Why College Is A Scam, AI Is A Skill, And Discipline Beats Excuses

Let’s talk about the difference between performative outrage and work that actually moves your life. We kick off with the viral “Somalia” fraud story and widespread tax frustration, but instead of stopping at anger, we follow the money—tariffs that hit wholesale costs, cheaper oil that lowers shipping, and how smart policy can ease pressure without nuking your wallet. It’s a sobering look at trade, inflation, and why “free” often isn’t fair when the other side plays by different rules.

From there, we challenge the education treadmill. Truancy threats for family travel, students drowning in debt, and degrees that don’t teach credit, sales, leadership, or hiring. We share a better path: targeted skills, mentorship over memorization, and entrepreneurial exposure early. It’s not anti-learning; it’s pro-results. And when we shift to AI, we put that into practice—building real tools fast, using prompt engineering, and shipping prototypes in hours, not semesters. You don’t need to become a software engineer; you need to think clearly, iterate, and debug.

The heart of the conversation is discipline. Hundreds of leg reps at dawn aren’t about fitness flexing; they’re an operating system for life. Do the boring work long after the excitement fades. Choose your hard: the pain of stagnation or the pain of growth. We push back on the mental health-as-excuse trend and argue for channeled masculinity, earned confidence, and routines that build competence. And we confront the cost of short-form feeds: if platforms prize one-second holds, your brain learns to quit at two. The antidote is deliberate inputs—long-form learning, repeated practice, and real community—so your attention stretches again.

If you’re tired of shallow takes and ready to build skills that pay, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs the nudge, and leave a quick review with your biggest takeaway—then tell us: what hard thing will you do today?

Transcript

Cold Open And Setup

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Now I know where to cut out shit. Now we're live.

Small Talk: Weather, Trucks, Gym

SPEAKER_01 0:03

Although I didn't say anything offensive. No, not yet. I learned lots of it. But it just started. We just started going live on Facebook and Sales Nation. Well, if I say something offensive early on, I have to be more careful about cutting stuff out. And then it takes forever to edit. There you go. Do you want to rehab? Do you want to rehand this? No, we're good now. Alright, cool. We can start the podcast out because people need to learn about podcasting. So today is January 19th, 2026. I don't know why that's important, but it's a little chilly out today. It is freezing out today. It might snow. Yeah. That'd be kind of cool if it snowed here. I think there's some snow on the horizon.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

It's like 56 degrees, so it's getting close. Is it 56 out? I don't know. It doesn't even feel like 56 out.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

That sounds about right. It's freaking cold though. Going to the gym this morning was cold. I had my truck just auto-start though, so it's warm when I get in. Yeah, I do. Then I have to walk from my truck to the front door. Well, your truck probably doesn't take that long to heat up.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

It doesn't. It's electric and it's on a timer. So now at 4 30 every morning instead of 2 50, since you know we train we change gyms up. It's a balmy 80 degrees in the truck when I'm going to the gym in the morning.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Plant a little timer schedule.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

I got a real man truck, so it takes a while to heat up. I'll drop a diesel. Yeah. Diesel. Mine does have the yo Jonathan, what do you tell at the diesel truck? I told Danny's boat once. Once. It's a triple axle. Pretty heavy. One time? How long ago was that? Didn't even notice it was there. Oh, three, four months ago. What have you done since then with it? Well, if someone pisses me off, I could tell their house in the middle of the night. Nothing. One of my haters living in a trailer. Just come hook right up.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

Just one of the guys. I need a truck. What do you need a truck for, Jonathan? Just to have a truck.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Yeah, because my neighbor had an F-150 and you got an F-150. And had to exert my dominance. Yeah. My truck's still faster than his uh.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

So. I mean, it's faster. His slow little diesel.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

But how many dinosaurs does it use per mile? Probably more in mine, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Yeah, if you take probably all the dinosaurs used to build the truck, then probably more. Yeah. That's why Ford lost$19 billion on the Eevee franchise.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

Well, it's because Eevee's a scam.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

It is. There's a lot of scams going on right now.

Viral “Somalia” Fraud And Taxes

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Yeah. Like Somalia. Somalia. It's probably our most popular reel, so we have to talk about pirates and the 50th state, Somalia. It's crazy, man. Formerly known as Minnesota. They say it's going to reach 19 b billy goats billion dollars. 19 billion in fraud?

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

That's not bad.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

No, it's not. But I just don't really want to pay my taxes this year. That's kind of where I'm at with the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

There's a lot of people talking about not doing it. I know. And it won't take everyone not doing it. It'll just take a large number. Not even that large of a number. But I think if you get 100,000 people, like what are they going to do? The problem is everyone talks about it, but no one's not going to do it. And for the sake of this video, I will be paying my taxes. I will too eventually. Yeah. Eventually is the key word there. I usually get them done pretty quick.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

No, it just it kind of makes you think though, right? In the grand scheme of things, if that's going on there, what else is going on out there?

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Have you thought about that at all? What's going on in Arizona? Uh dude, I'm sure there's something going on. I don't know. We got pretty nice roads. We don't have that much taxes. The police here do their effing job.

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Yeah, I think there's probably something else out there, but the trick is to find the next big thing. Oh, hey, there's a stand we were looking for.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Oh, is that it? Oh, the little one.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Well, no, that's the little one. We're looking for a different. Well, the pirates are going crazier now. There was one that attacked an ice agent with a shovel. Yeah, like a snow shovel. Shovel. Yeah. I think he got shot. I think he did he get shot? I don't know. I didn't follow up on the story.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

I just think it's kind of crazy that it's always tied back to racism and that you're just targeting one community. It's really just the fraud. Like I saw this. Did you see the reel where it's not racism?

SPEAKER_01 4:12

That's just dumbass people.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

What's the guy's name, Nick? Nick Fuentes? Shirley. Uh-huh. When he was out, he I think he was like in some, and I saw this reel, and he's at this street corner and they're selling fake goods. Oh, yeah. And the guy's like, this is my corner. Get the fuck like, you know, like he's just dropping F-bombs, tell me to get out of here. And then it was like eight guys.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Well, there's one who's just walking down the street, and the entire street like shuts up, starts facing the wall, so you can't see their face. And yeah. It's crazy, people.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

It's been a crazy last like month. And it's funny that they had that one girl, basically. What was her name? Renee. Have you seen all the memes for that too?

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

There's a ton out there with the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

We've been event to event. Well, we went Mexico to Mexico to event to event. Mexico, Mexico. And then we had two events last week.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

And it's robbing my Twitter time. We have an event this weekend too, Unrecruitable.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

We do have Thursday, Friday.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Yeah, Thursday, Friday event this week.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

Not mad at the event. I just need an app.

