Soulmates And The Work That Makes Love Real

We talk through what “soulmate” really means to us, from rom-com expectations to the kind of oneness that only shows up after real life and real healing. We land on a both-and view: the right connection can feel found, but lasting love still gets made through self-work, emotional intimacy, and daily choices. 
• defining soulmate beyond pop culture and fantasy 
• how faith shapes our view of becoming one 
• why timing matters and meeting earlier is not always better 
• doing the work on ourselves so we are ready for real love 
• love languages and why some connection feels effortless 
• serving each other without keeping score and what “try” looks like 
• hope for people dating and tired of forcing the wrong fit 
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Transcript

Welcome, Wedding, And Mother’s Day

SPEAKER_01 0:07

And welcome to another podcast episode of Relationsmith. I'm Jamie Smith here with my gorgeous wife, Stacy.

SPEAKER_02 0:17

Hi everyone. This podcast is a space where we share our relationship and the conversations we're having, sometimes about hard things, sometimes about lighter ones, and always with the goal of staying connected.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Staying connected. So we had a good time. We were off for the last couple weeks, and my youngest son got married. And that's kind of a neat thing to see. He's got a really nice, awesome new wife. I was gonna say Fiona Sabich, she's his wife now. Yep. And yeah, and Stacy got to meet some of my other family members, and it was really cool.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

And it was a it was a really sweet little event. They r really did it all themselves, which was pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Yeah, saved a ton of money, I'm sure, especially in Tennessee. It's easy to drop a big big dollar sign when it comes to weddings, especially in this day and age. But yeah, so we went to that, and and this weekend is Mother's Day weekend. Happy Mother's Day to you. Thank you. And happy Mother's Day to all those are out there listening. And let's see,

Speakeasy Smoke And Weekend Plans

SPEAKER_01 1:25

what else we got going on? Last night we went to a speakeasy, which was kind of cool, over in downtown Nashville, and lots of fun. Got to hang out with some of our neighborly friends. Yeah. And I would say the only negative thing about it is that we just it was also open cigars and stuff. So it's a such a really cigar. Yeah, such a really neat environment. The this the ambiance was awesome. The way that was laid out was really nice. Very cool. Very neat. I would just say that would be the only negative because we are still kind of like came out smelling like cigar smoke. Yeah, and I feel like I'm suffering from a little second hand today. A little dragging, but you know, I mean, that's kind of what happens. I was telling a guy at the gym this morning. I'm like, I told him a little bit about it, and I'm like, I feel like I'm I'm still coming off of a secondhand nicotine high. Oh gosh. Like my my lungs just don't feel the same right now. Yeah, it's almost like yeah, so just slow moving today. We're gonna head to how do you call that stadium?

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Geotas, I think.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Geotis. Stadium to watch our first soccer game.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Yeah, we've never been.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

The kids go.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

The kids go. They go all the time, yeah. And they love it. And they're, you know, I'm not a big soccer fan, or as they call it in the UK football.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

As they call it everywhere else in the world, it's easy in the US. Easy.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

There's only one football in my heart. But I understand. I heard I saw a meme the other day. It was kind of funny. It was making fun of. So, oh, oh, I know what it was. Nate Bogazi. He's a comedian. So funny. And he did a skit, and they were like, he's like, we're gonna call this sport football. Oh, so we're gonna use our feet. No, actually, we rarely use our feet. We only use our hands, and we use it totally with our hands. So you don't use it all? Yes, we do. Well, how much how much are the points? Well, it depends. It's either one or three. So anyway, I just thought that was kind of silly. Yeah. But we're gonna go see a soccer game. I haven't been to an actual soccer game since I was man, I can't remember. My dad took me to a couple rowdies games when I was a kid, and and I loved it. I mean yeah, I loved it when I was a kid, but I just never got into it growing up or as I was older.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Yeah. I've never been to a soccer game that wasn't where one of my kids weren't unless one of my kids was playing games.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

