123 - Vacation Mode : Planner vs Yolo

 The one where…Planning a vacation sounds fun… until reality hits in this episode  Fern and Nat, break down the chaos behind booking trips—from budgeting battles and packing struggles to choosing the perfect destination. Fern keeps it laid-back while Nat handles the details, leading to plenty of laughs, relatable moments, and a little bit of drama. If you’ve ever argued over where to eat, overpacked “just in case,” or just said YOLO to your budget—this episode is for you  

Transcript

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Oh my god. Welcome back to Limitless Table Talk.

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What are you yelling?

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Are you gonna let me do the thing?

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Go ahead.

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Welcome back to Limitless Table Talk. The podcast where things happen and then sometimes they happen again. And then sometimes I'm told I'm yelling, so I end up dropping my voice so much so that it almost comes out to a whisper. I'm Fern.

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And I'm Nat. This is the podcast where we talk about everything, and somehow nothing at the exact same time.

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And today we're talking about something that actually sounds relaxing.

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Really relaxing? It's actually stressful.

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Vacation planning.

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Sorry.

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It's vacation planning.

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Why is that stressful? Oh my because it's stressful. Planning a vacation is stressful. Okay.

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Listen, I'm pretty good at planning.

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What?

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I'm pretty good at planning.

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Planning what snacks?

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Yeah.

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Okay. Anyways. Alright. So let's just jump into it, okay?

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That's what I've been doing. We're gonna start with that.

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We're gonna start with the fantasy version. In your mind, planning a vacation looks like what in your mind?

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Bing bong. It looks like easy. We pick a place like Disney. Hint, hint, hint. Um the most magical place. We pick a place like the wonderful world of Disney. Book a hotel, show up, boom! Perfect trip.

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Wow. Must be nice to live in delusion.

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Excuse me?

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Mm-hmm.

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Listen, I'm such a go with the flow type person.

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No, no, no, no, no. You're a gnat handles everything, and I just show up type of person.

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You know what that is? That's teamwork.

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No, it's not.

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Yes, it is. That's gnat work. No. That's network. No, it's teamwork. Conferentials are. It's basically I say, we're going to Disney.

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And I say, no, we're not.

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And then I say we're going to Universal Studios.

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And I say, yes, we are.

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And then I say we go to.

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You're murdering me.

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Okay. So just by saying we're going, that's it. That's the vacation planning for you? Yeah. How do you think everything else happens?

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I don't know. It just does.

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You do know that planning a trip is basically a full-time job, right? Like flights, hotels, budget activities.

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And arguing where to eat.

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Okay.

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Because that seems like the big thing.

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Yes. Because somehow, some way, you suddenly become a food critic on vacation. Like you're Gordon Ramsey.

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Listen, listen, listen. I refuse to pay $28 for a burger.

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I do too. But you'll spend $60 on souvenirs. We don't need.

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I can't believe you. You don't understand that memories are priceless.

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That keychain said otherwise. Listen, I agree not having to spend $28 on a burger. But you become Gordon Ramsay all of a sudden at restaurants on vacation.

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They shouldn't make food. And they shouldn't charge what they charge for some food.

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No, I agree. That that's true. But that's all you care about on vacation. Like, where are we gonna go eat?

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Yeah. That's an important part of survival. And it's also a place that you make memories. Because how many times do you remember, hey, that thing was at this place? Or you remember that sandwich was really good. Or, yo, that pizza, fire.

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I'd remember ever saying that a pizza was fire at a restaurant.

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But you know you don't talk like that because you're not tapped in.

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I'm oh here we go.

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You're not tapped in. So you wouldn't be like that, be you'd be like, oh, that was a good pizza.

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Okay, there goes my voice again.

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That was a good pizza. Oh hell yeah.

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I'm very concerned.

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Meanwhile, I'm like, I mean, yeah, it was good. You know? It had a nice crisp. It was it was made with uh brick oven. Some places that do the brick oven.

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Mm-hmm. Yes, yes, yes. But you're not Gordon Ramsay. You even eat like you're a food critic.

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Because you should be able to taste your food. Okay. And not only that, but you should be able to sit there and say, This was very good. Or this was garbage. It was garbage, my dear. It should be thrown out.

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I mean, never mind. You know what? Let's move let's move on.

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But then some things are really good.

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Okay.

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Okay. How did you compare that to food? I mean, it's a good idea. I did not.

