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Anne Frank, Hippos, James Bond and Dinosaurs | Episode 5 | 60plusthepodcast

• 60plusthepodcast • Season 1 • Episode 5

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Two hosts turn the mics on themselves with a fast, funny, and revealing hour of hot takes, human nature, and a few unpopular truths. Rapid-fire hypotheticals give way to real talk about boundaries, coping, trust, and doing your own research.

• century-old boxing and a playful cold open
• why we’re stepping in front of the camera
• randomizer questions on boundaries and heroes
• relationships, secrets, dealbreakers, and kiss cam rules
• music confessions and reaction video tangents
• petty tortures, NYC food lore, and dollar-slice honesty
• who belongs on New York City money and why
• animals as protection: hippo force vs rat psychology
• social etiquette: daps, waves, and public pressure
• coping habits, motivation, finishing what we start
• unlearning, political labels, and research mindset
• reflection round on trust, work, and consistency

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SPEAKER_03:

There are 293 ways to make change for a dollar. This is the 60 Plus Podcast. My name is Mike. My name is Amir. And this one is about us. It's the easiest way to put it. This one is about us. This is your chance to get to know us. So uh Amir. Wait, wait, wait. Well we got for today for the 100 years ago. Oh, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. But I thought he was gonna bite that.

SPEAKER_02:

No, no, no, no, no. I need my hundred years back. Come on now. I need that. So 100 years ago today, someone named Rocky.

SPEAKER_03:

What the hell is that?

SPEAKER_02:

Italian-born Rocky. Maybe that's where Sylvester Salone got it from. They fought like this.

SPEAKER_03:

Put him up. Put 'em up. Yeah. That's them 18-round fights. Niggas would get knocked down, fighting in the sun. Nah. He ain't win for real. There was no CT. Yeah, yeah. There were no medical staff. That's when Jack Johnson was fighting. Winning 20-round fights. That's crazy. If you didn't die, you were still good too. No, you ain't die, you was good. Get up. No 10 counts.

SPEAKER_02:

We were fine. Yeah. So a boxer named Rocky, Kansas, Rocco Tazo. Was his name? Rocco Tonzo.

SPEAKER_03:

And you said lightweight?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, he was a lightweight boxing champ. Okay. Italian-born American boxer. I wish you'd have given me more information on this though, but. That was 100 years ago today.

SPEAKER_04:

Alright.

SPEAKER_02:

Alright, Mike, take it away.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, like I said before, this is your chance to get to know us. Yeah, I've seen us talk to a few people and seen what the premise is behind this. But uh, this is your chance to get to know us. We'll step in front of the camera real quick for a little bit. Just for a little bit. We might be honest, we might not. Just roll with it. It depends. Yeah, just roll with it. So I guess we gotta start off with the randomizer, like we always do. Yes, we do. So, what are the numbers that you picked so that I can ask you these randomizer questions? Or should I say the numbers that I picked for you? I thought that's the same. Okay, no, no, no, okay, okay, yeah, yeah. We're gonna do it like that. Yeah, yeah. That makes more sense. That makes more sense, yes. So, your first question. When sharing something with someone, is their first answer their final answer? So, say for example, you offer somebody some chips and they're like, nah, I'm good. Yeah, that's your final answer. So the first answer is always no matter what, that's your final answer. Be decisive.

SPEAKER_02:

I I don't need balance. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

No waffling.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like when you ask your girl, what she wants your, and she doesn't know. But then you order something and she's like, Can I have some?

SPEAKER_03:

No. No. You had your opportunity. No. Then they they do the face?

SPEAKER_02:

No.

SPEAKER_03:

No puppy dog eyes? It doesn't work.

SPEAKER_02:

It doesn't work.

SPEAKER_03:

All right. Next question. Since you're the fucking. Oh, for me, okay, guys.

SPEAKER_02:

There we go. Here's here's the here's the good thing. This is this is the thing that people need to know. Uh-oh. Would you rather be James Bond or Batman?

SPEAKER_03:

They both white. I don't want to be neither one of them. We can't get a black superhero. James Bond ain't do nothing but rape women and get them drunk and just shoot niggas. He ain't do nothing. And Batman is a rich psychopath that just fights crazy people. Batman himself might be crazy. Okay, so you said James Bond is a what?

SPEAKER_02:

He's a grapis. Okay, so we'll flip James Bond and we'll add Bill Cosby. And then you said Batman is who?

SPEAKER_03:

You added another grapeist, possibly. We can't get another Blackman.

unknown:

Tony Stark.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, so Batman Tony Stark. Who got more money? I guess Tony Stark because he got cool suits.

SPEAKER_02:

He does have cool suits.

SPEAKER_03:

Batman just white. Like that's Batman's superpower. Is that he's white? And rich. Yeah, but he's white. That's even more important than the rich part. He's white. There's no way a black person could put on a suit, go out in the middle of the night, and fight a dude who's schizophrenic like the Joker and be lauded for it. There's no way. No black dude will ever get a black a bat signal. Come on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I guess I give me Iron Man. Yeah, I'll be Iron Man.

SPEAKER_02:

You be Iron Man?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I'll be Iron Man.

SPEAKER_02:

So between James Bond and Batman, he chooses Iron Man.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes. That's where we're going with. Okay. Okay, honestly, what did James Bond do?

SPEAKER_02:

It was a lot of women. But he all he did was get drunk. Well, he well, wouldn't you say that he and Tony Stark? At least Tony Stark made suits and had the Avengers. He had a team of people. Yeah, sure. James Bond just shot people.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that's all James Bond did was shoot people in Antarctica somewhere where no one was supposed to be in the first place. Nah, he overrated. That's why he was after the Russians. Yeah. Alright, your next one. Would you rather your partner keep a big secret from you or be forced to keep one from them?

SPEAKER_02:

Would you rather would you rather have your partner be forced to keep a secret from you? Or you keep a secret from them? Yep. Yeah, I'll go me all the day. You're gonna keep the secret?

SPEAKER_03:

You can keep the secret. That's fair enough.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't trust someone enough to Okay, so you trust yourself to keep the secret and not say something. I just think that's just a thing a lot of people would say.

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm. I ain't mad at that.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's my final answer.

SPEAKER_03:

Final answer. That's it. The first one is the final one.

unknown:

Shit.

SPEAKER_02:

That's a callback. That's a callback. Okay. Um, if your wife became a crackhead and she got clean, would you take her back? Nope. I like these questions.

SPEAKER_03:

I like these questions. This is not Tyler Perry. This is not House of Pain. That is not. No. Because what were you doing when you were out there in the streets when you were smoking all that crack?

SPEAKER_02:

How did she get her crack? Exactly. I think the game said uh the fentanyl is free, but the addiction will cost you.

SPEAKER_03:

Exactly. And no, and once a crackhead, always a crackhead in my eyes. That that about crackhead strength? Like if she could move the fridge. That's another problem. No, because then that could be taken out on me. No. What if I'm chilling in the house and she get upset and I can't deal with her crackhead strength? Yeah, no, no. That's what Captain America is. Captain America ain't nothing but a crackhead. They shot him up with some stuff. He got mad brolic. You couldn't knock him out. So she would be Captain America. Nah. And then he had a shield made by black people? Exactly. Crackhead steel. No, no, no, no, no. Alright. No, thank you. Alright. Your next question. How would you feel if your girl saved you and won a fight you were in? So you got in a fight with a dude, she steps in, like you getting your ass whooped, and she steps in and beat the dude up. And she went. Like she knocked the nigga out.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll be for it. You with it? Yeah, I'm with it. I'm with it. It just shows that you're not with a liability. You're with an asset. Always be with an asset.

unknown:

That's right.

