Todd & Adrian Perlmutter: Creativity, Community & the Revival of Parksville

Catskills arts, community revitalization, live entertainment, and immersive events take center stage in this exciting episode of Full STEAM Ahead. Gary and Judy Siegel sit down with Todd and Adrian Perlmutter to explore how creativity and the arts are helping transform Parksville, New York.

After connecting through their work on the Blue Man Group “Megastar” tour, Todd and Adrian moved full-time to the Catskills and launched the Parksville Arts Center in 2024. Their nonprofit organization brings together music, theater, film, immersive experiences, and community programming designed to inspire creativity and connection.
From the Too Short To Suck Film Festival to the Parksville B’Kawk! Festival and the Decrepit Ghouls Variety Show, Todd and Adrian are creating imaginative events that bring new energy to the Sullivan Catskills while supporting artists, audiences, and local culture.

Tune in for a fun and inspiring conversation about creativity, collaboration, independent arts, and the power of community-driven projects.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:08

Welcome to Full Steam Ahead. I'm your co-host Gary Siegel, and together with my wife Judy Siegel, we represent the S in Steam Fund, the Siegel Trust enriching arts and music. Our mission is to support musicians, artists, and the venues where they share their gift. The Catskills in Hudson Valley have always attracted creative people with big ideas, and today's guests are helping channel that creativity into something truly unique for their community. We're excited to welcome Todd and Adrian Promutter, co-founders of the Parksville Arts Center in Parksville, New York. Todd and Adrian first connected through their shared passion for music, performance, and live entertainment, eventually working together on the Blue Man Group Megastar Tour. After moving full-time to the Catskills, they saw an opportunity not only to create original artistic experiences, but also to help bring new energy and connection to the town of Parksville. In 2024, they officially launched the Parksville Art Center as a nonprofit organization focused on fostering creativity through music, theater, film, immersive events, and community programming. Through projects like the Too Short to Suck Film Festival, the Parksville Beacon Festival, and the Decrepit Ghouls Variety Show, they're creating experiences that are imaginative, accessible, and deeply rooted in the community. Today, we talk about their creative journey, the inspiration behind the Parksville Art Center, and how the arts can help revitalize and reconnect small town communities. So before we dive in, we'd love for you to join our community to learn more about the Steam Fund. Please visit SteamFund.org, like our social media pages, follow us on Instagram, subscribe to our YouTube channel, and share these episodes with your friends. It's the best way to keep the arts and the music and the conversations moving full steam ahead. So without further ado, welcome Todd and Adrian. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Thank you for having us. So we always like to start out these podcasts with what would you like people to know about Todd and Adrian and about the Parksville Arts Center? Tell us, tell us your vision, who you are, what would you want the world to know?

SPEAKER_01 2:28

Well, uh you you got our our mission statement perfectly. The only thing I would say is it's Bacok, not Beacock.

SPEAKER_06 2:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

So yeah, the Bacok Festival is one of our big three main events that we do every year. And yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:52

Is that is that kind of like what what would you want the world is that what you want the world to know about Todd and Adrian? Is there more? Is like are you centered? We'll go into each of those items, each of those events.

SPEAKER_04 3:03

So like we're side we're side characters. The Parksville Art Center is what we're kind of focused on. Um we do we're involved in all the events that we do. You know, we're we're doing we're doing theatrical events and music events. Um we're the decrepit ghouls, we're both perform in it. Adrienne's usually the lead. She's like plays the lead female character in it. And um I played drums in the in part of the show, but but uh it's really about that thing in particular is about like getting all of these people. We have 50 people to come together to put on this show. And not only is it something that um is the the audiences are enthusiastic about, but the people doing it, the 50 people involved are it's you know, many people say that it's their it's their favorite time of the year to be involved. I mean it's uh it's like uh um I think there's a lot of creative people up here, and we're part of our mission is to, you know, just help like uh put a spot to bring the creativity to.

SPEAKER_06 4:08

So so when people come to your events, uh what do you want them to walk away feeling?

SPEAKER_04 4:12

Like what I think what I what I really like to hear is like I could I can't believe how cool that was and and that it happened here. It's kind of like a weird thing. Like I don't in a uh in a vacuum, like I wouldn't be like uh you know, it's not like I want people to to say, oh, it's so great for here, you know, because that like kind of demeans it a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 4:40

Trevor Burrus, Jr. No, you pinch yourself and you say, I'm in Parksville, New York. A lot of people are saying that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

And I think it's in terms of what what I want people to take away from Todd and Adrian, it's definitely the events um and it's the community engagement, but um we're also really just trying to build Parksville, New York into um into something that's really, really uh memorable and and amazing. And so we have a couple of buildings. The Parksville Arts Center is a building that we're trying to restore. It's an old, old synagogue that we're trying to restore and sort of, you know, give that back to the community, and we're trying to beautify the community, and we're trying to we're actually trying to turn the whole town into like an arts district of liberty because it's a hamlet of liberty.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

So um, and it is for people that wouldn't know Parksville, it's literally not quite a block long. It's very postage postage thing. Yeah, it it was it was bypassed by the highway many years ago, and so there's these buildings that that have been utilized gently over time, sometimes not so gently over time. So you guys have come in.

SPEAKER_06 5:45

People remember Parksville from Poppy's Pancake. Now it just says poo. Now it just says poo. Yeah, that that's just a little too appropriate. So they changed the P to an O? Like a piece of it fell off, and now all that's left is.

SPEAKER_03 6:03

So let's go backwards, okay? Um talk a little bit about how you became musical, how you became creative. What's your history? Who who are you?

SPEAKER_04 6:12

Mr. Pooh. I was uh you know, I played music since I was a kid, and um I started playing in bands. I was in a band that got signed. And then uh but really the bulk of my adult career life was I worked for Blue Man Group. I was I started off playing drums in the show, and then becoming the music director and then a creative director, working on material for the show. It was an amazing time with a a lot of amazing creative people, uh friendships and collaborating and learning how to manage people and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

How old were you? What was your what's that time frame?

