Episode 25 - Calvin's 2% Rage

Matt took a genetic test with Ancestry.com, and the results sparked a family crisis. Listen and find out why. 

Transcript

unknown 0:18

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

I have a um uh an update that I would like to make. It's one that I've been trying to make. It's about a genetic test I took. Um it's kind of a funny story.

SPEAKER_02 0:31

Are you like is that one of the gen a genetic tests to trace your ancestry?

SPEAKER_01 0:37

It is. It's a genetic test for to trace your ancestry through Ancestry.com and 23andMe. And I did those genetic tests. That's kind of interesting. Is it okay if I talk about it?

SPEAKER_02 0:50

Yeah, I'll go for it. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Okay, so basically, um this happened a while back, or maybe I don't know, a year ago or six months ago, something like that. But anyway, my wife had taken the 23andMe genetic test. Okay. Okay. There's two there's multiple companies that do this where they essentially send you a test kit and you provide a sample of your saliva and you mail it back to them, and in a lab, they uh run these tests, these advanced tests, to trace your ancestry based on, I guess, maybe blood traces in your saliva or something like that. But anyway, I don't know exactly how they do it, but that's the process. And my wife had done this like you spit into a test tube and you mail it back to them, and they do tests on it, and then they give you the results, like a few weeks later. And my wife did that, she uh first her brother did it, Alex, and then she did it because she was like, I I want to see, and their results were nearly identical, but it turns out actually siblings uh the percentages that siblings inherit of a given ancestral trace uh it can vary. So you can have a brother and sister, and they don't have exactly mirrored genetic uh test results. And what these tests do is they essentially trace the DNA back to geographic regions uh or like back to DNA types that they've identified that it looks similar to that sort of come from certain populations in the world. They can break apart your DNA and say, okay, we're seeing this percentage from Germany, this percentage is coming from India, whatever it is. Right. And they'll give you that. So that printout. So um my wife did the test and she was like, You should do the test. She was like, I want you to do the test too, that would be really cool. And she was like, You should do the test. Okay. So I went with the same company that she and her brother had both gone with, which was 23andMe. I did the test, I spit in the tube, do the process, mail it back to them. And it takes a little time, it takes a few weeks for them to do the tests and get back to you. Um, so I got my test back, which was cool, from 23andMe. Uh the results that it said, okay, it kind of works its way from broadest down to most specific. Okay. And it starts with the larger percentages and breaks it down, works its way down. So what it so I'll just read exactly what this test results said. It said European 98.2%. And then it said uh British and Irish, it just sort of like lumped them together, which was uh interesting. But it said like British and Irish 68.1%, and then it said German, mostly black forest region, 23.3%, and then it said broadly Northwestern European, whatever that means, I don't know what that means, 4.9%, Eastern European 1%, um Southern European 0.9%, uh Italian 0.9%, so less than 1% slightly, and then it said sub-Saharan African, Ghana, Nigeria, Liberia, 1.5%. So I'm 1.5% black. Nice. I'm one of the brothers. Nice. Um, but so this is the the interesting thing is I didn't expect that, okay, and no one had ever known about or talked about that at all in any way, shape, or form. And as a matter of fact, um, my grandpa is pretty into genetics and and uh tracing our family ancestry and heritage, and he had done, you know, he's from an older generation where they didn't have these more advanced tests. So he would do things like go to the library or the can whatever the places that stores a lot of public records and find, you know, volumes about people we were related to and try to pull up family trees and paste them together and all this stuff. And what my grandpa, who was really into genealogy, had told me uh was that we were part Native American and also part Jewish, like Ashkenazi Jewish. Um and his last name is Schneider, which comes from Germany, like Schneider. And Snyder is a name that can s swing both ways, it can be Ashkenazi Jewish or not at all, and it can go both. Some names are more likely to really just be Ashkenazi Jewish, some German names are more likely to be Jewish, such as Goldbloom. So my grandpa s told us for years, like literally, I was raised thinking that I was a small part Jewish and a small part Native American, like Cherokee Native American. And there's a lot of Americans who will like there's a lot of white Americans like me who will tell people, I hey, I'm part Native American. That's true. Some of them are, but others probably aren't. Now you have proof though. So now I did this test, right? And one, not even a single trace of Jewish of any kind, Oshkenazi. And they'll tell you on these tests, they I've seen it on these, they will say Ashkenazi, and they'll give you a percentage. Not even a 0.001%. And let me tell you, guess what? If you're part Jewish, your genetic test is gonna show it. It might not know how to identify some obscure, some obscure thing of a country that a hundred people are from or some island somewhere. They might not tell you that. Yeah, but it'll tell you if you're Jewish. Yeah. So I'm not Native American at all. And I'm not Jewish either, but I am part black. And guess what? That was another little tidbit my grandpa left out of the story, and or just wasn't aware of. I think he wasn't aware of, you know, what 1.5% black. And I mean it's a small percentage, but it's there, yeah, you know, and it's like no one ever talked about this. And when I read my results back and saw that pop up at the very bottom of the results, guess what? I was shocked, but I was like, wow, that's kind of like interesting. Yeah, so I told my mom, I told her, hey, mom, I took a genetic test with 23 in me, and it disproved some of the stuff grandpa has been like telling us. Right. Like we're not Jewish at all. We we don't have there's no Native American on there, and there's like 1.5% African. My mom was like, Well, you know, those tests aren't always correct. Right. And she was like, I think the African might be from your father. And I was like, okay. And I was like, Do you have any do you have any proof of that? Or like, do you have like a reason to think that? And he's like, Well, you know, your father's from the south. He's from his family's all from Arkansas, and you know, it's you know, it's we don't know what those people were were doing, and we don't know, you know, so I think it's probably from your father. Yeah, so my mom was like, seemed weird about me telling her these results. Right. And I was like, why is she being so fucking weird about this? Why is it like uh but she just was she just wanted to just invalidate the test? She's like, Yeah, those things don't they don't really work. It may might might be flawed. The data is maybe wrong. Because she was like, you know, we had a Native American ancestor. She was an Indian squaw and she married um, you know, one of our family, and that's why we're part Native American. And I was like, mom, we're not part Native American. I know grandpa's been telling us that story. There's no way that woman was an Indian squaw, a Native American squaw, because this I took this genetic test, there's no Native American on it. And she's like, Well, I don't know that those tests are really real. You know, they might be wrong. And I was like, okay, whatever. So, so, so I text my grandpa next. Okay. Um, and he promptly offers to give me the money to retest with a different company. So he offers me like $130. It's not cheap to do these, right? He offers me like $130. He's like, I'll send you the money. I want you to retest with Ancestry.com.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

