How I Made Hedge-Fund Investing Possible For The Middle-Class (with Fresh & Fit)

I brought my client Sahil on Fresh and Fit, the largest male self-improvement podcast in the world after helping him turn 5k into 40k (with proof) with my options trading strategy.

Here's the full conversation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOajPp12yEU

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 11:45

And we are live. Guys, it's Money Monday, Special and Fit with Cam, and my name's Sahel. We'll be covering switch training today. Let's go. And we're back. All right. Uh, it's funny because the last time you were here, it was just you, never you said with you, I watched a show previously, and that was a master trader himself. So we know who you are. They may not know who you are.

SPEAKER_04 12:47

First things first, this is what two million dollars in a Morgan Stanley account looks like. The reason I'm showing this is because our client was nice enough to let me borrow this for the show. Okay. This is what happens if you actually trade and invest long enough without complaining about the market being in the red or your trades being in the red. You just have to keep going with the strategy that works. So he'll turn five grand into 30 grand since our last freshman fit episode, which was on December 7th.

SPEAKER_03 13:13

By the way, he watched a show. He wasn't in the chat commenting, hey, or saying it was a scam. He watched, so you know what? I'm gonna give it a shot. Put money up from behind it. So good job, brother.

SPEAKER_04 13:24

And he lost 70 grand in crypto before that. And now I'm gonna hire him because he's so good, he's calling our own trades to the point where my own email list is upset. They say, Kim, how come I didn't see this trade? I'm like, it's fucking scales trade. It's learning the strategies.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 13:43

Alright, so that's that's what can happen. What, December 8th? After the episode of December 7th, one day after.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

I'm just curious, what made me just say, you know what? I'm just gonna go for it. I believe it, Cam. Was the number you showed on the screen? What was it?

SPEAKER_02 13:54

Well, uh, for me, it was just more of a for the longest I've been trying to find something that I can learn a new skill set. Uh find something I can do that I can still work on a full-time job. What's your full-time job? Uh I work full-time as a CT technologist in healthcare. And then um, so yeah, what Cam highlighted was the power of options, the amount of money you can make with it, the flexibility of it. Um, so that's what caught my attention. And then what made me sound up everything he said, it just sounded too good to be true. I I I guess crazy as it sounds, everything that he was offering, I was just more open-minded to it. And I said, you know what? Let me just try it, and I'm happy I did. Man, I would say end of 2022. Wow, that's when I started watching it.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

Long time, long time. So, yeah, real quick, uh, for people watching right now, what is the edge you have for swing trading? Because obviously people feel like swing trading is not easy to do, but you've mastered it along with your uh student. So, what's the edge you have that most people don't have? You would say edge.

SPEAKER_04 14:55

I would say years of experience, number one, uh building a team around myself, number two. So if I'm here on this podcast right now, there's somebody else studying the market. I have a team of traders that look at the market and have been doing this for years, and actually some of them worked on Wall Street as well.

SPEAKER_03 15:12

Perfect.

SPEAKER_04 15:13

Okay, so having that it's hard, I should say this, it's easy to beat somebody who's just like a self-taught trading guy that doesn't really know what happens inside of Wall Street.

SPEAKER_03 15:25

So let's say someone's watching right now. They want to make money like skilled and have like five kids at a name or two kids at a name. Yeah, is that enough to get started in really learn trading, or what do you say?

SPEAKER_04 15:35

So 2500 is the bare, bare, bare minimum. If you have anything less than that, you need to start with credit repair and credit building to go to the bank and get buying power. We can help me do that if you have anything below that. That obviously comes with the cost too, but it's gonna be obviously less than 2500 because you don't have that. Now, 5 to 10k what we found is the sweet spot. So heel is actually how I found that sweet spot. Meaning I knew it was true, but Steel proved it again because he turned 5k into 30k in three months. So anything above 10k though is really, really sweet spot. Meaning like anything from 10 to 20 to 25, we just turned the 25k count into 100k during the war from December 17th to March 4th. During the time, bro, December 17th to March 4th. So, and we have a video of five minutes me going through the Robin Hood account, literally showing wins and losses, adding up to 25k, going to 100k.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Because I first lost a lot of money during a war and like had no idea what's happening. And it's kind of scary because with Trump's news and what's happening, you never know what's the angle. So that's pretty that's pretty good. Um, so I guess like, okay, let's say 2500 is the minimum. What is ideally what people should put you say like 5 to 10k?

SPEAKER_04 16:44

Yeah, five five to ten is the sweet spot, and ten or more is the super sweet spot. But the reason I say super sweet spot is because people that have 10 or more they can actually get into all the trades quickly with the within uh with significant buying power, meaning they're not just like trying to turn 200 bucks into 400. No, they're trying to turn a thousand into two thousand, and that adds up. But with 5k, you have to be a little more cautious, I would say. And I would say that's probably how you started getting a little more cautious in the beginning until you get that 10k buffer, and now you can play a little harder with your tech. And what are you using for platforms right now? So two things. So he uses Robinhood, and we use Robinhood because he he copies our trades manually from his phone? From his phone.

SPEAKER_03 17:28

No computer, no laptop, just phone.

SPEAKER_04 17:30

You can use a laptop if you want, but you can literally use your phone and click four buttons to enter a trade. Now, obviously, you can click four buttons and lose all your money and gamble if you don't know what you're doing, but if you're following the right people like his, then you win. So we use Robinhood. Now, we have something new that I didn't talk about last time because we were working on it. For people that don't have the time to trade, but CR returns and want it. You can hook up your trading account to my trading account through our API. An API is basically a software protocol that connects two things together. Think the Uber driver has to know where to drive, right? So he needs maps, so Uber connects to maps. Our software connects, for example, Steel's trading account to mine and enters every single trade that I make, but proportional to his budget. Example.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

So you're saying I'm gonna copy your trades without doing anything myself?

SPEAKER_04 18:18

We finally, bro, I can't request, I can request. It's it's it's too good to be true because nobody can do it in an SEC compliant way, so they can't advertise it.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

Because, for example, I'm busy. Yeah, I got tricky going on. I can't focus on trading all the like this. I just I just can't.