SPEAKER_04 6:50

I was in my I mean I had been in a band that was uh that was signed and then the label folded, which was tragic, and that happened when I was like twenty-five.

SPEAKER_05 6:59

What was the what was the name of the band?

SPEAKER_04 7:00

Orangutang.

SPEAKER_05 7:01

Orangutang.

SPEAKER_04 7:02

Yes, and I still play music with two of the guys in the band and uh and you can see them at our events up here.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

One of them lives in Liberty.

SPEAKER_04 7:10

And one moved one moved to Liberty.

SPEAKER_03 7:13

Because of you, guys. Yes. Is that how we got it? Yeah, well, you know.

SPEAKER_06 7:17

And and you're a drummer. So so who are your musical influences? Are there drummers who are who influenced you?

SPEAKER_04 7:25

Yeah, well, as a kid, I mean, my main influences were Stuart Copeland and John Bonham. I like like those two disparate, you know, drumming styles were the ones that like really spoke to me and the ones I listened to all the time and tried to like you know figure out what how I could get in the middle of both of the their weird things. John Bonham with the just like power rock scenario. And Stuart Copeland could do the magic thing, which was to play something that was a complicated polyrhythm, but have it not sound mathy or complicated. Just sounds like music. And uh and I think and getting into Blue Man, which which involved a lot of group drumming and weird instruments and uh and that kind of thing, really like I think I was waiting to get involved with with something like that, and then and just the group drumming. I mean, we've watched some of the shows we did where there were 20 drummers on stage. Like really fantastic experience. And then and Adrian was uh I was in charge of the music for uh Blue Man's first um like big arena tour called the Megastar Tour. There was there was one before that, the complex tour, but then and then we were looking for someone who could like hold down the uh you know, be like a singer in front of all like there was a ton of drummers on that show, and then and in Big Arena, and who's who's gonna be able to hold it together, have enough power, and be able to deliver something? And Adrian auditioned and was like, I mean, you know, w her our our recollections of it are different. I know that there were like you know, at least a hundred people, and it was like I kept s seeing people like wimply over sing, and then Adrian came in and was like, whoa, that's the one.

SPEAKER_06 9:13

So be before we get to even that, yeah. Let's talk to Adrian about your musical journey and how you know how you grew up with music or what's your history with music.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Well, I went to performing art school when I was very young. I've been on doing stage performance since Baltimore Actors' Theater Conservatory. Trevor Burrus, Jr. You love Baltimore. Baltimore is great. Um So that was you know when I was when I was young and you know, I grew up taking dance classes every day and doing self-ge and sight singing, sight reading and all kinds of different, you know, musical theater aspects. Um but then you know I just went to a normal high school and I sang in a funk band in college.

SPEAKER_04 9:55

Normal high school.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

Well, it wasn't an arts high school. I mean it w they we had artistic programming, but it was I went to McDonough in in Maryland, which is super fancy. Um, it was that's what he meant by it. It was super fancy, very privileged. Very nice. You went to an abnormal. Very private, um but a really, really great school. Love my teachers, everything was was was great. But I in terms of music, um, I mean it was it was great for music, but it wasn't a performing arts high school like he went to. Trevor Burrus, Jr. And did you still study music or dance throughout school? And even in college. Um but then it wasn't really until after I moved to New York after college that uh that I started singing in bands professionally. Um and that just was never something that I w was gonna do uh as a career. I mean, I was I have a geology background and I was working in concrete labs and in New York and neither of them are exactly the careers that say this financial school.

SPEAKER_03 10:52

Well, it's a rock stardom really.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

That's the goal, right?

SPEAKER_01 11:00

Um, your drums here. Yeah, we're gonna be able to do it. But I, you know, I kept going back to the singing thing, like I would be quitting my job in order to go on tour. And you know, so that just kept happening. And then so I just sort of fell into it, I guess. Um I always had something to fall back on, like my dad always said. Geology. Yeah, geology.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Um and then that turned into gemology, and I worked in the diamond district forever. Um but then uh, you know, it was after after a while, uh, just the singing. I was kind of doing both at the same time for most of my adult life, was doing both. Had the day job and then also did, you know, bands. Uh and unless I went on tour, and then I would quit the day job and then come back and find a different one. But it was always the music always came first.

SPEAKER_04 11:44

But the blu blue man job was years long.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

The blue man two or three years of touring. So I didn't I did not have another job when I was doing it.

SPEAKER_06 11:53

So before we get to that, what's your version of how involved with your audition?

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Oh, in my in my version, only six people auditioned. Not true. I was like, there were only a couple people that auditioned, and um, but I I don't actually know that number. So I guess.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

She's like, there were six people, and I was just the best of those six.

SPEAKER_03 12:18

And did you guys start did you connect right away just as as well? No.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

I mean, I remember very distinctively the first time I I actually saw Todd in action because even when I was auditioning, he was in, you know, he was in a completely different section, you know, I was in the booth and he was in the control room. So I didn't, you know. But I remember uh when we first did our first load-in in Reading for Blue Man Group that for that tour, he had uh he had rented because they were all arenas. So he had rented roller skates for the entire staff and everybody was just rolling around on the concrete, and I was like, this guy's cool. I want him to be my boss. Rolling a baby. He's definitely not your boss. Now he's my husband. No, but it took a long time. Like we we were after the blue man group tour, we were in a band together, and then we became friends, and then uh what was the name of that band? The Get It. The Get It.

SPEAKER_04 13:11

The Get It's The Get It, which still sort of alive too.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

Was supposed to have a gig Saturday, but that fell through, unfortunately. We were supposed to do a gig at the station in Kingston, but or Woodstock Woodstock for that matter.

SPEAKER_04 13:22

But we were yeah, we we were already in a band together for years before there was one uh uh you know, we were always with um different people or I I mean like long-term relationships and stuff. And then there was New Year's where my girlfriend didn't show up, and I think Adrian was like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_00 13:41

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 13:42

It was like eight years. I think we've known each other for eight years ago.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Something's happening. I think I want to move in on that.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

So that journey ultimately led you, this is a big leap, but that journey ultimately led you to Parksville. So how did that happen? How did we get from You was in pro dating?