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What I was saying is that it's great, like some food.

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Okay. Yeah.

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Like the artwork that I get on.

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Yeah, no, their artwork is amazing. Check them out for sure. Check them out. Um moving on to something else, because I'm not going to continue talking about food with you. It always comes back to food and snacks with you.

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Didn't I just get a shirt that says you did say eat more snacks?

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Yes, you did. Oh my god, Nard.

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Because that's the way to live by eating more snacks.

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Let's just move on. Let's talk packing. Okay. Alright, let's talk packing. How do you pack for a let's say uh a three-day trip? We're going on a three-day trip. How do you pack?

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Like a responsible adult.

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Oh my god.

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So you're because that's how I do it.

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So you're packing like 17 outfits at this point.

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You never know the vibe. You never know. So you might as well be ready for vibe.

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Okay. If we're going to the beach, the vibe is just sand.

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First of all, ick. Secondly, super ick. Um. But what if we go out?

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We always say that, okay? We always say, what if we go out and we're gonna pack this to go out? And we never go out at all. We don't.

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But I'm ready.

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You're ready for what? You're ready for like 17 outings that we're not gonna do. Even like, for instance, when we go on a cruise, we don't need that many outfits.

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Of course you do. You can't have these random people see you in the same outfit twice.

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You're not in that many outfits. Half the day you're like in a bathing suit.

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And that is a joy. But but I also have multiple bathing suits. So that way the same people don't see me in the same bathing suit.

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Listen, the same people are not gonna be like, oh my god, that guy was wearing the first.

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I don't care.

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Okay, so we're leaving we're going to your son's graduation in a couple of weekends.

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Yes.

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It's not a long trip. It's like a three-day thing.

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Vibes matter.

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It's a three-day thing, and one of them is half the day you're in an auditorium, by the way. Which in that auditorium.

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I got an incredible outfit for that. Oh my god. Incredible outfit.

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We'll see. We'll see about it. But we'll see. Shocked. You're gonna be in one outfit pretty much all day that day.

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But you just said it. You said it right now.

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Pretty much all day.

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Pretty much.

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Well, because you're gonna wake up in a document.

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There's options.

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No, there isn't. Okay.

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Yes.

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The day of graduation, we're gonna wake up.

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We have to be Yes, please. Thank you, Lord, for that part.

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We're going to be, we have to be at the auditorium place, whatever he has to be at, at 12 30. Okay.

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Yes.

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And at 1 30, I think, or 2 is when the door no, 1 30 is when the doors open.

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2 o'clock is when the I'm sorry, I fell asleep twice.

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Be quiet. 2 o'clock is when the thing starts.

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Because this just sounds like way too many.

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Or something.

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1230. Listen. 1245 at 1252. So you're in the same outfit all day. 43.

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And you're not gonna have time to change before dinner. Uh-huh.

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But I'll take an extra shirt just in case. Oh my god. Anyway, so I'm taking an extra shirt.

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Why do I hear like a bird? You hear a bird, right? Or am I going crazy?

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I don't hear anything.

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Alright, anyway, I guess I'm going crazy.

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I'm just going crazy.

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It's you. I don't hear birds. You're the one that's driving me crazy. You're driving me crazy right now. Okay. Vacations bring out two types of people. The budgeters, me, and YOLO.

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YOLO.

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You.

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That's this guy.

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You're definitely the YOLO type of person.

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I I concurred. I did the uh the classic doctor thing where I said, I concur. I concur with this assessment.

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You definitely are the YOLO type of person until the credit card bill hits.

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And that's future Nat's problem.

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The problem is future Nat is tired. Like tired.

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And why I don't understand the budget.

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Why can't you stick to the budget ever? Why are you laughing?

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Because I don't believe in budgets. I believe in believing in the moment.

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But there's a budget.

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Sometimes you need to believe in the excitement of moments.

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Nick, you don't need to buy anything else.

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You don't know that for certain.

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I know that. Always.

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No, you don't. You said you don't need. I said you don't know.

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But you don't need to be able to do that.

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Two different words with different letterings.

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Is it really? I mean, that's that's how you see things.

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Yes. I have an abstract Basquiat view of the world.

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Like going on a tr on a vacation or on a trip, you need to have a budget. We can't live like that.

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You need to have a budget. I need to have excitement and fun and super cool things.

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How do you think the card goes like you don't even know how much money is on the card?

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Um I swipe until it says no more.

