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Guns, Grit, And Getting After It

Greg Pingel and Jonathan Roberts Episode 5

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What actually changes outcomes: louder rules or better skills? We open with Australia’s proposed gun buyback, then make a case for a training‑first approach—real firearms education, clear qualifiers, and responsibility baked into culture. It’s not about being flashy; it’s about building capability that deters bad actors and empowers good people.

From there, we wade into the health trenches: peptides for fat loss and recovery, why GLP‑1s curb hunger so effectively, and how side effects and sourcing can derail results. We talk fasting without the fairy dust, NAD with caution, and TRT with eyes wide open. The takeaway isn’t to chase the newest vial—it’s to nail the basics first: protein, sleep, electrolytes, and consistent routines. If you’re exploring peptides, do it with medical oversight, lab work, and reputable suppliers.

Discipline holds it all together. Drawing on military selection and early morning training, we break down how “the mundane” wins—boring repetition in sales calls, prepped meals when you’re not hungry, and friction‑killing setups like a home gym or smarter scheduling. We also break down Jake Paul’s KO and what it reveals about conditioning, pacing, and the cost of shortcuts. Along the way you’ll get practical nuggets on telehealth and Amazon Pharmacy, travel hacks like JSX, and community updates for our Whoop crew and Mexico workouts.

If you’re tired of hype and ready to stack real wins, this conversation gives you a blueprint: train, verify, repeat. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs a push, and drop a review with the single mundane habit you’re committing to this week.

Cold Open, Mics, And “Active Recovery” Shoes

SPEAKER_01

Old peasantry.

SPEAKER_00

So we're shooting the podcast out here today. So we're not running any of the podcast equipment because haters have a lot of problems with the podcast equipment.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, they hate it. And they think we do this in like a random empty office space like a storage shed somewhere.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but they also wanted to like, you know, wonder why the video wasn't connected to the podcast equipment, and I just want to tell them I'm not that much of a nerd and it's more difficult than you seem. So if you want like the high quality audio, go listen to the actual podcast on Spotify or Apple or wherever the hell else it is.

SPEAKER_01

Spotify, Apple, YouTube, Netflix.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, then you'll get badass audio. But yeah, I got offended, so figured we would just do it out here with normal mics or wireless mics. And if you're watching on Facebook Live, you got a directional mic, so I don't know. Good luck. I don't even know if you can hear us. Yeah, you might just be watching us. Yeah. Honestly, I think a lot of people would, you know, pay to watch me and not hear me speak. So that's true. I'm sexy.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know about that, but.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, I'm sexy.

SPEAKER_01

You know what's sexy is my my shoes. Look at those bad boys. Dude, they're Christmas shoes. Candy cane shoes. Cane.

SPEAKER_00

Those are bogs. I would say for men.

SPEAKER_01

They're active recovery shoes, Jonathan. You guys hear that? Active recovery shoes.

SPEAKER_00

Someone sold you some shit that you don't need.

SPEAKER_01

I was honestly surprised. I was in the office a little bit ago and Evan Macklin walked by, you know, and he didn't say anything about them.

SPEAKER_00

That's because he's questioning your gayness.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I was like, usually he would say something when I have something stupid on, but he didn't say anything. He just walked right by and I was like.

SPEAKER_00

And now he's like, damn it, it's true.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was like, dang, I guess, you know, they just expect me to wear stupid stuff like this now. It's not out of the normal. It's not good. Out of the norm.

SPEAKER_00

It's bad for your health, Greg. With that, those are kind of like, so those are active recovery shoes. Active act okay, guys. So what do they do?

SPEAKER_01

Active recovery shoes, I honestly don't know. They feel you want to try them on?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

Are you sure?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

They feel good, we have them on, but they're they're called active recovery shoes. So we'll see how good my recovery hasn't been the best recently as of late.

SPEAKER_00

So it looks like some 12-year-old 3D printed a shoe and sold it to you for more money than a typical shoe probably cost.

SPEAKER_01

How much do you think these were? Take a guess. Take a gander.

SPEAKER_00

240 bucks.

SPEAKER_01

No, dude, they're like 80 bucks.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you got broke shoes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and free shipping.

SPEAKER_00

So it's his first time, it's his first time 3D printing shoes. He hasn't realized it's worth yet in some stupid ass product.

SPEAKER_01

You know what? I am actually surprised we don't have a 3D printer. Yeah, I haven't been that nerdy yet. Why haven't we done that yet? Because I'm not a nerd. I don't know. I think that'd be kind of cool. We could make some just random shoes. I couldn't, I wouldn't even have to buy these anymore. I could just print them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, for 26 bucks.

SPEAKER_01

Not even that. It's like five cents. The 3D print them, it's like literally five cents. It's like you just have to like get the mold up and you'll be golden, you know? So yeah, active recovery.

Australia’s Shooting And Gun Buyback Debate

SPEAKER_00

3D print your knowledge. Alright, so we're gonna talk about stuff today. First thing being your shoes. Yep. Second thing being the Australian gun buyback. I think that's super interesting. Well, you brought this to the table. I did. You realize they already bought a ton of guns back, right?

SPEAKER_01

Dude, I think it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

So here's what happened in Australia. If people don't know, during some Hanukkah celebration, some potentially Muslim Islamist far right wing or far crazy wing went ahead and two dudes, I think it was like son and dad, shot a bunch of people. Yep. There is that cool video of that dude taking one of the gunmen out. Oh yeah. But the problem is he's a little bitch because he takes the frickin' gun, secures the gun, gets it out of the bad guy's hand, and then lets the bad guy run away. Showed him mercy. No, you shoot him in the frickin' face.

SPEAKER_01

You know, it's interesting. I actually heard that on the news today. They were talking about that because they also raised, I think it was like 1.3 million for the guy.

SPEAKER_00

That's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01

But what would you do in that situation?

SPEAKER_00

I think I know what Jonathan would do. That's easy. I'd shoot him in the face. Because here's the thing it wasn't the gunfight wasn't over. He was still getting shot at by his freaking dad.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So you neutralize the target so you could do that, then you can return fire on the dad.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm saying like what that did guy did is like 90% better than what most men would do nowadays. Just putting that out there.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, most people wouldn't even stop the guy though. But did you see that attacker in China with the knife?

SPEAKER_00

No, I haven't seen that one.

SPEAKER_01

He stabbed like three or four, killed like three or four people, like running through like just a public area. Should we ban knives? And the knife was like, it was like this long. And all you did is you it was like they were just running around. It was like if you put like a cat in with a bunch of mice and the mice are just screwing around, no one tried to stop him or anything. So, I mean, 90% of people wouldn't even stop that guy. They'd just run away. Because in China or Japan, wherever it happened, they didn't even try and stop the guy. They just all like ran around and you saw him run into a store and then the whole store emptied out. That's like the thing though.

SPEAKER_00

It's like it's like hurting cats, yo. Like I'm not saying the guy did the wrong thing, but he could have taken another step. He could have. And if he was, you know, I guess comfortable with firearms, or if more people in Australia had firearms, then that incident would have stopped a hell of a lot quicker. Although those were some pretty good shooters. They definitely had some good, they had they had military training.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That was I just think the whole blowback of it's kind of crazy. You know, like they're gonna do this huge nationwide gun buyback.