SPEAKER_04 18:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

So if I could follow the trades like that, that's like cheat code.

SPEAKER_04 18:36

Someone asked me today what's the catch, I said there's no catch. We solved the problem. I mean, nobody that I know has done this in an SEC compliant way. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:44

That's important.

SPEAKER_04 18:45

It's extremely important.

SPEAKER_03 18:46

What SEC what the compliant things are, because I think that's very important.

SPEAKER_04 18:50

Okay. First of all, STC compliant, what does it actually mean? STC compliant means you are doing things above board.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:57

Above the law. Or I should say in the law. I should say not above, but doing the doing things the right way. What makes it compliant? A couple things. One, we do not charge a performance fee of profits. We don't do that. We charge a yearly fee for the software protocol itself. Meaning what we are selling is the software protocol that connects your trading account to mine. Second thing, you pick what stocks of ours you follow. So let's say you see our list of 100 stocks that we like to trade or options that we like to trade on those stocks. And you say, I don't like meta as a company. I'm not going to trade meta. That's your choice. Obviously, our clients pick everything because they're paying us for that. But the point is they get to pick what stocks they follow, which makes it compliant.

SPEAKER_03 19:39

So that's I don't like I guess like the studies are something and the owner's company. No.

SPEAKER_04 19:44

You can say no. You can trade 99 out of 100 things we trade. You can trade one out of 100 things we trade. Doesn't matter. Third thing. Um, you pick the multiples, meaning you get to pick the risk management rules. We explain them to you. Like, hey, these are the risk management rules you can pick. You get to pick. So now it's all your choice. So we'll educate you, but as long as you pick, that's those are the things that make it SCC compliant.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

So what was it if you don't do it with not compliant? Is that like we call it go to jail? All right.

SPEAKER_04 20:14

All right, like I wouldn't be talking about it if that was the case because this is too big of a platform.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

So some actual like history here would be. Uh, I did one uh back in the day, and it was Forex. Like, hey, you know, put some money in. We'll trade a few with the bot. But if I get it, huh? If you know where I'm going with this, and you'll be fine. I put a bull 20, 30k in, 50k in total. 30k out, left the profit in there, and then they come closed. And I was like, yo, I just got I just get hammered, scammed, and uh my buddy put 200k in there. Oh, the money was gone. So that was not SCC compliant at all. Well, that's why I feel like my mistake was not doing it under that rule.

SPEAKER_04 20:57

Well, that's the other thing. So Forex doesn't even like it's like apples to oranges. Forex is its own thing. Forex is not regulated by the SCC, which basically means they can do whatever they want. They can do whatever they want. Like they can fuck you, and like the same way in crypto, like technically, like, rug pulls happen, and like these rug pull guys aren't necessarily going to jail.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

They're not like not yet.

SPEAKER_04 21:18

Not yet. But like it's not even the SCC's priority. The SCC's priority is to protect people from getting screwed by the things that they care about. One of them is the US stock market, which is what we're involved in.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

So yeah. Okay, so uh that sounds pretty good. I don't like how many put tank it in myself. Let's go. Um, so so I guess what stocks should people look for now off of your experience, and then how much should they put? Or is that more like a behind the scenes stuff?

SPEAKER_04 21:46

Yes and no. So we trade a lot of tech, okay, even with the war.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

So for example, a lot of things like one really good one that they could actually do.

SPEAKER_04 21:54

Um what's that gold five fifty gold five fifty? What's the expiration gym? Um for January. Yeah. Gold 500 call?

unknown 22:05

January 27.

SPEAKER_04 22:06

Okay. Okay. So GLD is gold on the stock market to make it simple. GLD, $500 call, expiration January 15th of 2027. Like just invest and wait. Like don't even like look at it every day just to look. Take a few seconds, you look at TikTok anyways, right? But let it ride out. The expiration date on that trade is j is uh January of 2027.

SPEAKER_03 22:34

What's it called again?

SPEAKER_04 22:35

Gold. So uh gold thing? GLD. GLD $550 call, which means we're predicting GLD gold is gonna go up to $550. Oh, $500, I'm sorry, $500 by January of 2027.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:50

I like it.

SPEAKER_04 22:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

Alright, um, so let's say um I'm a critic and I feel like this sounds too good to be true. Um, what is I guess the most I can make if I put I don't know, 20k in? Or what's the most you ever made yourself?

SPEAKER_04 23:06

Okay, so let me break down the different types of accounts we have and what trades they do, because that's important. Well what where you were at 30, 35? I was almost almost at 40. Okay. He was almost at 40. Some trades went down before the war, but basically um from 5 to 40k realized profit within from December to now.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:27

So that that's like we're not even a year in to his account. So his account, he'll probably get to six figures. Um 25k, we turned my uncle's 25k to 100k from December to now. So yeah, right now it's actually it went up to 100 and then it's down to 70, but it's still at 70. It'll probably finish at 15200 for the year. So you can make 15200 for the year and just be fine. Like, like that's what 25k will do. Um, in terms of what we trade, you asked that as well.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:00

A lot of tech stocks. So, example, people don't understand with options, it's different than trading stocks. About what's gonna happen to certain stocks by certain dates. So, I'll give you an example. Bill Gates just got caught up with the Epstein stuff. Oh, yeah. So, what does that do to Microsoft? People aren't super like overstood. So, we made bets on Microsoft going down, and we won on those bets. So, that's what people don't understand. What about the market? I'll give you an example again.

SPEAKER_03 24:27

Is polymarket one of those two where you can like bet like polymarket or calci?

SPEAKER_02 24:32

It's like it's it's like a predictions market.

SPEAKER_03 24:34

So, yeah, is that similar, you would say, or not? No, no.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

Well, kind of. Uh, you're buying contracts like the same way you do options, but you're kind of more sport, it's it's like a legalized sports bidding. Got it. Okay, okay, basically.

SPEAKER_04 24:46

Yeah. So um with Microsoft, my uncle's stock portfolio is actually down while his options portfolio is up because the options portfolio is more specific in the short term, but then his stocks are just like you're holding stock. So if the stock price goes down, the stock price goes down, and you've technically lost money, but not if you don't sell the stock. So there's pros and cons to everything.