And that's when they were little.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Little. So it's kind of like just kickball, running around, and fall down and watch the cute little kids. That's probably my favorite to watch anyway.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Funny story. That just reminded me of when my brother played soccer. I think my mom actually got banned. She gets so emotional. Oh, that's great. I gotta bring that up to her. Do I remember that correctly? Yeah, we're gonna have to ask her if she can verify that.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

That's great. That is awesome. Oh, Lydia, that's awesome. I love it so much. That's that's good stuff. So this week, that's a little bit about what's going on with us the last couple weeks. And we're actually we we next week we're heading on vacation. We're gonna enjoy some sun and some sand, and it's gonna be awesome. A well-deserved vacation away from all the just everything. I mean, not the life is bad, but it's just busy, busy, you know, and just constant, and just being able to recoup and just m you know, meditate.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

I'm looking so forward to turning off emails. I'm just at that point right now where I'm like, stop emailing me.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

Yeah, yeah, for real.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

I know you hear me say that at least three times a day.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

For real. For real. Absolutely. So, so anyway, we wanted to step back in this week, and something that's kind of been thrown

The Soulmate Question That Sticks

SPEAKER_01 5:36

around. And the reason I brought up the speakeasy is last night we got into a conversation with one of the guys there, and he's a really neat young guy, and we were talking to him. What is your perspective on soulmates? Soulmates. Yeah, soulmates. So it's no no there is no mistake in it. If you guys listen to us for a while, you'll know that I believe with all my heart that Stacy is completely my soulmate. There is no doubt. And but what does that really mean? There's so many different perspectives out there on what soulmate means. Wanna tap into that a little bit, baby?

SPEAKER_02 6:16

Well, I think that soulmate means the one who is was made for you.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Right.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

It was meant to be.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

I know some people, I've heard some people say that it's maybe not necessarily one person, but any person that you're compatible with and you feel a connection with I guess could I dunno.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

What do you think about the how do you when the people say there is that one person that was created just for you, and that is your soulmate?

SPEAKER_02 6:57

Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

I mean it's an It's a nice sentiment and yeah, but with billion of you know, over a billion people. I mean, what are the odds of finding that person, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:13

I have I do have thoughts about that, but I do think like in my past life I was pretty cynical about true love and soulmates and all that. And and I really kind of thought, you know, is this just something that Hollywood, you know, perpetu dreamed up and perpetuates just to I'm to sell tickets.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Yeah, to sell tickets, and books, romance novels and so on and so forth.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Yeah, and it is it something that's sound looks great, sounds great, but just keeps us all like perpetually discontent with what we have because it's not this ideal thing.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

Oh, I'll tell you, I bought into it when I was younger. I mean, watching all of those, you know, and we we you know, let me see. We s you know, we we call them chick flicks, but I think they, you know, they're trying to come up with a more PC, you know, term for it or whatever, but rom coms. Rom coms, right? And so the idea is, and I fell for him. I mean, I was a I'm a hopeless romantic at heart, and as a young I I love those type of things. And and when is and to your point of discontent, there were just times when I'm like, I see these movies and I'm like, yeah, I'm that guy. I'm the nerdy, goofy guy that finally found the one, you know, and and honestly, never happened until I was older in my life, you know. And you know, I never gave up hope, but I can understand where you get that cynical perspective because you're just constantly hoping and dreaming, and nothing's it never happens. Right.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

It doesn't let doesn't live up to it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

And so Yeah, because there was lots of times I'm like, these darn movies, they make me out to you know, they they set our expectations so high. Yeah. Yeah. And most guys are like, that's why I can't stand these movies like Hallmark and things like that.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

Yeah, can't live up to that level of perfection. But and there I do think still think there's some truth to that, but man, you're our relationship is sort of like that.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

Yeah, it is. And well, and that's the thing. I've never been uh I mean I've always hoped, yeah, never really believed until now.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

