTok and it was it was bad last year there was a thing on it, and now it's back again, and it like nobody's face is meant to look like glass.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

I talked about this We have skin. Yes, on on my Instagram because I think it it's borderline unprofessional. Depending on like, if you're like a lawyer and you come in with like shiny glass skin, I'm gonna be like, you have no idea what you're talking about. You obviously prioritize the wrong thing. Like it's it's kind of like when you go to a hair salon and they have like rainbow-colored hair, they get away with it because they're there. Yeah, same with like a tattoo parlor and they got face tattoos. You take that elsewhere, and you're like, what? So, unless you're in the industry of facials and like what you do, like if you had super glass skin, I which you do, but not not distractingly so very nice skin. Um, but if you wanted to have that I can look at myself through your face, I would be like, Well, that makes sense. That's what Rachel does. Yeah, but seeing it like out in the wild, I don't think it's appropriate.

SPEAKER_02 55:57

I think a nice glow on everyone. To a certain extent. Um, I understand, you know, younger, most younger girls do not want to have a glow. The older you get, you want to have a little bit of a glow just because it gives more youthfulness. Yes. When you're young and your skin is very supple, it's not really necessary, and you don't see too many young, young girls with like a glow per se. No, unless it's just highlighter. Yeah, which definitely but as a teenager, like you're not looking at even teenagers or young 20s and seeing like they have a glow to their skin.

SPEAKER_01 56:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:31

As you get older, you will see that more in women. Okay. That's a normal thing to see, um, especially because they need to use more moisturizer on their face. So they might have a little bit more of that and need that because their skin is more dehydrated. But when it's distractingly shiny. When it's like, oh, and it almost looks like, did you put Vaseline on your face? Um, were you sweating that bad? Like, that's when I'm like, mmm, it's a problem.

SPEAKER_01 57:01

I don't like that. Well, that is what I was surrounded by last night. It was all everybody was dressed the same. They had like those stupid, like oversized striped polo dresses. It was just, it was like, mmm, yeah. So it was like everybody was like that. I just, I'm like, ugh, just get me out of here. Anyway. Well, he's probably had like all black on. I I had a um like a faux leather brown dress. Okay. I definitely like stood out in like a gothic kind of way. It's fine. It's fine. I'm proud of it. You did stand out. I did, I really did. Well, it's funny because I actually had a different dress on that I was gonna wear, and it was like a vibrant purple. Oh. And my child, I entered the room to see if she was ready, and she goes, Oh, oh wow. And I said, What? And she's like, You're it's just a little bright mom. I went, really? And and then my husband said the same thing. I was like, that is that is two in a row. I'm gonna change. So now I'm like, well, I guess I can't wear this. So I don't know. It was in my, you know, in my palette, but again, this is where it comes down to, yes, you can dress for your palette, but personality and style goes in there just a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 58:16

Anyway. All right, it's late. Yeah. What time is it?

SPEAKER_01 58:20

Um it's 1020 at night. That's what we do for you guys. Yeah. But you couldn't watch the movie during the day. No. I mean, it had to be a little bit evening.

SPEAKER_02 58:31

It just had to be enough. Are you getting scared yet? You okay? No. Are you? I feel okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

Well good. Yeah. I had to walk up to my car, you know, make sure there's no shadows following me.

SPEAKER_01 58:42

So I'll text you tonight and I'll be like, are you wolf? Anyway, if you haven't seen it, hopefully we've we helped you want to see it. I don't know. It is worth seeing. It's it's really something. Anyway, um, all right, we're gonna rock and roll. It was fun.

SPEAKER_00 58:59

This has been the Beauty Files. Case closed.