SPEAKER_03 25:08

Can I write off the loss? Like if I lose like 20k, can I write write that off on taxes or no?

SPEAKER_04 25:15

No. That's a CPA question from my CPA.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 25:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

So I'm thinking if I lose some money in this, I might as well get a write-off for it.

SPEAKER_04 25:23

I think only if you lose more than your principal, which you can't do on a single options trade anyway. Meaning if I put a thousand dollars into a trade, I can only you lose a thousand. Okay. So it's technically like you just lost your principal, which I don't I don't think that's the case.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

I think there's a cap to your losses. But if you win, there's no cap.

unknown 25:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

So there's a there's a ceiling, but there's no like, I guess, floor?

SPEAKER_04 25:43

Well, I mean, there's a lot of floor, like like yeah, you can only lose what you really invest. With like other instruments or other like trading opportunities, you can lose more than what you invest.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

So there's there's like a stop loss, basically.

SPEAKER_04 25:55

There's an automatic stop loss of your principal, yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:57

Okay. And what's your risk management protocol? Because I I can only imagine, like, as a trader, your mind is going to all these places, and like you wanna, okay, let's say I lose here, I want to win big over here, so go crazy. How do you risk manage your trading or swing trading?

SPEAKER_04 26:10

I'm gonna give my answer and then I want you to give yours because yours is really good. Because you're you're new, you're he's new, but but he's learned so well that I love hearing what he says.

SPEAKER_03 26:17

But guys, you know what's funny what it is? I like it because I can talk to Cam, which is an expert, and so I'm gonna watch the show himself. Yeah, you guys are real how he felt about it. Exactly. That's good.

SPEAKER_04 26:25

So my way of explaining it is this is we will risk, and I said this on Bradley too. My episode drops in June. We will risk 10 to 20% of our account per trade, depending on how confident we are. So yeah, Max. So we're not looking for home runs. We're looking for first base hits, second base, third bases. Okay. So if I have 100K in my account, easy numbers, and I put 10k into a trade, 10%. If you have 10k in your account, then we'll put 1k into that trade. That would that's what you would do. Now our software does that for you. So that's how we stop people from over-leveraging and being emotional traders, too.

SPEAKER_03 27:01

Right?

SPEAKER_04 27:02

Someone like him, he's very disciplined, he doesn't need to use it because he actually wants to learn the skill, which is now why I'm fucking hiring him, because he's so good, he's calling it. Are you gonna hire him? Yes, he's because he's calling his own trades already. That's why he's here. I flew him up for this, because I'm like, bro, like if Sahel got so good in four months that I want to hire him because my clients are emailing me saying, Hey, can I copy Sahel's trades too? Well, fuck me. Maybe they can. Right? But talk about your risk management.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

Yeah, so I would say for me, because I started off with a smaller account, um, I started with five percent. So five percent on every single trade. I didn't like go over that until I started building capital. So once you start making money, your five percent gets higher and higher and higher. So after like a month, my $250 trades turned into $500 trades, then it turned into a thousand dollar trades. And then I got a lot of confidence, then I started increasing my risk tolerance.

SPEAKER_03 27:59

How fast did you learn the procedure?

SPEAKER_02 28:00

Because you said you did it in three months, right? Yeah. How'd you learn learn so fast? Uh well, I would say the first couple weeks was just simply following their trades. So I was able to double my money just simply following their trades. Wow. Yeah. And then I showed up every day. I went to office hours that they had. Um, I took the time on my own to learn it. And I would say about after a month, I started uh making it. I started I started implementing it myself. So that's when I ended up I was losing like when I was doing it myself, but I wasn't going crazy, like $100, $50. And then once I started um getting confident, I started making money and getting into really good trades, which allowed me to raise my capital back up. And yeah, when I got to like 10-15k, my trades started becoming like a thousand dollars a trade, two thousand dollars a trade.

SPEAKER_03 28:54

So you started really small and scaled up slowly. Yeah. Cause I'm I'm super nervous, bro. If I'm gonna lose money, I'm I'm out. So I'll be like, yo, I lost money, I'm out.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

So you stuck with it even when you lost. Yeah. But I also I learned a lesson too, though, is that once I started gaining confidence, yeah, I started over-leveraging a little bit. Started going 10%, 15%. Then I started losing some money, and I got kind of scared. But I think that's the cool thing about this group, that the resources that are there, that when I started losing trades, I was able to reach out to Cam, reach out to the to the team on uh to my traders and be like, hey, this is what I'm doing wrong. What am I doing wrong? I was able to take a step back and be like, all right, like I need to chill, stick to my rules, and then I was able to bounce back.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

So from what I'm seeing, well, what I've heard and seen from people I know that trade, the best traders analyze when they take losses. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:44

So that's why I'll challenge you on what you just said. You're like, if I lose, I'm out. Well, bro, people ask me simple questions like, hey, how uh how much am I gonna make a month? I've answered that before, but the reality is it's what are you gonna make quarterly and yearly? Because there are cycles. You think Warren Buffett played for 40 years and did as well as he did in the market without taking losing years. People aren't willing to lose in a month. It's crazy what I've seen. So I'm like, bro, like you can be down a month and up a quarter. We've had that happen. That 25 to 100k that I told you, that account, that was down in one of those months. And then it blew. So trading is about waiting, right? That's why swing trading is literally a swing. Okay, you're waiting for the trade and the prediction that you've made to come to fruition.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

That's fair. What if I lose all my money though?

SPEAKER_04 30:40

If you lose all your money, that means you didn't do anything we say. And if you're worried about that, do the software and let us do it for you. Because our risk management rules prevent that from happening, right? We look, since the episode that I came on in December, yeah, have we had clients fail? Absolutely. Why? Two reasons. Sahil, do you want to share them?

SPEAKER_02 31:00

Well, you just gotta pay attention and show up. That's literally what it is.

