How This Allergist Built a Multi-7 Figure Private Practice and Powerhouse Team in Under 5 Years with Dr. Karen Kaufman

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Have you ever wondered what’s truly possible when a physician decides to stop shrinking, own their expertise, and build a practice that reflects their full potential?

In today’s episode, you’ll meet Dr. Karen Kaufman, an Allergist & Immunologist who built a multi–7 figure private practice in under 5 years—during a time when people said private practice was dead.

From serving as an Active Duty Navy physician to becoming the CEO of a fast-growing allergy/immunology practice in Northern Virginia, Dr. Kaufman’s story is a masterclass in vision, leadership, and strategic growth.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:00

Welcome to the Profitable Private Practice Podcast, the show that proves that private practice isn't dead. It's just getting started. I'm Teka Anatu, and every week I sit down with thriving private practice doctors who are rewriting the rules and redefining what success looks like in healthcare. From smart business modes to mindset gifts and everything in between, we're here to show you how to build a practice that is not only profitable, but purpose-driven. If you're ready to thrive like these doctors, join the movement at oncambi.com forward slash thrive. Now let's dive in. Hello, hello, everybody, and welcome to the profitable private practice where I interview doctors that are thriving, where the you know common narrative is that private practice is dead, which it's not. And so today we are here with Dr. Karen Kaufman, and we're going to go ahead and interview her today. Hi, Dr. Karen.

SPEAKER_01: 0:52

Hi, Cheddar. Thank you so much for the opportunity to talk with you today. I'm super excited to get through all of your questions and to tell you a little bit about my practice.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01

Yes, me too. So why don't you go ahead and give us a 60-second introduction of yourself?

SPEAKER_01: 1:06

Okay, um, terrific. So hello everyone. My name is Karen Kaufman, and I am an allergist immunologist in private practice, and I help children and adults with allergies, asthma, and recurrent infections to feel better on less medicine and improve their quality of life. My practice, Kaufman Allergy, Asthma and Immunology, was opened almost five years ago, so January of 2021, and we are located in Vienna, Virginia. And since we opened, we have had a lot of growth, and now our group includes not only myself but some other physicians, nurse practitioner, and we employ about 15 people in the practice. And it is not only the best place, in my opinion, uh, for our patients to receive care, but it's also the best place for people to work. And we have a wonderful company culture, and I think that's just a few of the things that makes our practice just really, really special.

SPEAKER_00: 2:09

That's good, that's good. And so I was doing a little bit of digging before interview, and I found out that you were in the Navy. How cool is that? I think my mother wanted to go to the Navy at some point, but it was only for the uniform. It wasn't do anything over there. And so, what was, you know, the most exciting thing about being in the Navy?

SPEAKER_01: 2:32

You know, I spent 10 years in the Navy, and that included my time in my internship and residency, which I did in internal medicine. And after I finished training, I worked as an internist, and I was on the teaching faculty in a family medicine residency program in Pensacola, Florida. And then I went on to do my fellowship, um, which was out of service, but I was still on active duty at the time, and then finished my last three years practicing allergy and clinical immunology in another teaching institution where we had internal medicine and pediatrics residents that we were training, you know, as we were seeing patients at that time. Um, you know, I really um loved my time in the military, and one of the reasons that I decided to um to um to join in the first place was because I was trying to find out how to get school paid for. So um I had a three-year scholarship, uh, which was called a Health Profession Scholarship Program, and that really allowed me the opportunity to um, you know, to get through med school with really minimal student loans and to, you know, to begin to serve at that time. And when I joined the military, when I decided to um get commissioned, um, was actually right after 9-11. So I think at that time too, it was a real um a time where you know I think patriotism was really at an all-time high, I think, in our generation, um, where people just felt that that feeling of wanting to do something um greater um for our country, and and that was something that I felt very deeply at the time. So um, so that was really like my my kind of like the timing of my startup. Um, but one of the things that I think was most unique about my time in the military was my time deployed in 2009 on the USNS Comfort, which is one of the Navy's two hospital ships, um, as part of the continuing promise mission. So I was able to, you know, go around to all sorts of places in the Caribbean and Central America and South America to provide humanitarian medical support, um, along with, you know, extending sort of that that political handshake of goodwill and meeting people from all over the world. So that was just a really enriching experience for me. Um and then in addition to that, I loved my time in medical education. You know, I think I love to be a teacher. And now in private practice, I think I kind of um take that same approach when I see patients, and and the way I deliver patient care involves a lot of teaching as well, because I just think that that um enriches the experience in medicine.

