Childhood Revisited

The boys take a trip down memory lane and relive their favorite childhood movies rated PG-13 or under. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Hello, movie lovers. It's after midnight, and you're listening to Up All Night Cinema with Wade and Adrian on KNRR, not really radio. And now here are the boys.

SPEAKER_06 0:17

Caught fucking stealing. We we tried to watch it last night, but apparently the whole world is still watching Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_02 0:26

Possibly, yes.

SPEAKER_06 0:28

So we couldn't get past 8%. Like it started and it was really pixelated, and we got less than two minutes in and it kicked us out and we couldn't get it to buffer past 9%. So we watched something else on another streaming service, and we just finished it.

SPEAKER_04 0:46

Okay. So what do you think?

SPEAKER_06 0:48

I really enjoyed it, and Jen really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_04 0:51

Yeah, I knew you would. Um I had a blast with that movie. But like I had mentioned to you when we briefly spoke about it last time, in that interview with Austin Butler, he's talking about how this is Darren Aronofsky having fun, and you could totally tell he's having fun. But there's still some very serious undertones to the characters throughout the movie, which is very typical Aronofsky.

SPEAKER_06 1:14

Yeah, it's pretty dark.

SPEAKER_04 1:16

Yeah, it's pretty dark.

SPEAKER_06 1:18

It's pretty dark, but it is a comedy. It did work on all those levels. The casting was great.

SPEAKER_04 1:24

What do you think about uh Bad Bunny? He was pretty pretty great. He was great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:30

Um yeah, I I'm not a fan of his music necessarily.

SPEAKER_04 1:33

Yeah, it's hard to understand.

SPEAKER_06 1:35

But it's it's not even it's not even necessarily that I just don't like the the hip hop genre. I don't care what language they're speaking. So I I'm sure he's really talented, but it's not my it's not my genre, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:49

Yeah, no worries.

SPEAKER_06 1:50

But uh he he he was really good in the movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:54

Yeah, I agree. Uh what was your uh favorite part or sequence or what what was most memorable for you?

SPEAKER_06 2:01

Uh you know, that's a good question. Uh, you know, I I'm not a cat person, but I really like the cat.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

Yeah, yeah. It's a perfect side character.

SPEAKER_06 2:13

It was a perfect side character. He had his own little story going on.

SPEAKER_04 2:18

Mm-hmm. That was fun. Um did you expect what happened to Zoe Kravitz without giving up too much away?

SPEAKER_06 2:26

Uh, I feel like that's already given it away.

SPEAKER_04 2:28

Not really. Nobody knows if you haven't seen it what what exactly that entails.

SPEAKER_06 2:32

But no, I did not.

SPEAKER_04 2:34

I didn't either. That caught me by surprise.

SPEAKER_06 2:36

Yeah. Um a lot of things caught me by surprise in that movie. Um, I loved the annoying neighbor.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:44

He was great, always bitching about them, making noise, and hey, I'm hip and I'm cool, and they're like, You're not fucking cool.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Yeah, yeah, that was great.

SPEAKER_06 2:52

You're out here yelling at us about being loud at five o'clock in the morning. Shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_04 2:57

Yeah. I loved that movie. Um I probably had the best time with Vincent Di Anofro and Leaf Schreiber's characters. They were they were a lot of fun. They were a lot of fun, especially that whole scene when they go home and they're and they take Austin Butler home with them to meet the mom.

SPEAKER_06 3:14

Yeah, that was a good time. Um, I loved how he kept calling his mom. Like how Austin Butler kept calling his mom.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:22

And you're gonna see things on the news, and she's just worried about the giants and how they're doing. Yeah, that was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:32

I feel like the movie was set in 1998, and they made a very big point of that.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 3:39

Not just saying 1998, but literally showing the Twin Towers.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:45

And I feel like that whole thing was really just to legitimize the ending of the movie. That's a good point. Because there's no other reason in the movie really for that to be there.

SPEAKER_03 3:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:59

For it to be set in 1998. It could have just as easily been set now.

SPEAKER_03 4:03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 4:04

Except it would have been way harder for one character to get on an airplane toward the end of that movie.

SPEAKER_04 4:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:09

Post 9-11.

SPEAKER_04 4:11

No, that makes a lot of sense. Absolutely. I didn't think of that, but it's a really good observation that you just made. Yeah. Um, yeah, I really liked uh Matt Smith in it as well.

SPEAKER_06 4:25

Uh, he's he's always so good.

SPEAKER_04 4:27

Yeah, he was great. But I especially liked um Action Bronson and Griffin Dunn's interactions in the bar.

SPEAKER_06 4:34

Oh, they were they were a great time.

SPEAKER_04 4:36

Yeah, they were really good.

SPEAKER_06 4:38

That uh you know what blew my mind is how much Austin Butler hated his life at the beginning of that movie, and he seemed like he had it pretty dialed in.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:52

Like he had a pretty nice apartment. He he didn't live far from work, it seemed like, because he walked to work, he liked his boss, he had a hot girlfriend, you know. I'm just like, what is he complaining about?

SPEAKER_04 5:04

Well, I think what you notice in the movie is he's okay, he's complacent with his life, but ultimately he's he's drinking away his sorrows from his past, right?

SPEAKER_06 5:17

Yeah, he he never dealt with he never dealt with the car accident.

SPEAKER_04 5:22

And though now when he comes into the money and all this craziness, I think he sees a new opportunity for what life could potentially be. And I think he quickly realized the predicament that he's in. And as the movie just shit hits the fan throughout the whole movie, I think he I think he realizes how much he he misses that simple life because he can never go back to that life.

SPEAKER_06 5:47

Yeah, it's true. Throughout the whole movie, he just keeps saying, I want to go home. But he can't go back home. Too much, too much is different now.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:56

Now, if you liked Caught Stealing, which Jen and I did, I will tell you that Havoc with Tom Hardy was better.

SPEAKER_04 6:05

Yeah, that's the other one you watched.

SPEAKER_06 6:06

That is the other one I watched. That one was crazy. It was a lot like caught stealing, you know, with a lot of great actors in it and lots of movement. The story starts really small, but it blows out of proportion real quick, and the action in that movie was insane.

SPEAKER_04 6:26

I haven't I saw a trailer for it, and I just kind of forgot about it until you mentioned it.

SPEAKER_06 6:31

And well, it was a Netflix movie. That's my complaint with streaming.

SPEAKER_04 6:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:36

Is I forgot about it until we came across it.

SPEAKER_04 6:39

Yeah. And the only reason you came across it is because you signed up for Stranger Things, because you watched it.

SPEAKER_06 6:44

Yeah. But that's that's my problem with streaming, is it gets advertised like a couple weeks to a month before they put it on, and then once it goes on there, you never hear about it again.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:55

But Havoc was really kinetic and over the top and insane. It opens with an intense car chase, and you could tell a lot of it's done with CGI. But man, I was on the edge of my seat through portions of that movie.

SPEAKER_04 7:11

Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 7:12

And after I s after we watched it, I looked it up. You know who directed that movie? Havoc? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:18

No idea.

SPEAKER_06 7:19

Gareth Evans.

SPEAKER_04 7:21

That rings a bell, that name.

SPEAKER_06 7:23

He directed The Raid and The Raid Two Redemption.

SPEAKER_04 7:26

Oh, okay. Now those are some of the most intense action movies I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_06 7:33

But that's what I'm telling you. The action was the same. It was like break that pace. It was really in your face.

SPEAKER_04 7:39

That's great then. Because I mean, the Raid 2 is a great action movie, but the Raid 1 for me easily goes into like a top ten of most crazy action movies I've ever seen. Just like Yeah, but you have to put it in like a more of like a brutal type of action, you know, like a gory kind of action, I'd say, because there's just that movie's just so intense.

SPEAKER_06 8:04

Well, yeah. Yeah, and the Havoc was really gory as well.

SPEAKER_04 8:08

Okay, that makes sense. It it travels along the same lines with the with the director.

SPEAKER_06 8:14

Yeah, it was uh fighting, car chases, gun fights, and they were all crazy. Yeah, highly, highly recommend checking out Havoc.

SPEAKER_04 8:25

Yeah, I'll definitely uh add it to the list. There's a few things on the list, but I I'm in the same boat as you. I forgot about it until you mentioned it just a few days ago. And I was like, oh shoot, yeah, that's one of the Tom Hardy movies I haven't seen.

SPEAKER_06 8:39

Yeah. But last night, since we couldn't watch Caught Stealing, we wound up watching um Smoke and Aces.

SPEAKER_04 8:48

And I know I included that on one of my lists in a previous episode. It was one of our blockbuster lists. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:59

And I think I'd mentioned that I wanted to show that to Jen, and I hadn't got a I hadn't found the space for it. And she was into it.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_06 9:08

She was real into it. Um, at the end of the movie, when everything's coming out, you know, Ryan Reynolds is standing there and his boss is laying out everything that we, the audience, didn't know and what he didn't know. Jen was just sitting there with her mouth hanging open. She was just like, What? No idea. And the only time, that's only really the second time I've gotten a reaction like that out of a movie with her. The first time was watching Point Break.

SPEAKER_01 9:40

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 9:41

I I wasn't sure if she was into that. Like she wasn't complaining or anything. She doesn't usually. But we're sitting there watching it, and towards the end, there's the scene on the plane where Patrick Swayze jumps out and there's no parachutes left, and Kian Reeves jumps out of the plane anyway.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 9:59

And Jen just, oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 10:02

Yeah. So that's the second time now I've gotten a really strong reaction out of Jen during a movie that I remember.

SPEAKER_04 10:10

That's very cool. Yeah. Smoking Aces is one of those highly underrated action movies that's come out in the 21st century. That's just great.

SPEAKER_06 10:22

And like I told her at the time, or what I told her watching the movie was at the time Smoking Aces came out, I kind of assumed that we were kind of moving in that direction. It really felt like action movies were going that way where they were getting really stylized and kind of over the top and uh frantic. And you know, we had Taken a couple years later. We had um From Paris with Love a couple years after that.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 10:50

But I feel like by the time we got to From Paris with Love, because that was a couple years after Iron Man, that genre was just kind of dead.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

Yeah, I mean the s Marvel cinematic universe kind of really, you know, I think we can look back throughout history of cinema and maybe define movies that changed the industry. I Iron Man is the one that changed the industry, you know, on its head when it came out.

SPEAKER_06 11:19

But it was a it was a sort of slow progression.

SPEAKER_04 11:23

Yes, it was. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 11:24

I would I would say it didn't fully change until around the time Avengers came out, the first Avengers movie.

SPEAKER_04 11:31

I would agree. I would agree. The when the Avengers came out, that I think completely rewrote the box office with what it did for cinema. And granted, the Avengers is a great movie, but yeah, it it everything changed after that.

SPEAKER_06 11:47

Yeah, after 2008, there was this slow C change where you started seeing things like From Paris with Love, which should have been a much bigger success, start to you know disappear and not be that cool.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:01

And then by the time Avengers came out, that's pretty much anything anyone was making or looking to make. They were like, oh no, I need the IP.