SPEAKER_04 31:04

The thing is, he's there, right? So like it bothers me because I'm like, Sahil, I'm worried. Are we not doing a good job? He goes, everybody who has ever complained hasn't showed up to a single study session.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 31:16

That's annoying. Because I'm like, so you're telling me we offer multiple study sessions a week after work hours, and you just can't make it? And we've set those expect expectations, okay? So that's the first reason they don't show up. Or they just over-leverage and get really greedy. We've had somebody, bro, run up a hundred K with us. He turned 20K, 20 specifically, into 100. Okay. And then How long was that period? October 20th, I remember the exact date he joined. October 20th to like late December, bro. It was fast. It was a really hot time. It was before I came on here, but he had like started and then he hit that gold run and silver run that we hit. Bro, he gambled, he borrowed money from Robin Hood margin, bro. We do not teach this. He just did it because he was like, I'm winning so much. I need overconfident. Overconfident. So over-leverage, overconfidence, or not showing up.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

So at what point do you take profits? Because if I made 70k, I need any profits.

SPEAKER_04 32:14

Yeah. So he was taking profits. This is what I need to understand. Uh, explain to you. He was selling the trades. He just then went and said, I have a hundred grand in my account now. Let me go borrow a bunch from Robinhood, whatever they'll give me, and now I blew my entire account, losing it all. Damn. So when do you take profits, though, is a different question. When you take profits is dependent on the trade. So there are certain trades. We did two trades today on vlog. We're gonna post the vlog. It was literally live. So you could see him in Miami on my balcony condo trading with our traders, learning, and hitting trades himself and also following our trades at the same time. You'll see it live. We hit a 20% trade and we hit a 100% trade. Those are different trades. So we know when to take profit on each one.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

So I'm actually a bit worried because I'll tell you why.

SPEAKER_04 32:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:57

I've been pitched by other traders to come on a show. Yeah, and I've said no. Because from what I've seen and what I've heard and what I've been viewing, they can't trade live. Now, I'm all for screenshots and proof. But TJR, for example, just call his name here. Uh, he was trading live with a student. Is that real? And I say real because like I don't really see the method behind it. I just see like some numbers on it.

SPEAKER_04 33:25

You want to come over tomorrow in the morning?

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 33:27

We have our videographer, John. You know John?

SPEAKER_03 33:28

But this I'm saying, I've heard they can make a prop account, like a real account, and then say, hey, I just made this much money at a prop account, which is not a real account. Yeah. And then run with that as hey, look, guys, this is what I made my student but XYZ.

SPEAKER_04 33:42

So TJR, first of all, trades futures and trades prop firm futures. That's different than prop account. I know what you mean when you say.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

But I'm not saying that he did that, I'm just saying in general, that's what I've seen some people do.

SPEAKER_04 33:50

No, no, no, I'm with you. I but I'm also saying when you say prop account, you mean a fake account.

SPEAKER_03 33:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:55

What I'm saying is prop firm capital is what TJR trades, which is very different. Prop firm capital means you are taking leverage from trading firms. Very different than margin. We talked about margin already. Margin is when you go borrow from Robinhood. Prop firms are its own, their own companies. You go basically take $50,000 and you're not actually responsible for it. It's it's not risky like people think it is, but the game is so hard to play because the company giving you the $50K, they say you have to trade a certain way and make this type of money and this much money, or else we'll just take our $50,000 back and you're fucked. So it's really hard. It's for like very, very experienced traders. Most people can never figure it out. So the reason I say uh you your question was, is it fake? I cannot tell you whether somebody else is faking a testimonial or faking a client. What I can tell you is prop firm capital is very hard to trade. And what I can tell you is we literally flew him out here to vlog live, and I can even prove this. These this would be fraud. No, no, this is this would be financial fraud if I was BSing. Okay. He has two contracts with us. Meaning Sahil paid us twice to be a client. Okay. And I can go through all these pages, or you can just ask him and you can look over this later. But Sahel paid us twice. He paid us once on like, let's look at the fucking date. Hold on. Boom. Initials, $5,000 paid. Boom, that was our old price. Let's keep going. December 11th, Sahil signed.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

Oh, he's not playing. Sahil Ram. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 35:22

Said your full name. Don't even give a fuck. Okay, look, he signed. Second time he renewed, look how quickly he renewed because he already made so much money that he was like, I have to stay involved. Oh, sorry. These are other people that renewed early. I brought it all with me. Only brought Sahil to the show, though. Okay. February 5th, Sahil signed. So meaning December 11th and February 5th, he has a six-month contract with us. He's not even done with six months, he's already renewing. Papers everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

Yeah. Is it because you were making a lot of money? You said, you know, I can't stop now?

SPEAKER_02 35:54

Yeah, because I was thinking, well, in two months I made X amount of money. Can't imagine what a year it would be. So I just, I don't know. I I I would just I I got my conviction with them like early on. So I was just, I just want to be a part of it. I want to learn. And then yeah, just to see where it's like.

SPEAKER_03 36:14

Is it going to surpass your job income soon? Or no?

SPEAKER_02 36:18

Uh on a daily basis, if I still keep going the way I'm going, yes, it will. Now, will will it replace it? Who knows? Like, you know, I have a I have a pretty good income, so I can't really give up a job just because, you know, security reasons. The dream is to do that one day. But the dream is to be financially free.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

But having that income plus this is like sexual. So I guess what's what's the downside of uh I guess trading with you guys? Because I mean it sounds pretty good to me. There's no possible downside, I guess. No, no, there is downside.

SPEAKER_04 36:50

The downside is you have to sometimes wait a little longer than your gambling mind wants to. So the reason people like trading as a whole, you got to think of the hierarchy of things, right? There's dating coaching and fitness coaching, which means, oh fuck, I have to do the work. I can't just pay for box. Right? Like that's what it's telling you, bro. Like, people don't want to do it. And they're in Miami or wherever they're in LA, wherever it's popular and they want to do. Okay. Then there's like start a business, flip houses, Airbnb. People know they have to do work. They know, like, they're not confused. Trading in the human mind is is like gambling. They're like, I'm sitting behind a screen, there's numbers, let me place a bet. So they think they're gonna be rewarded like a gambler. And sometimes they are. Today, our what was our trade that went up 100% today? What trade was that?

SPEAKER_02 37:36

It was Tesla. Tesla. Tesla call.