And it's still like five years in, I'm still sort of in I don't want to say disbelief, but yeah, just I remain grateful on the daily basis.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Yeah, I often think that Nicholas Sparks needs to watch us for a while and write a write an actual true novel. And then people will be like, no, I don't believe it still.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

Still don't believe it, yeah. And and kind of circling back to the soulmate concept

Hollywood Love Versus Real Connection

SPEAKER_02 10:20

and you know what I was saying, that I was cynical. But the way that I guess by now everybody knows that we are we're Christians and you know the Bible believing folks. And you know, the Bible talks about the two shall become one.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Right.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

And that I never fully understood that concept until our relationship.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Right.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

And now I'm experiencing it and it's incredible. Yeah, yeah, but so that to me is evidence for a soulmate. Yeah, okay. I guess it's makes sense to me that your soulmate is the person that you become one with.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Right. Yeah, I like that. I like that perspective. And you know, yes, and I've I've taught it, I've seen it, I've been a part of it, the whole two become one, and always looked at it from the perspective of, well, this is what is supposed to happen, you know, and never truly feeling it actually actually ever happened, you know, and it was like this constant until I met you. And then it's like, oh, so this is what that's like to becoming one, being equally yoked and and doing life together as one, you know, and man, it's so amazing, right? Yeah. So, but I do believe that this whole idea of just that one person, first of all, you know, whether you're a believer or not, that that's you know, if you believe in the universe or God, and you know, we're not trying to tell you how you should believe. This is just kind of where we are. One of the things we said last night, and we've said often, is that we're not experts, we just have experience. And yeah, I got that in there.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

You said you were gonna.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

I knew. Last night we said that, and I'm like, I gotta get that in there somehow, but I didn't realize that it would just flow just like this. Anyway, I digress. So, but but and and that's the thing I want everyone to understand is that from our perspective, we feel like there might be many people that might fit just right for someone else, but we believe that I, in all of my life experience, and you in all of your life experience, that God, a divine intervention, brought us together and knew that hey, this is gonna work, and you guys are gonna be the example of what I have been trying to teach people throughout time.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

Yeah. Well, and that's you know, that was the conversation is okay, to go down, I'm logically minded most of the time.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

Yeah, so go down the room. She speaks from the head, I speak from the heart, and somehow we meet in the middle and it works perfectly.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, go but going back to your comment of there's eight billion people on the planet, what are the chances you'll meet the one, right? So so if you think of it that way, it doesn't logically make sense. However, if you believe in such a thing as a soulmate, then it circumvents that whole logic because if there is a the one or someone that is designed for you, and then you have to believe that there was some divine being that created that and assigned that, and then therefore it's not it's a it's a very small leap from there to accept that that divine being will also create the scenario where you will meet that person.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

So then the the odds go down.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

Down. Like yeah tremendously.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

So I mean that they get more likely that you will meet that person.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

Yes, yeah. So then it's not so crazy. Exactly. Because I mean you and I have talked about this before. If you would have met me

Timing, Readiness, And Past Lessons

SPEAKER_01 14:50

and I would have met you ten year ten years ago, even, which is really in in in reality not that long ago. But if we if we were to meet each other you get yeah, and then or 20 years ago, I don't think we would gel like we do now. I think life had to happen to us in different ways. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

I don't I mean, that's always a curiosity. A curiosity that we'll always have. We'll never know the answer to that.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Right. Because there's a lot of times I even feel like, man, I wish I just had more time with you.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Yeah, I wish I had more time with you. I wish I'd have met you sooner, and all the ways that all the country songs.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

The things that could have been different in our lives with our kids. But what to your point, would I have been ready?

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Right. You know, in the stories that you tell me and the stories I tell you, you know, we both are like, probably not.