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You swipe until it says no more.

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Yes. Until it says no moths. No moths. I tap out.

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I see.

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Sometimes it gets you in a headlock and you gotta tap out.

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Okay.

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I haven't gotten to the headlock part.

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Okay. I hear like a bird, man. You hear it. I know you hear, and you're trying to write.

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I'm trying to hear. To see if I can hear it. And that's just weird. I don't hear a bird.

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Oh, guys, I think I'm going crazy.

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I think you're correct.

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Alright. This is where it gets serious now. Serious. Serious. Back to being serious, guys.

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This is in the serious moment.

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Where Nat is going crazy.

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There's a bird.

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I swear I hear it. There is no bird. Okay. Anyways, beach city cruise theme parks.

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I just want somewhere with food, delicious snacks, and a bed.

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You have anywhere in mind?

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The wonderful world of Disney. Because that place also has fun rides.

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We don't ride.

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We do ride the ones in Disney. When was the last time we didn't ride? It's a small world. Last time we went, whenever that was.

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Alright, I guess we can literally go anywhere, and you'd be happy.

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As long as there's snacks, absolutely, Jace.

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Well, yeah, because half the time you're the one that provides the snacks. Meanwhile, here I am with like 42 42 to 50 tabs open comparing hotels.

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That sounds like a you problem.

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And if I go to your phone, I guarantee it's comparing restaurants.

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Yes. Yes, that is correct. Because that is the way you're supposed to do things. You're supposed to say, Where am I gonna eat?

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I don't know where we're eating for after graduation, by the way.

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I've I've already said, I've already said where we're going. You are the one that says, No, I don't want to go there. And I say, Why? And you say, I don't know. Or let me say it correctly. I don't know.

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No, I have to different voices.

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It makes no sense. Why do you want to go all the way over there? Go eat some food. Why? Because we can be wasting away again in Margaritaville. Or we can be having some delicious guacamole in antojitos.

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I don't know.

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Or we can go anywhere else.

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I don't know. I don't think I'm gonna do something.

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But you haven't you see I've I I keep you know what? I'm just gonna go to the hot dog hall of fame. And I'm just gonna be happy. You're gonna be happy regardless. I don't care what you say. I'm gonna have to pack a little stuff. Oh my god, do I love hot dogs? I love hot dogs so much. I'm gonna hot dogs are my spirit animal food.

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I'm gonna have to pack a hot dog in my purse for graduation so you can be happy while you're sitting there for like four hours.

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Yes.

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Because it's gonna be long. You have to hear all those kids.

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Nope, I don't.

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Yes, you do.

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No, I don't.

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Yes, you do. What are you gonna do?

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No, I don't. I can leave.

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Where are you gonna go?

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Outside.

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You're gonna stand outside for four hours.

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I guarantee you there's a hot dog card.

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No, there won't be a lot.

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Because somebody out there is gonna be like, you know what? There's a lot of people in here. And guess what? Somebody's gonna be.

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No one's gonna be signing a hot dog on school property.

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Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you?

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Not at the school property.

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It's an arena.

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You're like a home movie. A home movie.

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They have all the things open.

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No.

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They're gonna be like, oh, people are gonna come over here. They're gonna get concessions. There's gonna be hot dogs.

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There's not gonna be a concession.

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There's hot dogs. There's hot dogs. If not, I'm putting a hot dog in my pocket and we're rolling.

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We're not putting a hot dog in your pocket. I graduate for you.

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I'll just have to put the toppings in Ziploc.

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People next to us are gonna be like, what's that smell? Someone smells like a hot dog.

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That's right. It's me, man. I'm the guy with the hot dog.

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And you're gonna bring a hot dog.

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I'm sure if you were smarter, you would have brought your own hot dog.

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And you're gonna bring condiments in your pocket.

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They're gonna be in their own individually wrapped Ziploc.

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Okay.

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And maybe a small container.

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You know how weird we sound?

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So that we can have like a so I can put the little onions?

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You know how weird this sounds?

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While I wait and sit there and be like, ugh, oh man. We got to the ends. Congratulations.

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You know how weird we sound?

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Kid. Congratulations.

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Listen.

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You got you got your degree good good on you, man. I'm glad you studied. Oh, it's still the M's.

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How'd you go from the N to the M?

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I went backwards.

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I can see that.

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That's how crazy it makes me.

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I can see it.

