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EP19: Lindy Blakley's Story of Survival and Growth.
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Lindy’s Story: Surviving Abuse, Reclaiming Safety, and Building Riptide Helix
On the Irene Podcast, Hope interviews her friend Lindy, a mom of five, survivor of childhood abuse, and founder of Riptide Helix. Lindy describes an unstable childhood marked by homelessness, food scarcity, religious trauma, and a father who was physically, verbally, sexually, and spiritually abusive, with pressure to maintain a perfect image in a strict LDS environment. While pregnant at 31, Lindy experienced intense PTSD during intimacy, recovered suppressed memories of rape, and pursued EMDR therapy and support from a local women’s organization. She shares statistics on abuse and delayed disclosure, emphasizes finding the right therapist, and explains how her healing informs Riptide Helix, combining genomics health coaching, mindset coaching, and reiki to help others navigate “riptides” in life.
02:19 Childhood Instability
04:12 Soccer as Outlet
07:16 Image and Religion
11:20 ACEs and Not Alone
12:15 Shame and Taboo
14:09 Abuse Cycle at Home
15:41 Sexual Threat Awareness
18:33 Seeking Help Dismissed
21:27 Empathy and Accountability
28:57 Healing and Faith
33:02 Twenties and Trigger Event
34:22 Twenties Healing Reset
35:02 Cutting Dad Off
35:56 Mom Breaks Boundaries
37:46 Choosing No Contact
39:07 Fresh Start Move
39:44 PTSD Flashback Returns
41:04 The Fish Was Bigger
44:27 Horror Night Aftermath
48:19 Finding Support Systems
53:09 EMDR And The Science
57:02 Reclaiming Wholeness
01:01:48 Riptide Helix Mission
01:04:30 Closing Thanks And Links
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Hi, welcome back to the Irene Podcast. Today we have with us Lindy, and she is gonna share with us her story, and she's gonna tell us all about how she's learned to be so resilient and this beautiful, amazing person that you see today. She's one of my good friends, and I'm so excited to have her on today. So take it away, Lindy.
SPEAKER_02I'm a mama five. I am a survivor, and I'm also the founder of Riptide Helix. Why I said yes to this podcast is because Hope and I were able to go on this really cool walk where she was able to express what Irene's purpose is, and right away, I'm gonna get emotional right off the start. Hope but that that walk and having those couple moments with Hope and understanding Irene's purpose really resonates deep within me because of my upbringing and the abuse that I have survived and have gone through. And so I'm super excited to be here and to be able to talk about my story and a little bit maybe about where I'm going and how the abuse that I endured has kind of helped in a weird way catapult me into a different place and time and how exciting it is to go through the abuse, you know, difficulties, but then also know that there's another side, there can be another side, and that it can be positive.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the exciting part being that you get to use something that was traumatic and hurtful to just accelerate your growth exponentially into this beautiful woman that you're becoming, and that you are. But I love the evolution and the like I it's so exciting to watch women who are like in different phases of their life of healing. It's so beautiful to watch them just like peel the layers back and see the beauty that's deep inside, and I already see that in you. So thank you. I'm excited to hear more.
SPEAKER_02Yes, so just a quick I mean, I think that we can always talk about things and it can go on forever because all these little details matter, but at the same time, I want to get to the point, right? So I'm gonna do a quick for the audience purpose to know me a little bit of kind of what I went through. Is that okay?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's perfect.
SPEAKER_02So my childhood looked kind of like this where we lost our home twice, we were homeless for a period of time. There was food scarcity, there was religious trauma, you know, and there was a period of time where we didn't have electricity, and life was very uncertain growing up as far as where we were going to be, where we were headed, and how we were gonna survive the next day, let alone trying to survive childhood of going to school or trying to have relationships and all of that, and so that is kind of the chaos that I started with, on top of my dad could never keep a job, and there was a lot of financial insecurities, as you already kind of could guess on that, but then but then he was also physically and verbally and sexually abusive, and so trying to navigate not knowing what was going to happen next, on top of the abuse that I was experiencing on top of that, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean it's it's hard enough to deal with those things that you just mentioned, minus the abuse, right? So living in a space where you have zero control over buying the food, earning the money to pay for the food, paying the mortgage, like all of those things that like we're supposed to trust our parents to be able to figure out and manage. But it still feels like something that's you're out of control with, but you have to like deal with. Yeah. As a child, that must have been like it must have felt like everything was always so uncertain and up in the air, and like there was no like stability, and like oh, this is where we are, this is our home.
SPEAKER_02This is and if you did bring it up or if you did ask questions, it was pushed to the side or blamed on you, or whatever. And so you then you just learn to shut up and you just don't talk about it. And on top of that, I played high competitive soccer. I was really competitive in soccer, and that was viewed as like how I was gonna go to college, and so it really was like a job. And so, on top of all of that, I had this high demand, not only religion that I want to talk about in a minute, but then also this I had to, I had to go to soccer practice. Like I missed out on a childhood, in my opinion, even more because it was I was in a club, we're spending all of our money, like any extra money that we did have was spent on club fees, uniforms, whatever. And I also come from, I didn't mention a family of seven. So I'm the middle child in this family dynamic of seven, and so there was a financial burden in my on an unconscious, subconscious way of like I had a a weight that like I had to perform. I had to go to soccer practice because we're also using any money that we do have or don't have, but somehow have. Do you know what I mean? Somehow it figured it out, and I need to make sure that I perform on the field and do well because I have to do this thing. This is we're putting all of this these eggs in my basket to get me to the next level.
SPEAKER_00And if I don't perform, then I'm wasting the money that we don't have on something that I'm doing. Yes, yes, exactly. That's a lot for a child. It is, I mean, you know, taking that those steps forward now. You're a mother and you have your own children, like that burden that you felt, like it's hard to imagine putting that on your own children when you hear it. Like I'm listening to you right now, and I like that would be so that would I dunno, it just feels so hard to put that those kind of burdens on kids because it's not your fault. No, and you just want to play soccer, and yeah, they put you in soccer, but it came with like expectation, probably, too.
SPEAKER_02Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. And you know, I missed out on on dances or I missed out on social events, and I mean I already was missing out on things because of my family's like we need to look a certain way. And so, you know, friends wouldn't come over this or that, but when there was external things that I could go to socially, it was soccer practice always was the priority. Soccer games, you know, tournaments was always the priority, and so even more I was just like, but I do have to say soccer was an outlet for me, you know, and I it was it was the thing that was stable in my life, and so I do have to say I I'm really grateful for it, and I of course don't regret playing soccer, like I love it, I still love it, you know, but it definitely was something that I feel like was heavy during that time.
