April 14 - 20

Here are the scriptures for this week's podcast:

April 14 - Luke 23: 13-25

April 15 - Matthew 27: 27-31

April 16 - Luke 23: 26-34

April 17 - Luke 23: 35-43

April 18 - Mark 15: 33-41

April 19 - John 19: 38-42

April 20 - Matthew 27: 62-66

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:18

Welcome to Flip Devotional the Podcast, where each week Martha Shannon, the author of Flip Devotional The Book, and Steve Shannon discuss the readings from the week. If you haven't gotten Flip Devotional the Book, it is still available on Amazon Barnes Noble, a little pricier than I think it should be. You can get the ebook on Barnes and Noble for just $9.99. And I'm now posting the scriptures that we are going over on the podcast thingy. So when you pull up the podcast, all the scriptures are there for each day. So you could pull those up ahead of time. And you could read through them and then listen to the podcast. Or you could read one, listen to that day, read the next one, listen that day. You know, there's so many different ways you could do it. But those who don't have the book, I want you to be able to read the scriptures for yourself. Because that's really that was the whole purpose of writing this book, was to get people reading their Bible themselves. And I know people struggle to do that. They struggle to know what to read, how much to read. So if you want to join us in that way, it is very available for you. Um would love to hear if people are uh enjoying this. Um I did get to hear from a friend last night who said she, hey Amanda, um loves listening to it, that she is learning um a lie about the Bible that she didn't know, which again is that's the whole point of Steve and I doing this podcast is to just share our little bit of wisdom and thoughts and to get you all thinking. Um so welcome. We are gonna get started. We are doing April 14th through April 20th, so kind of in the middle of the Easter story and all that's going on the whole month of April. The scriptures are all about Easter. So April 14th, it's Luke 23, 13 through 25. And this is when Jesus comes before Pilate and Herod continued. So last week um was when he was brought in uh to them, and um Herod and Pilate became friends.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Yeah, went to Pilate, then went to Herod, is now back to Pilate.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

And they're they're they're kind of teaming up. Um so here we are, still still with Pilate. Um at the beginning it says Pilate called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people. I'm like, so who didn't he call?

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Correct. That's gonna cover everybody.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

All right, we are all there together. So he calls them all in, and he's like, uh you brought me this man. I don't see any reason he deserves death. He's like, I'll punish him and release him. And the crowd was not okay with that.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Right, and punish him for what?

SPEAKER_00 3:58

I I think he was just gonna punish him because the people thought the people wanted him to be killed. And so Pilot is giving them a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Okay. Yeah, good very well.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

I think he's just like, okay, I'll, you know, I was a school teacher, and there were times when some kid got in trouble and someone was like, oh, he should be put in in school suspension for the day. And the principal or whoever would say, uh, okay, how about just during your class?

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

And you get a break from him, he gets a break from you, and uh, because he really doesn't deserve more than that.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

So I that's kind of how I feel like Pilate is.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

Like, all right, all right, I'll do I'll give him something just to appease you.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

But and again, he's accused by the chief priests, the rulers, of inciting the people to rebellion. You know. And I guess you could say he was inciting the people to think about their faith differently, but he wasn't inciting the people against Rome, right? Or even the chief priests or rulers. He he held them accountable. He told the chief priests, right, and all that stuff. But, you know, I guess they figured rebellion is going to get Pilate's attention.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Right, right. And so they um apparently they had this deal where you could swap prisoners.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

Yeah, and it's not here, but other I think in other gospels, it's at the Passover, they would release one prisoner. I never know what happened to that prisoner.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

I mean, it was released to an angry mob, which wouldn't be good. Uh just release.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

The the mob is so angry at Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, just release the prisoner. Like so, like, are am I incentivized to break the law the weeks before Passover? There's a chance I'll be released.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

So Yeah, yeah. But it would be interesting if we had information on what happened to Barabbas.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

Because like, was he changed? Did he realize who Jesus was? Did he, you know, did he go to the crucifixion?