SPEAKER_00

Well, those guns were illegal anyway, so you know. It doesn't make any sense. You're gonna buy back guns, and I hate to break it to them, criminals don't care. You know, whether if you're you know thinking about a murder charge or attempted murder charge or terrorist charge, trust me, a possession charge you don't give a shit about.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I and that's even here, you know, like when if you think like Chicago has the strictest gun laws but has like the highest or St. Louis, you know, like some of these towns have such strict gun laws and you can't bring a gun in even into the state, yet they have 40 or 50 shootings every single weekend. So is it really like the laws that prevent people from the gun violence? I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, because by definition, what is a criminal? Someone who breaks a law. Damn. You should run for politics.

SPEAKER_01

Politik in. Dude, I'm just I'm running from 2027 for something, 2026, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

You should, like for common sense, like the common sense party. They don't have that party. Do you know how many people would be part of that party though? Yeah, but if they had the common sense party. Lobbyists wouldn't like it, but it would be a good party. You know, this is kind of weird not having a microphone in front of you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it is actually really weird.

Courage, Self‑Defense, And Public Attacks

SPEAKER_00

Or a clock. I don't know how long we've been rolling for, uh, that's a good point, because you usually we have your phone going. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Or I have the little timer on the podcast. You have the timer on the podcast thing. Yeah. I think we've been going for six minutes. I I don't even know if it's been six minutes or not. I don't even have a watch on today. I got my whoop band. Yeah, I got a whoop band. Whoop band? If you're watching this, Greg's got his affiliate link. Got my affiliate link, I'll drop it in the comments below. Get a month free. Join Whoop. You can join our community then too, huh?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, we do have a whoop community.

SPEAKER_01

We have a whoop community, Elliot Army. It's about 25 people strong. So if you're on the whoop band train and you want in that, just drop it in the comments. We'll send you an invite link.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, anybody watching this can join. That's actually a good push. I support that one. Not sponsored by Woop. Unless Woop wants to sponsor my ass.

SPEAKER_01

Whoop would be cool to be sponsored by, except like it's not you can only have one band on, so I don't really know what they would sponsor you with. Another band? Another band? Gear? I don't know. Maybe they got gear. Maybe. Some trend blown. I'd wear their sweatshirt.

SPEAKER_00

Little trend blown?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Some peptides, that's what I need. Okay, that gear. Yeah, yeah. You guys are gonna get me some peptides, right?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, speaking of peptides. Some antivir. What's cool is like our peptide reels get the most views. If anyone needs to know, Retta Truetide's the shit.

SPEAKER_01

Jonathan's lost 20 pounds and he hasn't eaten a single bite of food for 20 days. He's on a 20-day fast. 20-day fast.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_01

So I've been eating. But that's all on Retta. Retta True Tide, yeah. Yeah, because that's all I'm using is Retta and some TRT. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The peptide train, I'm gonna get on a bunch more when we get back from uh Yeah, I'm gonna try D SIP. D SIP. I'm gonna continue with the Retta. Actually, I need to go inject Retta later today. Get some BPC.

SPEAKER_01

What peptides have you guys tried? Anyone sales nation watching? Drop it in the comment. Have you guys tried any peptides? I'm like, I tried a bunch. Yeah. I've done like RETA, BCP, TB500. What else? We use Greg for extra. Oh, Tesamorlin, Semamorlin, right? G L P1s, G L P3, which is the Retta. Well, I'm gonna try um I'm gonna try Mod C. I've heard that's good.

SPEAKER_00

Mossia hair really. Yeah, I'm gonna try Mod C. Oh, N-A-D. N-A-D, but there's also that G-R-U-K group, something like that. Is that a group? Yeah, that one helps with like collagen production, helps with your hair. That one's it they call it the uh Botox Killer, so it's more for Of course. Jonathan wants to do that one. Typical he does.

SPEAKER_01

Typical. So Jonathan's gonna try it first.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

I still have to bring you when he uh tried Tesla Morlin, I think, a couple weeks ago, he had some deathly allergic reaction. I gotta bring you over some still to try it. Yeah. We should have tried that on the live. That oh dude, next that's what we're doing. The next live stream, the next episode, we're gonna just inject Jonathan on the podcast and see how well he reacts to getting some Tesamorlin.

Laws, Criminals, And A Training‑First Gun Policy

SPEAKER_00

We can do an allergy test. I'm gonna do it the right way. Well, I did that research. Well, I found that reel of I'm not gonna drop his name, but the guy that I actually trust his research, trust his advice. He was talking about how certain peptides like the G R U K1, testamorlin, CJC1295, and there was a few other that are like he called them harsh peptides, not necessarily bad, but what they do is when they go into you, you know, a lot of people get the the red spots, kind of like you would have an allergy. And how it's actually not an allergic reaction, but what it is is something the peptide does inside of you, it just fights and magical, and then you kind of like break out like an allergy attack. And then I'm thinking back on like the day I took it, my throat never really swole up, just my body swole up with hives and gross. Yeah, I was itchy and I was really hot. I wasn't really itchy, it was just really warm, and then got a little spooked out, went to the hospital, you know, they gave me a bunch of anti-inflammatories or Benadryl type shit, some allergies, which kind of worked, but I think it kind of also just took its own course. But there's another peptide like KC something, I think it's just called KC, that actually helps stop that reaction if you get it. But it's like a reaction from having like low magnesium, low vitamin C in your blood. I think high estrogen, high glucose.

SPEAKER_01

Estrogen from Jonathan.

SPEAKER_00

Well, no, my estrogen's running higher and I feel better.

SPEAKER_01

That explains a lot. No wonder you're such a bitch the last couple weeks in the office.

SPEAKER_00

I've been a bitch. Other than that first week when I was on Red O 2 fat and I truly didn't eat.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he was like dead.

SPEAKER_00

Then I was a bitch. I was tired.

SPEAKER_01

He was dead to the world, and he's just I hated everybody, hated everyone.

SPEAKER_00

But I'm wondering if I just had that happen to me. Because I'm I'm 99% sure that I've ran CJC Tesla Morelin combo like four or five months ago without any problems. Yeah. So I'm wondering if that's what happened because the concentrate or mix or whatever it is that was in that one was already grapeseed oil. I didn't have to concentrate it myself so it wasn't the bio water. My test is with grapeseed oil, so I'm not allergic to grapeseed oil.

SPEAKER_01

So You know what he's allergic to? Gains. That's what he's allergic to. He's allergic to gains. That's why you broke out in hot. You know what you're allergic to, bitch? Losses. Yeah, I don't lose. That's right. I am allergic to losses. I don't fucking lose. Thanks, Jonathan. I appreciate that. Thanks for the compliment.

SPEAKER_00

Greg's having a problem right now since he wants to be a dick. Yeah. Where he's kind of plateaued on some fat loss. And I told him, dude, look, anorexia. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It works. Two weeks of not eating. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Have you ever seen a committed anorexic that was fat?

SPEAKER_01

Dude, never.