SPEAKER_01 13:59

You were in Parksville long before I was I was in the picture of his wife.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

Yeah. You as a couple you didn't come to Parksville. No. That was Todd.

SPEAKER_04 14:07

No, but I did, but I only had the property. I have the I had the property without a house on it before we started dating. And before we started dating, I was uh I was talking to her one time. I had a canoe. And I was like, I was like, hey, do you want to come upstate?

SPEAKER_01 14:24

And can go canoeing.

SPEAKER_04 14:26

Go canoeing.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

She's like, am I a boss? That's weird.

SPEAKER_04 14:31

No. So uh yeah. She said no.

SPEAKER_06 14:34

When was that? What year was that? Oh God, 2017.

SPEAKER_04 14:37

2014 or something. I think the house went up to the city.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

No, that was well, God, now who knows.

SPEAKER_03 14:45

It was a while ago.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:47

So and and Sullivan County, New York, we have a lot of lakes and we have a lot of of it's it's rural, it's beautiful. So it's a couple hours from New York City, and it would have been a nice journey for you. Did you not come to Canoe?

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Is that I actually came up during a Fourth of July celebration that where our band was playing. Yeah. And that was kind of when it when we st when we started. Yeah. Fireworks. Fourth of July. Um that was fun. But the house is already built.

unknown 15:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

I mean, we we moved here together full time after the pandemic. That's kind of when we started, and then purchased the synagogue in 2020.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

And what possessed you to think that was a great idea? I mean, I've seen that synagogue. So it's an old, it's I'm gonna say it's a hundred-year-old building because there are other buildings. You know, Livingston Manor has a hundred-year-old synagogue, so that we're really familiar with. Um so it I know also there's a rail trail behind it, so I pass it often. It's obviously abandoned. Like that's what I would say. And I have never known it to be utilized. So what made you look at that space and say, this is a great idea we want to do this. It was beautiful and it was cheap. Uh yeah, I would imagine it was cheap and really inexpensive.

SPEAKER_04 16:06

It was cheap. There's a lot of cool vibe in there. Like as soon as you walk in, you get you get a you get a feeling for it. And it seemed like a great place to to get people to to convene. And we were just looking to sound, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:19

I think initially Todd really wanted to put the his music studio in there. And that was the first big thought that we had about what we were gonna do with that building. But we mainly also just wanted to get it back to its original grandeur. You know, there were these beautiful tin ceilings that had been covered by the drop ceiling, and there's beautiful oak floors that had been covered in linoleum, and we really wanted to.

SPEAKER_06 16:42

It's not stained glass, is there?

SPEAKER_01 16:44

There is a little bit of stained glasses in in the sort of upper uh sections of the windows, but there's a balcony upstairs?

SPEAKER_06 16:51

Yep. So what's what's your plan with the building? How how you know what what are you planning on with the renovations and and what it's what is it gonna be?

SPEAKER_04 17:04

For the bathroom. So we were like one of our questions was how much of a drag is it if every single bathroom has a different tile.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

It's like it's an art center. We want it to be fun and funky and he's like, I guess if you want to do that, sure.

SPEAKER_04 17:17

Now he's a he's a he doesn't sound like that. He sounds like this. That was a good idea. So um we're we're uh you know we're mid renovating, we're doing redoing the ceiling, which is you know gonna be painted and and there they had to be fixed. There were some tiles that were rotted, and and uh the synagogue before had put a drop ceiling on it. I guess they just didn't want to deal with it, which was not good looking at all. Sorry. I'm sorry, you guys, if you're watching. But now the ceiling is like that's a fully exposed and paint it.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

Restored and it's it's gonna be really pretty.

SPEAKER_04 17:52

They're actually we're meeting them tomorrow morning to they're working on that like right now.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

It's finally starting to really pick up the work. We had to take the beam out. We had to take the beam out because the you know, it was in the center of the room, right? We left the arc. Um, and you know, we're working closely with SHIPO, and we have a grant for the building. Shippo, it's the historic preservation, the state historically. They're, you know, I mean I know that they're pretty strict with what they what they allow, but you know, you have to adhere to these rules because you're you're you're using state money. Right. So we we work with them. And we and we want they they also know you know how to respond to the money. Yes. So we we wanna we wanna do what they say and everything, but it's been you know, there's avenues that you have to take.

SPEAKER_04 18:41

And there's some artifacts that we're going to uh that came in the building that we're going to try to restore and preserve and kind of put on display, like a little tiny museum section upstairs. We have the the curtains for the Torah are still there and they're pretty cool. And that's old. They need work though.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

But we're and we're still in contact with the you know the the congregation head and she's you know it's very the the building is very dear to her heart and so we want to honor yeah we want to honor her and we want to keep keep it keep it looking cool and we want to put some things on display and I think that would be fine.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

And what's the reception how has the reception been? What has the reception been from the Parksville community, from the Liberty community, from the the For the for the actual building?

SPEAKER_02 19:30

For all of it, I think.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

I mean I think most the building I don't think people really know what's happening. I mean we have something. You know, art from Manor Inc. is gonna be doing update. I know when we open, we're really gonna go big about about I mostly what we've been doing is our programming has been off-site. So the programming has been mostly at New Memories, which is another amazing um gallery space in Parksville, New York, that we're who we work very closely with, the owners of that building, and they've been amazing and gracious in allowing us to do stuff with them at their place.

SPEAKER_06 20:00

So this is breaking news. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Breaking news right now.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

I think we thought we we I think we thought that turning it over in into be a usable um building was gonna happen a lot faster. But then when we realized that it was gonna take some time, we were like, well, we're already we're already motivated to to be the Parksville Arts Center and let's start doing let's just start doing events.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

So our events have been getting really, really great reception.

SPEAKER_03 20:29

So we've And is that from the local community or for people who come from elsewhere too?

