Teaching Brandon Carter @KingKeto Our Trading Strategy (1.5M+ Subscribers)

Brandon Carter aka KingKeto, one of the biggest fitness influencers in the world was interested in learning more about our trading strategy. Here's the full convo on his page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_PWnr0RI3k&t=1168s

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Yo, what's going on? Today we got a special guest. I know a lot of y'all want to learn how to make some money and you want to learn how to trade and make money in the markets. I brought on an expert trainer, my man Cam DeSone. He runs the first hedge fund that is designed specifically for the middle class, help you get out the middle class and start balling. What's up, Cam?

SPEAKER_00 0:19

What's up, boss? How you doing?

SPEAKER_03 0:21

Chilling, man. I'm happy you're here, man. I do some trading, but I want to know more about how you trade.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

First thing I want to show the camera. This is what $2 million in a Morgan Stanley account looks like. Come on. And this is what happens when you actually trade and invest long enough without complaining about market cycles or your trades being in the red. So people trade thinking it's like, what do I need to make every month? No, no, no. What do you need to make every quarter and every year for 20 years? Specifically, the way we trade is we swing trade options. We also intraday trade. But what our trading strategy is based on is the efficient market hypothesis. So the efficient market hypothesis basically means this the biggest banks in the world, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Charles Schwab, what are they doing? 90% of the time they're doing one thing, which is buying a bunch of stock with millions of dollars and scraping for 5%. The average person does that with 10 grand, 5% doesn't change their life. So that strategy doesn't work for them. So buying and holding stocks for most people doesn't work that well over a couple of years, even. It takes a lot of time to keep buying.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

A lot of time, and then you got to keep putting capital in so it compounds, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:22

And you can't take the money out. Yeah, you can't take money out. No. So 10% of the time, what hedge funds are doing are hedging their buying calls and puts against their stocks. Okay. We do what hedge funds do 10% of the time, 100% of the time. So we're only competing with 10% of the market, which is mostly retail traders. Which means we can just beat the average idiot trying to trade on their own.

SPEAKER_03 1:44

To get with a hedge fund, like a you know, Bridgewater or something like that. I would need like billions to get to even get in. How much does someone need the money to trade like with your system?

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Even to get into a hedge fund at a small level, you need to be an accredited investor, which means minimum 200k your income or million dollars net worth, excluding primary residence, which most people just don't have. So it's reserved for the upper class. The problem is to get to the upper class, you need these types of strategies. Yeah, yeah. So what somebody needs to work with me is if you have $2,500, it's enough to like start, but you should only swing trade first and not intraday. Yeah. Because you just want to build that buffer. Once you get to $10K, now you can swing in intraday. Yeah. Um, and you're only risking like our risk management is like 10 to 20% of your account max once you're at 10k. And now you're building the business.

SPEAKER_03 2:35

Can they swing trade with they couldn't even do intraday trading with only 25k? They can. Oh, with because with options. With options, yeah. So you just can't do stock.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 2:43

That's the 250. Got it, got it. Okay. Yo, that's interesting. All right. How did you get started?