SPEAKER_00

Never. They don't exist. See, and that's okay, let's talk about that. That's another bullshit shit thing. Going back into high school, was your high school as a whole anorexia, bulimia, don't be bulimic anorexia, body dysmorphia thing. Was that like pushed?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. They were worried about girls like puking in bathrooms and stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Did you ever meet one? No. Did you ever meet like someone that like was truly straight? Like some skinny bitch. I knew of people who like did that. Like I knew of one. And they got skinny. Well, they got skinny, but like I knew of one. And this was like my freshman sophomore year. And she became an anorexic, supposedly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And she got skinny, but then she like it was like a three-week thing. She went on a fast. She was getting ready for a fight or something. Oh, weird. That's that's just cutting weight. No, she was. I should I mean that's so long ago. These people don't know me anymore. But yeah, I think it was more of yeah, cutting weight, wanting some attention. And she wasn't even that big. She just wanted to cut a little bit more weight. But like I never met someone that was like Holocaust victim looking.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, never either.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so that shit's completely bullshit. Made up. I'm sure someone out there struggles with it and has body dysmorphia, and but it ain't that bad for you. Like, no. If if you're seriously malnut or malnourished, then I guess it could be bad for you. But I mean shit, look at all the evidence nowadays. It's like, hey, you want to kill cancer? Don't fucking eat for a while.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like cancer, you know, grows on freaking insulin and that's what feeds it. It doesn't, you know, feed like a normal cell.

SPEAKER_01

So no, if you're if you think if you have cancer, you know what you feed, you live off of stem cells.

Whoop Bands, Community, And Live Streams

SPEAKER_00

Ooh, no, stem cells and cancer are bad, Greg. Really? Yes. That's not what that's not what Seth said. Certain, don't drop Seth's name. Certain, certain cancers you don't want to be on stem cells for. Okay. Because it'll help it grow. There's a little bit more to that than that. But yes, it can find it, it can repair. Same with NAD. I'm just I'm just going off the testimonials that I heard. And it for certain cancers. NAD and cancer are bad. Because NAD helps cancer spread. But cancer typically is fueled by glucose and insulin. So I'm not a cancer doctor, so the newer research. We're in the rabbit hole on this one. It's not even newer research, it's Eastern medicine. Like cancer's relatively new, or it's definitely growing in its rate. And what they used to do for pretty much everybody, and it's in the Bible, is pray and fast.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, it's been removed from quite a few Bibles.

SPEAKER_01

I know someone who just went on seven-day fast. Well, not seven-day, four-day fast. Who's on a four-day fast? Vince. Vince? Yeah. Right before we go to Mexico? Yeah, he just fasted. Oh, is he done? He's done today. Today's his last day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, four days' good for you. Did he use Retta to do it?

SPEAKER_01

I think he just was like, I'm gonna fast forward.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, you could so easily do it on Retta.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it just if you haven't tried Reddit True Chad, Retta, I would try it.

SPEAKER_00

And just make sure you're on a meal prep first.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because you have to force yourself to eat. Yeah, nothing. So.

SPEAKER_01

It's like one of the easiest things not to do is just not eating. You know, you wake up, I'm not hungry. During the day, I'm not really hungry. I gotta force myself to eat and go home and do the meal prep thing. And yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So Australian gun buyback. You have anything else on that?

SPEAKER_01

Dude, I don't. I just think it's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00

I think they should actually sell them to the citizens.

SPEAKER_01

Guns? Yeah. Just reverse engineer it?

SPEAKER_00

Everybody who doesn't have a violent misdemeanor or any felony at all, they just start giving every citizen guns and then the state sponsors free go. Oh no, here's how they do it. Because I am reasonable with guns. I don't think every idiot and their mom should have a gun because.

SPEAKER_01

What's that movie where you can do any law and break any law for 24 hours? I feel like that's where this is going.

Peptides, Weight Loss, And Side Effects

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no. It's not going to be this is actually smart. This would help. So here's how we do it. There's some qualifiers. Because I definitely have seen some idiots that have a gun, and I'm like, even if you don't have a criminal offense, your dumb ass should not have a gun. You're just you're just dumb. So not everybody should have a gun. I truly believe that. However, I believe the government should quit trying to fund like all this non-gun propaganda bullshit, especially in the US. I mean, we just got too many. You're never taking our guns. And, you know, our country was founded on guns, so guns are good. But here's what they do they give people free guns. Well, there's a qualifier for it. Every man and woman over the age of 25. Okay. I think you have to be 25 because I think 18, 21 is just a little bit young. You gotta have some shit going on in your life. 25, you go take a state-sponsored, and I don't like spending government dollars, but I think this is worth it. You take a state-sponsored gun safety course, concealed carry course, open carry course. Just like I think it's gotta be about a seven-day course. Okay. Like it's gotta be intensive so you can really get some time with it. Yeah. And if you pass that course, you can then get a gun from the government. And everybody, what do you guys think about that? And everybody gets one shotgun, one handgun. Home protection, out and about protection.

SPEAKER_01

Maths mathing in my head for that. Yeah. I mean, you go to, I mean, if you get a DUI, you have to go to drunk driving school, and that's you know responsible.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you gotta go to driving school.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I could, I'm, I'm, I mean, I could see that. Yeah. And you incentivize people to take the class then.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and then here's the cool thing everybody carries a gun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then the bad guy gets shot by good guys.

SPEAKER_01

The math's mathing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it makes sense to me. So, Australia, if you're watching, whoever the hell you're king, president, whatever the hell you are.

SPEAKER_01

What do they do over there? Is it a it's a president, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

No, I think it's a prime minister or something like that. It could be a president. I think they're like kind of Great Britain's bitch, but not really. I don't know if that's still a thing.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know either. I don't know. I don't really pay attention to Australia that much, I guess. I've never really had a I think they still have the king. I could be completely wrong on that. I think you are. I don't think they have a king.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's like Canada. No, I think it's uh Great Britain's creating. I think somehow their parliament is still under that shitty.

SPEAKER_01

I wish I had my phone out here because I'd look it up. I truly have no idea.

SPEAKER_00

See, we need to get one of the new guys, and if a new guy watches and you're hitting this reel, we're looking for someone who's smart enough to use a computer, and like Joe Rogan, he's got his perplexity sponsor. Yeah. Do you listen to Joe Rogan podcast?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so he's got his little sponsor, and you just have like our new guy, we'll put a TV. Actually, I like this spot. We could put a TV there. That'd be cool. We could have our information instead of our little note sheet with just you know five random topics on it, and then we can have them look shit up on Chat GPT or Perplexity or Yeah, whatever. Whatever AI wants to sponsor me. I'm a huge fan of Poppy AI. Might be a little too complicated, but that shit's expensive. So Poppy AI, if you're watching this, we'll tag them. I need more credits.

SPEAKER_01

Send more credits my way. My 2,000's almost up. Dude, they got me. I spent another like grand on a thousand more credits a month, dude. And still and I'm still blowing up. One of the coolest things. Blow through 3,000.

SPEAKER_00

If like you're a creator trying to create content or just get ideas, but you want it to be like off of a narrative and stuff or off of like certain it's the best. Although some of those new ones I'm messing with. Poppy AI. Manis was good for about two weeks. Why are we sharing the secrets? Because no one watches this crap. That's true. And if you're actually willing to watch this and you're like, oh my gosh, I think Manis is still good though. It's still good, but now that I've started playing with Gen Spark, dude, Gen Spark's gonna trump it. Oh, that's another thing I learned about spending money. I used to be the type of person that like if there was a monthly and an annual and you save some months money going annual, just go annual. So you actually use it, not with AI.

SPEAKER_01

No, not with AI, because I always find something new. I haven't found a replacement for Poppy yet. That's probably the longest one I've kept that I can do.