SPEAKER_02 15:43

Probably not. Would I would I appreciate you? Would I appreciate you like I do now if it wasn't for my experiences that I had before I met you? Probably not. Right. Which is so much of I think what makes our relationship as good as it is, right. Is the pre mutual appreciation we have for each other having been in relationships that were I want to say disappointing. That's sounds mean.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Yeah, I mean we all had our ups and downs in our previous, right? Yeah. There was a lot of lessons that yeah, there was a lot of expectations that never got fulfilled.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

And and that's where you were talking about an another aspect of being cynical is because you know, you you think this is the way it's supposed to be. You go to church, you hear all the you know, the sermons and all the lessons and all the things, you hear from s you know, different influencers and stuff, and this is the way. And you know, you listen to us and you're like, oh yeah, we're saying this is the way, you know, and then you just kind of sit there and you're like, I still don't see it. Right? And I'm trying, I'm doing my part, I just don't see it.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

And and to circle back on the I mean, the Hollywood thing, even though I mean, just the fact that I was cynical means I don't I wasn't expecting that.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Right.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

I wasn't expecting those that relationship to be the Hollywood.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

I did. I didn't. I was sweep her off her feet and run across the beach like you know, with the bulging muscles.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Run out and stop the airplane flying away. No And then in the rain kissing each other and it's just yeah, and yeah, but I wasn't I wasn't expecting that, but but man.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:41

Sort of got it in the end.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Oh, you sorta? I did too. I definitely got it 100%.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

But I was talking about I was went and got my hair done yesterday, and ladies, you know how it is and you sit in that chair for a couple hours and you and your hairstylists get to talk about life and all the things, and I've been going to the same lady for maybe ten years now.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

So she know everything about each other's lives.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

So we were talking about this yesterday, I'll and I was also talking about it with her, and she made the comment of you know, are we re we we have to be ready when we meet that person, right? So that involves doing you know work on our on ourselves, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

We've talked about that before.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

To be ready to be that to be that person.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

Because the one thing I love, and just to interject a little bit, is the idea of, you know, in the Bible, when we read it, you know, and you know, we we believe, but it says that love your neighbor as yourself. And I always say that. How how can you love in the in the term of what it means to love as a verb, actions and and doing and and you know, fulfilling that type of love that God calls us to, but how can you love someone with if you don't understand how to love yourself? You know, and so that digging in and that self-work that we both did with each other, it was kind of one of those things where I I feel in my in my perspective is that it helped me so much to just gain a huge respect and love for you.

unknown 19:34

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

What nothing, I'm just listening.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Oh I thought you were gonna go right in there what you were talking about. I'm sorry, I just kind of like I mean, if you want me to keep talking, I'll just keep talking.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

Yeah, no, I I agree, I mean I don't think if I hadn't done the work that I did on myself when you came along, I probably would would have missed you because I think I would have probably done the whole you're too good to be true. Uh because I would have been afraid of disappointment and not willing to take the risk.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Yeah, for real. Yeah, yeah. That was one of the things when we were dating. I just told her I kept saying, Don't say it. Don't say that. I I I I am honoring you, I'm serving you. And if that that phrase comes out of your mouth, I think I'm just gonna like just give up. Just no. I think I did say that you did, and I was like, Don't I looked at you and I was like, please don't you ever say that again. Please. Uh those are some of my triggers from when I was younger and doing the whole hopeless romantic and you know, rom-com things and and getting dumped. Uh because of saying you were too good to be true type of thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

So which we learned translates into I'm not willing to risk the disappointment.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Exactly. Exactly.

Soulmates Are Made And Found

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Yeah. So Soulmates. There's this there's a country song and by this one artist, and it it this is kind of what started this whole conversation. It was a few years. This conversation's been going on for a few years now. Just, you know, every once in a while we kind of talk about it when the song pops back on. A song is called Soulmates Are Made?