SPEAKER_02:

That's why I do martial arts. And that's why the person ended up with they have to do martial arts.

SPEAKER_03:

Copy. Because if for some reason my shoulder goes out. There is no weakness around here. There's no weakness around here. You will practice. You're gonna learn something. Because I'll be like, hold on, take her instead. I just need to sit down for a bit. Hold up. She got it. She can do it. She got it. If you can beat her, then you can got rankings. You gotta rise up to get to this level. Hold on. She's first.

SPEAKER_02:

She hasn't been practicing lately. Oh she needs the sparring practice. Alright, so my question to you is what's a song you hated at first, but now you really like?

SPEAKER_03:

You know what? Uchiwali by Nas. Really? I never cared for Uchi Wally when it first came out. And even growing up, but now Uchi Wally is alright. It's still not a good song, but I can listen to it. Like, it's it's it's okay. It's still not good. I still haven't heard it. Wait, you've never heard Uchi Wally? I've never heard it. Time, time, time, we're about to stop right now. Pause. Wait a minute. This nigga has never heard Uchi Wally? Why we ain't doing rap reactions? Why we ain't doing rap reactions out here? Oh my god. You've heard Uchi Wally before. No, you have.

SPEAKER_02:

You heard this. I'll get ready to take part though.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Yeah, I just say you heard this. Okay, I'll get ready to say there's no way you've been around hip-hop.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like when we listen, when we did the um this episode is gonna come out the following weeks, the Boston rock music, rock group reaction would be. It's like um More Than a Feeling by Boston.

SPEAKER_03:

You know? You hear it somewhere, you know it, but you don't know who it is or what the title is. There's a lot of songs like that.

SPEAKER_02:

We gotta find those songs and we gotta react to that.

SPEAKER_03:

I would get ready to say it because woof, alright. Yeah. Alright, your question for you. I'm not gonna answer. What's a way to tell a girl she's ugly without her knowing?

SPEAKER_02:

The son would be afraid of you. No? No? You would say that to somebody? You got a face for radio? Can you say that? Would you?

SPEAKER_03:

You have a face for radio. These thoughts are mirrors.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm like really thinking about it right now.

SPEAKER_03:

You got a brother? I know you got a brother. You got to. There's no way you don't have a brother. Oh, sit up. Or your mom's jeans to not try. They ain't trying. At all. No. No, you you're close with your dad, ain't you? Anyway.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, could a Chad GPT some of those? Oh. If you could own any franchise restaurant, what would it be? It would have to be McDonald's. That's the money.

SPEAKER_03:

Because they're in the real estate business. All right. It would have to be McDonald's. But if not that cliche answer, alright, let me get let me think of a different one. I'll do a Kennedy's fried chicken. Hey, man. A Chinese restaurant. A fast food Chinese spot. Depends. Like a whole younger. It gotta be a hole in the wall. And it gotta be pre-made grease. Like everywhere. You gotta have bars. That's the only way Chinese. Bars on the windows, right? Nah, if you say a franchise, though, it can't be like the hood Chinese spot. Kennedy technically is a franchise. It is. Technically. Take Kennedy's uh to Alabama. Sure. Make some money out here. I've always wanted to open Kennedy's downtown. Like deep down, yes. Yo, think about it. When the clubs and the parties and stuff is done. Where are you gonna go? If you could get a three-piece for three dollars, you telling me at 1-2 in the morning, you're not gonna pull up and get a three-piece. I ain't saying it's chicken, but you're gonna get a three-piece for three dollars or four dollars? That's true. Come on. That's sure. They got that nasty dollar pizza.

SPEAKER_02:

You know what's gotten worse? What? 99 cents pizza is not what it used to be. It was never good. You used to like it? It was decent before. It was decent before. No, it tastes like cardboard and vegan cheese. It's a dollar. What are you expecting? It's a dollar.

SPEAKER_03:

You just getting sauced up bread. It's all chemicals. Yeah, you're getting some sauced up bread. That's it. Alright, go ahead. Alright, let's see what we got. Mm-mm-mm. How many times can you dap somebody before it gets weird in a conversation? How many times are you allowed to give dap to somebody in a combo before it gets weird?

SPEAKER_02:

I think after the third one, someone got to buy someone a drink. I think after the third one, someone needs to buy someone a drink. It's like, yeah, what's going on? Why you keep dapping me up for it? Just go, just go out. Right. Just go out. I've seen some of those where it's like, it's like okay. The fifth one right here.

SPEAKER_03:

It's like, alright, man. Alright. No more high fives.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm with you on that one. I'm with you. It gets really, really creepy out there. What's the scariest natural element? Oh, water. Hands down. You think so?

SPEAKER_03:

Water. Hands down. That is the worst thing ever. Can you imagine that? Something that's supposed to give you life can take your life away that fast. Some could say. No, you're right. Like, think about it. You're not supposed to go on the ocean. If you go on the ocean, whatever happens to you happens to you. This like what? The earth is what? 98% water?

SPEAKER_02:

No, 70%. Sorry, I think it was 78. 98% water would be crazy. That's a lot 78% is still a lot. That's too much. That's a lot, man. Hey Siri. What percentage of the earth is water? 71% of the Earth's surface is the water. That's too much. That's a lot of water. Hey Siri. What percentage of the earth is the Pacific Ocean? So 71% of the Earth's surface is water. The Pacific Ocean covers one-third of the Earth's surface.

SPEAKER_03:

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_02:

That doesn't scare you.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't want no smoke with water. It doesn't scare him. It doesn't scare him at all. Right. I want no smoke with the water. I take a shower. I drink water. That's it. I put water in food. That is literally it. That's it. I don't want nothing to do with the water.

SPEAKER_02:

Huh? Point Nemo?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

What is that?

SPEAKER_00:

It's like it's the farthest away, the farthest point away from land in the ocean. You're closer to a satellite than you are from land.

SPEAKER_02:

Nah, that's terrifying. No. Because if you don't have seen those deep water ex expeditions, those like fission expeditions. Yo, it girl out there, bro. That's crazy. There's no way. If you are closer to space than you are to land, that is a massive issue.

SPEAKER_03:

That's what I'm saying. There's no way. There's no way. No, water is the scariest natural element.

SPEAKER_02:

Damn.

SPEAKER_03:

Megalodonia. Right. Hey, come on. That angler fish all the way at the bottom. Just real quick. Got air. No, no, relax. Relax. With the light over. Yeah. You see the light first, and then you see the T. Exactly. Nah. Uh-uh. No, thank you.

SPEAKER_02:

I've seen Fanny Nemo.

SPEAKER_03:

No, thank you.