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Give me the backstory. Yeah. So in 2017, I worked for a company called Veeam, V-E-E-M. Goldman Sachs invested in that company. So they were a financial tech company. Goldman Sachs, Google invested in them. So who did I network with? Goldman Sachs guys. Who were those Goldman Sachs guys? Traders, hedge fund guys, Wall Street guys. They were teaching, not like publicly, but they were like telling my sales manager how to trade options. And I'm like looking at him and he's like, trading, he's on Robinhood. I'm like, what are you day trading? And he's like, no, I'm swing trading. I'm like, what does that mean? He's like, swing trading means we are buying on one day and selling on a completely different day. And I'm like, that seems simple enough. Can you show me what this is? He's like, yeah, just follow my trades. So I'm following his trades and making a couple grand here and there. And I'm like, huh, this doesn't take a lot of time if you actually know the trades, but I could never do this on my own. Now the question is, why is every guru online, they don't even give you the trades? And I'm like, Chris Camillo's worth like 50 mil on Robinhood. Yeah. And he has a free Discord where you can go in and you get free value. What's free value? Here's four hours of research I did tonight. Who wants to do that? We tell you when we are buying and selling, and even better, for the people that don't even have the time to click the buttons on Robinhood, we have an API. What that does is connect your trading account to mine. So every trade I do happens on your account, which means all the responsibility is on me to win. Meaning I can't blame you for not showing up and being coach. You're in the fitness game. If a guy doesn't go to the gym or you write it, he's fucked. So it automatically copies your trades. Every single trade with respect to their budget. Oh, so it does it by percentage. Not percentage. It does it. So this is what makes it SEC compliant. Percentage would mean personalized financial advice. Oh, Brandon has an account with 13K in it, random number. It's gonna trade like this for Brandon Carter. No, bad. That's not that's personalized financial advice. We can't do that. What we can do is have account tiers, which means, hey, if you have 2500 to under 10K in increments of 2500, so you can only start with 2500, 500, 7500. If you have those numbers, this is what your account will do. And and the client has to select that. So it's still a their choice. We explain it to them, they have to select. The second thing is if you have 10K or more, so 10, 15, 20, 25, list goes on. Now you're doing swing and day trades, what I talked about earlier. Got it. So that's what makes it not personalized, it's tier-based. You're taking trades with, you know, what'd you say, two million dollars account in your account? No, no, no, no. This is one of our clients who is really big, who basically took some of his two million dollar portfolio. It was actually down three and a half million when he sent me this. Why? That's his stock portfolio being down. But guess what? His options trades are up. So in the short term, right now, he's winning. He has to wait for this to recover, but that's the whole point of hedging. You're hedging against what's down. Got it. I showed you this statement to show like these are the types of people we work with.

SPEAKER_03 5:37

Got it, got it. It is down because the whole market's down. So the stuff he was holding went down. But his options, because he's doing swing trading, yeah, you're you're making you're making the money off those moves. Correct. Call inputs. Exactly. Got it, got it, got it, got it. Explain your strategy. Like, what makes you different the way you do swing trading?

SPEAKER_00 5:53

The biggest thing is understanding at a high level, and I want DJ to chime in in a second too. The biggest thing at a high level is we are only competing with 10% of the market because 10% of Wall Street strategy is what we do 100% of the time. So it's basically a big fish small pond. I'll give you an example for people that don't know trading. If you're really jacked and good at talking to women and you're like you make like 150k a year, do you think you're gonna do better in Miami or the DR? DR, man, you can make $100. Right? So why did I say that? Big fish, small pond. Right? So we play big fish, small pond. We don't compete with the biggest banks in the world for anything. Talk about kind of in-depth of our technicals, maybe when it comes to our swing trade.

SPEAKER_03 6:36

So this is my man DJ Sullivan. He's the main trader on Cam's team, and I wanted to ask him about more technical stuff, man. So what's going on, brother? Explain your strategy a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

So I like getting into swing trades predominantly. I don't mind doing intraday trades, but I like to leave the stress at home. Yeah. So I like doing swing trades and leap calls as well, even shorting certain stocks and certain commodities as well. It depends on what the sediment behind it.

SPEAKER_03 7:01

When you say swing trades, how long are you holding these? Like days, weeks, months. Depends.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

So if we're swinging something something into next week, I might get a further out expiration date just to give us some further insurance. You know, there are times that we hold it for a few weeks. Just recently, we were down in a few positions for an entire month once the war started. So that entire time I gave them a heads up like, hey, we're probably gonna be in a red month. I'm going to be buying at this time. And I'm gonna be positioning myself. Feel free to sit out, but this is what I'm gonna be doing.

SPEAKER_03 7:29

Now I I thought it automatically does it for you or for your or that that was to the students, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:33

Because you have different tips. Our software system that will automatically get into the trades that we are entering. Right. Right? But through our mentorship, because you do both. Mentorship study. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 7:43

So how long you hold these these trades.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

Okay, so there's certain ones like we have some expiration dates that expire in 2027. We have some that expire June, July, September. Would you hold to 2027 or if you get enough profitable? If I get enough profit, we're definitely out of there. You know, so like even on shorter term trades, right? We have a strategy. Like if you have multiple contracts, you should be taking profits on the way up. Right. If you have multiple if you have that capital type of capital, right? If you have a limited buying power and a limited portfolio size, and we only suggest you to get into fully convicted signals, which is on our signals uh channel in the Discord, where we're telling them, hey, these are ones that we're okay with holding, even if it gets to 50% in the money or 100% total return. Yeah, you know, some of those I'll be signaling, hey, you can take some profits if you have multiple contracts. But I'm holding. I'm holding because I'm seeing this to go to X price or X uh return.