SPEAKER_01 6:33

Yeah, yeah. And he had been thrown in prison for an insurrection in the city. Right? And for murder. But an insurrection. An insurrection is rebellion.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Yeah. Yeah. And so again, the crowd keeps saying, crucify him, and he says, says for the third time he spoke to them. Why? What crime has this man committed? And he still says, you know, I I find no reason.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:10

He says, again, I'll punish him and release him. And and they just keep shouting and pushing, and he finally is like, okay, fine. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

He released Barabbas. And he it says, surrender Jesus to their will. So, you know.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

Yeah, go ahead. I've had enough, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:37

So Jesus has been arrested, um technically accused. So the next step is April 15th. Um, Matthew 27, 27 through 31. So a short little passage. And it's just all the mocking.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Which was so unnecessary.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Like he was has been arrested. He's everyone knows what his fate's gonna be. Why could they not move straight to that? Yeah. But it's like they played this little game.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

Yeah. Hail King of the Jews, they spit on him, you know, gave him is this for the yeah, a scarlet robe.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

A twisted crown of thorns.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

And it says they set it on his head. I can't imagine they gently set it on his head.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

Right.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

So, and you know, the crown of thorns, I could I didn't know this. Uh, we had the opportunity to go to Paris some years ago, and Notre Dame Cathedral was closed because of the fire. They were still rebuilding it. You could go outside. There's a big crowd outside anyway, but you couldn't go in because it was still being but on our flight home, the guy in front of me was watching a movie about the fire at Notre Dame Cathedral, um, and it had English subtitles, so I could follow along and read it and watch the movie at his expense. Have not found that movie here yet, Netflix or someplace else, but it's worth watching. But in the movie, I didn't realize this, Notre Dame Cathedral, they believe they have the actual Crown of Thorns. Wow. And I think when it was, some king bought it for a huge sum of money uh as a relic. Obviously, if you could get the Crown of Thorns, why wouldn't you? Um and uh it was actually locked in a secure place, and they had a replica out that you could then see if you went inside. You saw the replica, not the actual, because that was too valuable, could be stolen. Um, and in the movie, unrelated to the reading, the guy who knew where it was in the combination was outside of Paris at a meeting, and the city was just shut down, locked up, all the little streets and such couldn't get around. And part of the story is him getting to Notre Dame as in time as it's burning to get the Crown of Thorns out. Wow. Which he did. So Notre Dame Cathedral believes they have the Crown of Thorns purchased by the King of France some year.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

All right. So if any of our listeners have any idea what this movie is or how it can be what the name of it is, um, and how it's like the fire at Notre Dame or something. We can watch it. Um let us know.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

Yeah. But back to this mocking again, spitting, hitting, abusing. This happened at a Sanhedrin, the chief, you're right, the chief priest did the same very similar things to him, prophesies who said he knew all this stuff.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

So Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

You know.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

Yeah. And during the Easter season, it's probably the only time we read some of these scriptures. And again, because we know the end of the story, we often breeze over some of these parts. Um, one, we don't like to read them. We don't like to think about Jesus being mocked and having a crown of thorns put on his head and stripped and beaten and all these things. We we don't like that. Um we know how it ends. So we just often jump to the end and go, well, you know, all this happened, but but you know, he he was ri he was risen from the dead.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

And there was the resurrection. He he did end up with his father, and everything ended up fine. Like it's it's a good ending. Um, but I also think it's just really important to realize what Jesus went through. Um, and it's not like he didn't feel these things.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Right. Yeah. I mean, he bled like anybody else. He was humiliated like anyone else, you know, he was beat and bruised, and you know, so yeah, he suffered immensely before the cross.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Before the cross.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Which brings us to April 16th, uh, Luke 23, 26 through 34. And um, this is the crucifixion.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

And other gospels, real quick, back on that.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

There's some gospels where he was whipped as well.

unknown 12:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

So I mean it's unbelievable suffering.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Yes. Yes. And for having done nothing wrong.

SPEAKER_01 12:55

Nothing wrong.

SPEAKER_00 12:57

But having it done to him because of all the wrong that we've done.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

Yes. And last week, your will to the Lord, not mine.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Yeah. So um April 16th and April 17th are the crucifixion. So it's divided into two days. Luke 23 starts in 26 and and goes to 43 for the the two days. Um the first part is when the soldiers lead him, they're going up to the uh Golgotha.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Thank you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Skull, mountain, you know, that's what it was called. It must look like a skull. And that's where the crucifixions were held.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

And they they seize Simon from Cyrene, who was on his way in from the country and put the cross on him and made him carry it behind Jesus. Just, I mean, I can just sit with that for a minute because this poor guy, it's like, I don't know, you're coming home from the grocery and you're trying to get your stuff in, you're trying to get where you need to go. And someone comes in, oh, oh, hey, no, put all that down here. You need to do this. Like, like, did he even know what was going on?