SPEAKER_00: 5:26

Yes, that is really that's really amazing. Um I don't think I've ever met, I have met like veterans before, but not from the Navy side. It's always like air elsewhere. So that's really cool that you're able to do that and then also apply that to, you know, where your practice is. And then so let's dive in, you know, a little bit deeper. So could you walk me through the moment you first entertained the thought of becoming an entrepreneur?

SPEAKER_01: 5:51

Yeah, you know, the first time it ever even occurred to me was actually when I was a fellow. Um, so you know, my fellowship again was during my active duty service time, and I knew I still had um three more years of kind of obligated service time to um continue after completion of fellowship. Um, but it was when I was a fellow that it even occurred to me that, you know, that allergist immunologists might be in a private practice where, you know, where it was a solo physician-owned practice that didn't it it truly wasn't on my radar. I think I I've said this before, but you know, in my mind I think about there's this old movie long before your time called Doc Hollywood with Michael J. Fox, where he was this this doctor who moved to the country and he just became this like country doctor that went to people's houses and like you know, he bartered his services for a pig and all this stuff, and like that was really in my mind of that's what that looks like. Like people, you know, people nowadays don't do that, or people who live maybe in more of a suburban or even an urban setting, like they wouldn't do that. And um, when I was a junior fellow, the um the senior fellow who um was a year ahead of me, um, her plan was to finish fellowship and open her own practice, and and that was really very eye-opening to me. So as she was starting to make plans for her practice, um, she and I did a lot of kind of groupthink and brainstorming and what could that look like and how would how would somebody be able to do that? And and I think that was really the groundwork that for me I thought, well, you know, when I get out of the military, this is what I want to do too. And when the time came for me to, you know, it's approaching like my last maybe year and a half, two years in the military, and I started to think I need to make my plans for, you know, what's next. Um, I kind of thought about it and looked around in some, you know, towns that I thought, you know, maybe weren't adequately served with allergy immunology services and thought, you know, could I move here? Could I open a practice here? And it really felt very overwhelming. I think that's what a lot of people feel before they kind of take that leap of entrepreneurship as a physician. Um, and and there is, there's a lot of fear, there's a lot of unease. Um, and and for me, I think at that time it just wasn't necessarily the right thing yet. Um, coming out of the military, I really wanted to kind of dive into civilian practice and figure out like how to even how to even do that stuff, like right, even just things like coding and billing, which um, you know, of course we still have to code in the military, but we're not we're not billing, we're not looking for reimbursement because it's just part of this military system. So I think that there was a very steep learning curve. So I ended up taking a job um working in a multi-specialty group, um, where I really, for a majority of the time I was there, was the only allergist immunologist. And um, and and as I spent five and a half years in that practice, I really was able to pick apart, you know, what do I like about the practice of medicine? How do I think the practice of medicine is best, you know, performed? What's the best way to deliver care? What things did I not like about the practice that I was in? Um, what were things that were common complaints that patients delivered, and how could you improve upon that experience? And as I really started to kind of, you know, catalog those those thoughts um at that time I decided, which it was actually um, it was right at the beginning of 2020, was when I had this kind of thought process was, you know, I think I think it's time for me to step out on my own and practice medicine on my own terms and to deliver the care that that our patients deserved. So um, so that was kind of the the beginning of it. So I had thought about it um as a fellow, and then I kind of came back to that again later.