SPEAKER_03 8:42

What kind of trades? Is it just calls and puts?

SPEAKER_02 8:44

You doing spreads, iron doors, strict strictly calls and puts. Strictly calls and puts, why? Yes, because I just am confident in my strategy. And those are kind of like insurance plays if you're not fully convicted on your plays. So trades that I would do if my position is going in the opposite direction, I won't trade the same thing. Like if I'm trading QQQ and I'm in calls and it's going down, I'm not gonna flip my position and go into puts. I'm gonna let that position go where it's going, do its thing. And what am I gonna do? I'm gonna get another commodity or stock that hasn't moved in the manner that QQQ has moved yet, and tag them, or get the commodity that's doing the inverse and going up. Like for instance, the last few weeks, the month, every time oils went up, our markets went down. Simple things like that, where you have to know what to look for. How do you find those? You have to dive deep into what are our stocks, what are what's moving our market. Is it based off technical analysis, fundamental analysis, or both combination? Got it. All that. And then market sentiment, what are their partnerships, what are they doing behind the scenes that's not headlines, right? That's our job. Dive deep into these stocks. What are they here for? What are they doing? What's not making it to the headlines? What is? Why is it making the headlines? Right? There's certain companies that make headlines for a reason, and there's certain ones that are kind of staying back behind the scenes, waiting for their announcements to come out.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Are you primarily doing like individual stocks? Are you doing any ETFs? Of course.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

Yeah, so I'll use uh individual stocks all the time, but I use ETFs as well, like uh SMH, XLE, XLY, Xu stuff like that. And SMH, so I know what this sector or this you know industry is doing. Yeah. Right? So I tell people all the time, like there's full time frame continuity, which I'm sure you're familiar with, and then there's sector continuity. Now, if we have both of those, that gives me further conviction. Now, the market is also moving in these same directions, that's what we call like a trend. That's like more like a market setting, the market continuity. Okay, then now that's easier for people to trade a trend because oh, everything's moving in one direction, I'm gonna follow that.

SPEAKER_04 10:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Rather than why is something moving in this in this direction, or what can I be doing in the meantime to gain my clarity and all this chaos, right? Are you looking at current events as well? Uh, current events, I also back test, I go back to previous events, whether the recent five years from uh five years ago, ten years ago, like we were trading gold, we got 10x, 15x return. But for me to have thought that, not even just last year. No, no, no. We got it in November, sold it in uh in um start of February.

SPEAKER_03 11:16

Yeah, I was on a podcast saying gold, go, go, all like towards the end of the fourth quarter. Yeah, I was mostly saying gold, my boy Greg, who who uh trades with me, he was saying silver, but I was like, I was just all about gold. We were just piling into it. I was buying um Yeah, we were doing both. I was holding futures contracts. Right, oh sweet.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

So how would you feel when it when they started blocking that off for people? I'm sure you didn't see that with Comics taking it off for everybody.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

It's like I had already took profits. Oh, okay, so you're good. Yeah. I actually got out too early.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

I I love and hate those.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

Yeah, you know, I did the same thing with XLE, because like what our our hypothesis going into this year was XLE was going to go crazy because AI needs a lot of energy. That was our hypothesis, right? So we were like all in it, we were saying it live on the podi, XLE, XLE. And then Venezuela happened, and it went up even more, you know. Yeah and um and now it's still I I think it had a little bit of a pullback recently. I'm out of it, right? But I it was too early because I'm doing other shit, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:11

But this is your full-time thing. Right. So I you're asking like how do you avoid kind of like getting out too early, or are you just like kind of picking it up? I just know why I did it.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

I wasn't as focused, right? Even as someone like you, yeah, who only does it, you know?