SPEAKER_02:

We're not doing that. On the movie. So with elements. Water. Fire. Fire. Air. Water. Water, fire, air, land.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. And that's it. It's only four. Avatar the airbender, right? Ain't there only four things? It's five? Was it five? I don't know. I ain't watched Avatar in a long time. So isn't like a bloodbender? Oh, that is true. That is true. She did. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_02:

Wait, hold on. So let's let's let's ask this as a social media thing. So this could be like an end-time social media reel. Is blood a natural element?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, so it is five. So the five elements are water, wood, fire, earth, and metal. Nature. That's what it is. Nature. Metal, you just magneto. And once people start making stuff with plastic, you it's a judge of the floor. Yes, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Biodegradable man. And wood, you just get mad splinters. That's alright now. Yeah, it's either fire or water. It's one of them too. It's one of them too. I'm gonna go water. I'm gonna sip it with water.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I got a question. If you could torture someone in an unorthodox way, how would you do it? So, for example, for me, I would leave Legos randomly on the floor. That makes you step on Legos. You gotta step on them. You don't even see them, you just step on them.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh, I would make them listen to Ice JJ Fish all day. Just mad random. Yeah, mad random, like old vine people. So you can't have access to So no knobs. It gotta be something small, like to annoy you over time. Yeah, you can't no stove, no nothing. Take all the forks to believe the spoons. Take all the forks to believe the spoons. Mad butter knives. Just mad butter knives in your house. You gotta figure out knives. He gotta figure it out.

SPEAKER_02:

That is that is mean.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, alright. Let me see. Let me see.

SPEAKER_02:

Imagine trying to cut a steak with a butter knife.

SPEAKER_03:

It would take years. Let's see that white one. Uh if they made a porn hall of fame, would you go?

SPEAKER_02:

No. No? I don't care. It's gonna smell like lube.

SPEAKER_03:

Where would you put that? Like not for nothing? It's like what qualifies you to get in the porn hall of fame? Is it streams? How many movies?

SPEAKER_02:

How many movies? Is it movies? Is it is it gross revenue? Is it payloads? Like, what do you think? I don't know what the criteria would be. Do they measure in cream pie? Like, what are it's so many things. Is it liquid and element?

SPEAKER_03:

Are we oh that white lady, yeah? The British lady. She had like what, a thousand people in one day or something like that, just back to back. That's nasty. The fact she has a fiance is the problem. Like that right there is the problem. He needs Arkham Asylum. It's like, dog, there's other people out there.

SPEAKER_02:

Am I asking you a question next?

unknown:

What?

SPEAKER_02:

Am I asking the next question?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't even know where I am. I forgot what number I'm on.

SPEAKER_03:

I got another one for you. Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_02:

Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm gonna think of one. Alright, so I'm I'm gonna do this one a little bit different. So I'm gonna get up and then Chris is gonna sit down. So my question is gonna be if NYC had their own money, who would be on the bill?

SPEAKER_03:

Who's on the money?

SPEAKER_00:

If New York City, right? Let's set this up. If New York City had a dollar bill, or just a bill of.

SPEAKER_03:

Like a hundred, a hundred, a fifty, a twenty, or ten, a five, and a dollar. Who's on what?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm going max B, man.

SPEAKER_03:

We put max on a hundred? The wave.

SPEAKER_00:

It's only right in 2025 a hundred dollar bill is gonna be max bill.

SPEAKER_03:

The wave.

SPEAKER_00:

The 50, you know, I'll go biggie. You know, I gotta pay respect. 50, you know what I'm saying? Okay. Matter of fact, 50 cents going on a 50 bill.

SPEAKER_03:

On a$50 bill? 50 on the 50. 50 on the 50. I like that. I like 50 on the 50.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright, let's see.

SPEAKER_03:

Who's on the 20?

SPEAKER_00:

Hey, man. This is a little bit controversial. Let's see. Uh oh. Because there's so many greats in New York. There's a lot. There's a lot to choose from. I'm going Jalen Brunson, bro. We're bringing home the chip this year. He's going on a$20 bill. He gotta win first. As long as he wins first. Listen, hey, look, this is the most successful we've been in a long time. Back to back is what I mean.

SPEAKER_03:

That's true, but we still ain't win shit.

SPEAKER_00:

Shout out to Carmelo. That's my guy. Exactly. Like butt Brunson right now. Alright, let's go to it. Are we going down to like the$20 bill? Yeah,$10,$5, and 1. Uh-huh. Okay. For the$10 bill. Should I keep it in the sports or should I?

unknown:

It's New York.

SPEAKER_00:

It's just New York in general. Oh man. Hey, Derek Jita. Come on, man. Yeah. I'll give Derek Jita the$10 bill.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh-huh. I'm not mad at that.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright, number five. Yeah, on a$5 bill. Alright, let's see. Um, there's so many people. There's a lot.

SPEAKER_03:

And then look, don't forget the ladies, too.

SPEAKER_00:

Don't forget the ladies, too.

SPEAKER_03:

You put them on a five? That's all we're worth. That's even worth. Save the coins. All right, let's stop.

SPEAKER_00:

Man, I'll give Cardi B the the five. Cardi B. Cardi B the five because I'm about I'm gonna give respect to ladies. Yeah, exactly. She gets a little love. Let me get a little love. But she's from New York, so I gotta rep her.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. And now who you on the dollar?

SPEAKER_00:

Damn, this could who gets the lowest rank is kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_03:

But it's still currency.

SPEAKER_00:

It's probably the most used. Exactly. We're gonna go Eli Manning. Let's go, Eli Manning. Elizabeth, man. Two rings. I'm a Brady fan, but that hurt to say. Amen. Eli Eli Manning.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that Eli on the dollar bill. Yeah, man. I'm not mad at that.

SPEAKER_00:

So yeah, that's my one that's five, bro. Yeah, I like that. That's 100, 50, 22. It's a little controversial with the cardinal, you know, at the$5 bill, but I couldn't leave the ladies out. So I like that.

SPEAKER_03:

I like that. I like that. That was clean. That was clean. That was clean. I like that. Um, I'm trying to think. For the 100, honestly, I might say Jay. Jay could get the 100. Jay could get the 100.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

For what business wise, all that stuff. Jay could get the 100. I'm putting nozzle. The 50. His Nas is right there. He's moving up and stuff like that. I'm putting Nas on the 50. I'm putting, I'm still in one of his. I'm putting Jita on the 20. I'm putting Jita on the 20. Jita definitely gotta. Yeah, he wore number two, so it fits. Right, it fits. Yeah, Jita has to be on this somewhere. So Jita could be on the 20. On the 10. I'm gonna get that to Cardi. No, no, no, no, no. No. Cardi, no, no, no, no, no. Not Cardi. Lil' Kim. Thank you. We're gonna show Lil Kim some love. We're gonna show her some love. I was hoping he would have to be a little bit. Kim is the OG out here. Nikki too. Nikki's another one. Yeah. So I'm gonna put I'm gonna put Kim on the 10. On the five, I'm gonna put Stefan Mulberry. Because he's from he's from Brooklyn. He rep the Knicks and stuff like that. He had every Knicks game. So I'm gonna put him on the five. And on the$1 bill, Eric Adams, you get the$1 bill. We don't want no dollars. We don't want no$1 bills. So Eric Adams, you can be on the dollar. Once they phase it out, who's gonna care anyway? So Eric Adams, you get the dollar.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, Eric Adams, you get the dollar. There you go. That's for you. And that's Mike's top five. Yep. That's it. Mike's top five currency faces. Yep.

SPEAKER_03:

That's how we're doing it. That's how we doing it.