SPEAKER_04 12:10

Yeah, and not only that, I mean, you had everybody competing for that in the box office. Yeah. You had Sony going at it, right? They came back on board that you had Fox still going at it. I mean, you know, but ultimately Marvel won out with and when Disney bought them, it was like unlimited funds to do this now. And that's when you start they started churning out, you know, the cinematic universe real quickly.

SPEAKER_06 12:35

Yeah, and nobody was able to catch them after that. And no, instead of trying to play a different game than what they were playing, they all tried to copy it and they're still trying to copy it. Yeah, it's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:48

But speaking of big fancy IP, I heard you saw a movie this weekend.

SPEAKER_04 12:54

I saw a few this week. So, um, and and and I'm gonna touch on something real quick before I share what I saw.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:03

So I've mentioned in the past I have the AMC A-list pass, right? It's 25 bucks a month.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:10

You can watch up to four movies a week. This week I saw three movies.

SPEAKER_06 13:14

That's not bad. I'm I wish I had that kind of time.

SPEAKER_04 13:18

Yeah. So I saw Eternity. Uh-huh. I saw Zootopia 2 with my nephew, and I saw Wicked for Good with uh some other family members. And um I really enjoyed all three of them, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_06 13:35

I think Eternity Which one was the best one?

SPEAKER_04 13:38

That's tough.

SPEAKER_06 13:39

You know, like I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you about what should or shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:44

The fact the fact that you saw three movies this week and you can't rank them at all, that's pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 13:51

Yeah, it was it was fun. You know, Zootopia, it opened with half a billion dollars.

SPEAKER_06 13:58

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04 13:58

Yeah, I saw that. That's crazy. But regardless, I really like I really liked the first Zootopia. I think it's one of the better animated movies that has come out in recent years. It's been a while since the first one came out, but Zootopia 2 kind of opens it up a little further. And there's a lot of underlying really good conversation with those movies um in regards to like accepting people um and you know the different type of animal species and things like that. So I think they do a good job at communicating what they want to communicate with, accepting everyone in that sense. I mean, it's it's funny, it's action-packed. I always love the scenes with the sloth.

SPEAKER_06 14:42

He he seemed like the popular character when the first one came out.

SPEAKER_04 14:45

Oh, it's so good. That's one of the my favorite animated sequences of any movie, I think, with the sloth from Zoo from the first Zoopio. But yeah, Zotopia 2 was was pretty fun. Um Wicked for Good was very good. It's different than the first one. There's not as much story building and character development as there was in the first one for obvious reasons, because it's set in the stage. But number two was much more suspenseful, a lot more action. I don't feel like there was as much music as the first one, although there is a lot. I feel they they fit it in a little better into the story. Okay. Um, I really loved Jeff Goldblum. I think anytime I get to see Jeff Goldblum, he's he's great on camera.

SPEAKER_06 15:31

I would definitely agree with that.

SPEAKER_04 15:33

And um, I think he does a great job as the wizard, or I you should say the imposter wizard. Um, and uh yeah, I think it I think it was really fun.

SPEAKER_06 15:44

Um now I do the the one criticism I've seen thrown around online, and I was hoping you could comment and clear it up for me. They said this movie doesn't know what to do with Dorothy.

SPEAKER_04 15:58

I see why people would say that because you never see her face.

SPEAKER_06 16:05

Yeah. Which and which also, to be fair, I'm kind of okay with because you know, watching some some of these movies like Rogue One, where they're like, Oh, we gotta put Carrie Fisher in there for some reason.

SPEAKER_04 16:18

Yeah, you don't Dorothy is not essential to the story. Yeah. She plays her role as it relates to, you know, the Wicked Witch, but aside from that, it's not ultimately essential. And I think they didn't want to take away from their actual story by giving Dorothy more time or putting a face to Dorothy. And I think just a lot of people probably were unhappy or unsure about that because of the Wizard of Oz or fans of The Wizard of Oz, right? They might have been expecting more because quite frankly, she's she only has minutes on screen in here and there, you know, in the second in the second half of the movie, which I think is okay.

SPEAKER_06 17:02

I like her she has her own movie.

SPEAKER_04 17:04

Exactly. She's not even I wouldn't even consider her like a really strong side character in Wicked for Good. She's just there to fill some of the plot to wrap up the story. I think they do a really good job with the interactions between the animals and the humans. Um I think it's a beautiful looking movie. Uh the CGI and the parts that it is look great. Um and you know, it's hard not to appreciate, you know, the actors and actresses of Wicked. Um you realize that like Ariana Grande, if you didn't already know, she's fantastic in both movies. I think that I mean she is really something, and she is a fantastic artist in terms of her her ability to sing. It's like if you if you don't know, she she's one of the best in terms of her her voice. And um it's really on display with in a musical because she can she goes everywhere with her voice, and it's it's really it's really cool to see. Same with those Cynthia Arriva, she's she's really good as the wicked witch.

SPEAKER_06 18:17

Um I like I heard a rumor today, or not today, I heard it a couple days ago, where they're talking to her supposedly about playing Storm and the X-Men.

SPEAKER_04 18:26

I think she would kill Storm and the X-Men.

SPEAKER_06 18:29

I think it's hard to get an actress for that part.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

I agree, but I think she would she would be great.

SPEAKER_06 18:35

I think she'd be great. I think one of the biggest misfires of the original X-Men series was casting Halle Berry for that part.

SPEAKER_04 18:45

I think she was too big for that part.

SPEAKER_06 18:47

Yeah, like she was really not that big of a star when she got cast the first time around. Like she was still kind of up and coming, but you knew it was gonna happen for her at some point.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:58

And I think the audience knew that was gonna happen, so it just felt weird, but she did not fit that part.

SPEAKER_04 19:04

No. And it's not for it's not that she was bad in the movie or she repr misrepresented Storm in whatever way. She just didn't l look the part. That's really what it was, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_06 19:15

Yeah, I thought that the girl who played young Storm when they did um X-Men Apocalypse, uh-huh, I thought she fit the part fine, but uh you know, there were issues with that movie, of course. But I do think uh Cynthia Riva would be pretty good for Storm.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

Yeah, I think that's a a really good potential casting if it's true.

SPEAKER_06 19:38

If it's true, yes.

SPEAKER_04 19:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:40

Now, before we get too far off topic, we we made a we made a pact last week, bro.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

We did.

SPEAKER_06 19:48

We did.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

So man.

SPEAKER_06 19:50

Did did you watch Fantastic Planet? I did. And what'd you think? I don't know how I feel about that movie. It's wild, man.

SPEAKER_04 20:00

It's wild.

SPEAKER_06 20:02

The animation was fantastic in that movie.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

It really is for the time it came out. It it's really impressive. Um the story is actually really intense.

SPEAKER_06 20:13

And it's really deep, a lot of big, big sci-fi ideas.

SPEAKER_04 20:18

Absolutely. This idea of humans being prisoners, um pets, essentially. Pets, yeah. Um, these extraterrestrial species that are larger than life, that are way smarter than humans. There's this idea of like, you know, quality of life, and but also like this dynamic of like humans are essentially limited in their knowledge purposely to always be subservient to the alien race. Uh, it was it's a crazy movie. Um, I think it's it's definitely an adult animated film. Oh, absolutely. You it's not a movie you show to kids whatsoever.

SPEAKER_06 21:02

Um my dad did, however, show that movie to us when we were young.

SPEAKER_04 21:07

Yeah. I I I enjoyed the narration because I think without the narration, you would be entirely lost in following a little bit. Um, and so I think at an hour and 12 minutes, it's a pretty solid runtime because I don't know how much more you could do with the story if you were to fill in the gaps of time between when Tur is like a baby and and then is adolescence and then adulthood. You know, I I I don't know how much you could really fill with that story. Probably a lot, but I liked the that runtime and how they they moved through the story pretty well. I agree. Um did they ever make a like a live action or anything for that movie?

SPEAKER_06 21:55

No. Not not that I'm aware of, probably because it'd be too expensive. Probably.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

Probably. Um, but I I mean, I I think of that movie and I think of a guy like James Cameron, and I'm like, man, that would like fit a perfect James Cameron movie.

SPEAKER_06 22:09

I mean, now that you mention it, don't the Navi look a hell of a lot like the aliens from that movie?

SPEAKER_04 22:17

They do. They do, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 22:20

So you have that. But what I like about that movie, like you said, there's some narration, but there's very little dialogue.

SPEAKER_04 22:26

Yeah, there's there's very little. So it leaves a very visual movie. It's a very visual movie, and I think that's why the animations or the the sequences, especially in the animations, when they focus on the individual characters and their facial expressions and things like that. I think those are really important to the film.

SPEAKER_06 22:47

So since you were gonna watch that, I watched The Ghosts in the Shell.

SPEAKER_04 22:52

And you probably have to watch it another five times to understand what the hell's going on.

SPEAKER_06 22:56

I feel like that movie demands repeat watches to understand the story.

SPEAKER_04 23:02

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_06 23:03

Because I also feel like the story changed like nine times.

SPEAKER_04 23:07

Yeah, there's a lot going on in Ghosts in the Shell.

SPEAKER_06 23:10

There's a lot going on, there's a lot of expository dialogue, and all of it's important, it seems. All of it, every word is important, yeah. And there was a lot of unnecessary nudity in that movie, like way unnecessary.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

Yeah, there was, and that I think that's a good caution for people who aren't used to seeing nudity in general, but also nudity animated. It's it's a little different. And yeah, I think that's a really good caution. I think though, there's an aspect of that that's like dehumanized, right? It's so the movie, it seems like it's so normal, or that like the value of the human body, or just I don't know, it's hard for me to try to explain what I'm trying to say, but it seems like that's purposely done to fit the the plot or what's going on in the movie to where like there's less of a value placed on the the human in general, because most people or a you know are all human cyborgs essentially.

SPEAKER_06 24:17

Yeah, I I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Um, I would love to see that movie, but with the original Japanese audio and English subtitles.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:30

I feel like where I got lost in the movie was obviously it was dubbed in English. And number one, the main character, I did not like the actress doing her voice. I didn't think it fit.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:45

Uh number two, like I said, there was a lot of expository dialogue, and I feel like it was written by the same guy who wrote the narration for the original release of Blade Runner. You know, like it was not great. And I feel like if I was able to watch that movie translated from Japanese with English subtitles, I think I would understand the movie better.

SPEAKER_03 25:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:08

Cause as of right now, I have no idea what the fuck happened at the end of that movie or even what the overall point of it was.

SPEAKER_04 25:17

No, I think that's that's that's pretty fair.

SPEAKER_06 25:21

Yeah, it just it just seemed like like I understood who the puppet master was.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 25:27

I understood where he came from.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 25:30

I understood why certain government factions wanted him back, and I understood what he was doing up till the end. Like the last 15 minutes, I didn't understand what he wanted anymore or how we got where we got.

SPEAKER_04 25:44

Yeah, yeah. I think that's definitely one of the tougher sequences to understand. Because we know obviously that the pupper master was created, right?

SPEAKER_06 25:56

Yes, and he had a ghost, which was basically a soul.