SPEAKER_02 12:24

Yeah, because I I have those same experiences where I'm looking at these few things, and the second I look at these few things, the one thing that I was just looking at goes and makes the move that I was waiting for that whole entire time, right?

SPEAKER_03 12:36

I don't ask this in an accusatory way, I ask this in a way where I really want to understand. Because a lot of times I'll do spreads, this is more capital efficient. Right, okay. You know, but it fucked me, right? Because that's why I left early with the uh XLE. Even if it kept going up, I wouldn't make no more. So I was like, you can close it.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

Yes, like is that more so trading with margin in a way? Yeah, oh yeah, I think. So we kind of tell people to steer away from margin. Why is that? Because if you lose, you gotta think about it. If you lose, you lose. If you lose, you lose. So a lot of these people are not as educated with the art of trading yet.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

We've been trading around the same amount of time. Yeah. You more in depth than me, but I I feel comfortable trading margin. Yeah, I think what you said makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

Yeah, I mean, we have a lot of people that we're trying to teach and show that, hey, our strategy works. You don't need margin. Now, if you have the skill set and you know what to do and know how to protect yourself before something you know bad occurs, then okay, you can do that on your own. We're not gonna maybe co-sign that, but that's something you could take on your own, right?

SPEAKER_03 13:36

I think I answered my own question, like why you just do calls and puts instead of spreads, right?

SPEAKER_02 13:40

Because I was it was capped out. Yeah. Like I couldn't make no more. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it leaves you with a certain amount that you can make. And a certain amount you can lose. Yeah. But at the same at the same time, once you lose, there's a lot more to recover than you actually think. Right? And when you're thinking, like when you're trading just regular calls and puts with your actual cash account, you have to develop some type of like discipline, right? And you're not gonna make it all back in the in one swing, in one home run. You can't think like that. Right? We were just preaching last night. We have a strategy where we're thinking or moving as if we're trying to put the bat on the ball. You're familiar with baseball where we're just trying to put the ball in play, right? If the their errors that happen or it goes over the other infielder's head, you know, you might hit it a little bit harder and you get you get a play in, then you know what? You get a double, or you might get a triple. If you get a home run, hey, you weren't looking for the home run, but uh, you got that. Okay. In my opinion, our strategy is one of the best. I don't want to say the best, I'm a humble person, but it's one of the best strategies because it teaches you a lot about yourself.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

Yeah, I always tell people, man, when you start trading, you're really gonna learn a lot. You're really gonna learn a lot about yourself, man. Like you're gonna learn a lot about who you are, yeah, and how you handle pressure, how you handle chaos, defeat, how you handle victory, what it does to you.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

All that, you know, and when your back's against the wall and like in some of our positions. Imagine having your whole Discord following your signals, and your positions are in minus 60, minus 70%, and you're supposed to you know that clear head, positive mindset, understanding what and why you're in that trade, right? Knowing when to add or when to leave it, right? That's very important.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

If you if you feel like telling me what's your returns like year to year over the last year.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Yeah, yeah? Yeah, or like what was it was the actual thing. I mean, again, I think what I was trading before was starting around like just like some of our other members was 5k just trade with. Even when I first started, it was like maybe 2,500 to 5k around that time. But like I told you, I wasn't taking a lot of L's starting out because I was just so eager to just trade. Yeah, so then once I started taking those L's, I had to be real with myself and say, Is this something I'm doing? Is it the strategy that I'm using? Then you know, it could have been a combination of both, right? So during that time, something I tell some of my guys now stop, sit back, zoom out, yeah, think about again what were your what was your big picture? What were you thinking, what was your purpose to even start trading in the first place? Were you trying to make some quick money or are you trying to think about this long-term, long-term-wise, right?

SPEAKER_03 16:09

So you know how you how they say most hedge funds don't beat the market, right? You know, like you might you might have been better off just putting your money in the SP. Are you guys able to beat the average return of the SP? And if so, uh by how much?