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It makes me so crazy. I'm going backwards. I do want to know who gets who's whose last name is with an X.

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I don't think that'll be anybody.

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I'm so interested.

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That's when all of a sudden you'll wake up.

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I'll be like, oh, someone has an X for a last name. Hmm.

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You know, I just thought of my mom's coming with us. Uh-huh. And I don't know why I'm saying this. Because I might regret it. But she's coming with her walker and it has that little seat thing that opens. You can put stuff inside of it.

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I can just put a microwave in there.

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You're not putting a microwave. Where's it going to get connected to, dummy?

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Um.

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Exactly.

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I'll have to look it up and see where I can get a microwave.

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You're not going to get a microwave.

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That runs on a battery pack.

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What is wrong with you?

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Or maybe I'll bring one of those little uh what are those little things? The little things, a heat of food that put that they put underneath the bottom of the of the trays.

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What is wrong with you? Where are you gonna charge it?

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You don't charge those things. They're little flames.

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You're gonna put a flame now.

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It's hot, so it warms up to food.

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Fern.

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It's one of those things. You know what I'm talking about? The little butane candle things they put underneath.

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You're gonna be an embarrassment at this graduation.

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I'm gonna be a hungry dude that's finally gonna be able to eat while he's sitting there waiting for four hours to go from A all the way to Z. You understand?

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I understand. I'm gonna be at the same graduation.

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I know.

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But you know I can just picture I get hangry. I can just picture you know I get hangry. Hold on. I can just picture them saying a child's name. And it be you know, parents clapping, yay, and then Fern with his little bag of chips.

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That's gonna be embarrassing. It's gonna happen while they clap so that there's no noise.

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It's gonna be embarrassing.

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You're gonna hear like like like everybody, hey, everybody's clapping.

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It's so embarrassing. You have to be sophisticated. Our son is graduating.

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Listen.

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What?

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I'm not gonna be sophisticated. We've gone completely off the road. I'm just telling you that I'm not gonna be sophisticated just for the sake of one moment. I'm going to be myself. Always.

unknown 20:53

Oh my god.

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You're always.

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Like like like Severus Snape said.

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You are not bringing Along.

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Always.

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You're not bringing snacks to graduation. I'm bringing snacks. The most maybe is a granola bar.

unknown 21:08

Ugh.

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You're not bringing, you're not bringing snacks. Nobody wants granola. You're not bringing hot dogs.

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I'm gonna bring a nacho. A loaded nacho.

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This isn't of a game. Like we're not gonna do it.

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I'm gonna bring an entire loaded nacho and maybe a pie.

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Stop.

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No, you're not maybe a pie.

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You're gonna hold that to the rest of us.

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Oh, what is this? It's a creme brulee cheesecake. It's okay. We can eat it. Do you want it? You want a bite? No. You can't have a bite. It's mine.

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We're gonna hold we're we're gonna be able to You know what?

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I'm gonna tell you this. If you say you're hungry while I'm scarfing down a hot dog It's it bad on you. You're not it's bad on you. You're not.

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You're gonna be fine. You'll have a late breakfast.

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Bad on you.

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And I'll take a grown olive bar for you.

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So gross. I do not want granola. Does anyone like granola?

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I do. And then you'll have dinner in the floor.

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Does anyone find out normal like granola? I do. Does any human I do. That is not this person here like granola.

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Lord help me. We've gone off the rail completely.

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You've gone off the rail. No. You mentioned something that deserved my rebuttal.

unknown 22:35

Oh my god.

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I can't. I can't with you. Okay. We've gone completely, completely off.

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That sounds like a you problem again. Just like planning vacations. That's a you problem.

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Planning.

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I just show up and have fun.

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Is worse than the actual trip. The planning.

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That's why I'm saying it sounds like a you problem. I show up, I have fun, we're good to go.

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I mean, sometimes planning builds the excitement.

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And stress. What?

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It's exciting at first to plan.

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Hot take. Planning is worse than the trip.

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I just said that.

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No. It's a hot take. Yeah, but you didn't say hot take. Oh, I'm sorry. It's a hot take. It's a hot take.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

But planning also builds excitement, I think, because I'm gonna tell you this.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

I've I every time I see you planning, you're stressed.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

I know. It's stressful, but it's exciting because I'm going on a trip.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

Yeah, you're excited, but you're all like stressed out.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Yeah, I'm stressed because you don't help.