SPEAKER_00: 9:47

That's really good. So then between that time of you know you thinking about it and having that thought, and then you know, you actually um creating your practice or where you are now, what are some things that needed to happen, some mindset shifts that you needed to make?

SPEAKER_01: 10:03

Um, there is a very, very steep learning curve. In fact, I just was talking with someone this morning and she had said to me, you know, I've thought about you know opening my practice, but how would I even learn this? And and I said, Well, you know, I've had those same thoughts too, and there's so many things to learn. There are so many things that you just need to really kind of be very open-minded to the fact that there's a lot that we don't know. And, you know, physicians are great learners, physicians enjoy learning, and I'm someone who enjoys learning. So, you know, in the time from when I decided, you know, I'm gonna start my own practice to the time that I actually started the practice, probably was almost a year, a little less than a year in total. And so it allowed me time to kind of get my thoughts organized of what are all the things that I need to figure out. And then just bit by bit, I started. Um, probably the first thing I did was really tapping into resources that I could find. Like every single um, you know, allergist, immunologist who had their own practice that I knew, I called and I set up time and and took notebooks of notes, um, of you know, trying to just get questions answered and pick their brains and figure out, like, you know, knowing what they now know, you know, what did they wish they knew or did differently at the beginning, things like that, you know, questions to really try to help build the process. And at the time that I was getting started as well, I think I also tapped into some resources through social media. Um, there are um Facebook groups for physicians, many, many Facebook groups for physicians, and there's one for physicians in private practice that I had found, um, not specific to allergy and immunology, but really of all practices. And um, and there's so much, you know, volumes and volumes of information to sort through. I really just utilized, you know, every question I had on my list. I went through the search bar and printed out, you know, people's comments about things that I was trying to figure out. And so utilizing that kind of advice, or you know, I was trying to pick apart, even though they weren't necessarily advising me, but I was taking that as advice. Um, and then I kind of began to get organized and to start to, you know, prioritize what needs to be done first and then what and then what and then what. And so by the time I left my job, my my employed practice, um, you know, I was I was pretty close to being all all the way set up to open, um, which I opened a couple of months later. So yeah, it's a lot.

SPEAKER_00: 12:37

That's amazing. Yeah, definitely, so definitely a learning curve. And I think between that time and then now you've definitely learned a lot of stuff. Like just hearing you going through the forums and you know, um asking questions or taking answers from other people, even though they weren't directly advising you.

SPEAKER_01: 12:53

Sure, that's really cool. In addition to that, you know, that's really like the nuts and bolts of practice, but the business of medicine um is a whole another layer, you know. And and I also knew I know nothing about that, right? And so to be an entrepreneur, to be um in the business of medicine, to employ people, right? And like I'm I'm responsible for their livelihood, you know, to really make sure I was 100% committed to doing the best that I could to make it work for them. Um, that was another place that I tapped into learning. And when I found Dr. Una, you know, she had been in her practice already for 10 years at that time. And I said, well, you know, there's no reason to learn this, you know, through the school of hard knocks. Like I'm gonna just find people that know right the things that I need to learn and tap into that a hundred percent and just say, look, tell me what works, tell me what to do. I'm a great learner, I'm a good student, you know, I will I will be doing all of the things. And and I think that that just, you know, that just paid off in dividends.

SPEAKER_00: 13:58

Yeah, that's amazing. And my mom kind of she does that a lot, not does like she does it a lot that like you know, when you're trying to learn something new, that you find someone who's already done it, who's an expert in that area, and they just go right underneath them and like, okay, tell me what I need to do so that I can get this done. But that's really amazing. And then so I know that you've scaled your practice to multiple seven figure, um, to multiple seven figures in less than five years. And this is a time where um private where everyone believes that private practice is dead. So how are you able to scale your business like that in these times?