SPEAKER_00

I don't exist close to Poppy. Yeah. But like with Gen Spark and Manis, like I think I did monthly on both of those. And it's because like two or three months something else has beaten it, and I'm switching to that one for a while, and then I'm coming back over. Although it's really not, you know, bad. Like Opus Clip, which I'm not using anymore. Well, this will be the first week I don't use Opus Clip, but I'm gonna try to use Gen Spark to cut up these reels. Opus Clip, and it was only like 190. I checked it yesterday, it was like 192 bucks for the year. So it wasn't really that bad.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, speaking of AI, you know what's something really cool? So, Danny and do you want dude? You remember Danny and I did that dinner the other night? Imagine this, okay? And this is for all salespeople. You're on the phone, right? And you're talking to a client and they give you an objection, right? And you can't overcome it. What if you had a phone software that the second it hears the objection on the phone, in a nanosecond, how to overcome what's right on the screen?

SPEAKER_00

See, I want to see that in real play though, because all the AI I've seen that does that takes a while.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, that's that's the sauce. It's a nanosecond. It identifies the objection and bam, pops up with it. Did you see it work with those people? Yes.

SPEAKER_00

I've seen it work. It's crazy. Well, and it makes sense that you could do that. You would just need a lot more computing power behind it.

SPEAKER_01

It's taken them years to develop it. And they showed us that we were on a call with them last week before they flew down. And you hear the objection, hey, yeah, I I'm just really busy right now. Bam, the objection's on the screen, how to overcome it.

SPEAKER_00

I want to see.

SPEAKER_01

It's nuts. It is wild. And I'm like, this would change the sales industry forever. Yeah. Because your bottom, like we know, the bottom, you only have like the top 20% of the company make 80% of the revenue, right? And even at a car dealership, the new guys, how long does it take them to learn phone skills? A while. Too fucking long. Yeah, too effing long, right?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, are we not cussing? I'm I mean Greg's being good. I'm trying to focus on it.

SPEAKER_01

You know what you should do that'll help you quit cussing Red or True Tide. I do use Red or True Tide and it doesn't help.

SPEAKER_00

Oh dang it.

SPEAKER_01

If he's told me every time I swore I had to put in a Zen, I'd be no, I would not swear every time.

Fasting, Cancer Claims, And Caution

SPEAKER_00

So my question to you is why do I have to tell you to do that? Why do I have to be Big Daddy and you can't just make the commitment yourself? To quit? To quit. Speaking of being a little bitch, so we've got a Mexico trip. We're gonna be flying down or driving down. We drive down Monday morning. Driving down Monday morning to El Mesico, which is actually an amazing place, by the way. Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be a good time. Don't let the U.S. government trick you.

SPEAKER_01

So we'll still try and do our live calls next week for you, Sales Nation.

SPEAKER_00

We are.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, we are.

SPEAKER_00

Jeffy streamed from the aliens.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Jonathan got uh what'd you get? Starlink. We got Starlink. We set it up out here the other day. It worked pretty well. Oh really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It'll work in Mexico then too. We'll be Goldman.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, should be good in Mexico. So we're going down to Mexico and you'll be the team's going. Live stream from the aliens. Yeah. But we're also doing a little workout every day, 6 30.

SPEAKER_01

We should probably live stream some of that too. We can, because I'll bring my camera down there. So we'll live stream some of the workout. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Jonathan, you want to tell them what the workout's about? So the workout is, as many of you know, I spent eight years in the army. I've been to like special operations selection and some other cool shit where they just mess you up and hurt you and make you feel like a like a real man inside. I'm just kidding. For anyone, here's something that I, you know, because I'll talk to a lot of people that have been in the military, this and that. And you occasionally get people that are full of shit. And one thing I've noticed is when people start talking about like the special operations community, like going through selection or Hell Week or this, this and that. Yeah. Here's how I know if your ass never went. It's everybody who tells me, I never even thought about quitting. Bitch, I thought about quitting every damn second. Dude. That shit sucks. Yeah. I just had this little like voice in my head is like, don't be a bitch, over and over again. And then the other voice is going, You hurt, motherfucker. You're hungry, you're tired, you don't feel good, you're probably gonna die.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then I was just, you know, the other voice was just like, Well, if you die, you die, bitch.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It well, that's kind of people in life though. Because you brought that, you met you said it, I think you brought it up when we were talking to a group of people, and you said, like, who plays video games or who's played a video game?

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And like no one raised their hand. Yeah, no one raised their hand. And I'm like, well, the last time I played was with Jonathan. So I mean, yeah, but I don't like actually playing them.

SPEAKER_00

I don't play regularly, but I'll probably play like just a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01

But that's like how society is, because then once you asked another question and one person rose their hand, then you had like four others like, oh, it's okay to raise my hand.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you started your group thing, no one had the balls. Yeah. I was like, bitch, you guys are all F and Lion, or you really suck at your job because I occasionally play and I outperform 90% of you.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's even going to the gym in the morning. I'll tell people, I'll be like, I I f I hate going to the gym at 3 30 in the morning. I do. I don't like it. Like, I hate it, but I still go every day. I'm not gonna tell you guys, oh, it's I love going, I I love waking up at 3 30. No, it sucks.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there's no fun in it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I think the more real you can be about what you're actually going through, the better you can connect. And people are, I don't know why they're like too afraid to do that. Yeah, if you just said now it sucks.

SPEAKER_00

So, what we're gonna do though next go, and back to be part of this, and I'm I'm on, I'm on the edge because I think to give you guys the full experience, I have to be more of an instructor than if I'm gonna do it. Jonathan's not gonna do the workout.

SPEAKER_01

Oh he's gonna be the instructor. Okay. I saw I know where this is going now. Okay, one, I've done this before for two weeks freaking straight. But he doesn't want to do it for five days in Mexico. Three days. He's gonna be the instructor.

Mexico Trip Plans And Starlink Setup

SPEAKER_00

But I have to. I'm going back and forth a lot on it. I think I have to. But you'll see why I have to when we're there.

SPEAKER_01

I get to be the instructor on the second day.

SPEAKER_00

No, you don't. Because you have not earned a title of actually doing some shit. Because here's the thing. I had, I think it was both Luke and Kobe told me, like, holy crap, dude, that'd be awesome. I've always wanted to do something like that and try something like the military shit one. It's not normal basic training bullshit. I'm gonna break these sons of bitches. But to get that full experience, like, I'll have to be more in. Jonathan's like, I'm gonna spit in your face. No, not like that. You'll be you're you're gonna you're gonna be surprised because it's actually It'll be interesting. But uh, but here's my goal 50% of people don't make it.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna throw up. I already know it. It's cool.

SPEAKER_00

You might throw up.

SPEAKER_01

I'm already throwing I'm gonna throw up. Then you're gonna have to put it in your pocket. Oh god. Because you don't want anyone else to get it. So dude, I don't even you know what's funny? I was thinking about this the other day. You know what got shorter when you come to Arizona?

SPEAKER_00

Your shorts. I'm actually wearing shorts today.

SPEAKER_01

I'm actually wearing shorts too, but you think I could put it put it in that pocket?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I could get some puke involved. Throw up and put that puke in that pocket right now. Oh god, roll it up for you. Save it for later. Yeah, don't worry, we got stuff for you.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just not gonna eat. Um you know what? I'm not gonna throw it because I'm not gonna eat.

