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In this episode of the Disciples Made Here podcast, Drew and Heather dive into the first movement of the Disciples Diamond - Identify. Building on last week's conversation with Hugh Halter and the woman at the well, this episode gets practical about what it actually looks like to pray and watch for what God is already doing in the ordinary spaces of your life.

From the frequency illusion to Easter egg hunts to a 12-year-old who set his own 9:38 alarm without being asked, Drew and Heather unpack why identifying isn't a new skill to learn — it's just learning to see what was already there. They walk through Matthew 9:35-38, introduce the Pray Watch List, and explain what green shoots actually are and why we're praying for them.
This isn't about adding something new to your schedule. It's about tuning your brain to the opportunities already in front of you;  your Frank, your neighbor, the tall guy at the baseball field, the redhead at the coffee shop. They're already there. The Easter eggs are everywhere. We just have to look.

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Reflection Questions
Who are your Franks? Take a few minutes to write down a friend, relative, acquaintance, neighbor, or kid that God has already placed in your path.
Where do you see the same people showing up in multiple spaces of your life? That overlap is worth paying attention to.
Have you set your 9:38 alarm yet? If not, stop and do it now. And when it goes off, pray Matthew 9:38 for the people already on your list.

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SPEAKER_00

Welcome back to the Disciples Made Here podcast. I'm Heather Hudson and this is Drew Sodestrom.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, thanks for joining us. We're gonna be diving in and picking up kind of where we left off. So last week we left off on John chapter four and this beautiful passage with the woman at the well, and that's when you and I were together last. And then we actually invited Hugh, my friend, to come and join us and look at what God's doing in his life and not just to him, but through him. Um, because it's not just the Bible in their town, but it's in our town too. It's in yours and my life, and it's in Hughes town as he's living out the gospel where he lives, works, and plays.

SPEAKER_00

So you use this phrase, he uses this phrase a lot, um, their town, our town. Explain what that means.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so their town would be biblically speaking in their context. So the woman at the well, Jesus is at a well on his way to Samaria. Our town would be where we live. And so where are we hanging out? And that's something that I love is that it's not just what's going on there, it's what's going on here right now. And it's real stories and real time with real people like Heather, like Drew, like you, and like you, as you're listening with us.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. And like Hugh was talking, and I'm a CrossFitter. There's all these places that we spend our lives, and um, I know you kind of want to be a CrossFitter and I'm more of a crossfatter than a CrossFitter. But yeah, but we do. We get to do these things in our spaces and in the areas that we occupy. So, um, but m truly my favorite part of I love the woman at the well. Um, but I love all of this because it's just it's just it's all in here, it's all in the book, and it's not something that we are creating or we've made up, it's really just an observation of what Jesus does, and you can just watch it play out. Um, and I love that because we can emulate that from that.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And it's important for us and even to recognize last time we got together, the the two of us, it was this broad overview of the disciple making diamond.

SPEAKER_00

We did the whole kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01

And so today we're gonna get really nitty-gritty and look at each one of those steps over these next four weeks.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, but it is for us, it's just a pathway, it's not a playbook, it's just who Jesus is and what did he do. So, in the same way that he did that for the woman at the well in their town, yeah. Yeah, uh, and Hugh and you. Um, and the first step of that disciple making diamond is identifying. It is saying, God, what are you doing for your glory, for our good? And so as we pull apart what we're calling the diamond paradigm, um, that first step is identifying. It's how do we be the everyday missionary, the evangelist that God calls us to be.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and so there's that word evangelism. And you know, we get to this place with a lot of people, and people are like, ooh, I'm not an evangelist. I don't really want to do that. It sounds uncomfortable when I say people, I mean myself. I'm like, oh, no, I don't really want to do that.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and I thought growing up in the church and even in ministry, I thought I had the gift of evangelism, but it was like years later, I'm like, actually, I don't. I'm called to be an apostle. I think that's how God's wired me. Okay. I'm a closet introvert, and people tease me, but it's like real, you know that as my friend, you're like, oh yeah, I know he he shuts it down. But if you have a gift of evangelism, like that's amazing. We have a guy on our staff, Hunter. Like he totally has a gift of evangelism. Yeah. But the Great Commission is not just for the evangelist. Right. Nor is it just for the pastors. It's for the CrossFitters, the moms, the dads, the sons, and the daughters. And so that's something I think important for us. And we're talking about the diamond, it's not whether you're an evangelist or not, it's you are evangelizing. And what I mean by that is you're sharing what you care about. Um, and that looks like all sorts of different things. Like you share about CrossFit because you care about it. We share about our kids and our spouses because we care about them. We care about sports and and different restaurants and show. We tell our friends about things because we experienced it and we want them to experience it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you can't help it. You like maybe it's a girlfriend, but like, you get a new face wash, and you're like, oh my gosh, you guys have to try this face wash.