SPEAKER_01: 14:34

Gosh, that's such a good question. You know, um my practice um falls under the insurance model. And especially I think right now we're at a time um of a lot of um frustration, a lot of um problems with declining reimbursements and you know, constantly submitting records and trying to, you know, get paid for the work that we do. And and I think in general, right now, you know, physicians in insurance-based practices are really feeling that struggle. Um, but I think you have to be very creative with how you um structure the practice. And so, you know, part of um you know, part of that is you know, knowing your numbers inside and out, and really knowing, like, you know, with all of the overhead that you have, what do you do need to do to be profitable? And so, you know, in an insurance-based practice, as time marched on, um, we had so much volume of patients through consistent um marketing and speaking and um visibility in the community that you know we've had this just this massive influx of patients who just you know who want to be a part of the practice. They want to receive the best, the best care that you know they can get. And of course, that's what we deliver. And so as that volume went up and I learned, you know, that it was truly more than what I could handle by myself, um, the idea of building team and allowing to really optimize that patient growth by adding additional providers to the team really, really made a difference because not only were we then getting patients in sooner, we were getting them taken care of faster, we were getting their needs met in a more timely manner that worked for them, but then we were able to fill multiple schedules. And so, you know, as we were providing more care, that you know, that adds to the you know revenue collected for the practice and and ultimately allows us to you know put more into the way that we deliver care because the practice is profitable. And so by the time I was in maybe year three, um, in my practice, we'd already outgrown my clinic space, which you know, when I um signed my lease before I opened my practice, which I signed a 10-year lease, by the way, I thought, well, you know, I don't know when I'll grow into this space. You know, I had five exam rooms. I thought, who needs that many if you're just one person? Um, but within three years, you know, we were um, you know, tossing elbows to see who can get who can get patients in the rooms and the waiting room was always full and it overflowed into the hallway, which drove me crazy. I thought, oh my gosh, I can't believe I've a practice where people are in the hall. And um, and I thought we, you know, we need to do something else. We need to, we need to allow for more physical growth so that way the growth of our practice um inside um had space to grow and to breathe. So um, you know, we moved into a new office almost a year ago now, which is more than double the space of my original location, which now I have a wonderful startup internal medicine practice subleasing for me, which I'm so grateful for, and they're absolutely wonderful. Um but now that I have all of this space, right, now I have to look at each square foot of the office as you know, as a profit center of saying, how do we utilize this space in the most optimal way to continue to deliver care, but to make sure we're doing it in a profitable way, right? What's the point of having all this space? I'm paying all this more money per square foot for rent, and you know, all of the, you know, all of the things cost more, like the utilities and the um internet service and the cleaning of the office. I mean, everything is more because it's bigger. So then profit needs to um to go up, and revenue certainly needs to go up to cover the overhead. And um, so then you kind of need to start getting, you know, more and more creative and looking for opportunities to uh to do things differently, um to think differently, to add services that maybe we weren't doing before to enhance the care that we provide and and truly make my practice, you know, the center of excellence of allergy and clinical immunology in Northern Virginia that I truly believe that it is.

SPEAKER_00: 19:00

Yeah, that's amazing. That's really good. And I know you mentioned EBS a little bit earlier, Dr. Una specifically. And you've been there for how many years? Five?

SPEAKER_01: 19:11

Yep. So I started I started in EBS in September of 2020, and um it has just been um you know pivotal in my business education, and I truly attribute the you know the growth and success of my practice to the things that I've learned through EBS. And you know, doctors, doctors don't learn this stuff, right? You know, unless you are, you know, have a dual degree with an MBA, you know, medical school does not provide us training in this. Um, many people are just not in any way business savvy, they don't need they don't know how to read a profit and loss statement, they don't know how to look at a balance sheet and you know, things like that. Like we don't know this stuff. And so to me, unless I was going to really learn it. I wasn't going to be able to really do it. You know? And so EBS has just been the most, you know, pivotal opportunity for learning, but also for community and surrounding myself with other people who are doing this, whether it's in private practice, whether it's an insurance-based practice like mine, or doing something totally different. There is so much learning and education to get just from being in the presence of people who are doing the work. So it's just been, I can't say more great things about my time in EBS.