SPEAKER_04 26:01

Correct. And but you know, he uh he wants to feel everything that it means to be human.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 26:10

And he I think uh to some degree hates his current state of being. And ultimately that's why he merges with uh Kusanagi right towards the end of the movie for some reason. Now that part I don't fully understand.

SPEAKER_06 26:27

Yeah. Because it doesn't track with what he was trying to do. Like merging with another cyborg is not the answer to his product.

SPEAKER_04 26:36

And maybe because of Kusanagi's interests, because obviously, without giving too much away, like she had a main goal at the start of the movie, right? Something that she needed to do with finding the puppet master. But over time, her curiosity gets the best of her, right? Or it. And I think the puppet master in some way or another realizes this. And maybe like their merging is what ultimately fulfills both entities' deepest desires. So maybe the puppet master thought that like by merging with Kusanagi it would bring more fulfillment to his existence of wanting to feel more human or wanting to feel mortality. I don't I don't know. That's just like, you know, like I said, that's why I started off. Like, it's a movie you you probably have to watch a few more times, and you may not even understand it after watching it a few more times.

SPEAKER_06 27:33

Which also was my next point, which you said not to ruin anything for anybody, but I feel like we could do a whole two hours on just this movie. Oh, yeah, until until beginning to end what happens, yeah, and you still wouldn't be spoiling the movie.

SPEAKER_04 27:49

No, no, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_06 27:50

Because somebody might be listening to this right now and be like, these two guys are fucking idiots. This movie means this, and this is what it's about exactly. And but but the animation was fantastic.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

It oh yeah, it's one of the best animated movies of all time for a reason. It's it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_06 28:08

Yeah, I I wouldn't say the animation was better than Fantastic Planet, but there were scenes in the movie where they're showing the city, and I wasn't sure if some of that was hand-drawn animation or literal pictures of a cityscape.

SPEAKER_04 28:26

Yeah, yeah. It's really brilliant. And you know, I think it's it's it's the movie itself and the the story and the plot is very pertinent to what we're trajecting into with AI right now.

SPEAKER_06 28:42

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 28:43

Uh, because there's this whole idea of like importing your consciousness to cyborgs or to artificial intelligence or designed bodies. Yet essentially you also have the other side of the coin, which is the puppet master who essentially was created to hack these systems, right? And to uh, you know, backdoor government and societal programs and things like that. And so it brings up a lot of really critical, like existential questions that I think you can ask about what is real, what are emotions, are emotions real if they are created, you know, outside of the human experience, like all these different things that I think Ghost in a Shell is so deep. And I and like you said, you could spend hours talking about the different themes within the movie.

SPEAKER_06 29:35

Yeah, it's it's true. And uh I think when that movie came out in what the early 90s? I think it was like 95 or something like that. Oh, mid 90s.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 29:45

It it was just science fiction.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_06 29:48

And and today it's becoming less science fiction.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 29:54

By the by the time you and I in our 60s, it probably won't even be classified as science fiction anymore.

SPEAKER_04 29:59

No, and the same goes with Blade Runner, you know, when that came out in the 80s, it was before its time. And to now it's it's it looks like it's it's gonna be real one day.

SPEAKER_06 30:11

Well, we are up all night cinema. I'm Wade. This is Adrian. Say hello, Adrian.

SPEAKER_04 30:18

Hello, Adrian.

SPEAKER_06 30:19

So, not to get off topic, but we should probably get to the topic.

SPEAKER_04 30:23

Yes. But before we start, one thing I was really bummed out about is that no theaters in my area were showing Die My Love, because that was the movie I really wanted to see with my time off.

SPEAKER_06 30:37

Yeah, I need I haven't checked. I really wanted to go see that, and we wound up seeing uh Keeper with Tatiana Mezzlani, the new uh horror movie from Osgood Perkins, which was pretty good. I heard amazing. I heard she's good in it. She's good in everything always. I'm always impressed with Tatiana Mezzlani. I I remember when she was just the weird girl in uh ginger snaps too, and now you know she's an Emmy winner. And yeah, you know, so yeah, it it was a good movie, but yeah, Die My Love was one that kind of escaped me. And uh, you know, the moment it's available on streaming, I will check it out because that was one I really wanted to catch.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Me too.

SPEAKER_06 31:16

Because I really like Jennifer Lawrence, I really like Robert Pattinson, I really like Lynn Ramsey.

SPEAKER_04 31:22

Me too.

SPEAKER_06 31:23

So that's one I'll check out.

SPEAKER_04 31:25

Okay, sir.

SPEAKER_06 31:26

All right. So the topic for this week, this is the one that I've put off a couple weeks.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:32

Because I've I've had it, and then every time I come up with something more interesting, which actually worked out because I was able to refine my list a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 31:41

Goodness.

SPEAKER_06 31:42

And it's such a silly topic, and you're gonna hear it and go, refine my list, but anyway. So, what I'm looking for, this is what I'm looking for from you. I want to know five movies that you have very fond memories of from when you were eight to fifteen. You know, like wow, strong childhood movies.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 32:05

You remember when we were kids, we used to throw a movie in and we watch it 10, 15, 20, 30 times.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:11

Like I remember watching Die Hard on basically an endless loop when we got that on VHS back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 32:18

But what I'm looking for, I'm not looking for diehard. Okay, I'm looking for PG PG 13 movies. Okay. I got my first one. Well then why don't you go ahead then?

SPEAKER_04 32:30

It's a Disney Channel movie.

SPEAKER_06 32:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 32:33

Brink.

SPEAKER_06 32:34

I have no idea what this is.

SPEAKER_04 32:37

Yeah. Brink. Brink was still to this day a classic. I mean, it it it's about it's a skating movie.

SPEAKER_06 32:46

That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah, rink, brand.

SPEAKER_04 32:49

Yeah, yeah. And um, so it takes place with a group of kids. They're kind of like the outcasts of the movie, and they skate for fun. They just love to skate. And and then you have these other kids, group of kids, that they're like sponsored skaters, and they think they're hip and they're cool and all these things, right? The main character of the outcast group, played by Eric von Dieten, his family falls on hard times.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 33:23

And so he secretly joins the paid sponsorship skater group because he needs money, because they have an injury, so he joins their team, and eventually he gets caught with his friends and they disown him. And so the rest of the movie is him trying to, you know, repair that relationship. And the end of the movie turns into this awesome skate competition where it's four against four, and that's essentially the end of the movie, is him redeeming himself with his true group of friends against these assholes that think they're better because they're paid and sponsored, and they have all the cool gear and the logos and all this stuff, the better equipment and all these things. Yeah, but I used to watch that movie incessantly. It was always on the TV.

SPEAKER_06 34:18

And are you able to watch this movie now, do you think, or is it just like lost to time because it was a Disney Channel movie?

SPEAKER_04 34:25

I probably watched it like a month and a half ago with my nephew, actually. As we were going through old Disney Channel movies. Oh, there you go then. Since they're available on Disney Plus now.

SPEAKER_06 34:37

Oh, yeah. I didn't think about that.

SPEAKER_04 34:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:40

Yeah, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:42

So my first movie, like, we didn't have Disney Channel when we were a kid, really. Like at my house. Like my cousin had it, we'd watch it sometimes, but you know, I never really watched those.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:54

Um, do I need to say Batman though? I mean, you don't have to, but I I feel like we've talked a lot about Batman. Uh-huh. But just a quick aside before I mention my first one. But when I was a kid in 1988, that's right. 1988, I was a kid. But we really only had access to the Adam West show in reruns, and we had this cartoon called The Super Friends. It was really bright and sunny and action-packed. And so Michael Keaton's 1989 Batman movie was completely mind-blowing for me. So that should be my number one. I want that said. Everyone needs to know. But I I'm going to put my number one as what I believe and I've seen. So I could be wrong about this, so don't take this as gospel. But I'm pretty sure this was the thing that Batman ripped off in the first place.

SPEAKER_03 35:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 35:54

Which was The Shadow. Oh. Have you ever seen The Shadow, sir?

SPEAKER_04 35:59

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 36:00

So The Shadow was a radio show in the 20s and 30s.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 36:05

And they tried to make it a movie for a long time. They could never make it a movie. After Batman hit it big in 89, everybody wanted to make, you know, The Shadow for some reason. Sam Raimi tried to do The Shadow when it got to Universal. And it was already in development, so he didn't get to do it. Uh but The Shadow came out in 1994. It starred Alec Baldwin. And he was he was in um China, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 36:35

And he was a he was a warlord. He had somehow risen to power in the opium fields in China somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 36:42

Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 36:43

And um at the beginning of the movie, he gets kidnapped by this monk.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 36:49

And this monk teaches him how to cloud people's minds.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 36:55

So it's like a psychic perception power that he gives him. And so Alec Baldwin perfects this and he goes to New York and fights crime as the shadow.

SPEAKER_04 37:06

Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 37:07

So he could cloud your mind so you can't see him. So he's like a ghost, like that voice in your ear, like telling you, you know, oh, I know what you did. Because he's got eyes everywhere, because he saves people and then basically makes them underground agents. So everybody will tell him, hey, there's a hit going on, or there's something wild going on over here. So he knows everything because he's everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 37:31

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_06 37:31

But he's just some rich playboy.

SPEAKER_04 37:34

It definitely sounds like Batman.

SPEAKER_06 37:36

It sounds a lot like Batman, and I'm pretty sure this show, I would have to look. I did I should have, I didn't look it up, but I'm pretty sure the show predates the Batman comics.

SPEAKER_04 37:48

Gotcha. Which would be pretty interesting if it does.

SPEAKER_06 37:51

Which would be pretty interesting if it does. But the movie kind of flopped at the time because it looked like a ripoff of Batman. So especially because Alec Baldwin could easily have played Batman at some point. No big deal. But um the movie, the the main antagonist of the movie is actually the last living descendant of Genghis Khan. What? And he has also perfected the ability to cloud men's minds. And he sees Alec Baldwin's an idol because of what he did when he was still a warlord in China.

SPEAKER_04 38:24

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_06 38:25

So at first they try he tries to team up with him, but Alec Baldwin doesn't want any part of it. And so they decide to go to war against each other. But the problem is that Genghis Khan's Last Living Descendant is so much better with his powers than Alec Baldwin is with his. And it's kind of cheesy.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

Sounds epic.

SPEAKER_06 38:45

It's pretty cool. It's set in the 30s, so it's, you know, period specific. Ian McKellen plays an absent-minded professor building like a hydrogen bomb of some kind. You know, like before Ian McKellen was anybody outside of Broadway or the theater.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:05

And it it's it's a really fun movie. It's one of those comic book comic strip movies from the 90s where they had a lot more uh character and they were trying to be cool. Tim Curry plays a villain in the movie. Ooh. He he's not the main villain, of course, but he's he's still pretty fun.