SPEAKER_00It's kind of like one of those things that helped you feel grounded because you had something that it was stable in your life when everything else kind of felt chaotic, but then you had to look like it wasn't chaotic, you had to look like yeah we're you know, we're this certain way. We look this certain way, but inside you feel like a fraud almost because you know what's really going on.
SPEAKER_02110%. Which then leads me into the religion that I was brought up in. It was very important for us to look look a certain way, and so we would go to church, and you know, all of our hairs were perfect, you know, we were dressed a certain way, and you know, it was like my maiden name is Snyder, and it was like the Snyders. So, even more, it was like my parents would show up at church a certain way, and we were not allowed to talk about, I was not allowed to disclose anything that was going on, or else we would pay for it later. And so it was a I just got really good at performing, you know. I got really good at smiling and pretending like everything was fine when actually at home everything was burning down. You know what I mean? Like that's that's what I got really good at was smiling, and I do have to say that with this high demand religion that I was in, I just feel like there's good. I think that we can say that there's good and bad, and that two things can exist at once. And for me, I am grateful because that also grounded me. There was things in that religion that grounded me in being like optimistic and feeling like there's a future and there's things. And on the same note, on the other side of it, you know, it could it was a little bit negative in that I was raised on, you know, everything's on a spectrum, and there's you know, the Molly side, and then you know, the Jack Mormon side, and on this side, we were very to the T, you know, straight-laced LDS members, and that can be really difficult navigating because in my mind, the things that I endured, I was like, Well, I'm chosen. Well, Jesus loves me, God loves me the most. So instead of God loves me the most, so I'm going through these really hard things. God knows that I can handle and I'm capable of these traumatic, horrific events that are happening, but I'm chosen to go through that. I'm chosen. Jesus' atonement is what's going to save me and love that. Again, this can be positive, but it also can be manipulated in a way where you become super optimistic and super over here being like, Well, this is all good. I can't complain. I can't complain because I'm this chosen child that like and I'm so blessed because I'm going through these horrific things because God knows that I can do it, that I can go through it. So it's this warped way of thinking, and then you don't deal with it because but that's the missing piece.
SPEAKER_00Yes, absolutely, absolutely, and it's almost like it sounds that it was almost weaponized. Oh instead of it being like wholesome and what what I think truly it was created to be, it sounds like it was almost like weaponized, like well, if like manipulate like the using the the certain verbiage or the words, but manipulated it to suit their comfort, their need, and what they wanted to have happen instead of letting it be like, Well, what is God's will? What is yeah, what is truly the purpose of saying this or saying that or doing this or doing that or the optimism? Because I'm an eternally optimistic person myself, but I can see how if somebody's abusing you, but then manipulating you and saying, Well, you know, it's gonna all be okay, it's gonna all work out, you don't need to worry about the shove it under the rug, the trauma that's gonna be.
SPEAKER_02Let's just do this cycle again. Yeah, just shove it under the rug. It's Jesus loves you, the atonement's real, and just don't deal with it. Because it's better not to deal with it. Like, let's just not deal with what's going on, and let's just keep pretending that everything's okay. Yeah, you know?
SPEAKER_00That's rough.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was. So if you don't mind, I think that it would be good to there's some statistics here that I found really interesting. It says children experiencing housing instability are significantly more likely to develop, to face developmental delays, chronic stress, and behavioral problems. ACE, adverse childhood experiences, having four or more ACEs, including financial hardship, abuse, and instability, increase the risk of depression, heart disease, and early death affecting one in six adults in the US today. That's that's a lot. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. And so I think that also I just want to shout out that you're not alone. Like, there's a lot of people that have experienced this, and I don't sit here and look at myself and go, Well, I'm the only one. Like, woe is me. No, there's a lot of suffering adults right now that has gone through some traumatic events, and yeah, and I think that's like when we've been abused, we almost feel shame, like it was our fault.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely, we were were to blame or we should have done something to stop it, or whatever. Yeah, but I think that that's I don't know where it comes from really. Maybe society, maybe the people who don't understand really the the depth of abuse, especially psychological abuse, oh yes, don't realize like it affects every aspect of your life when somebody's constantly telling you you're this, you're that, you're you're a horrible person, or if you don't do things X, Y, and Z this way, this exact way, you're going to hell, or whatever it is. Like, I think that there's like these things that happen that make somebody who's the victim of abuse feel like I can't talk about this because it's too taboo. Oh, absolutely. And so that's another reason why we do this is because I want people to know that it doesn't matter whether you've been addicted to drugs or alcohol or or you've been sexually abused or you've been emotionally abused. Like it's all detrimental to your your psyche and all of it well, body, mind, everything. Yeah, it's you know, everything and your spirit too. Your soul is your spirit absolutely hurts your spirit to have somebody constantly tell you that you're not what you thought you were, or not what you believe yourself to be, or not even just telling you, but be treating you in such a way.
SPEAKER_02You know, it might not even be words, but it's the way that they treat you. And I mean, that's energy. That's you can feel when you walk into a room and it's like, who do you think you are? Why why are you here? Or I hate you, or you know, you can feel that energy, and you don't have to hear words.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, or we just have to say this, and so now you get to pay the price because you didn't stay in line with what we told you you had to do. Yep, exactly.