SPEAKER_02:

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03:

Alright. Let me see for you. Doo doo. If you could ha if you could have any animal protect you, what would it be and why? Hippo. Why? In the water, they're fast as fk.

SPEAKER_02:

On land, they're fast as five. Uh-huh. I think hippo is one of the strongest biding forces.

SPEAKER_03:

PSI.

SPEAKER_02:

Pressure?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh per square inch.

SPEAKER_02:

Per square inch. Hippo. And I mean, they seem very dorsile and they seem very calm and relaxed and you know, like cuddly. Nah, nah, nah, no.

SPEAKER_03:

Hungry hippos is a is a real thing. No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, your your favorite animal, they will destroy.

SPEAKER_03:

Easily.

SPEAKER_02:

Bears, tigers. Mm-hmm. I would love to see a hippo versus gorilla, though.

SPEAKER_03:

That'd be interesting.

SPEAKER_02:

Because the the force, actually, the force of a hippo against a gorilla.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm telling you that. Hold on.

SPEAKER_02:

That's interesting. Between a hippo and a gorilla. I just think the sheer force of a hippo.

SPEAKER_03:

A hippo will win in a fight due to his massive size, weight, and bow and powerful fight. Yeah. A hippo is about ten times larger and can weigh up to 18 times more than a gorilla with a much stronger bite force and thick armor-like skin.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so here we go with a self-proclaimed social media seg uh reel that we could use. How many men do you think would you need to fight a hippo?

SPEAKER_03:

No weapon? Just hands? The gorilla was weapons or hands? I think the gorilla was only hands, too. So if a gorilla is a hundred thousand. Was it hundred thousand or a hundred men? Was it a hundred? It ain't a hundred. A hundred men are doing nothing to a gorilla. I saw I saw You said less? You think 15 dudes?

SPEAKER_01:

No. What's that dude uh that was burning in the or he had like the water bottle that kept talking to face in the water? Ashen holes?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, him? Yeah, he ain't gonna do nothing. Nah, they too bro, they just brolic.

unknown:

Oh yeah, they want to give them a girl.

SPEAKER_03:

Gorillas are brolic and nimble.

SPEAKER_02:

Gorillas are brolic and nimble. And they're fast and they have good reflexes.

unknown:

You just need someone that's gonna take the bait to go in first.

SPEAKER_03:

So this is what they say. It said it would like he he it is agreeing with him. It says it would likely take a group of five to ten average men to have a reasonable chance of beating a gorilla, though the exact number is speculative. A single gorilla is significantly stronger, but a group can use strategy, numbers, and coordinated attacks to overwhelm it. The important factors would be the human's ability to act as a unit, the gorilla's type and temperament, and whether the humans have any tools or weapons. So are we talking about liberal New Yorkers or cornbreads? That's what I'm saying. I need some Southern dudes to do this. It can't be us. Like they carry the hay bales on their back.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. 340-pound dudes, something like that. Yeah. Like they walk a little bit and the entire body gets red, type of way.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03:

As soon as they you turn red. Yeah, we need them. Yeah, they got the big thick heads. Them big old country boys. Yeah. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02:

Probably like five of those. Could take out a gorilla.

SPEAKER_03:

So you got hippo, but hippo though is your animal of choice.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, hippo's my animal choice.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm picking a rat. A what? A rat. A rat? Mm-hmm. Most people are scared of rats when they see rats. That's true. So when they see a rat, ah, they run away. Out of here. Men and women. Cockroach. Yeah, even cockroaches. I'm gonna pick up a little rat. Word? I'm talking about a real rat, like an NYC rat. I'm talking one of them. Oh, with a Tim's the hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that walk on two legs like us. I'm talking one of them rats. Yes. I want one of those. Word, just something mad. Yeah, just simple. Just something that simple. Mad honeybeans for no reason. Like just a cicada outside your window during summertime. Just mad random stuff, yeah. Oh we got two more. We got two more? Two more. Oh my Jesus. Two more.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. I'm gonna ask the question. What's gay or walking up a hill or down a hill?

SPEAKER_03:

It's definitely down. As someone who lives in the Bronx and there's nothing but hills in the Bronx, walking downhill, especially when you pick up some momentum, you be looking crazy. Your arms start swinging, and you be you pick up the pace and you low key bouncing a little bit down the hill. It's like, nah, you can't walk down the hill, fam. Not like that. Uh-uh. You look crazy sometimes walking down the hill. Walking up a hill takes some determination. You know what I'm saying? You gotta arch your back and your, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_03:

I like that boy. I like that boy. Alright, let me see. And then we got one left, right? Mm-hmm. What's the difference between body wash and hand soap? Because ain't your hands a part of your body? Ain't your body a part of your hands? So, what's the difference between hand soap and body wash?

SPEAKER_02:

I think it has to do with the uh. I'm gonna try to get a little introspective on this one. I'm gonna try to put it in words, what's in my brain. So the liquid form doesn't have I don't want to say all the the lather material. Like a bar of soap has. Like a bar of soap feels like it makes you a lot cleaner than like body wash does. I don't know, growing up in the Caribbean, we all use bars of soap. Right. Like um, what's it the spring? Um Irish Spring? Irish Spring. We wash, we wash clothes in the Caribbean, in the river with bars of soap. In the river with bars of soap, and then you dry them on the stones.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Type of thing. But what was the question again?

SPEAKER_03:

What's the difference between hand wash or hand soap and body soap and body wash?

SPEAKER_02:

Body wash doesn't get you as clean as hand soap does. We're talking about the the the solid soap, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Nah, I'm talking about like the pump. Like you know, when you go. I'm out here talking about the hand soap. Yeah, which one? What's the difference between hand soap and body wash? I guess it's just a fact.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I guess it's just like a chemical makeup of it.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm about to look right now. Okay, it says.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know. I want to say chemical makeup.

SPEAKER_03:

It says hand soap and body wash are both cleansers, but body wash is generally formulated to be more moisturizing, while hand soap can be more potent and antibacterial for frequent small area use. I'm gonna say chemical. Mm-hmm. Chemical.

SPEAKER_02:

Where's the buzzer? I need a buzzer. We need a buzzer for that. Chemical.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, called it.

SPEAKER_02:

Because I'm thinking about it, I'm like, it's definitely a chemical. It's like uh dishwashing liquid and like detergent, and it's it's all cleaning. Cleaning stuff. Cleaning stuff. Right, right. The chemical makeup of each one of them is suited to whatever it is that they're washing.

SPEAKER_03:

And it makes sense to have more antibacterial stuff and hand stuff because you touch more stuff with your hands.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, that makes sense. Exactly. That makes sense. Science.

SPEAKER_02:

I gotta get like a little sponge up sound.

SPEAKER_03:

Word.

SPEAKER_02:

Which is worse, telling a guy bye-bye on the phone or waving hi-bye to a guy.

SPEAKER_03:

Being like bye-bye. See you later. Or being like, hey, ha. It is that one is wave. You can't wave. Don't wave out of me, fam. Don't wave out of me. What are you doing? What are you doing? Nah, nah. Come on. What could you pop? No. Nah. Nah, you can't. No, no, no, no. Nah, you can't do that, boy. If you take a girl to a ball game and you end up on the kiss cam, she gotta go. Is she obligated to kiss you? Yes. So if you No, she's gonna make both of us look stupid on social media.