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Both, but I think mostly local community really. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_04 20:39

We got people coming in from I mean the Bacocks had people uh come in from the Midwest to go to California. We've had a couple come from California, and then a bunch of city people. And we have um we have kind of like a big another creative group of people that we work with that's from the Kingston Woodstock side of the Catskills. And so they come to a lot of things. I mean our West side. The Bacock, yeah, the Bacok has is definitely like pulling we we have a definitely a large uh crew of like Brooklyn, Manhattan people that come in for that. It services mostly locals because that's what we're trying to do here, like offer this thing. But there's it's starting to to become a thing where people are like, oh, we're making that trip. That's the trip we make every year. We go to the Bacock. And then the um the Decrepit Ghouls the That's our Halloween. That's our pre-Halloween show. The host is of that show, he was a blue man, and um he is currently the host of the Absinthe show at Caesars Palace. And uh he takes two weeks off every year to fly out from uh Vegas to do our show in Parksville. You know, and then that show we have like uh performers from The city, performers from Woodstock, Kingston, you know, like a really fantastic local crew, too.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

From the Claryville, Parksville, Liberty sort of area. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Yeah, but they're just coming in.

SPEAKER_04 22:12

They're coming in from we had a we had a guy do uh projections from Virginia. Remember that guy came in like we're we're um Ian is from super far north, isn't he like by Albany or something like that?

SPEAKER_03 22:24

I'm not sure. I don't know. These are like volunteer gigs. These are paid gigs. Uh like, we're working towards paying people.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

But but we would not pay them.

SPEAKER_03 22:34

I mean, we're really, really hoping to just this is about showing your own creativity and what you're doing. Could you talk about Bacock? Like what's it about?

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Tell telling you, it is a chicken-themed outdoor live music and vendor festival that is free at the moment. Um we want to keep it free and accessible for the whole community and for people of all different economic backgrounds to be able to come. We have a bar, we have last year we had four different food vendors that were amazing. Um, and we had about twenty or so craft vendors, just people just an assortment of craft vendors.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

At New Memories in Parksville, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

This is actually this is actually on Main Street in Parksville. That's there's a big lawn behind one uh a building that we're r that we're another building that we're renovating, which is an entirely separate.

SPEAKER_06 23:22

So before you go on, this is probably a good opportunity for the viewers and the listeners uh to to say to them, you can make a donation to the Parksville Art Center. Yes. Yes, you can. And maybe where where would they where would they do that so that so that uh where would they go to the Parksville Art Center.com and donate.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

Which is PAC.com. It's kind of fun because there's like all these these theater packs. So Parts Parksville Art Center just cuts out the rest and just goes to PAC.

SPEAKER_06 23:52

I like not-for-profit, so that it's a tax deductible to the laws. So the extent of the laws that the IS allows.

SPEAKER_04 24:00

I mean eventually we're uh we're we got our nonprofit status a couple years ago, and we're still um we're still figuring out uh how to you know how to utilize it you know a little bit more each year. We've been getting aging's been getting grants like crazy.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

I mean, pretty, you know, like not as many as I'd like, but we're trying to it's a huge learning curve to writing grants has been. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 24:24

You'd like to have a uh galaxy. One of the things coming up.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Well when we open the building, I think we're gonna we're definitely gonna have more events, more fundraising events, and hopefully be able to pay our amazing staff.

SPEAKER_04 24:37

Yeah, because that's basically the deal. The decrepit ghouls, I'll just take that as a as a r an example. It takes fifty people to do that production. That would be a production like that in any other normal scenario would cost eighty hundred dollars, you know. So eighty dollars. It's fifty people work on it, and there's only you know, you we can get uh you know, a hundred in there. It's like it's cost money. And we're not charging $100, you know, we're charging we charge twenty-five. I think we're doing thirty-five this year.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

I think we're gonna do forty this year.

SPEAKER_04 25:11

We're gonna do forty this year. We need to be five, anybody forty five? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Yeah, but it's half of what it's I mean, that's it's a really incredible show. It's a really incredible show.

SPEAKER_04 25:22

The um I mean, you know, people pay eighty dollars to go see the headless horseman.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

And I've heard, honestly, part of the reason we wanted to do this interview is because I was in Hurleyville, New York, and somebody was talking about the decrepit ghouls and and saying what an amazing production it was. And like I hadn't been there, and they're like, you you don't know what you're missing. You need to go check this out.

SPEAKER_06 25:42

It's a lot we were in Van Smoky's in Livingston Manor, and they were talking about the same thing. So it seems to be the rage. Well I mean New Memory.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

New Memories is a 27,000 square foot warehouse space that Marcus and Alley are building out. Um, and it's you we utilize a lot of it for the decrepit ghouls. You're basically moving in and out of all these spaces and having different experiences with different ghouls and so what is it?

SPEAKER_03 26:08

Tell me I haven't been there.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

It's fully immersive. I mean you know, you I mean Well the Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:13

The the uh I mean that's one of the things about the like the the quality where people come and see it and they're like, this is the best immersive show I've ever seen. The the staff, I mean a bunch of my our blue men, my blue men friends from uh you know working there for the 19 years. Last year the f for the first time we had um the lighting designer who was a uh a blue man guy and now he now he's a total hot shot. He owns this business in in the city. And he came up, he was just gonna help out a little bit, and he came and he just saw what was going on. He's like, oh, all right, I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna get involved way earlier next year. I'm gonna help you out a lot more. I can I know how to get you more gear. Because it's the thing that we're doing is we're doing creativity at a high level, and that's what is the main thing. It's not like we're not we're not trying to get into these other things. We're trying to like make the most amount of creative joy that we can bring. And in this scenario, you're utilizing a space that has different kinds of performers in different rooms, and the and someone's experience is like, oh, in this room, I saw you know this uh this music blew me away. In this room, these actors were doing this crazy thing. In this room, the set was in I've never seen anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

And then we had a severed head chorus in one of the rooms. Severed head chorus. Hard to sing. Four part harmony. It was hard. Yeah. Yeah. It was hard.

SPEAKER_04 27:44

It was hard to mic up. I couldn't find my line. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

It was really hard to mic up. And then with you know, you're singing in four-part harmony with three other people that just and just just your head. Uh yeah, severed heads.