SPEAKER_03 23:41

I provide emotional support and I also guide you to where we could possibly eat that you're gonna say no to.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

You just pro no, you just provide spots.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

I point and I say, Let's eat here, and you say no. And then I say, okay, so let's eat here, and you say no. And then I say, Let's eat over there, and you say no.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

Because they're the same places that you normally mention.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Obviously, because I know the food is good. That's why I say the same place. Listen, I'm not gonna be like, hey, let's go to this random place over there that I've never been to, that I don't know if the food is good.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

But I saw it on Instagram and it said it was good.

SPEAKER_03 24:26

You're gonna You're gonna believe some rando.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

No, I'm gonna believe food critics that do this.

SPEAKER_03 24:36

A rando that has never How many times have we gone to a place that you said, let's go here? And then all of a sudden we're like, that's a $47 burger.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Okay. And then it's like a couple of times. And then I tell you to get back in the car and let's go.

SPEAKER_03 24:57

But I'm already hungry.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Too bad, so sad. You should have packed a hot dog.

SPEAKER_03 25:02

I should have packed a hot dog. And that brings me back to there's gonna be a hot dog at this ceremony.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

I cannot believe we have talked about a freaking hot dog at a graduation.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

It's gonna be a pocket dog.

unknown 25:23

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

I can't. Are you done?

SPEAKER_03 25:26

It's gonna be there.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Are you done?

SPEAKER_03 25:28

If not, I'm gonna bring a little can of salchichas.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

Oh my god, stop. What the heck was that noise?

SPEAKER_03 25:36

That's Milo breathing. Again, he's just sleeping. He has a he has a snorty sleepy.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

A snorty sleepy?

SPEAKER_03 25:45

Yes. He he he um How many times are you gonna say he in the center? Maybe a few more. He. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. Um He's a sound sleeper.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

You couldn't even finish what you were gonna say.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

He's literally a sound sleeper. Come on, man. That was a terrible joke. You should have been like, ha, that was a good one. But you didn't do it.

unknown 26:15

No, I did not.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Are you done with that?

SPEAKER_03 26:17

He's a sound sleeper because he makes sounds when he sleeps.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

This is like disaster.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

No. This is like I'm gonna point to another place to eat, and then you're gonna say no. But then you're gonna be like, oh, but this person on the gram said, and then we're gonna go there. And your palate is not sophisticated enough to like it. Because they don't have dinosaur chicken nuggets. Oh my god, those are the things. I know they are for you.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Okay. But let's be honest. Let's be honest now. Vacations can test relationships. Don't look at me like that.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Especially when you're hungry.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

Yes. Yes, we know that I can be very hangry. We're gonna use that term. Hangry. Which is why again I constantly say if you don't got snacks, you ain't in the sweet spot.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

This has become the episode about food. This has become this has become the episode about food. Ready? Are you done with that nonsense?

SPEAKER_03 27:40

All I'm saying is, if we're going somewhere, we're eating. And on our way there, we gotta have snacks.

unknown 27:50

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

I can't with you. Why? Why? Why is everything about food with you?

SPEAKER_03 27:56

Because it's good and it helps you survive.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Okay, whatever, dude. If you say so. If you say so. Okay. But back, can we get back on track here?

SPEAKER_03 28:09

You can if you want to. It's all up to you. I just follow along. All right. And sit here and say things.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Since we're on food and apparently I guess food is a big thing on vacations with people.

SPEAKER_03 28:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

Uh nothing hurts more than bad food on vacation. True.

SPEAKER_03 28:32

Because you waited all day for that meal.

unknown 28:35

And paid double.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

What do you expect?

SPEAKER_01 28:37

And I paid double for the price, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 28:40

And now you're sitting in there at the table, like we really chose this because I said thirteen other places.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

Yes, and that's when your attitude comes out.

SPEAKER_03 28:55

And that's when you start getting quiet.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Because I'm just processing that betrayal.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

You know, the whole day. Coulda had a snack. Could have had a snack. Could have had a bunch of cashews.

SPEAKER_01 29:18

That's what you're you see, you can take cashews.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

I'm not gonna eat cashews at a graduation. I'm eating a hot dog. I'm having hot dogs, whether you like it or not.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Okay. Whatever, dude. Why do we plan vacations like we're training for an Olympic event?

SPEAKER_03 29:36

Because you don't know how to relax.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

Excuse him, what? I want to exp I like to experience everything.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

But then we need a vacation. From the vacation.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

That part is true. We always say it. That's why we try. Our expertise is take the day off when you come back from vacation.