SPEAKER_00

We should yeah, bring your thing. Let's just live stream that both days. My little my camera thing. Yeah, we can text. It's got a tripod on it. Yeah, I'm gonna have the media guys come out, but like the goal of it isn't just to break people, but it's to get people to quit. It's gonna be to push people past the limits that they actually think they could be pushed. But here's the thing.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, I'm I'm gonna have to take a lot more testosterone for this week.

Military Mindset And The Value Of Suffering

SPEAKER_00

So I come from the army world, and in the army special operations world, they're called silent professionals, and it's also like when you're at SFAS or when you're at Q school or any of that, for the most part, other than log and rifle PT, they don't yell at you, they don't cuss at you, they don't belittle you. I mean, they actually treat you like a freaking man there. They treat you better than your freaking unit treats you because it's all personal what you do and not with the team. Now, different from what I know, I've never been to Hell Week or I've never been to SEAL school, but different from what I understand is SEAL school for the most part, and especially Hell Week is gonna be a lot more in your face, calling you a little bitch. Now, don't get me wrong, both I mean, both courses at some point in time are gonna make you quit, are gonna make you rethink your entire freaking life. And honestly, the people who quit at these like special operations courses or selection processes, Hell Week, selection, freaking Delta selection. I mean, there's a million different ones. I know the Air Force has some Tack pee bullshit and whatever the hell they call that. Like the people who quit, honestly, I don't even look down upon because only about 1% of the military goes in and does this. So you've got out of out of out of the male population in the United States, 1% during the current wars, 1% of people in the 0910 would actually join. 1% of military. And now you're taking the 1% of the people who actually joined, the people who actually joined the military.

SPEAKER_01

So the 1% of the 1%.

SPEAKER_00

1% of the 1% are actually going to these courses. Okay. When everybody else just talks about wanting to. Not everybody. Yeah, that's true. Some people are just like, I don't want any part of that shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but that's how a lot of people are. They talk like, oh, I'm gonna run a marathon, oh, I'm gonna do an Iron Man, oh, I'm gonna get in shape, you know. Like, remember that uh story I tagged you in? It had the guy in the elevator at the shirt and said, This is my year, like 2024 is my year.

SPEAKER_00

Or it was like sorry for like 2019.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, 2012, 2013, and it's just red line through them. That's just how people operate, dude.

SPEAKER_00

Like that's what people get excited for it, man. It's like most people just a little motivation. And it's not even motivation, it's just the excitement about it's the excitement about what the future could could bring, gives them enough dopamine and enough fun in their life that they stop with the excitement. Because here's the problem you have the excitement stage of thinking about doing something, and then you have the end result, which for most people, if they got the end result, would be frickin' amazing and they'd be on cloud nine. The problem is everything in between that is called the Medaine, and that's doing stupid shit over and over again until you get so damn good at it, you can't freaking fail. Yeah, you know, it's like people that like, oh, I want to lose a bunch of weight, right? Like, oh, that's kind of exciting. I'd look sexy as fuck, I'd have a sick, you know, sick ass six pack and the bitches would be all over me. And that's the end result is you're getting more freaking pussy than you've ever gotten in your life before, single dudes. This is for you. And you're you're you're getting more because you're just a freaking magnet because you're gosh dang great god. But the problem is, all that time in between what you fantasize about and what could actually be possible is the Medaine. Yeah. Just waking up at 3:30 every morning and going to get the going to the gym. Well, I'll be tired at work. Most of you that say that work some bullshit nine to five job. Trust me, you ain't gonna be tired. Now, don't get me wrong, like I don't go at 90 or 3:30 with Greg. If I go in the mornings, I'm typically 4:30. And I did do that 3:30 a week with you and I was freaking dead. Yeah. But I was tired. But here's the thing, we had a freaking event that entire week. We did. We were still working until eight or nine every single night. And we're getting to the office at 6 a.m., 5 30. Yeah, we're getting to the office. It's like done at 8 and 9. Now I don't have this like high level of success. I think I'm moderately more successful than most than average, but like I don't I don't consider myself successful what I could bring. But at the same time, like I work more hours than most people. I don't take much time off ever. And if I do, I'm still freaking working for the most part. Yeah. And I mean, you can do it. It just, it's, it's not freaking fun. And that's the mundane area where most people get stuck in, is they're not willing to do the work. They're not willing to, you know, they're not willing to make it. Like, here's what I do. For example, like, I don't like going to the gym first thing in the morning with you. And honestly, when I do go to the gym in the morning, I just I'm lazy. I have trouble getting going. So what did I do? I spent like five grand and built a gym in my garage. You did. And now you painted the walls purple one day. Yeah, they're actually black. They look better. They turn black after a couple coats. Purple turned black. But it's like, go go make it so you can't do excuses. Like when I was living over on the west side of the valley, yeah. You know, my excuse always was is like, oh shit, I'm busy. The gym's not my route. I don't have an extra 20 minutes of drive time in my day. So what did I do? I got like four gym memberships. Yeah. At one time I had Lifetime, The Hive, Mountainside, and Pete. Yeah, you had a lot. Spending like two grand a month just on freaking gyms. Yeah. But it was then I had no freaking excuse not to do it. Like, well, I don't have two grand a month to spend on gyms. Well, then figure that shit out.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's even like in sales, people, and you see this a lot, they'll perform for like maybe a day or two and do a bunch of output, and then they don't do any output for like three days.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Or they'll have a really good month and then for 90 days, they'll just dick off and you know collect the money from that month. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you put yourself up and then you let yourself sink back down. And then you put yourself up and you sink back down. Like to me, it's just easier to figure out like where that 80-90% of your full potential is and just ride that for freaking ever instead of burn yourself out on a month. And I don't even know if it's burn yourself out. I think it's just you don't remember the work that it took to get the win. Totally. So then you're like, oh crap, I got the win, what's next? And it's like, who's that book? What's Relentless? Yeah. Tim Grover talks about winning, or I guess winning is the book that I'm trying to quote. Where he talks about winning. You know, some dude brings up, you know, you're on a stage, you get a little champagne, everyone's, you know, freaking celebrating, all of a sudden some asshole comes over and knocks the champagne out of your hand and says, What's next, bitch?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

The Mundane: Consistency Beats Bursts

SPEAKER_00

Because that's really what it is. You get your freaking result, you get the big paycheck, you get the big weight loss, and then most people are gonna get lost on the what's next. Yeah. What's next is doing the exact same shit because you didn't earn a damn thing. What you did earned you what you got, but you didn't earn a damn thing doing it. So now you gotta keep doing the boring shit. It's like, oh, I did the boring shit and I got one win. Yep. What do I do now? I don't know, more boring ass shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. The mundane.

SPEAKER_00

The mundane.

SPEAKER_01

Doing stuff other people don't want to do.

SPEAKER_00

It's boring, dude. A lot of it is. Because I got caught in that a few months ago and I'm kind of building out of it. You know, we had a little bit of mix-up and you know, my workflow from what I used to do, which was basically I was killer just cold calling people. Yeah. Cold calling, one call closing, a couple, two call closes, bigger deals, things like that. But then all of a sudden our flow changed a little bit and I didn't jump on top of it quick enough and fuck had to change up my work pattern. So I had to rebuild, I had to restructure, I had to, you know, start doing a different mundane, mundane, m-mundane.