Crime, ICE Clips, And Media Narratives

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Yeah, it's just a lot of time, but it means that we don't have a lot of time to catch up on what's actually going on out there. Or work. Or at work even. Or work. Yeah. Work's been definitely slacking a little bit just because we've been so busy. And then we have, hey, anyone watching this, if you're going to be at NADA or in Vegas, when's the dates on that? The third through the sixth or seventh? That sounds about right. Yeah, it's like coming up in a couple weeks. We'll be out at NADA. So let us know if you're going to be out there and go to Las Vegas. We'll be out there for what, five or six days or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Sounds about right.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

I think we fly in Monday and we fly out Friday. So we're looking for some stuff to do, workouts to hit.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Basically workouts.

SPEAKER_00 5:43

We're actually thinking about doing a pop-up event somewhere one night, if we can get it set up. Yeah. So we could probably figure something out like that. So if you guys are gonna be out in Vegas, just let us know.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

Badass. So go back to the pirates. Because you said a lot of people are taking it as racism, racism, racist racism. Have another sip of C4 there. Helping or trying to like you know take out their culture and all their shit. Dude, totally. Because if you look back at history, we did it to the Irish. Yeah. When the Irish were coming over, we didn't like their way of life and potatoes and shit. Well, we did it to the British too. Because we like ran away from the British, got away from the Queen, they came back over and were like, you're gonna pay our 3% tax, and we're gonna be like, bang, rifle to the face.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Yeah, but it's nothing to do with race or anything. It's just not. They always pull the race card out whenever anytime something is going against the liberal party, it's always about race. It doesn't matter what it could be.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Unless it's white. Then it's uh yeah, then it's you know, if it's a white person, then you're in trouble. Like, imagine if all this was going on, and let's just say it was like let's just say it was like me, you, and a bunch of like our friends, right? And they found out, oh dude, we'd be like the worst people in the world. How could they do this? You know, so if I was running a fake daycare, yeah, yeah, dude, we'd get like nailed to the wall, man.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Oh, yeah, 100%. No one would question it. Or if like I tried to run over a cop.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

Dude, yeah, they'd be like, oh, dumb white person.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

Yeah, dumb fucking redneck.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Yeah. And she was white, but it's because she was standing up against ice and they said, Oh, if you hinder what they're doing, you'll save people. And it's like, why would you have a lot of people?

SPEAKER_01 7:20

And then they realized her past choices weren't that great in life for her fiance, girlfriend, wife, whatever. Yeah. I heard a funny joke on that. I don't know if I could say it on this. Just say it, dude. Well, everyone was like so worried about you know taking her out because she was a mom and stuff, but she still has a mom. The kid. You just have one less mom. That's kind of funny. Not funny. But if you're a messed up person, I don't mean anything by it, except it's funny.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Dude, I was just, I was glad the dog was okay. Was the dog make it? I think, yeah, from all the reels I've seen. I mean, if I was a cop too, I would avoid the dog. And then it's it's funny because I saw, did you see that other one? I I sent it to you and he said I saw I saw it, where it was the ice agent, and they're like, You hate your job, you like loser. He's like, I love my job. I love doing this. I do this for free.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Oh, yeah, it was the uh it was like a PA or something.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Yeah, giving them shit for and she's like, I mean, I'm a fit, I'm a PA and I make over 200K a year. He's like, I didn't even go to college and I make 200k a year. Yeah, you know, and he's like, I love this job, I do this for free. Dude, like I I get it, like they're doing their job and they're taking out some dude. Have you seen some of the people they've actually deported? Well, yeah, they've got their records and shit, dude, are you gonna be able to do that?

SPEAKER_01 8:39

Child bossers, murderers, people that we've already deported, we let back in. And well, now now because the midterms are coming up, they were just talking about today not pushing the deportation agenda so hard. Yeah. Because apparently it's not popular. And I'm like, well, why? I'm like, we're not even pacing Obama numbers, bitch. Step the shit up a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

Yeah, dude, it's crazy that we're not. But you know what I think is twofold is because there's also I didn't they say it's the least amount of border crossings they've had ever. Yeah, they like it's like zero basically. Like zero people are coming over to the wall. You know? So if you don't have less if you have zero people coming in, yeah, you're not kicking out as many. Obama was just recycling the five the dude five times and it counts as deporting, you know.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Well, I do know when we drove to Mexico last going through Nogales, there was not nearly as many people trying to get over. Because normally it's just people lined up for a mile, like right when you cross in from Arizona Negales to Mexican Nogales, there's like just a mile of people lined up, and I didn't see that. There's four or five people walking through normally, and I mean it was Christmas, but I figured Christmas you'd want to come over. America's got a good Christmas, Mexico's got a good Christmas.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Yeah, I didn't see anybody trying to come over there.

Events, Travel, And Community Plans

SPEAKER_01 9:49

I don't know why they want to get out of Mexico. I enjoy Mexico when I think Mexico was great.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

I had a blast down there both times. We went.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

Yeah. Well, and now you can make money in the US dollar, get creative, start something on that online, get paid in the US dollar. You'd be rich in Mexico.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Yeah, that's true though. You'd be bowling down there. Yeah. Oh, the whole world can. Well, and I was seeing somewhere either you can hire a VA for like five dollars a day in Mexico.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Really?

SPEAKER_00 10:13

Yeah. Out of Mexico for like five bucks a day or five dollars an hour is what it is. Five dollars an hour or something. Yeah, mine's a little bit more than that. Did you decide to do that yet?

SPEAKER_01 10:23

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

Start February 1st. Jonathan's getting a VA, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

So on February 1st, you have to talk to my VA to talk to me. Jonathan will have a real assistant and it won't be me.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

That's perfect.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

And American.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Because I hire American first. Yeah, they've uh it's a pretty cool little company that she's got too. Yeah. Yeah. But literally does everything for you.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Yeah, they're trained and they kind of know our stuff, so should take a lot of bullshit off my plate.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

I'm pretty excited for it. That means we'll have more time to film podcasts and hang out with you guys.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

Well, you will, I won't.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

I'll still Yeah, you'll still be a slave. Yeah, I'll still be a slave. Stupid ass questions. Yeah. That's okay. So let's talk about Greenland. Do you think we should buy Greenland? Dude, I I think we should.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

I think it'd be cool.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Yeah, well, have you been to Alaska?