Like, this is how much my family doesn't want to be part black. So I was like, in my mind, I was like, it's not gonna be any different. The results are gonna be like the same. Yeah, but you know what? If it uh proves that this stuff is real, um, I guess I'll have the last laugh.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Yeah, I'm kind of I'm curious I'm curious if you will get the same results because you know this is an interesting test. Like, I kind of want to know, you know, because I've always I've seen them too, and I always assume, yeah, that's only gonna work for Americans because they probably have their databases mostly like Americans, so it won't I can't I can't do it, but no, I've I've always been curious about it myself because you know India has also had a history of like conquests and populations coming in. Have you ever done one of these things? I've never because I I just always assume that it's only for like Americans because they're so mixed, yeah, because they're so mixed, and I'm guessing since it's an American company, their database of genes is mostly American.

SPEAKER_01 10:50

But well, dude, I'll tell you, I didn't know I was some of those things. Yeah, yeah. So you might be surprised.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

I'm kind of yeah, I kind of want to I want to try it. I might try it to be f to be honest. You might be surprised just to see. Yeah, but uh I'm really curious whether you get the same results.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

Uh yeah, and I was like, if he's gonna finance it, sure, I'll I'll do it. It's a uh so so so I order the test from Ancestry.com because those are the two biggest, those are the two biggest names in genetic testing, Ancestry.com and 23andme.com.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

Yeah. Yeah, so I've definitely heard of Ancestry. 23andMe I think I heard it recently, but right.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