SPEAKER_02So, moving on with like kind of like my story, I would like to talk about my dad a little bit more and the abuse that that we suffered. And I know that I already talked about that he was verbally and physically and sexually and spiritually. He would use going back, he would use the priesthood and he would use Jesus to manipulate us to forgive him. And so it would be this, it would, this is a very common scene in our family was my dad would do something horrific, and verbally the whole house was scared or physically harm one of the children, and we would call it out, and then there would be a time where it started to de-escalate, and we would gather as a family in a family circle, and then it was time to pray and ask Jesus for forgiveness, and ask us to pray and ask for us to be able to forgive him. And so Jesus, and again, the priesthood was used to manipulate, and he was the father, he was the priesthood holder, and there was some energy or there's some vibe about like I can get away with this because I'm the father, I'm the head of the household. And so this was a a loop. This was this was something that I dealt with. I mean, it's a cycle, right? Abuse is a cycle, and and this is something that the physical and the verbal and and spiritual was a constant thing. For me, the sexual, and I'm gonna just speak to me, started when I was about 15. Well, I was aware of it when I was about 15. And so soccer practice, I would come home and I had like spanks under my shorts, you know, and I had my sports bra on, and we were, I was told that, you know, we had our household duties, and bleach at that time was a must in our family cleaning supply system. And so I would take off my shirt, I would take off my shorts, and I would just be in my Spanx and my sports bra, and I would get my cleaning done so then I could shower everything off, right? And I started noticing my dad looking at me at that time, and this is before I even had really crushes on boys. And so my first kind of awareness to somebody is looking at me, I feel like I'm naked, even though I'm not, I feel really uncomfortable was with my dad. My dad looked at me and and it became a point that I was like, I don't care if bleach gets on my shirt, I'm keeping my shirt on. I there was a psychological awareness, a consciousness that I was aware that something was inappropriate, something was bad. And this escalated to a point where I would sleep, I'd go to sleep, and I would see my dad. I would wake up to my dad being in the doorway of my room, okay? And I would just sit there and you just feel darkness, and I would crawl up in a ball and I just would like pray that like he would just go away, which then led me to having deeper feelings. Is it okay to say big words? Yeah, is it okay to say big words? To me, feeling like I was going to be raped. And at that time, it felt like I was going to be raped. So I wrote a letter to my mom at the time and expressed what I was feeling. And my mom wasn't totally the safest person to talk to. So I wrote a letter and I left it in her bathroom. And after a day or two, I went to go see like, did the letter get read? Did it get moved? And it was ripped up and it was in the trash. And so I was like, it's not safe to talk about this. We're not gonna talk about this, okay? I can't bring this up. Somebody else, and for the benefit of the audience, I'm not gonna say who in this thing, but it got brought up verbally in a conversation, and immediately I got pointed out and was yelled and ridiculed for being the problem, and that it was on me. And it was it was a screaming match that made me go, Holy crap, we really are not gonna talk about this. It I was scared, so scared in that moment, even though I knew what I knew was happening. I was like, we're just not gonna talk about this. So I shut down and I'm like, I can address the leering, but these deeper feelings of I feel like this rape is happening, I feel like something else is bigger and a more problem. I shut that down completely. This matters because I'm gonna get to that point in a in a little bit, if you don't mind. But I go on and around seven, we have now moved multiple times, and I had multiple bishops that I went to that asked I asked for help for the physical verbal kind of abuse, kind of I did my best to explain we're not safe, we need help. And I was told that if my dad doesn't come in and confess about his sins, then it doesn't matter. Like what I had to say had no weight and bared no weight in getting the help that I needed. And I don't know if that's a lack of education, I don't know if that's a lack of at that time, because this was years ago, right, at this point, but I went to like three different bishops asking, pleading for help, and it was always a you're a little girl, you're dramatic. You have, you know, like I was pushed aside, I was dismissed. And nobody wanted to deal with it, you know what I mean? And you know, this is a the space that I'm supposed to feel the safest, and going to different schools and having no security in friends, having no real foundation in the school system, and I hated school. I mean, right there with the statistics of being delayed, I definitely was I don't even know how I made it through. Well, I do. I cheated, let's be honest. I do know just adaptation. You adapted to your circumstances, circumstances, and I got through that crap.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, but like as an adult now, and thinking back about like it weighs so heavy on a child's mind because they don't understand. You don't have the full concept of life, you don't have the full concept of experiences that help you to like understand why people do what they do, or or because sometimes we don't understand. Like, I don't know, there's certain stories that I hear, like kind of like this, where I don't know if I'll ever understand somebody's thought processes while they're they're doing certain types of abuse. Like other types of abuse, you can kind of see like maybe where it comes from or like how they got there. Again, not making any excuses or making it okay, but no, I think sometimes if we can understand, it kind of helps us to process and to cope with and to work through certain things if we can maybe pinpoint like what happened to that person's life that made them think that this was okay. Again, not not giving any free passes to the abuse. But I think it's important to try to understand because I think that it's okay to be empathetic to somebody that's completely messed up in their own head because of their life experiences, and like I have a heart for that because I I want everybody to be whole, even the horrible people that have done awful things. Sure. I want nothing but for them to realize what they've done and then try to make that change to be better because being healed on either side of it is a beautiful thing, absolutely, and starts with accountability, and I think that that's in my own perspective.
SPEAKER_02I think that that also was a problem because I was pretty aware of things and I really loved self-help books at that time. I mean, I was pretty mature for my age and like self-aware to the things that are going on. And as I'm getting older, so I put myself in therapy. I went and I was I finally went to the bishop at 17 and I was like, if nobody's gonna do anything, at least put me in therapy. Like, I need some mental, like I need help. And so I went through an LDS therapy. There, whatever. And that was, I think that helped catapult me into taking accountability and responsibility at a young age for myself and being like, no, I'm choosing right here, right now, that I'm I'm not going to continue this cycle, that I can tell how messed up this is, and I need help so that I don't end up going down a path that I don't want to go on. But as I'm getting older and as I'm as I'm like realizing some things that are going on, I sit here and I start going, I hear my dad's stories of how he was raised, and even my mom, how she was raised. And I think about the high-demand religion. I think about where each of them come from and what they've said, and I'm like, oh, I can understand why they're like this, or I can understand this. And so for me, it came at a hindrance because for years I was like, I do have so much empathy. I do have so much sympathy. I do understand. Like I look at my mom and I'm like, you had seven children going through all of these hardships. Like I can understand, and as a mom now, have empathy and sympathy for how exhausted you were, how you didn't have a job, you didn't have education, you thought you were doing what was best, your parents gave you advice, and you did what you thought was right, but also it wasn't the best advice, and it wasn't the best circumstances for the children, and it's paid a price.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But I can give room for that, right? And I think that that is really important to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_00You said earlier, both can be true.
SPEAKER_02Both can be true.
SPEAKER_00It can be true that they've had these traumatic experiences, and also that they're doing it wrong, they're doing some things wrong. And I think that everybody does something wrong. Like I know I was never a perfect parent, still not, I still have room to grow, but I'm willing to grow. Yes. And I'm willing to admit that I made mistakes, and I'm willing to say, you know what, I did that wrong, and I'm really sorry, but I'm gonna work really hard to not do it wrong anymore in the future.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. And I think that that's key. Yeah, that you have to be willing to sit there and take that first step and acknowledgement to say, I'm not perfect, and that's absolutely okay. What am I going to help? What am I gonna do to help myself in this position? What if what can I control? What can I do? And what am I willing to do to make those steps to mitigate with your children or to get yourself out of a bad situation or what have you.