SPEAKER_01

Mundane. All right. Let's get back to our paper. Our notes. Yeah, we just totally ripped for I don't know how long that was. We don't know. I have no idea how long we've been even talking to you guys for. But do the mundane sales tip of the day. Well, my first sales tip was get your socks on right. That was the 3:30 a.m. sales tip is don't have your socks inside out. Second tip, do the stuff other people that want to do it. Me. Oh, you're I was at the gym and I was like, I was switching out of these rec out of my recovery shoes and my workout shoes, and my sock was inside out, and I was like, pfft and leave the house without having my sock right side in.

SPEAKER_00

I'm wearing one of Fresella shirts today. But you know why I hate shirts with a logo on both sides? Why? Because you put it on backwards.

SPEAKER_01

That's the worst.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I rip the tags out of a bunch of shirts too, and there's no logos or anything on them, and I rip the tag out, and I don't know if I have it on forward or backward until I put it on.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's why I'll only keep shirts with just a logo on the front. Yeah. I don't want a logo on the back, just has to be the front because I'll get confused.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, what were we gonna talk about next?

SPEAKER_00

Epstein five.

SPEAKER_01

Epstein.

SPEAKER_00

So some of the bullshit files and pictures and stuff were just released.

SPEAKER_01

You see Bill Clinton?

SPEAKER_00

He's all over them. Chilling in the hot tub.

SPEAKER_01

That was such a cool photo. He's just like lounging.

SPEAKER_00

So, and here's the cool thing I'm actually seeing from this, because I was actually scrolling Twitter or X, whatever you want to call it, right before you came over. Because I'm like, dude, we need some stuff to talk about. Let's get a couple little hit points. So I'm like, all right, I'll scroll Twitter for the most recent and greatest news. So there's obviously people hating on Trump because Trump's always gonna be hated on because you're a loser and you know you don't like winning. But here's something I noticed about everything they're releasing on Trump. The females he's around, and by the way, Trump is a freaking billionaire, so it's probably not that hard for him to, you know, get what he wants. But all the females he's around, their faces are not blacked out. Except a lot of the females Clinton is around, they're blacking the faces out, which leads me to believe they were probably minors. Because why else would they redact? Why else would they allow some people, and it's not just Trump, there's other people in the files. Yeah. Because I mean, you gotta think, like everyone's like, oh, if you were around Epstein, you were bitch. Everybody around Diddy wasn't a fucking pedophile and a weirdo either. Like the dude was loaded, he had a private island. That sounds fun to me. Like, if you didn't know he was doing some stuff, you'd probably go. Yeah. Because that's just what humans do. We want to do cool stuff. But then you look at Trump, and then I mean, Trump kind of exiled him in his life later on, supposedly, and this is before he was running for president, supposedly after he found out there was some, you know, the guy was a little bit goofy. But like all the files that have been dropped on Trump so far, I haven't seen the redacted faces. I haven't spent too much time. But yeah, Clinton's in it quite a bit. You even had Rocket Boy, Virgin Galactic, Richard, uh Russell Brunson not Russell Brunson, Richard Brunson, Richard, Richard Branson. He was in a few, but it's it's just hard to say without like actual like who was doing what. Because like even if you look at the Diddy stuff, not like you know, a lot of Diddy's parties, people were getting kicked out before the party really kicked off, or the weird party kicked off, or the or the baby oil. The baby oil.

SPEAKER_01

Before the baby oil came out, they were kicking people out.

SPEAKER_00

I think Diddy gets out of prison in two years. So by what it who makes baby oil?

SPEAKER_01

Johnson and Johnson. Yeah, buy and buy Johnson and Johnson stock.

SPEAKER_00

Because that shit's about to skyrocket.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, especially when he gets out. You're gonna see the sales double.

SPEAKER_00

It's our stock play.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's our insider trading tip for the day, guys. Diddy.

SPEAKER_00

And then you wanted to talk about this visit. I like Jake Paul, dude. Oh, you want to go there? Yeah. You don't want to talk about AOC?

SPEAKER_01

Nah, that's just like wasteful political spending. I think everyone's sick of seeing that shit.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, we know that. So Jake Paul. So Jake Paul fight last night. You actually haven't watched it yet.

SPEAKER_01

No, I I thought I invited myself to your house tonight to watch it.

SPEAKER_00

No, you were you're apparently you guys are coming over to watch Andrew Tate. The Tate fight.

SPEAKER_01

The Tate fight tonight. We just said Jonathan were coming over. So I got it. Who's coming over? I think it's me and Luke.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And I think that's it.

SPEAKER_00

It is on Rumble. Luke was right. The reason I was confused on the Netflix thing is because that's what the Paul fight was on last night. Because I started watching it from I think the third round. Into the third round, I turned it on because I'd forgotten about it. And even the fourth round, Jake Paul looked dead. He looked exhausted. I mean, he was like he was trying. I mean, he finally fought someone that could fight.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

Sales Output, Routines, And Plateaus

SPEAKER_00

Is the thing. And the guy wasn't a geriatric yet. Like Mike Tyson in the day could fight. Plus, that fight was fighting. That fight was fixed. Yeah. Because one, I mean, I don't know Mike Tyson's, you know, cardio health in his 60s, but it can't be what Jake Paul's is. Not at all. But I still think Mike Tyson, if he lands the right shot and strategically, I think Tyson has the skill set still. He could have killed Jake Paul. Yeah. Yeah, he could have. But who is the guy? Anthony, something that he fought? Yeah. I don't know. Whatever the guy's fought. I don't actually pay much attention to the boxing. But in the fourth round, Jake Paul was smoked and he kept like falling to the ground forward and like grabbing onto his legs. And Homeboy just let him do it for a while. You could tell that he was getting irritated with it because it looked like some childish weak shit. But it was like the fifth round, or maybe it was the sixth before he got knocked out. I mean, he he crushed his ribs. The ref actually stopped the fight at one time and told him that knock he's what did he say? He said, No one, no one came here to pay for this shit. Start fighting, or something like that. Like that's how bad it was getting. Paul just falling to his to the ground.

SPEAKER_01

Well then he started doing the he started like mocking him and stuff and doing the tongue stuff that he always does.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he started mocking him. Yeah. He fell to the ground once. It must have been the sixth round because they stopped the fight with seven seconds left in the fifth. Yeah. He fell to the ground a couple times on the second one. He blew a couple to his ribs, and then the referee started actually counting him as a as a fall when he fell. So he had like three falls in the sixth before he finally got knocked out and then just took one right to the freaking jump. Dude, he didn't even try and stop it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It's like he did a jab and then he just bam! Just came right over, man.

SPEAKER_00

Boxing is more fun to watch though when you're actually fighting and know what the hell's going on.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I actually understand it. I'm like, why are they doing this? Yeah. But he'd he just hit that little jab and then boom, just right to the face, dude. That was so cool.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because Paul kept trying to throw that just like haymaker overhand and wasn't getting anywhere. No, wasn't it anywhere to connect? And then yeah, he would come in on him, get locked up, and then just hug his legs. It was weird. But yeah, he got knocked out. Broke his jaw in two places. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That was pretty cool.

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Which I thought.