SPEAKER_03 30:07

To recuperate and eat regular food.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

You make it sound like I don't feed you. What? Anyway, don't believe him. He eats guys. Listen, you eat. Don't don't even. Can we have an another hot take here?

SPEAKER_03 30:30

Okay. All right, here's my hot take.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Fine, okay. Hold on the gremlin over there.

SPEAKER_03 30:46

If you're not going to Disney, not every vacation is worth it.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

That now that's controversial. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

If you're stressed the whole time, was it even a vacation? Well was it?

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Well but but that can go both ways because bad trips become funny trips later. The stressful trips become funny trips for us later. We laugh about it.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Um okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

I mean, come on, think about it. Think about Okay, think about it. Think about it. New Orleans. New Orleans. Worst trip for me. But we laugh about it. I actually uh we laugh about it now, true or not?

SPEAKER_03 31:36

We laugh a lot about it.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

But it was the worst trip. It was. You can't say it wasn't.

SPEAKER_03 31:43

I had one eye. I had one eye.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

One eye willy over here.

SPEAKER_03 31:47

And you had the shellfish allergies.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Exactly.

unknown 31:50

Worst.

SPEAKER_03 31:51

We were pretty bad. We were pretty bad. Yes. Do I need to go back to New Orleans? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Yeah. Well, now we know what to do. Yes. We take pink eye medicine for you. And I take allergy pills from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep. But now we know how to do it. But that was really our worst trip. Think about it, out of all of our trips.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

Because it wasn't Disney.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

That would be our number, for me, it's our number one. I'm ignoring you now. Our number one worst trip. Because the second worst trip was one of our cruises that we went on that we went doing the wrong time of year, and it was super rocky.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

But it was a great ship.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

It was a great ship, but we spent half of it nauseous. And then there was an emergency, remember?

SPEAKER_03 32:44

Oh, the fire. Because they had a fire. There was a fire on the ship.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

And there was a fire in the engine room.

SPEAKER_03 32:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

And they made us all go. See, now we go back now to the story. They made us go back to the cabin, but didn't tell us why. They just like everyone had to go back.

SPEAKER_03 33:03

And you know, they always have like that weird voice.

SPEAKER_02 33:05

Yes, he sounded like Gru. Everyone needs to go back to the cabin. There is an emergency on the ship, please. Everyone go back to the cabin.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

And he said to grab our life vests.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Grab your life vest and put them on, remember? Put them on and stay in your cabin until otherwise told. And then you're like, you're like, I paid for this?

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Well, we opened the door, and in the hallway were the people like in the the cabin across us next to us, and they're like, what's going on? All I remember is you saying, Hey, the people that work on the ship are running down the hallway with the light bust on.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

Yeah, I recall that.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

And it was scary because we had no window. We had an interior room, remember?

SPEAKER_04 33:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

And here we were, we were no, we had the balcony.

SPEAKER_04 33:54

We had a balcony.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

Yes, and we were like, we're not going down, so what's going on? And remember, we were analyzing, I kept telling you, well, we'll just use the door. And you said, I fit on the door, Nat, okay? I fit on the door with you. Don't be selfish.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

That was our second worst trip because that was scary. Then they told us it was all clear, and then they told us there was a fire in the engine.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

But it was a great time, other than that.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Yes, but we laughed about it.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

And that was the best creme brulee we've ever had.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

Yes, but we laugh about it now.

SPEAKER_03 34:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

But that was, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. That was good. That was good. That was good. Alright, quick fire.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

Cachao.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

Vacation edition.

SPEAKER_03 34:42

Ca chow, ka chow. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Alright. Early flight or late flights?

SPEAKER_03 34:48

Late because I don't trust mornings.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Window or aisle seats?

SPEAKER_03 34:53

Aisle. I need the freedom.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Overpack or underpack?

SPEAKER_03 34:58

Underpack.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Lies.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

Okay. Emotionally underpack.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

Okay, that sounds more like you.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Because you don't need 17 outfits for a three-day trip.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

You don't know that.

SPEAKER_01 35:13

But I do know that.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

You don't know that. Yes, I do. You don't know what the vibe is gonna be like. You don't understand vibes. You're not tapped in.

unknown 35:23

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

Alright, all right. So we actually had a listener story. Someone put sends us uh a question, I guess, is what it is.