SPEAKER_03 39:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:25

They have they have a great scene in the movie where Alec Baldwin and the villain shoot a gun at each other, and it's one of those old pistols that only shoot one bullet.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 39:35

And they shoot at each other the single shots, and they both shoot at each other, and the bullets collide and flatten each other. And there's this moment like they both look at each other like, did that really just happen? It's it's a silly movie, but when I was 13 or however old I was when that movie came out, that was my shit. And I just watched it about a year or two ago, and it's quite silly, but it was still a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03 40:01

Nice.

SPEAKER_06 40:02

What about you? You got a second choice?

SPEAKER_04 40:04

Uh yeah, I do actually.

SPEAKER_06 40:06

Fantastic. I I was afraid this one was gonna be tough for some reason.

SPEAKER_04 40:10

No, I mean they may end up all being Disney movies, but hey, we're here, so let's do it.

SPEAKER_06 40:16

I I won't know what they are, but yeah, let's talk about.

SPEAKER_04 40:18

Is that oh yeah, you will. Maybe. But yeah, maybe. Uh the second one for me is the big green.

SPEAKER_06 40:24

Oh, wait, wait, wait. That's the it's a soccer movie, right?

SPEAKER_04 40:28

Yeah, it's a soccer movie. Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_06 40:30

I'm I'm not sure if I ever saw it. I remember the box art.

SPEAKER_04 40:34

It is so good. So essentially, this teacher from England, you know, is part of this exchange program, and she goes to teach in this small town in Texas, and it's really small, like one sheriff. The sheriff is um Steve Gutenberg.

SPEAKER_06 40:51

Oh man, that's when you know you're in a small town.

SPEAKER_04 40:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:55

When Steve Gutenberg's the sheriff, you're in a small fucking town.

SPEAKER_04 40:58

Yeah, he he plays sheriff Tom Palmer, and um, and so essentially she wants to start a soccer team, right? And so she starts a soccer team with all these random kids from this small school, and they have like no no equipment, no nothing, and their first scrimmage game is against this highly organized, like the best team in the whole area, and the coach is um Jay Sanders.

SPEAKER_06 41:30

Jay Sanders, remind me Jay Jay Sanders.

SPEAKER_04 41:34

Yeah, uh he's he's done um what uh what has he done? He's in Kiss the Girls. Yes. He's in um I think he's in Along Came a Spider, which are ironically two Morgan Freeman movies.

SPEAKER_06 41:49

Well, the those were um that was Along Came a Spider was a sequel.

SPEAKER_04 41:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:53

That was the first book, and Kiss the Girls was the second book.

SPEAKER_04 41:57

Mm-hmm. See, I didn't know that. I just okay.

SPEAKER_06 42:00

But Along Came Spider was a second movie for some reason.

SPEAKER_04 42:02

Yeah. If you see his face, you would you would know.

SPEAKER_06 42:05

Yeah, I know I know who he is. He he was in uh he was in a bunch of stuff. I like him a lot. Yeah. Good character actor.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

Yeah, it also has uh John Terry. Uh he's been in some other things. Um but his face is pretty recognizable uh in terms of uh or maybe it's just because I watched so many damn big greens that it's like, oh yeah, that guy's face is recognizable to me.

SPEAKER_06 42:29

Are we talking about the little short fat guy?

SPEAKER_04 42:32

No, no. That is um, what's his name? That's the kid from the sand lot, right? There's a few kids from the sandlot in this movie. You're talking about Patrick Renna.

SPEAKER_06 42:41

Yes, that's what is he in this movie?

SPEAKER_04 42:43

Yes, he is. He plays the goalie, the scared shitless goalie.

SPEAKER_06 42:46

Okay, so he was the box. He was the one on the box.

SPEAKER_04 42:50

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 42:51

So Patrick Rennes' character, they get him to play goalie, and he's scared shitless of being goalie. So every time like an enemy approaches him, the enemy turns into this greater than life character. So like one time he'll be like a knight in armor. Oh shit. Or another time he'll be like, you know, another like prominent, like scary figure. So he gets scared shitless in goal, and they score on him every time because he panics and he stays still essentially or runs away. Um, so essentially they play this team, they get slaughtered, and then this Hispanic kid shows up. Okay, yeah. At the school, and he's like out of nowhere. He's the best. He's the best. And so they start getting organized and playing all these games and they're winning. And towards the end, when they gotta go to the finals with this same team, they pull a little trick and they get the mom and this kid in trouble, like almost like they they're gonna get like, you know, deported or they get like, you know, caught up or something. And so they start the game without him, and then he shows up uh huh, and it's just this awesome oh, like Our spirits are renewed and they go like toe-to-toe, and uh they go to penalty kicks.

SPEAKER_01 44:05

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:06

And ultimately the big green end up winning in penalty kicks. But Patrick Rennes' character finds his inner strength and turns into this like jousting, awesome, like armored character, and he faces off with now he's scaring the other guys from scoring. So it it's it's pretty fun. But that's a classic for me. I mean, I grew up, I mean, even to this day, I love soccer. Uh, I've played it all my life, I've watched it all my life, and that movie was on 24-7 for me, honestly.

SPEAKER_06 44:35

Now, I I I didn't see your movie, The Big Green.

SPEAKER_04 44:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 44:39

But but when I was when I was about when I was that age when about when that movie was coming out, there was another soccer movie aimed at kids that came out. Do you know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_04 44:49

I don't know. I mean, maybe if you mention it, I'm gonna be like, oh yeah, for sure, but I I can't think of it off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_06 44:56

It was called The Ladybugs with Rodney Dangerfield. The Ladybugs? So Rodney Dangerfield, I forget why, you know, some silly some for some silly reason, there was always a silly reason why somebody who had no business coaching this team was coaching the team.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 45:13

And it was a girls' soccer team. And they weren't really that good, and he didn't really know what he was doing. So what he did, his ingenious move to become the big winning team, is he dressed his stepson up in a wig.

SPEAKER_04 45:28

So it's kind of it's like it's like that um other movie that came out. Maybe it was a remake with um Amanda Bynes, but she dresses as a male.

SPEAKER_06 45:39

Yeah, no, it was the same concept. Yeah, it's I don't think it's a remake. It was just like we're gonna make ladybugs, but she's a she's a girl. Correct, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's not an original concept, but you know.

SPEAKER_04 45:50

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 45:50

Yeah, that's that was the soccer movie we watched all the time when we were kids because my dad loved Rodney.

SPEAKER_04 45:56

Yeah. Oh, Rodney's great, man. He's he's classic.

SPEAKER_06 45:58

Oh, he's great. I'm a big easy money guy.

SPEAKER_04 46:01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 46:02

Love me some easy money.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 46:04

So are you ready for my number two?

SPEAKER_03 46:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 46:07

So my number two was another movie that I was just over the moon for before I even saw it. It's one of those movies where they were hyping it all up. You know, McDonald's had like some tie-in games. So we go to McDonald's all the time to get the cups. You know, they had like the collector's cups, those plastic bullshits that would fade in the dishwasher after like 12 pieces. I had a bunch of the toys. It was crazy. It was a comic strip, another comic strip from the 30s, because that's what they were making when we were kids.

SPEAKER_04 46:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 46:41

It was called Dick Tracy.

SPEAKER_04 46:43

Oh, yeah, Dick Tracy was great, man.

SPEAKER_06 46:46

That's a great movie, dude.

SPEAKER_04 46:47

Yeah, Dick Tracy is fantastic.

SPEAKER_06 46:49

So wild. Like the the actors who are in that movie under heavy makeup.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 46:56

Dustin Hoffman, I think, one of the biggest actors in the world at the time.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:00

Uh, he had just won an Oscar for Rain Man like two or three years before this.

SPEAKER_04 47:05

That's right.

SPEAKER_06 47:06

And he's got three or four scenes in the movie where he plays mumbles.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 47:11

Nobody can understand a fucking word he's saying because he just mumbles the whole time. Fucking wild.

SPEAKER_04 47:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:18

And then it had Madonna in it.

SPEAKER_04 47:20

Yeah, that's a crazy cast.

SPEAKER_06 47:22

It's a crazy cast. Al Pacino got an Oscar nomination for that. What? Al Pacino was up for best supporting actor for that.

SPEAKER_04 47:30

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 47:31

Or playing the villain. Yeah, wild. Wow. And that movie is also my favorite example of how different movies were back then to how they are now.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 47:45

Because I watched that movie with um Jen a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_04 47:50

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 47:50

Because I had seen it on, like I hadn't seen it in years.

SPEAKER_04 47:53

It's probably on Tubi.

SPEAKER_06 47:55

I'm sure it's on Tubi. Like, everybody take a look. It's probably on Tubi. It's it's like a cops and robbers movie set in the 30s, and everyone's wearing big, colorful clothes. The hero wears this god-awful yellow trench coat and fedora. But um, I watched it on uh American movie classics one time. Like, oh, they're gonna have Dick Tracy on, I'll check this out. I haven't seen it in like 10, 15 years. And I was surprised that it really held up and the story was really good.

SPEAKER_04 48:24

Dick Tracy holds up, man. That was it, it does. That's a great movie.

SPEAKER_06 48:29

But not 20 minutes into that movie, they kill a character, not just kill a character, like they put him in a box, fill it with cement, and drop it in the ocean. They would never do that in a PG-rated movie targeted at kids now.

SPEAKER_02 48:44

No, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_06 48:46

And then as Jen pointed out, because there's this whole subplot in the movie where there's this weird animal attraction between Warren Beatty, who's the hero, and Madonna, who's the nightclub singer, who's kind of stuck between him and this mob boss. And she is obviously attracted to him and puts out all the stops to get him. And he's obviously attracted to her, but he's more interested in what kind of evidence she could give him to catch Al Pacino.

SPEAKER_01 49:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:16

But they have this scene where it's the first time they meet, he arrests Al Pacino and he talks to her in the back room, and she had just got done singing, so she's wearing, you know, comfy clothes like a nightgown.

SPEAKER_03 49:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:29

And we're sitting here watching this movie, and Jen's like, because I said something like, they could never make a movie like this now for kids. And she's like, Well, no, you could see her nipples through the dress. And I was like, No, you can't. And the next shot, I was like, Holy shit, you could totally see her nipples in the dress. Oh my god. There was no fucking way that would ever get made for kids now.

SPEAKER_04 49:52

No, and to be honest with you, that's the the vast difference in like you said, movies from that decade to now. There's no way they're making that movie now.

SPEAKER_06 50:04

The Goonies cursed. Yeah. Just like the kids do on Stranger Things now.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 50:10

But they wouldn't put that in a PG movie now. No way.

SPEAKER_01 50:14

Nope.

SPEAKER_06 50:14

Because honestly, if Stranger Things was a was a movie, that'd be PG 13 at least.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

Mm-hmm. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 50:21

So yeah, uh, Dick Tracy was a big one for me when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_04 50:24

Yeah, that's fun.

SPEAKER_06 50:25

I fucking love that shit. It's still a lot of fun today.

SPEAKER_04 50:28

You know, and this is this is fun because we see our different upbringings in our movies.

SPEAKER_06 50:36

Yes. And that was my thought process, because we both like I'm a little older than you, so like seeing what was big for you, but also like our different upbringings, right?