So I think my grandpa was like 23andme, I don't know if that's legitimate. I've never heard of that.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

And I'm like, okay. So I order, he he like sends me the money, I order the test from Ancestry.com, make the account, I spit in the tube again, send mail it to Ancestry.com, had to like take it to the post office in a in a sealed envelope thing and everything. Right. Drop it off at the post office.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

You know, yeah, I think with your uh uh with your grandfather and your your mom, I think it's just that they grew up kind of like believing something, so yeah, like something suddenly you've it's been challenged. So I I don't know, maybe it's that's why there's so like no way we gotta be sure about this.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

No, definitely there's definitely an element of that, especially I think for my grandpa. Um because he researched it quite a bit. Yeah, he had put like time into researching it, and I don't think he wanted to be surprised or to feel like he had been wrong.

SPEAKER_06 12:32

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

And uh, you know, I think his ego was on the line a little bit there. Yeah. It was weird how quick my mom was to like shove it over to my dad's side, but I mean, yeah. Yeah, so so your dad's the black one.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

There's no way it's me. That explains why you and your dad are so good at the guitar, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

Well, hold on, we don't know that it's through my dad yet. Let's not jump to conclusions like my mom did.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

So the result is you when you played that guitar and playing those solos. I was like, there's some soul in that boy.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

Where I get my rhythms coming from somewhere. It's deep in my roots. I got those southern roots, bim it. Uh so anyway, uh, I get the results back from Ancestry.com, right? And I sign into my account and I look at the results. And I will now read for you the exact results I got back from.

SPEAKER_02 13:29

Wait, you already got it back? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

This all this stuff happened like a year ago. Oh, oh. I've just never talked about it.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

Yeah, yeah. It's it's an it's kind of an awkward story, and it was an awkward experience for everyone involved.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

And so Well, let's hear, let's hear. I'm curious, I want to know what Ancestry said.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

So I get the results back from Ancestry.com. Of course, I mean my my hands were practically shaking with excitement to open this thing. Okay, so I look at the results. I'm gonna I'm gonna read for you the results, the exact uh readout from Ancest Ancestry.com.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

And the really interesting thing is the results are very similar, but the way they word it and how specific they were about certain things is different. And so the Ancestry did actually reveal I would say more specific things than 23andMe did. Okay, so Ancestry.com results, England and Northwestern Europe 26%. Okay, Scotland, 21%. Okay, I was like, fuck yeah, brave heart, baby. Yeah, I was like, that's cool. 21% Scottish, holy shit. Like, I didn't know I was almost a quarter Scottish. Yeah, that was kind of like int that was really interesting for me. Um, and and 23andMe didn't even mention Scotland. Yeah, it was really wild, and so then, but I guess it was lumping Scotland. 23andMe was just lumping lumping Scotland in with Ireland and England, yeah, as like Celtic basically.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

So Ancestry.com was uh kind of better in some ways, but so uh Scottish 21%, Welsh, like Wales, 20%. Oh I never knew that I was 20% Welsh, that was really interesting too. Um and then it said Germanic Europe, um, whatever that means, 10%. And then it said Norway 8%, and that was another thing 23andMe didn't even mention at all. No mention of Norway. There you go. Eight eight percent is like us, you know, it's like I mean, it's a chunk, and it's like uh so it was interesting. Ancestry highlighted that one, um, and then it said Ireland seven percent. And I always thought I was more Irish than that, so that was interesting too. Okay, um, France four percent. I was like, holy shit, okay, didn't know about that. Um, again, 23andMe didn't even mention it.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

Um natural love of croissants.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Uh yeah, and then it said uh Sweden and Denmark, two percent, and then at the very bottom, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Cameroon, and the Congo, two percent.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

Whoops.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

So right there. There's your African right there. There it is. There's your black. Yep. Um 23andMe gave it 1.5%. So not only did my grandpa uh lose that bet, but they raised it to a higher percentage.