SPEAKER_03 35:35

Whoa. That's uh pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

Okay. You want to hear the drama?

SPEAKER_03 35:42

Of course I want to hear the drama. You're not gonna say this person's name, right? No. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Anytime someone sends us a question or anything, um, we don't say your name. You're anonymous.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Only you know who you are.

SPEAKER_03 35:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

Always.

SPEAKER_03 35:59

Do you know?

SPEAKER_00 36:00

We're like um what is it?

SPEAKER_03 36:02

Dear advanced. We're like lawyers. What?

SPEAKER_00 36:04

We're like lawyers. What you say to us, your name is never revealed.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

What? I don't know. It made no sense.

SPEAKER_03 36:13

What are you talking about? That's the mafia.

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Okay, so we're the mafia now?

SPEAKER_03 36:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

No, we're not. No, we're not. We're really not. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

It's it's we don't need people knocking on our door. Go ahead and tell us a story. We won't tell anybody. Just tell us what happened, and we'll take care of it.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

All right. Oh, this is a good one. I'm ignoring you now. This is a good one. Are you ready? Because you haven't even seen it.

SPEAKER_03 36:42

I have no idea what's happening.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Because you don't follow up in our stuff either.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

I just exist.

unknown 36:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Anyways. All right.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

All right, listeners. Fern's gonna listen to this at the same time as you. You ready?

SPEAKER_03 36:56

Go.

SPEAKER_01 36:56

All right. Here's the question we got. Hey, Fern and Nat. My husband refuses to plan anything for our trips, but complains the whole time. What should I do?

SPEAKER_02 37:07

God feels so attacked right now.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

As you should, actually. I feel like, did I write this for you?

SPEAKER_03 37:13

All right. My advice. My advice. I'm gonna give advice. Like real advice. I'm gonna give real advice.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

Let him plan the next trip.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

Ooh, yes. Let him struggle.

SPEAKER_03 37:25

And remember this one bad trip will fix everything.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

That's true. Because if it's a bad trip, he'd be like, but that could be bad for her. You might be wanting to rethink this.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

Think about this. Let him plan it. It's gonna be terrible. It's gonna be wonderful. And then you're gonna talk about it years later and be like, hey, remember that trip to what we took? It's awful. This is why it'll let you plan trips.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

But then that's what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 37:54

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

It this can backfire on you, honey. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_03 37:59

This you're welcome. It may be terrible, but he may figure it out. Because I always every time I plan trips, which I don't, I always say, let's go to Disney. And then I hear, No, we're not going to Disney. We don't have annual passes. What's wrong with you? And then I say, Okay, so let's not go there, but let's go there because I think that would be wonderful. Because there's nothing better than doing it's a small world 13 times. Who doesn't want to do that? I hear I understand that there's some more new things added to the ride, which I'm really excited about. Because I haven't seen it. I also understand that there's some new stuff happening in other places.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

Like I heard Guardians of the Galaxy now has a ride. It used to be living with the it wasn't living with the land. What was it? Universe of energy. So I remember Universe of Energy. And we haven't been there since Guardians of the Galaxy has uh been created. So I'm curious to see how that goes.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

Alright. I mean we have time for one more.

SPEAKER_03 39:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:25

One more. We we had a we had a couple. So if I didn't get to yours today, don't don't feel like we ignored it. We'll get it on the next one. Okay. Because we had a couple. So here's another one. This one's good. I like this one. You ready?

SPEAKER_03 39:43

I'm gonna hear it for the first time. I know, but are you ready?

SPEAKER_01 39:46

I'm asking if you're ready.

SPEAKER_03 39:47

I I have no choice but to be ready.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

It looks like you have your thinking cap on.

SPEAKER_03 39:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:52

All right. This one says, Hey Fernandette, I've been with my partner for three years. We love each other, but lately it feels like we're just roommates. No dates, no effort, barely on any affection. I brought it up, but nothing really changes. Do I keep trying, or is this just a sign that it's over?

SPEAKER_03 40:14

Wow. That's real.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:20

It that that one is real. I mean, I feel like a lot of couples do go through this and they just don't talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

Yeah, that uh roommate phase can sneak up on you, right? Life gets busy, routines take over.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

But let's be honest, effort is a choice.

SPEAKER_03 40:39

Exactly. I mean, it is exactly. If you've already brought it up and nothing is changing, that's where things get kind of tricky.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

But by the way, we we are no like we don't have degrees in this. This is just us speaking as a cult.