SPEAKER_04 50:48

So like I have two movies that won't be Disney movies or like um, you know, young kids or kids' movies, but it's a a whole different dynamic of like your upbringing and what you got to watch with what like I would be watching because I had a younger sister, but sometimes I'd watch more serious movies with my dad. Same when when my sister wasn't around or things like that, but um, or when we would go to the theaters, you know, like uh I that's when I would get to see like the good movies, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 51:19

Mm-hmm. Well before you move on, I just want to say number one, my my dad took us to see both The Shadow and Dick Tracy.

SPEAKER_03 51:27

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 51:28

Actually, my aunt took us to see Dick Tracy. And she was a very religious person, and it was a PG-rated Disney movie. I don't know if I mentioned that. Dick Tracy was a Disney film.

SPEAKER_04 51:40

I don't know how that ends up.

SPEAKER_06 51:42

They they have gunfights in the streets, like with Tommy guns.

SPEAKER_04 51:47

Yeah, I don't I don't understand that one at all.

SPEAKER_06 51:51

Yeah. There there's a whole seduction scene where Madonna is just crawling along a table.

SPEAKER_01 51:57

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 51:58

And, you know, I don't know how that got past the sensor in 1990 or whatever it was. It was 89 or 90.

SPEAKER_04 52:06

Yeah, I don't I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_06 52:08

So what what was your what was your third pick?

SPEAKER_04 52:11

Oh, this is an easy one for me. My third pick is the original Nin uh Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Fuck yes. From 1990. That was like, oh my gosh, that's uh you know, I'm I'm still big d debating getting that remastered 4K.

SPEAKER_06 52:28

Oh man, the arrow set?

SPEAKER_04 52:30

Yeah, the arrow set. Yeah, I'm I'm still it's on my like my watch list uh because it's still so appealing to me because I mean for that matter I'll put all three of those movies in there because I would watch those three incessantly, like just all the time. Um I grew up in martial arts and stuff, so I know that. I mean, it was it was huge. Though those movies were huge for me.

SPEAKER_06 52:52

Yeah, I didn't really care for the third one, so I think I only saw it one time.

SPEAKER_04 52:56

Yeah, that's the one where they go to feudal Japan.

SPEAKER_06 52:58

Yeah. But one and two were my shit. And oh yeah, for some reason I didn't put them on my list at all. Really? Okay. They didn't even make my honorable mention, so good pull.

SPEAKER_04 53:10

Wow. Yeah, that's uh uh yeah, I don't know. I can't leave those guys off.

SPEAKER_06 53:14

Those are but I mean I also know I also know you really well. So I know that you picked Ninja Turtles for two reasons. I know you picked it because of the martial arts, which is cool. Yeah, but I know your main reason for picking that movie is Sam Rockwell.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

Yeah, that's uh that's a good point.

SPEAKER_06 53:36

You want regular or menthols?

SPEAKER_04 53:40

You know, uh it's um now the most recent animated uh Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie they that they made um was really good. It's on Paramount.

SPEAKER_06 53:52

I heard that.

SPEAKER_04 53:53

Um really, really good. Uh so I'd highly recommend if you haven't seen it. It's called Mutant Mayhem. It was fantastic, and it got well reviewed everywhere. And I think they're making another one that'll come out like next year or the year after. Yeah, I heard that it was a lot of fun, and um that one's also really well casted. You have like Seth Rogan and Jackie Chan in it and John Cena, and it's it's a great cast. Great cast.

SPEAKER_06 54:22

But um it doesn't have Corey Feldman though.

SPEAKER_04 54:28

Um, but yeah, man, the uh the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, man. Uh I used to have the video game on Super Nintendo and Oh, the arcade game.

SPEAKER_06 54:39

We used to go play the arcade all the time.

SPEAKER_04 54:42

Oh man, that was so good.

SPEAKER_06 54:44

Yeah. Back in the day when you'd go to the mall and they had the arcade.

SPEAKER_04 54:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 54:48

Um, when the Michael Bay Megan Fox movie came out, the first one. I remember Entertainment Weekly did a whole story. And they were talking, I forget her name, but the actress who played April O'Neal in the original Teenage Mute Ninja Turtles.

SPEAKER_04 55:05

Oh, what's her name?

SPEAKER_06 55:06

I I'm not sure I ever knew it, like, but she was not in the second one. It was a it was it was a different actress in the second movie.

SPEAKER_03 55:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:15

But she said in the interview that they did in Entertainment Weekly, she said that at the time it was a low budget film, and the way they were doing it was they were shipping all these martial arts actors from Hong Kong to play the foot soldiers. Really? So this is what she said in the interview, if I'm remembering it correctly. So, you know, don't sue me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is what she was saying. But uh, we could look it up later to make sure I'm not crazy.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:46

But she said that what they would do on set is they would have these intense kung fu battles and people would get hurt, and the producers would just throw these guys back on the boat and send them back to Hong Kong and get new guys. Oh, geez. And the actress who played April O'Neill was like, This is America, you can't fucking do this. Like, that's not okay. So she was like a strong advocate on set. What? According to according to her, anyway. And that is probably she said the reason why she was not invited back for the second one.

SPEAKER_04 56:21

That's crazy. So and how could we forget about Casey Jones in that movie?

SPEAKER_06 56:27

Oh, he's so good. What did we talk about that actor in?

SPEAKER_04 56:32

Oh man, what was it?

SPEAKER_06 56:33

We talked about that guy not too long ago, the guy who played Casey Jones.

SPEAKER_04 56:38

Yeah, um, Elias Koteus.

SPEAKER_06 56:40

Yeah, I forget what we talked about, but that's another guy that whenever I see him. Oh, what was it in Crash? No, we didn't talk about Crash, but he was good in Crash. He was great. That was a wild movie.

SPEAKER_04 56:52

Yeah, he was great in Crash. It's a wild fucking movie. I need to get the criterion of that. He's also in um collateral damage. I remember him in that. See, I never saw that's the Schwarzenegger one. I never watched that. Ooh, that's that's he was in Lost Souls with Minona Ryder. Oh, I know where we talked about it with him. Huh. Defendor.

SPEAKER_06 57:12

Defendor! He he was the dirty cop in Defendor. Yeah. He was so good in that movie. He he look he his character looks coked out the whole time.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

How low have you fallen, Casey Jones, that you that you had to go and play a corrupt cop in Defendor?

SPEAKER_06 57:33

He's he's such a great actor, but he he was what was the last line of the movie when Shredder falls in the garbage truck and he's like, oops, and he hits the button to crush him.

SPEAKER_04 57:44

I think we all wanted to be uh Casey Jones secretly. We all love the Turtles, but you see Casey Jones come in in the apartment scene with the hockey stick, he's just kicking ass.

SPEAKER_06 57:55

Well, it's just like this is why that guy's such a great actor. Because like I could think of he was in Lost Souls, and I think he played a priest in that. He was in um uh The Prophecy with Christopher Walken, where he played a cop.

SPEAKER_02 58:10

That's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 58:11

He was in Apt Pupil, where he played the homeless guy that um tries to trade Ian McKellen for information. You know, keep I'll keep your secret if you house me for a while. Yeah, it doesn't go well for him. But he's never badass in any of his movies except for Casey Jones. Like he was such a badass, and every other time I see him, he plays a weak character or a conflicted character. Yeah, but he could have been an action star.

SPEAKER_04 58:44

Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 58:47

Yeah, he was great, man.

SPEAKER_04 58:49

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, man.

SPEAKER_06 58:52

So good.

SPEAKER_04 58:52

The Secret of the Ooze. The Secret of the Ooze.

SPEAKER_06 58:56

So are you ready to hear my third movie?

SPEAKER_04 58:58

I am. Hit me.

SPEAKER_06 59:00

My third movie is also based off of the comic book. Okay, it is also a Disney movie.

SPEAKER_02 59:07

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 59:09

And it is also like The Shadow and Dick Tracy, which makes it an epic ending to a three-part triple feature.

SPEAKER_01 59:16

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 59:17

It is also set in the 30s. Do you know what movie I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_04 59:22

I don't. Is it uh is it um I'm thinking, I don't know why, but Roger Rabbit keeps coming up.

SPEAKER_06 59:28

But oh, that's another one that should be on my list, but isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 59:31

Yeah, you framed Roger Rabbit, right?

SPEAKER_06 59:34

Yeah, I must have a million times.

SPEAKER_04 59:36

Was that the 30s though? Um, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 59:40

No, it had to be the 30s or 40s.

SPEAKER_04 59:43

But I is there a comic book to that? I vaguely remember there being something.

SPEAKER_06 59:48

There might have been comic book offshoots, but that was based off of a like a straight book.

SPEAKER_04 59:52

Okay, maybe that's what I'm thinking of. But yeah, let's go. Let's hear it. What's your what's your number three?

SPEAKER_06 59:56

Number three is The Rocketeer.

SPEAKER_04 59:59

Oh, I was thinking about that one. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:02

That's a great movie, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:04

Oh man, the Rocketeer is fantastic, and it's so well cast.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:08

That's Jennifer Connolly.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:11

So when I was a kid, it was like this one-two punch. We got Labyrinth, which actually also should be on my list, and we got The Rocketeer, and she was just the hottest woman on the face of the earth. And for a long time, I still believe that. You know, she's one of my first crushes, and she's great in the movie. I don't really like the main actor.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:33

He's been in a couple things, but he was great in this movie. It had Paul Sorvino, who was also in Dick Tracy. It had Alan Arkin in it, and Alan Arkin's always a good time. But my favorite part of that movie was Timothy Dalton. He he played the villain.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:51

Yeah, Neville Sinclair.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:53

Exactly. Yeah, he he was supposed to be like an Errol Flynn Clark Gable movie star.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:00

But he was also like Tom Cruise because he does all his stunts and all his sword fights and shit. But he was also like a Nazi spy. And I didn't realize this at the time, but now historically looking at it, how cool that he was the villain in this movie, because he was still James Bond when he made that movie. He literally walked off the set of License to Kill, his second James Bond movie, which nobody knew at the time was going to be his last one. And then he did The Rocketeer.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:31

And he took a lot of his James Bond-esque character traits into the Rocketeer. It's evident.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:38

I feel like he plays James Bond, like the stereotypical James Bond, more in The Rocketeer than he did in his James Bond movies.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

Yeah, I mean, that's that's a good take.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:49

Because if you look at his movies, like they were right after Roger Moore.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:54

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:55

So the audience was kind of used to silly shit like James Bond skydiving into weddings.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:00

And bullshit like that. And and that was not Timothy Dalton's style.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:05

No.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:06

He he really was Daniel Craig before Daniel Craig.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:09

Yeah, that's actually a really good comparison, I think.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:11

But when you watch The Rocketeer, he is playing Roger Moore, James Bond.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:16

He is very charming and suave and funny.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:20

Elegant.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:21

Elegant. He is all the things. And he is just one of the great movie villains, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:26

Yeah. And you know, maybe he took that opportunity to play that side of Bond because he didn't really get a chance to display too much of that in in his movies.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:36

Yeah, well, uh, in his movies, he really wanted to be the the danger. He wanted to be the the James Bond from the books.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:44