SPEAKER_00

Because Jake Paul, and I mean, he's probably watching this because that's how famous I am. But like, you've just not been really fighting fights. No. And I'm not about it. And I'm you could probably, I'm 99% sure you could whoop my ass in the ring. I mean, I'd fight you if you want to put a fight out there for$98 million and you know, go, I'll I'll take way less than that. I'll be a cheaper. You go four or five million, you and I roll. I think I could pull you till a second, maybe third round, might even knock your ass out. But you're fighting Mike Tyson. Yeah. Like that's like that's like your grandpa's in a freaking memory facility and you go fight your grandpa once because he beat your ass when you were a kid. Yeah, that fight, that fight was bullshit, the the Tyson fight. Yeah, and then whoever aired it, I think it was Peacock or I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't even watch it.

SPEAKER_00

I just watched the highlights just like I did last night. Well, we were in Hawaii. That was when I took Brittany and the kids to Hawaii, and I'm thinking the Hawaii internet's complete shit, and then it's no, the streaming service was complete shit. So yeah. So we already covered peptides. We covered Jake Paul getting his ass whooped. Would you fight Jake Paul? No. Bullshit. How much money?

SPEAKER_01

Probably like a couple million. I do it. I think I do it for a solid meal. Yeah, I'd do it for a meal. I might even do it for less, you know, just so I can get some exposure. Help build the brand, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I might do it for a hundred.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

As a matter of fact, I'll fight you for twenty bucks, dude. Yeah, dude, 20 bucks. Let's do it. 20 bucks is 20 bucks, basically.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'll take that.

SPEAKER_00

But if I win, I want 40.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Nah, just keep the 20. Just keep the change, you filthy animal.

Socks, Shirts, And Small Daily Frictions

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you fucking need it. I bet I get some hate for that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's okay. Dude, we're gonna get hate for our shorts. I'm gonna get hate for my shoes.

SPEAKER_00

You don't get as much hate as I do, though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't know why. Well, now I probably will because of the shoes.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you'll probably get it because of the shoes.

SPEAKER_01

I'll get the sh I'll get the hate for the shoes and the shorts. I'm surprised people don't say anything about the shorts on other show episodes. Like, why do you guys wear such short shorts? Why do you just wear jeans? You guys suck. You wear short shorts.

SPEAKER_00

Because I got the vein here.

SPEAKER_01

You know? I don't want to make people embarrass.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's like why where are your caps?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Right here.

SPEAKER_00

Why do men struggle with growing their caps? That's what I want to talk to you about.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_00

Sometimes just genetics are a great thing to be born with. You just wake up and you piss freaking out.

SPEAKER_01

Or just not eat for fucking two months.

SPEAKER_00

And you still got sick ass calves. It's amazing how that works.

SPEAKER_01

Red a true tide.

SPEAKER_00

Redatrue tide.

SPEAKER_01

Third drop. That's our second third drop on Reddit T.

Epstein Files, Redactions, And Speculation

SPEAKER_00

Red True Tide. I need to find like a. Well, okay, there's the thing. No, you need to get your affiliate link for it. Well, no, because the FDA just made. So the FDA found something that's working for a lot of people. And I know they're saying like that, like they did it wrong. So they didn't ban peptides, but they what did they do? I think they might have classified them or basically made it harder. Because here's how a lot of peptides were sold. Not for human use or for research purposes only. Because they have to, you know, the FDA's got their clinical trials and blah, blah, blah. But that takes years and years and years. Unless it's the COVID vaccine. Unless it's the COVID vaccine. Then that's like. Yeah, unless it kills people who gives you autism. But anything else is like, oh, it takes five years. It takes five, ten, twenty years. Yeah. And here's the thing like they've got, I mean, just a ton of great health benefits. And everyone's like, well, you know, the medical system sucks. Well, the medical system does suck, and then they're trying to figure out like what the wealthy are doing with their money to, you know, the Tony Robbins, the uh Gary, whatever. Gary Brecca. Brecca, yeah, all those people. Like, what are you guys doing with your health to lengthen it, to make yourself last longer and your peptides, bitch? Or other things like that. And here's the thing: one of the reasons they're getting banned, and this is a good reason that they're getting banned, is because there are a lot of knockoff bullshit coming from China, stuff like that. Trying to save a buck, get the wish.com peptides. Temu? Yeah, Timu. Timu peptides. And that's bad.

SPEAKER_01

That's why he had an allergic reaction.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I got it from Wish. Um, not it. Uh, where did I get the? Oh, I got those ones from my dude.

SPEAKER_01

That was like that high-end place you're telling me about that you got those from.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, that was a legit place. Yeah. And I'm I'm thinking it was the other thing and not an allergic reaction. So bring me some of your shit so I can try it. I'm not have to buy a whole other bottle and throw it out. We'll live stream it. Well, if you but you could buy another bottle, I'll just use it. So let's just talk about health in a second, not just peptides in general, but health and like everything that we believed. Like, do you have a primary care provider? Like a like a doctor, like an assigned doctor to you? Okay, I haven't had one since.

SPEAKER_01

I just go to the dude, I do telehealth. Do you guys not do telehealth? Do you do telehealth?

SPEAKER_00

I do when I have to.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, literally, I just get on the phone and then the prescription's waiting in 10 minutes. Why do we need a doctor?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you don't have to do that anymore. You don't know about Amazon?

SPEAKER_01

What?

SPEAKER_00

Like the Amazon fucking pharmacy? No. Oh, dude, yeah. You can just go on there, enter your information, pick what you freaking want. They have some bullshit doctor worst. I mean, I don't think I've ever spoken to anyone. They just send you like an email texting back. You text back to them and you get whatever you need. Oh, that's awesome. I need to do that then. Yeah, it's and and the Amazon pharmacy, like you can enter your insurance, but I don't really have real insurance. I have VA and it's a complete pain in the ass to use. So I just self-pay it, and it's for most of everything I've ever needed, and I don't really use it. What'd you buy recently on there? Viagra. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I know you're like, you guys fucking week. I was like, no, you don't know what it's like to be 18 years old again, bitch. Yeah. Plus, it gives you a sick pump. Actually, it does. It's actually not even Viagra, it's some Taffadill Nialis. It's a newer one from that. There's a newer one of those. And yeah, I use that.

SPEAKER_01

You actually take it for blood flow for running, for endurance training and stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It works for a ton of stuff. Not just, you know, making you 18 again. The test does that alone. Just give yourself a little extra. But yeah, so you've got all this crap that, you know, big pharma and all that crap have pushed out, medication, this and that. Yet when it comes to like peptides or when it comes to fasting, things like that, you know, there's no. For example, when I went in with the potential allergic reaction to the ER, right? These guys are supposed to be smart, save lives, crap like that. And I'm not saying they're not smart, they're educated. I don't know if they're smart, but they had no idea what peptides were. And then I had to break down peptides to them with my dumbass knowledge, which isn't very much. And then I had to explain to them what peptides, which confuse them even more. And I was like, this is stupid.

SPEAKER_01

They're really good at treating rattlesnake bites.