SPEAKER_02 21:28

Or I think the song's just called Made.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Made. Yeah. Yeah. So the song is called Made. And and the chorus is Soulmates Aren't Found Their Maid. And so he talks about a relationship that he's in, and that they have fought, they struggled, and they went through their, you know, their hardships and hard times, and how they've come out of it loving. Each other so much and realizing that this is what a soulmate is, right? But that's his perspective, right? Which is you know, when we were talking to our friend last night, you know, he was like, you know, he had a different perspective as well, which I I enjoyed. But, you know, one of the questions was, Do you do you believe it's made or found? And I'm like, Yes. I believe that I, through all of my experiences, I was being made. And then I found you. Yeah. You know, and I believe the same vice versa.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

Right. Well, and we've definitely put in the work as far as learning how to communicate with each other, being willing to be open and vulnerable, and both having a desire to get on the same page and just talk things out.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

But um there it is. There it is. You haven't done it in a while. I love the loss of train of thought. You really have something good to've known. I would have caught it for you and put it back in that beautiful brain of yours. Now, so think about that. One of the things that I was thinking about is the idea of the word soulmate. If you break it down, we what we've done is gone by society for all these years to hear kind of like what we talked about before is that a soulmate is there's only one person in the world. Oh, did you get it? I got it. You got it? Go for it.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Yeah, it was that so the we worked, but also it I can't get over that there has there's something about the found part because of the way that we speak each other's love languages so effortless effortlessly. Yes, even though they're not the same. Your love language is touch. If we talked about we talked about the five love language. Right, right, right. Your love language is touch. Mine is acts of service. So even though we don't have the same love language, we speak each other's love language and it's effortless. We don't have to think about it. I don't have to think about, oh, I need to go touch Jamie.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:35

And he doesn't have to think about oh, I need to go serve Stacey. Yes. We both just do it. That's the part that makes me feel like there's something to that found perspective. There's something. I mean, because that was part of what didn't work in our previous relationships, is that we didn't speak each other's love language. Right. Even though we tried.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Even though we were putting in the work it's it didn't happen for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Right. So like it it didn't feel it didn't come natural. It felt it felt forced.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

But even when but even when we were like I said, force putting in the work, forcing it, whatever you want to call it, it still didn't work.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Because the other person didn't feel like it was genuine or this or that, you know. Yeah. Totally 100%. But the idea, I feel like the word soulmate, if we break it down, is that we are mates, and it's like our souls are combined. They are one. And that to me, when you find that that when you when you finally understand that oneness, what you were alluding to earlier, what we were talking about, is to becoming one, that that's so much more than just being on the same page. That means that to me, I feel like, man, there's so many times I look at you and I just feel I just tell you, I'm like, I just I just feel like our souls are one. You know, they are so in tune with each other, you know, and when they're that in tune with each other, it is just like man, it's like the clouds open up, the rainbows go, and uh unicorns fly all over the place, you know. Butterflies are talking to the fairies, you know. It's just it's crazy, crazy, crazy. And magical, you're saying, yeah, that's the word, you know, mythically magical. It is so amazing. But I love it. I love it. I think it's it's definitely something, it's you know, it's definitely a subject that you hear from

Serving Each Other Without Keeping Score

SPEAKER_01 27:00

time to time, the idea of soul mates. But but I also think that to the country songers point of view about the song about being found or made, I think, again, like I said, both, but I think that also if you're in a relationship and you're trying to figure that out and you're you're in it, you know, and you won't you don't want to give up. And both parties are not wanting to give up. You know, the husband is doing his part, and you know, and his wife and the partner, and they're just they're working hard to try to make it work. I would say to you, keep up the work, keep going, keep going strong, and and and don't give up even when you get frustrated. But like Stacy was saying earlier, is go back and maybe work on yourself. You know, stop trying to figure out what's wrong with that person and why can't he or she take care of me? What is it that I can do better for her? You ever heard of that that book? And it's an older book, and it's a little dated, but there are still some good truths to it called Fireproof. It was a a Kirk Cameron.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