SPEAKER_01

Like I've never said that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but you know what I mean. Like it's you're gonna accidentally talk about what is like good for you, working for you, something that you like.

SPEAKER_01

And you don't even have to try to. It just comes out. It is evangelism. A hundred percent.

SPEAKER_00

Which is funny to think about. I wouldn't normally think about it like that.

SPEAKER_01

So the question is, what are you evangelizing? Like you're sharing this thing with someone you love, and it comes out naturally. Yeah, and so it's not if you're an evangelist, it's what are you evangelizing people to or towards? And our hope is that you start to see that Jesus is the source of your joy. Right. And if that's true of you, then he's what leaks out of you naturally as you go, um, that discipleship is happening as you continue to live your life.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, for sure. And as we walk through these places, like there's a concept in um human psychology called the uh the frequency illusion. So basically it's like your Drew calls it the white rodeo illusion, but there's a real name for it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Well, and for me, the reason why I say that is because when I was getting my first real car, like I bought the junker off my grandma and I drove that and other things. But then when I saved up my money and I had a real job, and then I got a real car, I wanted to buy a white azuzu rodeo. I couldn't afford like a forerunner or like a big boy car, but this was like the mock one. And I thought I'd be the only one. And then as I bought it, I started to drive around Northern California where I lived, and I'm like, everyone has a white azuzu rodeo. Like it felt like they were everywhere. All of a sudden, after I bought it, was there this huge increase in white rodeos?

SPEAKER_00

No, that's that's the frequency illusion. So essentially, like your when you draw your attention to something, when you decide something's important to you, your brain has a confirmation bias. So it's you have selective attention. We all have selective attention, so you can only focus on so many things at once, right? Um, but your brain wants to confirm the things that you deem important. So now all of a sudden they were always there, but now all of a sudden you're seeing them. That's the frequency illusion. Um, and that all plays out here. And I mean, in lots of places, like you're you're we just got done with our Easter egg hunt as a church, right?

SPEAKER_01

Maybe you have one as a family coming up. We're in Holy Week and um Easter egg hunts when I had little kids. It's not the same now. Now we like hide them, but I've always wondered why we call the Easter egg hunts when they were like four. Yeah. Because if you look, at least at our church or in our family, you hide the eggs everywhere. Like they're literally like it shouldn't be called the hunt. Like you're stepping on eggs. You're like, kids, go find them. And everywhere they go, they'd have to be literally like have no senses, blind, can't see, can't step, can't feel, can't touch, to miss what's right in front of them. Like, so it's cute and funny when you're like, go find them, and it's like they're literally everywhere.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So these all play together, kind of as to what we're talking about. But and I'm gonna, we're gonna kind of enter into how this works in the diamond, but I have to say this is somehow becoming my mantra. But like, we're not asking you to do an extra thing, we're just having you tune your brain to the opportunities that are already in front of you. So that's like an important piece of this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and so when we say the word identify in the diamond, that first step is just to look and see what's already around you. And so that's how we're gonna try to like ironically identify in the life of Jesus what were his patterns, what were his rhythms, his pathways to just see. He listened to the father, he only did what the father told him to do, and to just see what was right in front of him. And so I want us for just a quick second to look at the the words of Jesus always, but the ways of Jesus.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And so if you have your Bibles, you can flip there. Otherwise, I'll just read a couple verses over you. But if you remember the Great Commission, which isn't just for evangelists, it's for all sons and all daughters, all followers of Christ, is to, as you are going, make disciples. Yes. And so when he first calls us disciples in Matthew chapter four, um I'm biased because Andrew is there. Uh he's one of the first disciples. And so chapter four, verse 18, it just says, While Jesus was walking by the sea. And so it's very natural, it's very organic. It's just as he's going, and he sees these fishermen, Andrew and Peter, and they're casting their nets because that's what fishermen do. And then we see this, Jesus has this call in verse 19. He said to them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. Now go all the way back to the beginning of the podcast. We had two core ideas identity and calling. Yep. The identity is follow me. The calling is as you follow me, you're gonna make fishers of men. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And so I love this calling attention to both of those.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and he says immediately they left their nets and they followed him. Now, when I used to read this, I would be like, They left everything. They left their nets. It changed, and again, do you say, no, no, no, just as you are going. I'm worth everything. But by the way, these guys went back to being fishermen later. Yeah. But they entered into a three-year camping trip with Jesus, and it starts for Jesus that he's where the joy is, and it starts just as he's going. He's calling and inviting people to follow him, and that continues on. In fact, if you keep reading in chapter 8, a couple chapters later, Jesus is building his kingdom. He's kind of on this teaching miracle tour. But what I love, and you can even see in my Bible, it's all highlighted here. The beginning of every paragraph just starts as very natural, normal things. As Jesus comes down a mountain, chapter 8, verse 1, when he entered Capernaum, verse 5. He goes into Peter's house, verse 14. He's with a crowd in verse 18, he gets into a boat in verse 23. These are all normal. He's just living life. Living life. Just as he's going. And then we get to chapter 9, verse 1. He gets into a boat, he passes on, he reclines at a table, eating his ministry moments, boating, fishing, live, work, play. Like I love this as we look at the life of Jesus, not just his words, but his ways, he's showing us a pattern for how do we invite people into relationship with God, but also with us. And then we get to like our favorite passage that disciples made here, which is Matthew chapter 9, verse 36 through 38. And I'll read this specifically. It actually starts in verse 35. And Jesus went throughout all the cities and the villages, teaching in their synagogues, proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom of God, proclaiming that there's more joy in me than anything else, healing their diseases and every affliction. And then when he saw the crowds, he had compassion on them because they were harassed and helpless like sheep without a shepherd. And this is huge. Jesus sees us in our journey. And so he says, I have compassion for your lack of joy. I have compassion for more that I want for you. And so we say, R1, deepening with God is our one for a reason. And so that's where Jesus' compassion comes from. His heart is broken because they don't have a walk with the Father that he has that he wants.