SPEAKER_04 27:59

Heads were on top.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Yeah, we were heads were sitting on platters. I see. Um but it was it was I mean, and that's just one room, and usually and every time you go in, it's a different experience because you know you've got everybody's interacting and so wait, you have different rooms in the space and and and guests will then go to each different room.

SPEAKER_06 28:22

They can wander about at their leisure. And is there like a program or is there or is it just like loose?

SPEAKER_04 28:27

Yeah, that's well the way the way it works is that the uh everyone walks into the to the first room and there's some things happening and and a band is playing. And then uh and then in the first act, we're setting the scene. You're you're finding out that you are in uh you're going to experience the peculiarium. You know, you're gonna experience Zoltan's world. Zoltan is the host. And um and that's you know, about a half an hour long or he starts off dead and gets resurrected every year in the first act.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Yeah. So he's always there. He's always there. I see. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:04

That last year, as soon as his face showed up, the audience started going bananas right away. Like, ah, so there must be a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Yes, elaborate sets. We had a puppet we have a whole puppetry thing that happened where he was birthed out of the guts of another monster, and we had gut puppets. Um, that was pretty amazing. That was a whole different thing.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

That was another year. That was a whole different thing. So but the so you were together in one space, and then when that act is over, you go out into the rest of the space, and then you're there was a maze, and there's a lounge, and there was last year the last year's theme was uh was it was on a cruise ship. So you could go and see the ship's doctor, you could go to the spa, the on on uh onboard spa.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

And what happened when you went to the onboard spa? Well what was that?

SPEAKER_04 29:53

Well, the first thing that happened was you were greeted and that so in memory in uh New Memories, um there's a a guy there, Jordan, who's renting a room and he does um. And um what he did was he with one of our uh performers created a motion capture uh receptionist. It was wild. So she's the receptionist. The motion capture receptionist was in this crazy, you know, looking computer generated outfit, but she, the actress, could see you on camera and talk to you.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

And interact with you. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

And so as soon as you went in, she'd be like, oh, you know what you need to do. You're gonna have to go to the nail spa or whatever, like whatever she's gonna do. She was a gull, you know. She was a ghoul.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

Like this AI-generated, you know, dead undead person. It was amazing.

SPEAKER_04 30:51

And the spa was in a maze, so you get stuck in the maze, and then and there was uh It's amazing. You have creepy kids running around.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

So who comes up with these Who is the creative genius? Todd.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

Todd and and Michael, who is Michael are the main You and Michael does.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

Michael Quentin, we're talking about a year and a half before me. We've had the same and we worked together at Blue Man for a long time, and we've been friends for a long time. So he and I uh do a lot of um the setting it up, but then there's also we have performers where we say, This is what the setup is. We want you to do something in the maze. What can you do? We had two blue men last year that were they just came up with these Eastern European Masseuse characters for the spot.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

And they're so talented. Like the talent is just mind-blowing.

SPEAKER_06 31:50

Is there food there? Is there a There was a gross buffet there? There was a gross buffet.

SPEAKER_04 31:54

There was a butcher. It's called the Gross Buffet.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

No, there's a bar. There's a bar there. The bar actually moves around. It's really cool.

SPEAKER_04 32:04

Um, so you can't really get on. You can't sit at the bar.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

The main bar you can sit you can sit there.

SPEAKER_04 32:11

Uh well, let me tell you something about the bar that was funny this past year. Was uh Zach and Yale, Zach Max, who you interviewed. They were the bartenders, and Zach had just to be in it, he would start off each night. We do three shows a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Matinee. He'd start off each show like kind of looking part ghoulish with like a mummy, like sort of bandaged, sort of bandaged up. He would he would get it would be worse and worse as the evening got on.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Fully bandaged, and then like bloody bits like falling off of him.

SPEAKER_04 32:45

But just and he loved it.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

And all of his art is in the show, too. Awesome. Everywhere you look, there's a Zach mass.

SPEAKER_06 32:53

This is a good place to transition, maybe, because Zach told us about the Too Short to Suck festivals.

SPEAKER_04 32:59

He won an award last year.

SPEAKER_06 33:00

I know he won an award, and I know he's making I know he's making uh a uh little short animations this year.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

So tell us about the Too Short to Suck Festival. That's coming up. That's May 30th. Get your tickets at everyone in May. So even if somebody's listening for another year.

SPEAKER_04 33:18

TSTSfilmfest.com. We just got um this this year. So TSTS. This is the third year we're doing it, and we just got the website this past year. Marcus put it together. Thank you, Marcus. And uh the the uh TSTS Film Festival uh is everyone's movie is on two minutes or less. Okay. Too short to suck is what TSTS does.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

So we do this with mem with new memories, the the four of us sort of doing it.

SPEAKER_06 33:42

So can you describe it?

SPEAKER_04 33:44

Describe the event and what what people do to why or So the the main thing that I think is is unique and interesting and fun about the event, the film festival, is that because all the movies are so short, at uh at six o'clock you show up and there's a red carpet event, step and repeat, paparazzi, get your pictures taken.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

There's a bar.

SPEAKER_04 34:05

Lest stone does his amazing portraits that you can check out, Lest Stone Photography. And and uh that's from six to seven. Yeah, he's good. From seven to eight, we screen thirty films. So the the They all have to be under two minutes. They're all under two minutes. So in one hour we screened 30 films, like a big bulk of the film. This year, it's more like two-thirds of the film. And uh and then uh right after that at 8.15, we have the awards festival. The awards festival. With two hosts, and the award ceremony uh with these two great hosts, we have production numbers in that, and that's like a full-on Oscars type you know event. So you get everything in one night, just all you know, a Hollywood experience in this short way.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

How do they how are they?

SPEAKER_04 34:53

We have judges, the the uh uh this year's judges, we have Patty Beery, she was a producer on Enora. I mean, these are pros. Uh Michelle Negrapante, who is uh a uh local documentary filmmaker and professor of film. Um uh Michael from Blue Man is a is uh a judge. And yeah, so the judge we don't we're not the judges. We're just who knew?