SPEAKER_03 16:38

I was gonna say it doubled out.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

So now it's two percent, a nice round number. So I then, you know, messaged him back. Yeah. So yeah, so I told my grandpa, yeah, he still didn't believe it. Um, he still wouldn't. I don't know if he was just uh messing with me. I don't know what his game was, but it was like he just wouldn't accept it. He wouldn't like believe it. Yeah, he's like, these tests, they don't, you know, we don't know what they mean. And it's like I just got tested twice by two different companies, and they both said I'm two percent African. What do you want? You want me to do another? It was so funny. So he wouldn't accept that. And he's like, I don't and he still wouldn't accept that we weren't part Jewish and part Native American. He still to this day tells people that we're part Jewish. Yeah, and when I hear him say that shit, I'm like, no, we're not. We're just not, we're just not. I mean, you can make it up and pretend, but but it's not true, there's no evidence of it. Um, in fact, there's evidence to the contrary, yeah. So then my next thing was, man, I really want to prove that the black comes from him. Not my dad because I bet it's from him, you know. Like, how perfect would that be? The guy who's least uh willing to accept it. I want it to be from him. So I then I wasn't speaking to my dad at this time. I hadn't spoken to him in years actually. I now I am now. Yeah, thankfully, now we've resumed communication, we have a nice, you know, uh long-distance form of relationship that's like peaceable and it's it's nice. Um different story for another day, but anyway, the point is at this time I wasn't really talking or communicating actively with my dad at all. And I hadn't talked to him in years, so I couldn't ask him directly. I I had heard from my sister that he did a genetic test with Ancestry.com at one time. Oh, okay. So I knew that he knew exactly what his genetics were as well. All right, but I I didn't know what they were, so I I m texted my sister and I told her what was happening, and I was like, and um I wanted her to get tested, but she didn't want to do it, didn't want to pay for it. And I mean, my mom didn't want to, I think my mom just didn't want to know or didn't want to deal with it or didn't care, all of the above. So nobody else would do it. Um, so I was like, Laura, can you get dad's you know, DNA test results from Ancestry.com? Like, because I'm not talking to dad, obviously, but could you just ask him for those and text them to me? And she was like, and I'm like, I need you to like text them to me, like get him to screenshot it, get him to I need evidence, you know. Yeah, yeah. So right, not just words. Um, so she was like, Yeah, yeah, sure, I'll work on that. And she did that, and she got his test results, and guess what? Not a speck of African. So at this point, I knew beyond any shadow of a doubt. Uh uh, I mean, there was no darkness about it. No, I'm just kidding. Um, I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was from my mom.

SPEAKER_04 20:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Which means it was either from my grandpa, the one who doesn't want to accept the results of the test, or his wife, my grandma, Betty. And let me tell you, my grandma is whiter than a sheet.

SPEAKER_06 20:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

I mean, she is a white lady. And so my and you know, my grandpa has a little bit of an olive complexion. Like, he's I mean, you know, he's white, but he's not the whitest looking dude you've ever seen. Didn't you meet my grandpa?

SPEAKER_02 20:37

I did, I did, I did. I met them, bet your grandma and your uh grandpa, yeah, on your mom's side.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Yeah, you did when you came to Maryland. You totally did. And so, I mean, like, it's like when you see my grandpa, you're not like this is the whitest man I've ever seen in my you know, I mean, you it's like he could tan like a bit, you know, like yeah, kind of an olive complexion. Like it's you kind of don't, you know, you don't know for sure. Um, and and um people say that about me sometimes too. And you know, it's like, you know, I kind of inherited that olive complexion from him. And anyway, so I I didn't know who was part African, but I figured if I had to put my money on it, probably not my grandma, because she just looks so white. Yeah, uh, she's actually where the Norwegian comes through, and she really kind of looks Norwegian, like um she looks really white. Um, so I was like, I bet it's from my grandpa. I was like, I was like, at this point, I'm putting all my chips down that it's my grandpa, you know. Okay, so now I had this evidence that it wasn't from my dad. I sent it to my mom and my grandpa to show them. I was like, mom, it's not from dad. It's from you. You're the bl you're the black one. So I sent her this, you know, and You know, she hemmed and hawed and I mean I don't think she really cared. I think my grandpa cared much more. Yeah. Again, partially partially because his ego was kind of on the line, because he's, you know, researched this stuff. Yeah. But so then in the in the months after that, I had time to sort of digest it and think about it. And I remembered a store a story that my grandpa would always tell us that his ancestor, um, like through his mom's side, I believe, was this preacher, um in I think in the Northeast, and he married a woman. And then we're we're talking about someone who's like my great-great-great-great-great-grandfather type thing. And he was a preacher, he was like a Protestant preacher or Lutheran or something, whatever it was. And he married, in my grandpa's words, married an Indian squaw, like a Native American woman.