SPEAKER_00: 20:35

So could you expand a little bit on that? Because I know people like to say, well, who have been inside of the business school, they say that EBS is an alternate, is like an alternate reality, right? So could you help someone like understand what it's like to be inside of EBS?

SPEAKER_01: 20:50

Yeah, EBS is um is this, it's it is like an alternate reality. I've I haven't heard that, but it really is a good um a good truth in that um there's a few different aspects of what we do in EBS. So the first I would say is um the coaching sessions, the weekly coaching sessions. Um, and so you know they're done in a group call setting. There is so much opportunity for um individual learning, individual coaching, but also learning from other people's experiences, um doing breakouts into small groups, um, really, really being presented with um ideas of how to become visible, how to become a household name in your community, all of the things that are truly like so essential in in building um, you know, building something really, really special. So, you know, just the time and coaching, I think, of the weekly calls is um fantastic. Beyond that, we have a private Facebook group, and um in the Facebook group there's a lot of engagement, there's a lot of um people who may ask for ideas or ask for feedback or who share their wins and who share their experiences, and you know, and I think engaging in that setting has been um really just helpful to kind of be in that same space with people who are just doing really outstanding things. Um, and then the last piece of of EBS that I think might be even one of my favorites is the opportunity to um get together in person, uh which we do twice a year through the vision retreat in October and the Business Makeover Mastermind in the springtime. And I think even just the experience of you know starting to do vision planning in the fall for the next calendar year. I mean, that in itself is like such a you know a brilliant concept that had not really been on my radar. I was not somebody who made vision boards. I thought that was kind of like a like a foo foo thing that was, you know, creative. Like you could get on Canva and like have an arts and crafts session of let's make a vision board, but I didn't see the practicality of it until I really started um digging into how do we create vision and how do we take that vision into you know the movement that we need to start acting upon our goals and then the momentum going forward that you know, usually I would say by springtime I'm kind of like, okay, like what's next? I did the things, you know, and then it just pushes you to to act and to do because you know, otherwise time just takes on. And if I keep the mentality of a physician working in my practice and don't really step back and take the time to work on my practice, that growth doesn't happen. Tomorrow is the same as today, which is the same as yesterday, you know, and that growth, that mindset growth doesn't happen. So I think those, you know, those different aspects of EBS really draw those things out of you and it allows you to um to take advantage of the time that we have. You know, time is a gift, right? It is not guaranteed. And so, you know, really making every moment count, not only providing, you know, I'm also a practice, a physician in the practice, right? So not only providing that excellent care, but being able to provide the excellent care as well to the practice. So the practice continues to grow and evolve. I think that's that's one of my favorite parts of being in that EBS community is learning those things.

SPEAKER_00: 24:32

Yeah, that's amazing. And then so I just want to reach out to you know everybody who's watching, who's listening to the podcast, and I want to invite you to book a call because what we know is that EBS is an alternate reality. Now, there's more than just EBS, there's also um BPPM, so it's a profitable private practice movement. And so Dr. Una has something for everybody, okay, whether it's the business school, whether it's PPPM, whether it's the books or the podcast. So I want to invite you to book a call and you will be, you know, connected to one of the members of the team, and we can figure out what is best for you, you know, moving forward. So you can go to ontremd.com forward slash success to book a call today. That's ongremd.com forward slash success. And so Dr. Cuffman, how has owning a private practice affected your life, your personal life?