SPEAKER_03 35:17

Do people dress? Is this like a gown?

SPEAKER_06 35:23

We have a red carpet. Is it like our dance? Is it a packet carpet or like a tiger?

SPEAKER_04 35:30

We uh uh this year I actually wanted to do those the search lights, but the event starts too early. You won't it would be a waste.

SPEAKER_06 35:37

So you receive these films and and you've received more than thirty, I imagine, right? Yes, yes. You'll have uh a panel that vets them that cuts it down to to 30 films.

SPEAKER_04 35:51

I mean actually the first two the first two years we showed every movie.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

Trevor Burrus This is the first year that we can't. This is the first year we can't show everything.

SPEAKER_04 36:02

But I think it's a great I mean it's a very uh uh what's been sort of exciting about it is that this the format evens the playing field a little bit in that we have uh submissions that are coming from filmmakers and professional cinematographers and people in the industry and also like a twelve-year-old with an iPhone. A twelve-year-old with an iPhone or or and complete amateurs or friends that are like creative but they've never made a movie before. But because of the uh because of the categories that we have that aren't like regular, you know, Oscar categories.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

Yeah, we have like a weirdest premise category.

SPEAKER_06 36:44

Yeah, what are the what are the categories? Weirdest premise.

SPEAKER_04 36:47

Like we had our friend uh uh Ramona won Weirdest Premise last year. She had made this movie about she ha I don't know that she wasn't planning to have this movie made, but just she lives in Brooklyn and she uh there was this piece of goo on the stairs in her subway stop, and it would move and and she just started taking pictures of it like 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

And then over the course of she just made this film with all the with all the photos.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

No, that same goo, but it kept moving around and then it would be. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_04 37:27

Yeah. But I mean like something. So she's never made a movie before, but she was up uh and won awards with uh you know with other people who are like professional uh uh cinematographers. And there's um you know and then also yes, with some young people won some awards. I mean I remember the first year there was a there was a student uh she was a film student that won an award and she couldn't believe it. And we're like, oh, you're pretty good. Yeah. So the just the evening of that um scenario, and now we have uh people that are as soon as it's over, they're thinking about their next film. They're like, I can't wait till next year. We've got this thing, I've got this idea. And it gets it gets uh another community building experience because now you have like friends and you know, like, oh my my friend has a camera and he'll shoot it, and my other friend has a a location behind his barn, and we you know, let's and they get people together, and that community create a creative experience that where you're working with people and collaborating like that.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

Which is what we all that we want. That's what we're trying to make.

SPEAKER_06 38:39

Where do they all come from?

SPEAKER_04 38:40

Where where like how are they finding local 95% local stuff? I mean we're getting some things from a little further up, but TSTS is a very that one is probably the most localized event that we that we have been doing. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_03 38:57

But that's so is there a general like each would a person need to go to each of these three websites to discover what's going on, when it's going on, or is there a general pack website.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

So parkshillartscenter.com slash all the events. Yeah, all the events are in the events section there, and you can donate there and you can actually see the progress of the building renovation there. So everything is there. But we you know we have separate Instagram for everything, and we have a separ we we have a separate website for TSTS, we have a separate website for decrepit ghouls.com.

SPEAKER_04 39:31

The thing is is that we're so we're we're part of the issue is that we're um we have different levels. PAC, the Partial Arts Center, has different levels of involvement with each thing. They're not all just ours. Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

The Bacon is the only thing that's just really ours. Yeah. And when is that typically? That is it. August fifteenth. This is usually the second Saturday in August. So this year it's August fifteenth.

SPEAKER_04 39:54

Decrepit Ghouls is October twenty. Third, fourth, fifth?

SPEAKER_01 40:00

Fourth, fifth, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:01

So one's in the fall, one's in the summer, and one's in the spring. Or backwards, yes. That is backwards. Spring, summer, and fall.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

But TSTS and Decrepit Ghouls we do with new memories.

SPEAKER_06 40:13

And anybody can go to the website to find out the dates for each of the things.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

Is there any place else? Are there other are there other events like this that you know of any place? I've I don't know them, but maybe you guys were inspired.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

The Bacok was inspired by Picklefest in Rosendale.

SPEAKER_00 40:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Uh we were just blown away by Picklefest, and I love Rosendale because I'm a cement person, so you know Rosendale was is always one of my favorites. I'm actually cement inside.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

Not made of and and Rosendale isn't all cement. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 40:51

But that's that's no, it's a be it's a it's an adorable town, but that was the be the beginning of Rosendale was they have a very rich ri rich history with um.

SPEAKER_03 41:01

We have a good friend who is very actively involved in the festivals in Rosendale. Okay. I love Rosendale. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

And uh she's uh she's very supportive. Yeah. But Pickle Fest was something that we were we really liked it, and we were like, we want to do something like that. Like dresses pickles and stuff. I don't know. Sometimes, not usually, but it's but it's basically a festival with lots of vendors that has this central theme, which is the pickle. How many pickles? And they have games. They have games, they have vendors, it's a town thing, it's huge.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

Like that's a whole different vibe, right? Right.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

So do you have chickens at Bacon? Yes. We actually this year we had we brought our own chickens, and we'll bring them again this year. That was that was kind of a a really cool thing to have live chickens. But we have chicken games, chicken themed games. People eat chicken. We have a lot of chicken food.

SPEAKER_04 41:52

There's a lot of chicken eating.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

Chicken eating. A lot of our vendors, they make chicken themed crafts. Yeah, we have a chicken, we have a tent, um, a kids' art tent where they make chicken art, and then we have a contest for that. So and we have we have a chicken mobile.

SPEAKER_06 42:07

Isn't there a parade?

SPEAKER_01 42:09

We do have a there not really a parade, there was we had a little bit of a jazz line, like a second line.

SPEAKER_04 42:15

We had a chicken y second line one year. This this last year we had Dallas? Last year the first band was on stilts. Yeah. They were a marching band on stilts.