SPEAKER_02:

Unless you want to deal with that. Do I want to deal with that? There you go. Who wants to deal with that?

SPEAKER_03:

Always. Always. Yeah. Why? And then niggas calling you ugly, girls calling you ugly. Life go down a spiral.

SPEAKER_02:

That's crazy. If you don't make the move, it's you know, that's a whole other bunch of names up here. You can't just sit there.

SPEAKER_03:

That's what I'm saying. You can't just sit there. So wait, you gotta be like hitch, basically, and you gotta go 90 and she gotta come the other 10? Yeah. You gotta go 400.

SPEAKER_02:

He's like go 400. What if you startle her and she pushes you and you fall? That's even worse. What do you do?

SPEAKER_03:

Right. Oh, it was it was planned. The stadium knew already. That's why they put us up there. Duh. What if she gets up and she walks away? Like, what are you doing? You can't talk to her no more than that. You can't. You can't talk to her no more as that. You can't. Yeah, you can't talk to her. You can't come back from that. Right, exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02:

Or you take that reel and you turn it into a million-dollar business.

unknown:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03:

Ooh. That's a possibility. You end up on the balloon shit. Yeah. See who's gonna pop the balloon for you? Hey, man. Now you're thinking. Or you can start your own. Who can reject you the fastest? As soon as you walk out. Nah, that gotta hurt your ego. As soon as you walk out, you just hit like gunshots? Nah. I can never do that balloon shit. That shit will hurt. You don't get a chance to even talk to nobody. You just come out. It hurts the soul. Like, nah, no, thank you.

SPEAKER_02:

Alright, so the next one is the human nature. Alright, so this is a segment of the podcast where we ask human questions to human beings. And since there's the two of us, we're gonna keep it here. Mm-hmm. Um I'm gonna start. No, because you asked me on the on the ra randomizer. Yeah. So I'm gonna start on this one. So this one is gonna be how do you recharge when life feels heavy?

SPEAKER_03:

Music. Just being able to sit down, throwing on, throwing on whatever playlists I got that I feel like being in in that moment, and then just zoning out.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. Do you want to treat this like uh you answer, I answer type of thing?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, we'll go back and forth.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, we'll go back and forth like I you answer first and then I'll answer if you're asking. And I ask a question, right? Exactly. It's a lot of confusion, okay.

SPEAKER_03:

So it's a lot of confusion. But yeah, I I I probably would go music for me, because music just helps keep me even killed, and the music can speak to my mood more than anything else you do. Really? Mm-hmm. Nice. That's he being an introvert too.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, music puts you in your in a zone. What did Eminem say? Music can control your emotions.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, easily. It's about walking around with headphones everywhere I go. Sometimes the headphones aren't even on.

SPEAKER_02:

Just don't talk to me.

SPEAKER_03:

But if you see headphones, most of the time people be like, okay, no. Yeah, leave this guy alone. Leave him alone. Exactly. Or talk to yourself a little bit. You spit on yourself once. Something crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

So you do music. For me, it's playing Minecraft. Um people think it's a kid's game. No, it's not. Minecraft is one of the scariest games that I've played, especially here in hardcore mode. Jesus. But I started doing um the pandemic, like when we were doing school online, it was like a getaway. Coding. Yeah, it was like a getaway from like everything else where you just kind of put yourself in like a world where it's you and your friends and you guys are building stuff, exploring. Right. Plus the music is I actually still listen to the music, the the soundtrack for you have to sleep. Yo, you put that on to just relax and it just uh even you gotta make you calm. You put on you put on like a fire, if you have a fireplace, you just play it in the background, just maybe do some work or relax. Yeah, it's it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_03:

I like that. What's something that you unlearned as an adult that you once believed to be true?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, this is this is controversial. Yeah, this is more like a recent realization just because I decided to take someone's advice and just do my own research. One of the things that I well, not unlearned, but oh man, this is something you gotta keep to yourself as well. The first slave owner in the in the Americas was a black man named Anthony Johnson. The first documented slave owner in the Americas was Anthony Johnson. And then you learn about like the reason the Republican Party was was created and what they wanted to do. They wanted to stop the expansion of slavery into the West because the Democrats wanted to bring their slaves over to the West. And that the the um Republican Party was created because they were like, we don't wanna we don't want people to be enslaved, we want everyone to be free. That's also why the Civil War was fought. Um bunch of white people died so black people could be free. There's just a lot of stuff that I've been like really paying more attention to recently. Just like let me see what else is out there because sometimes we just live in our own bubble and we don't really like to look at other things because of how it may make us feel. Right. But like just learning those few things, you kind of have to unlearn that the party that you supported all this time is kind of still in the same mindset, kind of a little bit, sort of, maybe like always, and things can be blurry, but when you look at the origin of a the the origin story of a lot of things, um it's very interesting to see where it started and how it is where it ends up now. Where it's right now, and like how things kind of things change and and the reason one thing started, and then what certain people did and they they did with it, and like and then um I didn't know that KKK was started by Democrats.

SPEAKER_03:

But it's not it see it's it's not all right, like yeah, they were started by Democrats, but it's not those Democrats of today.

SPEAKER_02:

So that that's that's the that's the other thing as well. Like, and that's why I say like you find find out where it started and where everything is right now and how things have flipped.

SPEAKER_03:

Like Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. That's one of the things they always say. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. See, he we would have agreed, and it's like, no, dog, he probably would have been a Democrat nowadays. Probably, but y'all switch parties and stuff like that. It it's one of those where if you really, really get deep into American politics and how the sides are drawn, it's a lot. And it's honestly it's too much it's too much information. It is, it is.

SPEAKER_02:

It's it's it's a lot of like I I've um in in college, I actually volunteered for the Democratic Party out in Suffolk County in Long Island. So like we we strong, very, very strong Democrats, but like you learn some stuff about a Republican Party, and you're like, yeah, so that's interesting. Well, it's one of those things too learn.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, if you was to take the I the ideas of Republicans, the ideals that they stand for, and the things that and that Democrats stand for, and you just put it blind and you didn't say this was Republican, this was Democrats. We'd have no fucking idea. Well, no, exactly. And you just put it out there, you gave it to somebody. Which ones do you side with, which ones don't you? And they will call themselves the staunchest Democrat in the world, and they will be picking things for the Republican side.

SPEAKER_02:

So that that's the other thing. When you when you learn, and then you go to liberal and conservative um ideals, if you had to put liberal um thoughts on this side and conservative thoughts on this side, the amount of people who would choose conservative without even knowing. Exactly. Don't even realize it. And that's another thing that I realized, because I was like, what? Because I'm not from here. So after a while, I was like, what is the difference between a liberal and conservative? And then you realize majority of people will will be conservative whether they like it or not. Do you like your family?

SPEAKER_03:

Especially, especially if you're religious. If you if you come from any kind of religious background, a lot of the times you're gonna find yourself agreeing with Republican ideals before you do democratic ideals. A lot of the times.

SPEAKER_02:

Which is such a weird, a weird notion to have.

SPEAKER_03:

It is, but it's not. It's just you know what it is, it's the people who's at the top and who you see that represents what and what. Because at the end of the day, both parts the only thing that matters to both parties is green. And that's money. It is money. The only thing that matters to Democrats and to Republicans.