SPEAKER_00

That's about it. You don't really need to do shit for a rattlesnake bite if you're not a bitch. Yeah, you do. No, you don't. What do you do with it then? You fucking let it sit. What? Yeah, go go do see, here's the thing. Go do the research. Like, okay, so when I first came to the-antivenom or something? Not for not really for rattlesnake, depending on where it's at, how it's hitting the bloodstream, they're not actually that poisonous. Same thing with scorpions. The more you know. Since Arizona has been recording scorpion deaths, which was 1950-something, I want to say 56, six people have died. And they've all had some sort of other anaphylactic episode that was, yes, related to the scorpion sting, but not that. But from what I understand, and once again, this is allegedly bullshit, so don't sue me if you decide to go allegedly. Have a rattlesnake bite your dick. But scorpions, all it does is hurt like a really bad bee sting and make you go numb for a while, and it'll probably be okay. From my understanding, rattlesnakes are the same way. Not that big of a thing. Now, if you get bit by a rattlesnake, you should probably just go to medical for you know, get it checked out. I don't really know. But from what I've read, people used to get bit by rattlesnakes all the damn time on like the Oregon Trail, and it didn't usually kill you. So hmm. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01

Wanna go fuck with rattlesnakes? I bet we could find one. They're in hibernation now. It's too cold out. That's why I got a sweatshirt on. It's like it's like 75 degrees. No, but at night it's like 50.

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SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it does get cold.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it gets real cold at night right now.

SPEAKER_00

Occasionally snows.

SPEAKER_01

I haven't seen snow yet down here. I know it does snow. It snowed one time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's like once every seven years they get snow in Phoenix. You'll get snow up in the uh mountains over there. Black staff's getting a ton of snow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I saw that too.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not going there. Oh, I went to speaking of snow, went to Ohio. Isn't that where you're from?

SPEAKER_01

No, Iowa.

SPEAKER_00

Same thing, right? No. Aren't you guys neighbors? No. Fuck, I know nothing.

SPEAKER_01

He doesn't know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, it was so bad. So we land in the Cincinnati airport. The Cincinnati airport is apparently actually in Kentucky. I had no idea Ohio and Kentucky were even touching. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow. And then I had to go to Detroit for a layover. That was scary. Had a bunch of lions gear and shit. Detroit is a rough airport. What airline did you fly out there? I flew American There, Delta Back. That's why you went to Detroit. Oh, so I got this really badass seat, right? It was the they were I I booked a flight like a day before. I flew first class, obviously, over there, but they were out of first class on Delta. So I flew like Delta Comfort Comfort Plus Select Comfort Plus. Yeah, that's what it was. And while I was picking my seat, I saw an area and I'm like, oh, dude, that must be a badass exit door. So I picked that. And it was an exit door. Dude, I had leg room. I couldn't, it was probably six feet in between me and the other seat. No bullshit. Because it was the big exit door on a 757 where people come through. So I had room for days. The problem was that door was cold as fuck. So I froze for like four and a half hours on the way back. It was cold. So I regret that seat. So now I understand maybe why that seat didn't get grabbed right away.

SPEAKER_01

Do you know why he didn't fly first class back on Delta? It's because it was too expensive.

SPEAKER_00

No, it wasn't. They didn't have any seats. I looked. Yeah, boy. And I kept looking. Actually, the American wasn't bad. It was like a$200 upgrade to first class.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it's not bad at all. We're flying I'm flying JSX for the first time when we go to NADA, NATA.

SPEAKER_00

NATA?

SPEAKER_01

NADA. NADA. An NADA crew at the Elliott group will be there.

SPEAKER_00

So that's gonna change your life.

SPEAKER_01

Never flown JSX before. Semi-private, supposedly. Yeah, it's charter. Charter.

SPEAKER_00

No TSA. They throw your bags on. Get off the jet. They give you your bag at the jet way. Yeah, I'm excited.

SPEAKER_01

That'll be a good time. I've never done that. I've always flown Delta.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, dude, you'll be, you'll, you'll spend less than an hour and a half from airport, flying to Vegas, getting out of there. And then it flies into private terminals. So you don't even fly into like the normal tournament. It's like it's the same airport in Vegas, but it's it's like a little private FBO that yeah, you just get out and go. They usually have a bunch of black Ubers sitting there, get in a car and the hotel. Semi-private. We're ghettoing it up at Treasure Island.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know why he picked Treasure Island. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Because I hate Vegas.

SPEAKER_01

I hate Vegas too. I'm not a fan of Vegas.

SPEAKER_00

Because I have zero want to be in Vegas. Yeah. The friggin' hotel Ramsey was looking at, like even I said hell no. Yeah. But I also didn't want to spend 600, 1000 a night on a place that I absolutely hate to be.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then, yeah, we're sharing a room, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. There's like six of us in a room.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Greg kept telling me he wants to be like on the bottom or something. And I didn't know we got a room in bunk beds, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01

We got a pirate ship R. That'd be kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00

Theme pirate ship room. Have you ever taken your kids to Great Wolf Lodge?

SPEAKER_01

No. I've heard it's a disaster. I'm not gonna take a room. Are you serious? Yeah, I heard it's dog shit.

SPEAKER_00

It was okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, okay. Now I'm good.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, we got a room. It was like a suite, and like the kids had like bunk beds with like a jungle and shit.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I heard the rooms are nice, but I heard like it's just packed, it's crowded.

SPEAKER_00

It's yeah, don't go in the hot times, but like we live in Scottsdale. It's 20 minutes down the road. So like go like now? Or when's a good time to go? I don't know. Christmas break. Like go like midweek when it's during the winter is a good time. Yeah. Midweek winter. It was definitely busy, but it wasn't like obnoxiously packed. Yeah. I've heard that. It's like a stupid pack. Like, and I just Yeah, don't go on the weekends. Yeah. And then the trick is it's cheaper to actually just get a room, because with the room you get like four day passes or whatever. Just get a room, fucking have a little vacation. And you can usually get like rooms being in Scottsdale, you just watch it'll be like 50% off.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So for a suite, it'll be I think it was 250, 300, 350 a night. And it included the water park and shit. And then like in the main area, like the food there for shitty, like fair food or whatever you'd call it was actually okay. Not the healthiest, but you know, the burger was at least everything. A burger. Yeah, you could eat it. And then for Holland, they had this like you buy the stupid wand thing at like Disneyland, you have to go do all these dumb tasks and get something. So Holland and Brittany did that forever, and I just followed around. I think I was still drinking then. Or was I sober? No, I think I was sober because I was irritated with it.

SPEAKER_01

That's how he knows, remembers. Was I having a good time or was I irritated? Oh, I was irritated. I was sober.

SPEAKER_00

I think it was shortly after I sobered up, so I was still irritated with that.

SPEAKER_01

He's still having the the shakes. Well, yeah, that's kind of cool. The shakes from it.

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SPEAKER_00

Do shit like that. And then Yeah. What else you got? Dude, I'm just chilling, dude. Yeah, I'm out of stuff. Kind of about to enjoy the sun. I've got like 40 minutes and maybe it'll hit me. Is it up there? No. Yeah, the sun's coming around. It'll be around. I should go tan. The sun's coming around. I might go take my next Zoom call. Oh shit, we don't even know what time it is. Let's get off because I do got a Zoom call at noon. Could be past it. Who knows?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I have no idea what time it is. We've just been talking. All right. We got Facebook Live over there. Facebook Live. Podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Podcast. And then I have to. Oh, now I have to extract the audio from the video to put on the podcast. Oh, that sucks. Triple work. Alright, we'll go back next week. We might use the oh no, next week we'll be in Mexico. We're gonna do a podcast from Mexico. Let's do one on the beach. On the beach. I bet we could find some shitty chairs and just sit by the beach. I bet we could.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna do podcast from Mexico. Let us know what you want to talk about, what you want us to talk about.

SPEAKER_00

And we'll rip. Yeah, we'll have our training for Mexico too. So kick ass everybody. And Greg, go fuck yourself. Deal!