SPEAKER_00

And then he says to his disciples that are with him, Yeah, so this is where he I love this part. I really do. Because then Jesus tells them, uh, therefore, pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest and to send out labors into the harvest. So essentially he's saying, Now what you need to do is pray and uh do that work. That's the work. Um and he's saying that the need is is big, there's a big need for it, and that there's gonna be few laborers for it. So that's kind of where we've anchored that. And you know, we've talked about why we set that alarm there. Um, but that that's important.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And he says, hey, pray. That is the work. It's why we have those sweatshirts and they're on the website that prayer is the work. Um, because so often we're like, well, what do we got to do? You and I are both activators and achievers. Yeah, and here's what he tells us to do to pray. Right. And I love it, even as you're reading it, like it's helpful to hear it out loud. He says harvest three times. I know.

SPEAKER_00

Like this is like stumbled over it because I was like, wait, yeah, did I read that already?

SPEAKER_01

This is the big idea. There everyone in the world wants to be happier tomorrow than they are today. Right. That's not gonna happen until they meet our Jesus. Yeah. And so as Jesus is going, his heart's breaking because there's people not living with him, not living for him, not following him. Missing out on him. Yeah, and he wants more for you and me.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Um, especially if we're we were made to be sons and daughters, but if we're settling for less, if we're not walking with him. So that's where the heartbreak comes. And then he tells his disciples, here's what you can do, Peter. Right. Heather Drew, you want to do something? Yeah, here's what you can do. He says, pray. I love that he says pray earnestly too.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like if you think about that word, it's not before, after dinner. It's not, I hope the warriors win. Or, you know what I mean? Like, it's this like desperate, dependent life, death. It's how I pray for my kids, it's how I pray for Brainware in the hospital. Like, I want more than what I'm settling for. This is not like this is eternal stuff. Prayer is not preparation for the work. He says, Peter, James, John, Heather, Drew, this is the work. You can't save people. So pray to the Lord of the harvest who can. And again, that's why we set these alarms. And we're a couple weeks in as a team now, if you've been following with us, to setting that alarm. I pray that that alarm at 9:30 it is disrupting your day.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_01

That it's literally stopping you in your track, like it did on the podcast the other day, right? Where you're like, wait, what? Yeah. It's such a good reminder, and that's the big idea, right? And so hopefully in three weeks, you've been disrupted now a couple of times where you're like, wait, Jesus is already working. The Easter eggs are everywhere. There really are white is Uzuzi rodeos. That's what matters most. And so I'm praying, and I love the picture that Corey Tenboone gives us where she says, prayer is one of two things. It's either your spare tire in your trunk where we pull it out when we have a flat tire or we're in trouble or something's wrong. Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

It's our last ditch ever kind of.