SPEAKER_00 11:12

No. It's fucking cold. Why would I ever go to Alaska? Would you ever go to Alaska? Well, you live there, but would you guys ever go to Alaska? Maybe on a cruise. Like one of those Alaska cruises. Alaska cruise. I don't get why people do that. It's cold. Dude, I'd go on an Alaska cruise. I think that'd be fun. Do you want to be cold? I mean, if it's in the summertime, it can't be that cold. 70? Nah. What do you think Alaska gets? I think it gets like 70 degrees in the summer, doesn't it? 70. Yeah. That's okay. That's perfect for a cruise. Bullshit. I think that's great for a cruise.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

That's cold. Then you got the ocean water, and the ocean does not warm up that much.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Yeah. I wouldn't get in the water. I never said I'd do that. So what are you going to do on a cruise? Just see it and say I've seen it. Being like, I've seen Alaska. You've got pictures. How many people have seen Alaska before? It's actually pretty cool. A lot of big mountains. So that's why I'd go during the summer then when it's like 70 degrees.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

We're gonna hit an iceberg.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

End up like the Titanic.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

So you think we need to buy Greenland?

Tariffs, Oil Prices, And Trade

SPEAKER_00 12:08

Yeah, I do. They got a lot of natural resources. Well, so is Venezuela. They got oil. They do have a lot of oil. But no, I think we should go after Greenland. I mean, why not? If they if they want to do it and open to the idea of it, why not?

SPEAKER_01 12:20

Venezuela was one of the last countries to, while currently in the process of potentially transitioning to the central banking system. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, there's two more countries that aren't part of it. It is North Korea and what was the second one? I don't know. I forget Tommy. That might be it. It might be it.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

What do those two countries have in common?

SPEAKER_01 12:43

I can't say on live camera.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

I thought that'd be a good question to ask.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

That's a dangerous question, it's a dangerous question.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

We're playing with fire over here on this gorgeous Monday morning.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Really get my political opinion. So we buy Greenland, we own it, we get the natural resource. They have a lot of that stuff that they use to make AI chips. Oh, they do? Yeah, some material, some metal. And then they're also strategically located by like Russia and all of that. But the EU did send troops to make sure that we don't apparently blow. I don't think we're gonna blow them up. I don't think that's a threat of anything. Or like Well, do you see the troops already gone? Oh, from the the 36 people they sent over? Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

Well, they do get bored? No, Trump threatened tariffs. Ah, that's smart. Yeah, Trump threatened tariffs and bam, they're already gone. Dude, make tariffs great again. I'm totally down for that. It's working. It is. Putting money into the system and well, I mean, for how many years did we kind of get screwed over in that, you know, where we had hardly any tariffs and people were just importing shit everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Well, we had hardly any, but freaking, for example, the EU, like or Germany, the the reason you see a bunch of BMWs and Volkswagens and Audi over there, and not many Fords, and even though Ford over there is a cheaper product, because they tear off the shit out of it. Yeah. So we've been doing that, but we've been and I love BMW, so I'm not against it, but we've been just letting them freaking export it to us and hey, make it.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Let's been a one-way street. Yeah. They'll they'll charge us 30%, we charge them two.

unknown 14:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

You know, like it makes zero sense. Screw free trade. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Free trade's only beneficial when you're a loser. Yeah. But when you're a winner, you own that shit.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

I think you should have to pay to play. I think it should just be like, hey, if you're gonna do 20%, everything that we do is 20%. I think that's fair. I think we should double it. Be more? Whatever they do on us, we double.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

I mean that that too, whatever. And if they do zero, just because they're a smart ass, we do 50. Yeah. Or they do zero and no, we do 50. They at least have to do 1%. Yeah. And then we do 20. That too. So we do 20 or above, and then if you do 20, we just start doubling the shit. That's how we're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

That's a that's a fun game to play, but that's how it started.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

But have you seen prices go up at all? Really?

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Dude, no. No. I mean, they're already really high on shit. I think I think things have come down quite a bit. Personally, for like here in the last year, just from like moving out here and like getting settled and doing that, groceries used to be so expensive. I'm maybe spending 100, 200 bucks less a month on groceries than I was when I first came out here.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Well, that's because everyone was worried about oh, tariffs, if they're 20%, you're gonna pay additional. No, you're not gonna pay 20% more. Tariffs are tariffed on the wholesale cost of when it's in imported. Yeah. So like this whoop band, for example. What do these things cost? A couple hundred bucks, three hundred bucks. Yeah, so 200 bucks to buy retail. I don't actually know the number. You could probably Google it.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

But if they're made, I don't know. These actually might be made over here, too, man.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

They might. Most assume they're made in China. Yeah. They're getting they're crossing the border at 20 bucks. Yeah. So they're gonna get tariffed five bucks, three bucks. So like a 200 product gets tariffed five bucks. You know, honestly, I haven't seen prices go up on most shit, if anything at all. Yeah, I haven't either.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

I've I've seen more stuff come down than go up, like I said, when I was talking about it. Oil. Oil's fucking cheap right now. What is it, a barrel?

SPEAKER_01 15:58

Oh, I don't know what it is, a barrel, but I know freaking. Let's figure it out. What is oral oil? The gas station yesterday was like 306. That's the cheapest it's been in a long time. Oh yeah, and Phoenix has expensive gas. I drive down the Tucson. I think it's got a couple places under two bucks a gallon. What is because when shipping everything is cheaper, everything becomes cheaper. 59 to 64 bucks.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

What was it pre-taking over of Venezuela? Crude oil prices today. Yeah, it's WTI crude's 59, Brent Brent crude 64. Let's see if I can go over the last year. Yeah, so let's just go back like a year ago.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

We're almost a year of Trump's presidency. Yeah. Let's see if I can find this. That's one month, one day. Let's go one year.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

See, you do learn things on this podcast at the price of crude oil.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

I mean, it's down like half, dude. It was like 160 a fucking gallon. Really? A barrel. I thought we had to capp it a hundred bucks. No. So let's go back. That was like 71.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

Yeah, I was gonna say we capped it 100 bucks right now.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

January 20th of 2020. What year were we in? 2025. It was 75.83 the barrel. And today it's 59.40.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Okay. So we're down 15 bucks or something.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Not bad, but no, that'll make everything.

SPEAKER_00 17:29

Well, no, it's almost 20 bucks.