And um I I remember when Daniel Craig's movie was coming out, my mom used to listen to Oldie's radio, K Earth 101. K Earth was the place, man. Still the place. Uh I I haven't listened to it in a lot of years. I stopped listening to it when I heard Motley Crue on there. I was like, okay, okay. But um I remember when the Daniel Craig uh Casino Royale was coming out, K K Earth did a like a poll of listeners, like who was the best James Bond? And most of their callers said Timothy Dalton because he was the James Bond from the books, or at least the closest they had ever had to the books.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:21

Yeah. But until Daniel Craig smashed Casino Royale.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:25

Until Daniel Craig smashed Casino Royale. But I I'm still a big fan of Timothy Dalton's Bond movies. They're two of my favorite ones. But man, he was so fucking good in the Rocketeer.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:37

So fucking good in the Rocketeer.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:39

You know, and we should mention Joe Johnson, the director.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:42

He's he's done who would go on to direct the first Avenger, Captain America.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:47

Yep. Probably one of the best Marvel movies that they made. Along Winter Soldier's the best Captain America movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:54

Well, I I would say Winter Soldier is probably the best Marvel movie full stop.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:58

Yeah, it's up there for sure. Uh, but you know, the Captain America, the first Avenger is not a bad movie whatsoever. No, not at all. But he made some other, I mean, really good movies. October Sky with Jillian Hall. That's a great movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:12

Lori Dern.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:13

Mm-hmm. Uh, he did Jumanji.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:16

Uh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:19

That's we must we might as well just put that as an honorable mention if we're not gonna put it on the list.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:25

Honestly, it was number six on my list.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:28

Yeah, I mean that that's that's I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:31

Jumanji is fucking classic.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:34

Yeah. He also did um uh Honey I Shrunk the Kids, if I'm not mistaken, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:39

Uh you know, you may be right about that.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:42

He's he's done a lot. He's done a lot.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:44

I think you're right about that. I think he did do Honey I Shrunk the Kids. That was another one that should be on my list, and I didn't didn't put it.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:50

Yeah. Um and didn't he do um didn't he do one of the Jurassic Parks?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:56

You know, I think he did Jurassic Park 3 now that you mentioned it. Yeah. The the nightmare where the raptor talks to Sam Neil on the plane. Jesus, that was a bad that was everyone knocks everyone knocks the last the lost world.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:12

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:12

But no one knew the horrors that were coming just a couple years later.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:16

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:17

I think we would have appreciated the lost world more as a society had we known that we were gonna get talking raptors.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:25

But uh raptor trainers for that matter.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:28

Yeah. Uh, but um, yeah, The Rocketeer, definitely, and you know, Jumanji are probably his his probably his most well-regarded movies.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:37

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. The Ro The Rocketeer is one of those ones they try to make uh like the last couple, I would say the last five to ten years, I've been hearing a lot of talk about that. I know that they were trying to do a I don't know if it was supposed to be theatrical or Disney Channel sequel, but they were gonna do a sequel set in the 50s or 60s with a woman. Pilot, which I'm not sure how well, you know, we had Amelia Earhart, so I guess it's plausible that there could have been a woman pilot at the time, but there weren't many of them.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:11

No, they'd have to really um kind of rewrite the script to fit that because it probably would have been uh an outlandish job for women to have if they were even allowed at that point in time to do that.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:24

I know that they were allowed to an extent.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:28

Because, you know, of course, Emilio Earhart was world renowned, but it wasn't, you know, even though she was, it was still one of those fields that were ruled by men. Of course, you know, you you have the they like that club exclusive.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:43

Yeah, and you have the you know, all the atypical, like all the old advertisements and things like that where you see, you know, the men as these strong pilots, and then all the women are the are the servers and the flight attendants and those type of things. The air hosts. Yeah, for like, you know, like um what was the famous airline back then? It was like um Pan Am. Pan Am, yeah. So that's you see if you look at all those old photos and advertisements, that's how they that's how it was, it was marketed and you know, it was that's that's how it was.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:16

Exactly. But I know that for whatever reason that project fell apart, and then they reenvisioned it for a while, where it would have been, and I'm gonna mispronounce his last name, uh, because I always do, but it was gonna be David Oelio, and he was gonna play a Tuskegee Airman. That would have been cool, and that would have been great.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:36

Yeah, that would have been cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:38

Um, but I think that project has also fallen apart.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:41

Yeah, he's a great actor too.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:42

Oh, he was fantastic in um uh A Most Violent Year. Did you ever see that one?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:47

I did.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:48

So good in that movie. Everybody was so good in that movie, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:51

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:52

So what you got for your number four, big man?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:54

My number four. Now it's it's not gonna be the PG, PG 13.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:01

Okay, a little outside the the target, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:04

A little outside the target. Um, or maybe we could just throw it as an honorable mention, but it's bad boys.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:10

The the the Will Smith?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:13

Yeah, yeah, that's definitely not the target I was aiming for, but yeah, bad boys was definitely one of mine as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:20

No, so we can I mean we could just use that as an honorable mention because I remember falling in love with that movie. Um, you know, as a kid when I watched it for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:32

Oh, it was amazing.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:34

Yeah, I'm I think I'm more partial to the second one.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:40

And I'm less partial to the second one.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:42

I'm only partial to the second one because of the car chase scene on the freeway. I thought that was just epic with the Ferrari weaving out of traffic, and um I I I love that scene. Love that scene.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:56

See see, for me, it was like watching Bad Boys 1. It was like this is the new lethal weapon.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:03

Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's such a good uh a good take.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:07

That's how I saw it. And then we it took a long time for the second one to came out, like almost 10 years.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:15

And then, you know, it was kind of silly.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:18

It was it was it was much more comedic, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:21

It was much more comedic. The the car chase on the freeway, like, yeah, that's a good idea, them dropping the cars, but it was so obviously the same CGI techniques he used on Armageddon.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:33

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:34

I didn't like the that their boss was um, you know, he was an anger management and yeah, Pantoliano. Yeah, like that's a good idea, but I didn't like the execution of that. And then the whole fucking ending of that movie doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:52

It doesn't.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:54

Like I said, there's no way in hell they would have been able to get into Cuba. And then they basically would have started a war doing what they did over there.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:06

And then it was basically the same plot because it was like in the first movie, Teo Leone's been taken. We gotta get her back. She she was our witness.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:14

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:15

And then the second movie, they've taken Gabrielle Union, she's Martin Lawrence's sister, we've gotta get her back. Yeah, so I I didn't dig the second movie. I really wanted to.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:26

Because I love the first one, and I haven't even bothered to see three and four.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:31

Three was a letdown. Four was actually okay, but it's the same theme. Oh my gosh, they've taken somebody kidnap, and we gotta get her back.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:40

Yeah, it was just like the the first one was all cylinders, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:44

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:45

All cylinders. But yeah, let's let's use that as an honorable mention because I really do want to try to keep this to PG PG 13.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:53

Yeah, you got it. So the next one I think I'm gonna go with then is the Mighty Ducks. It's on my list too, baby. Yeah, man, the Mighty Vingt Ducks, the Flying V, Coach Bombay, Joshua Fucking Jackson. Yeah. I mean, how do you get better than the Mighty Ducks?

SPEAKER_06 1:11:15

You don't. Even the Mighty Ducks couldn't get better than the Mighty Ducks.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:18

No, uh that's an all-time classic.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:23

Let me ask you. Hmm, what do you remember about the music in that movie?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:29

Absolutely nothing.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:31

Okay. I remember that was a big deal when I was a kid. Um they had this song Rock and Roll by Gary Glitter.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:40

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:41

Who has since, for unfortunate reasons, become a persona non grata that we don't want to talk about because disturbing shit. But when that movie came out, he had a song called Rock and Roll. And it was just this really cool tune, and every once in a while he'd go rock and roll, like that. And they edited that part out, and they just did the tune. And they played it a bunch on the previews, I think I remember. And it became a big hockey song for a lot of years. Like they would play it at hockey games for like 10 years or whatever it was, until you know his unfortunate side interest was revealed.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:33

And and then it started becoming less of a thing. But I remember that song was all over that movie. And when spoilers, but when Joshua Jackson scores the game-winning goal, they played We Are the Champions by Queen.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:53

Yeah, classic song.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:55

And then at the end of the movie, when Coach Bombay rides away into the sunset and they start the end credits, they play We Will Rock You by Queen. Do you remember this? This is making sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:08

I watched it uh when we got Disney Plus, that was one of the movies that me and Jen rewatched.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:14

Because I know a lot of people are like, oh, I'm gonna watch Snow White for the 12th time. I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:18

The Mighty Ducks, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:20

We watched The Mighty Ducks. And apparently, none of those songs are in the movie.

unknown 1:13:27

What?

SPEAKER_06 1:13:27

They're not in the movie. Apparently, when it was released theatrically, they had completely different movies because they couldn't get the licensing to the Queen songs. What? So when they release it on video, they got the licensing for video.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:44

And so, unless you saw it at the movie theater when it first came out for like a decade, decade and a half, that was the only way to see the movie is with the Queen songs. Wow. But when I watch it on Disney Plus, I I know this because when I watch it on Disney Plus, I was like, where's Queen? What the fuck is this song that they're playing?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:07

Yeah. I mean, I have the original VHS's in the garage, and so I mean those movies played all the time.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:15

Yeah, same. But if you watch it on Disney Plus, it's a different soundtrack.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:20

Hmm. That's interesting. Now I'm gonna have to watch it on Disney Plus again just to go back and listen.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:26

Let me tell you the song, like I'm sure it was a good song, but it was not We Will Rock You. No, not at all. Much softer song, and I'm like, whoa, this doesn't do it all.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:38

Hmm. I really liked that um we got to see um Fulton Reed and um in Daredevil.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:47

Uh Eldon Henson?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:49

Henson or Hanson?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:51

Henson.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:52

Henson, I was right the first time. Yeah. He was good in that. He was in the butterfly effect, too. I don't know if you remember that.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:58

He was. Yeah, yeah. With uh Ashton Kutcher. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:01

Yeah. The one movie of Ashton Kutcher's that I liked. I haven't seen it in like 20 years, but it's a good movie, man. I really liked it at the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:09

Yeah, I s so did I. I really liked that movie.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:12

Um, I remember, God, how long ago was it? Like maybe a decade ago now. But but I remember somebody, some Vanity Fair, somebody, I don't know who the fuck it was, but somebody did a a study of who the most successful actor in Hollywood was up to that time, based off of a um every dollar that they paid the actor to every dollar that the movie made profit. It's probably Coach Bombay. It was Coach fucking Bombay. I'm not surprised. That guy was everywhere. But yeah, he was uh he was the most he beat out Will Smith, who now would it be so hard to do, but in 2012, 2015.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:57

Yeah, he was one of the highest paid actors.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:00

He was one of the highest paid actors, you know. He had the Men in Black series, and of course, you know, he had the all-time classic Wild Wild West, which which I actually do enjoy. I haven't seen in a long time, but I, you know, never got all the hate of that movie. It's fun. It's a fun movie. It was not supposed to be genius. No. If if you've ever seen the TV show was based off of it, it's better.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:25

