From Gyms To Peptides: Fitness, Sobriety, And Conspiracies

What do you get when two friends mix gym war stories, sober clarity, and a stack of needles? A fast, funny, and surprisingly useful ride through boxing layoffs, biohacking wins and fails, and the kind of blunt honesty that makes you check your own routines. We open with chest day chatter and a jab at morning workouts, then shift into the sober life: cheaper, simpler, sharper. From there, the riff widens—Somali pirates and why risk sounds heroic until it’s real; immigration takes and whether willpower or indoctrination keeps people boxed in. It’s provocative, but always grounded in the same challenge: are you choosing discomfort on purpose?

The middle gets gritty and practical. We break down NAD IVs and why pushing the drip too fast feels like your chest forgot how to breathe. Testosterone timing, estrogen control, and the case for splitting doses. A real-world peptide stack—testamorelin, BPC-157, melanotan, daily NAD, reditrutide—and an allergic-reaction cautionary tale about sourcing. We talk site rotation, start-low dosing, and how to decide if methylene blue fits your genetics rather than your TikTok feed. No white coats, no fluff—just field-tested biohacking with common sense and a sense of humor.

Then the gears grind into the big questions. Moon landing logic, 9/11 skepticism, and simulation theory as an oddly tidy model for modern progress. Whether you agree or not, the value is the lens: question what you’re sold. To balance the wild, we share a clean sales pattern—three truths and a trap—so you can spot manipulative scripts in ads, pharmaceuticals, and even your own pitches. We land on standards that actually move the needle: lift consistently, learn obsessively, sleep enough, hydrate, show up early, and stop making cute excuses for being late. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs a push, and drop a comment: what belief did you change your mind about this year?

Transcript

Banter, Gym Talk, And Boxing Layoffs

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Oh. All right. We're talking about stuff today. What do you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Dude, that's a great question.

SPEAKER_02 0:05

We always talk about the gym and shit. We're gonna talk about cool stuff.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

I thought we would have a little whiteboard with our notes.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

It's in the garage.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Jonathan didn't want to move the whiteboard out.

SPEAKER_02 0:13

It was too heavy. I tried picking up. Today was chest day.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

So I didn't make it happen. Jonathan went to the gym today. That's a shocker.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

No, went to the gym in the morning today. You gotta really work on your terminology, Greg. Because that statement just assumes that I never go to the gym. I'm more of a night owl.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

I don't think he goes to the gym ever.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

I'll still fuck you up.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

I could not go to the gym for three years, six years, and still fuck you up. Well, speaking about the gym, let's talk about boxing. Jonathan, when was the last time you boxed? About a month and a half ago, maybe two. It was actually longer than that because you didn't box last month because of you having to work more. And the month before that, because your ribs were busted by this guy. Yeah, but that was a month and a half ago. That's not no.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

You're coming up on three months. No, that'd be a month and a half ago. Because it was halfway through the month. Because I still, even with busted ribs, I still sparred with you, and you guys were all still fucking scared, knowing that you could

Sobriety, Drunk Stories, And Finding Hobbies

SPEAKER_02 1:06

take me. Yeah. And it was embarrassing because you guys hit his ribs. And after that, I was like, you know what? There's there's a lot of fear, and you know, people were scared to box and shit. So I'm like, I'll give him a month off. And I've got a lot of shit to do right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

I don't know if he's coming back, ladies and gents. He might be leaving the boxing crew.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

So I turned his time slot, so so I had this thought about being sober for the last two years, and how dumb and amazing I was as a drunk.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

I don't know where he's going with this.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

I had nowhere to go. I was just thinking about your running, right? When you were running around the hill for 12 hours. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and back in my day when I was a real man trying to pretend like I was cool. I did one of those running things, but it involved a lot of alcohol.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Oh, he did a beer mile. One of those things.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

No, not beer mile. It was it we called it running a herd, it was a military thing. 24-hour run, 5k segments. You had a team of, I think, six. And basically you just stayed drunk for 24 hours. And then that led me to thinking about all the other drunk times. And someone asked me recently, is like, do you ever miss drinking? Or like ever was like, fuck no. After like six months, not really. It's way easier to be sober. You just gotta figure out how to have fun sober. That's hard.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

It's a lot less money.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

So, Greg, what sober activities do you do in life? I run, I go to the gym. Could you sound any more boring?

SPEAKER_01 2:30

I mean, what else do you what else do we do? What hobby do you have, Greg? Dude, I don't have any hobbies.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

You need to find a hobby.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

I study sales training. Is that is that a hobby? I'm a I'm a thief of knowledge. I'm just a collector. It's like Netflix. Netflix. Okay. Netflix for sales training.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

Yeah. Well, where are you going with that? Dude, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Doing pretty good. That's just my hobby. I just see a course, buy a course, learn a course. See a course, buy a course, learn a course. Make my own shit, build stuff. I'm like Bob the Builder in my office.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

So all that time you're spending on sales training, you fucked up your first sentence of this podcast. Dude, I don't even know. Grammatically. Do we care about grammatically right now? Well, not grammatically, but your words have intent and meaning, and how you use them can describe two different things.

unknown 3:18

Fucker, fucker.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

See? You got little words. You even have to curse now. I have eliminated cursing from my vocabulary. He said fuck literally two minutes ago. We could roll the tape back.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

We will roll your tape back. Drop it in the comments. Did Jonathan swear? Probably. See? But I didn't mean it. Dude, here's something that we could talk

Somali Pirates, Security Fantasies, And Risk

SPEAKER_01 3:40

about. I got a real thing we should talk about. Okay. Somalia. Somalian pirates?

SPEAKER_02 3:45

In Chicago? Minneapolis. Minneapolis. That's what I meant. It's all the same Midwest shithole.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

Yeah, dude. It's all going down, man.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

Yeah, I saw something about that, and then I think PVD's podcast I was listening to at the gym this morning. They were talking about it. And, you know, I think it's kind of cool. I've always kind of wanted to be a pirate. Sounds kind of fun. You know, be out there in a boat and overtake other boats. Or I want to be the guy on the big boat that gets to shoot at the pirates. That's a lot more fun. Like with the water cannon? No. I'm like with the real gun. Bullets, great. We're not playing fucking squirt guns anymore.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

I am the top to know. That's what I'd be saying.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

No, because they have that. Like as a contractor, they look for military guys. I looked into it, but it all like you had to be out of like South Africa, and I think something was out of the UK somewhere, and I couldn't find like any easy American go shoot pirates. And yeah, it's just too difficult to shoot pirates.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

The adventures of Jonathan Roberts, part one.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

Honestly, I think see, they're stupid. They're wasting money. There's people that would pay to do it.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Like they don't have to pay motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

Be like going on a safari.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Yeah, like you get two guys that know what they're doing, give them bigger guns, and then you just get like six rednecks to pay 20 grand and potentially shoot pirates around the Horn of Africa. 20 grand? I don't know. 50 grand.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

You might be able to get 50. Oh, 50 grand. Yeah, I think there's enough crazy motherfuckers that would do that. Think of all the peeling on the safaris for like elephants and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Yeah, but you also like you also got to consider you want people that are willing to fight back. Because some of those safari people, like, they get charged by a lion or elephant or whatever they're stealing tusks from. Yeah, they panic and they get scared because they've got a lot to live for.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Isn't that what the point of the guy with the bigger gun is?