SPEAKER_04 37:38

Well, what say the exact call? Do you remember?

SPEAKER_02 37:40

Um, it was a 355 call 355.

SPEAKER_04 37:46

Tesla 355 call expiration date today. Yeah. Okay. So that trade, like you'll see this on our vlog. We cannot edit this. It's literally shooting up, and he's type, he's typing. Do you know what Whisperflow is? Where you talk to type? Bro, everyone here download Whisperflow. You press the FN key on your computer and you just talk, and the computer types wherever you want. Email, Discord, Slack. He's he's talking 55%, 65%.

SPEAKER_03 38:11

What's it called again?

SPEAKER_04 38:12

Whisper flow. I'm not an investor. This is not that is it changed my life. It's on your phone and computer. Whisper flow will change your life. Live on air. It's on my computer right now, changed it, changed my life. You know what, you know what intelligence is? Intelligence is what you guys just did. The sign of taking information and acting on it.

SPEAKER_03 38:29

Right away.

SPEAKER_04 38:30

My fucking trader, who's sitting over there, took the information of Whisperflow the next day was on his computer. And on our vlog today, he's going 55%, 65%, 75%, 85%, 95%, 100% sold. Like you will see this. So the point is. Where am I at an auction right now? So the point is there are gambling rewards like that. The problem is people expect that every time. So that's the downside. I I had a woman email me yesterday, 60-year-old woman, nice lady, paid for our mentorship, realized, and I told her, I was like, I think you should pay for software. She's like, no, I really want to learn. Realize it would take a lot of her, uh, you know, a decent amount of her time. And then she was like, um, I think I want to upgrade a software. I'm like, cool, here's a software price. She's like, cool, cool. Now she's on the software. She's like, Cam, um, I'm really happy with you guys. I think you guys know what you're doing, but I just want to make sure that I'm gonna make money here because it's been like two weeks and I haven't made enough money. And I'm like, okay, enough money with respect to what? So people need to have, and I say this with dating too. If you don't have something to compare something to, then your expectations come from your head. Okay. So if I say, if I say I want to date a runway model who's a PhD, also only 22 and also worth 10 million, I'm setting myself up for failure because it doesn't exist. So women have these expectations for men too. They're like, I want somebody who's jacked, six feet tall, uh, multimillionaire, doesn't cheat, does this, does this, doesn't have a social life, only cares about me. Who is he? Have you found him or are you just making it up? So the same thing with trading. Don't make things up that nothing has in life has shown you is true.

SPEAKER_01 40:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

So there are gonna be months that you might be down, but there might be quarters when you're up. Are you willing to wait? The only clients that we have that genuinely fail simply don't play the game for long enough.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

That's it. Good point.

SPEAKER_04 40:16

Yeah.

unknown 40:16

All right.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

We got any chat serious, Bills? I love that. By the way, super chat questions as well, because this is live, by the way. Um, you know what's funny? I um I started learning learning trading, right? And it's going pretty well, but I can only imagine sitting down and focusing on this all day. It's mentally draining. So I don't actually want to have like an auto trader or system I can follow because I can streamline, I could do this, set it, forget it, I focus on what I'm good at.

SPEAKER_04 40:48

So can I say one thing to that? Yeah, the reason why most people get scammed by auto traders is because they are AI powered, not API powered. Here's the difference. I want to say names. I'm not gonna say names. Someone can sell an AI bot, which means you can use it, and you don't know if the trader's actually using it.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

You don't know. I don't know, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:16

The API connects your trading account to mine. So if I lose, you lose. If I win, you win. I'm incentivized to win. You're in all the trades that I'm in, and it can be proven every single time. Wow. Any day you can say, Cam, did you do this trade? Yes. Because that's what the API does. Otherwise, how would it fucking put trades on your account?

SPEAKER_03 41:35

Right.

SPEAKER_04 41:36

So very few people have this built, and very few people have this as an SEC compliant option.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

How do you handle losses? Well, you just gotta just sometimes you just gotta take the loss, right? Accept it. But you just gotta just trust the process. That's really what it is. Right. So when we have losses, sometimes we just I would say there's barely any losses, to be honest. Because if we have one losing trade, the next five trades are winning trades. Seven or up. Like it's like, I mean, yeah, we have losses every now and then, but it's like literally like that. Like you may have one losing trade, but then the next five, six, seven are winning trades. And it just as long as you stick to your risk management, the loss is not gonna hurt you. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 42:24

If you do the risk management right, yeah. The second thing I'll say, great point. The second thing I'll say is understanding that just because a trade is in the red doesn't mean you lost. So that's the power of options, is that you can set the dates in which your trades expire. So we said the gold trade January 2027. Who gives a fuck what happens until then? That's the last date where it should matter. Yeah. But people aren't willing to wait. Cam, I'm down 50%. We just had an Amazon trade what? What was it down? 80%?

SPEAKER_02 42:54

It was down 80. Now it's up 50%, and that expires in September.

SPEAKER_03 42:59

So would you say trade money that you don't actually need is a better option? Because if I don't need the money, I can set it, forget it. But if I need the money tomorrow, hey.

SPEAKER_04 43:09

Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do that. I would I would only trade money that you technically have to lose. But if possible, I would go play with some sort of leverage. I don't mean margin from Robin Hood.

SPEAKER_01 43:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 43:20

For example, can I hype you up a little bit? So he'll make multiple six figures a year. He has a great W2. Multiple six, not 100k. He makes multiple six figures a year. So that's why when you asked him, can he replace his job? It's like his job makes really good money. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 43:33

So he doesn't this is extra, basically.

SPEAKER_04 43:35

This is extra. This is his investments. He doesn't need to necessarily take profit all the time. Even for me, I look at my trades like my investment account. I let it keep growing. Then I sell my software and my consulting to people that also want to make similar money trading. Now, how do um what was your uh your question exactly? Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

I mean, so basically, like let's say oh, trade with.

SPEAKER_04 44:00

Money you don't uh have or you have like thousand dollars and I need that money. No, don't don't trade with that. You should trade with money that you're willing to let sit in trades for a while. The reason I say a while is it could be a day like today with Tesla, it could be a week with a different trade, it could be two weeks, it could be four weeks, it could be three months. This is your investments. Okay, okay. This is how you create potentially if you start with 25k, 150 to 250k a year in cash flow.