SPEAKER_01

Totally. Or it's your steering wheel.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

They're both circles, like they both matter, but what is it? And I just hope for me that prayer is the work. That's what just tells us in Matthew chapter nine. Right.

SPEAKER_00

So when you start looking for people intentionally, and that's kind of what we're talking about here, is it's just like the white rodeo. You start to see them everywhere. And it's not that they weren't there before, it's just that now you're clued into it. Um, and when you start praying for those people specifically, then you start getting to see a lot of opportunities that you've really always had, but now you get to take advantage of.

SPEAKER_01

And I am convinced that Satan doesn't have to attack us if he can distract us. And that's what the prayer alarm does for me. It realigns me with what matters most instead of being distracted, right? Which like, no, I I want Satan to attack us because we're storming the gates of hell and we're making a difference, and people are becoming fishers of men and fighting for their joy. But my fear is again, I'm just too distractable to even be attackable.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and it's not that's the thing, it's not magic. The everything was already there, you're just clued into it. So um the now we're gonna walk through kind of creating what we call our pray watch list.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and this was like a practical tool that we've been using for over a decade now. It actually started for me on my phone forever ago. Um, and it's just a list of people that I see regularly in the rhythms of my life that I'm just praying for. And I literally, when my alarm goes off for 938, I'm praying Matthew 938. Lord, you're the Lord of the harvest. I don't save people, but would you do a work in Heather's life? Would you do a work in Trent's life or in Sarah's life? Would you call them to yourself? Like I'm praying for my friends that they would be happier tomorrow than they are today. Yeah. And so the pray watch list is just identifying what's already around me. One of the churches that we've coached and they've worked with, um, they create an acronym, which I don't know because I use so many acronyms to that bless me or offend me or whatever, but it's a great acronym. But they said, we're just calling our church to pray for Frank. Um and they say Frank means a friend, a relative, an acquaintance, a neighbor, or a kid, right? Like, who are you praying for that God's intersected your life? Like, I look at my life. I know I was on my grandma's pray watch list. Like, I know I'm here today because of grandma Sue, because of Grandma Jean, who's with Jesus now, but they wanted me to be with Jesus. Like I remember as a young kid being like, oh, I blew it, I messed up, something's wrong. And my grandma's like, no, God's got you. Um, I pray for you. It was like a matter of fact. Why? Because they pray to the Lord of the harvest and they know that he will seek and save the lost and transform us. And so I love that. And so as you create your pray watch list, I just want you to think about those francs in your life, those places and spaces. Where do you start to see people? And then where do you see them multiple times? So I see someone at the school, and then I see them at the gym, and then I see them at the coffee shop, and all of a sudden I'm praying for the same person three or four times in a week, and I don't always know their names, right? Like I just, they're just people that I want to be happier tomorrow than they are today, that I want the Lord of the harvest to do an incredible work. And so I'm just praying for more opportunities as I interact with them that again, they would see me as the living proof of loving God, that they would actually see God as the only source of joy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I love looking at, you know, you kind of create this list and you can do it on your phone, you can do it on a piece of paper, it doesn't really matter. Right. Um, but we get to look at it and then I love when like we'll randomly be talking about, like, oh, you know that person? I know that person. Oh, you've been praying for that person? I've I've been praying for that person. And I just feel like that's when the overlap of of a work living on mission as a family kind of uh then it's really on for those people.