SPEAKER_06 42:27

And uh that's like I think I played one year in in one of the parades. I don't remember what you did.

SPEAKER_04 42:33

We did the Halloween parade, but that was that was uh before we did the Halloween show. We don't do the Halloween parade anymore, now we do the show. I see. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:40

Um is there a connection between the chicken that sits in Liberty on Main Street and your chicken? We steal that chicken. You know the chicken. We steal that reach chicken. Everybody knows about it.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

We steal it every year. It's tall. It's probably eight feet tall. Eight feet tall, ten feet tall. Very tall.

SPEAKER_01 43:00

I mean, last year we we refurbished it.

SPEAKER_03 43:03

And I walk by it. I'm on the planning board in Liberty.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

I walk by it once a month and think that's a that is just the artists that uh mainly work over at New Memories and and locals. Yeah, Zach and Zach helped Mike Baker and and and James Karpowitz and Marcus. They all I mean, we all So you stole it, you fixed it. They stole it and we repaint they repainted it and patched it up and patched up, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:27

It was starting to rot.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Yeah, no, it was really looking kind of rough. But we did a whole but we did a whole hysterical movie about giving it a makeover.

SPEAKER_06 43:35

It used to be on the dairy barn, I think.

SPEAKER_03 43:36

Yeah, it was not. It was originally on the dairy barn. I don't know if if if that was its original location, but when we when we moved to Liberty um, we yeah, we steal it.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

We put it in front of the festival as if at the entrance of the festival, and then we bring it back. That's very nice to see it back. It's very kind. Yes, yes. And we always make some sort of goofy movie around stealing it.

SPEAKER_06 43:58

It's easier to apologize than ask for proposing.

SPEAKER_04 44:00

Exactly. Well a coup a coup two years ago, the movie because you know we we shoot the the the thieving every year. And uh two years ago, we the movie was that Frank DeMeo lost the chicken. The town supervisor lost the chicken in a poker game.

SPEAKER_01 44:15

Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_04 44:16

And it was the IOU chicken.

SPEAKER_01 44:18

You can see him with his his cigar and his cards in the movie. You just walk right out of his office and walk across the street.

SPEAKER_06 44:25

Frank is a good friend of mine.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Frank is wonderful. We love Frank. Frank is very, very supportive of what we're doing in Parksville. He loves he talks about it.

SPEAKER_03 44:32

He loves Parksville. He loves what what you're bringing to the table. He's very arts. He's a supporter of the arts. Yes. He's been economic development and bringing people in and having people know about our communities. And you know, Parksville, Parksville kind of got a bad card in that the highway went around them. That was bad. And it it it just sort of lost everything. And so it's really it's inspiring to me. I've always looked at it. We thought you're you're taking it in a much different direction than it was our vision, which was that it since it was like this ghost town, it would have been great with brambles going down and like shootouts and the kind of thing. The stumble the stumble. Was there in the Tex-Mex place? Was it the Stumble?

SPEAKER_01 45:17

No, before it was Cabernet Franks. Oh, that was Lorray. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 45:21

Cabernet Frank's tumble in the tumble Big Waities.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

The dead end is what it was called. No. Big Waities. The dead end. It was the big waities.

SPEAKER_04 45:31

The barbecue place. Big willies. Big willies.

SPEAKER_06 45:34

But it was before that or was the stumble. We always envisioned having tumble uh those tumbleweeds. In the middle of the house.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

When we first moved, uh long before we moved full-time, he has always had a vision of shooting a zombie film. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 45:56

That have that zombie.

SPEAKER_01 45:58

That turned into the Decrepit Ghouls show.

SPEAKER_04 46:03

I think our our and we we I'd still after the uh Parksville Arts Center building is open, um, you know, we definitely want to do screenings there. And I d I still have this vision that we could have an event that was a weekend long event where we uh people made zombie movies and then we would have a um you know, we would have a makeup artist on set or a bunch of people ready to get a whole crew of zombies ready.

SPEAKER_03 46:29

Like extras.

SPEAKER_04 46:31

But then those extras could be available for five or six different people's movies, and then we would screen them all at the end. And so everyone would could be involved in this thing, and we'd like to be pitching in together. Because you always every zombie movie needs like a hundred dead people in it, you know, running around. So this would be like, okay, we'll we'll get everybody together in a thing, and then there'll be a barbecue after.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

Or a bunch of glamping or something.

SPEAKER_06 46:56

So the other project that you're doing is you have a building acros across the street from uh and up the street from and and you're gonna put a cafe in, is that right? Maybe a cafe as if we didn't have enough concept to be too. Right. There's nothing else on your plate.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

Which I'm guessing that this is not this is not how you guys make a living, right? This is all just like your creative energy and your heart and soul giving back to the world a little bit. Make a living. This is how we lose a living.

SPEAKER_02 47:25

This is how you live.

SPEAKER_01 47:27

No, I mean, you know, it's it's a process. We're hoping it's an investment. We're hoping that eventually um, you know, we'll be able to live off of our endeavors. But this is actually a good segue into this building because we this is an this is a poor for-profit business that we're trying to open on Main Street. And that's uh the Laughing Cat uh Cafe, which is uh we're we we're partnering um with a friend of ours who actually has uh a coffee business in Reno. And he's basically opening the second one here in Parksville. We already have that coffee business already has um we are the official coffee for Bethel Woods currently. Can people buy your coffee now if they want to at Bethel Woods. You can buy a Bethel. You can buy it at Bethel.

SPEAKER_03 48:09

Not roasting.

SPEAKER_01 48:10

We're not roasting it here, but we will be roasting. We'll be roasting it on site at the building. So we will it's not currently being roasted in Parksell, but it will be. And then we're gonna have a cafe there with a drive-thru window. It's great because it's right off the highway. Uh-oh. A couple blocks away from the highway. And then we are also going to have a bar in that building called Lefty Lucy's. It's also the site hardware-themed. Hardware-themed bar. It's also the site of the book. That's going to be one of the cocktails.

SPEAKER_04 48:37

Oh, one of the cocktails will be the right. But maybe that'll be one in the bathroom.

unknown 48:42

What?