School Truancy And “College Is A Scam”

SPEAKER_01 17:30

20 bucks? Yeah. Well, this is a perfect segment with our skill in math on how college is a scam.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Oh, it leads into that totally. Yeah. I was talking to some clients this weekend, and they actually, it's kind of interesting because Maria and I were running into this a little bit, that we have, we took Riley out of school to go to Disney in September, right? Well, then we went to Mexico for Christmas break. School kids are out of school. But then Andy surprised us with that Bedanta trip. So then they were out for another three days. I'm at seven days and they can only miss 10 for the year. And then they're like, oh, we'll freaking call the courts and stuff on you, or like truancy court or whatever. Really? Yeah. If you miss 10 days. And I'm like, but wait, like, that's when the clients I was talking to said they had enough of it because they were traveling around for their business and stuff, and their kids missed like 10 days, and they tried to pull them into court for it, turncy court, and they pulled them out of school and homeschooled them.

unknown 18:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Because like, when have you ever used trigonometry? Not do you do you even need to know the capitals of every 50 states? I can't even spell trigonometry. It doesn't matter, right? And it's the same like with college. You didn't go to college. I did. How long do you go for? Like well, originally a year and a half. Yeah. I don't even use my degree in college. What we do now, you don't need a degree a degree for. No, I've never put any of my college or any of my bullshit on a resume or application. And they don't teach you I don't think I've ever filled out a resume. They don't teach you finances, they don't teach you like shit that's actually important, like how to have a good credit score. Don't teach you how to run a business, don't teach you how to think.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

Really, they don't teach you even how to manage people.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Yeah, they don't teach you that either. Unless you want to be a lawyer or doctor. College is a scam. I really think that's really or like, you know, nuclear scientists and like shit like that. No, I think you YouTube that shit. Really? Oh, I bet you could. I bet you could too. I bet you could use ChatGPT for it.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

But college is truly a scam. For it being like For like 90% of people. 20, 30 grand a year is what they pay, and it's just more and more. I think it's more people go for like the party aspect of it.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Yeah, I mean, I guess socially it could be beneficial, but as far as you can go to the parties without going to college.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

Yeah. Can I just buy a part a party degree? It's like you pay the college two grand or something and you can go fucking party.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

I think it hurts people more than it does. Well, I I because it goes in there and it you know teaches you institutional bullshit. It teaches you how to A B C D shit. It teaches you how to write a APA paper, and not once have I ever had to do any of that. And everyone I know that has a degree, if you ask them to do something, you still have to teach him how to do it. I have a degree, but he doesn't have to teach me how to do things. I do. Not all the time, only sometimes. Yeah. But like I think the only class I ever took in college, I use my spreadsheet class. That was a good way to learn how to get going on spreadsheets. Yeah. So like that but that could be a tech school.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

That could be just be like Or you could just Google it, YouTube University or take pay for like someone to teach you. That's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Yeah. I mean you can even use uh Microsoft as a little class thing, you could go right through it.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

Yeah, I don't think you have to do any of that stuff, man.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

Okay. Well it gave me an intro to spreadsheets on how I could actually implement them. But I still think back to the whole college thing, right? I use my weight training skills occasionally. Well, you took a college course on weight training? Oh, dude, I took a college course on golf.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

I guess. How often do you golf? Bitch, I got four fucking credit hours. Never. Never golf.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

Do you have credit hours in golf?

SPEAKER_00 20:47

No, I took like marriage and family once. That was a course I took. I took welding. What else did I take? I took a bunch of courses. Were you trying to learn something by accident? Well, no, so okay, so when I went to college. What college did you go to that had welding? Okay, here, let me tell the freaking story. He talks too much. So I went to this small community college and played baseball. Well, they were on a trimester, okay? So not semesters, right? I get it. Well, each semester you had to have 12 credit hours, right? So 24 credit hours for the year. But we were on trimesters, so you only needed eight credit hours per trimester, right? Well, my parents, when I went to school down there, said, no, you still need to take 12 to 15 credit hours per trimester, like a normal college would, right? So all my friends are taking two or three classes. I'm taking like six. Well, it was a smaller community college. So by the end of it, by the end of my freshman year, I was technically a sophomore. Like graduating sophomore because I had 15, 15, 15. I had 45 credit hours. I was three credit hours away from graduating after one year. Why don't you just do a class? So then I went back because I wanted to play again. So I went back the next year to play again, and I was running out of classes to take at the university. That's why I took marriage and family. I took welding. What did they teach you in marriage and family? Like how to have a good marriage and good family, and like how to raise a family. I don't even remember the course. One of the baseball coaches taught it. I see. Yeah, it was crazy. I took a welding course, horseback riding course. It was, dude, I was trying, I was just trying to take every anything I could, man. I thought my golf course was ridiculous. No, mine was nuts.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

I took that over the summer because that was your summer class. No, I just gotta play free golf for the summer essentially.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

Why not take a summer golf course then?

SPEAKER_01 22:28

I think I took like three versions of weight training. Yeah. I took an individual. Oh, I took two semesters of swimming. That was kind of cool. And then I had to take humanities, that sucked. Actually, I liked humanities. That one wasn't bad. Took some site classes, took some law classes.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

I took a coaching course, that was kind of cool. Like how to like a caught like high school coach to get started.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Was that your dream? Were you gonna be a high school coach? Nope.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Just thought it'd be fun to have, fun to do, you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

So yeah, that's that's college, man. College is a scam.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

But I want to be a manager, yeah. Well, you're gonna work. Don't go to college. You're gonna work for a dropout.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Yeah. Don't go to college if you're gonna if you want to be a manager. Just start working. But the what was really cool about the clients I talked to this weekend, though, is they're like, yeah, we homeschool them, we don't want them to go to college. We want them to be like entrepreneurs. That's why they're gonna move out here and be out here every month at our events and stuff. Is because they're also like, this is our son's like future education. Is like learning entrepreneurship, learning leadership, like getting that creative mindset to build.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Okay, just getting exposed to that type of information.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Dude, at 18. Yeah. And how much I already told him, like, dude, you're 20 years ahead of me because you know, I'm 37 or something, 38. I don't know, I always forget. I was like, I wish I had that knowledge when I was 18, 19.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

Damn, you're old.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

You know, you're the same age, dude.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

No, you're a month older than me.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

Yeah, okay, so right now we're the same age.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

I worked out legs so hard this morning, it's affecting my brain, by the way.