SPEAKER_03 44:27

Because the problem I see here, especially with the markets, is that like inflation is coming at a rapid rate. So putting in a bank, you lose money. Putting it in real estate, you got to maintain that, spend more money. Yeah, so I'm looking at things I can put into put money into that makes money little headaches. Correct. And I would say trading is definitely gonna be one for me. Uh crypto as well, certain certain coins. But the headache of real estate is dude, it's it's it's a lot.

SPEAKER_04 44:52

Real estate for us, bro, with people with real money is not for cash flow, it's for taxes.

SPEAKER_03 44:56

Yeah, it is for taxes.

SPEAKER_04 44:56

So I'm getting into real estate this year and next year. I have two plays I'm doing, but they're basically gonna help me not pay as much taxes in a legal way.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

Cars too, by the way. Certain cars.

SPEAKER_04 45:05

Oh, oh, right off with the like the roles and stuff. Yeah, G-Wagging and stuff. Yeah, with the weight. Yeah, the weight. Yeah, 100%. Um, so yeah, I would look at trading like you're growing your investment account because most other things either take too much work to make the money you want, and if you have a busy job, it's just gonna be hard for you to like also have an Airbnb business or also flip houses. But like Sahil has a job and he trades, like you can do it.

SPEAKER_03 45:35

What's the biggest mistake you see beginners make in trading? Biggest mistake.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

Um, I would say just let's I would just say not understanding exactly how to enter trades. So sometimes, you know, they might put out a signal and then you're entering at the wrong time. Like you have to pay attention to like what time they put it, what the what the price is, what contract you're getting. So those are like small mistakes that a lot of beginners make.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

What's the schedule like? Wake up at 8 a.m. or today we traded from what?

SPEAKER_04 46:06

Uh we were at we were pre-market, 8 15 Eastern in Miami, and we were done by 10 38. Yeah, we're gonna do that. I think it was 10 38 exactly. Usually we're done in like two, three hours. Yeah. Like I wake up, I trade for two hours, and then I'm done.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:21

Most of the time, yes. Sometimes that we will see something coming towards market closing and we'll want to enter, but most of the time it's like two, three hour sessions. Yeah. Even for you though, bro, for somebody that's out late, just go auto. Because it connects it to mine. Let me like it's my account. You're trading with me, like literally with me. Like the AI shit, the problem with the other auto traders, you no one knows if anybody's skin is in the game.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

So I met a couple people this past year, right? Um, and they have connections kind of like you, where they have someone that is very well versed in trading, and let's say, listen, put like 20k in this, 100k in this, and automatically it's just 10xs. Now, if I could have somebody like that in my pocket, like Cam here, to do that with his with his account, and I can see his account like that, that's that's powerful because I could trust that you're gonna make money for yourself. Example, i.e., me as well. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 47:17

100%.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

And and he tells you when to sell.

SPEAKER_04 47:19

Yeah, so this is the big thing. Talk about your crypto experience. You don't need to say names, but talk about with crypto how you use you share it. I'm not gonna prime you.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

Go ahead. Yeah, so I got into crypto last year in January. So I kind of came in at the tail end of the cycle, but things were already high. So the things I was buying, like coins, Bitcoin and Ethereum were too expensive for me. So I was buying altcoins, and um yeah, I they were already kind of high. Yeah, then we had the tariff dip in April, everything kind of came crashing down, and I was just putting every single dollar, dollar cost averaging, right? Just because, you know, all they had, you know, they they could these guys are telling me, like, hey, this coin's in a 5x, 10x. So in my head, I'm chasing a big bag, right? Like, I want to be a millionaire bag, right? Just like every other crypto trader that wants to do it. And then October came, the top was in, we didn't really have an alt season, everything came crashing, and I not only did I lose my profit, I was up by 30k at one point. Wow, I lost the 30k and the 70k of investment that I made.

SPEAKER_04 48:26

Damn. So so here's that they didn't tell me when to sell. So this is the big lesson is that though, it's not that crypto doesn't work. It's not that there's not rich crypto traders, it's not that there's not profitable, successful crypto traders. It's that they didn't tell him when to sell. The system doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:45

Okay. So we tell you when we, this is another thing that makes even our mentorship SEC compliant. We are telling you when we are buying and selling, when we are taking profits. Because with options, it's not just as simple as buy now, sell now. It's adding two positions, selling one position. We're selling certain things and buying certain things within the same trade, amounts, I should say. So we're telling you when we're doing that so you can follow along. Okay. I'll give you an example of like how this differs from stocks too. That's I think very important to understand. If you put $10,000 into Tesla in 2018 and waited till today, you would have made $150K. It's a lot of money. But you had to wait seven years or 2018 to 2026, eight years.

SPEAKER_03 49:27

Eight years.

SPEAKER_04 49:28

If you did that same thing starting in 2020, you wouldn't have made a lot of money. The reason why is because the big run was from 2018 to 2019 on Tesla. That's when it really blew up. So the point is stocks, you have to keep buying and keep buying and keep buying and just tie your money up, tie your money up, tie your money up. And you kind of got to keep holding it, and you need a lot of money for it to make you money. That's the reason why the biggest investment banks and hedge funds in the world, Goldman Sachs, example, Charles Schwab, Merrill Lynch, whoever, they are buying a lot of stock on margin 90% of the time. Meaning they're like, hey, I'm gonna buy a bunch of stock of Tesla stock, for example, with millions. And then if it goes up 5%, I'll make a lot of money. That's good. But you, you, you, maybe you want to put $5, 10K here. 5K and Tesla doesn't do shit for you. Nothing. So the strategy doesn't work. Now, what uh what uh the big banks, Goldman Sachs, etc., do 10% of the time. I just told you what they do 90% of the time. What they do 10% of the time is what we do 100% of the time. Trading options. Why is that important? Because we're in a we're a big fish in a small pond. We're only competing with 10% of the hedge fund's greatness as opposed to the other 90% where we just can't win. We just don't have enough money. Hundreds of thousands of dollars that we have to trade with, even me and my team, it doesn't matter. It's not we can't compete with hundreds of people.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

And the big pool is so uh small, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 50:47

We can't move. We can't make enough. The 5% return doesn't do shit for us.