SPEAKER_01 48:43

No, it's not. The tiny whitey drink. But then we're also going to have a commercial kitchen in there, um, and we want to do pop-ups. We want to bring we want to we Parksville and all the surrounding sort of areas. Like we we need better hospitality. We have a cup, we have the double-up food truck, which is a wonderful, a great place to get food. Um but we you know we need to support Kim and Rob and get some more food up in there and just people moving in through through the area.

SPEAKER_06 49:15

So talk a little bit about that, that that it's a double-decker bus, right? That that was converted into a restaurant. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:22

And it's right next to New Memories. And they've supported the events there. The food is great. And that's right up the street from from where we're going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 49:30

And they're servicing the the events that happen at New Memories. It's a really great symbiotic relationship because anytime that there's an event over there, you know, then uh then the you know the bus is like opens opens late. And it's really fun, and they're so accommodating.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

They actually have that on their sign that we close at six unless you want us to stay open later, and then you should let us know and we'll stay open later.

SPEAKER_01 49:52

Yeah, they usually stay open until eight when there's an event at New Memories.

SPEAKER_04 49:55

So we we plant we have this big backyard behind 29 Main Street, and then we're opening the other business. And we're hoping to have this commercial kitchen be like we can do pop-ups, we can get uh sh different chefs in to to service like this, you know, all the people that could sit outside, you know, at an event at at this place. So we're uh uh we're trying to push that along. If people are interested in in uh hospitality type stuff, please let us know. How what's the best way to get in touch with us?

unknown 50:27

Oh God.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Call me, 917. You can write through the Parksville Arts Center, that's fine. Yeah, maybe a better idea. And yeah, I'm just Adrian and I think.

SPEAKER_04 50:37

I mean, we're we we are looking for, you know, food service people, we're looking for uh baristas, we're looking for people to work at the bar, we're looking for help with our events, you know.

SPEAKER_06 50:48

Um people can Is there gonna be music at the cafe too?

SPEAKER_04 50:52

Or that place in the back already has the stage, that's where the bawk happens. So we already have a stage out there and a big PA. And so right now the Bacock is one event that happens in the summer with with you know bands all day, but we plan on having that happen far more often and then just in a more a smaller scale have a stage inside the bar and have music inside as well.

SPEAKER_01 51:18

And a great a great stereo system with a record player.

SPEAKER_06 51:21

So you got Bacock, you've got uh the Crepit Ghouls, and you've got the TSTS festivals, and I mean just for those three and different times of the year for the viewers and the listeners to come up to the Sullivan Catskills and come to Parksville, New York and and support these amazing, amazing events. I mean, it's at least do.

SPEAKER_03 51:47

At least do we have a vision for like five years from now, ten years from now. What what would that what would that look like? Like idealistically or realistically?

SPEAKER_01 51:58

I think for me, I want to see Parksville being very, very walkable. We have the rail trail. I want to see people on rented bikes kind of coming in and out, hopping over to memories to see what's going on there, having something to eat at the double-up food truck, taking your bike to Parksville to the art center where we'll have a gallery opening or something, some sort of event happening, we're gonna have a sculpture garden there, people are gonna be hanging out, you know, doing their work outside. And then as businesses continue to open on Main Street, just go get your coffee, get an ice cream. Just we want Parksville to be um to just be a really fun, alive, quaint little block of a town.

SPEAKER_04 52:39

I I have some goals for the for the show, the shows and the events and things, and that's like w right now we've been uh developing these brands, and you know, we're no one's making no one's making any money. And then money is not a it's like it's not well I want to make money. I want to pay people. I want to pay the musicians. We've been getting grants and we we're we would like it to be that it's not like it's a problem. It's that people are paying and we've figured out the uh how to how everyone that works at the Decrepit Ghoul's variety show, those 50 people, that we can pay them all and uh what they're worth, which is you know, that's a lot of money. And then and uh I mean I don't I think that should be like that's my I personally like I would love for not right now, it's so great people are like, well we'll don't pay us right now, we'll pay it forward to next year. Buy us some more, you know, put it put it towards the set uh uh budget for next year. We're like, okay, that's great. But I want to be like, listen, look forward to this to this week. Everyone's gonna make some money and have a great time doing it. Like I that's part of that thing.

SPEAKER_06 53:49

Well listen, Parksville, New York is uh 90 minutes uh northwest of Manhattan. Um there's a uh huge population there. Um and uh we hope that uh they'll all come up and and uh come to your come to your events uh so that there's standing room only or you have to turn people away. Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 54:12

And there are places to stay and there are there are rail trails, there are hiking trails, there's fishing, there's there's other things as well. So I really think lamping and I mean Livingston Manor is Livingston Manor, it's right for for those that are listening and might not know. It's less it's seven minutes from Livingston Manor, which is uh a kicking town right now. It's carries in my hometown. That's we're both born and raised there, so we we always are are pushing the great things to happen in Livingston Manor too. But Parksville's part of everybody's history, and and it's just it's got such a great spirit, and it's it's a small little postage stamp, it's doable. So uh we're excited for you and to be a part of even hearing what you do is is really awesome. We will we're looking forward to helping spread that word. Thank you. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_06 55:00

Todd and Adrian Perlmutter, thank you so much for sharing your story and and uh and listen, we we have never been to any of those events. So we're we will we will be there. Nice um and uh we'll we'll tell all of our all of our friends and hopefully people will be listening and watching uh this this episode of our full steam ahead and uh and hope to get the word out of of everyone.

SPEAKER_04 55:27

When does this episode drop?

SPEAKER_06 55:28

Um well it'll be soon.

SPEAKER_04 55:30

So then so then you can come to the next event, which would be May 30th. T STS memories. TSTS film festival. After that, we'll probably August 15th would be the Parksville Bacok.

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And if not, you just go to the Prepit DeGool. Parksville Arts.

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Parksville Art Center.com slash events. Exactly. Well, so thanks. Thanks so much for the case.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

Thank you, Judy and Gary, and thanks to Full Steamhead. Yeah.

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