SPEAKER_02 5:30

Yeah, but pirates are scary. And occasionally they get on the boat because you suck and you can't aim very well. That's what the water cannon's for. No, but the fuck, the water cannon, they've already got past the boat, Greg. The water cannon shoots in the water. What are you gonna do? Fucking spray. I'm not an expert on pirates. No, you just have this vision of the fucking Navy and shit, and a bunch of dudes out there in thongs spraying each other with water guns. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Top name. Yeah, he tried to join the Navy back in the day, but they said no. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

They wouldn't longer do it.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

Yeah. Damn. You were too fabulous for me.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

I was too fabulous. Water guns and male thongs.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

I think I could say fabulous. If that's a reel,

House Parties, Hosting Chaos, And Cleanup

SPEAKER_02 6:10

it shouldn't get banned just for being fabulous. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

So maybe we should reel this back in. Hey, the last two weeks have been absolutely bonkers.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Yeah, essentially. And that's why this is coming to you late.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Yeah, he had a hundred people here for his house. About 150. His wife was so mad.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

Yeah, we're not allowed to do that anymore.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

Yeah, we got in trouble.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

I have a 50 person limit. I can only have 50 friends.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

Yeah. We made a mess. It wasn't too bad, but it we had it was bad. He's saying it's not too bad because he doesn't want Britney to see this, but no, I mean it was and no one was disrespectful.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

It's just when you have 150 people and trying to keep them outside. Like if we could do because didn't it just rain before that too?

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Yeah. It rained.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

I'm glad that it quit raining that day. Because imagine 100 well, honestly, if 150 people were inside, upstairs, downstairs, it probably because the only thing that got messed up was like that white carpet right up this room that got a little bit, you know, locked on. So dirty shoes. And then just a shit ton of food. You spilt grease all over the place. We all did it this time. There's a new grease spots. But other than that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

We cooked a thousand pounds of bacon. A lot of freaking bacon. Dude, I've never seen that much grease in my life before.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

Oh, yeah, that was a breakfast. Because after that we did the stir-fry, but that was only like 35 people.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

I think that was a number. Somewhere between like 30 and 50.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

Yeah, because we had way too much food for the stir-fry.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Yeah. And then you guys wanted to like, uh, you guys should take some. Thanks for hosting. And it sat in my fridge for like three days and made my fruit stink before we finally threw it out.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

So he didn't eat any of the leftovers.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

I don't eat leftovers. I'm not a peasant.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Cool.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

Yeah. I only eat fresh, fresh foods. So you got the Somaleon Pirates. Why did you bring the Somaleon Pirates up? Did you have somewhere to go with that?

SPEAKER_01 8:02

No one can go with it, man. Everyone seems to be talking about it. PBD was, Trump was, Joe Rogan. I mean, all his guys have been talking about the last three days. Permanent

Biohacking: NAD IVs, TRT, And Side Effects

SPEAKER_01 8:12

eating the cats. So I was like, dude, we could talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

Oh, you know what? I was listening to Rogan on. It's the last episode of Rogan, and this was December 2nd, if anyone's actually trying to find this. He had some he has some like nutritionist dude on who was like breaking down all the cool stuff that I use, the methylene blue and NAD and that. And he was smarter than I was, so I believe him now.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

Dude, have you ever done an NAD IV? I did one. Uh what night was that two nights ago? I was dead. I was just laying there getting the IV done, and I was just head back. Oh, sorry, you're gonna say you push it too fast. No, I did. Yeah, that makes it bad. It was that you know how it's supposed to be a drip, like drip, drip. You ever see a stream? Mine was a stream and it was just flowing. It hits you in the heart. And I was just dude, and my chest was compacting. It was not good. And I was sitting on the couch and I was just zoned out. Luckily staring up at the sky. Once you slow it down, it stops pretty quick. I didn't slow it down until it ran out. It took me 750 milligrams, I think is how it works milliliters of NAD. I did it in 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

That's pretty quick. 750 will take me an hour and a half to two.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Yeah, I did it in 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

Because that's an uncomfortable feeling, dude. It feels like you're straight gonna die.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

Yeah, my chest was compacting. I was like, my I felt like I had a runny nose.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm in so much pain. You just push through it. I just pushed through it. Yeah. I was talking to your, I won't drop their name because I don't want to expose them, but he's a smart guy that I would trust. And talking to him about that, and apparently there's like no actual harm to your body from pushing it fast because they were doing it in their clinic and they were actually forced pushing the IV just to see if they can handle it. Yeah. I was like, screw that. Like I'm pretty tough, but I've done it a few times and I do not like that feeling.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

I feel great after the fact. Yeah, it's it's a good but during it, when you're going that quick, I was like, oh my, never again. I'm not doing that again. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

No, I like the NAD. Brittany uses the the NAD, but it's mixed with a something or rather, some substance that allows your body to actually absorb it orally versus that. And she says it's pretty good. I'm too I'm too inconsistent with vitamins and that type of crap to get on it. I'd forget it too much.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

The only thing Jonathan remembers to take is his testosterone.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

And that's because if he does it, he wants to kill somebody.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

Yeah. Or if I get out of balance.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

Yeah, seen that.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

I got rid of the estrogen pillow. Feel a lot better after that.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

Got off of it?