SPEAKER_00Or to stop caring what other people think and just do what's best for my children, no matter what the outside world thinks it looks like. Yep. Because I think that's a big thing that it sounds like in your family was it's more about the image than protecting the children and doing the right thing because we don't want people to think that we are this way, even though we are. Yep. So we're gonna put on this big show that we got it all together and everything's peachy keen, and that you know, look at look, see, look, they're all falling in line, they're doing what they're told. Like, yeah, look how beautiful and perfect this little family is, you know.
SPEAKER_02Until we all became adults, and then it was alarming to see maybe there was problems. You know what I mean? Yeah. If I can take a second, I would like to say some more statistics. Is that okay? Okay, so prevalence in childhood sexual abuse is one in four girls, and one in six boys will be sexually abused before 18. The total U.S. survivors, an estimate of 42 million survivors of childhood sexual abuse exists in America today. Perpetrators, approximately 90% of child sexual abuse is committed by someone known by the trusted and trusted by the child. 34% are family members. Reporting rates, only 12% of children in child sexual abuse cases are ever reported to authorities. Verbal abuse impact. Research published in 2025 confirmed that childhood verbal abuse causing similar long-term mental health damage as physical abuse. The effects are equally real and lasting. And then Freud and the seduction theory in 1896, Freud concluded that all of his 18 of his hysterical patients had been sexually abused as children. He was pressured to retract this. He then reframed their real memories as fantasy, setting the stage for a century of survivors not being believed. Wow. Which is nuts. I mean, 1896. So this is a statistic that I read in a book, and I'll I'll get to that in a second, that made me stop in my tracks and go, oh my gosh. There has been a knowledge and awareness to how impactful sexual abuse is and how prevalent it is for almost 150 years. And in this point, yes, and that women are seen as hysterical when they go through this and are, you know, not believed, and you're just a crazy lady on hormones or you're gonna have issues, blah blah blah blah blah, but it's like no. We're not all just crazy, we've had traumatic experiences. Yeah, you know what I mean? Which really there's a reason.
SPEAKER_00And I I thought that it was interesting when you when sexual abuse and psychological abuse are like like the trauma that you endure through both of those are very similar. Like you don't even have to be sexually abused to feel the depth of the trauma. Yep. Which is crazy because in my mind I would think sexual abuse would rank higher than psychological abuse.
SPEAKER_02I think that it's important to just be like any abuse is abuse.
SPEAKER_00Of course.
SPEAKER_02Any of this is again, it goes back to the mind and the soul and the and the body and how it affects your existence as a human.
SPEAKER_00When you're growing up, you're supposed to trust your parents. Your tr parents are supposed to protect you from these things happening to you. They're not supposed to be the perpetrators of it. They're supposed to protect us from it. And like as a child, I think there's a certain level that we we know that without even being told that we know it. Like, well, our parents are supposed to protect us. Yes. And so when they can't or they don't or they choose not to, or they yeah, or they choose to like pretend it's not happening, then it makes us feel like, well, what did I what did I do wrong to deserve this? And why is this happening to me?
SPEAKER_02I'm chosen. God loves me, and I'm chosen. You know what I mean? I'm just saying there's a lot of different thought processes that you can.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I mean if you weaponize religion, yes, because that's I think that's a weaponization of religion because that was never that was never part of like when he said that it he didn't wasn't talking about like, oh, well, I'm gonna especially choose you to be sexually molested so that you can have that experience and yeah, and it's just gonna make you a better person. I don't think it happens like that. I think that because we're all have we all have agency to do or not do certain things. Absolutely. It's not like it's written in stone and it has to happen. Right. Because I don't believe that. I do believe that we can use our trials to like you've you've done and like everyone you're doing has done to propel us into a better place, and we can use that perspective that we've gained from this trauma traumatic experience to reshape the way that we see the world and to really, really, really help us to just find this beautiful new life. Because yes, these traumatic things happened, but I get to now retrain my brain to not be scared of that and not to be worried about that and not to like have that be part of my forever, other than a place for me to have a different perspective when I meet and approach and learn about people who have been through similar things. Because we again, like you said, all of that trauma and abuse is very heavy and very hard. But the beautiful thing is we can all heal from it. Yeah, we can all better our state by deciding look, I'm gonna do the work and process and work through this, and I'm not gonna let this pull me down the rest of my life like an anchor. I'm gonna let it be the thing that pulls me up and takes me to that next great level that I'm seeking in my life because there is a plan and a purpose for us. And if you don't weaponize religion, you can find those beautiful things, and you can get there through. Like for me, it was when I partnered with God on healing, I was able to heal exponentially quicker rather than when I was doing it by myself. And for me, forgiveness was that key that turned the corner for me, and that was hard to get there, but when I was ready and I did it, everything changed and I could see this beautiful new world opening up for me. Sure. And I look at my life now and my relationships now with my husband and my children and and my family and the people that are around me that are my group and my tribe. And I feel so grateful that I could have the perspective that I have to get me to a place where I can just absolutely love a beautiful life that I've created for myself.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Amen to that. That I mean, and scene.
SPEAKER_00No, but like I really it's perfectly like I've I met you just like a month ago, I feel like. Yeah, but we've gotten so close because I crave deep connection with people. I'm not good at like surface relationships. It's just like okay, whatever. Yeah, I like when I can get deep with somebody and we can just talk about our experiences and talk about the wins in life and talk about like, oh, you were there and this is where you are. Like, I just I think it's so beautiful to see this beautiful woman that you are today, despite what has happened to you in your past. Yes, or maybe, or maybe as a result of doing all the work because of what happened to you. And I don't think that that had to happen for you to become this beautiful woman, but I think that you have been what's the word? It'll come to me. You you have taken what has happened to you and and used it to better yourself instead of used it to be a victim the rest of your life because there's people that go the opposite way. Absolutely traumatic circumstances affect us differently, and I'm fully aware of that. But I also fully believe that if we truly, truly want to be better and to heal, that no matter what we've been through, it's possi it's possible. Yeah. And for me, that was through God. Totally. Just relying on God to help me know next steps so that I can heal and that I can share the love that I have in my heart and the encouragement that I have for others in my heart so that other people will feel inspired to go, you know what? I do want to be better. I do want my life to look different than it does. I do want to stop feeling this pain and angst and anger and hurt every single day to the depth of my soul.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00I do want to be free from all of this. Yeah. And that is like the big, big goal, right? Like, is for all of us to to get to a place where we feel like we have reached that point where we can live our best life from this point forward.