Leg Day Suffering And Routine

SPEAKER_00 23:58

Yeah, we got this new workout we're doing with old old Andy and Ollie. It's a lot of reps. It was I don't even remember how many reps it was, but to tell you guys, if you know what the leg curl machine is, when you sit there and like put your feet up and do the leg curl, it was 200 reps of that. Right up.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

200. Well, and then followed by 200 reps of extension. But that was the end of the workout. It was a one, I think it, I think we finished in one hour, one hour and 41 minutes, and our tempo was back, forth, back, forth.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Yeah, I don't stop to talk. I don't do that stuff at the gym. I just want to get in and I want to get out as quick as I can.

SPEAKER_01 24:36

I'm not in a good enough mood at 5 a.m. to have a conversation.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Yeah, and we were back, forth, back, forth. It was squats, and it was what 25, 20, 15, 12, 8, 5. So we did squats for that. Then we did deadlifts, 25, 20, 15, 12, 8, 5. Then we did calf raises.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Yeah, it was calf raises. Oh no, it was lunges after that.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

And it was not just a single lunge forward and back, like forward on both legs. It was forward on one leg and then back, and then you had to do that for 15 and then 15 on the other side. Yeah, I'm cooked right now, man. 15, 12, 8. Yeah, 15, 12, 8.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

And then yeah, then we went to the calves for four sets of 25. Yeah. It was toe calves and then heel calves. I like the heel calves, so I get a good stretch in the chin.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Yeah, and then we finished with those leg extensions and leg curls, and I'm just after last week and then in Mexico, I'm just torched right now. Yeah. I don't know how you guys are doing, but I'm smoky baloney.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

Today might be a nap day.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

I'm not gonna nap today. I'm gonna go to bed early, but I'm definitely not gonna nap today. That's I can I can promise you that. Jonathan might nap though. He looks like he could use a nap. He looks like he's ever.

AI Skills, No-Code Apps, And Leverage

SPEAKER_01 25:49

How about AI replacing all of those college graduates?

SPEAKER_00 25:53

There's some really like the more we're on this AI path, even in our group, the more I'm starting to figure out like you can do some really cool stuff with it. I built an app. Yeah, some really cool stuff. Did that app actually work?

SPEAKER_01 26:06

No.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

Oh. It didn't work, but it's not. I haven't debugged it yet. I wonder if you can build it.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

And I mean the framework, the app is all there. It's just the one main screen's not loading. And there's an error in it, so I gotta go figure that out. And I just haven't had time to go dick with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

It's pretty damn close though. But you can build an app in like 30, 45 minutes. I'm building some pretty badass stuff in like an hour or two.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

And I'm not even I don't even really know how to do coding.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

I have no idea how to do coding.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Just figuring it out and messing around with it.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

I know there's like X's and O's or ones and zeros or some bullshit like that.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Who was it that said they were gonna move away from a bunch of people in AI and they're gonna go a lot more AI based? I don't remember who that was. It was a major corporation, though.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Um, all of them?

SPEAKER_00 26:48

Yeah, I don't know about all of them, but I will say the one thing that's that you have to be really good at is if you're someone who's in just a nine to five, you know, desk job, you gotta get a skill set that makes you like specialized.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

I think everybody should be studying AI right now. And the best way to do it is just go play with it. Play with it and play with the right stuff. Play with the right stuff and actually ask. I mean, you can ask it to teach you how to do stuff, but I have found the best way to use AI is to use other AI to prompt AI. No, is is the better you can have, the better you can think of an idea and get like 80% there, let AI build and then fill the 20%. Like you still have to have the creative mind to say, what is it that I'm actually trying to create? Because if you're just expecting, like AI won't give you what you don't prompt it to give you. Yeah, totally. Like, I mean, you could lead it down somewhere, but uh the more prompts you do on one channel, the more off track it gets and it gets all goofy and shit. But if you can, I mean, shoot that app that I'm like 95% created, I just gotta debug one little thing with it. It's just one prompt. Yeah. And then I walked away from my computer for 20 minutes, came back, and it had the file and it told me what app I needed to download on my phone to do a trial of it, and it's built for iOS, so I could publish it.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

I just gotta figure it out first. That's pretty cool. I thought you can just build an app like that. You know, it's gonna be interesting the more we dive into it, how much more we can actually build with it because I still am building some really cool stuff, but I know there's probably so much more I haven't even touched on it with. Like Manus can do that, we haven't even discovered yet. Oh, yeah, totally. Well, you didn't have any idea about the web pages, and you're like, wait, how'd you build that? I was like, it's a web page. And you can literally buy build a web page and buy the domain right then and there. And you can integrate Stripe with it, you can integrate videos with it, you can integrate all your URLs with it, and it just takes like a little bit of time to figure it out, but it's not it's not rocket science.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

So if you want to subscribe to Greg's MostlyFans, yeah, it's mostly fans, not only fans.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

Knockoff, they're only mostly fans. That's the new app to build mostly. Yeah. We're gonna start a MostlyFans website.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

That's what you should do. You need to build a site. People might actually pay for this. It's for influencers and social media personalities and shit like that. But you have a subscription service where it's minimum 99 cents a month, but it could go up to whatever the subscribe or whatever the influencer wants, and it guarantees your haters a response to their bullshit. I'm just kidding, these haters don't have any money. I don't think they could afford 99 cents.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

I don't know. Government assistance, but have you been getting a lot of people on your TikTok? Because I haven't seen much on our other stuff.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Oh, my TikTok, I get a ton. I found out I was white. Thank you. That's what most people for telling Jonathan that most people have been hating on me the last like four or five real drops because apparently I'm white. I guess. Kind of disappointed that I find that out.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Yeah, that way through my social media haters. I guess so. That's like finding out Santa's not real, isn't it? You finding out that you're white.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

That's a second one you're bringing up today. Yeah, damn. Yeah, so hopefully this gets cut. But if you're a hater, I know I'm fucking white. Get over it.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

I can't believe someone actually said that.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

Oh, it's like 10.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

That the biggest thing you did was that you're white, dude.

Haters, Identity Jabs, And Online Noise

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Yeah. That's why that's why. Well, you're getting accused of being white too.

SPEAKER_00 30:15

Oh, I am?