SPEAKER_02 10:38

Uh-huh. I haven't. I mean I think I took one three weeks ago when you were here, but that was the first time. That was the only time I've taken one in two months.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

Yeah, I haven't taken one in three months.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

Yeah. Someone told me just you know, shoot testosterone twice a month or twice a week instead of once a week, and it should balance it a little bit and then allow your body not to break it down into estrogen as much. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

I just work out a lot.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Yeah, that that can help, but that also makes it break down a little quicker. What about let's talk peptides because people want to hear about peptides. Dude, honestly, this this little podcast

Peptides, Sources, Allergies, And Stacks

SPEAKER_02 11:10

will probably go well.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

I'm sticking myself, I feel like five times a day.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Stick, stick, stick.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

What do you mean? With all the peptides. And this is not medical advice, by the way. Melanotan, uh, NAV, BCP, Reditrutide. How long is it on Reditrutide? Like four months, nine months. No, not that long. Like two months. This is my second one. On my second day. Yeah, he's on day two. Guess who's his supplier of Redatrutide?

unknown 11:37

This guy.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

You probably shouldn't say that. You're not my supplier, but you get it. Well, I guess they're not illegal. They're not. They're peptides. They're just peptides. They're not FDA. Well, this one's not FDA perked yet. It will be. Redatrutide.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

A super drug. Click the affiliate link if you want it. Right below. Reditrutide. Some asshole looking for it. Yeah, they'll find it on the podcast. Hey, reditrutide, absolutely amazing. But I do feel like because you're not supposed to mix your peptides, that I'm consistently shooting myself with a needle. And that doesn't include testosterone, because I do testosterone once a week.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

Testamorlins every night, an hour before bed, an hour after eating. I'm allergic to that one, I think. Redatuttides once a week, BCPs twice a day. I do once in the morning, once a night.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

God dang.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

And I take NAD as a peptide every day, too.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

And they told us as kids.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

And the lanotans do from needles. Yeah, I inject myself more now than that's crazy. I think they just wanted us to be weak. Yeah, I don't know. I just, it's just every day, just it's weird. You eject all of them into the gut? Yes. Well, the BCP goes in my knee one time, my gut the other time, and the testamorlin's there. So testosterone's in my thigh. So I'm just kind of moving all over. You know. I take a lot of peptides. Trap marks. What do you guys? Do you guys take on peptides? I know he tries to. You should have seen him. He almost died off taking peptides.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Yeah. It was either Tesla Morlin or CJC 1295. One of those two I'm allergic to.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

I think he just got like an off-brand, you know, like from the dollar store.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Well, I mean, I got you know, witch.com. You could save a butt getting them there. Timu. Yeah, Timu.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

Whatever it is.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Timu America.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Yeah, that's where he ordered it from. I'm like, dude, you don't want to order peptides from Timu, but he did, and then he had an allergic reaction, and who would guess?

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Whatever, dude. They all come from China.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Now he's like, I don't want to take it anymore. It's like, dude, just take the real stuff.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

No, I took real stuff for anyone paying attention this long. But I don't know. It could have been something goofy because I've taken that compound before.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Dude, I don't know, man. I'm not a doctor. I'd tell you to try it again now.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

I don't know, dude. That shit was bad. I've never been allergic to anything in the world. And that shit sucked. I have never been so swollen and itchy and hot in my life.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

Well, I bet he has when he used to drink a lot, because if you saw his old picture, he's like swollen like a little tick.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

No, dude, that's I was fatter from swelling up than I was from being fat.

unknown 14:08

Bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

My face was fat. I don't like it. Luckily, I didn't have any breathing problems. That would really suck.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Don't you take methyl blue too or methylene blue?

SPEAKER_02 14:14

Methylene blue. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's where I was going with this. So the dude I was listening

Methylene Blue, Dosing, And Genetics

SPEAKER_02 14:18

to on Roman's podcast, I wish I fucking remembered his name. But apparently methylene blue can be very good and very bad. And it just depends on some sort of something else in your body, how it methylates it or whatever. And then if it doesn't one way, it actually hurts you. And if it does it in another way, it's beneficial to you.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

So how do you supposed to know if it's good or bad?

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Well, I did that gen genetic methylation test. So now I need to go listen to the podcast again and figure out what gene marker he was talking about. So I can go look up that gene and see if I should take methylene blue. Because all it does is really just turn your piss blue. It's pretty cool. Have you taken it?

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

High dosage?

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Not like super high. So it's like one little drop, like a couple six this eight drops a day.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

So that's probably five units of however they measure it, milliliters or whatever. But apparently, when you start pushing like 20 plus milliliters, that's what so methylene blue is apparently the first like drug that ever existed. And I could be getting this completely wrong, and I'm taking my knowledge from Rogan, so if it's wrong, blame him, not me. And if I'm, you know, not quoting him correct, that's on him too. He wasn't specific. But apparently, methylene blue was one of the first drugs ever administered as a drug. And yes, it came as a closed eye first, and then they started using it as a drug, and it was used to treat depression. So at a high dosage, it treats like depression and stuff and can jack you up if that if that's not what you're looking for. Plus, it makes your insides blue.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

Dude, there's some crazy peptides. Like that one you take, that the one I take that makes me tan?

SPEAKER_02 15:47

Oh, melanotan or melanotan. Yeah, melanotan. I don't need that. I'm just beautifully tan. If I go to the case.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

If you haven't tried peptides at all, get on peptides. It's like the knee thing.

SPEAKER_02 15:57

That's what is brought to you by peptides.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Soma chems. Now we need a peptide sponsor.

Shoes, Money, Snow Duty, And Weather Grit

SPEAKER_01 16:05

We do. That and an energy drink sponsor.

unknown 16:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

I could also go for some new shoes. What do you order? Uh uh, what are I don't know, Nike something? Where'd you get those? Online. I don't know what they're called. Jumpman Jats or something nonsense.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

They're definitely the Walmart special.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Yeah. Tamboo. Oh, they got the backward smoothie too. That means they're fancy. I guess. I don't know shoes that well. What those cost? Like 300 bucks. That's not bad. 400 bucks. Maybe more. I don't know. You'd have to look them up. I forgot the name of them, too. They got this little smiley face on the back of them, though.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

Yeah, they're the uh cactus jack, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Yeah, there you go. See, I don't even know shoes. He knows shoes.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

I just got one pair because I'm hip now.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Yeah, but his one pair is like $1,500.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

There's like $13 caps. No, that's what happens when people call you out for being poor. Screw you. I'm not poor. Actually, I liked them.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

I bought them at one of our events.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

Yeah, I normally I looked them up on Chalpax, though. That's what they were going for. I paid a fair price. I think you did that actually first.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

Yeah, I did it because I was like, oh, let's see what they're worth. I'm like, oh, you can buy them for the same price online. Oh, I can get them right now.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

I took an hour to talk myself into it.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

And then he's walking around with them every event day now. So pretty much.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

No, I wear them. I just wear them these normal shoes now. I'm not freaking buying a special. I mean, they're black, so they don't really scuff too bad. Yeah. Like my white Louis V's I only wear on event days, and they're pretty much toast now. They're dirty. I can't even have white shoes.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

That's why I bought these.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

Yeah, white shoes are a bad idea. I need to buy another brown black pair of nice shoes. Because I don't like wearing uh dress shoes anymore.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

Oh neither. I haven't weared dress shoes since I moved down here. Got rid of them, threw them all the way. See ya.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

I got a few pairs. I got like two pair of colons that I probably bat bought like my last two or three months at being in a dealership, so they hadn't been destroyed yet.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

Truth.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

I used to go through like probably 10, 15 colhons a year.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Man, you know what I don't miss? Speaking of the dealership, snow duty.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

Yeah, we only snowed like once a year.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Dude, they just got like two feet back home and they're sending me pictures, and I was like, I don't miss that shit.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Yeah, because you guys would have to like go out and wipe it off cars.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

Yeah. It would collect. And then you don't know, you don't have anywhere to put it. It's just all over the lot. We had to do that in the military, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Alaska.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

I don't know if that dude. Because my shoes would get destroyed. You couldn't even have nice shoes there because they get covered in salt and snow and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

You bring boots?