SPEAKER_02Agreed. 110%. I agree. And I think that that takes me to thinking about my 20s, is I so I ended up serving, I ended up serving a mission for the church and coming home and was pressured to get married really quick, which then I got pregnant within six months. And instead of dealing with trauma and dealing with what I needed to deal with, just quickly moved on with life. Here's the checklist. Here's the checklist, here's the things that I need to do and and what have you. And then we had an opportunity, we were in Arizona, and then we had an opportunity to move to Idaho. And before we moved to Idaho, my it was my dad, my mom, and I, and I had an 18-month-old son at that time, and my dad tickled my son inside the diaper inappropriately. And I went into freeze mode, my body went into freeze, and my mom yelled at him. And it was in that moment that everything came back, and I was like, wait a second. This is I now have a child, and my own brain started going in. So we get to Idaho, I go to therapy, and that's when I start putting words to learning and what happened to me and what I experienced and what have you. Okay, so I do therapy in 2018, 2019. I do going back to like there's a lot of different ways to heal, right? And so I've done in my 20s, was really kind of my healing era. And and don't get me wrong, healing goes on for the rest of your life. But I really was able to hyperfocus and without knowing, really hyper-focus and and to be like, okay, I need a purge. And we were away from our family units, my husband and I, that we were able to make decisions on what do we believe without feeling the pressure of, did you go to church today? Well, what did you learn? Well, what do you think? You know what I mean? And also be able to get away from family units in the toxic cycles and be able to be like, okay, our nervous systems were able to breathe. We were able to start working through some of these things. And so I wrote a letter to my dad and I was like, I know that you did this. I don't want a relationship with you. And then with my mom, I started to set boundaries where I was like, I still wanted a relationship with her because I think every girl wants a relationship with her mom. And I really wanted a relationship with my mom. And I was like, okay, my basic boundary was just when you come and visit us, don't take pictures of my children and send them to him. Because I don't see his life, I don't want to know about him. But when you send pictures of my children to him, you're allowing him to have be involved and be in my space, and I don't want him in my space. Now, my mom, that was like the bare minimum what I asked. She went ahead and in her own cycle, this is where empathy can come in, and I can have empathy and sympathy for this for my mom. Is that I caught her doing that multiple times. Now, I have a son, I have a son, and then I'm pregnant with my daughter, and something hits within me when I'm pregnant with my daughter that like this is deeper than this is deeper. Yeah, you know, yeah, and so I had this huge conversation with mom. Do not send pictures of my children to my father. This happened to me, and I had a verbal conversation. Well, I have my child, my my daughter, and my mom, I invited my mom, and she came at the very last moment, like an hour after I had pushed out my baby. And in that time, literally, she takes a picture of my daughter and sends it to my dad. And I find this out as she had left her phone open to his text messages, and I had come out to the kitchen and she was somewhere else, and I'm seeing all these pictures that was sent to my dad of my children and of my daughter that was just born. I'm like not even a day postpartum, two days postpartum, three days postpartum, and I'm sitting here going, the betrayal.
SPEAKER_00Because it was not like you hoped she understood that. You were mom.
SPEAKER_02This happened. You cannot deny, like you can deny it. And here's the thing about the brain, too, right? Our brain is wired to keep us alive. And I really, really, really understand this on a deep level of like you, your brain wants to protect you. And so, of course, if you're finding out or you're hearing these really hard things that your partner, your husband, is did all these hard things and horrible things, you don't want to believe it. I didn't want to believe. I didn't want to believe my childhood, and yet the only way through it was you had to believe it.
SPEAKER_00We had to believe it and go through it.
SPEAKER_02And so so I'm gonna skip ahead. And during I I made I made boundaries with my mom, and then eventually it became during that time, it became a very clear and evident to me that it was I am a mother of three beautiful children, and now I need you cannot, you can't do the simp to me, the simplest of things and respect this boundary. You don't get to be in my life. You can go to therapy, you can do your things, and while you're doing that and I'm doing this, if we can come together and have a mediator of a therapist to help nick like help us figure out what our relationship could look like, well, then I'm all open to having a relationship. But until you do the work that you need to do to heal to find respect for me, yeah, the as a bit, then I can't. I'm now I am now a mother and I have to do my mother diligence and I have to I have to protect them.
SPEAKER_00And if you're not gonna be a grandma that's going to do that, well, I have to be the mother that is definitely going to do that, no matter what, even though even if it looks like you're not in our lives because of yeah, because you can't you can't manage to respect the boundaries that I've created for you. I love you, mom, and that will never change. However, I now have to protect my children from what happened to me. This is bigger happening to them because you already saw with your oldest that it was right there, ready to happen.