SPEAKER_05 22:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

And you know, I always just accepted it. But so what my theory is after finding out definitively that the African is not through my dad, and it is through my mom, um, unless there's a family secret that none of us know about, you know what I mean? Yeah, which was also a thought in my head, just at because of how much they were all like protesting this. It was like I was having all kinds of thoughts go through my imagination. But assuming that everything is what we know it to be, um it's through my mom. And so I remember this story of this this Indian squaw, this this Native American squaw that my grandpa would tell. Um, she would help him in his preaching efforts, whatever the story was. And so for generations, like my family has believed that we're part Native American because our relative married a Native American woman, okay?

SPEAKER_04 23:54

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

Here's my theory. We know I'm not part Native American. Like I'm not. Um, I took two tests. Yeah, I'm not Native American at all. So, but we do know that some woman in my family past was telling people she was Native American. My theory is because of how racist society was in those days in America, and because there was nothing that you could be that could be lower than black at that time in society's racist eyes, I believe she was part black, maybe half or whatever. And I think she told my family she was Native American to sort of pass. They called they called it passing in those days. And I think she probably thought, like, well, I can't tell them I'm white because they can't I I don't look white enough to just pass for white, but I think she kind of thought, well, what's something that sounds better than just being black to them, to these ra to the racist whites of society? And I think she chose Native American because it was kind of like the next, but she was like, Well, at least it's exotic.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

Yeah, right. Yeah, because I was gonna say, like, back in the day, it wasn't like Native Americans were looked upon favorably either. There was a lot of racism against them, too. Well, it just I mean just shows you how anybody who wasn't like that's true, you know, Protestant English kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

They hated the even the Irish. Even the Irish, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

They hated the Irish, they hated a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

So there was a lot of racism and a lot of hate and bigotry in those days.

SPEAKER_02 25:34

Um Hey, you don't know, man. I mean, you know, it's sad, but maybe she she might have even done it to escape like slavery of some kind, you know?

SPEAKER_01 25:43

It's possible. I don't know. It's possible. I mean, I th you know, yeah, it's possible.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

There was some, yeah, there were like some, you know, anti-devilian laws back then, you know, like really.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Well, as a matter of fact, I mean, after learning of this, I mean the cool thing that came out of it was it really sort of encouraged me to learn a little bit more about the history of slavery and what really went on. And um, because you learn a little bit about it in school, but when you're when you're taught things in school, it doesn't sink in the same way as when you seek out with an open mind that same information on your own terms.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

In those days, I mean, literally, slaves were property, like they did not have any rights, which is so difficult to wrap your mind around. Yeah. But literally, black slaves in America they had no rights. Um and sometimes um a slave owner would have sex with a slave and have a baby with her. Right. Um, what would happen is, first of all, you know, it's like there's no way to know to what degree in each situation it would be called rape. But the truth is, because the power difference is so vast, yeah, even if that girl was acting like she liked him, there's no way to be able to justify that re that interaction as being totally okay because of the incomparably vast uh sh difference in power dynamic. True. Uh the even if she didn't want to sleep with this guy, she what what is she gonna do? Say no? She doesn't have the right. Either way, um if a baby was born in that way, like a half black, half-white baby, let's say, and um they would still be w out in the fields with the slave, like they would still live with the slave, they would still be considered black. So you had to be like leagues less than half black to you had to be like less than half black, I think, to sort of be given full citizen rights and all these things and not be treated as if you were black and not be treated as a slave. So I kind of learned about some of these things and like they would they could still be treated as a slave if they were born, you know, half black, even even though they were half white. Um it's wild. Yeah. So yeah, I don't if if that is what happened in my family, that this poor woman, you know, kind of like had to lie about her identity just to not have people hate her or treat her differently. I think uh that I don't I mean, look, I mean, I'm I'd be the last to judge her or to it's like I can't blame people in those days for trying to pass as white. But it's also just really it's nice to like learn uh things and it's it's a really cool truth that I got to learn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