SPEAKER_01: 25:25

You know, when I was employed, the office where I worked was um at a little bit of a distance from where I lived, especially it was probably you know 30 minutes away. I had to get on the DC Beltway, which notoriously is, you know, terrible traffic. And I really did not um experience flexibility in scheduling. I remember there were times where you know the school would call and say, you know, your kid is sick, you need to come pick them up. And I was like, I can be there in two and a half hours. You know, like I just couldn't, I didn't have that ability to just be there or to be present. Um when I opened my own practice, of course, the you know, the biggest dream is to open a practice in the community where you live and serve your community locally. So now my practice is you know less than a 10-minute drive from my home. Um I have the ability to design the schedule that works for me. Um I can take my children to school in the morning, I can get to their 3:30 soccer games, you know, like I can I can do the things that are important to them, to my family, to be present, um, to show them that they are my most important priority. And to have that flexibility is um is amazing. I still see clinic, you know, I still see clinic five days a week. I have non-clinical time where I do my business activities. Um, and when I have personal commitments, um, everything else just works around that and I make that work, um, which is which is so wonderful. Um, beyond that, I think, you know, in addition to um being a you know a servant of my community, I am um extremely grateful to be able to provide a livelihood for my amazing team who work with me. Um, you know, and I, you know, we even have um members of our team who are not directly in our office who are our extended team who work from home at nighttime overseas while we're working during the day. And um, you know, and some of my team members in that regard have been able to use the money that they earn from working for my practice to put siblings through school. I mean, it's truly amazing, and just the gift of being able to provide um has been extremely, extremely rewarding. Um, but then of course, beyond that, I think with my own children, you know, I think being a role model to them and showing them, you know, you don't have to fit into a little, you know, box and say, well, this is the job that I'm going to have when I grow up and that's what that looks like. You know, the fact that I can show them, you know, you can truly do whatever you want, right? If you have a goal, if you have a dream, if you can find a need that that needs to be met and come up with a solution, you know, you can do that. And and I think it's um really just wonderful to show them that that's what I do. Um, so I think I think those are just some of the the ways that being a private practice owner has enriched my life privately.

SPEAKER_00: 28:41

It's amazing. It's awesome. And then so if you could teach a private practice owner, you know, who's struggling, if you could teach them one thing, what would it be?

SPEAKER_01: 28:51

Oh gosh, there are so many things, Cheddar. Um, I I think the one thing that I would probably teach, um, well, I I might cheat and give two things. I would say the first one, the first one is you have to market yourself. You have to market yourself. I think, you know, gone are the days of hanging a shingle and crossing your fingers and hoping that patients will show up. They will not. They will find somebody else who is being loud and and and showing themselves to the community. So you do have to engage in marketing. It is an essential part of the practice. There are so many ways to do that, and it most of them don't um include spending a lot of money on marketing, like it's truly not necessary to do that, but to learn to market yourself in your practice is essential. So that's that's I think the first most important thing. Um, beyond that, I would say um the importance of developing team. And the reason I say that is that when I started my practice as a solo um physician, as a solo practice owner, we had a very small practice. It was myself and a few medical assistants, and I know and I talk to physicians a lot who think I'm gonna have this micropro micro practice and it's gonna be me and I'm gonna do all the things, and that is like such a cool feeling at the beginning. Um, but this problem is when the entire practice revolves around you, um, then you are tied to every aspect of what your practice does. And so it really almost becomes um to some um to some degree a limitation. Um, and so learning how to grow and develop team has been the best gift because um there are things that you know that I used to do that I don't need to do them. I'm not the best person to do them, and they can be delegated to someone else so that way I can get in my zone of genius, I can do the things that that enrich my life and allow me to, you know, give my best to my practice. Um, but in growing team, um, we are serving our community better. Um, but it also gives me that that opportunity and time freedom to be able to, you know, to practice medicine on my terms.

SPEAKER_00: 31:03

That's good. And so I have a follow-up question for that because you just mentioned team and it just like whatever light bulb was over there, just ding the moment you said that um if you're you know in every single part of your practice, then it's kind of a limitation. So, how have you been able to overcome that? Like wanting to have yourself like in every single part because you know at the beginning, that's how it can be like I feel important because I need to be here and then here and then here, but then like you said, it can become a limitation. So, how are you able to overcome that?