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Most hedge funds have not beaten the market over 40 years. Yeah. Meaning, if you look at Buffett, he's done 20% a year for 40 years. Now, we haven't been trading for more than 10. In that time that we've been trading, though, five-ish years, we have beat the market. We have beat the SP. So, for example, from December, even of last year, 2025, to now, we took a 25k account, brand new account, and turned it to 100k.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Come on.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

So you can't do that in the SP in a year. It's just not gonna happen, letting your money sit. I even had a guy call in on Fresh and Fit the first time I went on and say this. He goes, The S P can definitely make you rich, Cam. I don't know what you're talking about. I said, I'm sure it can make you rich, just like anything else can make you rich. But let me ask you this did it make you rich? He's like, it did. I'm like, cool. How much did you invest in for how long? He said, 15 grand a month for 20 years. Oh, yeah, if you do that, awesome. Yeah, if you do that, yeah you better be rich. So he doubled 1.8 million. He basically took 1.8 million over time and made it 3.6 or whatever. So it's like, well, that's great, but like we forxed in three months. Yeah. So it's just about what your goals are, right? If you have a good job and you're looking for something to help you make extra cash flow or build an investment account, the way we trade options can do it, because you can actually take profit or let it compound. The problem with the index route or the SP route is you can't take money out.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Yeah, it's cool for people who just want to be super passive, you know, and don't really care, got a lot of money to throw in. But this is my hypothesis. The reason like big hedge funds have a difficult time beating the market, because they are the market, right? Me and you don't really move it in a way that that's noticeable, right? When we take a trade, even with your headphone, you it though you don't do it, you don't move it in a way where it can really affect the price dramatically, right? But if Buffett does it, it does. They are the ones moving the market. So of course they're playing again, they can't beat themselves. Does that make sense? 100%. That's why I always thought that uh most hedge funds don't beat the market. I always felt like that was so stupid because they they make the market.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

It all depends on what your strategy is. Like if you're a hedge fund with five to ten mil under management and you're trying to do what Goldman Sachs is doing, and that's your strategy, you're just gonna have a hard fucking time because they're gonna move that market and influence it at a much higher level than you can.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

Yeah, you gotta do something different.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Yeah, big fish, small pond, it's the way to play. You've had this going on for how long? Uh since COVID. Since COVID. Or technically December 2021.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

That's when you started like building the fund.

SPEAKER_00 18:47

Yeah. So December 2021, we started mentoring. I've been I've been trading since 2017, part-time, and then from 2017 to 2021, I eventually became full-time, left my W-2. Right. Then started mentoring, and then as of recent, like literally the last six months, the software. Because we realized that if people have the time to trade, they do really well.

SPEAKER_04 19:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

If they don't, they kind of like cherry pick, they'll like pick two trades and then be like, my account's down. I'm like, did you the eight ones that won? No. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

So we make sure with the software protocol that nobody misses a trade. So if you're one of those guys like Fresh that doesn't have the time, Fresh is putting money into the software. He doesn't want to wake up and trade. He's out late at night, no, he's doing it. He's not waking up on time.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

He's not gonna be up when the market opens.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

He was this morning only to come vlog with us and watch us trade live. But yeah, man, like we have a solution to the problem.

SPEAKER_03 19:36

Yeah, it's done for you. You do it for him, basically.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

The the problem with like the TJRs of the world and like these other guys is like there's a reason they don't want to be responsible. It's not because it's that difficult to do it legally. You can have a software protocol like mine. There's actually only 17 companies in the world that are doing exactly what I'm doing with my software protocol. Well, I found out because I'm the software partner we have, they're like, You're our 17th client. Like, they're so small because they're all engineers, right? So nobody knows who they are. So I had to hunt and find this and tell my tech guys, like, go find the shit that we need. None of these other companies could do it. This company can do it. And they brought the SEC lawyer to me and they're like, talk to the SEC lawyer. Uh and the SEC guy's like, yeah, this is compliant. I'm like, holy shit, we have it. Wow. So now that we have it, it's like we can't blame you for failing if you're using our software because your software connects to my account. Come on, yeah, yeah, yeah. You you're on the line as well.

SPEAKER_03 20:26

Does the person need can do with any brokerage or do they need a specific brokerage?