SPEAKER_01 14:22

Yeah. And there's no indication, it doesn't say he did, but it was a Roman soldier, and you know, they used the word soldier, but um, obviously they were soldiers.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

I'm not gonna say no.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

Right. And they were really police as well. They had dual function, you know, that you know, they they they kept the peace, so to speak. Um, but yeah, so Simon's gonna say, okay, you know. Yeah. And after all Jesus endured, that's why someone else had to carry the cross. He probably didn't have the strength, you know. Right. Or, you know, the other other place he was whipped, and you got to put a rough piece of wood. You know, it was a rough piece of wood, it wasn't a nice sanded tabletop.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

Good point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

So more suffering.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

More suffering. They he has women and uh other people. It says a large number of people are following, um, they're crying, you know, they're upset, and and Jesus speaks to them and said, Don't don't weep for me, weep for yourselves. Because I mean, he knows he's gonna be okay. He yeah, he knows he's gonna rise from the dead, he knows he's going back to his father. So it's he, you know, he also knows that when he goes, the Holy Spirit's gonna come and be with them. So it's it's gonna be better for them and stuff, but um Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

But even this point, right? Because this is really the last conversation, I think, before he's on the cross, right? He's worrying about other people. He is other focused at this point in time, right? You know, after what he's endured in the previous day and a half, whatever, day, right? You know, not a long time, he's still worrying about other people, right? Don't weep for me now, weep for yourselves and for your children. Right? Because it's gonna get bad eventually. But he's still focusing on others.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

So yeah, and then they um they're crucified. So they're he's up there with the two criminals, one on each side. Um and this is when he says, Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing. So even then, yes, thinking of them praying for them really is is what that is. And then they divide up his clothes by casting lots. Again, some of this stuff is just like yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

And that could have been a standard activity. But still, it's and I think it was said in the Old Testament, they will, you know, some of this stuff was in the Old Testament. But they clearly, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:29

Yes, yes. Um, then the next day, April 17th, continuing this. Um people were watching, and then uh they were like, he saved others. Let him save himself if he's God's Messiah, the chosen one. I mean, they're they're still just mocking him. Um they offered him wine vinegar.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

Yeah, and they say save yourself three times. Three times, right? It was the ruler, save yourself, the soldiers save yourself, one of the criminals said save yourself and us, but save yourself.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Wow, I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Peter denied him three times. Simon Peter, we right. So the three, and we keep reading, there's another occasion where three times the same thing is said.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

So yeah, I I didn't notice that at all. Um then they write down uh on I guess a piece of wood and nail it to the top of the cross that says this is the king of the Jews. And I wondered um if this is mocking or not, because in another scripture it's actually the companion verse for this one. And if you don't know, uh on Flip Devotional Facebook page um has the companion verses for the month. And if you did flip devotional last year and you want to read something different, but still kind of stay in the theme with us, um, there are companion verses. So April 17th, companion verse is John 19, something 17 through 27. And it's it's the same part of the story, but in John it says that Pilate had the sign made. So I feel like Pilate did believe that he was the king of the Jews. He's he's the one who said, I don't see that he's done anything wrong.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

Right. Um or that's his way of aggravating the religious leaders who brought Jesus to him.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

But something, yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah, because this is just a sign, but yeah, uh other gospel, well, John, obviously, you know, and the religious leader said, please take that down.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Some gospel, I think it's that sign. You know.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

Yes, I remember that now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

And then, but you know, he said, nah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

So yeah, and Pilate put it up there so no one can just go take it down.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

Yeah, unless you want to be there yourself.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

So I just yeah, I I don't know what the sign's intention was. Whether it was mocking or it was, hey, this is the king of the Jews. Like, I'm I'm thinking it really is. So I'm putting the sign up there. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

I don't either, but I I would think most people think it's it's mocking, right? Um, but Jesus never called himself King of the Jews. No, you know, but I think it's either way, it's it's it's was intended to be harmful, either mocking or you know, Jesus or mocking the religious leaders, whoever it was, right? You know, and then at the end, one of the criminals, right, says, Jesus, remember me when you get to your kingdom. Right? So he must have heard, knew, right, something about it. And Jesus said, You'll be with me in paradise, right? I'm sure the other criminals said, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Well, the other criminal is the one who's like, save yourself.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