SPEAKER_01

And it's fun because we raised our kids at the same elementary school, and so you have pray watch lists overlap in your life, but you have it with your spouse, with your friends, with the people that you are living with because the and as a pastor, it's so humbling to be a part of a church community where we're all praying and watching together, and so that overlap is strong. Yeah. Because we do intersect all the time. So you have overlap with people, and then your people get to be a family on mission together doing that. And so, again, hopefully by now you've set that alarm. 9 38. We actually encourage you to start your day praying. Uh, wake up. We have those stickers that again we've shared with you guys before, and they're gonna be on the website as well. Um, but God, what are you inviting me into? So you start your morning saying, God, what are you inviting me into? I'm looking for the white rodeo, I'm looking for the Easter eggs. Right. 9 38 then reminds you later in the day, oh, that's right, this is the big idea.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because by 9 38, even if I woke up praying, like God, what are you inviting me into? By 9 38, I've done a million things and I'm completely distracted and lost, and I'm definitely not focused anymore, unfortunately. Yeah. Um, and that's it's actually really funny. So I was preparing for this episode a couple days ago, and I was sitting on the couch um at home, and my son was sitting on the couch doing something, and um 938 alarm went off, and he we had gotten it, we got him a watch for Christmas, and he so his alarm on his watch goes off. And like, he's 12. I've never told him to set a 938 alarm. I've I didn't even know he had it. So and he goes, like, oh mom, it's 938, and I'm like, Oh. So I'm like, Pardon me, I'm like so excited and proud, like, oh my gosh, he has a 938 alarm. And then I'm like, okay, cool, like, want to pray for us? And he looks at me and he's like, Oh, because he didn't realize what the alarm did. I think he just noticed. So yeah, he had an alarm set. Yeah, totally. So apparently we set our alarms in our family and he observed that. Um, but he had no idea what we do because now that I say this out loud, I'm like, oh, because I pray inside of my head. I haven't been praying out loud, anyways. So so I'm like, yeah, that's what the this a prayer alarm. Like, that's why we set this alarm so we can pray. And he's like, Oh, okay. And he, I'm like, so wanna pray for us? And he's like, Okay. And he's like, I don't, this is another fail. So everyone's it's not a fail, it's a part of the journey. Okay, he's like, Oh, I only know how to pray before I eat.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, what do you mean? And he's like, Well, I normally just say like thanks for this food and like say a couple other things. I'm like, okay, all right, all right. And he's I'm like, so like this is, and so then I explained to him.

SPEAKER_01

This is like your first time to say this is not only what I'm doing, but why I'm doing it. Yeah, now I don't want to jump too far ahead, but we're gonna get to imitate in a few weeks. Right. And I love this because your kids are imitating you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I I didn't even realize that like he was even paying attention to A set his own alarm, but that I was was setting an alarm and then doing something quietly in my channel. Totally.

SPEAKER_01

And this is such an opportunity. Right, I love this.

SPEAKER_00

That was the that's why I wanted to share this because well, the crazy part is I was literally preparing for this episode while it was happening.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and we were talking about it. So, anyways, um, I explained to him, like, okay, this is why we set an alarm. It just gave me like a really cool opportunity, even to like say it out in my own head of like, why am I praying right now? And, you know, I'm preparing to like talk about this topic with a podcast. I'm like, okay, do I know why I'm praying at 938? Like I know the words that I say, but like, what am I doing? And so it was a really just like funny God moment of like, okay, Porter, like we, you know, this is what we're gonna pray for. We're praying that God like aligns our priorities with him and with who he, you know, sees and has for us to to be active in their lives, like help me see that because I'm already so distracted and my to-do list is already so important to me. Um, and so I'm like, just that's really all. You wanna like go for it? And he said just a darling 12-year-old prayer. And but it was just a it was a cool moment to honestly like solidify this for me. This is partly my job, and it still needs to be solidified for me, and God's still like, here, let's do this, you know. So, anyways, I just wanted to like bring that here because it feels relevant and it feels like I hope that these experiences come to everybody listening where just little things start to like happen and click, and it's just like such a god.

SPEAKER_01

And while you're living out your disciple-making journey with Jesus, you're actually discipling your son.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

And now you guys become pray watch partners, right? Right, where it's like something happens at school and you're like, hey, let's pray for them.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And now all of a sudden we're kingdom laborers because the harvest is plentiful, laborers are few, but now we're a part of that as a son, as a daughter, and how cool when it's with your kid. And for me, a lot of people on my pray watch list, like I said, I don't even know them. I I because I'm only praying and watching. I'm not taking any steps yet. Yeah, I'm just on that identified part of the disciples diamond. I'm just trying to be aware of what's happening. So it's the tall baseball guy, it's the redhead at the coffee shop, and God knows them, God knows their story, right? And I'm praying that they would experience more joy. And so to get to show it with your son to be like, hey, bud, this is what we do. Yeah, we are conduits of grace. We've received grace, we're giving that grace, and we're just praying for family, schools, neighbor, anyone that God has crossed our path with, and we're praying and watching for.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I I I love that.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yeah. So it all comes back to that of like, you know, what are we praying for? What are we watching for? What does that look like?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And what I like to call it is I like to say we're praying and watching for people that are asking questions. We're praying and watching for moments of gaps in people's lives between their presence and their desired state that we can step into and and be a presence for them. We're praying and watching just for the question behind the question. Yeah. We're praying and watching for green shoots. That's what I call it. Green shoots.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so backstory on green shoots. Green shoots, like little yeah, like little plants, like little plants growing out of the ground, like um budding possibilities, right? But uh we we did um a DMH conference for a church in Southern California. We went and like did a three day intensive thing. It was one of the When we're early on developing a lot of this stuff and we talk about green shoots, green shoots, green shoots, and we like that means something to us. That's like a big thing for what we're looking for. And um, at the very last day, one of the gals raises her hand and she's like, Okay, but can you just explain to me about the green shoes? And she, this whole time they thought we were saying green shoes, like green things on our feet.