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Dude, it's a car business, man. You guys were retarded. Yep. Okay. Some people don't even wear gloves or hats. They're just like, that would hurt. We're gonna do this. Let's go outside and shovel snow.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

Yeah, that would not be about that life. No, dude. Does Iowa snow a lot? Kind of depends on the year. Does it stick around or is it heat back in?

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Oh no, it sticks around. They'll probably have the snow for like a couple weeks. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

That's how Alaska was. Once it started snowing and got icy, like it you didn't go away. Yeah, you didn't see the ground for four or five months. Yeah, it never goes away. It's really weird because in Alaska, it's I mean, just the whole state becomes a sheet of ice during the winter. And they just plow to the ice, so even the roads are got a nice thing of ice. You get used to walking on ice and then all of a sudden it'll start drying out and you'll hit a thing of like fresh pavement or dry pavement and just trick. It's freaking rough.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

I don't want to live in Alaska.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Did you guys live wear like spikies on your shoes?

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Like yak tracks or something? It was a cover deal shit, man. They don't want to, they don't want to spend the money on yaks.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

I mean, you could spend money on your yaks.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Mm-mm. I drove the plow. I was in the plow truck or the little bobcat moving snow.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Yeah, we had a plow humvey. That was fun. I didn't really know how to use it. I mean, I knew how to like push snow, but I'm sure there's like a system for plower people. Like Homer Simpson knew a system.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

I could see that.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

The Simpsons can also predict the future.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

That is true.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

So.

Immigration Rants And “Leaving” Hard Places

SPEAKER_02 19:46

Did they predict the Somalians? Probably. We gotta go back and watch The Simpsons. There's gonna be an episode that comes up. Alright, so let's talk. Somalians, America, and so what do you think of the Somalian thing? Dude, we're going back to this? Yep. Because I want to know you brought it up, and now you keep avoiding it.

SPEAKER_01 20:05

I was just bringing up conversation.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Well, this is the conversation we're having.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Dude, lock kick him out. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Cut him off.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

Well, and then homeboy, Daddy Trump. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Papa Trump.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

Told me I can call him Don if I want. So Don recently, I guess, put something out there where he banned third world countries from immigrating. Perfect. Well, it's going to be like a system now. Like you've got to go from Somalia, and then I think from Somalia, you can maybe go to Ecuador. And then Ecuador, you can jump over to like a Western European nation and then America.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

So you have to like go through uh like some challenges.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

Yeah, you have to go from like third world and then like 2.5 just to get a test and see how you like you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Well it's funny he just dropped uh they just had their cabinet meeting, and Trump was like, I don't want to take shitty people from shitty countries. There's a reason why they live in Somalia.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

Yeah, I mean, I I mean I I think there's probably good people there, maybe. I mean, I watched Black Ops Down. There's not many.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

But like if they are, they're probably not there.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

What do you think of that though? Because I've tried to I've tried to think of that. Because I think you could pretty much do whatever you want in this world, but I mean I also live in America. Dude, if I was there, I'd be out.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

I wouldn't stay. What would we stay for? But do you think you could actually just leave? Yes. They can get to Minnesota, they can't just leave and go to like Ecuador. Okay, so why do they stay? That's a good question.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

Because I think it's the same question on a on a like macro, yeah, macro level that we deal with on a micro level. Like we pretty much deal with, I'd say, 95% Americans, sales business, and in America. I mean, you pretty much if if you're poor in America, it's your damn fault. 100%. It is your freaking fault if you're broke in America because there isn't education out there. I don't know. So isn't that same logic apply to them? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Like, what do you mean figure it out?

SPEAKER_01 22:09

You just said it. But but are they really restrictive? Dude, they can do anything they want. They can go rob a ship, they can go be in a gang, they can leave. I think he's giving them too much credit. Then what keeps you there? They don't have the balls to leave. They like it. They like something about it.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Do they not have the balls or do they not have the education or no withal? Is that a word? I'm not very educated either, and I figured it out.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

I mean, okay, so let's just say they don't have the education, right? Or maybe they're just indoctrinated at a young age that they should be in gang and that they should be doing that kind of stuff. Because that's usually what it is. That I'm assuming. I'm not assuming that someone who grows up who's educated and smart is like, I'm staying some all there with the pirates, they get out. But when you grow up, it's like the whole nature versus nurture bullshit, right? But can you just leave? Yes.

Rebrand Tease And Platform Notes

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Can you just like, you know, for the last four years, you could just come across the border.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

I mean, he's like, he's like sitting here. I don't know. But but how would you do it? You're dirt poor, you're in Somalia. I mean, you can like if you wanted to do shit a legal way. And I don't know Somalian loss, but I do know there are countries that will take refugees. Yeah, refugees left and right. And, you know, we know people. I mean, like Patrick Ben David talks a lot about it. He was a refugee from Iran during the Assad days and shit like that. If I thought long enough, I could probably think of a couple other people that have

Moon Landing, Aliens, And Simulation Theory

SPEAKER_02 23:40

stories like that that have done big things. So, okay, so you're in Somalia and you decide you want to leave for political asylum or whatever. You go seek asylum or refugee status in some other state or country. So you go to that state, let's say you're broke, you want to do things legally, so you can't board a ship or a train illegally. You just gotta like what's next to Somalia? I mean, Egypt's in that area, right? I don't know. Do you have a map? No, my phone's recorded.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Here, let me see.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Where's Somalia? Because Somalia's like north, and I could be wrong, but it's like Northeast Africa. Map of Somalia. Right there on the maps.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

See, so is it northeast? They're right by like Yemen and Ethiopia and Kenya, Tanzania. Okay, so from my understanding, a bunch of shitholes. Omen. They're close to Saudi Arabia.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

Yeah, they're like Northeast Africa, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Yeah, like but it's more east. Like they're on the horn, like they're on the point of Africa. Okay, so I'm kind of in the right area.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Yeah. Okay, so you're there. So, I mean, are you within semi-reason of getting to South Africa? I mean, it'd be the same equivalent of going from New York to Florida. Okay. But I mean, you're all connected by landmass.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

You can get over to Europe and Italy and you could get to Saudi Arabia easier than you could get to South Africa.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

So do the Saudi Arabians take him in? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

So we asked Chad GBT?