SPEAKER_01 30:16

I gotta go on TikTok more. Yeah. I need a TikTok. Two white guys talking about white shit, apparently. White shit. Or one of them was That's what we should name the podcast. Two white men talking about fat people.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

Yeah, two white dudes talking about white shit.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

And I was like, fucking other people talk about fat people too, bitch.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Is like white people the only people that are okay with not being fat? Like, no, I guess I don't know. Some bullshit. So yeah, that's what you're getting attacked for right now, is being white. It's pretty cool. I can't say I know what it feels like to be discriminated against, but like I think it's fucking funny. Because it's always anonymous profiles. Always, or they have like one or two followers. Yeah. Or they spell worse than I do. And if you spell worse than I do, like I don't if if I can find your spelling errors, you got fucking issues.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

I think it's the one or two followers thing that always gets me. You know, like you have that much time. If you go make a profile with a dog face and have two followers and hater profile, and then you just what do you do all day? You know? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Like accuse people of being white.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

I guess, dude.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

I should publish myancestry.com. I got like two percent something after.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

We had that one guy that went back and forth a bunch with us. What was it like two weeks ago or something? Was that the one I invited in and actually showed up? No, different guy. He was talking crap about sales and like sales psychology, yet he's in sales.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Oh yeah, he he he works HVAC or something. He was talking about how sales is horrible and bad people, and so he said something about sales call psychology, but didn't even make sense to the thread. And then I finally decided to look up his profile because I was like, all right, I'm gonna put him in his place. And I'm like, Aren't you an HVAC?

SPEAKER_00 32:00

Yeah, and he didn't say anything. Yeah, and he just disagree. Yeah, oh yeah, he actually goes and looks at my stories on Facebook.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

Oh, yeah, I get I get a few of them.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

Yeah, he'll go look at my stuff, which it's kind of funny. People that hate you are the ones that are still looking at all your shit. Yep. So it's not like you you can't see who looks at your stories on like Facebook and Instagram, and you see like the people who absolutely just talk shit on you on the time, yet they're still looking at your life all the time. It's probably because I'm beautifully white. It's it's like living rent-free in their head.

Masculinity, Mental Health, And Personal Responsibility

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Haters can't keep their eyes off me. I guess. I got gay haters. I suppose. Well, they have to be because I still have not found a female hater. You'll get one eventually. No, I won't. Because they don't exist. You really don't think they exist? No. Because I think females are a smarter species. No, here's what it is. No, no, no. Here's the reality of what it is. Females have not been demasculated. Because they shouldn't be. Yeah. But they haven't been dem demasculated so much. Like females have pretty much been the same thing. Like right now, maybe they're told, hey, you could go do whatever you want, don't have kids until you're 40 if you don't want to, and then menopause kicks in, you can't have kids. Like that's what's going on with females. They're just being told to be more assertive females, where men at a young age are being told that they need to be more passive little bitches and less masculine. And by the way, it doesn't fucking work in life because someone needs to build, someone needs to kick ass, someone needs to create, someone needs to work 90 hours a frickin' week. Like shit's gotta get freaking done. But you got all these kids that are being told, and this is gonna go right into my next segment. Yeah. But you got all these kids that are being told that like you need to be, you know, more passive and you need to, you know, be more in tune with your feminine energy and all that crap. Like, Ben, you don't need to be in tune with your feminine energy. Fuck that. You need to be masculine, you need to freaking take care of yourself. And and this is exactly, I wrote this down here, mental health shift from awareness to excuses. Here's what's going on is we just used to be aware of all these like mental health issues, and we used to just call, depending on where you were mental health-wise, you were fucking crazy or you had some freaking issues and you got helped. But now all of a sudden people are using the mental health issue as an excuse not to do a damn thing. Because I'm 99% sure I'm fucking autistic. Like my mom made Tylenol, and I got a lot of fucking weird ass tendencies, like high functioning. But like, same thing. Like, you know, I've had the VA try to diagnose me with ADHD, and you know, they were going down the bipolar road, and I'm like, fuck you, we're not answering these questions. And I got really angry, and then he said, okay, and I got really happy. So definitely not bipolar. But like I could use all this shit that people say I might have and be like, I can't concentrate or pay attention to the shit, which is true, but I can also concentrate and pay attention to shit that I want to get done for an extended amount of time. So it's it we we've switched this like mental health thing into a fucking excuse. And that's what all these little fucking hater dudes online are doing is like they were they're men. So at one point in time they were born and they had freaking testicles and all that other shit that men have. By the way, there's a difference between men and women genetically, and you know, they hit puberty and their test levels start to go up, maybe, if you know they don't fucking kill them some other stupid way, but their test levels are supposed to go up. So when they're starting to feel this energy of wanting to be a fucking man, they're told, dial it back, you're you know, you need to be calmer and nicer and all this whore shit. Rather than taught how to harness that energy and harness the benefit of that, they're basically just demascullized. So then what happens is they don't know, they get fucking fat, they're eating Mickey D's every day, they're sitting around playing fucking video games every day, they're not getting any damn sun, they're not building anything, they're not working out, they're not you know, cutting down trees and shit. Like I used to with my brothers go cut down trees. Why? Because we found an axe one day. And what do you do with an axe? You cut down a fucking tree, or you halfway cut down a tree and kill it. Whatever. But they're not doing that type of shit. So their freaking hormones go through the goddamn roof. They don't actually know how to be a man, they don't know how to get out of their freaking basement, they don't know how to go talk to women, they don't know how to go work a real job, they don't know how to go put themselves in the society. And then depression kicks in. Depression's gonna do havoc on your fucking hormones, your shitty fucking diet, your lack of going to the gym and doing anything hard. Next thing you know, your estrogen is spiked through the frickin' roof, your freaking testosterone's falling, and you're a bigger bitch than a bitch. And I don't mean to call any women bitches. That's all what I'm saying. But you're the biggest bitch there is, and it's all because of how you were growing up and what you were told. And it is your fucking fault, so quit making frickin' excuses and change it. Damn.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

That was my ramble. That was Jonathan's ramble for the day. Yep. That was uh it is true though. What's the problem with everything? A lot of them have moved to like the excuse path of all of it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

And well, it goes further than that. It's it's it's it all starts during puberty, right? Yeah. Because what do what do women use to not get pregnant? They use birth control. Yep. Birth control when a woman's on it, when it is a certain type of birth control, typically related to the pill, I forget the actual hormone, but it makes women more attracted to feminine features when they're on the pill. So what then happens is men at a young age will do anything they can to get laid. So when you start becoming more attracted to feminine features, well, you become a little softer, you add a little bit of fat, you you know, dial back doing hard shit so your fucking test doesn't raise and doesn't vascularise your face, and you start being a little pussy. And then all of a sudden, you get married and you're in your mid-20s, or whenever the hell you decide to have kids, and the woman decides to get off freaking birth control, you guys have freaking kids, a couple years later, her hormones start to renormalize again back after or you know, off of birth control, so we're not fucking the woman up anymore. And then all of a sudden she realizes she married a bitch. Yeah. And then you're trying to wonder why you're getting a divorce because she's working, you're freaking a stay-at-home dad, and yeah, so there's a lot that goes into it, not just that, but don't be a bitch. That's all I'm trying to say. It's a lot. And if you are a bitch, you can make a choice to not be a bitch anymore.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