Yeah. And that's probably the biggest fail in what he what he opted out of to do the Wild Wild West.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:32

I I he wouldn't have worked in The Matrix, though. It wouldn't have worked.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:36

No. Uh I think I think he was too much of an actor for that role for what they needed.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:40

Well, and he would have he would have changed the character fundamentally.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:45

Yes, he would have.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:46

Because he would have will smithed it up, which that character didn't need.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:51

No. Yeah, so it worked out for the better.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:53

Uh it worked out for the better for everybody. I know I know Wild Wild West wasn't successful, and it's one of his biggest regrets, but I don't think the Matrix would have been as popular had he been the lead in that movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:08

I think it would have been popular for other reasons.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:11

It would have been popular for other reasons, but it wouldn't still to this day be remembered the way it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:17

No, no. Um, that's arguably the greatest movie right before the 21st century. That little, you know.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:25

Came in right under the wire there.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:27

Yeah, yeah. Um, but you could throw that in conversations for one of the best movies of the 90s easily.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:33

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:34

Yeah, if not the best movie. I mean, it's it's it's it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:39

I I agree. I mean, you know, there's Salma Hayek, there's Kevin Klein. We are talking about Wild Wild West as one of the greatest movies ever, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:47

Yeah, that's exactly what we're doing here, Wade.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:50

Oh, you were talking about The Matrix. I'm just fucking around. I knew you were talking about The Matrix.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:57

Oh man.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:58

So for my number four, this was soul searching.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:03

I had two movies slotted for this.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:07

But I'm gonna go with a goofy movie. The goofy movie? The goofy movie. Oh, it's so good. So that's gonna be three Disney movies on my list. Oh, it's so good. I love a goofy movie. I love the goofy movie, and the the reason I put it on my list is because we were Jen was driving us somewhere this week on my vacation, and between because you know, obviously my playlists and her playlists are much different.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:37

But somewhere between Gwen Stefani and um I'm for Dua Lipa.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:46

We got the song that Max sings when uh, you know, he's going to school and he's gonna do the big thing, you know? Like I I forget the song, but you know, I hear that's a tune in my head. It was uh power trip, right? Power trip. Was that the song? No, no, no, not the one. Oh, um not the one he performs at the assembly before that when he comes out of the house, you know, everyone's singing about, you know, oh, down with the textbooks and up with the comics and going to the mall and sitting by the beach because they're out of school for the summer.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:22

Yeah, but I love that movie, man. It always makes me smile. It's so good. It's so good.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:29

I I I love the sequence. I I have it like ingrained in my head when you know Goofy's ready to like go on this road trip. And he basically he basically guilt trips Max into going, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:44

And he goes, I'm gonna talk to myself, and he goes, All alone. All alone. That's one of my favorite lines, too. I quote that shit all the time. All alone. My favorite part of that movie is when they go to the the possum park, and they got that way outdated, shitty robotic possum jamboree. Yeah, and Max is sitting next to that little girl on the giant fucking diaper, and she's got like two teeth in her head, and she's just having the best time.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:22

Yeah. I yeah, I I I really enjoy that movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:26

Yeah, that's good stuff, man. That's a really good choice.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:29

Powerline.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:30

Yeah. And anybody who grew up as a kid in that time and didn't have a crush on uh Roxanne, I don't believe you.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:40

I don't believe you, yeah. It's true. You know what else I loved about that movie is they had because there was Max and his best friend PJ.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:52

And they were both on the the Goof Troop TV series that came out after. But in the movie they had that third friend that was voiced by Pauly Shore.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:05

And I forget the character's name. Uh Bobby. Bobby.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:10

Bobby's a Maruski. And it's so funny because he doesn't have a credit on the movie. Pauly Shore didn't take a credit on the movie. He didn't need a credit because everybody knew who the fuck he was the moment he opened his mouth.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:25

Oh yeah. But cheese. He was obsessed with cheese whiz.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:28

Cheddar Wiz. And it's so funny because like now, like the moment he opened his mouth, like everybody knew he was Poly Shore at the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:42

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:43

But like, who the fuck knows that now? Like, people watching it for the first time now, they don't know who Pauly Shore is.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:49

No, no.

unknown 1:21:50

Blow.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:51

Man, that's a good that's a good one, dude.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:53

That is Weasel gets no respect these days. What about you, man? What's your number five?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:59

This is a tough one for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:03

Um, because there's a like a few I think of off the top of my head, and I'm like, man, like which one do I go with? And I think I think I'm gonna go with, and this is a little later in the 90s, so I was like already reaching that point where I was starting to watch like more adult movies at a young age, and it's PG 13, but I think I have to go with Happy Gilmore.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:31

Yeah, yeah, Happy Gilmore. That's a that's a good I'm not a huge Sandler fan, but I like it, I like Happy Gilmore a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:38

Oh, I mean, Happy Gilmore to me is a classic. I mean, you could also throw The Waterboy in there, too. It it's it's all in that same time frame, you know?

SPEAKER_06 1:22:48

Yeah, I think The Waterboy was about five years later, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:52

Mm-hmm. But um, yeah, for me, uh Happy Gilmore was such a funny movie. I loved, loved Happy Gilmore. Um, and you can't beat his casting for that movie. I mean, you have Julie Bowen, right? You have she was really good. Bob Barker. Bob Barker. The scene with Bob Barker is great. And for those of you who haven't watched Happy Gilmore 2, the MM cameo that replaces essentially Bob Barker's character is freaking hilarious in the second one.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:27

Yeah, I still haven't seen the second one. Well, we just got Netflix back. I know Jen wants to watch it. We'll probably catch it one day. It's a good time.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:34

And that's all it is. If you take it for what it is, it's a fine movie. It's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:38

Now let me ask you, let me ask you, in Happy Gilmore 2, do they deal with the Ben Stiller character from the retirement home?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:45

They do.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:47

Because I know they cut out a scene in the original movie where he goes back and kicks that guy's ass.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:54

They do deal with him. He in the second one, he's the um he's like a a life group coach. Like a like at a meeting, you know?

SPEAKER_06 1:24:08

So good.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:09

And it's totally unexpected. It's it's actually I actually really uh really enjoyed that. But you you can't also forget Carl Weathers. Oh nice Chubbs. So good. Um we get Chubbs' son in the second one. Nice. Um, and then Shooter McGavin. Shooter McGavin. Shooter McGavin.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:29

I believe that guy's name is Christopher McDonald.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:33

Yeah, you're right. That's Christopher McDonald.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:35

He he was one of those actors that would pop up every once in a while, a good, a good solid character actor.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:41

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:42

And I think Happy Yomor was probably his biggest deal.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:46

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:47

But and he also, hey, how could we forget uh Richard Keel? Oh, Jaws. Yeah, dude, Jaws. You know who was one of my favorites was the uh the Heckler.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:58

Uh-huh. Um, oh, um uh Joe Flaherty.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:02

Yeah, he he was uh SCTV guy back in the day. He was also he also played the dad a couple years later on Freaks and Geeks.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:14

Oh, that's right. You know, that's one of those shows that I was always disappointed that never made more more of a runtime.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:21

You know, it it was a Friday night show. You know, I remember that, you know, it was a Friday night show about high school kids. You know, high school kids weren't at home on Friday night, it should have been a Wednesday night show.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:33

But yeah, but that's a great series.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:36

Great series, really well written, amazing cast, a lot of them be before their time.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:43

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:43

But uh Happy Gilmore is my number five.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:48

That's that's a good one, man. I I do like some Happy Gilmore. I didn't care for Billy Madison, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:54

Billy Billy Madison's not too much of my jam either.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:58

Yeah, so when Happy Gilmore was coming out, my brother loved Billy Madison.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:02

So when Happy Gilmore was coming out, I was very like, no, thank you. But I have to admit, even at the time, you know, this this is pretty funny. You know, the the scene where he's apologizing to Chubbs. You were right, I was wrong, I'm not attractive, and you're mildly good looking or whatever he does. And then he cuts him off after like a couple of those. He's like, okay, at least you can admit that now. Yeah. Carl Weathers. You know what I think of when I think of Carl Weathers?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:37

What do you think of?

SPEAKER_06 1:26:38

I think of his uh bit on arrested development, where he was Tobias' acting coach. Yeah. And he just had that whole sequence where he kept talking about a stew. You know? Like you, oh no, no, no, that's good. You put the bones in some water and you do this, you do that, and you got a stew, baby. Yeah, Carl Weather. So that guy had a lot of range. I've I've always wanted to watch Action Jackson. I never have though. I didn't get around to that either. That's that's on the list that I need to check out soon. So for my number five, this was one that occurred to me late in making this list. It's another reason why I'm kind of glad that I pushed this list back a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:23

Because I didn't realize this was a PG movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:26

Oh gosh, it's gonna be us one of those surprising PG ones.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:30

It's a surprising PG one.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:33

This is uh what I would refer to as gateway horror. And by gateway horror, you know, it's like uh are you afraid of the dark kind of stuff?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:43

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:44

Where it's it's like horror, but it's like horror aimed at a wide audience. So it's not like terrifying, like an R rated the ring movie or something. It stars Tom Hanks and Carrie Fisher.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:58

Okay, and it's

SPEAKER_06 1:28:00

Called The Burbs.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:01

The Burbs, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:02

Have you ever seen The Burbs, man?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:04

I have. It's been a long time, but I have seen The Burbs.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:07

That is one of my favorite movies. I love The Burbs.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:11

Yeah, that it that's I think the way you explained it as a uh a soft introduction to horror.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:17

Um, because it's I mean it's a comedy horror, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:28:20

It's very blatantly a comedy horror with these yeah, little weird tones because it's um uh Joe Dante.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:28

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:29

You know, it's he directed Gremlins, it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:33

Gremlins is another one that could be on the list, actually, too. But yeah, it's just one of those movies where it's really funny in the scary world, but you're never really scared because of the tone of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:46

But yeah, it's just like the neighbors spying on the weird neighbors next door. These guys gotta be weird. We've never seen them. Why haven't we seen these people? Why aren't they painting their house? Why aren't they cutting their grass?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:58

Yeah. And I think the 90s do a really good job at the comedy horror or the friendly horror genre. You know, you think of Casper, you think of um, you know, uh the Beetlejuices, you know, uh, you know, uh you just you have those movies that are family oriented, but they're about potentially scary topics, you know. Um, and I think they do a really good job at that in the 90s.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:23

I I would I would agree. They do they do like there's occasional ones that didn't quite make the cut. Like um uh I this one came up because uh a friend of mine from years and years ago, she posted something on her Instagram and I commented on it, and we wound up having a bit of a discussion back and forth, and she's like, hey, you know, I'm my niece is 10 years old and she loves horror movies. What are some great horror movies? And you know, I'm thinking of all these movies, and the burbs came up, and I'm like, shit, but the one where I was like, you know, I think The Frighteners is a great gateway horror movie, but it's rated R.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:04

And every time I watch it, I I'm like, this is rated R for what?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:08

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:09

And there's like one sex joke in the movie that maybe does it, but honestly, I also think because the main villain is a serial killer may have something to do with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:17

Yeah, possibly.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:18

But yeah, it's just one of those movies. This is rated R. I don't know. But then some movies I'm like, how is this not rated R? Like, how was Dick Tracy rated PG in 1990?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:30

I don't know. But you know what? There's I just think that's the 90s, man. They some movies make no sense with ratings, others make sense. I mean, but there's a lot that you go back and watch and you're like, uh, this definitely should not be what it's rated.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:45

Yeah, it was a magical time, wasn't the 90s?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:48

It was.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:49

Because honestly, we could sit here for hours and just talk about 90s movies. There were so many great movies in the 90s.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:56

There's a lot. Yeah, we could make a 90s list. I mean, we can make a list for every every decade, but we can make multiple episodes on just the 90s.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:09

That was a golden time to be alive for a movie fan.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:12

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:13

But yeah, so the Burbs would be my number five.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:16

Okay.

unknown 1:31:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:17

Corey Feldman's in that also. Mm-hmm. A lot of Corey Feldman on this list. There are two Corey Feldman movies on this list, which is um two more than most people would be able to put on their list.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:31

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:33

Corey Feldman.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:35

Oh man. You know what the other one that I was thinking of?