I saw the movie.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Yeah, so there was a yeah, so the book was actually a workbook. And the idea is is that, you know, and and the hard part about that movie and the story was that you know she didn't she wasn't willing, but he was, and he kept working hard. I have to say, in in essence, sometimes that's hard, and it it's easier to give up in those moments, but if you fight through it and both parties are willing, if you I like this, I and I've tried to say this before. Turn it around, stop acting like you deserve it, and and start trying to outgive the other person. When you start learning how to serve them as God serves us, right? And God serves the church, right? What's that I your eyes? What is what is that? Do you understand what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 29:09

I thought it was the other way around. I thought God loves the church, the church serves God. Maybe that's just semantics. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

I think it's semantics, but anyway. Jesus served us.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

He did.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Yeah. And that's the example is that you know, no matter how much he did that we did to him, he still loves us. No matter how much we dishonor him or whatever, he forgives us, and then he serves us. That was one of the greatest examples in biblical history, is that he washed their feet. You know, that was that idea, is that he washed their feet because he was showing that even the one is serving you, and then it made you want to serve him. And so it's this idea, you know, and it's also reflected in in scriptures that you know, we the church is the bride and he is the groom and type of thing. So if we look at it from that perspective, is that if we even the one is serving us, then you know, it's like let's try to outgive each other, let's try to outserve each other. And eventually you start, it's just I don't know. You you try, right? That's the that's the whole thing. Even if you're in a hardship and a hard marriage and you're trying to make it work and you both are willing, try. Try out serving the other, see what happens. I mean, it might not work. Triggering my church trauma. I know. I saw it in your face. I saw it in your face. I saw it in your face.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

But also, I feel like people might be out there saying, Well, why didn't you do that?

SPEAKER_01 30:57

I did. I did. So then and then I gave up.

unknown 31:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

I gave up, and then I became selfish because it was like I felt like I was done serving. You know.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

So do you think if you had not had taken your own advice right now, things would have gone differently?

SPEAKER_01 31:16

My point in all of that is try. Outcome can be different. That's why I said there's a lot of different perspectives on it, right? I think there's some truth behind that if you're in a struggling marriage, right? But again, my point is both parties have to be willing. And then once that other party's not, it's you know, sometimes it's it's tough. And yes, that my first marriage ended because of the of I tried and I was kind of done trying, you know.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Well, and I think it honestly full circle back to episode one.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Yeah. Which is emotional intimacy.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

Emotional intimacy, yeah. That that that was missing. So I guess your soulmate is someone that you feel emotionally intimate with.

SPEAKER_01 32:11

Sure. Absolutely. I love you. I told her, I said, you just call me out. When you don't agree with something, just call me out. I want it. I want it to be raw, I want it to be real. Yep. But I also have to think, what is she thinking right now? What is what's going through her mind?

SPEAKER_02 32:32

Oh, so what did we decide?

SPEAKER_01 32:36

Do we We exhausted all aspects of soulmates. I believe in a soulmate, but I believe that divine intervention brought us together because we we were created for each other.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Yeah, it does really feel like that. Just all the things that all the desires that I had in my heart, and you meet every one of them. I mean, right? Like just how I described in in the Oh, the manifesting.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

Yeah, my gosh. Yes, absolutely. I mean that woman of my dreams.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

Yeah, and you've said the same.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

And so that feels like you know, God gave us those desires not to torture us with them, but then brought us together.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

To help us know that this person's out there. Yeah. And they're getting ready, you're getting ready. Be prepared. Yeah. Because when they show up, it's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_02 33:35

So I guess I guess I believe in soulmates, but I think you just have to focus on doing the work for yourself so you're ready when you meet that person.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Right. Yep. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

And hopefully they're doing the same. I have faith that this was m what we have was meant for everyone. Everyone who wants it, who desires it. And it gives me uh hope that a lot a lot of people are finding it when I see here's what gives me hope. When I see things on Instagram that's describing us.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

First of all, the fact that somebody created it tells me there's at least one other couple out there. And then when I see how much it how many times it was shared.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:30

And I I assume, and maybe it's an incorrect assumption, but I assume that those are couples sharing them with each other, saying, Look, this is us.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

And that gives me hope. And like I said, I really do believe that if that if it's something that you desire, it's out there for you. I guess that goes back to my faith statement.