And us.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

And and insulting him and and stuff. Like, well, mm.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Yeah. Aren't you the Messiah? So, I mean, this was a thing people knew about, was paying attention to.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

So, and then April 18th is Mark 15, 33 through 40. And so Jesus has been crucified, he's up on the cross. Um, and it says at noon, darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon. So three hours of darkness.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

I mean, we've had solar eclipse.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

That's a long eclipse.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Where it gets dark. Now it's not it's not dark, dark. Um, because you can still see. Yeah. But it's definitely different and kind of eerie.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

Um, and an eclipse lasts minutes.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Minutes.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

So three hours of that w and and I don't know that it was a solar eclipse or or or what. Um, but anytime it gets kind of that eerie dark, yeah, I at least look out the window and this is this is weird looking.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

So, yeah, so for three hours, Jesus is on the cross, and he says, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Um our pastor preached on this recently.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

Um yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

And do you remember what you said about it? Um I think when he became human.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

All human.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

All human, right. Because again, he it's not my it's not father, father, why have you forsaken me? It's my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Right? So at that point, he is all human, right? He's right, he's fo he's suffering. He, he, you know, obviously he's God and man, all that, you know, what does that really mean? But I think at this point, he feels the separation. He feels the abandonment. Um and I think, I mean, it's an awful time, but I think there's times in our own life we feel maybe not forsaken, but separated from. Right?

SPEAKER_00 24:22

I think there, I mean, I think there are times, I don't think God ever forsakes us, but I think there are times when we feel like he's not there.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

And we're just like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

And it's probably our actions that makes us feel this separation.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I don't I don't know how long he felt that, but I mean, this is Jesus who is connected to God all the time and and and knows it. So I think any amount of time for him is like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Yeah. But he says this, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Some who are standing near heard this and they said, Listen, he's calling Elijah. Someone ran and filled a sponge with wine vinegar, put it on a staff, offered it to Jesus a drink, said, Now leave him alone. Let's see if Elijah comes. With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last breath. That's a really short period of time and fairly detailed events, which I think adds to, you know, helps you understand. This really is that point of feeling forsaken, he was very near death. It wasn't like noon, right? It was just that that one moment. Uh so it all, you know, one after the other.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Yeah. And then the the curtain of the temple was torn in two from from top to bottom, and and that's always been a part of the story that I remember people talking about, and that I just thought was kind of cool because apparently it was a really tall curtain.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

And for it to be one, to rip a curtain at all isn't easy. But if a person was gonna do it, you could have.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

And this was at the temple. This was built in the old testament. Moses got specific direction we got how to make the curtain. And it was it was a the holy place inside the right.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

Right, right. The holy of holies.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

The holy of holies. So this was, I mean, it wasn't just a curtain on a window, it was a door, essentially.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

Yeah. And if a person was gonna rip it, they would rip it from the bottom to the top because they can't reach the top. Right. Because it's it's way high up there. And it's easier to rip from bottom to top. But the fact that this was torn from the top to the bottom is just another sign that it was God.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

Yeah. And it's interesting, you never hear about the curtain.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Well, after you know, after it was torn. There's no discussion. Um it doesn't show up again in the Bible where there's this, you know, maybe there's some other story, maybe, you know, is there some origin that that the religious leaders made up some story about the curtain? But this is the last reference in in the by in the New Testament. Obviously, from this point forward, it's all about Jesus, which you don't hear a lot about the religious leaders, but you still, you know, it's clearly in the centurion who was standing there. Surely this man was the son of God. You know, and it's capital S son. Right?

SPEAKER_00 28:19

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 28:19

And it was not surely this man was a son of God, it was the son of God.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

And then we have the women who are watching from a distance. Mary Magdalene married the mother of James. Um and it says in Galilee, these women followed him and cared for his needs. Many other women who had come up with him to Jerusalem were also there. Kind of interesting. Shout out to the women showing up.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

Where were those men?