SPEAKER_06 1:31:38

What was the other one?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:39

Um, The Mask.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:41

Okay. I didn't dig the mask.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:43

It's Jim Carrey, you know. For me, that was such a fun movie growing up.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:47

That was the height of Jim Carrey, too.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:50

That was like Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:52

If if I remember correctly, and honestly, all three of these movies could be on the list. But he was the first actor to have three number one movies in a year. And it was Aceventura Pet Detective. Classic, Dumb and Dumber, and The Mask.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:10

All of those other two PG 13, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:13

Yeah, those other two you could put on this list.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:16

Easily.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:18

Could also put When Nature Calls, which is a great movie, also.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:23

Yeah, I think The Mask for me. Obviously, there's a lot of different elements to the Mask, but like it kind of reminds me of Dick Tracy. It kind of reminds me of who framed Roger Rabbit. There's a lot of those movies I feel like it kind of culminates from. And I think that's why I enjoyed it so much. One, obviously, because Jim Carrey's fantastic in it, but um He was fantastic in it. You know, it has all these really cool elements um to his character. And I mean, how could you like not like the dog getting the mask?

SPEAKER_06 1:32:55

The dog getting the mask was cool. It was also the first time we ever saw Cameron Diaz, really. Yeah, that's a yeah, that's a good point. And that was that was a big thing at the time. I remember everybody was like, Who is that? And how how do we put her in more things?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:10

Yeah, yeah. And you know, that director did some other good stuff too. He did um Chuck Russell, yeah, yeah. Chuck Russell.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:19

Eraser, God. Holy shitty racer.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:24

Did you did you ever see um The Blob Sci-Fi movie? That was also Russell.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:31

Yeah, that's a that's a really popular underground 80s. Yeah, late 80s. Late 80s horror movie. I I remember seeing a preview for that movie when it was coming out and it scared the shit out of me. So I didn't actually see that till I was in my teens.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:47

Yeah, that's one uh sci-fi or like horror movie I remember watching when I was, you know, still a kid and being really creeped out by it.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:57

Yeah, yeah. I I don't remember what it was on the preview, but we were sitting there eating. I remember this specifically, we were eating in and out and we were watching something on TV while we were having dinner, our In N Out Burger.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:11

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:11

And they had a preview for the blob. And I couldn't finish my dinner, and I was freaked the fuck out for like a week just from the preview. He also, I think, wrote one of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies or directed one of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies. Did he? He at least wrote one. I don't know if he directed one, but he may have.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:31

His time was late 80s, you know, 90s, right? Russell's. So it it if it was Nightmare on Elm Street, it would have probably been one of the later ones.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:42

Yeah, four to six.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:44

Probably, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:45

Yeah, four to six somewhere in that neighborhood.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:48

Um, one of the ones that I was thinking of, the one that hurt to take off, but I took it off because I didn't need another Disney movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:56

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:57

Was uh Sister Act.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:59

Oh, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:01

I love Sister Act.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:03

That was another one that Jen and I watched when um we got Disney Plus because I hadn't seen it in a lot of years. Dude, Hocus Pocus? Hocus Pocus is a great movie, too. It's not on my list, but that's another gateway horror movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:17

Hocus Pocus. Fantastic. Yeah. I uh you could go on, just you know.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:23

Hey, how about how about this one? How about this one? You ready?

SPEAKER_04 1:35:26

Let's hear it.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:28

Hook.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:29

Oh, hook, yeah. Hook is a classic.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:32

I've never understood the hate for that movie. Everyone's like, oh, hook's not any good, but I disagree entirely.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:38

Yeah, yeah. We could also throw uh Independence Day on there.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:43

Independence day you could throw on there.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:45

PG13.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:47

Uh one that was on my list that I had on backup just in case was uh the Addams Family.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:53

Ooh, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a really good one.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:56

Yeah, I like the Addams Family a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:58

I like Adams Family values a lot. The other horror one that came up when I was looking for stuff was Tremors. You remember Tremors? Oh, yeah, I remember Tremors. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:09

Holy shit. Well, one day we're gonna have to have a real serious talk about Tremors. Yeah. I've got a great Tremors story.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:19

But I was slightly afraid to go near dirt for years.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:25

Like I lived in a suburb. A suburb.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:30

And I was afraid to go near my front lawn.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:33

Yeah, Tremors, Tremors. I watched Tremors dozens of times, it feels like when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:39

My my mom is a huge Tremors fan. She's seen all of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:44

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:45

All of them. There's like seven now.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:48

And I think the last two had Jamie Kennedy.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:52

Oh man. Yeah, you can't get better than Kevin Bacon and um what's the other guy? Uh the older gentleman. Fred Ward. Fred Ward. Yes. Fred Ward.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:02

Fred Ward.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:03

Oh man.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:04

Reese Witherspoon's dad.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:06

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:08

That's how genuine. I was like, oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But we could go on all night about this. Did you want to do the recap or?

SPEAKER_04 1:37:19

All right, everyone. So just so that we can go through them again, we're going to give you our list of five movies that we were growing up with that were either PG or PG 13 that we watched on repeat, essentially. My top five were Brink, The Big Green, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, The Mighty Ducks, and The Mask.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:41

And my top five were The Shadow, Dick Tracy, The Rocketeer, A Goofy Movie, and The Burbs.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:52

Hmm. Those are good lists, man. And we also mentioned uh a handful of, you know, honorable mentions. Um that a lot of Disney movies. A lot of Disney did Disney commanded the 90s, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:07

They really did. Like when you really think about it, because we didn't even talk about their animated movies. Like we kind of mentioned them last week when we did the animated films, like Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin. Iron Giant. I don't think that was Disney. I think that was Fox. Oh, yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the that was the other guy that when they were Anastasia. Oh. That was the same company that did Anastasia. They were That was actually really good. That was really good. I loved Anastasia back in the day.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:35

I forgot it. I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:37

I only remembered it because I remember that it was um I think it was David Geffen. It might have been David Geffen when he left Disney and he was trying at Fox to Anastasia has yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:50

Anastasia has one of the best villains in any animated movie with uh Rasputin. Rasputin, man. That was a great villain.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:57

He was great.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:58

Mulan, that was another great Disney 90s movie. No, that was early 2000s, or was that late 90s? I want to say it's 90s. I think it was the late 90s. I think it was like 98, 99.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:10

Yeah. Yeah, it launched great.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:13

Yeah. But a lot of Disney movies on our lists, man. I think you'd be hard pressed to do this list like in 20 years from right now. I think you'd be hard pressed to do the same topic and come up with any Disney movies that were not Pixar films.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:31

That's a good point.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:32

Because that's really what's keeping them afloat is Pixar and doing live action versions of their old cartoons.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:41

Yeah, they really haven't had a lot of new ideas, so to say. Pixar is really I I think that take is spot on with them keeping the the world of fascination and dreaming and wonder that that we know of as Disney that you see in all the classics and all the great movies that they've made for the last 60 years or 70 years, it's not the same outside of Pixar.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:13

I feel like I could be wrong, but hear me out. I feel like in the early 2000s, they fell off this weird cliff. They tried to do big giant stories, and they weren't popular at all. There was the there was I forget what it was called. There was the ones with the cows that go on an adventure, home on the range or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:42

There was uh Treasure Planet.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:45

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:46

There was Atlantis.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:48

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:49

And I feel like all three of those movies flopped.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:53

And even though these next two are kind of considered minor classics for a generation, they don't have the staying power, I think, of like a little mermaid or a sleeping beauty or anything, but The Emperor's New Groove and Lilo and Stitch.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:12

Great movies.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:14

Not for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:15

No.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:16

But I feel like those two movies were more popular. And Hercules. Hercules is another one.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:22

That I feel like was semi-popular. The Hunchback of Notre Dame. These are all movies that I feel like hit a level of popularity.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:30

Yeah, but nothing like the classics.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:31

But nothing like the classics. Like people now might consider them classics, but that's because they grew up with them. But in 20 years, I think people will still talk about The Little Mermaid.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:44

But I don't think anyone's going to be talking about The Emperor's New Groove. And if they talk about Lilo and Sitch, it'll probably be the live action version.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:53

No, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:55

I don't know. When I saw that movie, I thought it was pretty okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:58

The animated one is much better.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:00

No, that's what I'm talking about, was the animated one. I didn't see the live action one.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:04

I loved the animated. I've seen both. I love the animated one.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:08

I I feel like at the time I was way into box office and all that, and I maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention, but I feel like that movie came and went without much fanfare. And I feel like the live action one was a huge, giant success.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:24

I think they both were in their own right. I don't think they would have remade Leelo and Stitch into a live action if it didn't have any sort of notoriety.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:32

Well, I I think at the time, I don't think it did well. I could be wrong about that, but I really don't remember it making a big splash. But I think it's one of those movies that over time gained an audience through home video and then Disney Plus and all that. So I I think it was a safer bet now than it was back then, and I think they were more successful this time around for that reason. Yeah. But that's that's an old man's take. I'm an old man.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:02

Well, I feel like an old man too, but probably because it's getting late.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:06

It's getting late. My vacation's over in uh about you know six hours, something like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:13

Yeah, mine too, unfortunately. So with that, I think we uh we should bid farewell to our our audience, don't you think? Absolutely. Alright. And with that, I think uh I can say, Wade, that uh we ride together, we die together, up all night cinema for life.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:33

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's the bad boy thing, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:36

Yeah. Since you know, it was uh rated R, couldn't make it on the list.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:41

But we'll do this list again one time when we'll do the R-rated movies.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:46

Oh, that's a fun list.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:48

That'll be that'll be a fun fucking list, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:51

Oh yeah, that'll be a great list. But with that, we are up on night cinema. We're your hosts. I'm Adrian. Say goodnight, Wade. The Leaning Tower of Cheesa!

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