SPEAKER_02:

That's why, you know what, you know what is one of the funniest videos I have seen. Is a video of I think it was uh Jimmy Carter's wet uh funeral when Obama and Trump were giggling behind Kamala Harris. Yeah. And that was like a whole big thing. It's like, it's like, it's it's like music, it's like sports. Your rivals in front of everyone else, but once those doors close, everyone's friends. And you never know. You never know. Yeah, so that that's one of those things I kind of had to I I don't know if it's like unlearned, but like I guess unlearned in the sense of don't be so closed-minded to a lot of things. Like it it may be an uncomfortable truth, it may be something you don't want to hear, but like just I know for me, one thing, one thing I unlearned is just do your own research.

SPEAKER_03:

A lot of times, especially growing up as kids, you listen to your teachers, you listen to to the grown-ups around you, as you should. Yeah. But as you get older and you search for knowledge and things of your own, you start to understand, like, oh, maybe they don't even know what they're talking about. Like, I'm a firm believer. If you are new to this five, you've never seen me before or heard of me before, like I'm a firm believer Helen Keller ain't do the goddamn thing. Ain't no blind, deaf. We ain't never seen no one with all the senses gone, but she couldn't talk, but she got quotes. Make it make sense. She can't talk, but she got quotes. Like that kind of stuff, and and in school, they push that on you. First, second grade. Helen Keller, she was special because she did X, she ain't do a goddamn thing. She ain't do nothing. I'm one of those, I mean, you know, dinosaurs ain't real. Sorry, dinosaurs are not real. It's bullshit. So where does the oil come from? The oil comes from the earth. Yeah, the oil comes from the earth, but ain't no bones down there. Ain't no one, ain't no bones. There was no asteroid that blew them up, nothing like that. They don't find, listen, they literally do not find the first bones until the 1800s. Literally, till the 1800s, there's some British dude that randomly found a bone in Africa. So ain't nothing on the pyramids that tell us, hey, we done found some bones walking around. This could have been from some other creature. There was nothing in the caves, nothing. It would have been on the wall, wouldn't it? They would have written something down. They wrote everything else down. They wrote how they had sex, they wrote what they ate, they wrote everything else down. But they ain't come across no dinosaur bones, no nothing.

SPEAKER_02:

And there was no dinosaurs around, I mean, Jesus time as well. That's a whole other conversation. They still won't give you an exact answer for that. We can have on another day. Look, what's in Antarctica? Oh, the ice wall?

SPEAKER_03:

No one goes to Antarctica.

SPEAKER_02:

What's in the ice wall itself?

SPEAKER_03:

Who go who do you know that goes to Antarctica successfully and comes back? Not even the U.S. The last people who tried was the Germans with Hitler in them, and all of them disappeared. Hollywood tells you stuff in real life. Transformers. Where's Transformers at? In Antarctica. Yep. Bob Dillard's up there. King Kong's up there. Hollywood mirrors real life. That's all I'm saying.

unknown:

Black mirror.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. So that's what I had to unlearn. Just because someone tells you something, that doesn't mean you shouldn't do your own research. And find out for yourself. It's the same as well.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Because you you live, because everyone else is doing it. You're like, I'm just gonna stick with that side. I'm gonna do things doing research.

SPEAKER_03:

It's a group thing. Yeah. Like if you if you really think Helen Keller actually did that shit, really think about it. Think about the blind, the deaf, and the mute people you see. Do you think that any of them, and she the only one, and we didn't get one since, and technology got better, everything got better, and we have nothing like her since.

SPEAKER_02:

Someone lied to us.

SPEAKER_03:

Exactly. Someone lied to us. She ain't do a goddamn thing. Oh. Alright. So uh your question.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, what motivates you to go after your goals? Money.

SPEAKER_03:

No, let me stop. That is part of it, because nobody wants to be poor. So definitely money. But um for me, just the fulfillment of actually completing something. Yeah, a lot of times people when you start something. We had Zoe up here, and Zoe was like, I start this, then I start that, and I start that. And that used to be me for a while. I start this one, then I'll move on to that. And then, oh yeah, I'm gonna start this too, and then oh, I forgot about this, so I gotta go back and finish that. So it's like, yo, when you could take your time and actually finish, uh, finish something and feel good about it, that would be for me.

SPEAKER_02:

That's I guess instead of saying money, we could just say financial freedom. The ability to not have a nine-to-five, but be able to still work. Right. So, like, for example, uh this podcast takes off, which we definitely plan to do with everything that we're doing right now. Record once, twice a week. You have your editing team, marketing team, social media team. Do anything that we do is I guess everything else. And then vacation time. Yep. And then travel, do food stuff, family. Right. You know, I guess it's just it's just the motivation is finding a way to spend more time with family.

SPEAKER_03:

While still keeping the money.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Being able to make the money, having your money work for you. That's the biggest thing. Making your money work for you, not you working for your money. Precisely. I'm with you. I'm with you. What's the best way to support you when you're going through a hard time? I guess presence. Be there.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, just be there. Because it I mean, it uh the hard time is such a broad statement as well. Mm-hmm. Be there. Or like even not in in person, maybe it's like the action or the suggestion of like, hey, if I could be there with you then Can I help you out? Right, right. You know, I I would, but is there anything that I could do? Like, I guess mindfulness as well would be um a a big part of this. Just being mindful of what the situation is. And uh, you know, tentative. And like even if you know you cannot physically be there in person and be like, you know, let's just check up. Right. Yeah, what you do? Are you feeling okay? You good? I'm not mad. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03:

That's why I say I'm the opposite. Leave me alone. I'll let you know when you can come help me out. Until I tell you, just leave me be. Yeah, because people can make it worse because they don't really know what's going on. You don't want to tell them because it's just a lot of mental, yeah. Right. But if I do tell you, then that's when you can you can try to help me out. But until that moment, just please, just leave me alone. I'll I'll I'll get through it. I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. So I'll uh here's another one. What is something small that brings you joy? Watching cooking shows.

SPEAKER_03:

By British Bake Off. I love Tournament of Champions. I like the baking stuff too, but like I like watching Tournament of Champions, a guy's grocery games, because it's just random stuff, and it's like you got 30 minutes, make a meal.

SPEAKER_02:

So like when you watch Kitchen type of madness.

SPEAKER_03:

When you watch Tournament of Champions, it's literally a thing called the randomizer. So it'll be a protein, uh, a vegetable, what you gotta cook on, um, and like a whammy ingredient. So like for it'll be like the protein broccoli skillet. Right. And then the whammy ingredient will be like hibiscus. And then the flavor profile has to be sweet and sour.

unknown:

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03:

Right. And you got 35 minutes to come up with this dish. You see, those people are true geniuses. And then you serve it blindly to three judges, and then they have to taste it and determine if the food was good or not based on a description of the people and stuff. So for me, watching cooking shows, I literally will watch Guy's Grocery Game and watch a whole season in a day, just sit there and just vibe out because every episode is different. There's nothing that's the same. So for me, cooking shows, Food Network, yes.

SPEAKER_02:

Thinking about that gave me a headache. Yeah, 30 minutes.

unknown:

Is this one?

SPEAKER_03:

Kitchen Nightmare.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Kitchen Nightmares for sure.