SPEAKER_02Ready to happen. So that happens. Cody and I had a couple of years in Idaho after that. We really were able to like process it. We get the opportunity in December 2024 to move to St. George, and we were like, let's leave all that drama there. We thought, woohoohoo, we did it, we're making it like a new era, we're getting away from all this, and like it's all paying off. Healing, healing, we're feeling whole, everything's good. Even the couple of people that we do have a relationship, like family members that we still have, you know, contact with and friends were like, you're not allowed to talk about these things in this new home. You know, we really were like, we're done. Well, December, we go through December. I'm pregnant. We find out I'm pregnant with my fifth child, and April comes around. So four months later, I'm four months pregnant, and April comes around, and everything's been happy days. And it's my daughter's fourth birthday that we're going to celebrate. And as a flirty couple does, life has been good. We decide to, you know, go to the bedroom. And as my husband gets close to me, all of a sudden, like I started feeling, which I had never experienced before, this deep darkness again. Well, except with my dad. Yeah. But I started feeling this like awful feeling, and I was like, what is happening? What is happening? And I just like pushed it away. And then my husband got closer to me and was like more kind of on top. And all of a sudden, all I could see was my dad. And all of a sudden, I'm having this experience that was a visceral. I I mean, the only words that I can explain is like a panic attack, visceral PTSD experience that I've never experienced before, where all of the sudden my brain and my consciousness is flooded with all of these memories, these experiences that I in fact was raped, that I in fact was touched. So I want to go back to what you were kind of saying earlier about how our brain works and stuff. And all of this time as a child, I defended my dad. As a teen and as a young adult, I defended my dad because I wanted so desperately to be believed that if this fish was this big, you know, we always, you know, that metaphor of like, you know, these fishermen go and be like, I've, you know, got this big fish, but really the fish was this big. Well, the reality was I would start talking after I learned about leering and how important, like that that is a real thing and that is sexual abuse in itself. You know, I started trying to speak my truth. And I, even though the fish was probably this big, I belittled it just because I was so desperate to be believed by loved ones, by people that were in cahoots and and around me and that would listen. I I made my fish so small that I was like, okay, he lured at me, but he never touched me, but he never touched me, but he never touched me. And I think two things happened. I was a survivor, and my brain went back to 15-year-old Lindy that didn't, couldn't talk about it because it you can't. And so I, my brain was saying, this is not safe to talk about, we're not gonna talk about. But then two, I just wanted to be believed and heard that this learning is important because after being pushed away by bishops, by other people that were within the family, being told, yeah, that you know, you have no proof. Leering's not that big of a deal. You know, you can't prove that sexual looking at somebody sexually is not a big deal, you know. Then you just want to believe, so you just oh, you know, this is my fish. And then all of a sudden that night the reality became this is the truth, this is the fullness of this stupid ass fish, excuse me, and the reality of no, he he did rape me and he did touch me, and how the brain works. And so I want to back up really quick too, and just say, I was pregnant, and this is my last pregnancy, as far as you know, I'm I'm feeling done. And I was really, really bent on sitting there and giving myself affirmations to be like, I'm safe in my body, I'm safe in this house, I'm safe with my husband, I'm safe, I'm doing stretches, I'm doing all these things to really cultivate a safe awareness and be like, I can birth this baby beautifully and have this dream birth, if you will.
SPEAKER_00Amazing experience.
SPEAKER_02An amazing experience, which I've had home births and and I've had amazing experiences, but I really wanted like no, I'm allowed to be the best. Yes, and I'm in touch with my body. I'm not just able to birth this baby, but I'm completely inside myself, and so I think that my Psychosis, my you know, consciousness was like, Oh, you're safe now. You're good, you're good in your body. Well, let me drop this one on you. There's something you might have forgot about. So let me bring it up right now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And also the timing of it. Also, the timing of it being that my fourth, my well, my fourth daughter, but her fourth birthday was actually really relevant too. In when I started going, so I went back to therapy. I have this horrific experience. And I wish my husband was here. Not really, but also I would love for him to speak to this because I he held the space that he never in a million years thought that he would have to hold for me. As I am this hysterical person that you read statistics about, that you see in movies, that you sit there and you're like, I'm screaming and I'm confused, and I'm going through this outer body, inner body experience where I don't want to be in my body because I don't want to feel what I'm feeling. I don't want to experience the reality of the pain that I've gone through. And also while I'm in my body, I just want to. Can I be explicit? How much do you want to know? How much can I talk about? Whatever you whatever you want to say. I I mean, I just hope that anybody else out there, I'm sure, feels like this, but you just want to take a knife and rip your private parts. You just feel so unclean. I was taking a shower and the water was as hot as possible, and I just wanted it to burn everything away. I didn't want to be in my body. I didn't want to think about it. And I was like literally screaming. And I I don't hit, I'm not a physical person because physical abuse is like, you know, scary. And so I'm not a physical person, but I was punching the walls of a shower, being like, what the f did you do to me? Like, why, why, why am I feeling this? And why am I just feeling this now at 31? Now I'm 31 and I'm now having awareness to the full effect that this person had over me. And having to feel, and I'm like, I am taken back to memories of when I was 16, 17, and I would sit on the toilet and I would have these weirdo moments where again I want to take a knife and just cut the insides out of me. You feel so impure and volatile and sick that you don't want to be in your body that you just like just get it out. Just get it out. You feel so unclean and so disgusting that it's like, and so now I'm having these moments where I'm thinking back and I'm going here and I'm thinking this, and I'm like, and my husband's just sitting there, like, are you okay? Are you okay? How can I help you? I want to go kill that man. I already wanted to kill that man, but like, how do I help you? How do I navigate this? And it was a horrific night. I couldn't sleep. And for the next couple nights and the next couple weeks, I couldn't sleep. I couldn't be alone in the bedroom. I couldn't be alone. I didn't want to sleep in the bedroom. I didn't want to sleep in our bed. And it wasn't because of him, it was because of my father, right? And so it's because this new awareness to it actually helped that you had suppressed to survive. Absolutely, absolutely. And so I, my husband, you know, I'm sitting here and I feel crazy. I feel absolutely crazy because for so long I was like, well, the fish was this big and he never touched me. He never touched me. And then to be like, that was a lie. I was telling myself a lie, and now who's gonna believe me now? Nobody believed me then.
SPEAKER_00They're really not gonna believe me.
SPEAKER_02And now they're not gonna believe me now. And then you add religion on that, and and over the years, my husband, it's not, it's not a new thing, but my husband and I have stepped away from this church that we went to, and my father has held up the temple, this temple recommend over our heads and been like, Well, I'm telling the truth because I have a temple recommend, I'm worthy. She's not going to the temple, she's not worthy. So I'm having an awareness. I am being told that some of these things from family members that I'm in contact with, being like, Yeah, this conversation's being had, you know, that you are a sinner, you're off the path, you're crazy. And so I'm sitting here going, okay, this is even bigger than what I thought it was. I feel insane. What am I going to do? And of course I need, I knew, and I already have a love for therapy, right? And so it was finding the right therapist, which let me just shout out this. If you need a therapist, call them and ask for a 15-minute consultation and find the right therapist because it really does matter to find the right person that is going to help you through this process. And it took me feel comfortable sharing these deep dark things with. Yep, yep, yep, yep. And then my husband, I really have a hard time reaching out and asking for help. And my husband got me in touch with Dove, our local women's organization, and that has was extremely helpful and beneficial. And then trying to think if there's anything else that I wanted to say about that, but now I'm trying to process this big thing, and I'm feeling like unbelievable. Oh, I did. So I also, in the meantime, was like, I need to prove. I need to prove. I need to prove that I'm not a liar. Yeah. That I am not a horrible person, and that I'm not just trying to do this to hurt somebody. Like, I'm not trying to ruin, he's kind of done this himself. Like he's ruined he's his own problem. It's not a good thing.