SPEAKER_02 25:07

I don't know. I'm just trying to help out because I believe if I could help a Somalian get out of Somalia and start a business eventually in America, but he's still gotta do his Egypt time, he's gotta do his Great Britain time. Just a test. Well they have to prove that they're not just you know but then if he stays in Great Britain too long, he gets institutionalized to their bullshit, so I don't want him. So they're screwed. I think he'll spend some time in Poland. We'll take him after Poland. What about like Czechoslovakia or something?

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Sweden. Like the Czech Republic? Yeah, Norway. What about some Eastern European countries? Hungary. Dude. Budapest.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

That's two cities. With a river going through.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

So Hungary. Turkey. I think where there's a will, there's a way. If they want to leave, they can leave.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

Even for Somalians.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

I think for anybody. What about North Koreans?

SPEAKER_01 26:12

Yes. You hear about them leaving all the time.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

It's a little more risky. It is. Kim Jong-un is not about that lifestyle. No, but you can leave. Same with like what if North Korea is actually a pretty badass place? Have you ever been there? No.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

You know you can go there, right?

SPEAKER_02 26:29

They are actually bringing people to golf on his golf course, amateur golfers right now.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

So you want to sign up?

SPEAKER_02 26:35

No. Because it's also controlled while you're there.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

And I want to see them fucking aliens.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

I've heard it's actually pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 26:44

Yeah, I've heard it's cool, like what they'll show you and allow you to, you know, be a tourist on. But I've heard that if you go away from that area, it's a shithole. But is that just what we're being told?

SPEAKER_01 26:55

I don't know. We were told COVID is real.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

Only if you listen to the morons. So just let me know. Like trust the science. What science? It's theirs. Shut the fuck up. The only science is it's not that bad.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

We're gonna get shadow banned.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

I always have to be careful what reels we post. The nice thing about long form, like the podcast itself, like this can all go there. Oh, we gotta change the name of the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Oh, we do. Name change coming.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

Yeah, name change coming because someone on Apple wants to have the name that we thought a pretty common good name. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

And he's got like 300 episodes, but he definitely stole her name.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

Yeah, nobody knows him. We gotta change that. But we're on Spotify, so if you're listening to this, you're probably uh listening on Spotify or my stupid real, and for some reason that made a cut. Okay. So let's talk about what all men want to know. Are aliens real? I don't think anyone wants to know. The fuck they do. I have this conversation with all okay. We're gonna start basic, Greg, and this is just gonna be to test your intelligence as a man. Are you ready? Yes. Did we land on the moon? No. Okay, good. You're smart. Can you argue that we did?

SPEAKER_01 28:10

Dude, I knocking out. I can't argue it anyway.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

You can argue it that we didn't. It's easy to argue we didn't.

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SPEAKER_02 28:16

None of that shit makes sense. Fucking argument done. Someone argue with me, other than some bullshit NASA footage, a phone call that works better than our cell phones in 2026. You can't argue that we did. And we lost the m we we lost the uh technology and the freaking data to get there that just disappeared. We got AI now that's like coding shit in 30 seconds that took humans years to do, and we can't figure out how to do it again. Yeah, China hasn't done it, they've you know crashed up with rockets in it. They didn't want to just be like, ah, let's show the US we can do it too, or the Russians, yeah, or like you know, the Van Allen belt.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

John's always down for a good conspiracy.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

It's because it doesn't make sense. Have you read the book of Ewok yet?

SPEAKER_01 29:01

No.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

God dang. Have I told you to read that yet?

SPEAKER_01 29:04

No. Oh otherwise, I would have read it.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

Do you know what it is?

SPEAKER_01 29:07

No.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

When you hear Ewok, I think of little dude from Star Wars. That was an Ewok.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

I could be screwed up the name, but I'm pretty sure that's right. So the Book of Ewok was one of the six books removed from the Bible years and years ago. And honestly, it makes the Bible make like more logical sense. Like you don't have to Book of Ewok. Ewok, Enoch? See what it is. Just so I can say it right. I think it's Enoch. Enoch. So it talks a lot about like different creatures and stuff being here, and it just it makes things. Is it Enoch?

SPEAKER_01 29:47

I mean the book of Enoch is an ancient Jewish apocalyptic religious text described by Enoch.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

Yeah, Enoch.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

E-N-O-C-A-C-C. Okay. I was right at. Read that shit.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

It looks like old scripture on the front. That's one version of it.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

Read it. Looks like I'm reading the book of Enoch.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

Dude, it proves that them aliens were here. Reading the book

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SPEAKER_02 30:15

of Enoch. Yeah, it's got some extra terrestrial life. I don't know. It'll make a lot of stuff make sense, and then you'll question yourself, why did they remove it? And I think it was removed before King James. Because King James got rid of two books just so he could remarry that silly guy.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

I'm sure you could chat GPT and get the answer. Oh no, Grok, it's way more fun on Grok. Really? Mm-hmm. I don't have Grok. I gotta get Grok. Yeah, just way too much AI between Poppy, ChatGPT.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Yeah, I've got hooked on Poppy now.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

Opus clip.

SPEAKER_02 30:48

Opus clip. Which is where you're watching this reel from. Opusclip.com. This will be a 99 round Opus Clip. This little clip. It probably will be. Now you just gotta say a like really good hook. Something like Do you have a lot of people? Have you ever struggled and in your reels? Get Opus Clip. Yeah. Have you ever struggled getting hard? Opus clip. Oh, wait, that was Viagra. They need to be more direct at the Viagra commercials or Cialis.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

You know what's funny since he's talking about this is you were talking the other day about three truths and a lie. Oh, yeah, that's a good time. Yeah, and the pharmaceutical companies. And I was like, shit. I was like, that's so true. Because even when you're doing sales and you talk about it and you say three truths, and then the last one's a lie, they're like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Well, it's three truths and the fourth one's always true.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

So if you can get someone to agree to three subtle things that they don't have to think about too much, it basically puts them into a trance where they're just ready to listen to whatever fourth bullshit you say. And more than likely, whatever you say fourth, they will assume it's a truth.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

Yeah. So it was like, I think use the example of do you have low energy? Are you unhappy? Are you sad?