SPEAKER_00 20:30

You can do it with a few different brokerages. So you have to do it with an open API brokerage. So Robinhood is not an open API. I mean, they don't let softwares connect. Tradier is what we use, Fidelity owns Tradier. Tradier is an open API brokerage. The reason why they want this stuff, they want these software companies to connect and make things better for people. Robinhood, for whatever reason, doesn't.

SPEAKER_03 20:50

Yeah. Fucking uh Schwab. Schwab you can do. Schwab's open API.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Um Tradier is just like I found it to be the most user-friendly, at least for like the client, even though they're not trading, just log in and check their dash and understand what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 21:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

I like Tradier. You can use Tasty Trades.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

Tradier, I don't think I've ever heard of it.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Yeah, Fidelity owns them. They're okay, but they're smaller. They're smaller than Schwab. There's Tasty Trades and then Thinkorswim you can use too.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

Oh, you can just think, yeah, Thinkorswim. I'm super f- I started trading with Thinkorswim. There you go. Yeah, yeah. Use this company to connect everything.

SPEAKER_00 21:19

Yeah, then we have a software partner that connects to my Tradier accounts. I have two accounts. Why? I have one account that is specific for the people with 2,500 to 10 grand for them to swing trade only and get up to 10 grand. Then I have another account that API connects for anybody with 10 grand or more. So anybody with 10 grand or more is doing more trades. They're doing the swings and the day trades.

SPEAKER_03 21:42

Got it. Is it like instant? Do your trades get copied?

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Yeah. Oh wow. It's literally instant. That's why it's so great because I'm like, there's no API issues. The the software company that we partnered with has been around for five years and just nobody knows who they are.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Just so uh I'm familiar, like, is it difficult for the client to set up? No. Or they just have to have one of the accounts with one of these brokerage and then what?

SPEAKER_00 22:03

No, no. So what happens is they sign up with us, they pay a yearly fee for the software, and and our and our partnership with that, meaning you're gonna follow our trades. Okay. Then my CIO, my chief information officer, he gets on a call with them and he walks them through setting up their trading account, which is make sure you pick level two options trading. Make sure you pick not a professional trader, make sure you say your um your family doesn't work on Wall Street or whatever, right? Then they have to do this, which makes it compliant. They have to pick what stocks of ours they want to follow. Meaning, let's say we have a hundred stocks and they don't want to trade Bank of America for whatever reason, just bullshit. They don't fuck with that. Yeah, whatever. They're like, we'll pick 99 stocks. That makes it compliant because they are making the choice to follow certain stocks that we trade. Obviously, everybody picks all of them, but we can't tell them. You can't tell them. They just do it because they're they're following our expertise. They pick the stocks. The second thing they do is set up their risk management rules. So basically, if they have 10k, there's risk management rules that they can pick, and we just basically walk them through what each one means, and we're like, you pick how aggressive you want to be. And they pick, which is based on once again, it's not our advice, but they they've seen our data, that's why they're signing up. That's it. The software runs. And we just give them a progress report every two weeks. And they can log in whenever it's only login and look at it whenever we don't have access to their login, like we don't have their account, the API just makes it account.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

How do they get the API? They they give it to your guy or they they take the API with like how does it work?

SPEAKER_00 23:26

They do it on the call. So my my tech guy will set up the API, it'll connect their trading account to mine. I don't actually know how that works. I just like technically I don't know. Otherwise, I just know it's a good idea.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

You're not a software engineer, yeah. Exactly. How many uh clients do you have on this right now?

SPEAKER_00 23:39

So on the software, we have a little under 30 now. Um on our mentorship, we have about 120.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

Okay, how much does it cost to get on the software with you?

SPEAKER_00 23:47

So depends on their budget, right? Because we want to make sure everybody who works with us gets such a good ROI that it's like automatic renewal, right? If you have between $2,500 and $10K, depending on that and what you're gonna actually start with, we'll charge anywhere from five to ten grand. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

A year, a month. A year for the year. Okay, for the year. Or it's not a monthly thing.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

No, no, no. It's it's we have monthly payment options, but it's still for the year you're locked in. Yeah. If you have 10 grand or more, then we charge 10k for the year. Okay. Yeah, and that's what we're at right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then we have higher tiers, you know, specific, like, oh, if they have a big, big account, then yeah, just like the ROI for us has to make sense too on the value offering. We've already proven that we've turned 25 grand into 100 grand in the last three months. I have a video walking through every trade on my account, wins and losses. So once you watch that, you'll understand why we charge what we charge because it's too hard to ignore.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

So where can they watch this video?