SPEAKER_03:

Or even when they do like the Harry Potter bacon joints. I saw the entire season. They got a new one. They got a new season. Yeah, they got a new season. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Season two.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. What was it? The one they made, the spider. Like a lot of that stuff, and that takes talent. Like that's not something that's easy. Anybody could cook, but cooking well, that's not easy to do. And the stuff that these people do in such a short amount of time, because not all of them are chefs either. Like when you watch guy grocery games, sometimes it'll be a fireman at a firehouse somewhere that they find and they'll put on the show. And then they turn into a cook and they get their career started. So like that's the other. Yeah. Oh, that's nice. Mm-hmm. So for me, cooking shows, what you got?

SPEAKER_02:

I completely forgot what it was. Uh oh, something small that brings you joy. Uh watching reaction videos. So, like, my favorite reaction video group right now is um In the Clutch, ENT. They're from Houston, Texas. Um, and they do a lot of like try not to laugh.

SPEAKER_03:

Got it.

SPEAKER_02:

So something that we're gonna have to do at some point. Start as well.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm awful at that.

SPEAKER_02:

But we can do it. But watching, watching reaction videos, watching like uh I watch a lot of football stuff as well.

SPEAKER_03:

Um wait, which football? Soccer or football? The real one. So American football.

SPEAKER_02:

No, the real one with the with the French spelling.

SPEAKER_03:

You watch soccer.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, football. Yeah, football. Football. The reason why it's called FIFA. Um I watch like 20 20 Premier League players versus one Serie R player type of thing. Right. So it's it's stuff like that. Like small is is stuff like that. Well, like if you if you want to get even smaller than that, um I guess peace.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, if I got away from it, let me see if I got like something really, really like something really, really small.

SPEAKER_02:

Super just like just basic.

SPEAKER_03:

Peace, thoughtfulness, and honestly, and I know I said this is my scary element, but like, yo, having water around is amazing. Like the drink? Like just some fresh water? Yeah, yeah, like something small like that. Or like half like when you get a cold cup of juice or soda, like when that hits you, you'd be like, look at all that. Yeah. Clean them up. It's little things like that. Yeah, little things like that. It's like, yeah, this bit this is gonna be a good day. Yeah, it's gonna be a good day today. All right, uh was it? What number was it?

unknown:

18.

SPEAKER_03:

This is the last one. Oh, yeah, last one. Ah, here we go. If you could pick any actor to play you in a movie, who would it be and why? Ah, fuck it. I'll go Jason Satham. Well, we put some color on him. We spray paint them. Some Robert Downey Jr. Playing a dude, playing a dude, playing the dude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm trying to think. Who would that be? Some uh Jason Satham and like um Jason Statham Tropic Thunder type of thing.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh no, you should have picked Vin Diesel. He put a beard on Vin Diesel, but there you go. It's a lot of family. Too much family. Too much family. Too much family.

SPEAKER_02:

He and the uh Red Bull guy.

SPEAKER_03:

The Red Bull didn't bring the Red Bull guy.

SPEAKER_02:

That's it. But the Red Bull guy had stuff on him. He gets out of car.

SPEAKER_03:

Pick him in the family, and the Mustang. That's all you need. Oh, listen. Trying to think, who would I pick? If I'm going base off looks, Forrest Whitaker. Look at Forrest Whitaker. He got some good. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna pick Forrest Whitaker.

SPEAKER_02:

What's a guy from um uh that new movie of Ryan Coogler?

SPEAKER_03:

He was a big dude. He was at the door. He was in D12. Not D12. Um in Michael B. Jordan. No, no. Nah, what's Homeboy name? You can say Michael B. Jordan. You're talking about dude that was in um in 8 Mile. Yeah, yeah. The big dude. He was ATL as well, or no? No, no, no. He's not ATL. He was in um the show with The Rock on HBO. I forgot homeboy's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a good actor. I rock with him. We gotta get his name Omar Benson Miller. Yeah, because he was in Hustler's and he was in uh the 50 Cent movie, Get Richard Dodge Ryan. Yeah, he's not like I'll rock with him too. Yeah, he's cool. He could work, he could work. Yeah, those would be my two. What's his name again?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh Omar Benson Miller.

SPEAKER_03:

Omar Benson Miller. Shout out to you, sir. You you talented. Yeah, you you give it a big thing.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's it's cool when you can get the big roles and get in big productions, but people don't really know your name. They they they they have an idea of what's like you a good actor.

SPEAKER_03:

I know you.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, like I know you. But it's not like that must be a great balance to be in. Mm-hmm. Where you make the money, but you could be famous, but not famous.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're famous money, but you're not famous. Yeah, you can still go shop in the supermarket, go to the store and go.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, like, don't you look like I'd be like, no.

SPEAKER_03:

I might look like him, but I don't know. Who's that? I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_02:

Like, I'd rather be an Omar. I'd rather have I'd rather have Anthony Mackey money, but be Omar Benson.

SPEAKER_03:

Copy that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I want that freedom to do as I please.

SPEAKER_02:

So make like B slash A-less money, but you're like a D-less person.

SPEAKER_03:

D-less person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool with me. Because I ain't gotta go nowhere, yeah. I ain't gotta go nowhere. That balance would be fire. Alright, uh. Oh. And this is your last one, right? Oh, that's it.

SPEAKER_02:

That was mine. Because we had we had the same number, too. So we done.

SPEAKER_03:

We done. So we gotta get to uh what's the last five?

SPEAKER_02:

So we're gonna go into the reflection round. Zoe reflection round. You got some lightning?

SPEAKER_03:

We're shhh all that mess.

unknown:

Yeah, I gotta hit it out.

SPEAKER_02:

What time is it? Damn, 9.17.

SPEAKER_03:

Damn, oh yeah, oh my god. Catch that 9.30 train. We're all right, let's hurry this up. We got five minutes. We're almost to the hour mark. Yeah, 60 plus.

SPEAKER_02:

I was like, so we almost we're gonna do some stuff I'll probably cut in the beginning. Oh no, once we finish these five questions. The stuff with you, I'm definitely gonna send that to you as a clip.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, that's gonna be hilarious.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So I'm gonna send that to you as a clip. I appreciate you for coming. You pull it up next week, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02:

That's that, man. Yes, next week. All right, man. Get home safe. Get home safe. Is it? Yeah, it's good. Alright, so reflection round time, more lightning. Uh the last question did I ask you, or you asked me?

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Uh, you asked me first, so let me I gotta ask you. Uh-huh. Alright, hold up. I'm in the wrong thing. Here we go. Alright. What's one thing life has taught you recently? We're gonna do a callback, do your research.

SPEAKER_02:

Do your research. Don't just take everything as face value because the internet will lie to you in every facet that it can lie to you. Yep. It will lie to you. Yep. What about yourself?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh one thing life has taught me recently trust yourself. Trust yourself sometimes. There's not there's nothing wrong in believing in yourself and trusting yourself. Even when things don't look like the most common and things may not be as they seem, trust yourself and trust your gut. And things will work out usually for the for the most part.

SPEAKER_02:

I I will second that. The reason we're here right now with this podcast.

SPEAKER_03:

Trust yourself. Trust yourself and what you believe in. Like that's for sure, for sure. Go ahead. Uh number two. If you could have dinner with one person from history, who would it be and why?

SPEAKER_02:

Um I know we had this conversation for episode one. So I'll do a call back to episode one.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm gonna give you a different one.