SPEAKER_00Isn't like on you? No. Like you well, he made the choices, so he must be okay with it being out there since he was so bold to make those choices. So I I always that's one thing I always tell people like, look, you might have like made the fish small because that's what you did to cope when you were living under that roof and in that home and in that environment, but now the fish can be the size that it was.
SPEAKER_02That it actually is.
SPEAKER_00And now that it actually is. If there's consequences or detriment to this person that did these things, that's a consequence of the choices. It's not a consequence of you saying it out loud, it's a consequence of the choices that were made a long time ago. Absolutely. We had no control over or no like consent to.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Oh, absolutely, I absolutely did not and have consent. And and yeah. So I reached out to our local lie detector guy, and I called him, and I was like, I want to take a lie detector test. And he was like, I'm next cop, like, what's going on? Like, how can I help you? And I'm like, I want to take a lie detector test. This is what's going on, and I need to prove and and vindicate myself that I'm telling the truth. And in that conversation, one shout out to him because he was amazing. He validated me and he was like, This is not uncommon. You have to know that, like, as a when I was an active cop, like situations like you, because I feel like, how did I not know? I feel like, how did I how did my brain keep this from me for so long? I feel like, how did I not know survival that this thing, this huge thing happened to me? And yes, but in that you feel hysterical, you really do, and it's it's so confusing and conflicting that I was like, I want to do a lie detector test, I want to prove, I want to know, I want to MRI, I want to do anything to prove like brain damage, you know, whatever I can do to prove that I did suffer and I did experience this thing. And this this gentleman was like, I would never, I would never do a lie detector test on a victim. Never. Because you have to remember, you have to the the the way that it works, it would not end well for me. And so he was like, I would like to do a lie detector test on your dad because that's where we're gonna find the evidence, that's where it's going to be the most beneficial. And so he was like, if you really want to do it, you need to go do like hip hypnotherapy and try to remember everything. So cut into, I was like, all right, bet I'm on it. I'm going back to therapy. I will do what it takes to to validate and to vindicate myself. You just wanted to be believed. I just want to be believed, like that mattered so much to me. And I wanted to believe myself. Like, there's, you know, I I wanted to believe myself.
SPEAKER_00Yes, that when it came up, it was like shocking. Sound like like completely shocking. Yes. But also like, okay, well, I want to make sure I want to validate even for myself that this really happened because it was suppressed for so long, it feels like it didn't happen. But then deep down in my heart of hearts, I know it really did happen, but it's like this internal conflict, right? Like how did I forget? How did I not remember? This is such a big, huge traumatic thing. How come it was pushed down or pushed out or hidden behind the curtain or whatever, you know, whatever you want to say?
SPEAKER_02I can't even that just gets me so riled because like that's that's I also defended him for so long.
SPEAKER_00You know, is that survival too?
SPEAKER_02It is, it is, it is. So, so I go to EMD, EMDR therapy, I found a therapist, and I worked through it. So I did three months of two days a week. I would go two days a week of doing this EMDR therapy. So, really quick, before I get into that, I have some more statistics. Can I read them really quick? So, delayed disclosure. Studies show the average time between childhood sexual abuse and disclosure is over 20 years. Many survivor survivors carry the full weight for decades before naming it. Survive survivors not believed when people disclose sexual abuse, disbelief is one of the most common responses and one of the primary reasons healing is delayed. Body-based memory. Trauma is stored in the body and nervous system, somatic responses like panic attacks during intimacy are recognized as trauma responses, not fabrication, and EMDR effectiveness. EMDR is recognized by the WHO, H W H O and APA, as one of the most effective treatments for PTSD and sexual trauma. So I do this EMDR therapy, which is really intense for three months, two times a week, because I'm like, I've got to get the I'm pregnant. I'm gonna have a baby, and I need this to go I need this to be out of my body.
SPEAKER_00And you can be a fully present mother. Yes, absolutely in your own body and and loving every bit of yourself again. Yes, and not wanting to cut your parts out because of the trauma and the hurt and the pain. Because I like you say that I don't I've never been sexually abused like that, and so I don't like I don't understand that connection, but I can see how that would feel because it's like, well, if I just get rid of that, it's like people who are who are sometimes people gain a lot of weight because they're like, well, if I'm a big heavy person, then I won't be desirable after abuse, right? So like like it's like you get change things because that's all you know to do to try to protect yourself from a predator that's trying to do things or or somebody else that might look at you a certain way or or think of you a certain way.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely, 110%. And sometimes your body does that subconsciously without you even knowing. Yeah, because I mean that's that's part of my story is like survival, you know. So beautiful, wonderful. I do EMDR therapy, and while I'm doing it, memories obviously come back. My therapist is able to work through me and like with me, and even there was times where I was like, Am I crazy? This can't be working. She was like, Lindy, like this EMDR, like I would go in and like literally be on the verge of a panic attack at a they always ask like from zero to ten, how are you feeling about this topic or whatever we're gonna work on? And as I was talking about what I wanted to work on, I'd be like at a like nine, ten, shaking, like hyperventilating, like we need to do the work right now because this is I'm gonna seize over. And by the end of the session, most of the time, I would get to a point of four or below, sometimes even like one or zero. And so one, that's insane. Two, it that even like can feel like, well, how is this real if I'm going from panic and then an hour of therapy, being able to be like, well, I'm you have to do that eh. Feeling better about it already. I'm okay, you know. I I guess it's not that bad, but it is. And she was like, No, like you're actually doing the work, you're actually doing this. If if you were coming in and making this up, you would not be at this panic attack, and then having the results that you're doing and being able to do this, you would still be in panic. You'd still be, or you'd be this or you'd be that. And so that in itself was validating. And I got to a point where, okay, as much as I want to vindicate and like have a physical proof properly proved to everybody to everybody else, it became so aware, like I became so self-aware in that moment. Like this happened, it was stored in my body. I can't I'm not making this up. More memories are coming up. The awareness that this started when I was four, even came to light. And the fact that not only was I, it was like a not a disaster, but like a perfect storm. I was pregnant, I was telling myself all the time that I was safe in my body. That I just got the connection with four-year-olds, that my daughter was turning four, and then it happened literally the night before we were celebrating her birthday. Yeah, it was like the perfect storm for my consciousness to say, Yep. And now this is what we're going to be working on because you are perfectly aligned to know that this is this is the fullness of your story. And as much as I can sit here and be mad and upset about it, I'm also grateful because for so long, like I've done doula work, I've become a uh midwife assistant, I've done I'm a Reiki