SPEAKER_01: 31:33

I think the biggest way is to surround yourself by people who see your vision. And when I build team, um, I'm really very intentional about curating the correct um combination of personalities, the right people to be a part of um my practice because these are people who can understand my vision, who see my vision, who are coachable, who are teachable, and who then themselves become an extension of me, right? So the biggest and scariest thing about delegation is the loss of control, right? Of course, I think those of us who are entrepreneurs, we like to have our hands in all the things, right? But when you when you curate that team, that is kind of the best way to extend your ability to deliver the services that you are good at by downloading them into somebody else, by giving them that opportunity, and and they can be the experts of of those things. And so I think just knowing that um, you know, the practice is more than me. Um, I am not synonymous with the practice, right? The practice is the practice, and I'm me, you know, and so um, you know, I think just having that mindset that separates yourself, and then almost it's almost like thinking like a little like like a director of a show, right? Like if the director of the show did all of the things, the show wouldn't be directed because their director would be too busy doing all the things. And so that's kind of how I feel about it, but it's really that choice of who are the people who are going to be able to deliver the the services that I need or the messages that I need or the things that make us such an amazing place to receive cure and to work, you know, is um is the most important part. So I think just really um, you know, not just choosing someone because they showed up, choosing somebody because they're the right person that really makes a difference.

SPEAKER_00: 33:42

That's good, that's amazing. Thank you so much for you know answering my on a whim question. That's okay. And then so another thing is where can people find you? They want to get in contact with you, maybe they live around the area that you live in and you want to get to know more about you. How can they do that?

SPEAKER_01: 33:57

So, my practice is located in Vienna, Virginia. We're in the Tysons region, which is um just outside of the DC Beltway. So we're in the Washington, D.C. metro area, and we truly serve patients from all over the place. People truly come to us from from far and wide. Um, so in our office, um, we we are happy to serve. Our patients can find us through our practice website, which is KaufmanAlergy.com, and there is a link where patients can request a new new patient appointment, and that is truly the best way to um to initially reach out so that way our scheduling team can connect with our future patients and provide them the best uh and fastest response and service. Um, on on social media, the best place to find me is on Instagram, and my Instagram is dr.Kaufmanallergy. And um and I love connecting with other physicians and other um allied health professionals in the community. Um, I love connecting with people, and um that's just a wonderful uh place to kind of see what we're doing, and that we'd kind of like to hallmark um some of the amazing things about you know the practice and what I'm doing and all of that stuff. So um so that's where I can be found on social media. And um we are also looking to hire another full-time physician next year. So if you're watching this and you're an allergist immunologist and looking for the most amazing team to join or a wonderful job opportunity, um you can please reach out to me directly, and that can be by email at administrator at KaufmanAlergy.com.

SPEAKER_00: 35:45

Alrighty. And then so to everybody who is watching, I like to say this that do not allow this podcast to be your best kept secret. Please share this with a doctor that you know, a private practice physician that you know, that you believe that this podcast will truly benefit. And we have a lot of doctors who also believe that private practice is dead, which is not. The old playbook may be dead, but private practice itself is not dead. And this podcast is here to show everybody just that because we have people in private practice who are thriving and who have their dream business and their dream life at the same time. So if you know a private practice physician or any physician in general that you believe this podcast will benefit, please share this with them. And thank you so much, Dr. Karen, for allowing me to interview you. This has truly been amazing. And I do hope to have you on this podcast again, literally just to talk about team, because that one statement you made like really piqued my interest.

SPEAKER_01: 36:42

Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. And um I'll definitely come back.

SPEAKER_00: 36:49

Yes, thank you so much. And to everyone who's watching, we'll see you next time. Thank you for listening to the Profitable Private Practice Podcast. If this episode inspired you, share it with the Private Practice Doc in your life and subscribe so that you never miss an episode. Don't let this podcast be the best kept secret. I'm Techana Tico, and I'll see you next week.