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Oh, on my YouTube. So profit with cam, but it's a five-minute video. I'm scrolling through my account all wins and losses from December 17th to March 4th of this year. And then I'm gonna have my Discord link. So as you can see, my shirt says trade with me for free. Why does it do that? Well, or why do I say that? Come in and watch us for one week. See what we're capable of, then make a decision. Talk to the other members in our group because there's too many people every day posting and trading success that you can literally message on Discord and talk to them. Hey, how long have you been here? Hey, what does your account look like? Don't talk to you.

SPEAKER_03 25:09

So it's like just full transparent.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

It's so transparent because, bro, we actually trade. Like, I I don't even know what my test. I'm gonna show you my test account just because it's easy to show. It's right on my phone. But like I'm logging into my Robin Hood Live. We're up 12 grand a day. So is it AI? Is it a screenshot? We're up what, 12 grand a day? Are there really options, trades, right? We can go over every objection in the book, but like the trades are there. Due diligence is a mean to an end. Meaning when I make decisions, the reason I make three to five million a year this year, because I make decisions after doing my due diligence, understanding that due diligence is a means to an end. Meaning you can spin in a loop and just like think something's too good to be true. But if you're not rich, is it too good to be true or are you just bad at making decisions? Imagine if you went your whole life, you would you have this freaking view? Just thinking everything's too good to be true?

SPEAKER_03 25:53

Oh, no, no, no. You paid for it. I had to take some risk. You took some risks. I had to take some risks. So that's my point. Is this good for beginners or people who already trading, or is it just good for people who just don't want the don't want to do it themselves?

SPEAKER_00 26:06

All three. I mean, we we have clients that are never learned, never like they knew what the stock market was, obviously, but they never traded. They they either never invested, like that's the bare minimum. Hey, I I invest in the SP. Or like I don't invest at all, but I know like that Tesla stock exists. Like blow blow minim. Those people come into mentorship, if they actually do the work, they win. But if they don't have the time, they should just go software.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

Uh so there's two paths. It's mentorship where they can just learn from you.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Learn and manually copy everything. We tell you when we are buying and selling. And how much is that if you don't? Um two tiers. So we have a 6K tier and a 14k tier. Okay. Okay. 6K, you copy our swing trades only, and you get basically like limited study sessions and one-on-one hands-on support. Yeah. 14k is for people that want to swing and day trade and get like real one-on-one mentorship from guys that know their stuff.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

So, and those prices have gone up over time. So, that's the price right now, but we we're going off of returns. So, when we took like Zach, for example, he had a 20K account on Robin Hood. He manually was copying our trades. Started on October 20th of last year. By end of December, he was up to 100k in his in his account. So I'm like, that's incredible. What is he doing differently? Oh, he's just doing every trade and showing up and learning the market and learning what we do. I'm like, dude, we got to charge more for this. Yeah. Right? Because it's like when people do the work with the budget they have, they win. Now, keep in mind, that doesn't mean that you need to necessarily spend 6K up front out of pocket. But if you can't spend 6K up front out of pocket, also ask yourself, why is that? Because if you can't put six grand in the market, your returns are only gonna be so much. So we do have monthly payment plans, but they're contingent on your available credit and your credit score. So, example, if you have a 6k chase card, we have a private lender that'll match your 6K. They'll give you an additional 6K just based off the fact that you already have 6K, and then you can pay over 12 months. So 6K divided by 12 months is 500 bucks a month. So you can pay and you get that credit limit back, that 6k on your chase. It's just used to match. So you basically get free credit to pay $500 a month for 12 months, 0% interest. Then you put your cash into your Robin Hood or your trader if you're doing software, and you and you win.