SPEAKER_02 31:54

Yeah,

9/11, Tower Seven, And Media Skepticism

SPEAKER_02 31:55

are you sad motivated in the morning?

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Yeah. And it's like you could be depressed. And they're like, oh shit, I'm depressed because that's me. And then bam, they're on depression medication. It's called being an adult. So it is called being an adult. Yep. Are you soft? Can you not take care of people? Do you not get hard?

SPEAKER_02 32:16

You might be a limp dick, son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

You could use some biagram. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

We're good at Cialis. Yeah. More of that vein pump. I'm not really veiny right now. Dude.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Went from Cialis to Veins. But so it's three truths and the fourth one's true. That's what it is. Three and one. Trying to remember. He's teaching all these new guys at work, and they're just like mind blown. Well, it's mostly to screw with them.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

Why? It's fun. Have you tried bullying? I mean. It makes you feel better about yourself.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

I have a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 32:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

I tagged Sean Sanabria. Well, and bullying helps people. Like you're doing pretty well. I mean, that's true. Did I bully you for ever? Yeah, the first three months were kind of rough. I didn't bully you the first three months. I neglected you. The first three months were kind of rough. The first three months.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

Yeah, but I neglected you because all those lists. But you had to earn your shit.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

I was like.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

And then after that, you earned your shit. And then it was like, all right, you have now upgraded to bullying. Yeah, that's true. And I don't know when you upgrade past bullying. Still there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

Every day. You're kind of mean too, though. You've gotten better at it. Every day it's something's going on there. Just like tagging people when they're late to the gym and I tag Andy in it. And then Andy responds with a heart message. I'm like, don't be late to the gym. Yeah, that's a good way to peer pressure people. Got him.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

I don't really post much gym stuff.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Dude, you just you gotta post live content. That's what you have to post.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

I got a new uh speaking of live content. I got a new garage setup. Maybe I'll I'll I'll film myself doing squats from that good, you know, upward angle.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

This is what I'm doing with Jonathan today. Jonathan. Are we live or are you just doing that as a story? Yeah, it's a story. Doing this with old Johnny. Boy, people want to see that.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

People want to see the behind the scenes footage.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Yeah, we're behind the scenes right now.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

Behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

This is a fully unscripted episode. 100%. We're just rolling.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Uh just bullshit and seeing what comes. And you know, Greg doesn't want to talk conspiracy theories. I do. He wants to bring up Somaliens, doesn't really want to share his opinions. It's kind of going nowhere, Greg.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

I do like talking about conspiracy theories. Well then talk about one. JFK assassination.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

JFK assassination.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Oh, World Trade Center. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

Yeah, that's a new one that I realized.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Jonathan's been going down that rabbit hole a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

See? Doesn't even make sense. Like, did you see just tagged you? Did you see that crappy that plane that crashed in India about six months ago? Yeah, that was a little bit. Landed on like a two-story mud hut and just held it. Yeah. Yeah. And our seal buildings won't. And there's gonna be some engineer that's like, but shut up. It makes no sense. And then world uh tower seven just magically fell by itself. That's where it's like you can't convince me a series of unfortunate events happened where the steel melted and bent and magic happened and the whole building fell down. Like there was that plane that hit the Russian skyscraper the other day.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

A couple months ago. You the freaking building didn't even move. They're huge. And then you're telling me that Tower 7 just tumbled.

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SPEAKER_02 35:20

And that that one dude took out the, you know, two insurance or the insurance premiums right before it. The Pentagon was missing four trillion dollars from their budget. George Bush was still mad because his dad got his ass whooped in Desert Storm or whatever. Not dad directly, but a million other things. Maybe it wasn't Desert Storm, something to do with Saddam Hussein. Oil prices went down a little bit. After a while, they went up and then they went down. Like it doesn't no, it doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_01 35:49

The math ain't mathing, that's what I would say.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

Now, is it Massad or is it CIA? Or are you not willing to say it's Massad because you don't want to die?

SPEAKER_01 35:56

Dude, I'm I plead the fifth.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Have you seen the new Charlie Kirk shit?

SPEAKER_01 36:00

Dude, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Candace Owens is insane on that. Yes. Like I don't I don't even know where to go on this one because it's too new and I really haven't researched it and studied it. But I mean, there's obviously there's always the Mossad being involved. There were apparently like six Egyptians that jumped on a jet, like a private jet that same day and got out of Dodge. Candace Owens is saying his wife's involved somehow, but then his dad links back to never mind. I'm totally gonna get banned off if I go off on this one. Yeah, yeah, don't do it yet. Okay. Save it for another episode.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Yeah, I gotta wait till we need to read about it more. That's what we need to do. Yeah, I need to educate myself. We need to read about it. But dude, I can tell you, I'm educated enough. She is like She's right about a lot of shit. Going crazy, man.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

You know who else is scary, right? Alex. Uh, who's the guy that got sued for a billion? Or was it a it was a billion. Alex. He got sued because of the Sandy Hook shooting, but everything else that guy says is right. He just really fucked up the Sandy Hook thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:58

Alex uh I can't remember his last name.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

Damn it. I know who you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

Yeah. He's intense. The fat guy. Mm-hmm. Because he's right about a lot of stuff. Just not that. That was bad of him. And then there was there's a oh, but the Charlie Cook thing, there's like that text thread that came out where some donor of some certain thing took away two million because he was against Israel's actions or something. Yeah, I gotta read into that more.

SPEAKER_01 37:27

That'll be a future episode.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

The Charlie Cook conspiracy theory episode. Doesn't sound like a good episode. That sounds like I'm gonna take a bullet.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

We'll just do a random, we'll title it something different, like talking about kids going back to school or something, and it'll be about it.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Yeah, it'll be like a hook. Yeah, a hook. What do they call that? I'm like catfish people. Yeah, we're gonna catfish people into the episode.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

How to make sure your kids get straight A is the easy way. Yes. By the way, you know the moon landing was fake. Do you talk to your kids about that yet? About what? Like the conspiracy. Like, so Holland the other day came home with some. Dude, my kid's six. I don't care. You want them to grow up dumb? Frickin'. What are you waiting for?