I think it's just one decision. It's one decision, it's just one decision from you changing your whole life.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

You know, start decide to start doing hard ass shit and quit making excuses.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Your life sucks because you don't like doing hard shit. Actually, no, that's not right either. Your life sucks because you're freaking stupid. Because it's really hard. You are, you're stupid. If you've got a hard life, yeah. If you're broke, you're a dumbass. Because it's really hard to be broke, it's really hard not to be able to pay bills, it's really hard to be stressed out with that bullshit all day. It's hard to sit around and be a loser and play Xbox all day because guess what? I've done it. When I was in the military, I played way too much Xbox, and you still feel like a loser drinking beer every night because you fucking know it. It's also hard to go create something. It's also hard to go work a couple, yeah. Choose your hard. So it's not hard. It's you're a freaking loser, and you're accepting to be a loser, and you're using every excuse so you don't actually have to go do the hard shit. You choose to have a hard life and use excuses, it's everybody else's fault that this life is hard, rather than say, you know what, it's my fault that the life is hard. And yeah, it's fucking difficult no matter what.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

So I was talking to a client this weekend when they were out here, and he was asking me how much he should train a day. And he's like, I just have a hard time remembering stuff. And I asked him, I said, Well, if you have a hard time remembering stuff, should you be training for two to three hours a day on different things? He's like, Well, I want to get through all of it. And it's like people have this misconception when it comes to even training or like studying that they have to try and fly through as much as they can versus study for 15 minutes and then for the next hour go back through everything you just studied for 15 minutes so you remember it. You know? And he wasn't doing that at all. And he's like, I'm not seeing results, I'm studying for three hours a day. I'm like, is it new information? He's like, Yeah, but I just can't remember it. I'm like, And go back. Like, go like, yeah, man. Some of these people are just lost. But then it starts to get boring.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Bitch, that's because you're starting to actually remember it.

SPEAKER_00 40:08

Yeah. And he asks that. He goes, How do you do the boring shit over and over and over again? I was like, I know no one else is doing the boring shit over and over and over again. And you know, when you're doing the boring shit over and over and over again, you're actually retaining the knowledge and doing things other people aren't willing to do.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

Well, it's like I was like that on the other podcast, is most people get, you know, their fucking rocks off by just thinking about doing something cool. Yeah. And then if they ever achieved it, they'd probably get a fucking good dopamine hit then. Yeah. But all that bullshit in the middle is just the same muda over and over and over again, and that's where most people won't get it.

SPEAKER_00 40:37

It's just like going to the gym every day. I know so many people who skip the gym every day, but then you get a text or a call from them and they're like, I don't know why my shit's not working out. I'm like, Do you go work out today? No? I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

Yeah.

Boring Work, Consistency, And Confidence

SPEAKER_00 40:48

There's like step one. Like, I had a guy uh back out this weekend that I've worked with for a long time, and he stopped going to the gym, stopped doing his stuff, and guess what? He's putting the weight back on. His business is going backwards. And I'm like, well, bro, like you had the play. You were running the play. And then you stopped doing the play because he got comfortable. He started making like good money, right? And he got comfortable and just all of a sudden went backwards.

SPEAKER_01 41:09

Yeah, you can't just stop what got you there. It's not just the business, it's everything. It's the gym, it's your relationships, it's the business, it's how you perceive yourself. And guess what? If you perceive yourself like a fat ass and that's what makes you rich, then go be a fat ass brother. Yeah, dude. Wow, man. Most people don't. Most people need the confidence. Most people need to borrow confidence. And the best way to borrow confidence, you could be a 400-pound motherfucker, go to the gym one day, rip up your triceps. I promise you, you take your shirt off that night and you start looking in your room like, ooh, is that shit popping? No, it's not.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

It's just your mind telling you it is. Well, and the biggest, the fastest way to build confidence is do the stuff you don't want to do consistently. So if you don't want to do the gym, you start doing it for two days in a row, you start to feel better about yourself. I don't want to do crack. He's not gonna do crack.

SPEAKER_01 41:56

Should I do crack?

SPEAKER_00 41:57

I guess. We're gonna Facebook live it and see how Jonathan does on crack. Honestly, I don't know how he uses Zins. I did a Zen one time, he probably has one in right now. Guys, I was on the floor for three hours.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

Did you see Tucker Carlson's? It wasn't an ad, it was a podcast he did about how people use Zins. No. Okay, so he had so he owns ALP for anybody that's not familiar with the nicotine culture. ALP is a competitor to Zen. So he was on Theo Vaughn's podcast and he was pitching ALP as a nicotine pouch for your mouth. And then he quoted some stupid survey where he's like, yeah, because I read somewhere that like 80% of people that use Zen actually put them up your butt. And I didn't realize they were for that. Zins are for you to put it up your butt. So I was like, I really like nicotine, so I decided to create a nicotine pouch for your mouth. Oh my god. Jesus Christ, that's the best.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

That's so funny. It's marketing at marketing next level, right there. That's so funny. Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't know that's why you put what you do with your Zins. Did you guys know Jonathan did that? Because I had no idea.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

You're supposed to put them on your boat, but I use Alps. I found out they were for your mouth, but I'm like, this is way easier.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

Way less of a mess. Less mess, easier to put in. You don't have to go to the bathroom to do it. Although I will say, when you fart, it does help. That's creative.

SPEAKER_01 43:25

Yeah, it was like I was laughing at first, so I'm like, wait, this guy's just marketing, this guy's punching his product right on his podcast in a genius way.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

That's so cool. That's so funny. Yep. I love hearing stuff like that though. I love the marketing space, it's really cool when you actually dive into it and start learning it. Alright. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

Last thing we're gonna talk about is how social media is rewiring how we think. Did you have any input? I uh dude, I just see people on it all the time, man. Well, everyone's on it all the time, but think about this. When was what's the last movie you've watched? Uh dude, I couldn't even tell you. One, movies suck nowadays because we've gone two pieces.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

Home alone, probably around Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 44:06

Okay. But like, do you remember who was I listening to? Joe Rogan had two actors on, two huge actors, and I can't remember their damn name. This is latest drop or whatever. And they were talking about how people used to, you know, back in your old days, because you're old, you know, you used to go to the movies occasionally, like in high school and shit, you'd go to a new movie, or you just go to because there wasn't anything. And then you go back to like even before us, you know, you would go to the movies because you had like a little 12-inch screen, like the size of my iPad, and it was blurry, you couldn't see a damn thing. So, like the movies is where you went and saw a good movie. Well, there's a couple things that have happened now. One, obviously, screens in your home have gotten bigger, Netflix, Paramount Plus, you can watch whatever the hell you want. But here's really the big thing is we have been trained to focus no longer than a minute. I can most reels don't even make it a minute. Most of them are that like eight to fifteen second mark. What's your drop-off rate on your reels? It's like fucking heavy at the six minute mark. Yeah. Or six minute, I wish. Six second mark, yeah.