To your to your kind of like existence in a way. Yeah. Uh it is because it's basically it's it's kind of like forced you to look at your past a little bit, right? It's interesting. Totally. And I mean, I don't know if your great grandfather knew this or not, but he did marry her because so he must have you know had feelings for her and everything. So that that that is in some way is a redeeming thing.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Yeah, and also he might have known that she was part black. He just might have been like, Yeah, let's let's keep it on the down low. Like, I'm with you on this. Let's not let's not tell the rest of yeah, let's not tell the congregation and the family we don't want to deal with Bill the Butcher about let's uh keep it on the down low around Bill the Butcher. He he won't take kindly to it. Yeah, she's like she's like, what could we say I am?

SPEAKER_04 29:42

He's like, I don't fucking know anything.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

How about Native American? Yeah, yeah, they'll they'll totally buy it.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

Do it. Wow. I know, because like I mean, yeah, because like you're we're sitting here and you're like, we could be like, why didn't she why didn't you say she was Brazilian or Spanish or this? But you know, at that time, like they didn't know much. What's a Brazil?

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Yeah, what's what's that? Like what's a Brazilian?

SPEAKER_02 30:11

Is that something you tan your shoes with?

SPEAKER_01 30:14

They're from a country called Brazil.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

Is that in Canada? Who knows if there even was a Canada back then? Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Yeah, that's a whole other I would love to know if you need to tell us the history of Canada now that you live there.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

I mean, you know, I don't know, I don't know how far back we're going here because like yeah, we don't know. Um yeah, we don't know like when this when this this person existed, which time frame, but it's definitely yeah, it's the point in time where it was pretty bad.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

And the most important thing takeaway from all of this is if I ever in the future, if I ever tell the band they're off beat, yeah, they better just know uh I'm for real.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

I know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

I know if anybody knows, and you have documentation to prove it. Do a test to prove it. So I've had a couple times people ask me if I was part Middle Eastern or whatever. Yeah, I don't know. I know that. These days, these days I whip out my genealogy paper and show them. I did that to a guy recently. He was like, Oh, you I mean, you don't have to show me, but I was already like halfway into taking this out.

SPEAKER_06 31:25

You're gonna look at this.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

I worked hard for these results. Yeah, oh man. Oh man, I'm glad I finally got to tell that story because I've been thanks for listening. It was long.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

Yeah, but we definitely went over over a little bit, but that's okay. That's okay. But but it's a good way, it's a good segue into like what are your parting thoughts.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

What are there any parting thoughts you have, or is there anything positive that you would send people off with?

SPEAKER_02 31:51

I I mean I can't I can't not say this based on what we just talked about, but I will say that you are the product of history of many things. I'm an undercover brother. A lot of things happened to put you where you are today. So yeah. Yes, the it's so true.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

And you don't, and and this is what I'll say is that you, I know whoever you are listening, I know that you think you know exactly what you are. But I you don't know, you don't know until you know.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

Yeah, I want to take that test now, but you do you should.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

I think I might I would love it. I can't wait to I want to see your results and 100% Indian. I'm like, this is I can't think I paid $150 for the shit tax. Yeah, it's gonna be like 99% of his family's from Bangalore, and the other one percent is from you know one percent unknown.

SPEAKER_04 32:52

Yeah, 1% Neanderthal, one one percent tiger, one percent, yeah, one percent cobra. I had some crazy ancestors in India.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

I mean, you might be part cobra.

SPEAKER_04 33:06

That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

Hopefully, it's a king cobra, if anything.

SPEAKER_03 33:09

But that's my my thought is that, yeah, like you, a lot of things happened.