Hope For Dating And Letting Go

SPEAKER_02 34:55

God is good and wants good things for us.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

That's right. Yeah, and that's what I was telling Josh last night, is you know, he's he's going through the whole dating scene, you know, and and you know, he's concentrating on his career. Uh I think he's gonna make a he's gonna do really good in his career. And he he's just so his he's got such a kind heart. And then just when we were going through it, man, I'm trying to find this thing. That was great. Uh it was a video where oh, what was his name? What's that host of that show? That's what really triggered it.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

That's so mental. I know. That host of that show and Neil.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

They talk about the stuff. Oh my god. Sorry. Ridiculous sometimes. Oh, here it is. I'm gonna play this. I want y'all to hear this. This is great.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

When the man that never been appreciated crosses path with the woman who was never loved correctly, you better watch out. Because that right then is a true power coup. Because there's two people that have been to the depth of hell and lifting themselves out, but now they're not doing it themselves. They're doing it together as one unit. And that right then is a force to be wrecked when the man is.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

Man, that that when I saw that and I sent that to you, I was just like, whoo, I got goosebumps even listening to it.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

Because, man, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

Yes, uh it's very relatable. 100% believe that. And that was the one thing I was telling Josh last night. I said, you know, before I met Stacy, I had a friend of mine at work say, bro, let go and let God stop trying so hard. God's preparing that person for you.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

And He's preparing you for that person. Let it happen.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 36:56

Stop trying to fit a circle into a square hole, right? Or however it's called square peg or what you know. Into a round hole. Yeah, into a round hole. So yeah, thank you for that. I appreciate that. So yeah, soulmates. We are soulmates in the in the idea that you know what we talked about.

SPEAKER_02 37:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

That's

Global Shout-Outs And Listener Requests

SPEAKER_01 37:23

right. So before we go today, I just kind of want to do some shout-outs, not to people in particular, but I you know, our podcast is actually going around the globe, which I think is kind of neat. Yeah. And I just want to do a couple couple quick ones like Canada, obviously, Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, France, Iraq, South Africa, Indonesia, Siberia, Brazil, Yes, Germany, Mexico, Latavia, Latvia? Latvia, Sri Lanka, Spain, Pakistan, United Kingdom, Venezuela, Chile, and Egypt. Everyone around the world is listening to us, and I love it. I mean, it's one episode, I think, on each one of these, but it's something. I think it was just really cool. So shout out to all of our fans, especially here in the great old United States of America, and uh mostly here in uh Nashville metro area. We thank you guys for listening to us and supporting us, and we hope that we are so thankful that you listen to us and we hope that you get something out of it.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

I would love for I would love for people to drop a comment.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Especially anyone. Yeah. But especially if you're out of the country. Yeah. Because my cynical mind is that's gotta be a a bot. Anyway, so countries that don't even speak anyway.

SPEAKER_01 38:55

My hope. Love to hear. I know. It might be, you know, somebody that does speak English that's over there that listens to it.

SPEAKER_02 39:03

So drop us a comment so we know you're a real person. Yeah, that would be funny. That'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Oh my gosh. Well, thanks for spending time with us today. If there is something from our conversation that resonated with you, we are so happy about that. Uh, we just ask that whenever you can. Just uh give us a follow or a like on Instagram, Spotify, or Apple Podcast, and uh drop a comment, just like Stacy was saying. Let us know. Uh, even if you say uh When or Winas Dias, you know, or whatever, say something. Um we'll be back soon with another conversation. Until then, take care. And thanks for listening to Relations.