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Um I mean, they all ran, right? And two, I I mean, if if I want to rationalize, were they also known as followers of Jesus? Where the women were followed him, uh, but the disciples were clearly identified as so were they afraid at that point to go.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

Women had no power.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Right.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Women had no yeah, uh something.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

So do even these women were watching from a distance. I mean, so it was probably a crowd, it was probably an event people went to, kind of weird, but still, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Yeah, well, there's no TV.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

No TV. Cable was down.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

So Okay, so April 19th is the burial of Jesus, John 19, 38 through 42. Um, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body. Um, says Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

Because he feared the Jewish leaders. And with Pilate's permission, so you know, again, goes back to Pilate, kind of being, I just feel like Pilate has a soft spot for Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

And other gospels remember Pilate washed his hands of it, right? I was gonna say this kind of interesting. Um, Rolling Stones, they have a song, Sympathy for the Devil. And one of the lyric is um Pilate washed his hands and sealed his fate. You know, so it gets a reference. Pilate. Yeah. So, but it yeah, it's it's uh and obviously Pilate didn't have to do that, and I suspect there was no eagerness to get bodies off a cross.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

I mean, the Romans didn't care, right?

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Yeah, I I assume, I assume not.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Um, and it says he was accompanied by Nicodemus. Now I don't think we've talked about Nicodemus yet. I I know he comes up sometime and flip devotional. Um but Nicodemus was the man who went to Jesus at night. Yeah, just like Joseph. He was he he was believed Jesus, but was worried about the Jewish leaders. Yes, um, because he he was one.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

Yeah, he was, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

And um Nicodemus went to him at night. It was like kind of like, who are you? Are you the Messiah? Are you and and and teach me? And yeah, but snuck in there when no one would see him.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

Yeah, so he was a a Pharisee, right? And I looked it up, he was the story of you must be born again. Yes, that was Nicodemus. Yes, how does that happen? And Joseph Arimathea, he was a member of the Sanhedrin, who Jesus went before. I mean, so you know, these are two folks who took a risk, they had something to lose, really, right?

SPEAKER_00 32:31

But I think they feel like at this point we we have to like this guy was for real.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

And we believe him, and now we're gonna like step out.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Yeah. And Nicodemus brought myrrh, which remember the wise men brought myrrh.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

Frankincense.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

Frankincense, myrrh, I guess gold, frankincense. And gold, yes, and aloe, but 75 pounds.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

Yes. Yes, how do you even carry that much?

SPEAKER_01 33:07

It's a lot. And strips of linen.

SPEAKER_00 33:09

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

I mean, he he knew what to do and was prepared, right?

SPEAKER_00 33:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

This is done in accordance with the Jewish burial customs. Yeah, so they put him in a tomb.

SPEAKER_00 33:32

Yes. Yeah. And then April twentieth, the last day for this week. Um Matthew twenty seven, sixty two through sixty-six. So um I I like this. Um so they had heard rumors that they Jesus had said, the people had said that he's gonna rise from the dead in three days.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

And that deceiver. That's what the Pharisees called Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

And so, yeah. Um they of course don't believe that that's gonna happen. Right. At all.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

No. No. But just in case, just in case, we should probably his disciples may come and steal the body.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

Just to prove, yeah. Yeah. So they're like, okay, we'll guard the tomb. Make it as secure as you can.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

And that way they won't be able to steal the body.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

They put the seal on the stone and they post a guard.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

And like, huh.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

Yeah. And the seal is probably just wax. You know, but it it creates, it doesn't make it more secure, but it shows if it's been moved or tamp tampered with.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

But again, the Pharisees are just making sure this doesn't come back, you know, none of this is true. Uh, you know, and it's interesting, uh, based on the reading, you know, the last deception will be worse than the first. But who was really the deceivers? It was the Pharisees. They were making up stuff as they went, right? I mean, yeah, at one point, you know, they had witnesses and they even paid witnesses to make something up, and their stories were so flawed. So, but yeah. So sometimes you are who you of what you are guilty of what you accuse others of being.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

So we end this week with Jesus in the tomb.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

In the tomb, secure.

SPEAKER_00 36:13

And guards, guarded, wondering what's gonna happen. But we'll have to wait till next week to find out.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

Gotta wait.

SPEAKER_00 36:23

All right. Well, thank you for listening to this week's Flip Devotional, the podcast. Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, follow, download, share, um, whatever it is you can do with our podcast so that more people hear it. Thank you for listening, and we'll see you next week.