SPEAKER_01 33:18

Yeah, you don't know who was sleeping together in your past. You really don't.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

You don't know, you don't know. Dude, and then there's just two people too. They were just people like you living in a different time, crazy shit.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Dude, and then this you know what this made me think, dude, this made because especially because of how weird my family was acting about this whole thing, it made me think my mom side specifically, it made me think, are there like families that have has this like broken up the marriages? You know what I'm saying? Like, what if a kid does the test, gets results back, and it show shows it to their dad, and he's like, uh, that's not what I thought your that's not what your mom said.

SPEAKER_02 34:00

Or you know, like or or he gets back the test and it's like 60% or 50% Spanish, and it's he's married, and it's like so she cheated on me to Indian parents, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

Like how she cheated on me with Antonio Benderis.

SPEAKER_03 34:16

You said nothing happened when you went to eat pizza.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay. Oh man. So okay, so what are what are your parting thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_01 34:26

Oh man, I mean, I can't beat those, but I mean, um I guess um I mean, I would encourage people to do the that test as long as I mean I will say I know there's a caveat, which is that some of these big companies that do this, some of them have not been discreet enough or responsible with people's tr information, and there's been major lawsuits about it. Okay. Okay. Have you heard about some of that stuff? No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was like all these lawsuits against 23andMe for like giving out people's information to companies that bought that basically bought like bid for that information and paid them for it, which is really fucked up. Yeah, uh, so I did delete my 23andme account and all my data on their site um after like downloading it, but uh don't so yeah, like don't don't use, I guess don't use 23andMe, but like there there are many companies that do this. There must be a way for you to do it. I don't know what the state of Ancestry.com is, but I would encourage people to do this test because one, it's really fun and interesting and it's eye-opening, and you will learn things from it. And what I find really cool about it is that I mean, if anything, I think it works against racism because or prejudice because what you learn is that you're a lot of different things, at least most people are, especially Americans. So, you know, it's kind of stupid to uh be racist because you're probably part, whatever that thing is that you hate.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

I mean, the when you first told me this that you were 1% like from Africa, I was like, oh, 2%, sorry, yeah, get it twisted. Don't don't don't dumb it down. Don't you dumb down when I I was like two percent, yeah. I was like, that makes sense because I just assume like that isn't that the cradle of civilization. A lot of people came from there, so like I was like, you know, you I kind of thought I thought that too, but it's not really.

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Um it's it's not it's not like that. I think I I'll bet you a lot of people think that it's not like that. Like when it says I'm four percent French, like I'm four percent French, right? I'm two percent African, you know what I mean? Like people from Africa, not not like original man from whom all races descended, type shit, but I think it means I'm pretty sure it means that somewhere in the last like 400 years, someone in your family, you know, had sex with someone who was at least part whatever that thing is. Right, yeah. I think that's kind of what it means. But uh that being said, I I guess I could learn um dive into that a little bit more as well. But yeah, that's kind of my that's kind of my understanding of it.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

Yeah, that's a good yeah, that's a good good place to like leave off, I guess. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

Do the test, it's really fun. It's it's eye-opening.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

I'm actually, I think I'm I was gonna say I was gonna say, I'm I think I'm actually ordering it right now.

SPEAKER_01 37:27

Yeah, dude, you should. That would be awesome. Oh my god, I would I totally want to know what you are. Yeah. I want to know if you're actually a hundred percent Indian or if there's other stuff.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

I mean, I don't I I don't I don't have high hopes because like I I know for a fact that it's um you know I'm looking at it right now and it's like it seems like it's it's very much like uh you know North America specific, but why not? I I don't mind at least giving it a shot. Yeah, it doesn't really like you know it's just it's harmless fun at this point. Plus, I think my brother would get a real kick out of it if I um if I got it and I was like I shared the results with him because like I think we would have a lot of similar um genetics that way, so or like obviously ancestry. So yeah, let's see. We'll be back next week with my ancestry details.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

Go get it, go get your genealogy test, guys.

SPEAKER_02 38:23

Yeah, this this episode was sponsored by Ancestry.com.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

Just kidding. Yeah, totally. Oh my god, okay. I'm gonna get a check in the mail from Ancestry.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

Thanks for stopping by. Love you guys. Have a good week.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

Bye, bye.