SPEAKER_01 28:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

Like it, bro. I went into a hundred grand of debt before I ever became a millionaire. This is what people don't understand. You're worried about a trade being down 20%.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

I'm worried about nothing because I know that the risks I'm taking will keep paying off as long as I execute and execute and execute it.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

What's like some of the success stories you've seen from like some of your students? I know you say your man made a bunch of money, but like get give me some more, man.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just flew Sahel out to Miami. Sahel lost 70 grand in crypto before I met him. He signed up in December 8th. He saw me on Fresh and Fit December 7th. He's like, Cam, I don't know why I'm taking a chance on you, but I'm doing it. I just lost 70 grand in crypto. I got 5k I can put into my Robin Hood. Is that enough? I'm like, yeah. He joined the mentorship. The mentorship, yeah. He came in with the first two weeks, he was copying our trades and making money. Then he started really learning our strategies, started falling in love with it. Now he is calling his own trades to the point that people are emailing me, other clients saying, Hey, can we copy Sahel's trades too? And I'm like, fuck, maybe. Yeah, let me ask him if he wants to join the team. So I call Sahil and I'm like, Sahil, come out to Miami, come trade with us live, and let's do a vlog. We traded the last two days live, bro. Hit like 200% trades, hit 185%, hit 120%. All on camera. I can't wait for the vlog to come out. It's gonna be on my YouTube. But Sahel turned his 5k into 30K. And he's bouncing back from that crypto loss right now. And now we're hiring him to be part of the team and coach our clients. That's all. Because he knows our shit. He knows our strategies and he knows they work. So that's one. Will Lynham is another good one. Will Lineum is a tech sales manager in Tampa, Florida. He had a hybrid job. So he works from home a little bit and he has to go to the office too. 40s in his 40s, makes good money, 200k a year, whatever, 150, 200. But he had a dream. He was like, I want to start my tech startup, and it I have to be in Colombia to do it. Why? His tech company, I forget the name, and I hate that I keep forgetting the name, but it is basically Amazon, but for Colombian vendors. So basically, Colombian people, they want to get their products out all over the world. He may built a tech platform for that to happen, e-commerce. Okay. He has to be in Columbia more to talk to these vendors, but his company won't let him go. So he's like, hey, I'm like, what's my way out of this? I'm like, dude, just start trading options with us. He starts trading. He's been a client for over two years. He's done our mentorship, he's done our software route. He keeps buying everything I sell because what I touch turns to gold. You can talk to him. He's on my page. I'll put you in a on a reference call with him. It's so easy to do because we're that transparent. And he did 70% his first 12 months on his portfolio trading options. Wow. 70%. So the SP is 7%. Now, am I going to do 70% a year for 40 years? Probably not. But I might do 50. I might do 20. I might do 40. It's all still better than the SP.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

That's what I believe. So Will's now in Columbia running his tech company. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:02

That's awesome, man. Killing it, bro.

SPEAKER_03 31:03

And Fresh uh Fresh is a client too, right?

SPEAKER_00 31:05

Fresh is becoming a client. Yeah. He just joined. Just joined. Like he came over this morning. Uh we had the show last night, but uh he came over this morning to watch us trade live just to like get his full conviction on. And he saw us. He was like, oh dude, I need to do this. He's gonna also be part of the offer. So he's basically like, Cam, like this actually works. All these other traders I've interviewed do not show their account randomly on a camera. Like no one is doing this, bro. Yeah. So like I was like, fresh, why would I why would I ask you to be a software client if the software doesn't work? Because that would mean I would immediately lose my relationship with you. I'm gonna ask you for the same thing because you have so much reach that you can be a part of this if you know it really works. And like you know it works because you know me, but like the point is like imagine if you actually used it.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome, man. Where where can they find out more information about you, man?

SPEAKER_00 31:51

Profit with K A M. Instagram is where you can message me directly, YouTube. You can watch my long form. I do a lot of trade breakdowns, longer videos. Nice. Um, and then the Discord link, seven days free. Come watch us or even get in the pond with us. I say the pond because we're a big fish in that small pond. Come trade with us live and see it for yourself.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

Awesome, man. Listen, yeah, all those links are gonna be in the description. My man, Camp. Thank you so much, brother. Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

Yes, sir.