Social Media’s Short Attention Rewire

SPEAKER_00 45:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's about I'll make six to ten usually, depending on the reel. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

Yeah, you've got well, you've got about two seconds to grab someone's attention. Yeah. Facebook now to to decide whether or not they skipped is only one second. If someone makes it on your reel one full second, you get credit for that as a viewer impression or whatever the hell it's called. And then yeah, I have a I have about 80% to the six-second mark and then just declines. Yeah. So I'm interesting as fuck. So that's telling me that y'all are fucked, not me. This is you problem, not me, because I always wait till 10 seconds in the reel. Dude, it's true though. And it's shorter at times. We should go to all the reels that I send you on Instagram, and you should have to read the titles to the audience. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 45:56

We could do that someday. It'd take like an hour, probably, but we could get it done.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

And then never be visible on social media again.

SPEAKER_00 46:03

Shadow ban for the rest of our lives.

SPEAKER_01 46:05

I just need to wait till I got 20 million in the bank first. Dude. So when I stack 20 million in the bank, whether Greg's there or not, we're gonna read through. I'd have to be there if we're gonna read through the reels. He set me. So how this is gonna work. And I should have stayed in college, but I think I need 200,000 of you to buy a seminar ticket. I'll drop my link below. And if 200,000 of you wait, no, it's gonna have to be true. It's gonna have to be a little bit more than. Ah, fuck it. We'll go two. If 200,000 of you buy a seminar ticket, I'll let Ray Greg read all the reels titles that I send him. And you will judge me. That's okay. They're not that bad.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

There's a few of them. There's a few, but they're not that bad. They're really not that bad. Not anymore. Dude, social media's changed everything.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

Three years ago, if I sent you those reels, you would have canceled me.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

Oh yeah. Yeah, I just I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

Maybe I'm just desensitized to it now. I have no idea. I think everybody is. You know. Well, because you're just tired of getting called a racist and uh what else do I get called? Nazi. A Nazi, white, asshole. That's not even misogynistic. Been called a lot of things. My favorite is finding out I was white.

SPEAKER_00 47:19

Yeah. Jonathan's white, everybody, in case you didn't know that. Need to zoom in on him so you can see his face.

SPEAKER_01 47:26

Kind of sad. I always always thought I had a little bit of Mexican in you? Yeah. And then I mean, honestly, I'm black from the waist down here. Yeah, and then they have to stay on my content longer to type that much.

SPEAKER_00 47:43

Yeah, yeah. So I mean, at least it's like good in that sense that people that hate you are watching your your stuff past six seconds.

SPEAKER_01 47:50

Well, and they're I mean, they're kind of educational. Some are. One of them told me, oh, the other one we get quite a bit is the cheap podcast equipment. And even though this is our cheap setup, although it works pretty well, everything around us right now costs more than your fucking car, so fuck you.

Community Shoutouts And Closing

SPEAKER_00 48:12

Yeah, our podcast equipment's pretty cheap. The green screen we got is really good though.

SPEAKER_01 48:17

Yeah, this is good green screen. Yeah. It's one of those 3D ones. Oh man. I do like how there's like$5,000 of podcast equipment downstairs and we just don't use it. There is. Yeah, just sitting in the storage shed. Yeah. It's that expensive designer brand, too.

SPEAKER_00 48:35

Yeah. Just sitting downstairs collecting dust right now. In my storage office. It's way more fun to be outside and do this anyway. It is. So I get vitamin D on my sweatshirt. Oh, what is today? Monday?

SPEAKER_01 48:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:48

Okay. Cool.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

What happens Monday?

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Well, I have a call tomorrow at nine o'clock, and then you have one on Friday.

SPEAKER_01 48:53

Oh, yeah, for sales. Lucas is on Thursday too.

SPEAKER_00 48:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

So my question is actually, if you've made it this damn far, you're a true follower, and I appreciate that. I've got two slots left. What do I got? Two slots left. Monday and Wednesday. Yeah. Monday and Wednesday. We need to have someone from our group, the Elliott group, run a call. Sales training, mindset training, I don't know, whoever you like. So if you've watched it this far, let me know who you'd like me to invite to run Monday or Wednesday. Because I've invited a couple people, but they bitches. That's true. I say, make a link, and they're like, and I'm like, shut up. Dude, that's so true. So but how many people know you because you just do random stupid shows? What did I tell you? I said just get on social media and do a shit.

SPEAKER_00 49:37

It's crazy. People come up to you and they just have a conversation with you and they're like, oh, I see you in Sales Nation. I'm like, oh, that's cool. Or they're like, I see you do the like I love your freaking call.

SPEAKER_01 49:46

And I'm like, that's terrifying. You're a bad person.

SPEAKER_00 49:50

I love your content. I'm like, or they're like, oh the best one was I've seen you in Jonathan's podcast. I'm like, no. Like, you don't want to see that.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

Hey, does everyone think Greg looks like me? No. I don't think so. Dude, I've gotten that so much though. Really? He's like, you and Greg look like the exact same. I'm like, no, I'm black. He's white. Well, no, you are white. You got told that on TikTok. Maybe that's why. You are white. I never saw it. He is white. Damn it. No, I've had a couple people mistake me as you and had a conversation, and I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? And they look closer and they're like, you're not Greg. And I'm like, no, not all white people look the same, asshole. And then uh Oh, I love that. I had someone down there at the thing on Saturday night was like, I like you're in Greg's podcast, but you guys look alike, so I get confused talking to you. I'm like, I I'm a fucking solid 10.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

We need to start playing what the game the twins do and messing with people then. I don't think you could do that. I don't. It's bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 50:47

Also, for another pitch, if you would like some Cuban cigars, let me know. Oh, cool. I got the little wrap. That's good to light them with. Well, I don't know. Alright, I got nothing else. I'm just rambling now.

SPEAKER_00 51:00

That's 51 minutes, dude.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Alright, perfect time. Later, people.

SPEAKER_00 51:04

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