SPEAKER_03 40:57

That's not true. I have a doctorate in thuggonometry.

unknown 41:01

Oh my god, Lord.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

No, seriously, uh, we could kind of only tell you based on like what we know.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

Right, right, right. Because it's not about knowing there's um uh a problem, it's about doing something about the issue, if that makes sense to you.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, I there's there's there's something there's something that I would say, and I'd say do not ignore it. Resentment builds fast, like super fast in situations like that.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

And everyone deserves to feel loved, not just accommodated love.

SPEAKER_03 41:49

Ooh, wow, listen to you. Who are you? Oh, look who hasn't talked to it today. Yes, all right. Honestly, it's probably time for a real conversation, like a real, like a like a conversation, okay? Not casual, but like a sit-down, no distractions, a all right, we have to have a serious talk, kind of talk. You know what I mean? Uh yeah, it they those get scary.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

They get scary, but you gotta get in that moment. Um, I feel like being clear is very important. Like, don't just assume that you're making a point. Um, you don't want to feel like you have to be like honest, like come clear and say, I don't want to feel like roommates, I need effort, affection, time. Be honest in what you feel or want. Wow, you know.

SPEAKER_03 42:51

So what happens after that if nothing changes?

SPEAKER_01 42:56

Then you have your answer, I guess. Unfortunately.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

Yes. Because staying in something that feels empty just because it's comfortable, that's not it. That's not what it's about. That's true.

SPEAKER_01 43:11

I mean, look, relationship takes work, but it shouldn't feel one-sided. Like you shouldn't be the only one doing all the work at all.

SPEAKER_03 43:21

Definitely not. Um you gotta have a conversation. I mean, what do I do? Communication. Communication. Right?

SPEAKER_01 43:33

It's true.

SPEAKER_03 43:33

Communication, it's time to take the target trip talk, the triple T. It's the triple T. It's target trip talk. Okay, you go to Target and you have that conversation.

SPEAKER_01 43:49

And that can be your date too. Well, that's morning, afternoon, night, doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 43:53

I mean, there's nothing better than Target.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

It's true. I mean you go there.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

You go to the aisle that has the stuff to hang things on, right? The ones that have the little painting stuff. Like, like, oh, I'm gonna hang up, I'm gonna have a I'm gonna hang a frame because that's an awkward aisle. There's nothing really cool there, it's just like weird little little screws.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

I think the awkward aisle would be like at Ross in the painting.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

What are you talking about? Ross is awful. You should never go to Ross unless you decide that this is where you want to spend the next 14 hours of your life in line.

SPEAKER_01 44:39

We're trying to help someone here.

SPEAKER_03 44:40

That's why I'm saying you go to Target, you go to the awkward aisle, or you go, you know where you go to the other aisle to have this conversation? Greeting cards.

unknown 44:52

What?

SPEAKER_03 44:52

You go to the greeting cards aisle and you find the right card. And you pull out the card when you're there, and it says, Happy birthday, four-year-old. And you say, huh. Wow, this is a great way to for me to tell you that for the last four months we've been roommates. Be like, but what does that have to do with a four-year-old's birthday card? Nothing. It just brought out the number. And I felt like it should be a great way for me to open this up and say, we need more snacks in the house.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Oh my god, stop it. Anyways, I hope that helped a little bit. Besides the snack situation.

SPEAKER_03 45:45

What do you mean beside the snack situation? We should always have snacks.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

Okay. You know what? I hope that helped. If you have any other questions, anyone else, or a story or something you want to share, let us know. Send it to us.

SPEAKER_03 45:59

Or you go to the feminine hygiene.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

Oh my god, stop it. Send it to us on at Instagram.

SPEAKER_03 46:04

That way, if there's if there's any kind of like uh deep gashes, you can stop the bleeding.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

Are you done?

SPEAKER_03 46:11

That was good.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

At Limitless Couple 305. Just send us a message there. But moral of the story, vacation planning is chaotic.

SPEAKER_03 46:22

But worth it once you're there.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

Even if you overpack, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

Even if you overspend.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

And argue over food. Yes, you still make memories. That was good.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

I can't believe we said that at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

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SPEAKER_03 46:42

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SPEAKER_01 47:07

Anyways, till next episode. We love you guys. Thanks for hanging out with us.

SPEAKER_03 47:14

Period.