SPEAKER_03 50:51

But I rather than make something than nothing at all.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

So we're not gonna. But it's called being efficient. Most people have five to twenty K that they can put in, right? Most successful people even have five to twenty to put in. Even you. You were like, I'll put 10. You're not trying to risk 100 right now.

SPEAKER_03 51:08

Yeah, no, right now. But but let's say, right, I got three options real estate, 401k, and and trading. What would you choose and why?

SPEAKER_04 51:17

Well, obviously I'm biased, but four okay, a 401k means you're tying your money up till you're 59 and a half for potentially a few hundred grand. That's a finesse problem. And if you need it before that, you pay a penalty.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:29

And you still pay taxes. So and you still pay taxes. So think about think about what a 401k is. Who do you think's rich? The people investing in their 401k or the 401k company that's doing riskier things. There's a reason they can pay you a certain percentage.

SPEAKER_03 51:44

Because they're getting more.

SPEAKER_04 51:45

Because they're making more doing other shit that they can't tell you about because they're smarter and you're stupid for investing. Okay. Second thing. Well aside. Second thing. Well aside. Yeah. Real estate. Okay. My uncle is really rich off real estate. Like eight figures. Why I say that though is because he started with real estate brokerage, meaning he sold real estate. Then he got connected with the people buying, uh leasing his buildings. Who were those people? Startup founders in the Silicon Valley. Then he got the opportunity to invest in companies like Uber. He made six million on Uber. Okay? Pre-IPO. Why I'm saying that though is because then he took all that bread and invested in real estate investing. So people don't understand. You're not just gonna like run it up from real estate investing. I'm for the first time as someone who's probably gonna make three conservative, five optimistic, three to five mil this year. Now I'm investing in real estate for tax purposes, not because I want to make 300 bucks a month on a rental property.

SPEAKER_03 52:41

Yeah, that's look look, we tell everybody get real estate because tax obviously purposes, but cash flow, right? And when you look at it from a cash flow point of view, I can make off a property 500 bucks, but then I gotta pay taxes. I gotta pay for repairs, I gotta pay for incidentals. And whatever I'm making every month and a year is gone because I just spent 10k on a roof. Yeah, you know, 5k the plumbing. So it is good to have the property for taxes, yeah, but cash flow is never enough because things always go wrong. Murphy's Law. And as a matter of fact, I would argue headaches, tenants got issues, you so that's what I'm like, you know, I'm bullish on coins now, I'm bullish on like trading because at least with that, less stress. I mean, it's still stressful, by the way, but it's not like, hey, uh, this happens to your apartment at 8 a.m. in the morning.

SPEAKER_04 53:28

You know what one of my biggest business mentors taught me? He has about 10 mil, 11 mil liquid. Every time I bring him a deal, that I'm like, hey, what do you think about this? He's like, I want some one time he told me this, it stuck with me forever. He's like, I like to invest in things with more upside. Well, fuck yeah, he's worth 10 to 10 to 10, 10 million liquid, 11 million liquid. Of course he likes to invest in things with more upside. It's very hard to get there with something that everyone can do really easily. You know why they say 99% of traders fail? Because trader trading is fucking hard. Yeah. So bro, we don't have a lot of Sahels in our group. That's why I'm not like, oh yeah, like anyone can do it. No, no, no. You need the time, you need the discipline, and you need to give a shit.

SPEAKER_03 54:15

In fact, you came here from your job with six figures plus, yeah. It's like, bro, you this must I I can't imagine coming here for a scam, bro. Like, you don't leave your job, come here for a show, just for this. It'd be dumb. Definitely smart, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:27

Yeah, so and and and um yeah, like we vlogged this morning, we're gonna vlog tomorrow. We're gonna show you two days of consistent trades, of consistent trading days. We might lose tomorrow. We'll fucking show it anyways. Mark my words, I'm I'm talking in front of however many people. We will show a two-day vlog. We flew him out to do a two-day vlog trading days where we are showing you what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 54:50

I like honesty because I I I just promise you, bro, some guys are so conceited and cocked it, like, yo, you never looked a trade with me. Ever looked a trade. I'm like, bro, please stop it.

SPEAKER_04 55:02

What do you mean you don't lose a trade? Yeah, no, no winning trader doesn't lose trades. It just doesn't make sense. I I you will lose trades with me. You'll just win more. Like, otherwise, why? This is what people don't get. They they ask the question, right? You're gonna ask it at some point. Let's just address it. Why do you sell the trading software? Why do you teach people how to trade if you make all the money are so good at trading? Well, here's why. Why does somebody have different investment vehicles? Why does a hedge fund manage the money of other people? Well, they could just manage their own. Well, if you have more, if you have more buying power as a hedge fund, you'll make more money. Everybody, it's all together. With us, it's I look at money in a different way. I say, hey, I have a cash flow business for my bills and my lifestyle, which is selling a system that works that I use, meaning my trades over here. If I was scamming, why would I create a software that connects your trading account to mine where all the responsibility is on me? If that was the case, then I would just do mentorship forever and not solve my client's problem. Some of my clients, since since my last show, they said, Cam, we just don't have the time. I'm like, okay, cool, I'm gonna solve this. I went and solved it and now it's solved. So the point is, why would I put all the responsibility on me? Because when if I lose for the next year, they're gonna be like, I can't say it's their fault, but with mentorship, I can because I know the people don't show up, don't succeed. Yeah. But with software, you don't have to show up. It's automated. Yeah, if if I lose your money, I can't blame you for it. I can't blame them. I can I can't blame anyone. I can only blame myself. So why would I take on that responsibility if I wasn't good?

SPEAKER_03 56:28

Good point. Dumb people. Very good point. All right, uh, we got any chats here at all of those?

unknown 56:33

No, we don't have to.