SPEAKER_01 38:08

She still believes in Santa.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

Oh. See? That's where you you gotta you gotta up it a little bit. Like, let her believe in Santa, but also give her the know that you'll take Santa out if you know he crosses a line. Or she does. And then you can use that against her for at least three or four more years if you do play your cards right. But yeah, Holland was bringing up something with something they're learning in school. What was it? I want to say it was the moon landing. And she had to write a report on it. And I said, What did you write a report on? And she goes, About how NASA did this, this, and that. And

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SPEAKER_02 38:40

I go, they never did any of that. She goes, What? I'm like, yeah, that's all fake.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

Did you have her rewrite the report and do it in school?

SPEAKER_02 38:45

No, because the teachers are institutionalized. They've been part of the government system for a while. They I don't how how could you, with half a brain, believe in it? That's a statement I make. Or I'm I don't stand on that. Like and I've asked many people this because I just like having debate and messing with people and it entertains me. It's like give me a logical argument that shows that we landed on the moon.

SPEAKER_01 39:17

There's a flag there.

SPEAKER_02 39:20

Yeah, but anything could have placed that there. Like they've crashed it into it. They've I mean, I I don't think we haven't been on it. I don't think we've gotten humans there.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

There's footprints on it.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Isn't there something to do with like the footprints on the moon are different than the ones that the astronaut boot that uh Neil Armstrong wore? Or like every time someone talks to, like, if you ever watch like the interviews of someone walking up on Neil Armstrong and asking, you won't talk about it. Like, one, good job giving that guy's top secret clearance because he he understands the assignment and also they'll kill him. But like we have and then like Area 51, you know, we got aliens and alien technology. That's pretty cool. You know, humans have been around for how long have we been around, supposedly? A long time. 20,000 years, 200,000 years, 100,000, something like that. We finally got some alien alien technology. Yeah, like 200 years ago, we were still like trying to figure out how to build a fire with a fucking stick, and now we've got AI. Do you know? Do you know why, Greg? There's only one possible reason that any of this makes any sense.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

I guess because of aliens.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Aliens are part of it, but it's because we're living in a simulation.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

The matrix.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

Like, you ever play the game Sims?

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:36

You ever wear that game? Okay. That's all we're living in. Like, it is an advanced game of Sims on an advanced system that they figured out how to control emotions, and maybe you do get a little bit more free will. I don't, but in Sims, they get free will, but there's more advanced. So, like in Sims, they just end up going and petting the cat for six hours. And our thing, we pet the cat for three hours, and then we do a bunch of other weird shit. So, if you think about it, it makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

I don't know where it's going.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

And it adds up.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

Like, how do you live from the matrix here?

SPEAKER_02 41:12

The life that you live is, yes, slightly by your

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SPEAKER_02 41:15

choice. However, if I wanted and I was your player, I had to drop a rough on you, like a big boulder. Bam, Greg's dead. What's preventing that from happening when you drive back to wherever the hell you go after this?

SPEAKER_01 41:27

Like a meteor comes in and bam, Greg's dead.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

And then you think the Somalian pirates can escape, but they can't. Because they've got the person, it probably a 14-year-old alien who's bored and just wanting to create destruction. Because you did that on Sims AK. You're just like, how much can I fuck some shit up?

SPEAKER_00 41:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

Everyone's cheating on everyone, and that's like just a competitor.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

And then you entered the code tomato and got like a million dollars, so you just built a house they got less than.

SPEAKER_00 41:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

And you build such a massive house when they wouldn't know how to get out of it or fucking.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

Elon's player is freaking smart. He's just like control C, but whatever it was, something you could do like that.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

Gave them a few billion dollars, you know, built some new car. This is advanced sim, so they can build, you know, create and in mint. It's pretty cool. And someone's just, you know, playing your life. But the thing is, I say it's someone, but it's not someone, it's just AI. So what had happened is there's probably the society that built the pyramids. So this is probably a couple hundred, three hundred, four hundred thousand dollars. Like, if anyone thinks the Egyptians built the pyramids, they're they're stupid. Like the Egyptians, 3,000 years ago, had technology more or had precision more modern than we do today, but that doesn't make sense. They didn't build them, they found them. So there was another civilization hundreds of years before that, like to the point where steel and all this stuff can decay and disappear. That civilization was more advanced than us. That civilization had gotten to the point where it created an AI type thing that actually took over and started to have thoughts on its own. And that AI has now created us for its simulation, and our job is to now create AI to take over our lives and move us to the next level. And then there's gonna be a fire and then extinction. And then this little itty bitty chip deep inside the mountains, one day, is gonna be found.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

So Jonathan didn't take his testosterone today. Oh, he did. I did last night.

SPEAKER_02 43:24

I think I upped it a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 43:25

That's what that's yeah. He's off on one right now. Holy shit. Yeah. She's way off in the deep end. Do you want me to throw you a life raft?

SPEAKER_02 43:34

Does your fucking version make any more sense than mine? I mean at least mine's got like trust the science.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

Yeah, I guess we're just all in a simulation of the matrix here.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

Oh, super fun. I'm actually like I'm kind of grateful for my player duties. Not bad. I mean, you know, it could do a couple things.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

Reminds me of that movie where they are prisoners and they and you play the prisoner, and if you get him to win so much, he gets out of prison for free. I never played that game. You never did? It's not a game, it's a movie. I forget what it's called though.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

Oh, is that the is that the one where they have to kill each other? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

And then after they win so many races or do something like that Hunger Games? No, because you're playing as them. Like you're like, do you bet on your prisoner? No, but like you would play as the guy and he'd control him and shoot him and stuff. Maybe I've never and they kill each other. I haven't seen that movie. That's kind of what like you're describing. You ever read the book The Most Dangerous Game? A long, long time ago.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

The one where they go to the island and hunt other people?

SPEAKER_01 44:34

Yeah. That was a long, long time ago. Somalia.

SPEAKER_02 44:38

No, the U.S. Army. And right now we're recruiting with a $40,000 signing bonus.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

There's a link in the bio.

SPEAKER_02 44:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

Click my U.S. Army affiliate links. Yeah, click the affiliate link.

SPEAKER_02 44:50

Why don't the recruiters do that?

SPEAKER_01 44:52

Just give a bunch of high school high schoolers like affiliate links to go out and recruit. I mean, just think we're getting we're getting we're getting peptides. We're getting poppy AI. We're getting what else? So the army should ever jump on.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

Freaking Smith Machines, Smith Machine Squat Rack, I have to do that. Oh, the whoop bands.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

I've got like almost a year for free now. Oh yeah. But I'm gonna want a new one. See, I don't even look into crap like that though. I usually don't either, but I was like, oh, that's your band, and I was like, yeah, here's my one. And then they just over they just bought off my link. So if you don't have a whoop band, get a whoop band. You can join our community.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Did you get like a free month when I joined EOS?