practitioner, I've done all of these different things in the meantime in my 20s, but nothing felt like it stuck, and I wanted to do business and I wanted to do things, and I love being a mom, but I really wanted to pursue and help women, right? But something was always missing, and I do feel like this awareness really helped me put all of the pieces to Lindy to understand my psyche, to understand who I am, what makes me tick, understand my body, really actually be able to connect myself to my body to actually be able to now move forward with my life in such a way. Yeah, if that makes sense. And so, so yeah, so I'm really grateful because I think that I had set myself up in my childhood to go to therapy, to really to do all of these things to get to myself to this point where this big thing happened. I had this big traumatic event, I find out that the fish is as big as it is and it didn't deal with it, and then to be able to put it in a mindset that was healthy that was this happened to me, and I can feel these negative things. I don't have to sit here and tell myself that I'm so grateful that this happened to me in an unhealthy way and deal with it in a healthy way to get to a point where I can say, Oh, I I'm okay that this happened to me. Am I grateful? No, and yes, in a weird way. You know, do I really want to say that I'm a you know sexual survivor? I was raped by my dad. No, it's not on my bingo card for life, and yet it is that that is my that is my story, and what I'm grateful to do is to now be able to say I'm whole and still working on myself, and now I can help women, I can help other people, I can help children, I can help move, you know, and create space to help other people. Yeah, and that that's exhilarating. And I'm changing my family's dynamic, and my children get to feel safe and to be raised in a completely different dynamic, and they know that they have a fierce mama bear as a mom that that's going to protect them, and that you know, they know that when safe people are not safe, they don't get to be around us.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and they get to learn at a young age what that means and what body autonomy means, and that's they get to have to be guided by a beautiful, loving mother, like you said, mama bear, that will never let any of this ever happen to her children as long as she's aware of situations and circumstances, but also they get to live their life in a way where they get to be fully authentic them authentically themselves and not have to worry about mommy or daddy doing something that I have to hide and make it sound small because they're not gonna believe me. And if I if I really tell the truth, then I'm hurting the whole family, so I'm gonna keep quiet because it's safer to keep quiet than it is to talk about it. So just creating that space for your children to truly be children and grow up in a way that children deserve to grow up with peace and wholeness and love in their home, and a mother and father that that provide that safety and bring that comfort and that peace to them, and let them be children while they're children. And let them grow up without these crazy traumatic experiences that that just damage their psyche and they make it hard for them to understand why it's happening, how it's happening, how people are letting it happen around them. Like they just get to have this beautiful, peaceful home that that you've created instead of perpetuating the abuse, you've done all that work that was so painful and hard so that your children can have this beautiful life that you craved.
SPEAKER_02Yep. And I'm now creating this business called Riptide Helix. And if I could speak about that for a minute, because it really ties this whole thing together, and is that I I have become a DNA or genomics health coach where I'm able to take people's DNA and be able to really understand what's going on on a blueprint and like biological cellular level. And so for me, I have been, we talked about kind of like in survival mode, and your body doesn't budge. Yeah, you know what I mean? And you can go through fat diets, you can do this, you can do that, and your body isn't budging, and that can feel so frustrating and overwhelming. And being able to do that, being able to help people with their health on a cellular level and be able to know, no, really, this is the diet, or these are the things that you should be doing for your DNA.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So body and then mind, I just got done with my ICF, which is international certification or federal something certification, ACC certification, to become a mindset coach. And so that whole process has been a beautiful experience to be able to understand the frameworks and the understanding of the mind and the psychology of the mind. And so being able to then help with the mind. And then, as I said, I'm a Reiki practitioner and I can help on a soul level, even on a religious level, on a soul level, body, mind, and soul is riptide helix. And I think that I've been through the riptide, yeah, I've been through uncertain waters where you feel like most people drown in riptides because they don't know that they need to that they need to swim parallel. Yeah. And so being able to have these this DNA testing and this mindset coaching frameworks and the soul, being able to bring it all together and to help coach women, children, families, be able to know how to get out of the riptides of life and being able to get out of that in such a way is now where I'm at, and the the mission and the passion that I have to to move forward. So I love that. And I I love that all the things that have that the riptides of my life and the the circumstances and the craziness of my life has been able to propel me into like what you're saying, into a better, a better position and a better to help women to help other people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I love that you've used it as a way to not just like heal yourself and then like go on and do something, but heal yourself and realize this is a needed work because I had to really struggle to figure out how to do this. And so I'm gonna create something that will help make it easier for others to use. Absolutely, absolutely. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. I love you. And I'm so grateful that you said yes last night when we were talking about it. But do where can people find you, like on social media or whatever?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Lindy Blakely and Riptide Helix. I'm kind of both on Instagram, both on Instagram at this point.
SPEAKER_00Okay, and uh thank you for being so vulnerable too because I think that when we're vulnerable, it helps people to feel like okay I I I can do this, I can get through this because I I can hear her story and tell that this is something that's happened because I feel a lot of the same feelings that this woman is saying. So thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing with us. And I'm so grateful for you and the healing that you've done, and I'm so proud of you for the woman that you're still becoming. Thank you. And who you are for your children, and I think that's just glorious.
SPEAKER_02Well, thank you for letting me be here. And gosh, I wish that this was a tool. I didn't say this earlier, but I wish this this was a tool that I had when I was going through this because how amazing is Irene to be able to put some of the dialogue and being able to put words and being able to see it right then and there that this is what is abuse and red flags. And so thank you for the work that you're doing. Thank you for everybody that is working on Irene because I think that this is something that is incredibly needed. I mean, per the statistics. Yeah, it's not even just my opinion, it's per the statistics, it's desperately needed in this world.
SPEAKER_00I I agree. I mean, it started out as one thing and it's just grown into. Is this big beautiful thing that's even more helpful than we initially thought that she could be?
SPEAKER_02And so I can't wait to watch it grow. It's amazing. It's really amazing.
SPEAKER_00And thank everybody for joining us. We appreciate you being here. And follow Lindy and follow Irene on Instagram at irene gpt.ai and TikTok irene gpt.ai. Have a blessed day.