SPEAKER_03 56:34

So we're gonna do after hours uh coming up actually in 30 minutes. And it's funny because at this point, like uh I am actually gonna invest with Gam myself personally, guys. And because I want to expand my um portfolio. I want to make sure I get more out of it because we don't have like a lot of time left. Three years max before AI takes full full full control of most companies and most uh protocols, which means your job may be not existent tomorrow or next year. You don't know that for a fact, but it's probably gonna be uh less of a uh win for you. So I always say, you know what, guys, find ways to make more money elsewhere. And if you don't know, look into it and then learn from it because the fact that you're here, bro, is impressive.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 57:19

Because if it wasn't working, bro, I would not come here. Um Jonathan NX8 says, shout out to my homie slash co-worker Sahel. Putting work and grinding, seeing it firsthand, only getting only four hours of sleep per day. Wow. Let's go. Happy to see the homies winning. WFNF, WC Heal. Shout out to you, bro. Yeah, you bro.

SPEAKER_04 57:38

He works at night. That's why it's on his phone.

SPEAKER_03 57:42

Okay, so what's next for you and where can it find you?

SPEAKER_02 57:46

Um sorry, can you say that anything?

SPEAKER_03 57:49

Yeah, what's what's next for you? But um, Cam and then where can it find you?

SPEAKER_02 57:52

Yeah, so what's next for me? Uh I just want to continue building my skill set. Um, really trying to master this skill. Um, I love it. And uh you can find me on Instagram as uh Sahil Ram2 underscores. Um, and you could also contact Cam.

SPEAKER_03 58:06

You know, how does it feel to use your phone to make make money? Because you know, what's funny? Back in the day, I thought it was impossible. I can make money for my phone. Yeah, and like trading, you can do that. Yeah. So I was in a club, okay. So get it, right? I'm in a club in Miami. It's like uh you're in Africa, right? My buddy does like trading. So we're there, and he's like, yo, I'm gonna make this trade paper to table. I'm like, pfft, you're not making a trade paper table right now. It's it's like 11 p.m. at night. Or four X, or four X. He makes his trade, I see profit 6k. I'm like, no way. My the table's only 4k. Okay, he pockets 2K as table space for. I'm like, damn, yeah, that's some G shit. Yeah, and that's control and freedom.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

Yeah, and most people don't have that. No, so you know what's crazy is that for me, I'll make a $5,000 win in one day. And I'm like, dude, I just made my paycheck in one day. Wow. And I go to work and I'm like clocking in hours, putting in hours, which like I like my job, don't get me wrong. I'm grateful for it. But just the thought process to which I never thought would happen, is like making that kind of money in one day, let alone in a week, right? Because my paycheck is every two weeks. So it's like it's your perspective. It's your perspective. That is one trade in what less than like two minutes? Literally within 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_03 59:29

Someone's spending 40 hours.

SPEAKER_02 59:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:33

40 40 hours. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:35

So that's why I say the power of options is insane. That's why I believe in it so much. It's because it's life changing. It's a life changer for me. Good stuff, man.

SPEAKER_03 59:44

Yeah. So can't we're gonna mention what's up yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:47

So Profit with Cam, profit with cam on Instagram. So profit with K-A-M. And then we offer a free trial to the Discord guys. So we we don't we don't gatekeep stuff. If you come in, uh the link will be in the description of the episode. Yeah, down below you. What'll happen is you'll click, it'll say join Discord. You'll automatically get a permission that allows you to view everything, meaning the trades that we're in right now, and also trading success, which our clients literally post every day. So you'll be able to see other people making money and you can message them. Like we don't hold back, you can message them, talk to them, whatever. Um, and then my uh assistant will reach out to you and give you my calendar so we can chat and see where you're at and see how we can like potentially work together if that's what you're into. Either way, it doesn't matter. You get seven days to watch the show. What we found last time is that when we did that, um, people ended up realizing what was true, including Sahel, including shout-out Garrett Richardson if he's watching. Um, Garrett actually watched the show longer than you. Garrett joined the trial and watched all the way to the end. He said, Yeah, I'm not ready to pay yet. Then he watched, he's like, he didn't I didn't even get on his follow-up call. He just messaged me on Discord and said, Kim, I'm ready. Send me the link. Because he knows, right? Anyone who actually comes and shows up realizes we are the truth. So that's why I'm willing to give it away for free for a few days. Come find out. If you find out that the money is there, which you will, but you don't have the time, we have the automation option, which is what you're gonna do, right? Because you don't have the time. Um, so we've solved every problem. And to be real, man, I'm gonna close with this. We have solved one of the biggest problems in America. Here's what it is Americans are looking for upper class investments, but because they're in the middle class, they don't get access.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:22

They don't get access.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:23

And you have to be an accredited investor for this, you have to be connected. You think my uh my uncle just walked into Uber's office and said, Hey, let me uh invest in Uber pre-IPO? What the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

I'll be honest. Uh, the guys I know at the very top, they get so much access. They'll be like, yo, go buy this coin, sell by this date. You got $10 million. And I'm like, they would never get this ever. No, it's unfair. It's unfair. That's what I ask you. What's the edge you have? Because the edge makes you win. What's the edge you don't? What do you really have?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:49

Yeah. So you can come and see that the results are here. You'll come and see why, because you'll listen to my team talk and you'll understand what they know. Yeah. Right? What we've democratized is hedge fund investing for the middle class. Meaning, why do you have to wait until you're in the upper class to be part of the upper class again and again and again? No. Let's take somebody from the middle class and make them to the upper class. That's what actually matters when turn when it comes to my impact. I I was in the car driving with him and my boy to South Beach, and we were like, dude, I want to make Sahel rich as fuck. That's what matters to me at this point.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:21

It makes it look good as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:23

I I feel good about it though, bro. It's like, I want to hire, I'm hiring him this year because he's gonna teach our beginner strategies. Uh, sorry, our strategy to beginners, because he was just a beginner, but he put in the work and now he's no longer a beginner.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:33

Good stuff. That's the reality. Thank you. All right, guys, that's Money Monday, man, on Fresh and Fit. We're back with some girls as well. Uh Myron's covering the war right now, but uh should be a good show. And see you guys in the middle of it. Peace. We're out of here. Cheers. Boom.