SPEAKER_01

The good news is I'm a public communicator professionally. I don't own green shoes, but I am praying for green shoots, right? I'm praying that people would be like, What's going on? And how can I be a part of it? And how for them, like Andrew on the seashore or Peter, Jesus says, I see you. And God's calling people through us all the time. Yeah. And we don't save, we're not the Lord of the harvest, but we are praying for green shoots that God would do a work in them and call them to himself for his glory and for their joy. And that's what our prayers watch list. It's praying for people. God's intersected our life. We're praying that we can identify them and that they can see God for who he is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And then we have that list and we have that um, you know, part of our brain kind of active to look for those things. Um, and then we also kind of narrow it down. We say everyone has one. Okay, so everyone has somebody in their life that God has really put in that spot to like take take these actions with. Um, and one is kind of just a placeholder. Like we we have like lot, I have we say we have lots of ones, but we do talk about it at our church. Like everyone has one.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And again, I might have hundreds of people on my praying watch list, but some people at certain times are asking questions. Porter obviously is your son, is one of your ones, but he's asking these questions. Hey, mom, tell me more. Yeah. And then that question's been asked, so you can engage. And so I would encourage you to keep doing what you're doing, but just doing it with eyes to see what God's doing. Right. Right? It's the old John Piper quote: God's doing 10,000 things in your life, you know, three of them. By praying, I might know four, I might know five, I might see those quicker and more often. Yeah. He's the Lord of the harvest, so I don't have to be. We're just simply praying and watching. The Lord of the Harvest would send kingdom laborers to actually raise up people to be sent, sons and daughters on mission.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And when you get stuck in any of this, when any of this feels kind of uncomfortable or uncertain, um, I just want to encourage you that like that's really the whole reason that we're doing this podcast. Um, and something that I really want to be able to do coming up is do some episodes where we're we're talking about listener questions. So like please go onto our socials and DM us anything that you're wrestling with or struggling with, or maybe even feel like is a fail. Like I just said, I felt like some of my stuff with Porter, which isn't a fail. But if you're feeling like that, like share that because I really want to dive into that stuff. Because I, whenever I felt those feelings and whenever I was like struggling, I got to bring it straight to Jen, Drew's wife, who's one of my best friends, and just say, like, oh, what do I? I still do that to this day. We've had this conversation like three days ago where I'm like, oh, what do I do about this? And so I was a bit of a reluctant podcaster to begin with, and Drew convinced me largely because I would I would love to be able to be a Jen to anybody else who has some questions. So please, like, bring it, bring it to the DMs, let us know. I want to be able to A help and B, maybe use that to help other people too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and we'll use your questions and comments like you've been giving us to actually address specifically in future podcasts. And and I do believe that like discipleship can start online, it just can't stay online. Yeah, and discipleship can start with a podcast and start with you saying, Okay, how do I identify? But then now how one of the things that you and I do is we're actually sending people, right? Yeah. On Sunday mornings, I send people at the end of a sermon, but even on our podcast, we want to engage with you so that you can then engage with others, right? It's that three-year camping trip mentality. Jesus calls those disciples on the seashore and he says, Follow me. And as you follow me, you're gonna get more of me. And then you through you, I'm gonna give more of myself to others. And so do that. Jump onto socials, DM us, ask any questions that you want because we're humbled to be on this journey with you. I'm humble to be with you. Like you tell the Porter story, and I'm like, that's it. Yeah, like that's what we want for our kids to see. Oh, that's all right. Mom lives for a greater mission than ever work or making my lunch because sometimes our kids think that we exist for them. And like, no, mom lives because she's a kingdom laborer. Yeah, and she has a king on her heart, and she wants to give that to me as her son, but then I, Porter, gets like that. Is the coolest thing ever. And so thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, for sure. So um, thank you guys all for being here with us, seriously, um, and for giving this a shot. Just start walking it out, just give it a try. Um, wherever you live, work and play.