SPEAKER_01 45:32

No. Did you put my number in there? Maybe I did. I gave them your name and email. Maybe I did get a free month or something. I have no idea, man. I think it says it on the wall.

SPEAKER_02 45:42

If you sign up three people, you get a free year.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

Yeah.

unknown 45:44

Huh.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Who else can we get to go from work? That's what we need to do.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

Yeah. Encourage other people to wake up at ridiculous ass early. Yeah. Dude, today was another day I didn't want to go.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

That's every day for Jonathan.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

No, there's some days I wake up and I'm like, this isn't bad. Today I was like, screw this.

SPEAKER_01 45:59

What time do you get in the office after that? Right at 6?

SPEAKER_02 46:01

6 30? Got there at like 5 55 or something.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

I got home and I was just struggling. I don't have my meal prepped for the week. So I was like, I had to cook breakfast and lunch, and I was just out of it. It took like an hour to cook four steaks and rice and corn.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

Oh, yeah. Because I was the first one there today. Yeah. And usually you're sometimes I'll beat you, but usually you're there. I'm usually there right at six.

SPEAKER_01 46:27

Yeah. Like right at six. But I had to cook four steaks, eight things of rice, and put it into lunch bowls.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Oh, I fixed my barbecue so I can cook steak now. For lunch. Because the guy who was playing my character in the simulation screwed up my propane tank. Fucked it up. Got it from wish.com or something.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

It was leaking gas really bad.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

Yeah. I don't like him. Shouldn't do that. All right, what else are we going to talk about? We've got a couple more minutes.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

Dude, I have no idea. We've been so we've been like busy for like the last three weeks have been a freaking blur between an event every weekend, and we have another event this weekend. But for the last three weekends, we had events. And then people come into the event because the events are early Saturday, so they come in on Wednesday. Yeah, so it was a three day takes four days.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

A two-day which takes three days, a two-day, which takes three days, and then we have a two-day.

SPEAKER_01 47:23

And I love it when people are down here, but you just you back them up. It was rough. The last month has been back to back to back. Because you're just doing everything that you like. Usually we don't go to the gym at 3 30 on Sunday, but clients are in town, so what do we do?

SPEAKER_02 47:37

We want to go.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

We want to go to the gym at 3 30. Looks like we're going to the gym at 3 30. And we did camp box. We didn't get to box for a week. Yeah. Well, you didn't participate in that, but I didn't get to box for a week. I did buy another pair of the Oakley Meta vanguards. Did you get in trouble for that yet? Dude. No. I got a Smith machine. I don't know why the gym is 10 minutes away.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Yeah. But now I can go to the gym at the evening.

SPEAKER_01 48:01

When? The evening. Like in your garage? Yeah, man. You're gonna build a gym in your garage versus just going to EOS for $10 a month.

SPEAKER_02 48:10

No, I'm still gonna have my EOS and my Peaks membership, and yeah. But then I'll have a gym in the garage.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

So when you get some extra biceps, maybe some extra once to get a pump in before the podcast. Let me just do some girls out here.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

No, before you get laid, dude, you gotta look big.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

Oh my gosh. I thought that's what the Cialis was for.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

No, I'm more of a fan of oh, there's a newer one.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

Dude is powerful. Dude, we're gonna get shadow banned.

SPEAKER_02 48:37

I don't think you will, because this is a true medical concern. That's a medical problem.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

Dude, Cialis is good for running. You take it for vascularity.

SPEAKER_02 48:45

Yeah. And other things. But if you want to feel like you're 18 again, the pro the the mix of testosterone and Cialis, you get those just right. Pretty good life.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

You're like 18 again.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

But you're 18, but you have like adult muscles and strength and knowledge. I've come to realize I was friggin' retarded. I'm still retarded, but when I was 18 and thought I knew everything, I was retarded. Still is retarded. Well, I look back at these kids, like some of the younger guys that we hired, and I'm like, you're a retard. But then I try to go back to my life when I was 18. I don't think I was that retarded. But I also go back and like, okay, how much did I know when I was really 20? That's kind of when I decided to be an adult. Does your mom still look over your bank account? No. Okay. But I like my mom. She's nice. I don't think she's ever been on my bank account. I had one with her when I was like 16. I overdrew drew that shit, so she closed it. Like what if they let you overdraw it, it's free money.

SPEAKER_01 49:49

We did. I mean, there are some crazy kids running around right now.

SPEAKER_02 49:53

I think. So this is a parenting tip. Quit freaking babying your child.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

Oh, yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_02 50:00

When they turn like let them fail, let them suck. Don't give them everything. Don't tell them they did a good job if they suck. Because I'm telling you right now, they suck. And they don't know how to deal with you suck. And I think you gotta understand that you suck to get better.

SPEAKER_01 50:17

Or they're late. I don't know what it is. Oh, that late thing? They're always late.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Always. And they don't have time to study or to learn anything.

SPEAKER_02 50:27

Well, we had a conversation the other day. I won't drop the name, but this person my age, and I honestly thought it was a joke of a conversation, but we still had it. And they asked me, it's like, okay, so we could define this. When we say a meeting starts at 8.15, does that mean like at 8.15? Or does that mean like 8.16? Like you have the whole 15 minute or the whole minute, 60 seconds, and I go, at 8.15. He goes, Yeah, but what does that mean? I go, at 8.15. I go, that means at 81501, you late. Dude. So okay, we'll define it that way. And I'm like, huh? Like, I didn't think that ever needed to be done. And by the way, I've said that many times.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

I know who it was too.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

Yeah. I've said that many times in the meetings that 81501 is late. Yeah. Which I said it to be an asshole and like condescending. I didn't think it was actually like valuable information.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

Dude, it's crazy. Knowledge is power.

SPEAKER_02 51:20

But I just like I've always been early or on time. I hate being on time. I've always tried to be early, especially if someone else is waiting on is waiting on me. I've always tried to be early. And I can't stand being late. Don't be freaking late.

SPEAKER_01 51:33

Dude, there's too many people who are late in this world, man.

SPEAKER_02 51:35

I can't stand it.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

And you know what's really annoying when you're late? Don't say that. Tell the real reason why you were late. Don't be like, my car wouldn't start. Oh I heard. My phone alarm didn't go up. Like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

I heard one the other day. The excuse was so I can't remember what it was. It was a first-time excuse I've heard for being late.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

And someone was late because they forgot they were cooking their breakfast.

SPEAKER_02 52:00

Yeah, that's not an excuse. That's uh you suck at time management.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

Oh I was cooking my breakfast. I didn't want the eggs to not be a little undercooked. So I decided to be late instead.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

All right. Well, let's get off this podcast so we're not late. Later, everybody.