SPEAKER_02:

That was one that was the one we did of uh Gil with Gil, yeah. NY the artist. Um but for this I would do Man of Food I'll do Judas. And be like, what were you thinking? Like, who put you up to it? The Sadducees. There's always more story. There's always more to it.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, remember, he was jealous at first. The jealousy is what got him at first, and then they offered him the money to go along with it, but then he ended up throwing the money away because he felt so awful for what he did. But all of it stemmed from jealousy from the other disciples.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. But so with even with that, like I would want to hear it. What are you jealous about? I would want to hear it from them. Right. Like, you know what they say from the horse's mouth, like directly from, you know, like what was going on, right? Can't die. Like, what are you doing? Like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_03:

All right. Anyways. Um, I'm trying to think. One person from history to have dinner with. I probably would pick Frederick Douglass. Just what was it like during your time? What happened when you remarried? You remarried a white woman. You was married to a black woman, you remarried a white woman. What made you do that? Don't don't tell Dr. Umar that. Yeah, well, he knows. Dr. Umar know already. But it's one of those things, what happened? What made you switch? Yeah. And like, how was it being close to the presidents? Like, you were a direct line to presidents and stuff like that. So I I would love to talk, sit down and talk with Frederick Douglass and just see how his mind was and how he thought. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And and what's the difference between dating a black woman and dating a white woman? What was back then? Like fucking.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, we know back then that what that was. Yeah. You know, what was that? Right. In the 1800s.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

That's a lot. That's heavy. Especially with the hair he had. It's crazy. Al Shofton and Don King. Before Don King, that's right. They sold from you, Frederick Douglass. They took from you. Um, what song do you listen to when no one's around?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh currently? I don't give a shit. But damn. I don't really have uh a song I listen to when no one's around. Um I think I'm gonna do a callback to my previous answer on episode one, which was I'd say not song, but artist Olivia Rodrigo. I'll do a call back to Olivia Rodrigo. I think she's one of those. Actually, my favorite singer is Sam Smith. My favorite singer in today's climate. He still made music. You know, he kind of they said he kind of lost his mind for a bit with all this, and then he he he pulled the demilato and went normal again. Okay. Or normal, because there's no such thing. No such thing, exactly. He went back to what society deems as normal. Copy. Okay. After after do after going either, as they say, going off the rails the way he did. All right. Now he's back to before. Um, I think he has like a a new song, a few new songs, but like Okay. Yeah, so either either Olivia or Sam Smith.

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I'm trying to think for me. I don't say I don't really have a song per se. Like an artist. I'm trying to think of somebody else. I said Genevieve before. Uh I guess uh I listen to a lot of white soul music from the 70s, like the BGs and Samantha Sang and stuff like that. The players, Ambrosia. Good stuff. Yeah. So maybe maybe that, I guess. I'm I'll and I wouldn't be ashamed to say I listened to that though. That's the thing. Because like I listen to that openly, yeah, all the notes, all that. So I don't know. It's nothing really I would hide per se, but I guess that would be You're that you listen to. I guess that would shock people or surprise people. Like you took my headphones off me while I was listening to music and you put them on. Whoa, whoa, I ain't no raining. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy, easy, buddy. Easy. I said the BGs. Now you can't tell by the way I use my walk up. Yeah. You'll hear that. You'll hear that. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Uh, last question. What's a piece of advice you give your future self?

SPEAKER_02:

Advice? Mm-hmm. Um you know, we ask people these these questions, and I don't know how the fuck they answer it.

SPEAKER_03:

Especially in the moment, too.

SPEAKER_02:

Advice do you give your future self?

SPEAKER_03:

I think I can go while you think on one.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, I think for me it would be to trust myself earlier. There was a lot of things, whether that be money-wise or like career-wise or things like that, where it's like my intuition ultimately led me down the right path, but I didn't I didn't follow it for being like, I don't want to say scared, but you know, sometimes you just don't things hinder your decision making. So if I was to go back to my younger self, it would be, hey man, trust yourself and go find the notes. It's older. It's older?

SPEAKER_02:

Future self.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, future self. Same thing, even future self. Trust yourself. Yeah the stuff you didn't do in the past shaped you now. Yeah. Cool. You learn from your mistakes. Now trust yourself. I'm gonna it would be it would be continue to trust yourself.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I'm gonna piggyback up for that because it has to do with the podcast as well. Um, it's all gonna work out.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

It's all gonna work out.

SPEAKER_03:

If you put your head down and you work, it it'll work itself out again.

SPEAKER_02:

So eventually you gotta just give up and just follow what life is trying to tell you to do.

SPEAKER_03:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02:

And then eventually to work out. So a letter to your future self is it happened the way it happened for a reason.

SPEAKER_03:

Work. Yeah. Work and work. That's my work, work, and work. Consistency. Keep working.

SPEAKER_02:

All right, so that is the end of this. Let's see, an hour seven. I think we did uh This was good. We did pretty good.

SPEAKER_03:

This was good. This is your chance to get to know who we are a little bit. Just a little inside looking to us. I mean, you got any shout outs and stuff before we get out of here?

SPEAKER_02:

Shout outs. Um I want to just. Well, this is episode five, so I wanna definitely thank you, Mike, for doing this with me. Um definitely thank Gil, ENY the artist, for being the first guest and now you know partaking in this adventure with us. Um you know Chris was here. You're gonna see him on this. Yep. Just thank him for being here. Thanks Siggy for coming for episode three, thanks Zoak for coming in for episode two. Yes. And to all the people who have said they really like the format. They really like like my cousin from back home said he likes what he sees and he don't like shit.

SPEAKER_03:

I've gotten the same thing from people. He don't like he don't like shit.

SPEAKER_02:

And he's like, well, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_03:

But they've been enjoying it. Pleasant surprises, yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Someone told me my voice is very like common. I think Gil told me that yesterday, like we were just speaking, and he was like, Yeah, it's just like the I've I have like a very common presence. Like you chill. Yeah. So just you know, shout-outs and thanks and blessings to everyone.

SPEAKER_03:

Same, same on this side, ditto to every guest who we've had so far. Uh thank you to you, Amir, for asking me to pull up and be on this. I wasn't gonna ask anyone else. This is your brain child. So I appreciate you trusting me to be here to work on this. And then I'm I'm shouting out my family and friends too. There's a lot of people that hold me down, that allow me to do this and allow me to be who I am.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So thank you to every single one of y'all. Y'all know who y'all are. If I named every one of y'all, that'll take an extra minute.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, no, we gotta get out here.

SPEAKER_03:

And we have to go.

SPEAKER_02:

My mom actually shares all our reels on Facebook.

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You see? Yeah, so it's just love. Thank you to every family member, every friend who reposts, who shares, who's helping us grow this thing organically, and that actually support us and that and that rock with us. And just stay tuned for for what this, for what this is gonna be. Oh, yeah. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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If you guys enjoy what you see, if you like what you hear, then subscribe, like, comment, let us know what you think.

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Tell somebody else to watch it too. Tell them, put it under the barbershop. Right. TVs. Right. Go to the laundromat and take the remote from the lady that be doing the clothes. She ain't watching nothing but um novellas. She's not even there. Right. And that'll gordo elaflaka. They can watch. Take the remote. Put us on. Help us out. We out of here, yellow. Love.